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Credlin | 5 December · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kredland live on sky Ingins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Steve Price in for
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Speaker 2: Peter tonight and I'll be back of course with our
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Speaker 2: Friday show at the same time tomorrow. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up on Credline tonight. As Peter told you last night,
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Speaker 2: the Albanezy government has failed Australians on the most basic
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Speaker 2: cost of living measures. Nightmare numbers yesterday and proof that
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Speaker 2: without mass immigration and massive state and federal spending we
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Speaker 2: would be in recession. I'll talk to Daniel Wild and
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Speaker 2: James Ashby first up tonight, still on government spending. The
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Speaker 2: worst government in the nation, the Andrews Allen Labour government
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Speaker 2: in Victoria is today reported. You won't believe this, to
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Speaker 2: have spent two million dollars on outside advisors to tell
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Speaker 2: them how to raise extra revenue. Simply crazy stuff. Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton was in the Northern Beaches area of Sydney yesterday
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Speaker 2: talking about the teals and Renewable, hoping to put a
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Speaker 2: dent in the votes of people like Zalie Stegel. But
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Speaker 2: where is this energy debate now sitting and when will
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Speaker 2: we see costings from the opposition energy market analyst Saul
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Speaker 2: Kavonic he'll join us on the program as well, and
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Speaker 2: on the teals and whether the Coalition can unseat some
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Speaker 2: of them. We chat with Liberal insider David Gazzard on
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Speaker 2: whether they are targeting the right seats or ought they
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Speaker 2: be concentrating more on the outer urban electorates of Australia
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Speaker 2: that are doing it hard. But first up, and a
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Speaker 2: couple of things are becoming clearer by the day. The
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Speaker 2: next election campaign I believe has started already. Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: was in Port Stevens today and congratulations to him. Is
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Speaker 2: canceling if he is elected and wins the election. An
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Speaker 2: offshore wind farm that has vocal critics in the local community,
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Speaker 2: including a blokey like this fisherman who spoke to Kenny
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Speaker 2: Heatley today.
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Speaker 3: Eighty percent of the flat ed quota will be gone,
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Speaker 3: not to mention the lobsters and the awn industry that
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Speaker 3: will be decimated.
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Speaker 2: Okay, why will eighty percent be lost.
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Speaker 3: Because this area, this wind farm area where it's being
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Speaker 3: zoned is right over where the guys fish.
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Speaker 2: Now, imagine what the locals think of that. Why is
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Speaker 2: this so pivotal? As we head to the polls. Well,
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Speaker 2: the coalition, especially the Nationals half of the coalition have
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Speaker 2: picked up the sour mood of regional Australia where all
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Speaker 2: of the government's renewable projects are going to be located.
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Speaker 2: Peter's talked about this over and over again, and so
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Speaker 2: I wind farms, offshore towers, massive carpet bombing, solar farm developments,
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Speaker 2: taking up agricultural land. And let's not forget the transmission
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Speaker 2: towers and power lines that will have to be hung
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Speaker 2: through farms across native forest national parks to connect all
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Speaker 2: this stuff up. Labour has no road back now and
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Speaker 2: are going to have to use their labor mates to
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Speaker 2: force planning changes on regional and rural communities to make
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Speaker 2: this stuff happen now. As I said, Peter Dutton fired
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Speaker 2: another shot of this today with that offshore wind announcement
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Speaker 2: he made.
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Speaker 4: If there is a change of government at the next election,
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Speaker 4: then we can give it assurance to this local community
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Speaker 4: that this project will not proceed, the zone will not
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Speaker 4: proceed and we will make sure that the environment and
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Speaker 4: the local community comes first.
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Speaker 2: Well, that are winning votes. Anyone who's seen these wind
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Speaker 2: and solar sites will know how they change the landscape,
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Speaker 2: and anyone who's seen the already constructed solar farms in
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Speaker 2: places like northeast Victoria, well you know how dreadful they look.
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Speaker 2: Bald and Alberizi are city boys from Sydney, and the
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Speaker 2: nearest wind turbine to their electrics will be, I guess,
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Speaker 2: hundreds of kilometers away. Although you wonder what the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister Anthony Alberizi would say if someone decided to erect
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Speaker 2: a wind turbine farm off from his new beach house
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Speaker 2: at Copa Kabana on the Central Coast, I can tell
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Speaker 2: you he would not be happy, but he can do
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Speaker 2: it to other people. Jim, of course, tried again today
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Speaker 2: to construct the narrative that Peter Dutton is doctor.
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Speaker 5: Know.
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Speaker 2: So here we are yet another election fought over climate policy.
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Speaker 2: Now you don't have to remember and go back too
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Speaker 2: far to remember Julia Gillard's no carbon tax under a
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Speaker 2: government lead. We saw how that worked out. Dutton no
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Speaker 2: needs to be careful here, I think. On the one hand,
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Speaker 2: he was yesterday in Sydney in the seats of Ringer
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Speaker 2: and mckella held by two tills, Zali Stegel and Sophie Scamps.
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Speaker 2: Those once saved seats with members like Tony Abbott going
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Speaker 2: all the way back to Bromwin Bishop. Those seats fell
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Speaker 2: on climate change at the last election, and Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 2: in my view, would be better off concentrating on marginal
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Speaker 2: labour seats in western Sydney and out of Melbourne. These places,
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Speaker 2: not Manly and Wale Beach, are where the government's failure
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Speaker 2: to deliver cost of living relief is where the true
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Speaker 2: impact of how tough life he is after two and
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Speaker 2: a half years of labor, food, petrol, energy, I don't
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Speaker 2: need to tell you, insurance, mortgages, medical care, the whole lot.
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Speaker 2: The northern beaches might be struggling a little, but nothing
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Speaker 2: like the outer suburban rings of our capital cities. Those
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Speaker 2: people are also the same ones last week that were
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Speaker 2: being told to turn off their dishwashers and turn down
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Speaker 2: the air conditioner on a day when it wasn't really
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Speaker 2: very hot in the scheme of things, If Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: really wants to unseat Teals, as it seems he does,
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Speaker 2: then Melbourne's a place. Monique Ryan has been hopeless in
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Speaker 2: Couyong and can be beaten, and Zoe Daniels in Goldstein
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Speaker 2: might not be safe either. Look as Donald Trump clearly showed,
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Speaker 2: and I know we're not the US, but Trump won
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Speaker 2: because middle working America was sick and tired of being
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Speaker 2: lectured to by elite Washington politicians who had no clue
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Speaker 2: about how hard life had become for them. Nothing needs
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Speaker 2: to keep asking the question do you feel better off
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Speaker 2: than you were two and a half years ago? Just
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Speaker 2: say it over and over and over again. I mean,
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Speaker 2: obviously the answer for all of us is no. The
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Speaker 2: other thing the Coalition needs to do quickly, in my view,
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Speaker 2: is explained that their nuclear ambitions will run in tandem
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Speaker 2: with all of the energy set's. Australia has Kyle gas
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Speaker 2: hydro and we're sensible solar and wind. This fight will
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Speaker 2: be close, but I can tell you in breaking news
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Speaker 2: in a poll has just been released in the news
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Speaker 2: limited newspapers dropped in the last hour, done by Accent
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Speaker 2: Research and the Redbridge Group. The Coalition, according to that
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Speaker 2: pole of five thousand people could actually be in chance
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Speaker 2: of forming government in their own right, not a minority.
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Speaker 2: And based on this pole, which does a seat by
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Speaker 2: seat breakdown, Anthony Albanesi has no chance of forming a
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Speaker 2: majority government, which of course is the worst case for
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Speaker 2: all of us. I still have nightmares around people like
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Speaker 2: Rob Oakshot and Tony windsor don't let us play that
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Speaker 2: game ever again. Let's head to camera now for tonight's
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Speaker 2: political headlines with Sky News political reporter cam Redden good evening.
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Speaker 6: The Coalition has vowed to tear up the contracts of
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Speaker 6: offshore wind projects if it wins the next election. Leader
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Speaker 6: Peter Dutton making the promise on a visit to the
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Speaker 6: New South Wales Hunter region.
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Speaker 4: We will make sure that the environment and the local
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Speaker 4: community comes first.
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Speaker 7: The announcement that he's made today would put thousands of
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Speaker 7: jobs at risk.
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Speaker 6: Waters off Port Stevens are one of six proposed areas
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Speaker 6: for offshore wind earmarked by the Energy Minister. Locals tell
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Speaker 6: sky News their concerns have been ignored.
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Speaker 7: People got fishing up there and got his huge wind
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Speaker 7: farms made terrible noises.
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Speaker 3: Eighty percent of the flat ed quota will be gone,
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Speaker 3: not to mention the lobsters in the prawn industry that
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Speaker 3: will be decimated.
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Speaker 6: With a media economic update around the corner, Treasurer Jim
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Speaker 6: Chalmers has ruled out a Christmas time cash splash.
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Speaker 7: People shouldn't expect the med year update to be some
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Speaker 7: kind of mini budget with a lot of new initiatives.
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Speaker 6: Sluggish economic growth of below one percent over twelve months
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Speaker 6: has the Coalition making comparisons with the past.
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Speaker 4: This period is akin to the Witler Mirror, where the
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Speaker 4: Labor Party near destroyed the economy.
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Speaker 6: But the Treasurer says it's not time to change course.
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Speaker 7: And if Peter Dutton and Angus Taylor had the keys
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Speaker 7: to the economy over the last little while we've been
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Speaker 7: in recession.
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Speaker 6: Finance Minister Katie Gallaher has conceded she may be in
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Speaker 6: a fight to keep her place in the Senate due
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Speaker 6: to the prominence of Independent David Pocock.
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Speaker 8: Personally, I think David Pocock will be elected first and
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Speaker 8: then I think it's a race between Labor for the
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Speaker 8: second seat.
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Speaker 6: The Act only sends two senators to Federal Parliament, traditionally
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Speaker 6: a Labour stronghold. It would take a significant shift away
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Speaker 6: from the government to pose any real threat to her position.
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Speaker 6: Cameron Radden's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Cam, thanks for that. Let's bring in
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Speaker 2: our first panel tonight. Deputy Executive Director at the IPA,
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Speaker 2: Daniel Wilde and chief of staff for Pauline Hanson's One
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Speaker 2: Nation James Ashby, Welcome to you both. Let's start on
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Speaker 2: the economy. Treasurer again out today claiming the government spending
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Speaker 2: is not driving up inflation as Labour considers taking additional
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Speaker 2: power bill cuts to the election, although he said there
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Speaker 2: that that might not now happen. He has admitted businesses
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Speaker 2: will need to help pull the nation out of the
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Speaker 2: worst economic slump since the recession in the nineteen nineties.
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Speaker 2: But it's all spinned from Jim Chalmers. The OECD. As
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Speaker 2: we know you've both seen this called on Australia's federal
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Speaker 2: and state governments to reign in spending. Good luck with
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Speaker 2: that in places like Victoria. James, what do you make
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Speaker 2: of they're trying to sneak through to an election. It
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Speaker 2: would appear to me and pretend that nothing is their fault.
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Speaker 9: I've always said that, you know, politics is much like farming.
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Speaker 9: If you prepare and get the groundwork right, anything will grow. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 9: this is a government that's gone out there with a
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Speaker 9: thousand litter pot of round up and just dumped it
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Speaker 9: on the paddock and said to businesses, go and grow something.
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Speaker 9: I'm sorry you've destroyed the fertile ground the previous governments
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Speaker 9: have left.
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Speaker 10: And this is the issue that a lot of businesses
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Speaker 10: face today.
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Speaker 9: They just don't want to go and invest money, knowing
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Speaker 9: very well that money in the bank there is safer
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Speaker 9: than putting money into a business because the government keep
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Speaker 9: moving the goalposts. And it's not just business facing this,
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Speaker 9: it's people at home with their self managed super funds.
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Speaker 9: As we've seen, the goalpost just keep moving. So there's
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Speaker 9: a great deal of concern out there in the business world.
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Speaker 9: And what right does a government have to come and
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Speaker 9: destroy all that good work and then lean on the
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Speaker 9: very industries that you've put under all this great immense pressure.
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Speaker 10: Not a good look, Daniel.
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Speaker 2: I mean I made the point there in the opening
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Speaker 2: that what the opposition leader put it up and needs
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Speaker 2: to keep doing in all of his front bench is
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Speaker 2: just keep repeat in the question do you feel better
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Speaker 2: now than you fell two and a half years ago? Now?
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Speaker 2: Labour promised that we would feel better, Labor promised we'd
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Speaker 2: have cheaper power. Labour said the other mob was screwed
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Speaker 2: it up. They got voted out. But does anyone feel
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Speaker 2: like we're in a better position than we were before
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Speaker 2: Anthony ALBNIZI won.
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Speaker 5: You bang on.
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Speaker 11: I think the only people that are better offer are
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Speaker 11: public servant bureaucrats and big corporates, because if you're in
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Speaker 11: a small business or the private sector, or someone living
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Speaker 11: in the suburbs or.
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Speaker 5: Regions, you're going backwards.
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Speaker 11: As you pointed out in your monologue and actually just
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Speaker 11: had on the screen before, we're now in seven consecutive
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Speaker 11: quarters of negative per capita economic growth, which is the
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Speaker 11: longest acclient to living standards since digitized records began in
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Speaker 11: the early nineteen seventies. So we are in Whitlam territory.
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Speaker 11: This is something that we've been pointing out now for months.
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Speaker 11: And the problem, Steve, is that this is a redistributionist government,
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Speaker 11: not a growth government. It's a Whitlam government, not a
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Speaker 11: Hork government. It's focused on sectional interest, not the national interest,
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Speaker 11: and that's why it's not achieving community support for its initiatives.
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Speaker 11: The only lever that they're pulling for economic growth is
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Speaker 11: this mass migration program. And of course more people means
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Speaker 11: a bigger economy. It means you have a bigger pie,
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Speaker 11: but the slice of that pie is getting smaller in
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Speaker 11: terms of what Australias are getting in their back pockets,
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Speaker 11: and that's what our lived experience is. You know, when
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Speaker 11: people are driving around taking their kids to school, trying
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Speaker 11: to access basic social services. It's much harder today than
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Speaker 11: it used to be because this program hasn't been planned
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Speaker 11: for and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
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Speaker 2: James, Daniel and I have the misfortune of living in
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Speaker 2: the great socialist state of Victoria. The comparisons between the
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Speaker 2: Andrews Allen government and the Alban Easy Charmers government are
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Speaker 2: starting to become crystal clear. I mean, the spending that
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Speaker 2: knows no end regardless of the state of the economy.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Victorians playing twenty six million dollars
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Speaker 2: a day in interest on the debt of Victoria. I feared,
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Speaker 2: James that the socialist left Victorian government, the one in
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Speaker 2: camera's starting to look just as bad as the one
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Speaker 2: that Dani and I have to live under.
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Speaker 9: Well, we know all about the predicament that you're living
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Speaker 9: under down there in Victoria, because so many Victorians are
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Speaker 9: actually making the move to Queensland. In fact, there's been
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Speaker 9: plenty of reports in the last couple of weeks in
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Speaker 9: our Queensland paper here the Career mail suggesting, and I
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Speaker 9: know firsthand just talking to people here on the streets
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Speaker 9: of your pooon. They're coming from down south and they
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Speaker 9: know they've got a better lifestyle here because they could
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Speaker 9: buy a house much cheaper. Our environments are hell of
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Speaker 9: a lot better. You can actually use the days a
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Speaker 9: whole lot better. And you're not paying just countless taxes.
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Speaker 9: You know, look at the land tax that people in
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Speaker 9: Victoria have been have had imposed upon them. There's just
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Speaker 9: tax after the tax after the tax coming the way
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Speaker 9: of Victorians.
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Speaker 10: Now, I'm not suggesting I want all the Victorians.
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Speaker 9: To move up here, because I don't want your voting
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Speaker 9: patent up here in Queensland.
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Speaker 10: Only come up here.
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Speaker 9: If you're a conservative, Acame, you're welcome, Steve, you can
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Speaker 9: come up any time.
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Speaker 10: Dan, You're welcome to mate.
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Speaker 9: But as for the others that voted this Labor government
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Speaker 9: in stay down there. You voted them, and you deal
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Speaker 9: with it, because we don't want you up here wrecking
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Speaker 9: our state.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there'll be too many Victorians who'll be
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Speaker 2: voting Labor again in the short term. Daniel. Just on
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Speaker 2: the Victorian government, it's reported today that they paid consultants.
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Speaker 2: You won't believe there's two million dollars they got. These
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Speaker 2: consultants from Interstate paid them two million bucks to advise
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Speaker 2: them on how how can we raise more revenue, how
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Speaker 2: can we get out of the debt spiral that we're
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Speaker 2: in And it included a possible asset sale list the
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Speaker 2: state treasuries and your report confirms this mob Sydney based
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Speaker 2: group called ad Astra Corporate Advisory good luck to them,
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Speaker 2: was paid one point seven million last financial year and
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Speaker 2: three hundred and nineteen thousand this year for quote commercial
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Speaker 2: and transaction advice. Seriously, how many public servants have we
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Speaker 2: got living and working in Victoria appointed by Dan Andrews
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Speaker 2: and they've got to go out outsource to get advice
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Speaker 2: from what to how they can get more money off
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Speaker 2: tax players?
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Speaker 5: Well, exactly right.
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Speaker 11: I mean the only growth industry in Victoria is the
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Speaker 11: public servant industry. I've got to say Steve that I've
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Speaker 11: also jumped ship from Victoria. I didn't go north, I
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Speaker 11: went west into South Australia. But I'm happy to take
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Speaker 11: up the offer to head up to head up to
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Speaker 11: Sonny and Queensland in the future for sure, and just
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Speaker 11: like thousands of people that are getting out of the state,
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Speaker 11: you'll be the only one left Steve soon.
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Speaker 5: So but it's a real issue.
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Speaker 11: When they say they want, you know, revenue raising options,
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Speaker 11: you know what, that's code for more taxes and higher taxes.
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Speaker 11: I think they're running out of things in this state
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Speaker 11: to tax, Steve. It's the highest taxing state, highest debt state,
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Speaker 11: highest spending in terms of the growth of that spending.
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Speaker 5: We put out a report about.
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Speaker 11: Four or five months ago showing Victoria was at the
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Speaker 11: bottom of the economic league ladder across Australia. It's good
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Speaker 11: to see the Business Council twigged on that earlier this
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Speaker 11: week and reinforce what we'd had done earlier. And the
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Speaker 11: reality is that you ask any small business owner, Steve,
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Speaker 11: do you reckon things are easier or harder today than
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Speaker 11: they were three or five or ten years ago. And
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Speaker 11: I could tell you ninety nine times out of one
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Speaker 11: hundred what the answer to that is. Because of the
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Speaker 11: energy prices that are going up and the taxes that
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Speaker 11: we just mentioned, but also just the stifling green tape
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Speaker 11: and red tape, the native title they've got to contend with.
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Speaker 11: It's almost impossible to get ahead and employ people in
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Speaker 11: Victoria anymore, and that's why businesses are leaving the state.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm speaking to a guy today, admittedly very well
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Speaker 2: off guy. But his land Tex bill on his house
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Speaker 2: that is not his main house in the city one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. He's got to
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Speaker 2: pay in land tax. James, I want to talk to
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Speaker 2: you about what happened and caught up in Queensland today.
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Speaker 2: Teenage boy thirteen years old. He crashed a stolen car.
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Speaker 2: He's thirteen when he did this, he's now fifteen. He
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Speaker 2: killed three women. He's been sentenced to six years detention.
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Speaker 2: He'll never spend a day in an adult prison. The
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Speaker 2: family spoke to the media this afternoon. As you would imagine,
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Speaker 2: they're pretty unhappy. You have a look, it was going to.
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Speaker 12: Be a small sentence, but we were just hoping for more.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't feel remorse zero.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely disgraceful. That sentence, James. It highlights, doesn't it the
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Speaker 2: urgency of the new premier, Chris of Fooley's adult crime
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Speaker 2: adult time laws they need to become I mean they're
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Speaker 2: not retrospective, but he needs to get him in quickly.
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad you've got more confidence in them than
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Speaker 9: I do, Steve, because at the end of the day,
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Speaker 9: you can put all the legislation through the Parliament that
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Speaker 9: you like, but it comes down to the judge and
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Speaker 9: implementing those laws.
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Speaker 10: Look, this is a light sentence. I keep saying this.
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Speaker 9: I want to see inside these courtrooms blow these kids'
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Speaker 9: faces out. But I want to know, as a member
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Speaker 9: of the public, why these judges are coming up with
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Speaker 9: these determinations. Surely I'm missing something. Are you missing something?
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Speaker 9: Because if I am my way, i'd shake the living
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Speaker 9: hell out of these kids and say why did you
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Speaker 9: do this to start with?
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Speaker 10: I don't know.
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Speaker 9: Maybe times have changed. I remember, mate, we had no
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Speaker 9: interest in stealing cars. We're an interest in getting on
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Speaker 9: dirt bikes. When we were kids, we saw ride out
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Speaker 9: in the forestry ride and mates paddocks and you know
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Speaker 9: it was on us if we wrapped ourselves around a tree.
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Speaker 9: But these kids today just clearly have no sense of responsibility,
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Speaker 9: they have no sense of care, and they have no.
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Speaker 10: Healthy fear of the law or parents anymore.
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Speaker 9: I don't know what's going wrong, but we've got to
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Speaker 9: come up with a better solution, and these judges have
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Speaker 9: got to have a better understanding of what the public
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Speaker 9: expect from them when it comes to sentencing.
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Speaker 2: James. The kid was out on bail. He'd been already
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Speaker 2: charged with being found driving a car at two hundred
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Speaker 2: and sixteen kilometers an hour. He was on bail when
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Speaker 2: he killed these women.
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Speaker 9: And the other issue is the judge made a point
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Speaker 9: of saying had a clean history, no criminal record.
18:58
Speaker 10: That's just right.
18:59
Speaker 9: That's a slap in the face. Is it's a spit
19:02
Speaker 9: in the face. Actually, it's more insultant, insulting than a slap.
19:05
Speaker 9: It's a spit in the face of these poor people
19:08
Speaker 9: that had to be in that courtroom, that have lost
19:09
Speaker 9: loved ones, and this is impacted on a community. We
19:12
Speaker 9: lost three decent women, but we lost one with so
19:16
Speaker 9: many skill sets there.
19:17
Speaker 10: She was a nurse.
19:18
Speaker 9: I just hope this kid, in some way, shape or form,
19:21
Speaker 9: can be reformed in the prison system. I hope he
19:24
Speaker 9: turns out to be something like a paramedic or a
19:27
Speaker 9: doctor or something.
19:28
Speaker 10: In the future.
19:29
Speaker 9: I don't have much hope there, but look, hopefully someone
19:32
Speaker 9: gets him and remolds him, because he's on a pathway
19:35
Speaker 9: to nowhere at this current rate.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love your optimism. I don't think that's going
19:43
Speaker 2: to happen. Just before we go, Daniel very quickly the
19:46
Speaker 2: Prime Minister's Department. This shows how out to touch these
19:48
Speaker 2: people are. The PM's department spent twenty thousand dollars on
19:52
Speaker 2: flowers and paid Jessica mal By forty four thousand dollars
19:57
Speaker 2: to singing a couple of songs at the asy end
20:00
Speaker 2: back in March. Some of the items the taxpayers were
20:03
Speaker 2: slugged for a twelve meter long flour arrangement for the
20:06
Speaker 2: Great Hall dinner table worth hundred and sixty dollars. This blow.
20:11
Speaker 2: This is the bloke who spent four and a half
20:13
Speaker 2: million dollars on a beach house and he's got his
20:16
Speaker 2: department spending forty four grand to have someone sing a song.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 11: Why they can't do these things on zoom Steve. I mean, look,
20:24
Speaker 11: I'm all in favor of trade and negotiations, but do
20:27
Speaker 11: we really need a big international knees up, you know,
20:30
Speaker 11: particularly at the times that they're we're in at the moment.
20:32
Speaker 11: So I think it just captures the out of touch
20:34
Speaker 11: nature of the government. I don't think that people be
20:36
Speaker 11: grudge having conferences that they're going to be productive. But again,
20:40
Speaker 11: you've got to look at where you can cut back
20:41
Speaker 11: on these expenses. And it is a very bad sign
20:43
Speaker 11: and a bad I think look for the government, particularly
20:45
Speaker 11: at this time when they're putting money into the economy
20:48
Speaker 11: fueling inflation. Jim Charmis is having an argument with the
20:51
Speaker 11: RBA governor and then the news about this comes out,
20:53
Speaker 11: so it certainly can't help him.
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Speaker 2: I can't sing, but I might go into the florist's business.
20:59
Speaker 2: I reckon Daniel and James. Thank you very much, guys.
21:02
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you soon. Now coming up after
21:05
Speaker 2: the break tonight, the taxpayer funded mob that's doing everything
21:09
Speaker 2: it can to hold up major economic projects, plus Peter
21:13
Speaker 2: Dutton's push to win back teal seats. My question is
21:16
Speaker 2: does this come at the expense of working harder in
21:20
Speaker 2: working class outer suburbs that's to come Welcome back step
21:27
Speaker 2: Prisce in for Peter tonight. We'll get onto those teals
21:30
Speaker 2: in just a moment. What's become pretty clear though to
21:32
Speaker 2: me in recent weeks is just how much of a
21:35
Speaker 2: vexed issue balancing the environmental concerns and industry has become
21:39
Speaker 2: for this Albanezy government. Now the flashpoint at all of
21:42
Speaker 2: this is this outfit called the Environmental Defender's Office known
21:46
Speaker 2: as the EDO, which receives wait for it, just shy
21:50
Speaker 2: of ten million dollars in taxpayers funding and more from
21:54
Speaker 2: the States, now effectively launching spurious legal action against significant
21:58
Speaker 2: economic projects like the multi billion dollar Santos Barossa gas project. Now,
22:04
Speaker 2: even today we're getting some more detail about the green
22:08
Speaker 2: law fare that was waged against that company, with one
22:11
Speaker 2: anthropologist drafted by the EDO dismissing her rival's work as
22:17
Speaker 2: likely to be quote total crap before she'd even read it. Now,
22:22
Speaker 2: this is a so called expert who could not take
22:24
Speaker 2: the time to look at a dissenting report. What does
22:27
Speaker 2: that tell you? Honestly, this is just the tip of
22:30
Speaker 2: the iceberg. So joining me now someone who's very familiar
22:33
Speaker 2: with the work of the EDO, energy market analyst Saul Kavoniksaul,
22:38
Speaker 2: nice to see you again. You wrote a scathing piece,
22:41
Speaker 2: a brilliant piece, i should say, on the EDO earlier
22:44
Speaker 2: this week. Do you think their loss in the Santos
22:48
Speaker 2: Barossa gas case maybe will change the ground under the EDO.
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Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, it's unlikely it's going to change things because
22:59
Speaker 1: the Labor gouvern is quite aware of the activities that
23:02
Speaker 1: IDEO has been up to. In the wake of them
23:05
Speaker 1: losing the court case earlier this year, they held an
23:09
Speaker 1: internally in investigation of course, run by their lawyers, which
23:12
Speaker 1: are already supporters of THEIRS, and we understand that government
23:16
Speaker 1: was privy to some of that and have done a
23:17
Speaker 1: bit of their own review and yet continued to fund them.
23:21
Speaker 1: And this comes down to an issue that our federal
23:26
Speaker 1: government has where they've actually acknowledged that the regulations that
23:30
Speaker 1: the IDEO are using to engage in this economic terrorism
23:33
Speaker 1: against our own country need to be changed, but Labour
23:37
Speaker 1: keeps doing deals with the Greens in order to then
23:40
Speaker 1: avoid fixing these regulations and getting our economy out of
23:44
Speaker 1: the purview and crosshairs of these extreme environmental groups.
23:50
Speaker 2: So why was this outfit set up in the first place.
23:57
Speaker 1: Well, originally, groups like EDO are designed to help almost
24:02
Speaker 1: as a form of legal aid, to help individuals who
24:07
Speaker 1: need to bring our cases to protect their own land, etc.
24:11
Speaker 1: Around the country, which is a perfectly valid and noble
24:13
Speaker 1: thing to be doing, and no one's saying that we
24:15
Speaker 1: shouldn't be having legal aid for, for example, for farmers
24:18
Speaker 1: or indigenous people around the country. The problem we have
24:21
Speaker 1: with what the EDIO is doing is it's actually betraying
24:24
Speaker 1: that core constituency of the people they're supposed to be
24:26
Speaker 1: looking after by diverting its funding away from helping people
24:30
Speaker 1: who need legal aid towards an ulterior environmental agenda, and
24:34
Speaker 1: quite an extreme one. You know it keeps wearing in
24:38
Speaker 1: mind here. The goal of this campaign, according to the
24:42
Speaker 1: fund one of the funders of the EDIO themselves, is
24:45
Speaker 1: about ending Australia's oil in US industry. They're engaging in
24:49
Speaker 1: a sophisticated and partly foreign funded campaign to destroy one
24:54
Speaker 1: of the largest parts of Australia's economy, and they're winning
24:58
Speaker 1: in this fight. Already, ten of billions of dollars of
25:01
Speaker 1: investment has been diverted away from Australia as a result
25:04
Speaker 1: of the eedio's tactics. We've seen major Australian companies like
25:07
Speaker 1: Woodside now choosing to invest billions of dollars in places
25:10
Speaker 1: like North America instead of Australia because of what the
25:14
Speaker 1: EDEO is doing here. Right, this is in addition to
25:17
Speaker 1: the damage that they're doing to thousands of jobs, literally
25:20
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of ossie blue collar jobs they want
25:24
Speaker 1: to not exist anymore, and they've put workers at risk.
25:27
Speaker 1: There's workers who've been put in hazardous conditions offshore and
25:31
Speaker 1: then needlessly have to wait and turn around because of
25:33
Speaker 1: the eedeo's legal tactics. So they're winning in their battle
25:36
Speaker 1: to stop one of Australia's largest economic engines. They've got
25:40
Speaker 1: a significant part of foreign funding and it's all been
25:43
Speaker 1: done for our tier ideological motive. And if you look
25:46
Speaker 1: up the definition of economic terrorism, this fits it to
25:50
Speaker 1: a tee. We would expect our governments when a foreign
25:54
Speaker 1: funded organization is orchestrating a campaign against our ot economy
25:58
Speaker 1: like this, to at least demand some more transparency on
26:01
Speaker 1: their motors, their activities and their funding sources, let alone
26:04
Speaker 1: regulate it more. But instead our labor government is in
26:08
Speaker 1: fact funding the EDOS own campaign against Australia's economy and
26:12
Speaker 1: against the government's own regulatory decisions.
26:16
Speaker 2: Absolutely crazy. I mean, they're swimming in money. I think
26:19
Speaker 2: we read during the week, didn't we that even Steve
26:21
Speaker 2: Job's widow is plowing money into it there's money coming
26:25
Speaker 2: out of the United States. They're swimming in money. So
26:27
Speaker 2: what happens, Saul, If I'm a farmer who says to
26:32
Speaker 2: is going to have transmission lines rammed through a property,
26:35
Speaker 2: I don't want them. I think they're going to be
26:38
Speaker 2: environmentally destructive and dangerous. If I turn up at the
26:41
Speaker 2: front door and knock on the front door of the eder,
26:44
Speaker 2: are they going to defend my case for me?
26:48
Speaker 1: Well, it looks like they've spend all their money trying
26:49
Speaker 1: to end up fossil fuel industry instead of actually helping
26:52
Speaker 1: folks like the people you just mentioned who really need
26:55
Speaker 1: you should be the beneficiary of these kinds of funds.
26:58
Speaker 1: And that's why they really needs to be much more
27:00
Speaker 1: government screwed in the here and a consideration if this
27:03
Speaker 1: is the right mob to actually be undertaking the mandate,
27:06
Speaker 1: which still matters for those people who do need some
27:09
Speaker 1: genuine help.
27:10
Speaker 10: You know.
27:10
Speaker 1: Also in the foreign funding side, for example, is another group.
27:13
Speaker 1: And just because we do not have good transparency on
27:16
Speaker 1: who funds these guys, because they're not actually subject to
27:19
Speaker 1: the same levels of disclosure as Australian companies because they're
27:22
Speaker 1: set up as a nonprofit group but one of the
27:24
Speaker 1: ones we have found is a Danish group who donates
27:27
Speaker 1: the IDIO. They also happen to donate money to Senator
27:30
Speaker 1: Pocost's wife's charity at the same time that Senator po
27:34
Speaker 1: cop takes a very anti fossil fuel view in Parliament.
27:37
Speaker 5: And when you have.
27:38
Speaker 1: This level of foreign funding, we don't know the extent
27:41
Speaker 1: of it, and we don't know if they have ulterior
27:43
Speaker 1: commercial interests or coming from hostile powers. Bearing in mind
27:47
Speaker 1: was only a number of years ago we found out
27:49
Speaker 1: that Russia was funding anti fossil fuel campaigns in the UK,
27:53
Speaker 1: for example at a medium. We need some more transparency here,
27:56
Speaker 1: not see the government instead supporting these kind of the
27:59
Speaker 1: furious activity against our economy.
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Speaker 2: Well, good on you for shining a light on. Good
28:04
Speaker 2: luck with the rest of you. Work on that, Saul Kavonic.
28:07
Speaker 2: They're telling us, you know, really what this mob's up to,
28:10
Speaker 2: And as he said, we don't have the proper transparracy. Now,
28:14
Speaker 2: I mentioned the teals earlier irrespective of when the election
28:17
Speaker 2: is actually called, and I think it's probably going to
28:19
Speaker 2: be a little earlier now rather than later. It's clear
28:22
Speaker 2: that the political strategists are going to be very busy
28:25
Speaker 2: this summer getting ready for whenever it's called. Yesterday, Peter Dutton,
28:29
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, was campaigning in dy with Liberal candidate
28:32
Speaker 2: for the Seed of mckeller, James Brown, who was also
28:35
Speaker 2: joined by the recently selected Liberal candidate for Wringa, Jamie Rodgers,
28:40
Speaker 2: with the opposition leader conceding that those seats to your
28:43
Speaker 2: seats are crucial if the coalition wants to form government.
28:47
Speaker 2: I tend to disagree with Peter Dutton. I think he's
28:50
Speaker 2: got much better places to spend his time and out
28:54
Speaker 2: metropolitan seats of Sydney and Melbourne joining me. Now someone
28:57
Speaker 2: will know more than me about it and the analysis
29:00
Speaker 2: on this former Blue Ribbon seats. DPG Advisory Solutions founder
29:04
Speaker 2: and director David Gazzard David am I on the money
29:07
Speaker 2: or can the Liberals actually go back and pick up
29:11
Speaker 2: those seats which were a duel in the Crown seats
29:14
Speaker 2: like we're inger.
29:17
Speaker 13: Look, I think they can steve and in some ways
29:21
Speaker 13: I don't think you need to look at it as
29:23
Speaker 13: a dichotomy between the western Sydney seats for instance, and
29:26
Speaker 13: the Teal seats which are more in the affluent areas
29:30
Speaker 13: in Sydney and Melbourne, and there's some recent history, or
29:34
Speaker 13: probably I consider it recent, but I'm growing a bit older.
29:39
Speaker 13: If you go back to the nineteen ninety nine state
29:42
Speaker 13: election in which in Victoria where Kennet lost and lost
29:45
Speaker 13: by fifteen seats. Most of those came in regional areas.
29:50
Speaker 13: Most were conservative seats, but the independence that.
30:04
Speaker 2: I think we've got a great issue there with the audio.
30:08
Speaker 2: We'll see if we can get that back. We'll be
30:09
Speaker 2: back after this welcome back. We've got David gazarb with
30:18
Speaker 2: this apology. David, we had a few gremlins there. I
30:21
Speaker 2: think you're making that point there that it's not in
30:23
Speaker 2: either or situation. You can target these seats hope that
30:27
Speaker 2: you can get some of them back on your side
30:30
Speaker 2: of the ledger, but you can also work hard in
30:32
Speaker 2: the outer suburban parts of western Sydney and northern suburbs
30:36
Speaker 2: of Melbourne. That's right.
30:40
Speaker 13: The smart teals will be looking at the direction that
30:43
Speaker 13: the rest of the country goes, and they'll also be
30:46
Speaker 13: looking at their seats. Remember a lot of these seats
30:48
Speaker 13: were formerly conservative seats. So if they want to back
30:53
Speaker 13: another Albanese government over the will of their seats and
30:57
Speaker 13: the swing of the majority of Australians. They do at
31:00
Speaker 13: their peril. The other example in this was in twenty
31:03
Speaker 13: ten Steve in the minority parliament of Julia Gillard, where
31:11
Speaker 13: Bob Catter was sensible enough to say, look, I'm not
31:13
Speaker 13: going to back Julia Gillard. But Rob Oakshot and Tony
31:16
Speaker 13: Windsor did back that government against the wishes of their
31:19
Speaker 13: seat and learned, to their great peril they had been
31:22
Speaker 13: a terrible mistake and ended up having to resign. So
31:26
Speaker 13: if I were one of the teals, I'd be saying, look,
31:29
Speaker 13: I'm looking at broader issues around where the majority of
31:34
Speaker 13: Australians are going, and I'll make my mind up accordingly.
31:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were a bit of a mystery
31:41
Speaker 2: last time. I mean, you know, people don't pay as
31:44
Speaker 2: much attention to these things as you and I do
31:47
Speaker 2: and the rest of SkyTeam. But you know, TiAl didn't
31:50
Speaker 2: really mean a hell of a lot and they said, oh, well,
31:52
Speaker 2: you know we're pro climate change, vote for US. I
31:55
Speaker 2: mean you talk about seats like you know Kung where,
32:00
Speaker 2: of course Josh lost. They've got a great candidate in
32:03
Speaker 2: there this time up against Monique Ryan in Amelia Hamer
32:06
Speaker 2: so on what you've seen of the pre selection so far,
32:09
Speaker 2: and I mentioned those two in the Northern Beaches of Sydney.
32:13
Speaker 2: Have the Libs done an okay job this time in
32:15
Speaker 2: selecting candidates, then that can appeal broadly to those people
32:19
Speaker 2: who went Teal.
32:22
Speaker 13: Yes, Look the Amelia I think you know is a
32:26
Speaker 13: known commodity in Victoria. I think Jason Lensky, Mate, No,
32:31
Speaker 13: it's James I think going to go again in Or
32:34
Speaker 13: He's going to go in the Northern Beaches. And you've
32:38
Speaker 13: got a tried and true, tested candidate in Tim Wilson
32:42
Speaker 13: going in Goldstein. The other thing you've got to remember
32:44
Speaker 13: in this election that will play out in Goldstein and
32:48
Speaker 13: in Wentworth is a higher proportion of Jewish voters who
32:52
Speaker 13: probably flirted with the Teals last time rant might have
32:55
Speaker 13: flirted with the Greens and Labor, but I think they'll
32:57
Speaker 13: be voting in a block for the cold this time around.
33:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in Goldstein you're absolutely correct. I mean
33:05
Speaker 2: Tim Wilson was a very vocal and high profile local member,
33:09
Speaker 2: so they know who is just for you go if
33:12
Speaker 2: are you a betting mat, I don't know. When do
33:15
Speaker 2: you think we're going to go to the election. I
33:17
Speaker 2: mean I've bounced between May back to March, back to April,
33:22
Speaker 2: back to May again back to March. I think what's
33:26
Speaker 2: happened this week, particularly with those bad economic figures that
33:30
Speaker 2: Charmers was forced to try and defend yesterday, They're going
33:35
Speaker 2: to be more likely you want to go before a
33:37
Speaker 2: budget rather than after one, aren't they.
33:40
Speaker 13: I don't think they want to budget at all, Steve.
33:42
Speaker 13: A budget would crystallize the size of the forecast deficit.
33:46
Speaker 13: There's going to be a lot of red ink around.
33:49
Speaker 13: They want a campaign on the back of two surpluses
33:51
Speaker 13: that have been generated by extraordinary profits in the mining sector.
33:56
Speaker 13: They won't want to be a wash with red ink
33:58
Speaker 13: in any kind of budget setting. The other reason is
34:01
Speaker 13: that the public will be expecting a big spending cost
34:04
Speaker 13: of living budget to alleviate their concerns, and as we know,
34:08
Speaker 13: spending is already running at record levels, and anything the
34:11
Speaker 13: government could do in any budget next year is going
34:15
Speaker 13: to be inflationary, which would be exactly counter to the
34:18
Speaker 13: needs of most people that are struggling with high cost
34:21
Speaker 13: of living concerns.
34:22
Speaker 2: Now, great to tap into your intel, David Gazard, Thank
34:27
Speaker 2: you very much for joining us tonight. Well, let's bring
34:29
Speaker 2: in my panel columnus with the spectator Terry Barnes, of course,
34:33
Speaker 2: Peter Regular and LMP Senator James McGrath. Welcome to you both.
34:38
Speaker 2: Let's start with Peter Dutton and what he was up
34:41
Speaker 2: to today. He's taken aim at Renewables agenda again. He's
34:45
Speaker 2: pledged to scrap this massive wind farm off Port Stevens.
34:49
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times you guys have been
34:51
Speaker 2: to Port Stevens. It's one of the most gorgeous places
34:53
Speaker 2: on the planet, he says. Coalition wins, James, we're going
34:58
Speaker 2: to scrap it.
34:59
Speaker 14: Good move, a very good move to scrap it. What
35:05
Speaker 14: Peter wants to see is lower electricity prices and reliable electricity.
35:09
Speaker 14: But he also wants to make sure the communities back it.
35:12
Speaker 14: And if you go to that part of New South Wales,
35:15
Speaker 14: the likeals there do not want these wind farms. So
35:18
Speaker 14: Peter is listening to people and he's going to make
35:21
Speaker 14: sure should we win the election, we're going to scrap it.
35:25
Speaker 2: Perhaps we could relocate it, James and put it off
35:28
Speaker 2: copa Kabana Beach.
35:34
Speaker 14: Near the retirement home. I think that isn't that a
35:36
Speaker 14: sort of bullying or something like that. I just think
35:39
Speaker 14: with people just want to make sure that their electricity
35:43
Speaker 14: is cheap and reliable. And we've got an agnostic approach
35:46
Speaker 14: to electricity, whereas labor have a real ideological approach. That's
35:49
Speaker 14: why we're saying, let's have nuclear. We've got a further
35:53
Speaker 14: world's uranium, which we're a geologically stable country. And guess what,
35:57
Speaker 14: we've already got nuclear here. It's going to be in
35:59
Speaker 14: the Marines, are going to help defend this country.
36:04
Speaker 2: Absolutely parked in a circular care At some point, Terry
36:08
Speaker 2: the opposition saying that look, Anthony Albanezi and his all
36:13
Speaker 2: of his cabinet are really trying to appeal to Green's
36:16
Speaker 2: voters not to vote Green and to vote for Labor,
36:19
Speaker 2: and they don't really care about these communities where these
36:23
Speaker 2: massive wind farms and solar factories are going to go.
36:27
Speaker 2: They're more worried about keeping their votes in inner city
36:30
Speaker 2: Melbourne and Sydney away from the Greens.
36:33
Speaker 8: Well that's right, and don't forget to Steve about those
36:36
Speaker 8: seven arms that are going to go in Tasmania.
36:39
Speaker 12: Second people have their way the inner city Green's happy,
36:43
Speaker 12: they're prepared to.
36:44
Speaker 8: Destroy the economy of Western Tasmania. So that's a real,
36:48
Speaker 8: real problem. Really. I think if I was looking at
36:53
Speaker 8: anything at the moment, Steve, I would be looking at
36:55
Speaker 8: the Redbridge accent to a research poll analysis seat by
37:00
Speaker 8: seat that came out Justice Afternoon, which showed that when
37:03
Speaker 8: it comes to Ports Stevens that seats all down Newcastle,
37:07
Speaker 8: the Hunter the central coast of New South Wales are
37:11
Speaker 8: in play and are actually.
37:12
Speaker 12: Leaning towards the Coalition.
37:13
Speaker 8: So if that's nol Ben Easy has got a death wish,
37:16
Speaker 8: then he should actually go ahead with this sprink time, shouldn't.
37:21
Speaker 5: Yeah.
37:21
Speaker 2: Look, I think Labour's clearly underestimated James. The anger in
37:26
Speaker 2: regional and rural Australia where they're sitting around going well,
37:29
Speaker 2: hang on a minute. It might be fine for you
37:31
Speaker 2: people in the city that you want to have your
37:33
Speaker 2: wind farms in your solar farms, but they're not going
37:36
Speaker 2: to be anywhere near where you live, so you won't
37:39
Speaker 2: have to worry about it. I mean, it's a classic
37:41
Speaker 2: case of not in my backyard. But these poor people
37:44
Speaker 2: in regional Australia are just getting rolled over rough shod
37:49
Speaker 2: and they're not going to be very happy when it
37:50
Speaker 2: comes round to.
37:51
Speaker 14: Voting, they're not going to be very happy. And what
37:57
Speaker 14: makes regional Australians and I live on the Darling Down
38:00
Speaker 14: even angrier is when we get city people, especially like
38:03
Speaker 14: the Tills and the Lefties and the Labor Party saying
38:06
Speaker 14: you've got to have this for the best interest in
38:08
Speaker 14: the country, and go, well, what are you doing for
38:10
Speaker 14: the best into the country. I bet you still have
38:12
Speaker 14: your ecoditioner on, you have your big TVs and you're
38:15
Speaker 14: enjoying your electricity, but you don't want to have a
38:18
Speaker 14: solar farm near you're a wind farm near you. It
38:20
Speaker 14: is hypocrisy of the highest standard and it's going to
38:24
Speaker 14: be called out every day from now to the next election.
38:27
Speaker 14: And next election, I think there is going to be
38:29
Speaker 14: a bit of an uprising around Australia against the Labor Party.
38:32
Speaker 14: I've been saying this for a while now. There's a
38:34
Speaker 14: real the'minace attitude between the mob and camera and everybody else.
38:40
Speaker 2: Terry I've written a column about this tomorrow. I couldn't
38:42
Speaker 2: believe that crazy pub outfit that decided they weren't going
38:45
Speaker 2: to have Australia Days celebrations inside their two hundred hotels
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Speaker 2: around the country. I mean, it just takes me back
38:51
Speaker 2: to last year with Woolworths and the Flags. I mean,
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Speaker 2: these corporates that keep lecturing to people are just extraordinary.
38:59
Speaker 2: They don't learn anything. They didn't learn anything from the
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Speaker 2: voice result we do. At least now they have one
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Speaker 2: pub in Sydney proudly announcing good on them that they're
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Speaker 2: going to celebrate Australia Day the Australian Venue Co though they,
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Speaker 2: I reckon are going to see a real downturn in business.
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Speaker 2: I've rarely seen a reaction like this. When this mob
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Speaker 2: announced this the Herald Sun website, the comments section in
39:24
Speaker 2: off the back of an opinion piece went to over
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Speaker 2: a thousand comments, nearly blew up talkback radio around the country.
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Speaker 2: How could you be so dumb when you're running a
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Speaker 2: hotel business to tell people don't come to our hotels
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Speaker 2: on Australia Day because we don't want you. Well, that's right.
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Speaker 12: When it comes to hospitality, I think the advertising cat
39:47
Speaker 12: prows of the Kentucky Fried Chicken actually is what every
39:50
Speaker 12: hospitality operator should be saying, shut up and they'll take
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Speaker 12: your money, and that's they should shut up. That's the
39:57
Speaker 12: operative word here.
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Speaker 8: They should shut up, just focus on making sure that
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Speaker 8: people have a good time, enjoy themselves. They make a
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Speaker 8: profit in the very profit strained industry. But really, the
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Speaker 8: Australian Venue Company, which is the subsidiary of a private
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Speaker 8: equity fund in Hong Kong, as turns out, has no
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Speaker 8: real idea. I mean what was last summer had no
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Speaker 8: real idea. All those corporates, in fact, the boys had
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Speaker 8: no real idea. It's just absolutely the disconnect between corporate
40:27
Speaker 8: Australia and the customers, the hunters they rely on to
40:31
Speaker 8: make their profits, make their shareholders happy. It's just absolutely amazing.
40:36
Speaker 8: And the ten years that this group show in saying
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Speaker 8: on Monday that we're not going to do anything for
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Speaker 8: Australia Day and banner on Tuesday, backing down and groppling.
40:47
Speaker 8: But already I mean, if you talked about the comments
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Speaker 8: in the papers, but the boycotts that people have promised
40:54
Speaker 8: to make of those those venues given the list are
40:56
Speaker 8: out there to know where to go.
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Speaker 12: I mean what I known.
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Speaker 8: It's spectacular and hopefully it's a sign that work is
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Speaker 8: in retreat.
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Speaker 2: Well, people are making bookings at those pubs and then
41:08
Speaker 2: refusing to turn up James, can you describe Australia Day
41:11
Speaker 2: in your community.
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Speaker 14: A lot of people were going to my local part,
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Speaker 14: the Sandy Creek Pub, because that pub loves Australia Day
41:21
Speaker 14: and will celebrate Australia Day. It's just people who love
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Speaker 14: our country. It is the best country in the world.
41:26
Speaker 14: We know it's not perfect, but it is the best
41:28
Speaker 14: country in the world. People are going to get together
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Speaker 14: with their friends and their family. Some will drink, some
41:33
Speaker 14: won't drink. Everyone's just going to have a good time.
41:36
Speaker 14: And I'd say to all these political wowsers out there,
41:38
Speaker 14: just let people have fun and get on with their
41:41
Speaker 14: lives and stop telling us what we can do and
41:44
Speaker 14: cannot do, and get out there and support those small
41:48
Speaker 14: businesses who back Australia and will back Australia.
41:51
Speaker 2: Day without naming anyone. When you sit on Senate estimates
41:58
Speaker 2: hearings and you know, high profile, well paid corporate giants
42:04
Speaker 2: turn up to answer your questions, are you sometimes shake
42:07
Speaker 2: your head and go how are these people actually running
42:10
Speaker 2: these companies? They've got no idea what the real world's
42:13
Speaker 2: like out there in Australia.
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Speaker 14: It is a bit of a m and us sometimes
42:19
Speaker 14: because these people get paid huge amounts of money, and
42:22
Speaker 14: they are the people who go around the dinner dinner
42:25
Speaker 14: party circuit in Melbourne and Sydney and they're all lovely
42:28
Speaker 14: people that go to the first night of the opera
42:30
Speaker 14: and you're good on them, but they just sometimes forget
42:34
Speaker 14: how the rest of us. And I put myself in
42:37
Speaker 14: that the rest of Australia lives. And there's a cost
42:40
Speaker 14: of living crisis out there at the moment, people worried
42:42
Speaker 14: about how they can pay their bills. And you've got
42:45
Speaker 14: these big wigs political and corporate who just don't get it.
42:51
Speaker 14: And Antony Albanezy just doesn't get it. Anyone who buys
42:55
Speaker 14: a four point three million dollar retirement home while he's saying,
43:00
Speaker 14: you know, vote for me, I'm going to be your
43:01
Speaker 14: Prime Minister for the next.
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Speaker 5: Term, just doesn't get it.
43:04
Speaker 14: Anyone who asks for upgrades like he did just doesn't
43:07
Speaker 14: get it. And I put the corporate big wigs with that,
43:09
Speaker 14: and it's it's just wrong. Look, why don't we just
43:13
Speaker 14: come together and just look at what this country has
43:15
Speaker 14: done and what we can do, especially if we throw
43:17
Speaker 14: the Labor Party out and put Peter Dutton in this
43:19
Speaker 14: Prime minister.
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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see where that goes. The polls are certainly
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Speaker 2: going in the right direction. Terry and James stay with us,
43:27
Speaker 2: will be back after a break. Welcome back to Steve
43:35
Speaker 2: Price with you. Terry and James have moved on. I'm
43:39
Speaker 2: sure they'll be back with Peter next week. Overnight the
43:42
Speaker 2: French government has descended into what you can only call
43:45
Speaker 2: it chaos. National Assembly backing a motion of no confidence
43:49
Speaker 2: against the government oust of the Prime Minister Michel Barnier,
43:53
Speaker 2: something that has not happened in sixty years now. This
43:57
Speaker 2: puts massive pressure on President Emmanuel Macron to employ special
44:03
Speaker 2: measures so that a technocratic government can actually continue to
44:07
Speaker 2: keep the country afloat, with the hope that then can
44:10
Speaker 2: find someone that both sides of politics can agree on
44:13
Speaker 2: to become the new prime minister. Joining me now, great
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Speaker 2: to catch up with our new correspondent, Australian's UK correspondent,
44:20
Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth. Great to see you, so nice to see you, Steve.
44:26
Speaker 2: I know it's France, but how did even the French
44:29
Speaker 2: get to this position? You can sort of understand it
44:32
Speaker 2: maybe in Italy, but the French, what.
44:34
Speaker 15: Happened, well, it's really serious. Chris obviously on the world stage.
44:40
Speaker 15: Germany and France are the biggest economies in the EU
44:44
Speaker 15: and now they've got this absolute disaster unfolding, and just
44:48
Speaker 15: days ahead of President elect US President elect Donald Trump
44:53
Speaker 15: coming over to France for the reopening of the Notre
44:56
Speaker 15: Dame Cathedral. Basically, the Prime Minister try to push through
45:01
Speaker 15: a budget without a vote and that caused this upheaval.
45:05
Speaker 15: It's caused his toppling and now there's calls for President
45:09
Speaker 15: Emmanuel Matcron to also go. He's addressing France this evening
45:16
Speaker 15: European time, so it's morning here. So this is an
45:19
Speaker 15: absolute disaster on the world stage, and the EU has
45:23
Speaker 15: to look strong and at the moment it's not looking
45:26
Speaker 15: like that at all, and that will cause tension, particularly
45:30
Speaker 15: with the US because as we know President elect Donald
45:33
Speaker 15: Trump is also very skeptical of the EU. So this
45:37
Speaker 15: is a very bad look to show that one of
45:40
Speaker 15: the strongest forces in the EU is very shaky at
45:45
Speaker 15: the moment.
45:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to think you'd have to Blastemcron out
45:50
Speaker 2: of that job. You'd be very difficult to get rid
45:52
Speaker 2: of him. You're in the UK now, and obviously things
45:56
Speaker 2: there we look from afar from Australia. Some of the
45:59
Speaker 2: things that happening places like the UK and the US.
46:02
Speaker 2: I've always been of the view that two three years
46:04
Speaker 2: down the track, they probably happen in our own country.
46:08
Speaker 2: Some of the climate insanity in that country is just extraordinary.
46:13
Speaker 2: Now petrol cars, let's talk about petrol cars. I'm a
46:16
Speaker 2: huge petrol car fan. I'm a petrol head. Has been
46:19
Speaker 2: reported the number of petrol cars on UK roads has
46:23
Speaker 2: reached its peak, where the expectation that numbers are going
46:27
Speaker 2: to fall dramatically in coming years with people going electric?
46:31
Speaker 2: Have you had a sense yet, and I know you've
46:33
Speaker 2: only been there a couple of weeks that there are
46:35
Speaker 2: a lot here in London? But are there a lot
46:37
Speaker 2: of electric cars around the joint?
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Speaker 15: There are, Chris, I mean outside where I'm living in
46:44
Speaker 15: central London, there's an actual space on the side of
46:48
Speaker 15: the road only for electric vehicles to be charged. There
46:52
Speaker 15: are a lot of electric vehicles.
46:54
Speaker 5: On the road.
46:54
Speaker 15: But remembering I'm here living in central London, you know
46:58
Speaker 15: you've got to go out beyond the Central London. There's
47:02
Speaker 15: a lot of people who cannot afford them, and there's
47:04
Speaker 15: also penalties for the companies if they if they sell
47:08
Speaker 15: beyond the amount of petrol cars that they're allowed to sell.
47:12
Speaker 15: So there's severe penalties of fifteen thousand pounds per car
47:17
Speaker 15: they sell over the threshold. Now they're trying to obviously
47:20
Speaker 15: phase them out eighty percent of cars I think the
47:24
Speaker 15: figure is eighty percent of cars sold here by twenty
47:27
Speaker 15: thirty will be electric.
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Speaker 5: That is the goal.
47:31
Speaker 15: But they need the infrastructure and we are seeing car
47:34
Speaker 15: manufacturers here really hurting, laying off staff because they can't,
47:40
Speaker 15: you know, create enough cars.
47:43
Speaker 6: For the demand.
47:44
Speaker 15: There's still a lot of people here, Chris, sorry, Steve,
47:47
Speaker 15: that want you know, the petrol vehicles.
47:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I think of a place like London,
47:55
Speaker 2: have been there plenty of times. I just wonder there's
47:57
Speaker 2: so many people living in apartments. Where do you charge
48:00
Speaker 2: udge them anyway?
48:02
Speaker 15: Well, that's right, that's exactly right, Steve. Look you know
48:05
Speaker 15: where I'm living, there's lots of apartment blocks. As you know,
48:09
Speaker 15: London's very congested, and so where do they put them
48:13
Speaker 15: a lot of people don't have cars here, so there's
48:16
Speaker 15: so many issues and I think the government has tried
48:18
Speaker 15: to enforce this too quickly. It's now having repercussions and
48:23
Speaker 15: whether or not they will reach that target by twenty thirty.
48:26
Speaker 15: Now looks as though that is, you know, quite unlikely.
48:30
Speaker 2: You kind of you can't imagine it would happen. So
48:33
Speaker 2: if you're great to catch up with you. Thank you
48:34
Speaker 2: very much for that. Thanks everybody. I'll be back tomorrow
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Speaker 2: night at six with the Price Program. The Bolt Report
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