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Ep 270 – Taking a Look Back at WWE Unforgiven 1999 · My Third Place Pod

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  Welcome to my third place. This is a podcast equivalent of
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  staying up a little too late with the TV on your favorite
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  game loaded, and know where you need to be.
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  Here we talk nostalgia, fandom, games and pop culture, 90s and
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  early 2000 memories, comics, Marvel rivals, Pokémon, and the
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  things that shaped us then and still stick with us now.
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  It's about hanging out, feeling at home, and having
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  So grab a seat, settle in, and stay a while.
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  This is my third place podcast. Tonight is a special because
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  wrestling just time travel. Peacock just shut the bolt, then
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  the WE Network library package bag, and now the entire WE
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  catalog lives on Netflix, which means the whole generation is
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  about to discover or rediscover what wrestling felt like before
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  algorithm, before thumbnails, before content drops.
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  So we're going. We're doing what MPP does best.
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  We're going back back in time. We're back to September 26th,
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  1999, back to the Charlotte Calcium in Charlotte, NC, back
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  to WWFWWF. That's how back we're going back
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  to WWF Unforgiven 1999. So not just another
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  pay-per-view, but a moment sitting right on the edge of
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  something bigger. This was the first Forgiven, not
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  branded as in Your House, the end of an era that officially
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  wrapped earlier that year. The Attitude Era is in full
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  swing. The roll the rules are looser,
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  the character's louder, the crowd's hotter, and the lines
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  between hero and villain already blurred beyond repair.
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  WWF was on fire, but make no mistake, does tell you was still
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  very much in the fight. Monday nights were at war
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  Channel flipping was a reflex. Stone Cold shirts were
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  everywhere. What?
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  All right. No, not, no, not yet, not yet,
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  not yet. We're not there yet.
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  We're not, we're not that. We're not at that stone cold
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  yet. Goldberg can't echoed across
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  living rooms, not mine. And every week felt like
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  something could change the business Outside the ring, the
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  world was holding its breath. Why 2K paranoia, burned CDs,
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  labels in Sharpie, TRL countdowns, dial up tones
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  screaming through the bedrooms, the Millennium clock ticking
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  closer with no one quite sure, with the year 2000, with about
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  break or reboot, an Unforgiven 99.
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  It lives right there in that moment.
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  Messy, chaotic, overbooked, electric.
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  The kind of show that only exists when wrestling is
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  culture, not just programming. Hello everybody, everybody
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  joining us. Thank you for stopping in.
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  Appreciate that. I guess tonight we're cracking
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  it open, match by match, mum by moment, with fresh eyes and 1999
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  brains fully activated. I'm not doing this alone.
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  Joining me tonight, bringing Encyclopedia level wrestling
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  memory, locker room instincts and I remember exactly where I
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  was when this happened. Energy Menace welcome in.
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  Hi everyone. Back hey, the human tape trader,
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  the pay-per-view historian, the voice that knows when a chair
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  shot meant something. And trust us, this is just a
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  review. It's a rewind, a reminder and
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  maybe a warning of what wrestling was before the new
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  Millennium hit. All right, let's leave the
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  boots, kill the light, hit the pyro.
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  Let's go back to Unforgiven 1999.
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  But before we do that, Dennis, how are you?
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  I'm. Doing good, I'm doing good.
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  How are you doing? Doing good, doing good.
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  How was your week? How was your week?
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  You know, it's, it's been OK. Yeah.
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  It's been OK, still dealing with extra people at work one more
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  week after this one so they leave a week from Monday so I
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  don't think they'll ever listen to.
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  This podcast that's. Right.
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  I I don't think they'll ever listen to the.
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  Podcast I'm sure the extra people at home, are they still
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  drinking? Yes, the.
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  Stuff that you bought, yes. Well, no, all of that's.
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  Gone. All of that's gone.
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  So no, my friend, she buys stuff here for her mom.
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  So she goes to the commissary and buys, you know, groceries
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  for her mom. I give her a list of the stuff
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  that we're out of her low on and she buys it and it's like OK
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  cool, y'all got y'all obviously have some kind of money because
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  the grandson and his wife, they get teriyaki every day and I
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  know that's not cheap. Teriyaki's not.
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  Cheap. No.
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  I mean, you can because they go at lunchtime.
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  You can get like a lunch special, but still, yeah, that's
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  still going to add up, you know, and you've been doing it for,
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  you know, five days a week or. You know we're going on.
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  Week 3 so. Yeah.
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  And then they eat some of it and then leave it in the
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  refrigerator. Right, right, right.
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  So then it just sits there and then it gets thrown away.
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  So I'm like, OK, but you know, they have, they use a lot of
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  water. Even though she has filtered
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  water that comes out of the refrigerator, they still buy
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  bottles. Well, they buy, they buy
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  purified water, whereas my friend buys her mom's spring
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  water in small little bottles. They use those for their baby.
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  And I'm like, it's for the baby. But you know, you can use the
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  filtered water that comes out of the refrigerator because they
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  don't measure it out. They put it in the microwave.
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  They put enough for the baby's bottle and then dump the rest.
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  So I'm like, do that with filtered water, not bought
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  water. Oh my.
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  God, so yeah, that's what I'm dealing with.
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  And then, you know, they leave their dishes in the the.
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  Sink. So I have to, you know, put them
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  in the dishwasher. OK, but.
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  You know, and then of course I'm mopping floors and they just
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  walk right on the floor while it's still damp.
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  So I'm like, Oh well. Oh well.
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  One more week after this week, you know, we're counting down.
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  We're counting down 1/5. So we're talking about what, 8
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  days? 8 more days.
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  Big shout out to Greg who just joined the live for a little
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  bit. Have a great episode tonight,
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  brother. All right, you 2 happy.
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  Birthday. Bye, Greg.
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  Today's his birthday. He's not with us tonight.
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  He is on the personal trip to Texas.
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  So you know, big shout out to you brother.
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  You know all the all the love from us as well.
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  From. Everybody in the chat as well.
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  All right, my week's been OK. I'm like thinking about other
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  doing. I've just been my mind's been
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  like, you know, trying to like last year, I didn't do any
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  episodes in January until the end of the year, the end of the
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  January end of the. Month.
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  Because our predictions episode for Rumble, I felt like this
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  year I needed to like, you know what?
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  Let me do more episodes. So after the episode I did with
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  Liana, says Tubman says hi. Hi.
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  So after I did the episode with Greg, I figured, all right, I'm
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  going to do more episodes in the coming weeks.
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  Let me start thinking about them.
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  Let me start brainstorming them. One of them was I wanted to do
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  was, you know, help with podcasting other people like the
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  month of January, usually that that.
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  So I was thinking about it and but nothing came out of it the
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  entire week. And the other one was the Marvel
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  Rivals episode season 6, because it was coming out this past
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  weekend. It came out Deadpool's here.
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  And again, like we couldn't like come up with a schedule on that.
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  So we're going to leave it for another day.
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  That's still happening. Another one was I thought of
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  doing an episode where we were thinking about the questions
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  that I asked normally from Pod X.
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  This one was growing up. What was your third place?
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  Where did you spend most of your time?
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  A lot of people answered and, and I kind of wanted to do like
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  an episode series about that, like where I spend most of my
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  days. So I was thinking of doing that.
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  And then I'm thinking back to all the things that we've been
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  doing lately, you know, like projects.
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  We're talking about life, we're talking about this stuff.
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  So let me update my everything. So I go in there and the
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  settings on where I keep my stuff podcast, and it's all
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  like, what categories on the category is always been on TV
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  and entertainment or wrestling at first, you know, And then I
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  change the TV. I'm like, it's not about we're
• 10:17
  not doing TV, but rarely doing TV and stuff.
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  Yeah. Should I categorize my podcast
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  as, you know, and what category should it be under?
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  And I just kept thinking I was like, what fits the most?
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  The show is about community, nostalgia, identity and shared
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  experiences, pop culture and the lens, not the point.
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  I'm creating a place for people to belong.
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  It's not a news or a review show.
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  It's more like we're listening or we're watching our stuff, you
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  know, we're, we're watching stuff unfold.
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  As well. It's like a hang out, a late
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  night conversation podcast live even when we talk games, comics
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  or TV. Josh, how you doing?
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  Welcome in we. Have.
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  We have games, fandom, collectibles, and nerd culture.
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  Relaxed unwind energy. This is fun, not homework.
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  So you know what what's going on, but what's going on?
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  So what should we categorize the podcast as?
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  So I looked it up. It's now in the society and
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  culture category on all steering platforms.
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  Like we have a lot of things there.
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  Let me look it up. Society and culture.
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  It has subcult, sub, sub category, documentary, personal
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  journals, philosophy, place and travel relationship.
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  That's what we do, that's what we do, you know, And then like,
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  if it doesn't work out, we'll put in leisure, which is
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  animation of manga, automotive, aviation, craft, games, hobbies,
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  home and garden and video games. It's the same thing.
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  So we're more, you know, for the first one, it'd be like society
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  and culture and then leisure, like right after.
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  And then I changed the description of the podcast and
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  now like if anybody asked where to ask what is your pockets
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  about? Well, my third place, a hangout
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  style podcast built around nostalgia, fandom and community.
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  We talked 90s and early 2000's pop culture, games, comics,
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  marble, rivals, Pokémon, and the moments that shaped us then and
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  now. No pressure, no shouting, no hot
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  If you like a familiar place you can drop into and stay a while.
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  What's up homies? How you doing, Josh?
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  Good to meet. Sounds good to me too.
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  Danielle, Lauren, how you doing? Marcella, welcome in.
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  So yeah, it feels, it feels good to have that.
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  You know, it feels like good change, basically like and all
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  that. So that's it.
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  Yeah, basically it. For those of you that came in,
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  we're talking unforgiving ethnic 9.
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  We're going back in time. Liana says love it.
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  Thank you, appreciate that. So we're going back in time to
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  Unforgiven 1999. It's all on Netflix.
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  First question, Dominus, why did you choose this one?
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  So. The reason behind it?
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  So I chose it because I don't remember too much about it.
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  OK. I was, yeah.
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  I didn't look at the date, you know, other than the year,
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  right. So I was like, I did not
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  remember. I'm like this, yeah.
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  This pay-per-view doesn't sound familiar.
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  Even when I was going through like the matches, you know, I
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  saw the matches and I was like, this doesn't seem familiar at
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  all. And then I was talking to you a
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  little bit about it. And I'm like, maybe it was when
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  I was gone, you know, because after I graduated high school, I
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  went down to live with my sister for a little bit because she had
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  a baby a month after I graduated from high school.
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  And she asked me, since I didn't have any plans after high
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  school, if I would be her nanny. So I said sure, you know, I
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  didn't have anything else to do, you know, So I mean, I could
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  have went to to college, but I was just like, you know what,
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  this seems like something fun. I love babies and this is my
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  first nephew. So why not, you know, why not
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  spend as much time as I can with him?
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  So then when I was talking to you about it, I was like, oh,
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  maybe it was then. But then watching it today and
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  the date, I was like, no, I was in Washington.
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  But then my sister was like, our mom had surgery in September
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  because she had ovarian cancer. And so she was in recovery.
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  So we weren't going to my grandparents because we couldn't
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  take our mom with us. And that's the whole, I mean,
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  it's her parents. So and we did.
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  We would always go to see them every Sunday.
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  And then of course, if it was pay-per-view, my grandma, my
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  grandparents got all of them. So I was like, no, that's why I
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  don't remember this, you know, So I just wanted to just get
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  your take on it and what you thought about it.
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  And, you know, so I watched it and it was short, but it wasn't
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  because it's, it was like 2 1/2 hours, but there were nine
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  matches. So I'm like, that would be a 2
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  day now, you know, that would be a 7:00 AM today, you know?
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  Yeah. So I'm like, wow, this is crazy.
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  You know, I look forward to hearing everything you think
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  about it. OK, so I didn't remember any of
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  any of this at all. No.
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  I don't remember anything. I looked at the car and I was
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  like, I don't remember this at all.
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  And then like towards the bottom, here it is.
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  Boss Man versus Al Snow in a dog Kettle match.
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  Whatever. That yeah, yeah.
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  That was the only part about it because that was the worst match
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  ever on the show. Yeah.
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  And every I agree talking. About it and all this stuff.
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  Where was I in 1999? I had just graduated high
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  school. There's also the year that Owen
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  Hart passes away. It may.
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  So it was, it was rough for some for some time there because I
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  was kept looking at it like I wonder what happened in WCW at
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  the time. And we had another horrible main
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  event over there too at Fall Brawl.
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  Stingrays, Hogan, Goldberg was DEP, if I remember correctly,
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  that didn't even get the air. Or was it Halloween Havoc?
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  I don't remember. That's what I mean.
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  I was like, I don't remember any of this stuff.
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  I can remember is we moved. My mom and us, all of us, we
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  moved. So around August, I would say
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  August, we moved to a whole community based apartment where
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  in order to live there you have to have some community service
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  involved as well. So I'm like 4850 hours of it.
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  Yeah, really. Yeah, so it was just that from
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  that moment on, like, oh crap, I'm going to be like a fucking
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  leader to these kids, aren't I? I yeah.
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  And here I go, 1718 years old me just like being a leader to
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  everybody, to all the kids. I was like, all right, here's
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  what we're going to do next. Here's what we're going to do
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  next. It's like you.
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  How many hours of community service have you done?
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  Can I get free rent? So basically no more I think I
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  don't I didn't have there was a gap between August, September.
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  October. November, December.
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  When did Kurt Angle debut? Because I remember watching that
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  one. No, no, no.
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  It was in January, around January.
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  February around. There Royal Rumble time I like I
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  said, I graduated high school. All my friends are like no
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  longer existence. We're no longer talking to each
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  other about wrestling. I have to go and travel over
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  there from now on and we didn't. And Shenrod was like one of
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  those guys where like everything that I would ever watch came
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  from him because he would have a video tape of it.
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  Yeah. So I didn't have him anymore, so
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  I had to rely on other people in the community, in the apartment.
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  Hey, OK. You watch wrestling.
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  Can I come to your house? Can we be friends, you know?
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  Yeah. All right, cool.
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  So like every other time, it'd be like, what happened?
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  I'm forgiven. What happened here?
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  What happened here? And like I said, this was a
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  horrible year. Big Show's father passed away,
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  and he did a whole skit about it where he was at the cemetery.
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  And for sure, you know, like well hold.
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  On. For those of us growing up
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  watching Big Show the Giant in those W when they made a gimmick
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  about his dad was under the Giant and you as a, you know,
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  wrestling fan, you tend to believe this stuff.
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  And then later on when the thing happens in 99 and all this stuff
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  and I'm like, wait, I saw his dad passed already.
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  I saw his dad was Andre. We all believed it.
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  We all. So big shows dad passes away and
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  they do the whole cemetery act and then big boss man shows up
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  and like hijacks the freaking coffin and dry drags out into
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  the freaking mud and here comes big show dragging it like also
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  and I'm like This is why I stopped watching.
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  This is horrible. At the end of the year we get
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  the McMahon, Hemsley era, Triple H, Mary, Stephanie at around
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  November, December, they have the big fallout with Vince
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  McMahon. At the end of the year I had
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  judgement day. It was a judgement day.
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  I don't know it was December pay-per-view, but yeah, this is
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  that's what I remember most about 99, except for the summer,
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  September and October, and then that's it.
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  So like coming back to this and watching it now and then looking
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  at all the crowd and all the signs up there and I'm like,
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  wow, this is awesome. I haven't seen it like this in a
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  while. You know, there's there's some
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  signs that are there that at the beginning of the show about
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  Jericho Y2G and I'm like, yeah, it just wouldn't fly anymore.
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  I no. Science down.
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  OK, Yeah, yeah, this is yeah, this is horrible.
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  This is bad. And then it was the Attitude
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  Era. It was a different era.
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  It was this is the wild, Wild West, basically.
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  Yeah. This is the wild stuff that's
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  ever happened. And like when someone says like,
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  hey, I wish the attitude era comes back, could come back and
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  everything was like, you mean all the signs that said, you
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  know, racist remarks and. Homophobic.
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  Slurs and all that stuff, all that other crazy shit that
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  happened back then, yeah. Yeah, no.
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  I don't think you need that back.
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  No, it all get cancelled. And even the gimmicks at here in
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  the first match, even the gimmicks, I'm like.
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  I know that. He couldn't say that now, no.
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  He can't say that now, so it's going to be a different type of
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  situation. If you haven't seen it, go watch
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  Unforgiven 99. Give us your take about it, and
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  here's ours at the moment. So the show starts off with Val
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  Venus versus Steve Blackman. Like you said, it was a short,
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  but it was long. So this match lasted 6 minutes
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  and 33 seconds. Yeah, Steve Blackman is a
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  martial arts guy and Val Venus is a porn star.
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  Yeah. Good luck with that.
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  Yeah, you heard right. It's a porn star.
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  He works. That's a porn porn guy, The big
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  valve. It's like, if I remember
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  correctly, like he had that Rick Rude gimmick, but you know, like
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  going up a notch like. Rick Yeah.
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  Like what's going on, ladies, look at this body.
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  No, Valveen is like, what's going on lady, look at his body.
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  Pay me. Yeah, I know.
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  Even his intro to, you know, before the match started, what
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  he said, I was like, that wouldn't find me.
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  They'd be like me. Yeah.
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  Pretty much also this. Every match on this show there's
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  a new referee. The referees were on strike.
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  I don't know why. That's what I wanted.
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  That was one of the questions I wanted to ask you, if you
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  remember why they had a referee strike.
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  So from my understanding, Triple H at this time is going crazy.
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  He. He's going nuts.
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  He just basically left the axe. He's hanging out with China
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  still. At the end of the year he
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  married Stephanie. We don't see China anymore.
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  That whole relationship. Oh shit, you know real life
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  happens. Y'all know where that came from?
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  So he's going crazy. He's going all the stuff.
• 24:48
  He's the game now. He, you know, just basically
• 24:53
  y'all played him for too much. So now he's fucking fighting
• 24:56
  everybody, he's punching the referees, he's doing this to
• 24:59
  everybody. Yeah And even Stone Cold, just
• 25:01
  hitting the referees and stuff. So they're like we're going on
• 25:04
  strike. It's bullshit, you know, pay us
• 25:06
  more. We don't have, we don't have to
• 25:08
  deal with this or pay us more, right.
• 25:09
  Only one referee stayed behind. That was Jimmy Corderas.
• 25:13
  Yeah, the rest was scabs, Brooklyn Brawler and the other
• 25:20
  one was Tom Pritchard head scab. Right.
• 25:26
  Well, they said that Corderas started out outside.
• 25:31
  Yeah. He did he.
• 25:32
  Came, you know, he came in and then he came in.
• 25:35
  So they're like, oh, yeah. So they're like, Oh well,
• 25:39
  something happened. So.
• 25:43
  So as the event began, the first match took place between Val
• 25:45
  Venus the Black Man. The Brooklyn Brawler refereed
• 25:47
  the match. Venus stole black men's bag of
• 25:49
  weapons and brought it to the ring.
• 25:51
  Black men looked to regain his weapon, so he attacked Venus in
• 25:54
  the corner. Black man dominated most of the
• 25:56
  match and attacked. I'm just going to call him Val.
• 26:01
  His name is Sean Morley. I'm not going to call him this.
• 26:05
  Just say Val. Just say that.
• 26:07
  And attacked Val outside the ring.
• 26:09
  Black man rammed Black men rammed Val's back with the ring
• 26:16
  punch that returned. I know I was like.
• 26:20
  After seriously limps, Val hit Black Man with a Russian leg
• 26:24
  suite. Black Man punched Val and tried
• 26:26
  to whip Val. I can't do this but with Whip
• 26:30
  his head. Black Man hit a running
• 26:32
  crossbody on Val for a near fall.
• 26:35
  Val ran through the ropes but received a spine Buster from
• 26:38
  Black Man. Black Man tried to whip Val into
• 26:41
  the corner, but Valerie Burst didn't hit a corner close line.
• 26:46
  Val hit Black Man with a money shot for the victory.
• 26:49
  After the match, Val Venus tried to hit Black Man with a Black
• 26:51
  Man's own Candlestick, but Black reverse and knocked out Venus by
• 26:54
  hitting him with the Candlestick to the head to.
• 26:57
  The. Head also.
• 26:59
  Going back. To these all these matches,
• 27:02
  headshots, headshots and now looking back at it and knowing
• 27:07
  everything about it is like damn CTE.
• 27:10
  Yeah. Well, see, when I when I first
• 27:13
  saw him do it, I was like, it looked like he hit his, you
• 27:17
  know, his shoulder instead of his head.
• 27:21
  And then when they replayed it, you see it, you know, hits his
• 27:25
  head and then they show it from the front.
• 27:28
  So to meet from the front, because it was so quick, it
• 27:32
  looked like it hit his shoulder, not the top of his head.
• 27:35
  And then as you look from behind, you see it hits his head
• 27:41
  and like goes, Oh, my goodness gracious.
• 27:45
  And the fact that like he knocked him out, I'm like, he's
• 27:51
  he knows what he's doing because, you know, he's that's
• 27:55
  part of his martial arts training.
• 27:57
  So I'm like, I don't think that he should have hit him that hard
• 28:01
  or he's supposed to, you know, But thank you for the heart of
• 28:03
  me. Appreciate it.
• 28:06
  Hi. Lauren, how are you doing?
• 28:10
  What do you think it was match? You know, I thought it, you
• 28:15
  know, I thought it was really good.
• 28:16
  I thought it was a really good match short.
• 28:21
  It was it. But then I'm like, you know what
• 28:24
  it it got to, you know, it started off the pay-per-view
• 28:29
  like great, you know, let's keep that energy going for.
• 28:34
  Real. Where are they now?
• 28:37
  I don't know what Steve Blackman's doing these days.
• 28:40
  Yeah, he's still like that. That would be one person to
• 28:45
  like, find out what they're doing these days.
• 28:47
  You know, like because he was a great wrestler.
• 28:50
  Val Venus. Sean Morley on the other hand,
• 28:55
  Douchebag over there he was. He was edges brother-in-law.
• 29:06
  Really. Sister at one time and yeah that
• 29:12
  was his first wife, Ed's first wife, OK.
• 29:15
  Second wife was like the one month one year relationship
• 29:19
  before Lita thing happened and then the third wife is best
• 29:23
  Phoenix. But so he married Lita.
• 29:26
  No. Oh no, that was just in between
• 29:30
  wives. Yeah.
• 29:32
  OK. Yeah, and now Sean Morley is
• 29:36
  just like a douchebag, far right?
• 29:42
  And his name is Sean Morley because he can't use the
• 29:46
  Valvina's name anymore because somebody bought it just to spite
• 29:50
  him. And this is.
• 29:52
  In 2023, there's something around there around 2022 to 20.
• 29:56
  23. Where his name wasn't able to
• 29:59
  use it wasn't copyright anymore, so somebody online bought it.
• 30:02
  It's not like you can no longer use this name, Sean Morley.
• 30:06
  Like no, like every time you try to use this name you pay us.
• 30:11
  OK. So it was like, you know, you're
• 30:14
  such a shitty person. At the same time, give us money.
• 30:18
  It was fun at the time when that happened.
• 30:20
  Yeah. Welcome and everybody hope
• 30:23
  you're having a great night. Next match D Lo Brown defeated
• 30:28
  Mark Henry for the European Championship match last 9
• 30:32
  minutes and 11 seconds. Tom Pritchard referee to match
• 30:35
  Henry refused to defend the titles.
• 30:37
  He was slapped by Lenny Garcia in a pre match interview and he
• 30:41
  said he had he suffered a brain aurysm.
• 30:44
  I know. It's like, Oh my gosh.
• 30:48
  Oh, and they are like a brain aurysm.
• 30:54
  You mean a hen Aurysm? At the time, this was when Mark
• 31:01
  Henry was using the sexual chocolate gimmick.
• 31:07
  I don't know if this is before or after.
• 31:09
  I think this is after the whole Mei Young thing, The hand.
• 31:15
  I don't know. That's what I mean.
• 31:16
  It's like it's been a. While.
• 31:18
  Dilo Brown will always be the best European champion in my
• 31:22
  mind. I think I saw dude draws
• 31:30
  fighting somebody backstage. So this is way before Dino Brown
• 31:35
  and Draws. And the whole accident thing is
• 31:37
  why Dino Brown doesn't wrestle anymore because he's scared that
• 31:40
  he might hurt somebody again. So what else happened?
• 31:47
  Yeah, it it was they were best friends up until then.
• 31:50
  And then like this happened, D Lo wins the European
• 31:57
  Championship and with a sit up powerbomb featuring followed by
• 32:02
  lowdown and with your BFP champion Hell yeah.
• 32:08
  Backstage they beat up Chaz and they hold they mentioned the
• 32:13
  whole thing that he the reason to beat up Chaz because he was
• 32:16
  he's abusing his wife or girlfriend.
• 32:20
  Right, right, and. I'm like, was that real?
• 32:22
  Was that really necessary to say?
• 32:25
  And a bunch of guys beat him up and they're like, and it's like
• 32:32
  he did it in real life, but they use it as a storyline.
• 32:35
  And then? And then there was another time
• 32:37
  when Hardcore Holly just whooped his.
• 32:42
  Ass Wow. Like beat him down and
• 32:44
  everything. Like we don't do that around
• 32:46
  here. Yeah.
• 32:49
  Two years later, Stone Cold hitting his wife Deborah, and
• 32:55
  they're like, oh, this is from. It was like, no, weren't you
• 32:58
  guys doing this stuff to Chad? And everything.
• 33:01
  You don't want to touch Stone Cold because y'all scared, yeah.
• 33:07
  Next match was Jeff Jarrett with Miss Kitty defeating China by DQ
• 33:11
  for in Crown championship. 11 minutes and 52 seconds.
• 33:14
  What's your take on China? I was hoping this was the one
• 33:18
  where she actually won the the title, but I was like, but the
• 33:23
  fact that like the referee saw her hit him with a chair and
• 33:31
  said nothing, I was like, OK, I mean, the commentators were
• 33:35
  like, shouldn't you be DQ D But the fact that Jeff Jarrett's
• 33:41
  wife comes in and hits him with the the guitar, then she gets
• 33:46
  disqualified. So I was like, that's weird.
• 33:50
  Or was this right? Isn't that one that his wife?
• 33:54
  No, that was Dunkle's wife. Oh, OK.
• 33:58
  Deborah's just there to like. He took her from WTW from Steve
• 34:04
  Mongo McMichael. Because they were married.
• 34:07
  Deborah McMichael like. Oh, OK, OK.
• 34:10
  Big bears, yeah, so. Yeah, it took.
• 34:14
  Her from there. But OK.
• 34:16
  They divorced over there and then she brings, he brings her
• 34:19
  here. And he?
• 34:21
  Leaves from here to over there again, but Deborah stays behind
• 34:25
  because like. OK.
• 34:26
  She loves fucking Stone. She loves fucking Steve Austin.
• 34:29
  And then the whole thing with, you know, I'd be my wife.
• 34:33
  Come on. Anyway, that's so I was like,
• 34:39
  and the and Jerry Lawler is, Oh my gosh, I didn't realize how
• 34:44
  much of A pig he was anyway, so I was like all over.
• 34:53
  The fucking. Place I'm like, really?
• 34:55
  So she's going to get disqualified for something she
• 34:58
  didn't even do. But then she took it to him, to
• 35:02
  the ref. So I was like, yeah, get him out
• 35:04
  of here. And.
• 35:06
  I think it was at this time that Jerry Lawler and Miss Kitty were
• 35:10
  dating. Oh yeah.
• 35:12
  Because we didn't know anything about it until like, she gets
• 35:14
  fired. And he?
• 35:16
  To support her and they're like why did he leave?
• 35:19
  Because that's his girlfriend since.
• 35:21
  When? She came in like, what?
• 35:24
  That's crazy. We didn't know that.
• 35:27
  Yeah. So everything that she ever did
• 35:29
  after this up to that point, she had leeway because of him.
• 35:34
  All. The flashing, all that stuff,
• 35:38
  like she didn't get fired up until the moment where they're
• 35:40
  like, all right, we're not working reciting you ever again.
• 35:43
  We don't want you here. Yeah.
• 35:46
  So he was just cat calling his girlfriend.
• 35:48
  OK, so. Right.
• 35:50
  Maybe that's not too bad, but it looks bad because he's cat
• 35:54
  calling someone who's obviously way younger so.
• 35:59
  Always, always he loves. Them better.
• 36:03
  Any girl he's ever dated was young.
• 36:06
  Yeah. Hey, Ward Perkins, how you
• 36:07
  doing? And then, yeah, you're right,
• 36:12
  Harvey Whippleman was the referee for the match.
• 36:15
  Disgusting man. Of.
• 36:17
  Course, like even like Jared, Jeff, Jared, not Jared, Jared,
• 36:21
  Jerry Lawler was like really this guy?
• 36:25
  Like when the the sleaziest guy on commentary calls out Harvey
• 36:29
  Whippleman as the most sleaziest ever.
• 36:31
  Then. That man is the freaking
• 36:33
  sleepiest and that's Harvey. So China hits him with a chair
• 36:38
  and I'm like, it's a DQ match. This is that.
• 36:42
  Is that it? And I'm like thinking, because I
• 36:44
  read first trying to Jeff Jarrett defeated be trying to be
• 36:47
  a DQ. I was like, yeah, the end of the
• 36:49
  match. I don't know what I thought it
• 36:51
  was the end of the match. OK, they're still going so.
• 36:53
  How's the? DQ right after and then the
• 36:55
  guitar show the. Shots.
• 36:58
  Goodness gracious. All right.
• 37:01
  And the guitar show comes in and then.
• 37:03
  Yeah. Here comes Tom Pritchard saying.
• 37:07
  Well, yeah. Look at the look at the screen.
• 37:11
  They're like, what are you doing?
• 37:12
  Yeah, do your job. Right.
• 37:17
  So they did this qualification on China and she still comes
• 37:22
  out. And I'm like thinking like,
• 37:24
  wait, China's getting cheered, right?
• 37:25
  Why is she a face? And then she comes out with AAA
• 37:29
  just like, oh, yeah, this is weird.
• 37:31
  OK, yeah, all right. Next match, The Acolyte, Brad
• 37:35
  Transfer Roof defeated the Dudley Boys, Bubbly Dudley and
• 37:37
  Devon Dudley at 7 minutes and 28 seconds.
• 37:40
  I hate the gimmick, the stuttering gimmick.
• 37:46
  Me too. I was like, like.
• 37:48
  Why? And.
• 37:51
  Then he goes Dudley. When?
• 37:56
  The first. Time they came out, I remember
• 37:57
  the first time they came out. And of course.
• 37:59
  It's the rock that they interrupt.
• 38:02
  Yeah. And here comes the rock.
• 38:04
  Like who the hell are you? And here comes Bubba.
• 38:06
  The first thing to say, the end. The rock interrupts.
• 38:12
  Yeah, just. Shut your fucking mouth so the
• 38:16
  it's like you don't do that to the rock and do the.
• 38:19
  Stuff it's. Like oh this is horrible and
• 38:23
  then I don't know how they ended up changing the stuff but but I
• 38:26
  hate it. Yeah.
• 38:29
  Yeah, Farouk, this whole match, this whole match was like,
• 38:40
  they're old school. Farook and Bradshaw are old
• 38:43
  school. And when they punch you, they
• 38:45
  will punch you, Bubba. Ray Yeah, when?
• 38:47
  They punch you, they will punch you.
• 38:49
  I was like, I was really impressed because I've never
• 38:52
  seen JBL. Well, I don't remember JBL
• 38:55
  wrestling, so I was like, oh good, this is a like.
• 38:59
  It was actually, I was like, he's pretty impressive.
• 39:01
  Yeah, big old headbanger here. Yeah.
• 39:07
  This was a big old headbanger. Yeah, like they were stiff.
• 39:13
  They are stiffest. Bradshaw for are the stiffest.
• 39:16
  And then the Dudley Bose is like, alright, we're we're
• 39:19
  giving you back the receipt. We're you.
• 39:21
  Know we're doing this to you guys.
• 39:23
  And they did. And I think at one point, no, it
• 39:28
  wasn't here at all. Brash Stevie Richards interfered
• 39:33
  in the match. He was.
• 39:35
  Wearing some the black tights acolyte UPN at the time there.
• 39:39
  I thought that. UPN Smackdown was on UPN I
• 39:47
  think. Yeah, it was, yeah.
• 39:49
  A network before The CW took over.
• 39:52
  Yeah. This was when, like, you know,
• 39:55
  WB and UPN before the merger and they decided, like, you know,
• 39:59
  it's the DW now. Yeah, but Stevie Richards comes
• 40:04
  out with the UPN posted right here and think he's part of the
• 40:08
  Acolytes now. And then he hits a Devon with a
• 40:13
  Stevie kick for root, gets the pin after that for shakes his
• 40:18
  hand and like stiffs him and does one freaking move.
• 40:21
  And I was like, this is where his neck problems start.
• 40:25
  Yeah. And I think this is the part
• 40:28
  toward the 2000s where he starts doing the right to censor, where
• 40:33
  everything, because WD was in a fight with the FCC.
• 40:39
  You can't be showing that anymore.
• 40:41
  You can't be showing that. It's like, all right, what what
• 40:43
  can we show? What do we are?
• 40:45
  What are we allowed to show? And so they do a whole right to
• 40:48
  censor and everything is just, it's no longer, you know,
• 40:53
  everything is gone. That's why they didn't allow
• 40:55
  Katie to come back at all. So when did they become the APA?
• 41:04
  APA, This is the accolades. APA is this.
• 41:08
  This is the Accolade Protection Agency.
• 41:11
  Oh, OK. I didn't know what APA stood
• 41:13
  for, but I just know it was these two, you know?
• 41:16
  So I was like, did they rebrand them or?
• 41:19
  No, this whole thing Farouk and the acolytes were because at the
• 41:28
  beginning of the year Undertaker was the Minister of Darkness
• 41:33
  like. Very.
• 41:34
  Cult like. And.
• 41:36
  Everybody was in that thing like 10-15 people deep more.
• 41:42
  Working the end of the video. But you know, these people could
• 41:45
  wrestle, so the accolades were a part of it.
• 41:49
  So then the finger left and they set it up throughout the entire
• 41:53
  show. Like he just decided to walk out
• 41:56
  and leave. And I'm like, what a badass
• 41:59
  thing to do. Come.
• 42:01
  Back as the American Badass, of course.
• 42:05
  So the accolades stayed with that gimmick for like a while.
• 42:08
  I was like, all right, what are we going to do now?
• 42:09
  Let's just keep calling ourselves the Acolytes.
• 42:11
  It's like all right. And then like later on, they do
• 42:14
  a whole poker thing and it's like, what are we Like we're,
• 42:18
  we're an agency. We're a protection agency.
• 42:20
  Pay US money and we'll protect you.
• 42:22
  It's like, OK, so act like protecting the agency.
• 42:26
  APA. So from there on, what do you
• 42:31
  think of how hard this match was?
• 42:33
  There's like 7 minutes long but it's like still like a lot.
• 42:36
  Of it was 7 minutes of activity, you know what I mean?
• 42:41
  I mean, it was, I mean, I didn't even realize that it was that
• 42:46
  short, you know, because it was just, I couldn't stop watching.
• 42:50
  There wasn't anything in there like it didn't like peak and
• 42:54
  then drop and then peak and then drop.
• 42:56
  You know, it was just really, you know, high, high energy.
• 43:02
  It was a really good match. I'm like, and it had been, so I
• 43:06
  had, like I said, I've never seen JBL fight.
• 43:11
  And Farook, I thought he, you know, he was always, you know, a
• 43:15
  good wrestler. So I was like, OK, but like,
• 43:19
  look at these two, you know, it was like, oh, see what they did,
• 43:25
  You know, after, you know, I'd love to watch more of them.
• 43:30
  I guess I got to do more homework.
• 43:35
  What else? So after this is Ivory defeating
• 43:39
  Luna Vashon backstage hardcore match with WF Women's
• 43:43
  Championship. Harvey just happened to be there
• 43:47
  so he refereed the match. He was like, oh.
• 43:49
  Y'all starting? OK let's go.
• 43:51
  The match started backstage. Backstage Ivory and Luna brawl
• 43:54
  with each other and hit each other with separate weapons
• 43:56
  present in the area. Tori interfered in the match and
• 43:59
  tried to hit Ivory but Ivory attacked her and Linda went hit
• 44:01
  with a wooden pulled up in her and retained the women
• 44:04
  championship at one point. Fucking Tinder standing up.
• 44:10
  Yeah, I saw that. He's like I've never seen a
• 44:13
  vertical pin before. They're throwing stuff at each
• 44:16
  other, the TV, the makeup kit, and I'm like, damn, we all just
• 44:23
  like crazy stuff. Just fucking launching it in the
• 44:26
  air and they're like ducking it. And then?
• 44:29
  Breaking was like, oh, that was real.
• 44:32
  The phone. She threw the phone at her.
• 44:35
  Everything was being thrown. This is one of those times where
• 44:40
  Luna deserved a belt. But you know, like they're
• 44:44
  saying, even Ivory went to bat for her and said, like, you can
• 44:47
  pin me and then I'll like give you a like you can give me a
• 44:51
  title shot. You can.
• 44:52
  We can take it back again. And.
• 44:54
  Luna's all like, I don't want you to lose your job.
• 44:57
  This was a whole what was it behind the OR beyond the ring?
• 45:02
  Behind the What was it? That was it, the dark side of
• 45:05
  the ring. Dark side of the ring that.
• 45:07
  One OK, there's. A whole episode of Dark Side of
• 45:09
  the Ring of Luna Bashan and what she wanted out of this and how
• 45:14
  like she couldn't get it and stuff.
• 45:18
  So definitely watch that. 3 minutes though and it's like
• 45:22
  you. Know, I know I said this was, I
• 45:24
  put super quick match. Yeah, I was telling my sister I
• 45:33
  was like, yeah, they had, yeah, at the time I was, I had like an
• 45:38
  hour and 20 minutes left. I'm like, so far they've had,
• 45:43
  you know, like 6 matches I said. And one of them was pretty much
• 45:48
  backstage and it was the shortest one I said and it was
• 45:50
  the women. She's like, you know, that's how
• 45:53
  they always did, you know, super quick matches.
• 45:57
  You know, it's like no respect for for the women wrestlers.
• 46:01
  Welcome to the attitude arrow. Yeah.
• 46:08
  Like we had a good back then. Yeah, we had a good back then.
• 46:12
  This was this was short, super short, but same time nine
• 46:17
  matches. I know that sounds like.
• 46:20
  Compared to now where we're like this shit fucking over yet and.
• 46:24
  It's four matches. It's four matches with
• 46:28
  commercials. Super.
• 46:30
  Boring as well. And, yeah.
• 46:32
  And so it's like they give them, you know, it's supposed to be a
• 46:36
  long match, and it just starts getting boring.
• 46:39
  And that's when you're like, oh, let me go to the bathroom.
• 46:41
  Let me go get some food, you know?
• 46:44
  So it's like, yeah, yeah. But all of these matches so far,
• 46:49
  I'm like, I was like, oh. OK, wow, every one of.
• 46:54
  These. Matches, I did not want to get
• 46:55
  up and leave. Yeah, I just like, oh, cool.
• 46:59
  Like, all right. I bring defeated Luna Bachana.
• 47:01
  That's great. Drink minutes.
• 47:02
  That's fine. Next match was New age Allah
• 47:06
  reunited for the It's been a while.
• 47:09
  Yeah, well. Dog defeated Edwin Christian for
• 47:12
  the W attacking championship. 11 minutes and 9 seconds.
• 47:18
  None of these people look the same except for Billy.
• 47:21
  He still looks what he looks like that back then.
• 47:24
  True. Which is true.
• 47:25
  And I was like, I'm sitting there.
• 47:27
  I'm like, I'm like, to me, Christian looks way better now,
• 47:33
  older with short hair, you know, and I'm like, oh, Edge,
• 47:38
  Christian and Billy Gunn are all in AW now.
• 47:44
  I like, which is crazy, you know, But I was like, you could
• 47:50
  tell. It's a 90.
• 47:51
  He's what? Billy Gunn?
• 47:53
  Is 62 years old and he still looks good.
• 47:55
  He looks amazing. So, yeah, going back, Jimmy Cruz
• 48:02
  with the referee for the match, edging Christian.
• 48:06
  Christian with the long hair, that was like crazy.
• 48:10
  I, I haven't seen Christian with long hair in a while.
• 48:13
  Yeah, Rd. dot comes out with the whole New Age Outlaws thing.
• 48:17
  I missed that. Yeah, I.
• 48:19
  Used to just like say it along with them as well.
• 48:23
  I was, I was obviously of course with the DX shirt.
• 48:26
  Like this is the reason why I got suspended.
• 48:29
  Oh yeah, I got 2 words for you. The two words for you, principal
• 48:34
  teacher. Principal's office.
• 48:38
  You know what? Suck it.
• 48:40
  You could have it too. You could have it pump handle
• 48:46
  slam by Rd. Dog and then doing the whole,
• 48:50
  you know, trying to hump. That was the thing back then.
• 48:54
  It was like everything was like the Wild West of this stuff.
• 48:58
  It's. Crazy.
• 49:02
  Wait, I want to go back to the acolyte, OK?
• 49:06
  Because there was something that fucking made me laugh so much.
• 49:12
  I don't know if it was Devon or Bubba petting Bradshaw and
• 49:15
  Farouk just passing by and not even kicking out or not even
• 49:19
  hitting disrupting the count. He just walked by.
• 49:23
  He just walked by. I'm like, are you not going to?
• 49:26
  Hello. He's over there getting.
• 49:30
  Pinned. You're over there doing
• 49:32
  something else like it just passed by.
• 49:34
  You know it. Don't twice.
• 49:36
  I'm like Farooq was just like I I trust my time.
• 49:41
  Partner and not at that. It was like 2 would be in the
• 49:46
  ring and the other two were fighting on the outside right?
• 49:49
  You know what? The ref was just, you know, not
• 49:51
  caring. Yeah, they're sitting there.
• 49:54
  They're fighting. Over here, it wasn't that.
• 49:57
  They're just like, these aren't real refs.
• 49:59
  The real refs are outside like. Right, right.
• 50:02
  That's what I thought they were doing whatever they wanted to
• 50:04
  let us do whatever you want. It's like, oh, he'll kick out
• 50:08
  and too, let me go beat him up over there.
• 50:12
  I'm like. Farouk Disrupt account Billy
• 50:18
  Gunn with the famous Sir. I love that he still hits, that
• 50:20
  he's still. Hit Yeah.
• 50:25
  Interrupted the new brood Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy with
• 50:29
  Gangrel and then like later on we get it was crazy to see that
• 50:36
  Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy went from what's his face from three
• 50:43
  different managers Golda's ex-wife Terry Terry OK to what's
• 50:53
  his face I forgot his name and then to Gangrel and then the
• 51:01
  Billy not Billy the other two agent Christian got what is that
• 51:12
  DOA not DOA back bad St. bad St. What's the bad St. hold?
• 51:22
  On OK cuz yeah, when they said oh, the Hardy Boys are here, I'm
• 51:29
  like, I only see 1 and I see Gangrel, so I'm like, he's not a
• 51:36
  Hardy Boy. And then at the end of the match
• 51:39
  when they, you know, were going towards the back, I saw both
• 51:43
  Hardy Boys and Gangrel. I was like, oh, OK.
• 51:46
  I was like I missed 1 Michael. Hayes.
• 51:50
  Oh yeah, I. Played with managing the Hardy
• 51:53
  boys. He even dressed like them at at
• 51:56
  one point with tight ass shirt. I'm like third now.
• 52:00
  No, Sir, Terry, my place, don't do it.
• 52:07
  Terry managed to the Hardy Boys and then we get the Gangrel and
• 52:11
  then we get the best series between Edge and Christian and
• 52:13
  the Hardy Boys. Gangrel on one corner, Terry or
• 52:19
  freaking. What's his face?
• 52:23
  Michael Hayes. Michael Hayes and and that's
• 52:27
  when we get the whole tag team of the TLC matches.
• 52:31
  Like the? Following year with the Dudley
• 52:34
  Boys and ever since then, it's just like they're legendary now
• 52:39
  and like Billy Gunn's still wrestling.
• 52:43
  That's crazy. Yeah.
• 52:48
  So they're back. The the Billy Gunner rolled our
• 52:51
  back. As the.
• 52:53
  DX or the New Age Outlaws and they're like, let's you know,
• 52:57
  let's get the band back together and stuff up next.
• 53:01
  The worst match on the card? Forever.
• 53:03
  Forever. And ever.
• 53:04
  I don't care what. Anybody says this is horrible
• 53:07
  Big boss man Kendall from Hell match Hardcore championship. 11
• 53:11
  minutes and 42 seconds of horrible.
• 53:14
  It consisted of a steel cage surrounded by a hell in a cell
• 53:16
  cage and dogs were around the ring.
• 53:18
  Within the cell was a doorman or.
• 53:22
  Rottweilers. They were Rottweilers, yeah.
• 53:25
  The first competitor escaped the steel cage in the cell would be
• 53:27
  declared a winner. Snow tried to keep Bosman
• 53:29
  outside the ring, but after several attempts, Bosman finally
• 53:31
  entered the ring and attacked Snow.
• 53:35
  Snow locked, unlocked himself and knocked out Bosman with a
• 53:38
  head, and escaped both cages and retained the Hardcore
• 53:41
  Championship. Remember when I said about
• 53:43
  headshots? Yeah.
• 53:45
  So the shovel, the snow shovel, the head, the head of the snow
• 53:51
  shovel. And you hear it and you hear it.
• 53:59
  Yeah. And I'm just like, Oh my God,
• 54:04
  that hurts. I had to rewind it.
• 54:06
  And then he just like. Places it on top of his head.
• 54:09
  Hits him with it like you could hear the thump.
• 54:14
  I'm like, this is CTE right here.
• 54:17
  This is the reason why we're everybody's fucked.
• 54:20
  Up I know and you know, I think what makes it even worse is that
• 54:27
  the the wrestlers that passed away never made it like past
• 54:33
  like 40. Yeah.
• 54:35
  They did, you know, and I'm like, I've outlived, you know, I
• 54:40
  was like, I'm past the age of these wrestlers that I grew up
• 54:45
  watching. I'm like, and they they
• 54:47
  literally, you know, they passed away before they even, you know,
• 54:52
  hit 40. And then you've got, you know,
• 54:56
  Ric Flair, who's in his 70s, you know, almost 80, like you said,
• 55:01
  you've got Billy Gunn who's 60, What you say, 6263.
• 55:06
  You know, like, it's amazing that some of these wrestlers
• 55:11
  that we grew up with watching made it and some didn't.
• 55:19
  And it's just it's sad, you know, and you're just thinking,
• 55:24
  I wonder what they would be like today, you know, what they would
• 55:27
  be doing. It's just crazy to me it.
• 55:33
  Is. And you know, it's so funny when
• 55:36
  I was looking at when they were talking about, you know, Big
• 55:40
  Boss when I was talking and I was like, you know, guess Al
• 55:43
  Snow. I'm like Al Snow.
• 55:45
  I'm like, who is that? And I was like, oh, wait, I
• 55:48
  remember I was like, that's the guy that would walk around with
• 55:50
  that head did that like, and then his shirt, you know, I
• 55:55
  remember the shirt now. Oh my God.
• 56:03
  I'm remembering stuff from this episode from.
• 56:06
  This, I know, I'm like, wow, I'm like, Yep, we couldn't have that
• 56:09
  shirt now or it would be like they'd have to like fuzz it out,
• 56:16
  you know? Yeah, let's talk about the dogs
• 56:20
  who didn't do anything. But play with each other.
• 56:24
  Play with each other. Pissed around the ring poop.
• 56:27
  Yeah, I. Know and everybody in the front
• 56:31
  row could smell it even. Boss.
• 56:33
  Said that at one point he smelled it and it's.
• 56:35
  Like, yeah. He had that face like, you know,
• 56:39
  trying to like stay away from them, but at the same time like,
• 56:41
  oh, this shit sucks. This is disgusting.
• 56:43
  OK, so did you. Do you know why they had this
• 56:48
  kind of match? Do.
• 56:51
  You. No, I don't.
• 56:52
  Well, so because so Al Snow said something about Pepper and then
• 56:56
  they were talking about I guess Big Boss Man took his dog,
• 57:01
  skinned it, cooked, didn't eat it.
• 57:05
  Yeah. OK.
• 57:07
  Bossman that whole year, I'm telling you that Bossman that
• 57:10
  whole year was out of control. OK, playing with.
• 57:14
  Big show at the very end of the year.
• 57:16
  Him and like, you know, because Head had a little Chihuahua.
• 57:22
  Pechihuahua. OK, there's a pep.
• 57:23
  OK, His name was Pepper. He would bring him everywhere.
• 57:26
  He would go like, OK, where are you?
• 57:28
  Pepper. Pepper.
• 57:29
  OK. Dog is lost.
• 57:31
  I well, I thought it was I I thought maybe Pepper was a a
• 57:35
  Rottweiler. That's why they had him.
• 57:36
  But OK, a little the. Little Taco Bell Chihuahua at
• 57:43
  the time. Taco Bell, right?
• 57:44
  OK. Oh, here lizard, lizard, lizard,
• 57:48
  like the whole thing with the Taco Bell and then like, hey,
• 57:51
  let's give him a a Chihuahua dog.
• 57:53
  It's like all right, here you go.
• 57:55
  So he would have a pet Chihuahua with him and everything.
• 57:57
  And then Bosman fucking cooks it and everything and feeds it to
• 58:02
  pepper. And it's like, what do you think
• 58:05
  of it? And he didn't know what it is.
• 58:07
  And so like, here, here's your dinner.
• 58:08
  And it's like, what do you think of it?
• 58:10
  Like, is it all spicy? I put a lot of pepper into it.
• 58:14
  You. Said Wow.
• 58:18
  You're eating pepper like the spice?
• 58:21
  No, your dog. Oh my gosh, yeah.
• 58:26
  And. Boss man, that whole year was
• 58:29
  out of control for that. Wild as hell.
• 58:33
  So that's why this whole match came about.
• 58:34
  Alice knows decided I'm going to put you in a candle from Helmet.
• 58:37
  It's just Alice knows match. OK.
• 58:41
  Horrible because the freaking blue steel cage was moving and
• 58:46
  didn't I feel like it didn't like put it down right?
• 58:50
  Well, the fact that they were still building it, you know what
• 58:55
  I mean? So when I first saw, you know, I
• 58:59
  saw the cage up top until I was like, OK, and they're like, oh,
• 59:03
  it's going to be a double cage. And I'm like, OK, like, you
• 59:07
  know, where's the, I'm thinking, you know, like Survivor Series
• 59:12
  double cage, you know, kind of thing.
• 59:14
  And I'm like, or, you know, like a super big cage.
• 59:18
  And I'm like, what's what's going on?
• 59:20
  And they're like, yeah, one's going to be attached to the
• 59:22
  ring. And as they're saying that,
• 59:25
  they're still building it. So I'm like, y'all better hurry
• 59:30
  up because the wrestlers, you know, are coming.
• 59:33
  But they just built it. And then they put the other
• 59:40
  cage, you know, on top of it. So it's like, OK, this is really
• 59:43
  weird. And then where did big Boss man
• 59:46
  get pliers from? His pouches.
• 59:50
  OK owned his cargo pants, cargo pants pouches.
• 59:54
  He had so many. Pouches on him.
• 59:56
  That yeah, yeah. That's on point.
• 59:59
  I was on brand with him. Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  For some, for being the worst match of the card, we did talk a
• 1:00:05
  lot about it. So it's the the, the the match.
• 1:00:11
  Everybody remembers it. Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  All right, second to last match, Xbox defeated Chris Jericho with
• 1:00:17
  Curtis Hughes by DQ 13 minutes and 10 seconds.
• 1:00:20
  Tom Pritchard referee to match Xbox again.
• 1:00:24
  Little like saying about him is that I loved him like he was my
• 1:00:30
  favorite wrestler at the time. Is he like every time about it?
• 1:00:34
  Like the reason I did that is because of him.
• 1:00:38
  He's the whole reason. And like everybody be like you
• 1:00:41
  look like Xbox, you look like Xbox.
• 1:00:43
  Do it, do it. I was like, all right, there you
• 1:00:44
  go. Obviously, 1998, I did the whole
• 1:00:48
  sting. And.
• 1:00:50
  Everything. I kept the long hair because I
• 1:00:52
  wanted to do Xbox next year. It's like, all right, cool.
• 1:00:57
  Mr. Hughes was a big part of the 80s.
• 1:01:00
  I didn't understand why he was in here.
• 1:01:01
  But Jericho had a bodyguard and it was Mr. Hughes.
• 1:01:04
  And I was like, hey, that's Mr. Hughes.
• 1:01:10
  Jericho doomed to hit the Xbox with a diving splash.
• 1:01:12
  Xbox counter with a spinning heel kick.
• 1:01:16
  Bronco Buster can't do that move anymore.
• 1:01:18
  Double underhook back breaker. It was this was a great match.
• 1:01:23
  I loved it and I was like slow into it.
• 1:01:26
  Even though it was. 13 minutes long.
• 1:01:28
  That's fine. Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Back to referee Tom Pritchard and Jerick was disqualified.
• 1:01:32
  Jerick when he was attacked by Xbox until Rd.
• 1:01:34
  Dog came out to rescue for Xbox from the 2.
• 1:01:37
  And that's when you're like, oh, they're to reuniting, except
• 1:01:40
  with Triple H. He doesn't want a part of it.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah, until the year 2000 when they do the whole thing with
• 1:01:47
  McMahon and Hemsley, Stephanie and Triple H and had DX.
• 1:01:57
  Yeah. And then they all turn heel.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah. China's just doing her own
• 1:02:03
  thing. Yeah, because.
• 1:02:05
  You know he cheated. On they're jerks.
• 1:02:08
  No, they're jerks. Don't hurt.
• 1:02:12
  Me don't hurt me. He's shit OK.
• 1:02:17
  Final match of the night Triple H defeated Big Show, The British
• 1:02:19
  Bulldog Kane, Mankind, The Rock 6 Pack Challenge for the VKW
• 1:02:23
  Championship with Stone, Ghosty, Boston, the special offsider
• 1:02:25
  Forrester. 20 minutes and 28 seconds.
• 1:02:28
  Even if it was 20 minutes, I still was for it out of my mind.
• 1:02:34
  Well, I don't. Oh, go ahead.
• 1:02:36
  Sorry. British Bulldog didn't do much
• 1:02:38
  in this match. He.
• 1:02:39
  Was suffering from a back injury from back.
• 1:02:42
  In WCW. There was a show when Ultimate
• 1:02:48
  Warrior came back to WCW to confront Hulk Hogan.
• 1:02:53
  There was a trap door at the very bottom at in the in the
• 1:02:56
  middle of the ring where he would just go up from there.
• 1:02:59
  Nobody knew about the trap door. Nobody knew where it was, you
• 1:03:02
  know, So everybody was working, everybody was slamming through
• 1:03:05
  it and everything. Bulldogs slammed on the top of
• 1:03:09
  the trap door and they hurt his back.
• 1:03:12
  So he left WCW like towards like the year, the entire year he's
• 1:03:17
  in here, but he doesn't do much like hey.
• 1:03:20
  Can I do? Something and on the shelves
• 1:03:21
  like here, you can do this. It's like, all right, help out,
• 1:03:24
  Triple H That's it. Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Because I was like, why did we have to have this match?
• 1:03:30
  I don't understand, you know, why a six man like tag match for
• 1:03:38
  a single belt, You know, And then I'm like, OK, the concept
• 1:03:43
  makes no sense to me because you're tagging in, but you guys
• 1:03:51
  are all fighting for the belt. So why not have all of you, you
• 1:03:56
  know, in the mat, you know, in the ring at the same time.
• 1:04:01
  But then they're like, oh, who's the legal man?
• 1:04:04
  Is it this person or this person?
• 1:04:05
  I'm like, why does it matter? Today would work as an elevation
• 1:04:11
  chamber. Yes.
• 1:04:13
  That would be it. Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Like I said, British Bulldog and Triple H were teaming mankind.
• 1:04:20
  Right. Team already.
• 1:04:22
  Right. Big Show and Kane hate each
• 1:04:25
  other, but they're still going to do stuff.
• 1:04:30
  And then even like it stayed in their match.
• 1:04:33
  Like what the hell is Mankind doing?
• 1:04:34
  It's like, I don't know, I'm just sitting here be drinking my
• 1:04:36
  beer. Yeah, I know.
• 1:04:38
  And the fact that Steve Aust is like, I don't care as long as I
• 1:04:43
  get my, you know, my chat, I don't care who who it is.
• 1:04:48
  So I'm sitting here and commentate and drink my beer.
• 1:04:50
  Yeah. I was like, that was like.
• 1:04:54
  Later on the show, the entire referees that were out there
• 1:04:58
  picketing came back and. Like, yeah.
• 1:05:00
  Doing the ring. What the hell are you doing over
• 1:05:02
  there, Sir? Huh.
• 1:05:03
  Right, so they. Take them out and everything.
• 1:05:06
  Here comes stone cold. I know I was like, woohoo, I
• 1:05:10
  loved it. That's the.
• 1:05:11
  Whole reason why they're they're outside on strike is because
• 1:05:14
  you're and here you are kicking their asses again.
• 1:05:18
  I was like, so he counts at 3 on Triple H, he wins the belt and
• 1:05:23
  then he gives him a stutter. Because Triple H ripped it out
• 1:05:29
  of his hand. He was being nice and giving him
• 1:05:32
  his belt and he grabbed it. So hey, yeah, pretty.
• 1:05:37
  He did, isn't he? Does what Stone Cold does.
• 1:05:40
  Exactly, After getting disqualified into WF Intercronal
• 1:05:43
  Championship and that's against Jeff Jarrett, Unforgiven, China
• 1:05:45
  continued to pursue the Intercronal Championship.
• 1:05:47
  On the September 7th 27th episode of Ross War, China
• 1:05:50
  pinned Jarrett in the battle of the sections pitting China and
• 1:05:52
  therefore against Jarrett and Tom Prichard.
• 1:05:54
  The pre match stipulation was that China would earn another
• 1:05:56
  Intercronal Championship opportunity if you pinned
• 1:05:58
  Jarrett and the result earned the opportunity.
• 1:06:00
  September 30th their match was made a Good Housekeeping match
• 1:06:03
  at No Mercy. China defeated Jarrett and a
• 1:06:05
  Good Housekeeping match to become the first and only female
• 1:06:07
  Intercronal champion WF. This match was Jared's last
• 1:06:10
  match in WFS. He prom as a promotion and he
• 1:06:14
  left a promotion and joined rival promotion World
• 1:06:16
  Championship Wrestling. Yeah, this was when at that
• 1:06:25
  exact time that he's. Yeah, because I thought this was
• 1:06:28
  when she won it. Yeah, and.
• 1:06:32
  Goes to those OU slap nuts, new gimmick, everything with the
• 1:06:37
  guitar, yeah slap nuts and just goes wild.
• 1:06:43
  Everybody does Dragon. WF referee went back to work
• 1:06:46
  before the September 27th episode of Ross War Luna Vashon
• 1:06:49
  returned to managing her then husband Gangrel, helping him in
• 1:06:51
  his matches. WF Women's Champion Ivory
• 1:06:56
  defeated with WF Hall of Famer is the fabulous Moolah and Me
• 1:06:58
  Young, culminating at No Mercy with Moolah defeating Ivory to
• 1:07:01
  become the oldest WF Women's Champion in history at age 76.
• 1:07:06
  Oh, and those two was something else.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah, yeah. Moolah was just.
• 1:07:13
  Moolah was just like, yeah, they were doing the interview.
• 1:07:17
  Here comes Ivory and it's like, hold up, hold up.
• 1:07:19
  Can I say something real quick? And Moolah just like, no, shut
• 1:07:21
  the fuck up. Not even the like a second.
• 1:07:25
  She didn't even say anything to her.
• 1:07:26
  She didn't do anything. It's like he just interrupted
• 1:07:28
  me. This is old school.
• 1:07:30
  There you go. Yeah, after Triple H won the six
• 1:07:33
  pack challenge for the big N.W.A championship, but unforgiven to
• 1:07:35
  Rock wrestle Triple H in the match for the title on September
• 1:07:37
  27th episode of Roz War. However, the match ended up in
• 1:07:41
  the no contents after interference by the British
• 1:07:42
  Bulldog, they earned the Bulldog.
• 1:07:44
  This earned Bulldog a title match with Triple H on the
• 1:07:45
  September 30th episode of Smackdown, but the special
• 1:07:48
  guests were free to Rock left the match.
• 1:07:51
  Bulldog began has been in his turn by crossing the Rocket
• 1:07:54
  title costing of the Rocket title match against Triple H in
• 1:07:56
  the steel cage match rebellion. This led to a match between the
• 1:07:59
  Rock and Bulldog and No Mercy, which the Rock won.
• 1:08:02
  On the other hand, Stone goes to Boston was the number one
• 1:08:04
  contender for the WF Championship at No Mercy.
• 1:08:06
  Triple H if you just Steve Austin that anything goes match
• 1:08:08
  to retain the WF Championship. Also the night where the matter
• 1:08:14
  Triple H is a special guest referee.
• 1:08:16
  That's the the sliding elbow, people's elbow when?
• 1:08:22
  He doesn't. Like puts him over there, he
• 1:08:24
  goes to the and he slides towards the middle of the ring
• 1:08:28
  with his shoes. What is it?
• 1:08:29
  Fucking yeah. Good shoes.
• 1:08:31
  That's the people in Elbow. That's the most iconic thing.
• 1:08:34
  Ever. Yeah.
• 1:08:36
  And it's the reason why. It's because I remember it,
• 1:08:38
  because the Bulldog was the one that received that elbow drop.
• 1:08:46
  Yeah. And then the Kennel from Hell
• 1:08:48
  match had a negative reception. It had been called one of the
• 1:08:51
  worst gimmick matches in history as the dog showed no hostility
• 1:08:55
  towards the Confederors and instead urinated, defecated,
• 1:08:59
  even made it outside the ring. Yeah.
• 1:09:01
  And they're like kept running from the dogs.
• 1:09:03
  And I was like, they're not doing anything.
• 1:09:06
  They're like, oh, they're so vicious.
• 1:09:07
  They're so vicious. As they're going to the ring,
• 1:09:10
  they're all like, like, Oh yeah, real vicious dogs.
• 1:09:16
  I'm like, and they have handlers.
• 1:09:17
  Come on now. You really think their handlers
• 1:09:20
  are going to let them be out of control?
• 1:09:21
  No WF Booker Vince Mercer calls the worth booking of his career
• 1:09:25
  Wrestling Observer newsletter words match as the worst worked
• 1:09:28
  match of the year. PLU insiders Mike Johnson called
• 1:09:31
  it one of the worst papers ever. It I wouldn't call it the worst
• 1:09:36
  paper, just like the worst match show.
• 1:09:40
  Maybe worst of that error because we know that there's
• 1:09:46
  been some so many. Great ones.
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  This is horrible. Like first episode of wrestling,
• 1:09:57
  episode of the year, and you want Unforgiven 99?
• 1:10:00
  I love it. No, I love it.
• 1:10:05
  It's like I went back to it and it's like, oh, wow, OK, yeah.
• 1:10:09
  What are these people doing now? Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Acolyte Bradshaw. Farooq doing Damn Bradshaw doing
• 1:10:18
  Bradshaw stuff. Bubba Ray and Devon are retired.
• 1:10:24
  Yeah. Jeff Jarrett is retired.
• 1:10:26
  Miss Katie. Don't know where she's at.
• 1:10:27
  China passed away. Deal Brown.
• 1:10:33
  He's retired. Mark Henry is training his son.
• 1:10:39
  Sean Morley is just an asshole. Steve Black man.
• 1:10:41
  I don't know where he's at. Ivory is still around.
• 1:10:45
  Luna Michonne passed away. Philly Gun Rd.
• 1:10:48
  Dogg is just backstage. Philly Gun is still wrestling.
• 1:10:52
  Edge barely wrestles. Christiana doesn't like your
• 1:10:55
  dad. I know.
• 1:11:00
  Don't call him a father either because he's not your father.
• 1:11:02
  He's not a father figure. And if you have a father that
• 1:11:07
  passed away, he will let you know.
• 1:11:10
  Luke Perry, motherfucker. Can't tell.
• 1:11:15
  I was like. 'Cause.
• 1:11:18
  So I, you know, at that time when it happened, you know, I
• 1:11:24
  was watching a little bit AW. And so I remember that.
• 1:11:27
  And I was like, oh, too soon. And your jerk for doing that,
• 1:11:31
  You know, his dad was a beloved character, a beloved actor.
• 1:11:36
  Don't say nothing about him, you know.
• 1:11:38
  Exactly what else is going on? Just saw some AW stuff at the
• 1:11:48
  moment the rascals showed up. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah. Both of them or all three of
• 1:11:56
  them? Except for may Trey Miguel one
• 1:12:01
  what missing Trey Miguel is all the one that's missing, But I
• 1:12:04
  did the whole skip backstage where like the girl like
• 1:12:09
  knocking the door and you see all you see is smoke coming out.
• 1:12:16
  So they're doing some activities there and then they do the whole
• 1:12:23
  Hanson wave and all that stuff. It's fun.
• 1:12:26
  They're there. All right, We're I'm going to do
• 1:12:30
  something I haven't done in a while since Michael used to be
• 1:12:33
  on here before I could do that, Jane.
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  Jane. Hi, Jane.
• 1:12:41
  Minus is high back then for every show that we reviewed, we
• 1:12:48
  would like what do you rate this on a scale of videotapes from
• 1:12:54
  1:00 to 10:00? So we're going to do the same.
• 1:12:57
  We're going to bring that back. Oh, OK.
• 1:12:59
  On a scale of 1 to 10 static videotapes, 8 hour videotape,
• 1:13:04
  what do you rate this show? I say it was an 8.
• 1:13:09
  It was an 8 because that one. No, no, you know what?
• 1:13:17
  I it, it took me too long to finish it, but that's because I
• 1:13:24
  had to stop it because I had to stop so I could take my nephew
• 1:13:30
  to work and then our Co host needed his walk.
• 1:13:34
  So, so I had, so I had watched and I didn't realize until I was
• 1:13:42
  like, let me see how much I have left that I was an hour and 17
• 1:13:48
  minutes in and I still had an hour 21 left.
• 1:13:54
  So I'm like, oh, I didn't, you know, I knew they were about
• 1:14:00
  two, you know, 2 1/2 hours, but I just didn't realize how many
• 1:14:04
  matches, you know, that they were having.
• 1:14:07
  You know, even when I looked, you know, I looked on Wikipedia
• 1:14:11
  just to see, I didn't realize how many matches at.
• 1:14:15
  I just like, oh, OK. I was like, oh, this looks like,
• 1:14:18
  you know, it was, you know, I thought maybe six matches
• 1:14:21
  because you figure they'd give because here I'm thinking
• 1:14:27
  they're going to review everything, you know, like they
• 1:14:31
  do now. What happened, you know, in the
• 1:14:35
  beginning, what happened with this feud, what happened here?
• 1:14:37
  What happened here? But they didn't, they talked.
• 1:14:39
  They had Michael Cole, which looks, he looks so fun to me.
• 1:14:44
  It's so funny to see him. So him and Lillian Garcia, you
• 1:14:49
  know, they were do a little backstage segment and I'm like,
• 1:14:53
  Oh yeah, I forgot they used to do that.
• 1:14:54
  And that was it. You know, maybe I think 1 one
• 1:15:02
  match, they actually got a little bit into why they were
• 1:15:06
  having the match. And I believe it was the main
• 1:15:08
  event, you know, so I was like, OK, but I'm like, you know, I
• 1:15:12
  got to get through this click. I was like, let's get to it.
• 1:15:16
  But other than that, I thought it was a really good, I thought
• 1:15:20
  it was a really good pick. For me, though, it was.
• 1:15:22
  I'm going. To give it a 6th.
• 1:15:27
  OK. I didn't care for the first
• 1:15:29
  match. Obviously.
• 1:15:31
  Because it's like. Sure.
• 1:15:32
  So yeah, I'm still. Going to watch it because Oh
• 1:15:35
  yeah I remember his porn gimmick.
• 1:15:37
  Great. Yeah.
• 1:15:42
  Watching Miss Kitty with blonde hair instead of black hair later
• 1:15:45
  on. It's like.
• 1:15:47
  Crazy, yeah. The accolades put on a show, put
• 1:15:51
  on the head the banger of the night.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah. And it was only 11 minutes long.
• 1:15:57
  I agree and Luna didn't care much for it.
• 1:16:00
  Yeah. There's a sat and.
• 1:16:02
  Then you know, I think just I think I rated also so high is
• 1:16:07
  because there like you, like we said, there wasn't really
• 1:16:11
  anything that was to me super boring, right?
• 1:16:15
  There. Wasn't, you know, it just kept,
• 1:16:17
  you know, the action just kept coming.
• 1:16:20
  I just didn't, I didn't care for, you know, the scab
• 1:16:24
  referees. I'm like, Oh my man, the.
• 1:16:26
  Scab referee. You know, but you know, but I
• 1:16:30
  thought it was hilarious when the real referees came in and
• 1:16:34
  they're like, what's he doing? You know, they're sitting there
• 1:16:37
  talking crap about him and he's like, what?
• 1:16:41
  I'm doing my job I'm doing. My job.
• 1:16:43
  Yeah. So, so it was.
• 1:16:46
  It was entertaining to me. Sat there, watched the kettle
• 1:16:51
  from hell match all the way through, never been there before
• 1:16:55
  and I'm just like. Why?
• 1:16:58
  He's like, I'm gonna get her for this.
• 1:17:02
  And then the minivan was just like, what?
• 1:17:04
  Why attack? Oh.
• 1:17:06
  OK this. Is weird, but this is like a
• 1:17:09
  six. But I still enjoyed it and just
• 1:17:12
  like I was still entertained, but the middle was just like,
• 1:17:14
  Nah, like all right. So yeah, that's my, that's me.
• 1:17:26
  Love you, you enjoyed it. I did.
• 1:17:31
  OK, good. As long as you did, you want to
• 1:17:35
  do more of these? Yeah, OK.
• 1:17:39
  This time I promise I won't wait for the day I'm like.
• 1:17:44
  You know, it's like I started that whole week.
• 1:17:48
  Yeah, I. Think on Tuesday I started
• 1:17:50
  watching it and then like the days went by and then the whole
• 1:17:54
  all right, Deadpool's out, I got to play him.
• 1:17:58
  Yeah. Like damn it, when can I play
• 1:18:00
  this? When am I going to be able to
• 1:18:02
  watch this show? Yeah, there.
• 1:18:05
  It is when you fell asleep. So, yeah.
• 1:18:11
  All right, that's it. Well, we'll do a number one,
• 1:18:14
  we'll do another. One, we're doing predictions on
• 1:18:18
  Roy Rumble 2 weeks from now. Crazy.
• 1:18:24
  It's in two. Weeks.
• 1:18:25
  That's fun, I know. Are you ready to go?
• 1:18:30
  Yeah. All right, that's where we're
• 1:18:33
  going to ring the bell on this one.
• 1:18:34
  Unforgiven 1999. I showed that lived in the exact
• 1:18:37
  sweet spot when wrestling was loud, messy, a little one hinged
• 1:18:43
  wild, Wild West. We didn't have we.
• 1:18:47
  Didn't you notice in the entire area there was just flashing
• 1:18:51
  cameras, no video? Yeah.
• 1:18:54
  That was we were in the moment, we wanted to be in the moment,
• 1:19:00
  we wanted to live in the moment. We weren't doing any selfies.
• 1:19:02
  We weren't like trying. To take video.
• 1:19:04
  Of it. And it felt perfect because of
• 1:19:08
  it. That was our generation.
• 1:19:11
  That was what we loved about it. All the flashy signs, all the
• 1:19:15
  signs out there, all the creative signs.
• 1:19:17
  Some of them were little Bobic not allowed to say anything here
• 1:19:23
  anymore. That's not allowed anymore.
• 1:19:25
  That's crazy. That was the attitude and
• 1:19:28
  energy. Crowds that felt dangerous,
• 1:19:30
  storylines that didn't ask for permission.
• 1:19:33
  Moments that only make sense if you were there or if you stayed
• 1:19:36
  up way past your bedtime watching scrambled cable and
• 1:19:38
  praying the feed didn't come out.
• 1:19:43
  And that is the WWF ball test move.
• 1:19:46
  I'm calling it WWF. Still, I don't care.
• 1:19:48
  Those events are getting rediscovered all over again.
• 1:19:50
  It hits different. So here's the questions for you.
• 1:19:53
  The chat, everybody. Spotify.
• 1:19:56
  What do you remember from Unforgiven 99?
• 1:19:59
  What's a specific match? A finish that made no sense but
• 1:20:03
  you defended anyway. A moment I stuck with you longer
• 1:20:05
  than possibly should have. The Kennel from Hell match, the
• 1:20:09
  dog kennel match, whatever the hell that was.
• 1:20:11
  That's the only thing I remember from it because I said it was
• 1:20:15
  the most horrible match ever. I've never seen it, but I just
• 1:20:18
  know all about it. Tell us where you were when you
• 1:20:22
  watched it on the couch at a friend's house, sneaking in with
• 1:20:25
  the volume low like it was contraband.
• 1:20:28
  Because those memories, That's the real archive.
• 1:20:31
  And don't be surprised we do this again.
• 1:20:33
  Another rewind, another late nighty snapshot, Another night
• 1:20:36
  where wrestling felt like it could jump off the screen and
• 1:20:39
  change the week. But coming up real soon, where
• 1:20:42
  our Rumble season is, here, it's rather on the corner.
• 1:20:46
  Which means predictions, chaos, surprise, entrance.
• 1:20:49
  And Mendez is absolutely pulling back up with takes that will
• 1:20:53
  start arguments immediately. I.
• 1:20:58
  Know I'm going to have something.
• 1:20:59
  To say about what she says so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:03
  Which means, which also means WrestleMania season is going to
• 1:21:07
  be here soon and we're going to be busy again.
• 1:21:11
  Are you ready for that? Are you ready for?
• 1:21:13
  More hours again. Yes.
• 1:21:16
  OK, so you already know how that goes.
• 1:21:18
  So until next time, keep the attitude error alive.
• 1:21:20
  Keep the debates loud. Keep the nostalgia undefeated.
• 1:21:23
  This was the MTV podcast where memory hits harder in the chair
• 1:21:27
  shots and wrestling history never stays buried.
• 1:21:30
  We'll see you next time. Say bye.
• 1:21:33
  Bye.