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Murder In Moscow: Bethany Funke, Dylan Mortensen And The Text Messages · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. We've
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  Speaker 1: had a flurry of activity up in Moscow and there
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  Speaker 1: have been a lot of new documents that have been
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  Speaker 1: unsealed after Judge Hippler admonished both sides for not being
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  Speaker 1: as upfront with the public as they need to be.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're getting a look at some of the
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  Speaker 1: information that we've been waiting for for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: And that information has to do with the text messages
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  Speaker 1: that were being sent by the surviving roommates on the
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  Speaker 1: night that the murders occurred. And there's no doubt that
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions about what went down that
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  Speaker 1: night and why it took so long for the 911
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  Speaker 1: call to be placed. But like I said at the time,
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  Speaker 1: we have to wait for context. We don't have all
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  Speaker 1: of the details. And if you go off shooting from
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  Speaker 1: the hip, you end up looking like a fool. And
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  Speaker 1: that's definitely a lesson that I learned from the Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein investigation. Because there was a lot of stuff that
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  Speaker 1: would come out and you would think that it's true
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  Speaker 1: or that it's real. And then we'd get more context
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  Speaker 1: and it would put things into a different light. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm so big on having context. The more
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  Speaker 1: meat on the bone, the better. And like most of
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  Speaker 1: you out there listening to this podcast, I'm looking for
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  Speaker 1: a deeper understanding of what went on. And up until recently,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't really able to get a handle on that.
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  Speaker 1: There's just too much we didn't know. But now that
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  Speaker 1: we're getting some of this documentation, it starts to add
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  Speaker 1: some of that context that we were looking for previously.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to be spending quite some time up
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  Speaker 1: here in Moscow over the next few days, next few weeks,
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  Speaker 1: next few months, trying to see where all of these
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  Speaker 1: pieces now fit. And to start us on our journey,
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  Speaker 1: we have an article from Fox News and the headline,
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  Speaker 1: Idaho Court Releases Surviving Roommates Text Messages from Night of
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  Speaker 1: the Student Murders. This article was authored by Michael Ruiz.
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  Speaker 1: Text messages between two surviving roommates from the home in Moscow, Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: where four university students were killed in a home invasion
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  Speaker 1: stabbing attack, have been revealed publicly for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in a newly unsealed court filing. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: to go through when it comes to these new court documents,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to all of it. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously when I say all of it, I mean the
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  Speaker 1: documents that are consequential, the documents that we need to
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  Speaker 1: get added to the catalog, such as memorandums, opinions, orders,
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. There's going to be smaller motions that
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to add because it's just not worth
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  Speaker 1: the time. But all of these bigger motions, orders, and
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  Speaker 1: all of the things that are going to shake and
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  Speaker 1: move the proceedings moving forward, we're going to get all
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff definitely added to the catalog. The roommates
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  Speaker 1: identified in court documents only as DM and BF appear
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  Speaker 1: to have been awake and discussing the possibility of a
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  Speaker 1: masked trespasser approximately five minutes after the attack. And there's
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  Speaker 1: people out there that are still talking like these girls
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  Speaker 1: were involved. There are people out there that are so
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  Speaker 1: far over their skis and so far deep into the
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  Speaker 1: weeds when it comes to stupidity that they can't help themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Anything to try and separate themselves from the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the crowd, right? Anything to be different. Oh, I have
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  Speaker 1: a theory. And the crazy part is there's always people
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  Speaker 1: out there that are willing to buy into whatever kind
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  Speaker 1: of dumbass theory these morons come up with. And we
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  Speaker 1: all know how the process goes. Once the theory gets
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  Speaker 1: blown out of the water, they just move the goalposts.
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  Speaker 1: But eventually, you run out of field, and there's nowhere
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  Speaker 1: left to move those goalposts. The next move will be, well,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get a fair trial. They love that one. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get a fair trial. Well, guess what? We've
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  Speaker 1: watched the whole entire proceeding. We've followed along in the
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  Speaker 1: court documents. So save the whole woe is me bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: This man is not getting railroaded. This man is getting
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  Speaker 1: a fair trial, and he's getting a fair shake. Diem
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  Speaker 1: has previously been identified as the only eyewitness who saw
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  Speaker 1: the intruder, a masked man with bushy eyebrows, in the
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  Speaker 1: six-bedroom house on King Road. Based on her statements to
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  Speaker 1: police and audio from the security camera next door, the
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  Speaker 1: attacker is believed to have left the house shortly after 4.17 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: on November 13, 2022. The attack left four people dead,
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  Speaker 1: Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonsalves, Zanna Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. The
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  Speaker 1: filing reveals text messages that DM and BF exchanged between
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  Speaker 1: 422 and 424, as well as text DM sent to
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  Speaker 1: some of the victims before dawn and again around 1020 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Prior to the text, DM tried to call BF and
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  Speaker 1: three of the victims. None of her calls were answered.
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  Speaker 1: No one is answering. DM, who is Dylan Mortensen, wrote
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  Speaker 1: to BF, which is Bethany Funk. According to the filing,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really confused right now. And look, nobody has come
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  Speaker 1: out and said this, and this is purely my speculation,
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  Speaker 1: but I think these girls were a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: hammered that night than we've been told. And that would
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  Speaker 1: lead to the delay. That would answer all the questions
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  Speaker 1: about why 911 wasn't called earlier. And it really just
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  Speaker 1: fits in with the whole narrative that's been built. So
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  Speaker 1: that's my guess. I don't know if that's real or not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and tell you, oh,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, that's what's going on. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see the toxicology reports. But I did go to college.
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  Speaker 1: And I'd be a downright liar if I told you
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  Speaker 1: there weren't some Friday nights that I didn't remember. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, nothing to this level. I was never witness
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  Speaker 1: to some kind of crazy crime or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: But there's nights where I woke up the next day
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  Speaker 1: and I really had no idea what happened the night before.
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  Speaker 1: So I totally wouldn't be shocked if later on down
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  Speaker 1: the road we hear that, you know, there was other
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  Speaker 1: things going on here on Friday night. And maybe, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some hallucinogenics. Mushrooms or... Maybe some molly or something. Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: But in my opinion, that's way more likely than these
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  Speaker 1: girls being involved in these murders. That's just straight up crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And here's a little bit of the exchange from Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Mortensen to Bethany Funk. DM to BF. No one is answering.
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  Speaker 1: DM to BF. I'm really confused right now. DM to Gonsalves. Kaylee?
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  Speaker 1: DM to Gonsalves. What's going on? BF to DM. Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck? BF to DM. Zanna was wearing all black.
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  Speaker 1: DM to BF, I'm freaking out right now. DM to BF, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's like ski mask almost. BF to DM, STFU. BF
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  Speaker 1: to DM, actually. DM to BF, like he had something
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  Speaker 1: over his head and little over his mouth. DM to BF, BF,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, I'm so freaked out. And just to
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  Speaker 1: interrupt real quick, when this was all first happening, we
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  Speaker 1: were wondering if he had a ski mask on or
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  Speaker 1: if he just wore a mask over his face. So
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  Speaker 1: it looks like we were right when we said he
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  Speaker 1: was rocking a ski mask. BF to DM. I'm not kidding.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so freaked out. BF to DM. So am I.
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  Speaker 1: DM to BF. My phone is going to die. Fuck.
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  Speaker 1: BF to DM. Come to my room. BF to DM. Run.
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  Speaker 1: BF to DM. Down here. Kaylee, DM wrote in another text.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? DM also appeared to reference the intruder
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  Speaker 1: she later told police she encountered when peering out of
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  Speaker 1: her bedroom door. She referenced something like a ski mask almost.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there it is. I mean, we were wondering
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  Speaker 1: for a minute what he was wearing, right? Like I
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  Speaker 1: said a second ago. And that was certainly a point
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  Speaker 1: of conversation. Like he had something over his head and
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  Speaker 1: a little over his mouth. BF urged her to run
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  Speaker 1: downstairs according to the court filings released this week. DM
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  Speaker 1: spent the night in BF's room and an unnamed person
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  Speaker 1: called 911 from BF's phone around noon the next day. Look,
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  Speaker 1: That is very odd. There is no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: No getting around it. And we still don't have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the answers. We don't know why the phone call wasn't made.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know why it took so long for somebody
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  Speaker 1: to call the cops. But I'm sure that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to get that context. But here's the thing that we
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  Speaker 1: have to remember. The investigators aren't working on our timeline.
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  Speaker 1: They're working on their own. So when they see fit
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  Speaker 1: to release that information, that's when we're going to get it.
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  Speaker 1: As of 10.23 a.m., DM texted both Mogan and Gonsalves,
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  Speaker 1: please answer. She wrote, are you up? She then called
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  Speaker 1: her father at around 11.40 a.m. Timeline of November 13th, 2022,
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  Speaker 1: 4 a.m. Suspect arrives at the house between 4 and 4.17,
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  Speaker 1: time of murders, 4.19. Roommate calls three victims, no one answers. 4.22
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  Speaker 1: to 4.24, surviving roommates text each other from inside the house. 427,
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  Speaker 1: roommate calls victims again, no answer. 432, roommate texts Gonsalves,
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  Speaker 1: please answer. 1023, surviving roommate texts victims, no one answers. 1139,
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  Speaker 1: roommate calls her father. 12pm, 911 call placed from roommate's phone.
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  Speaker 1: Prosecutors are asking the court to allow them to introduce
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  Speaker 1: the texts as evidence. Well, yeah, probably a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: At the very least, it shows what was going on
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Now, it doesn't point to Brian Kohlberger specifically,
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  Speaker 1: but remember, we're not looking at just one piece of
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  Speaker 1: evidence here. We're looking at the totality of everything that's
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  Speaker 1: been collected. And when you look at the totality of
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  Speaker 1: everything that's been collected, well, you already know where I sit.
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  Speaker 1: Prosecutors allege that police found a K-Bar knife sheath under
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  Speaker 1: Mogan's body that had DNA on it that led them
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  Speaker 1: to the suspect, Brian Kohlberger, a 30-year-old former PhD student
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  Speaker 1: who was studying criminology. at the nearby Washington State University
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  Speaker 1: at the time of the crime. Separately, the court also
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  Speaker 1: released a transcript of a frantic 911 call that reveals
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  Speaker 1: multiple callers spoke with the dispatcher trying to explain they
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  Speaker 1: had found Kernoodle unresponsive and someone had seen an intruder
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  Speaker 1: the night before. Now that's crazy. Look, there is zero
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  Speaker 1: doubt that people are right to have questions about what
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  Speaker 1: went down. Because we don't have any good answer. We're
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  Speaker 1: talking about a large amount of time that passed between
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  Speaker 1: the time that these girls say that they saw an
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  Speaker 1: intruder and the time that the police were called. So
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  Speaker 1: I understand that everybody wants answers to that and we
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  Speaker 1: all want clarity. But unfortunately, there's no clarity to give yet.
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  Speaker 1: Additional filings made public Thursday evening include a list of
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  Speaker 1: records that prosecutors plan to introduce as evidence and another
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  Speaker 1: defense motion seeking to have the death penalty removed as
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  Speaker 1: a potential sentence if there is a conviction. This time
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  Speaker 1: arguing that prosecutors have failed to meet discovery deadlines. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not autism, it's something else, right? Always something else.
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  Speaker 1: Loopholes and technicalities abound. Striking the death penalty is the
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  Speaker 1: only remedy that begins to adequately address the prejudice to Mr. Kohlberger,
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney Ann Taylor wrote. Even with a hot documents
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  Speaker 1: list and detailed expert disclosures, the minimum necessary for this
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  Speaker 1: case to proceed to trial, counsel is at a massive
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  Speaker 1: disadvantage given the limited resources as compared to the state
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that only five months remain before trial.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine all these years and you're still complaining you don't
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  Speaker 1: have enough time? I'm sorry, but the time has come.
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  Speaker 1: And if Brian Kohlberger can't get a proper defense now,
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  Speaker 1: he's never going to have one. So please miss me
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  Speaker 1: with that nonsense. The prosecution's evidence ranges from Kohlberger's banking
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  Speaker 1: and shopping records to surveillance video of the night of
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  Speaker 1: the crime. Prosecutors plan to introduce National Weather Service reports
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  Speaker 1: from November 12th and November 13th, 2022, which could potentially
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  Speaker 1: challenge Kohlberger's alibi about driving around looking at the moon
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  Speaker 1: and stars. During the time of the crime. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because people believe that, huh? No, it wasn't me. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't kill those kids. I was out looking at the stars.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a modern day Galileo, you didn't know? The only
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  Speaker 1: problem for Brian Kohlberger might be. There might not have
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  Speaker 1: been any stars in the sky that night. So I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how he plans to get around that one. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I was out there looking for stars. Doesn't mean I
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  Speaker 1: was going to find them. You know, yada, yada, yada.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably what we're going to hear from him. But
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  Speaker 1: one thing I'm certainly sure of. We haven't seen the
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  Speaker 1: end of the loopholes and technicality strategy by Brian Kohlberger.
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  Speaker 1: So like I said in the opening, expect a lot
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  Speaker 1: of content coming your way over the next few days
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  Speaker 1: related to the new developments up here in Moscow. Because
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  Speaker 1: we went from a Snell's pace to now into overdrive.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to have to make sure that we're
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  Speaker 1: on top of it and we're getting all of this
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  Speaker 1: information documented and cataloged. And that's exactly what the plan is.
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  Speaker 1: But until then, that's going to do it for this one.
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