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Patriots Unfiltered 5/30: OTA Recap, Risers & Drake Maye Observations · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, no Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: here at a Less stadium.
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  Speaker 5: I did the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming off in O t A yesterday, so
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't able to go there. So I'm really excited
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  Speaker 2: to hear what the three of you have to say.
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  Speaker 2: And Evan, are you still upset? Like you know, tell
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  Speaker 2: me everything. It's it's Deuce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me.
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  Speaker 2: We're here for the next two hours on Patriots Unfiltered,
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  Speaker 2: So let's let's get right into it. O t A
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  Speaker 2: yesterday we had full access. What do you think? Yeah, Ethan,
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  Speaker 2: I was directed to you.
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  Speaker 6: So first of all, I do want to apologize to
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  Speaker 6: Fred about our snarkiness about his NBA takes on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 6: I don't I feel as though we we you know,
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  Speaker 6: belittled you a little bit and said you didn't know
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  Speaker 6: what you were talking about.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think I made enough for the fun baseball
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  Speaker 5: team that I see wanted to come off.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're fun.
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  Speaker 6: Just listening to us just you know, say absolutely not
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  Speaker 6: to Luca doct just being the best player in the league.
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  Speaker 5: I just felt a little it was a little mean.
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  Speaker 6: Anyways, in terms of the OTAs, I like to pace
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  Speaker 6: the practice a lot better this week, so I can
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  Speaker 6: we can say that they they they checked off that
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  Speaker 6: box for me this week. I love the fact that
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  Speaker 6: they were splitting up into both fields and running seven
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  Speaker 6: on seven simultaneously. That's all I was asking for last week,
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  Speaker 6: was you want to get your Koey Brissett ready to
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  Speaker 6: be the starter. That's perfectly fine. I think we all
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  Speaker 6: see that that that's the path that they're going down.
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  Speaker 6: But you still need to find work for Drake May
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  Speaker 6: during that time of practice, and you can't just be
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  Speaker 6: standing around doing nothing. And I thought yesterday they did
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  Speaker 6: a better job of splitting up the squads into both
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  Speaker 6: fields and running things simultaneously and mixing in Drake May.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing. As they have more practices, they pick up the pace.
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  Speaker 8: Who would have thought not Evan last week apparently we
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  Speaker 8: had to do a show they needed more practices to
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  Speaker 8: get to the point where they were yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they should have come in when they were allowed to. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: all right, anyway, well what you're the only one allowed
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  Speaker 5: to be snarky. But again, I'm sure they had valid
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  Speaker 5: reasons not to come in that week.
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  Speaker 6: But anyway, anyway, Yeah, that was my my I know,
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  Speaker 6: that was my big take last week. So that but
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  Speaker 6: my my other takeaway from yesterday, And this is way
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  Speaker 6: knee jerk and way too probably reactionary to one practice.
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  Speaker 6: But I feel like if that what we saw yesterday
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  Speaker 6: from Drake May is the baseline, then I just I
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  Speaker 6: don't see how he's gonna stay off the field for
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  Speaker 6: very long once we get to the regular season. Now,
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  Speaker 6: if that was a really good Drake May practice in
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  Speaker 6: the day before, he threw six picks and we just
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  Speaker 6: didn't see it happened because we weren't there, and that's
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  Speaker 6: a different story. But if we just keep on seeing
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  Speaker 6: him practice like that and that's how it looks when
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  Speaker 6: he's throwing the ball, then I don't know how how
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  Speaker 6: are we going to convince ourselves that they should be
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  Speaker 6: riding the Jacobi Brissett train. And I say they won't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll need to convince themselves. They'll
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  Speaker 2: just make the common sense decision.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I kind of.
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  Speaker 8: I mean I didn't go quite that far, but I mean,
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  Speaker 8: hear what I've been saying, And I think my just
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  Speaker 8: general feeling is just I'm excited about Drake May.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
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  Speaker 8: It wasn't you know, I mean, he made some place yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: It wasn't anything you know, overwhelming, but it's just there.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone glombed down to the no look pass.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Well yeah, I mean and that, you know, we kind
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  Speaker 8: of I kind of joked about that when it happened, like, oh,
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  Speaker 8: you know, because those kind of things are you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, so overrated these days because you just said wants.
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  Speaker 5: But now we have a guy that, yeah, I could anymore, right,
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  Speaker 5: you know, but I couldn't.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 8: There's a couple throws and you know, he had a
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  Speaker 8: little bit of a rough start and he bounced back
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  Speaker 8: and YadA, YadA, YadA. Without getting into like the details
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  Speaker 8: of breaking down every play that he made, I'm just
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  Speaker 8: excited to have this kid.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's got all the talent, you know, he
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  Speaker 1: just he's athletic.
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  Speaker 2: You see him throwing on the mass. I let's just
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  Speaker 2: stick on that athletic party. Would you say that going
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  Speaker 2: back to mac Jones's first practices that we saw him,
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't doing what May is doing now. No, And
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  Speaker 2: that's and that's I mean, is that because they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want him to do or he could No, it's just.
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  Speaker 8: Be he couldn't. He's not that guy.
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  Speaker 5: He's not.
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  Speaker 8: He's not six foot four two twenty super athletic and
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  Speaker 8: you know, looks great on the move. And again, like
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  Speaker 8: I just I go back to where I was, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a couple years over the last couple of years, when
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  Speaker 8: you just I looked at Josh Allen and Justin Herbert
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  Speaker 8: and those kind of players that just had so much
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  Speaker 8: potential and it just changes the franchise. And I don't
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  Speaker 8: know if if either of those guys is ever going
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  Speaker 8: to win a Super Bowl. I don't know if Drake
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  Speaker 8: May is gonna win.
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  Speaker 5: A Super Bowl. But I'm just excited to watch this kid.
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  Speaker 8: I think, you know, we've seen a little bit of
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  Speaker 8: progress from him. It wasn't that I was oh my god,
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  Speaker 8: every single thing he did, like he's still a rookie.
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  Speaker 8: He's twenty one it's he's developing. I'm not gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 8: come in here and tell you that he's already ready.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, I mean Evan, Evan did take it
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  Speaker 8: a little bit step farther than I did of keeping
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  Speaker 8: him off the field. But I hope that he's right
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  Speaker 8: because I think you just have you have that guy now,
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  Speaker 8: and all this time we spend talking about the offensive
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  Speaker 8: line and they don't have a number one, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 8: You've got a quarterback with some potential now, and that
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  Speaker 8: should feed the rest of the energy around the team.
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  Speaker 8: So that that's just I just like last night, I
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  Speaker 8: was like, you know, and everybody, you know, you see
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  Speaker 8: everybody talking about it and weighing in, and you know,
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  Speaker 8: everybody kind of sees the same things. But I just
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  Speaker 8: think the general takeaway from a couple of practices is
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  Speaker 8: that this kid looks like a third overall pick.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna go, but I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to watch him.
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  Speaker 5: Paul, Yeah, I have the similar, similar kind of excitement
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  Speaker 5: because of just the player himself, you know, with with
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  Speaker 5: Drake may and one of the things that you know,
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  Speaker 5: like we were just sitting there, Mike and I and
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  Speaker 5: ben Volan from the Globe, you know who. He interrupted
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  Speaker 5: us a lot, but Mike and I were very very
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  Speaker 5: deep into what Jaws talker. We got interrupted a couple
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  Speaker 5: of times, but he just said. He goes Paulli poly
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  Speaker 5: over under on Drake May starts and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know three and a half and he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 5: it's gonna way over that at least eight or nine,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, I turned into Mike. I
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  Speaker 5: turned into the stand right now. I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 5: here for that, like eight or nine starts, like I
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  Speaker 5: would be thrilled if he plays that many games, And
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  Speaker 5: there is I think, just an inherent enthusiasm about the
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  Speaker 5: idea of the third overall pick with the size, strength
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  Speaker 5: and athleticism that he has. Now, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 5: get lost in what I saw, Like I just I
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  Speaker 5: kind of felt like I was catching up yesterday because
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  Speaker 5: I hadn't seen the first two practices. I think Evyan
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  Speaker 5: kind of lowered my expectations a little bit for the way,
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  Speaker 5: and I was pleasantly surprised. I thought there was sort
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  Speaker 5: of a crispness to the practice, like there was movement,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like just like with when Bill was here,
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  Speaker 5: there was an efficiency of from station to station, the
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  Speaker 5: buger's sounding, there's not a lot of standing around. There
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  Speaker 5: wasn't a lot of wasted time I didn't notice. So
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  Speaker 5: those are little things like procedural that I was kind
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  Speaker 5: of keeping an eye on. And then with new guys
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  Speaker 5: I was trying to watch. And the one guy who
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  Speaker 5: stood out to me in terms of just his movement,
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  Speaker 5: you know, athleticism, quickness was Javon Baker, who kind of
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  Speaker 5: flashed a little bit to me. And again I'm not
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  Speaker 5: talking about plays. I leave that to the experts that
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  Speaker 5: chart the stats.
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  Speaker 10: I do not.
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  Speaker 5: I could not tell you how many catches Javon Baker
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  Speaker 5: had yesterday. I'm just talking about watching him in drills.
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  Speaker 5: Watching him move seems very fluid. I thought he showed
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  Speaker 5: maybe a little more speed that I was expecting. He
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  Speaker 5: looked faster on the field than I thought he was. Maybe,
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  Speaker 5: so he's maybe maybe one of those guys that plays
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  Speaker 5: faster than his time. You know, we'll see. I mean again,
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  Speaker 5: no pads know nothing, but that was one thing that
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  Speaker 5: I was excited about.
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  Speaker 8: That was the same kind of feeling I had last
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  Speaker 8: week's practice where the first time we watched him, I
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  Speaker 8: didntals see, but I kind of felt the same thing
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  Speaker 8: last practice and into this practice, and he's another one
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  Speaker 8: where I just I want to see him.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see the pads come on, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's like the.
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  Speaker 8: Thing we always talking about, like I can't wait for
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  Speaker 8: otis and then I can't wait for training camp.
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  Speaker 5: So in that regard, like on the flip side, fred
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  Speaker 5: I didn't get much of a vibe from Jalen Polk.
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  Speaker 5: Now again, for him, I think he might be a
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  Speaker 5: guy who will look better in pads. Yeah, sure, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. So I don't want to get lost.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe Baker doesn't look quite as explosive in pads. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: Polk's sort of physicality can shine through a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more in pads. But he kind of noticed the difference
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  Speaker 5: between him and Yeah, some of these other guys that
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  Speaker 5: I had to scourty of the roster to figure out
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  Speaker 5: who they were.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's not going to move like exceptionally well,
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  Speaker 6: like that's just not his game. And I just go
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  Speaker 6: back to some of the other guys that we've watched,
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  Speaker 6: Jacobe Kendrick Bourne, Like those guys don't typically have big springs,
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  Speaker 6: even really big training camps. In Kendrick Bourne's case, Like
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  Speaker 6: there's times with cren Nick Bourne, we go a week
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  Speaker 6: and we're like where it's Kendrick Born, you know, like
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  Speaker 6: he doesn't really he's not a train what happens during
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  Speaker 6: the season, that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: He's not a training camp. He has great games, yes,
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  Speaker 5: and then he's quiet for two games. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: just that's but you know what that's kind of Kendrick Bourne. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so he's he's not necessarily a training camp guy either.
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  Speaker 5: I think those guys are. It shows more in real
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  Speaker 5: game settings. And and Baker, I think is should be
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  Speaker 5: a specimen this time of year. I know he didn't
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  Speaker 5: run very fast in the forty but he is a big,
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  Speaker 5: explosive athlete. You know, a guy that was a highly
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  Speaker 5: recruited player goes to Alabama, you know, like he's that's
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  Speaker 5: what he is, you know, that's what he looked like
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  Speaker 5: to me yesterday. First impression.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also would say Thornton. Throw Thornton in
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  Speaker 1: that mix up.
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  Speaker 8: Want to see the pads on because again looks great
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  Speaker 8: running around seven on seven, but when guys are getting
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  Speaker 8: their hands on him, and still if.
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  Speaker 2: You'd never seen Thornton before and somebody says, fine, find
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  Speaker 2: the skinny guy that's Thornton, you'd have no trouble because
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  Speaker 2: he's so And.
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  Speaker 6: I say he was much bigger right right, like he's
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  Speaker 6: he's in his upper body. I think he's a little
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  Speaker 6: he's a little bit like wider, like his shoulders, so
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  Speaker 6: a little bit bigger. I'm not saying it's like he's
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  Speaker 6: transformed his body.
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  Speaker 2: But that's good because some of his injuries have been
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  Speaker 2: upper box.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say he's a little bit wider, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like he's a little bit stockier.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe they're building some muscle around him.
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  Speaker 5: I would also say, in his defense, I think he's
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  Speaker 5: looked pretty good in practice. But this is this is
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  Speaker 5: his third camp, now come, you know, getting ready for it.
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  Speaker 5: I thought he had a pretty good training camp as
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  Speaker 5: a rookie, and I thought he showed flashes, not as
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he was as good last year as
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  Speaker 5: he was as a rookie training camp, but he showed flashes.
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  Speaker 5: And then when you guys went to Green Bay, he
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  Speaker 5: was pretty good until he got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Right like the play I think so was there, don't
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  Speaker 1: you were the offense.
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  Speaker 6: He he caught like a forty yard deep ball, landed
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  Speaker 6: on his shoulder and separated his shoulder and that was it,
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  Speaker 6: right or or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, Yeah, I mean I think he'll make things a
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  Speaker 8: little bit more complicated if he's he's able, because he
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  Speaker 8: certainly has you know, the long speed.
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  Speaker 1: But I just I don't know, just watching practice, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really a big fan.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it just it just seems's skinny.
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  Speaker 5: Mike's not going to let himself get hurt again now
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  Speaker 5: I was protecting.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I I understand it.
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  Speaker 8: But even even with the speed, there's just a certain
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  Speaker 8: lack of physicality with him.
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  Speaker 2: The current status, you'd still be open to bringing in
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  Speaker 2: a veteran wide receiver, you know, I'll just throw out
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  Speaker 2: the name T Higgins, like somebody somebody of that ilk.
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  Speaker 5: He would still be an alpha, like a number, like
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  Speaker 5: a big, big time player.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, and yeah on that level sure, But like I
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't bring in just another guy. I think they got
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  Speaker 6: plenty of guys.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, guy who from day one is your course?
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  Speaker 8: Wr you just you know, you just wonder is that
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  Speaker 8: the move for next year? You know, is that you know,
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  Speaker 8: get get get, they'll go out and make that move.
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  Speaker 5: At this stage. Probably, Yes, they tried to do it
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  Speaker 5: with Calvin Ridley, Yeah, but they weren't able to do it.
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  Speaker 5: So but maybe just wait till next year.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say.
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  Speaker 8: Even still though, even if they got Ridley, like I
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  Speaker 8: think we might still kind of be saying that a
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  Speaker 8: little bit. You know, it would be Ridley be a
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  Speaker 8: really nice compliment. But again I'd still want, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a guy like ayuk Or or Higgins that could play
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  Speaker 8: on the outside. But I just I don't know how
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  Speaker 8: it's all going to play out. Juju's out there, he's
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  Speaker 8: you know, he looks fine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't really thought.
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  Speaker 5: I thought he was moving around pretty well, made a
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  Speaker 5: couple of catches. Maybe he did one in particular that
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  Speaker 5: I remember, yep.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, So I don't know how it's all going to
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  Speaker 8: play out, like yeah kind of.
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  Speaker 2: So in terms of the number of reps, was it
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  Speaker 2: evenly split or did May have significantly less than zappi
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  Speaker 2: inset it.
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  Speaker 6: Was Brissette was tilted towards Brissett, and then May got
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  Speaker 6: a ton of seven on seven work that Zappie didn't
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  Speaker 6: get and then eleven on eleven's it was Prisette, Zappi, Brissette, May, Brissette,
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  Speaker 6: Zach Like they did it that way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So seven on sevens I think Zappi and Brissett
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  Speaker 5: were together, yes, and May was by himself. So that's
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  Speaker 5: why May made up for some of the reps that
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  Speaker 5: he didn't get eleven on eleven with the sevens.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought his seven on seven session for Drake May,
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  Speaker 6: he was he was a little bit on fire at
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  Speaker 6: some points, like he was, he was throwing.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: You're getting people excited, You're getting all your minions excited.
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: It's not even So. Now I'm going to make a
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: prediction for the next hour and forty five minutes, there's
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of positive Evan calls today.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, we want to hear from you.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Last week he wasn't doing it right. This week, I'm
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: going to guess that he's doing it right.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Who are you to say he looked good.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: He was a little in fuego.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Not gonna lie, you know what.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: I challenge our listeners to have someone call in and
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: ask him who he thinks he is saying that that
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: he was.
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: On fire, What does that mean, come on a little bit.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the encouraging part you ever played quarterback before.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: You even know what they're supposed to do.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: I think the encouraging part, though, is that if you
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: listen to the naysayers, the people that didn't like Drake
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: May in the draft, it was he's broken mechanically. His
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: footwork's a mess, his accuracies all over the place, and
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: that I get it that we're not in pads. Is
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: not a live pass rush, all the caveats you can
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: put on it, but he does not look as a
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: broken player mechanically that people are claiming that he was.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: And his accuracy, I mean, he's putting the ball where
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: the ball needs to go, like is it perfect every
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: single time. There's a couple of throws that I thought
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: he got kind of caught between clubs a little bit,
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: like he wasn't sure if he should throw it, you know,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: over the shoulder, back shoulder or whatever, and kind of
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: got him stuck in between. But it's not like he's
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: air milling the ball ten yards over guy's heads, like
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: the ball is catchable, and that I think is the
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: most encouraging thing. Not necessarily like no look past and
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: like all these throws that I could point to that
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: he made that we're good. It's more so that he
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: looks like he's on time. He's got a rhythm to him,
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: and he's accurate.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Because we've seen both. We've seen the ultimate accuracy in
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady and I remember when the Browns do. We
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: have a joint with the Browns one year in Baker
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Mayfield Panthers, Panthers and may feel look terrible like he
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: was all over the place. Obviously, we've seen t bow
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: in cam so we've seen the rains, so you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: we have something to gauge on when we judge accuracy
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: in a practice.
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, mostly from the last few years, which, yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: you guys were spoiled. You were just watching Brady fling
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: it around.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: The ball never hit the ground ever, you know.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: And now it's now we're getting like he was twelve
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: or fourteen and seven on seven, so it almost never
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: hit the ground.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, let's face it, they're not should you know.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: There was the one defensive player that I noticed yesterday
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: was a penalty on Alex Austen and he broke up
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: a pass that he just grabbed the shirt jumped and
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: knocked the path. Otherwise the ball never would have hit
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: the ground. Bat ball actually might not have either. I
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: think that got paid. I think it got picked off
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: by Hawkins thirty two. So Hawkins is crat. Mike made
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: a good observation on Jalen Hawkins yesterday. We got to
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: that later. That's a little minutia. But I think you
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: might be onto something. Manuia to me, No, well, that's
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: also I think you're onto something.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That's also something that in the past we've picked up
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: on early, like h this unknown cornerback. They seem to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: be matching up with, you know, some of the top
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: flight receivers on the team. Maybe they see something any
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: of that. Alex Austin for sure gets a lot of reps.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: H they're getting.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're given a lot of the younger guys. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: mean it's Jonathan Jones wasn't dressed yesterday. But even with Gonzo,
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: they they were running with Austin for a little bit,
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: but then he was out and yeah, I think it
• 17:50
  Speaker 8: was Marco Marco Wilson and like, but you know, we
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: had to talk to the defensive coaches too, and talked
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: to Mike Pelgrino nobody was talking went over and I
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: wasn't like, I'm not even right about my what's going.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: On about the national championships and lacrosse?
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Oh I should have I want to save that one
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: because I got to bring up I'll bring up Braden's
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: lacrosse and see what he thinks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: But probably shouldn't do that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I've talked to him.
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: I know, I'm surprised he didn't bring it up. People
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: don't know, but you know, I it's you know, it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: always weird, like when you're talking to the coaches and
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: you're like, well, here's my view of it. But but
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: he said, you know, I think we got a lot
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: of a lot of really good depth. And I just said,
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: you know, from my point of view, and I've said
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: it on the show, it's just, you know, it seems
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: like you've got opportunities in the slot and then really
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: finding the third guy.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know how it goes here,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: we got we got a lot of depth.
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: We're gonna we're gonna need a lot of these guys.
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: So he seems he always seems pretty encouraged by his guys.
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: That's that's kind of his m O.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: But but I do think there are some opportunities there
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: And I would say from bouncing around to a handful
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: of the defensive assistant yesterday, I didn't hear it from
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: pell Agrino, but I would say that was the My
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: takeaway from all of them was there was you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: it's like the newness Fred, It's like early you know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: like back. Everybody's sort of refreshed and ready to go.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: And I think there is sort of a lot of
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: these guys, you know, Pelaguino's not one of them, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of these guys it's new for them. Yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: so they are sort of fresh and excited and full
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: of hope.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: I also would say just a little tip to Evan
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: who highlighted saying, you know, Brian Belichick's going.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: To talk today, that's probably And I was like, yeah,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: good idea.
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: So you know, I wrote up Brian, which which got
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: you know a little bit a little bit of traction,
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: but it was, you know, good write up.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I think like it was just good to hear from him,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's a good kid.
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: I don't know, he just seems like he's always bringing
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: up his wife and his kid and you know, his
• 19:36
  Speaker 8: personal life and how much how important.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: That is to him.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: But I thought he did a good job, you know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: And it was also weird seeing Steve there yesterday too,
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: So it just feels like it's.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Thawing a little bit.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Came to visit all the you know, all the just like, oh,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: These two camps, like it just doesn't It feels like
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: people are realizing, like, you know, there was going to
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: be a period after the last few years that everybody
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: kind of was pissed at Bill. But I think we're
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: all kind of coming around, and personally, it's just it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: it's cool that Brian's still here. It's cool that there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: still a Belichick in the building, and you know, you
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: really you're starting to get that historical perspective of what
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: Bill did here for whatever it was twenty three years.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, that's just it's it's as he said,
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: I think the uh, you know, the standard was established
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: here and and that's what they're trying to get back to.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: So I'm glad that we're getting back to a point
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: where we can you know, dismiss with all the you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: controversies and all the things that happened and just kind
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: of appreciate Bill Belichick.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Patty Chung in the house yesterday.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Patty Chung. Okay, Paddy Chung. And I've in fears of course,
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: just yet.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I can't kick him.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: I'd want to.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: But some people they retire, they go down to the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: neighborhood coffee shop and hang out. You know. He comes
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to the practice.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: So I didn't see him. Will you with me? When
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I was was I was kind of like busting those
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: balls a little bit in the tunnel, probably like two
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: weeks ago. He's walking, he's walking back from the field.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: I go, you know, I don't think you understand how
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: this is supposed to work. He just started laughing. I go,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: you gotta leave, know right, like you need to go fishing, right.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You know, he's got golf.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I know his wife wants to be funny.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: He's here. Where are you going here all the time?
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Go back to the stadium.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: You know, you just always see him kind of with
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that little amble that he's got.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: But good, good, good guy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I was surprised though, to see to see Steve pop up.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: We weren't sure it was.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I was a little surprised to see him, yeah, because
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: it was funny because I said, I go, it looks
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: just like Steve Belichick. I said it to Mike, like
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: I thought you were kidding, And I'm like, oh, I said,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: that looks just like Steve Belichick. Well, I mean, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I do think he looked like he put on a.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Little weight that or he has got the ponytail, he
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: had extra extra hoodie, he had some layers. Oni No,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: I like, he looked just like And I was, like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: I said to Mike, it was like right away in practice,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: like five minutes into pricice that Belichick.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Then like ten minutes last like, I think that's Steve Belichick.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: We're pretty sure Bill will be here for Brady Day.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: You know. I can oh, he wouldn't miss that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Percentages that he will show up for a training camp.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Bill and Paul talked about that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: I think, so I bet he does.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: I bet he does see I don't think he'll be
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: on the field so people see him. I think percentages that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Do you remember this thing like last week where Mayo
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: told some people that Tony Dungee was here. He actually
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: talked about it a little, Yes, addressed the team now
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: eliminate the Mayo told everybody that Bill Belichick was here part.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if Bill came in and saw
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: the team talk to the team behind the you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes. That wouldn't I'm not telling you it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: going to happen in year one, but I wouldn't be
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: stunned to hear that news. I would be stunned if
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Bill was okay with Gerard talking about it. I don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: think that would happen. And I'm not sure that we'd
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: see him at practice because now everybody sees him, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: I don't think he wants that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I put it at zero zero, not because there's
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: any like animosity between those two guys, but you got
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: to put some separation, like you can't if he's starting different,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Like if you start like Bill starts coming around practic
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: this and stuff like that, Like just.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Now you make it like, yeah, I'm just talking about one.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about one day.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: No, I know, but I just I don't think that
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: not this year. Yeah, maybe maybe like in the future
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: of Drod has some success, like and you know, the
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: thing is starting to point in the right direction.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, I just like I could never see it
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: happening the way these things have happened so far where
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: they've been so public, right, I could never see that,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: like in other words, it could happen, we would never
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: find out about it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: But I I like the fact that Steve feels comfortable coming.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I think he should be welcome. Yeah, of course it
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: seems like job.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it seems like he had a few
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Washington staffers with him, so maybe he wanted to like
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: show them the NFL practice and you know that sort
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: of thing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: So left the meadowlands. Oh no, sorry, that was that
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: was snarky Fred again.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right? Eight five five paths five hundred.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Is the a stick and outline web radio at Patriots
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: dot com? Is it mail address? Anything else? Patriots wise?
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's always like little nuggets that I feel
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: like I jot down that probably might or may not
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: be interested to anybody.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: But produces dimebag.
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: Deuce's dimebag didn't happen yesterday. But you know, I just
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: I would say Juju Douglas and uh and Thornton and
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Osborne kind of with the top group, you know, rookies,
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: notok Hall of.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Fame group, not the Hall of Fame group anymore. When
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Gronk and Moss.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: And was separate thing with just Brady when like they
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: were doing special teams right Like Brady was like me,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: he had no time.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: For it was like this is the witch.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: Veterans can actually play group, but you know, just for
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: people for for people wondering, you know, or always.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Polk and Baker in the mix with the not yet.
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: Really so that's one thing. It's you know, it's good,
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: they're gonna make fun of it. But I I just
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: I like seeing Drake may work with Polk and Baker.
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: After every practice they seem like they're out there having
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: a great Baker.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Fun of that. Everybody records like breathlessly on Twitter every
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: time it happens. No, like it does numbers.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So no, I just said that, you know, those are
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the kind of things that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: Not that they're doing it to be showy, but I
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: feel like people use that almost like the no Look past,
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: as examples of well that was cool, this must be great, right,
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: and it's like cool things don't necessarily make me quality.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, they want to have as much time together
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: as possible to get it. But like I remember when
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the Texans were here for uh or, I don't know
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: if they were here, or it was just reporting on
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the practice. JJ Watt would stay after practice with the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: tire and like just myself doing those things.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Performative, and you know he was a little that way.
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: You know, I don't think this is performance certainly, whether
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: there was no no so one of the best NFL
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: the only one, just one of the best NFL defensive
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: linement of all time was performative.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: But the rookie is working with the rookie receivers.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Does he does he really have to stay after practice
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to like turnver?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe that's why it's gonna be a first ballot.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I know you.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: I just I would just separate the like the sort
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: of insufferable personality that you probably don't like with him
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: and actually working hard and being a good player.
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, well sometimes it was it was on hard
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: knocks what we're talking about.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: And and I will I agree with you, but I
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: think they made him do it again, you think to
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: film it with it like I think they might have
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: missed it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: So it was like it was like the sun was
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: setting that that's going anywhere to go? Do you remember
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the Tim Tebow stuff like when he was with the Jets,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: and he'd have like you know, the you know, the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: span dex top on and it be raining and he's
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: running like it's like on a like a Danielle Still
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: novel from like you know, Fabio days.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Right, the winds blowing is much hair. But you know
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: what I mean, I know what you exactly what you mean.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It was very dramatic.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Dramatic is a good word, dramatic. But I do like it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I do like that he's trying to form some time.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I like our drama.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I like our drama.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I like it just it's useful drama.
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but it makes forget no, it makes
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: for It could actually help them, it makes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: For great you know.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: The final tweet Mike Reese, like you know, twenty minutes
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: after practice, you know, like those kind of scene center
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: right right.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I don't like this.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I don't like that Mike is off limits for the
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: rest of the media bashing. We do not do that toshing.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: I tease Mike for that stuff all the time.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Is Mike still reporting on the music being played?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Or Oh, that's a good question. I haven't seen it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: You can't step into that territory or the people will
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: come after.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: You, I know, but are like, that's Mike.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it though. No, that's a good question.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I wonder if he's a go's some rolling Stones yesterday?
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know they are. Of course, they're here
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: here to perform tonight.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: They usually they do that a lot, Like if there's
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: a concert, they'll play the music.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: It's a theme, yeah, a theme going.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm over sixty, so I was offered a seat
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: up front, but I'm gonna go.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've seen the Stones. You seen the Stones? Stones?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: You've never seen the Stones?
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: No, I don't see anybody you know that?
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Really? I thought you used to go to concerts.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: No, No, I've been to like two two once. You've
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: seen like both both under duress.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: If you were allowed to be live at the concert,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: but in a recliner with a remote control, would you
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: go that sounds nice?
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: I just.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I love I would never go see them in concert, Yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: some some close. I saw them after a super Bowl
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: a concert. No, No, but you're super Bowl.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It's a private their point of view, You're you're like
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: one of the band.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Though, right, And I just don't really love live music.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I know people swear by it like Matt Matt Smith,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I've had some will be staying here tonight. You know
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: it probably in the uh the AARP section that Fred
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: talked about.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But everybody's gonna be saying he.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Loves live music.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: We were, we were at how many times has he
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: seen Springsteen?
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: Oh?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: A lot thrown men about the Springsteen. Though Springsteen, they
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: have no right to make fun of the Swifties because
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: these Springsteen guys are just as bad as the teenagers.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Now, I will defend Matt a little bit. I don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: think you'd see Matt making fun of Swifties. I think
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: he understands the same along what you just talked to
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: me gets it. It's the same.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: I got some of those guys, and they're about as
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: far from like blue collar Jersey Shore as you could
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: ever get. And I'd like if there's always a discons.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Well, if you've ever covered Major League Baseball, for example,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: you're one of those guys.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Pete Abraham's been to like seventy gives you the set list.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I never got it. I mean, I like, I
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: like Bruce Springsteen. I like a couple of the songs,
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: but I you know, I don't have a.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: He just speaks to my soul.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I get to be honest, you you tease me about that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: I kind of I'm jealous of that that it doesn't
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: speak to me in that way. I don't hear this, Yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: and you know, in this desire to hear it live
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: and listening to Jimmy just here.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: Yes, you can't hear Jimmy's perfectly.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I've been to a Springsteen concert with one of those people,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: me too, and it's it's it's more a revival than
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a concert. Like everybody in the whole place. This is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that the TV Garden is singing every song like it's
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: it's a revival. It's not, you know, it's like a
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: community type of feeling. I didn't care, but I.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: When were you in New Jersey?
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Like you didn't you live in Jersey for a bit?
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Like it was when did a New Jersey team win
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: the title? Yeah, sixty nine.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I moved out of New Jersey? What was it seventy two?
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: All right, so a little bit before he was kind
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: of coming in. Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Now, no, I saw I saw Bruce in Jersey, which
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: is with some of those people, And.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: This wasn't like a Bruce specific thing. I'm just jealous
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: of the people that feel that, like they that the
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: entered Mike Reese. Back back to Mike Mike Reese to
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: see all different kinds of people, very eclectic music taste
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: seventy four. He loves the live aspect of the music
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: and he just appreciates you saw the musicians and you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: the ambiance, the atmosphere. It's lost on me. I'm kind
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: of jealous about like, I don't I know, you make
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: fun of me all the time. I literally I went
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: to a Journey concert when I was in college my
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: freshman year of college, only because everybody was going and
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I had nothing else to do, and I was like,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: all right, I'll go. It was a free ticket, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: under duress, I had to go see the Dave Matthews
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: band because my girlfriend loved Dave Matthews and she made
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: me go Oh's and that led to the and that
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: was the beginning of the end of that marching live
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Oh that he's great live.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: I mean again, I'm jealous of it that someone could
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: not actually hear that and say, oh, that would be
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: great if you're at.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: A concert where you like the music and you and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you have good seats Yeah, it's it's fun.
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: I would say eighty percent of the concerts I'd go to.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: By the time I'm there, I'm like, I can't wait
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: to get out of here. There's a small number of them,
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: Like there was one I saw at the Greek Theater,
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: which is awesome, sat thing, but that was it, like
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: good seats, sat down, not crowded, good music did wasn't
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: like crowded by tons of people and mosh pits and
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: all that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's rare.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't cat it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: I'm the same way you are. Probably I wish I
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: wish I could go to a concert meeting. This is
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: an amazing experience with most of them. Kind of like, man,
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: I'm a concert guy. I've seen a lot of concerts,
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: music festivals, not as music festivals. I've retired from Newport
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: Jazz Festival.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, I've retired from that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: They can't do music festivals anymore. That was my my
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: younger years.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Lollapalooza.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I saw a Lollapaloozer too.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's great Woods.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It is fun.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: So it's great Woods.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: All right. So back to football. So Mike had a point,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: what's on's the next open?
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: Practice Tuesday, Tuesday, which will affect our show.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: He's the fourth.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, it's the fourth.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna have to We'll probably start the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: show late that day so that we can come right
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: off the field and talk about.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: There you go talk about it, see some progression.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: So, speaking of things that we just talked about, I
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: thought Mike brought up a good point. Ev and I
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: didn't touch base with you on this.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: To see if you have watched practice separately, Yes.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: But I think sometimes you get different perspectives when you
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: do that. The Jalen Hawkins guy, now he's not a
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: you know, a young guy. He's not. He's like a
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: fifty year guy. He's been been in the league a
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: little bit. There's a lot of talk not I mean
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: not a ton, but some talk about still searching for
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: that mccordy type free safety, and it looks like he
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: might be getting some opportunities to fill that kind of
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: wearing thirty two. Yeah, that's how this all started because
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: we actually, Mike and I determined that he's actually wearing
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Devin mccordy shirt.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: They didn't even watch it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I hate that even more. It's actually the same thing.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I think I have a problem with this.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Granted it's ninety man roster, it's it's it's OTAs. They
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: have to hand out numbers to everybody.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I get it. Nobody should be wearing thirty.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Two or eighty seven. Okay, well Fred, they should be
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: wearing proceeds. Yeah, I mean come on, like, where do
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you draw the line?
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: I mean draw the line. There's only one number that
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: should never be won, twelve.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: Anyway we're speaking up, I should be yesterday.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying you have to retire it.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I'm officially yeah, maybe seventy six, seventy two, what was Hannah,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: seventy three, seventy three.
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: No, we were doing attendance yesterday and Paul's you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: calling out numbers, and I was like, yeah, I just I.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Just don't see twelve out there yet, like making the joke.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: And yeah, and I go, we have I go, they
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: gave twelve? Weelve?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Who's twelve?
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Like that's how little did you see twelve? O them?
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I said it like four times. I literally
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: said it four times. And I was like, they didn't
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: go out twelve.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And then you like the look on your faces like
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: oh you playing me like that, guy roll A Fred,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I don't like.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: I don't like you got eighty seven either.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Just for the record, Yeah, I don't know that one.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: But is there ever going to be a time where
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: you were allowed to do that? Like twelve? I get yeah,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm over it. I'm forty. I mean love Devin. Yeah,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: at least it didn't even played last year.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: It's to me, Devin McCarty is bigger than football. Like,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I think Devin McCarty is like one of the best
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: people that's ever walked through this building.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I think that there's and he's recognized
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: as such.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: I think that in other sports that would be recognized
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: even bigger.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: If this is not one of your argument, no one
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: ever should be Devin mccorty. I get that, But his
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: number is different.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: That's just the way I feel.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: I just feel that his number, like I feel Devin
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: McCarty is like one of the an all time great Patriots.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no argument on that. I love.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But to me, the retiring of a number is here,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: it has to be on the pantheon, it has to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: be Mount Olympus.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Ring of honors are different. Halls of fame are different.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But when you retire a number, it should be the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: elite of the elite for the team. Yeah.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think Jalen Hawkins is gonna is gonna wear
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: thirty two in a game. I don't think that necessarily,
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: And but if he did, I'd at least like to
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: hope that he would like call Devid and be like, hey,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: is it cool?
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: If I were you, this is like, really, this is
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: really getting fre it. I could just see Fred's face.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I dis.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Here's what one observation though from this stuff and related
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: to numbers, they clearly have gone out of their way.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: In the past. There used to be numerous duplicate numbers,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: and it wasn't just because of the rookies in the fifties.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: There's only one set of duplicate numbers right now, twenty nine.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: There's a twenty nine offense and defense. So you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: part of that is you have to make sure that
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: someone's wearing eleven and someone's wearing thirty two. And absolutely,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: you know, I totally agree.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Whatever else, I think, I feel the same way about
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: watching who's a tight end that's wearing it? Now? No
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Will Cox we running around wearing eighty seven.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Do you think we'll ever get to the point in
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the NFL where they have triple numbers, I'm number one,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: thirty two.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Or like put a put a descipel point. Yeah, well
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: that might be thirty three point five.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That'd be hard to read.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But you just have hard work some letters and maybe
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like I'm thirty two b pi PI, yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Three point one four, I'm thirty two squared.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: Oh man.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like if people keep if Evan was
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: on GMS of these teams with all the numbers you've retired,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you'd have to get into the trouble.
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: No, no, I just think that there's a lot of teams.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I'm negative four.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of teams, like the Houston Texans are
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: not going to have a bunch of numbers retired because
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: they don't have a bunch of Hall of Fame level players.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: The Patriots are not one of those teams.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: But if you were, you were, if you were, you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Art Rooney, you wouldn't have any numbers left in the Steelers.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Could you retire them all?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I no, No, you like the Steelers.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: If we're gonna let all those guys in the Hall
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: of Fame, then wiring our guys in the Hall of Fame.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, although I say, I will say there are playing
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: some random Patriots games the last couple of days on
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: NFL Network, which I flipped onto the two thousand.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And one Space Odyssey a C Championship.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: But it's funny because like I'm like, oh, Richard Seymour
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: Hall of Famer, Tyler hall of Famer.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, just like that, you realize,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like and just like that, this is a this was
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, a lot of Yeah, there was
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of talent.
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: It was as much as you kind of wanted to
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: be like, oh, they were all right, but now in
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: perspective they are one of the all.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Time great defenses.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: And wait, which team was this?
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: Sorry one against Pittsburgh game was on, and man Cordell
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: Steort was getting frustrated, like he just I mean, I
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: like throwing those games on every once in a while
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: where you get the broadcast so you know, you get
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: the whole feel of the game, and you know, it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: not just like watching the highlights.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So I remember being at that game here at Foxborough
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and the amount of Steelers fans that were here, like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: just so confident.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: Which game is out in one against the Steelers.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: No, this on Pittsburgh, the Tory Brown and the part
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: he's talking about it regular season game.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: No, when we played them in the playoffs. Oh that
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: was ninety six, Yeah, ninety six, when we played the
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Steelers in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The amount of
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Steelers fans that were here, like and loud and proud
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and they had their you know, their steel helmet on
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and you know, the beer can on the top and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: just like, you know, this is our house.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: This is one I can't remember this because I was
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: here and it's one of my very foggy as a fan,
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: like you know, fanboy, it's one of my favorite games.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: I go all Evan on this one.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: That game, it was incredible.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I think one of the fair was wasn't one of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the first plays the bomb to Terry Glenn.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: You couldn't really see anything though, was.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but luckily that bomb came in my side. The
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: one I lost was the Curtis Martin long touchdown run.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: He ran around the end and then all of a
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: sudden we lost him and then we heard this like
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: roar from the other end of the stadium, like, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: guess he scored. It's like a seventy five yard touch.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: It's been some huge plays that you have been in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the stadium for Paul.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That you never never saw see.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but there was another game like that with the fog.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: It was like a random Thursday night game against Atlanta.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that because you'll know too is ruined.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Oh I remember, Yeah, that's right, there was there was
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: stuff that you couldn't see in that game.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I remember skycamp You had to use this.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, for a while in that game,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the only one the network could use was the skycam
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: camera because it was low enough.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Where what year was that twenty sixteen, fifteen, like somewhere
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: in that range.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was before Atlanta got pretty good. Oh, Julio Jones,
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: because Jones was there.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: It was the game after twenty was after okay, Julio Jones.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Most Malcolm Butler in that game, And I think I
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: want to say it was twenty sixteen.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I think it might be seventeen.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Was Malcolm Butler still here in seventeen? Well, Butler definitely
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: got he got beat. It was an unbelievable catch by
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: who true.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin. All right, I have a hot take
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: a number retiring. You shouldn't do it. I don't mind this.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Someone has d max number. I don't mind that someone
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: has eighty seven. In fact, I think it would be
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: cool if we have an established quarterback. They gave them
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: twelve as a rite of passage. Number traditions are way
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: cooler than retiring numbers.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: I wholeheardly agree with that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I thin fifty five they do a nine backer at USC.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: The way they do it in college, I think is
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: the right way. Forty four at Syracuse is the special number.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And they kind of have to do that because they
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: have one hundred guys on the.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Team, right, but they're actually allowed to have doubles.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was seventeen seventeen.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I obviously wholeheartedly disagree twenty three with the number retired.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, the Patriots. I mean you can beat them
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: soundly that night.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yea, you can disagree, but you're wrong, but you can.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I just you know, like I said, I'm four number retiring,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: but it has to be reserved for just you know,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the best of the best.
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I'm with you, not good guys.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I think we're on Ti guys are great. Put him
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in the Patriots Hall of Fame.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You know, we're team just twelve, right, like we just
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: will I'm.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: Not necessarily even to retire thirty two or any I'm
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: just saying, like I it's like one of those things,
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: like like Tip's number is not technically retired, but no
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: one ever wears it, right, you know, like it's just
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: like it's that sort of thing where it's just like
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: if you're gonna wear that, you're.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Sure on that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: It's a weird thing.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: It's a weird it's not in the book.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, they thought I thought it was. They stopped
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: doing it. They stopped retiring.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: At Armstrong, right. I think Tip was before that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: No, No, he was still wasn't he kind of still
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: doing something.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: I'm strong played when Belichick was here, I know.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: Tip didn't play for Belichick.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but he was. I don't think Tip's
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: number hips last year was ninety three.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: We've talked about this, Yeah, we have talked about it. Yeah,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: but he was in the scouting department for a little bit.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long that lasts.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Think it's but that has nothing to do with his numbers.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: I know, but this is a stacy question, I thinkyeah, yeah, no,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you could throw me that book.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I love.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: I'd love to get firm confirmation because we've had this
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: conversation a couple of times and there's it's seems something like.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: But I don't like maybe they're retired or don't time right,
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: And to me, the cutoff should be Hall of Fame.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like pro football Hall of Fame. The mistake
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: was made with the Sullivans. They started doing this before
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the team had ever done it.
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: If you get a number, that's right, Fred's absolutely, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: just I do agree with Fred's take on because they
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: had no they had no tradition, and they tried to
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: they tried to develop one. Like I love watching it all.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Flip through this book right now.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: This is classic. I mean, instead of just going to
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: like the table contents, which would be easier.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Googling, it never really works out when tried.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I do not trust Google at all. I don't Google.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I know that's yeah. No, no one's ever
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: worn fifty six ince tip.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone's just afraid of them.
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: That hasn't even been retired.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to tell them it's not retired.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Eight should be retired by five past five hundred.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a good time to open it up to
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: our listeners. Alan is in Chicago. What's up, Allen? Alan?
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: I'm just not there.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to get the new phone system. What's the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: timetable on that? Matt Morrell just.
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: Got the last letters of authorization for our international numbers
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: put into John o'holler and up top.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, and then once we have that, how long it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Should be up after that?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: As soon as vonage processes of that, So like in
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: ten minutes or.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: And I mean I don't know.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: I'll have long vanage takes.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: It could be ten minutes, it'll be twenty days, all right, Okay,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: so so.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: It might be the end of the show it's inmin it,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: but maybe not till camp right.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Okay, the paperwork has officially been filled out, all of it,
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: all right?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Triplicate can't wait?
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Nice?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So when that happens, do we get a new contract
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: system or how does that work?
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll have a new screener in there, a new screener.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I have to learn that it's just a mouse. Still,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I still make mistakes. Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Eldred bigg Day?
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: All right, all right?
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: It says on on for whatever it's worth on the
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Internet that fifty six is retired, but doesn't say when.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: But Bruce Armstrong it doesn't say when either, and Fred
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: and I were there when that happened, because that was
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: a mistake. Yeah, well I grew.
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: I grew. Brady number should be repaired or retire. Excuse me,
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: because he's the best of the best ever. I gotta
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: just greet you by mc cordy.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry if I'm not saying you should be retiring.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: I've said this multiple times. I've said I don't want
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: it in circulation.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: We yeah, wearing it. Yeah, that's it. You don't need
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to do the whole ceremony. It's fine.
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: He's one of the guys, one of the guys. He's
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: not the Joe like like Brady would. I gotta disagree
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: is a degree, okay, But Paul, you'll take earlier about
• 45:52
  Speaker 13: all the positive you know, people gonna change mine mind
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: still will be the same, because in short, wait till
• 45:59
  Speaker 13: the past, when the Buddhist plot.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, I was just talking about Evan liked the practice today.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Last week he got a lot of static because he
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: didn't like the practice, didn't care he wasn't doing he
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: wasn't doing it right last week.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: This week he is.
• 46:11
  Speaker 13: I agree with him. Last week, I agree with the
• 46:13
  Speaker 13: same thing. You got ninety players. Let nobody stand around.
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: They got to do throw, you know, especially him because
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: he needs some work. But if you come out like
• 46:20
  Speaker 13: I told Evan the other day, if you come out
• 46:23
  Speaker 13: like ever, say what, I'd be the first to get
• 46:24
  Speaker 13: my personal apology, be the first to do it. But
• 46:28
  Speaker 13: if he does it my way, I want the same
• 46:31
  Speaker 13: thing in return.
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: But it is I did.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: But I'm more.
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: Interested in the wide receivers. Heard just this something about
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: Pope and Baker. So what about uh the other guy
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: they got Osborne, And I ain't worry about Pop Pop
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: Pop showed me something last.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Year Osborne about Osborne?
• 46:51
  Speaker 13: How they do?
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: I think he looks I was born, was fine and drills,
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: But I haven't really seen him too much in any
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: of the on the team sessions.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: We've talked about the guys that have catched.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's been kind of invisible to.
• 47:04
  Speaker 12: Me so far.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of the guys that
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: I would just put in the same bucket that just
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: kind of looked all the same, and not necessarily in
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: a super positive way. I think kJ Osborne, Juju, you know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: some of the guys that are really fighting for roster
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: spots that are probably not going to make this team
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: practice squad guys, I mean obviously, Like I just think that,
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: you know, like I said earlier when Fred asked about
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: how you can see Higgins right now, the Patriots got
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: a lot of bodies at receiver. I don't know if
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: anybody has really separated themselves as like, oh, that's that's
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: the top flight NFL receiver.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Not that necessarily we expected that.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, say what we will about Juju.
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: At least he looks different and he has a little
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: bit of, you know, some different elements to his game
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: than those guys who you and I think.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Pop in that in that group. He
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: moves pretty well, He's he stood out to me, Yeah, is.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: He still standing out? But now I haven't. I haven't
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: any movie made a great catch from Would you come
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: if the season started today? Who would be your slot receiver.
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: Pop, Yeah, I mean if it started today, it'd probably
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: be Thornton and Juju.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: And would you be disappointed by that that no one
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: was better than Douglas in the slot? Yeah?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how big of a slot really has.
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think if he's a pure slot receiver
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: and he comes down, you know, comes in specific place,
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: if he's in every you know, if he's playing like
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: sixty six percent.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: When I when I think of slot, I think of
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: that binky chain mover, you know, dependable on third down,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: a guy that gets a lot of catches.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, would you be disappointed if it was him.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: No, I'd be'd be great. I don't care who it is.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I just hope we have one.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: I would hope that we have one better than that.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I I don't know.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not disagreeing with anything the boys said.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: And I was going to say they have three practices
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: to go on. I only have one, So I'm not
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: disagreeing with any of the assessments. I was hoping kJ
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Osborne as an example, was going to be markedly better
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: than to Mario Douglas. Oh No, and I you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know yet. Well, I was hoping
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: he's an NFL player. Pop Douglas is an NFL player.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see, we saw.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to what I always say, Paul, you'll
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: make fun of me. If Pop Douglas ends up being
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the slot receiver, then I'm okay with it because the
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: coaches will know they you know, they know what they're doing,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean I get what Paul's kind of getting
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: out though, and like I would, I would kind of
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: make this comparison, like.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I like Pop as Danny A. Mondola. I don't want
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: him as Julian Edelman if that makes sense.
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: Well that's what he gets me, so well, like I'm
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: not willing to do. Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Amandola was obviously clutch, good player, really good, but he
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: wasn't a slot in my mind, he wasn't the slot
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: receiver that I'm thinking about.
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: You know, well, he was a slot recet, but not
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: being slot receiver a bad error?
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Was that, all right? And then before that it was
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Welker and then it was Troy Brown.
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'd say I want him to be
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: the fourth receiver. You know, I want when we go
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: four wide, I want him in the slot. But I
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: want Baker. I want Baker to be that guy. I
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: get it in a perfect world, you know.
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: But Everan just threw Dion out there, Like that's what
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: we're talking about, is Dion and Brown, Just like what
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: Mike just mentioned with Edelman and a Mondola. I would
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: like that there to be something like that. Yeah, yeah, No,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: I think Pop.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: I don't think Pop is a high volume guy just
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: by nature, just because I worried about Yeah.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Well that's why, Like I don't I don't question the talent.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: I questioned the durability and the entirety, and like that's
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: part of being an NFL player. Yeah no, I don't
• 50:27
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  Speaker 15: Okay, perfect, guys. Today we're gonna talk about out of
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  Speaker 15: the top ten teams that drafted in the league, who's
• 52:23
  Speaker 15: gonna have the quickest turnaround. Let's just say, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 15: not picking in the top ten again. So let me
• 52:28
  Speaker 15: run through the list real quick. We got the Bears,
• 52:30
  Speaker 15: the Commanders, the Pats, the Cardinals, the Chargers, the Giants,
• 52:37
  Speaker 15: the Titans, the Falcons, the Bears again, and then the Viking.
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  Speaker 15: So we'll just switch the Bears the second time.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: With the Jets. Will do that, all right?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: It counts all right?
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: So Chris, you go first?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Who we think? Who thinks?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Again? Now that top ten gonna change it completely.
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think the Bears are set up for
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: some success here with Caleb Williams, Ramadunza, both of them
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: just solid pieces to the puzzle.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: There's still Dj Moore out there.
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: Like, they have some dynamic playmakers there in Chicago, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: they've continued to improve their offense. You know, they're very
• 53:10
  Speaker 10: uphill team. They like the deep ball. Cayleb can get
• 53:13
  Speaker 10: it down there. He also has some good mobility with
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: his feet. I mean, Roam another threat again. I mentioned
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: him already at wide receiver, But like you just think
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: about what they have for weapons and it's they really
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: do have the pieces to be a solid, solid team
• 53:27
  Speaker 10: this season.
• 53:27
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's it's it's interesting because that's such a tough division.
• 53:31
  Speaker 15: You know, you got the Vikings who like they still
• 53:32
  Speaker 15: justin Jefferson there. Don't forget the Packers. The lines are
• 53:35
  Speaker 15: just a couple of plays away from being in the
• 53:37
  Speaker 15: super Bowl. So I'll put them there too. I'm gonna
• 53:40
  Speaker 15: go with the Falcons, and I'm not doing that because
• 53:43
  Speaker 15: of the Pennix pick, which I do like the pick
• 53:44
  Speaker 15: in the long run. I just think, you know, they
• 53:46
  Speaker 15: have the pieces there and new coach I like Raheem Morris.
• 53:49
  Speaker 15: I think Kirk Cousins will be able to if he's healthy.
• 53:52
  Speaker 15: They got they got.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Something to work there. The division is not too tough.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I think they can get out.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: I also want to say that the Giants could do something.
• 53:59
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's a stretch, it really is.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: At you think the Giant are gonna turn around more
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: than the Commanders.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: It's hard to say right now, I think, but overall,
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: I think the Giants, with the addition of Laite neighbors,
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: if Daniel Jones can somehow figure out how to.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Be who he was in twenty twenty two off the ACL,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 54:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, we'll figure it out. But all I'm saying
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: is if he can figure it out himself, I think,
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: you know, it could definitely be a little more interesting.
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: They're in the NFC North, all right.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: What about the Titans.
• 54:34
  Speaker 15: Will levis pretty solid rookie campaign. They got Calvin Ridley, yep,
• 54:39
  Speaker 15: they got the tackle which guy I forget Latham?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Is that him? Yes?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, yep, JC Latham yep. So I mean they still
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: have d hot so that might be.
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: I think they they have a little bit of a
• 54:52
  Speaker 10: jo wide receiver.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's hard to.
• 54:54
  Speaker 15: Just be as Ridley said, he's twenty six even though
• 54:56
  Speaker 15: he's twenty nine exactly.
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: I mean he did, he did, but no, he's he's
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: kind of up there. Same with the hop I don't
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: know if they have the speed at wide receiver. I
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: don't think they have the playmakers at running back. I
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: think they have Tajy Spears still at running back. I
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: think is one of their top guys. So who's again solid,
• 55:15
  Speaker 10: But I don't know. We'll see if he can fill
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: a void of Derrick Henry. I mean, King Henry is
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: still a beast.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Here's the question. Ever wants to know, Well, what the
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: pats We'll see, We'll see.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: We'll see.
• 55:26
  Speaker 10: I mean, everybody's excited about Drake. I don't think he's
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: your day one starter. I think Jacoby is your day
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: one starter. Quite frankly, I think they already they still
• 55:35
  Speaker 10: have four quarterbacks on the roster. It will come down
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: to three. I think they picked Joe Milton for a reason.
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: They like what they see in Joe Milton. I mean,
• 55:42
  Speaker 10: they wouldn't have done that if they didn't want to,
• 55:45
  Speaker 10: you know what I mean. So I think that those
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: will be the three will be Jacoby, Drake and Joe
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: unfortunately for Bailey's Abbey, But I mean that's just how
• 55:55
  Speaker 10: it works, especially in New England.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's been a gone to the line
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: of so.
• 56:00
  Speaker 15: I will say, we're talking about trying to get out
• 56:02
  Speaker 15: of the top ten. Picking if a good season for
• 56:05
  Speaker 15: the Pats with like on paper, I think with the
• 56:08
  Speaker 15: division everything, you know, picking eleven twelve, like, that's a
• 56:11
  Speaker 15: solid season.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: That's a good.
• 56:13
  Speaker 15: Turnaround, rookie head coach, pretty much a new team completely.
• 56:17
  Speaker 15: So I'd be fine with that as a Pats fan.
• 56:19
  Speaker 10: So I think that's definitely a positive outlook they. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 10: don't know if you saw this as a report said
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: that they're underdogs in almost every game. I think this season,
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: I'll take it. I think I saw that, which is
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: just insane. I don't remember the last time that was
• 56:34
  Speaker 10: ever happened in the NFL where a team is an
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  Speaker 10: underdog in all eighteen weeks. But yeah, I think the
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: Patriots have a lot to prove this season. I think
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: this coaching staff has a lot to prove as well.
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  Speaker 10: And we'll see what direction they want to go here.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, all right, Chris, that was a good one there
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  Speaker 15: you know quickick, we're gonna get into it. We got
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  Speaker 2: While we're at it, Have you guys heard the term
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  Speaker 2: yeat you say ut yeat? Spell it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: My son said it last night, and it's apparently a
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  Speaker 5: very common term now. Of it's basic.
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  Speaker 2: You like throwing up for grabs, You eat something, you
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  Speaker 2: And I said, excuse me, what language you even speak it?
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  Speaker 5: Never heard it in my life. Well, but I just
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  Speaker 5: assume it's one of those things that probably started on
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  Speaker 5: Instagram and all of a sudden, you know, like I
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  Speaker 5: might tweet about it, you know, involved in that kind
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  Speaker 5: see what the kids do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea, but you don't know how
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  Speaker 2: to spell it.
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  Speaker 5: I would assume why E E T, But I don't
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  Speaker 5: know yet.
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ate, that's another great moment from.
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  Speaker 2: Matt. Morrell informed me that yesterday was five years to
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  Speaker 2: the day of Andy Hart's last show here on Patriot's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: Five years it's a long time ago. Time flies.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, I was. I got to witness a little
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: of the reunion yesterday. Paul got out there with.
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  Speaker 8: Paul was a little bit worried because he's you know,
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  Speaker 8: he didn't know what he was doing and going his
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  Speaker 8: first ota of the year. And I said, well, you'll
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  Speaker 8: see Andy and Giardi out there and then you'll you'll
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  Speaker 8: you'll know.
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  Speaker 2: You're I'd be like riding a bikey. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: I had sunglasses on.
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  Speaker 5: He's a radio guy now, but he had his just
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  Speaker 5: we have we have trivia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a couple of two or three trivia questions.
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  Speaker 5: Little I hope they're not those, just like super specific
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's losing the game to NBC. Correct, that's right,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: because when you're this good, that ought to get.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: You a little trivia. Who was the last three Who
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: was the last top three pick for the Patriots? And
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: this year does not count?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: The last top three pick was Drew that's right.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: What number did Vinnie Testaverdi wear for the Patriots?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Seventeen sixteen sixteen?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Wrong, both of you?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Fourteen fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm shocked, Paul.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Of numbers.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a number.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: How many rushing yards did Sony Michelle have his rookie year?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: Nine thirty seven, eight eight, nine thirty one?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, I knew, Oh that was really good.
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  Speaker 5: That's a good guest by I was covering.
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  Speaker 8: The team then, yeah, yeah, remember every one of those yards.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: I was too spein Fresno talking about the YouTube chat people,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Oh I still haven't checked that out. Yeah, don't bother.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: But first he says, Yike's Fred says, I like that,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Steve feels comfortable coming in. Andy's perverted voice in my
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: head immediately says, excuse me, that's what he would have said.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Here are a few fun facts about the troglodytes in
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: your YouTube chat. They are continually continually yelling, writing in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: caps with exclamation points. They are ninety nine percent Evan fanboys,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: emulating his style of haartoism, analogous to the Joe Rogan
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: fan base, big tough, twenty something manned children with keyboards. Uh,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: and they hate you when you have non football talk
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: and clamor for you to instead talk about jerseys. Take
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: a look at the chat and you might be entertained
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: for two minutes before realizing it's the lowest common denominator scum. Listen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is harsh.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: If they're fans of the show and they're listening and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: they're commenting, they're fine with me. I don't care if
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: they write in caps.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: I mean comment sections in general seem to kind of talk.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Dude, Come on, please, you know it's passion. It's passion.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: That's okay. As long as they care, that's all. That's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: all I'm asking for.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: We'll talk jerseys, no problem.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: So Evan fan boys, fan boys, fan men.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: That's really well, they're big babies according.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: To But it's like the ben affleck. He doesn't like
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  Speaker 2: those people.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Oh no, they're to get them.
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  Speaker 8: They're always trying to snap pictures of them with duncan
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  Speaker 8: stuff dropping.
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  Speaker 6: It's pretty horrible bit that he did, honestly, and Jala
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  Speaker 6: on the Rocks again, is that you know, who would
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: have thought?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: That's what the saying, who would have thought?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 8: It seems to kids wasn't gonna work for those two guys.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I really believed it.
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  Speaker 6: It's not like they tried once before failed, so I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: really thought they had a chance.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 8: But my old boss told me a crazy story about
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 8: them that he was at like I forget what it was.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: It was like some kind of presentation or something, but
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 8: they were in a like an auditorium kind of thing,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 8: and he said Jlo and Ben Affleck were like in
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: the back just going at it in front of everybody.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: Well, were they at it or fighting?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 14: No?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: At it?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, the good one, the good one
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  Speaker 1: not fighting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: He was disturbed. I think a lot of people were disturbed.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: This was back in like the mid two thousands, so
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I think it was.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: When the one day ago they are fighting over finances
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: and living separately.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: How do you find it?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Fight over finances?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: You got a billion dollars?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: No, what's the song? I got nine million problems?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: J ain't one.
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  Speaker 6: Nine nine one of the most rapist doesn't translate all
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  Speaker 6: the time.
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  Speaker 2: It's sick. Well, they got a lot more money than
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: most people.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: Well, wouldn't you just ge at this point you're both success.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: We'll just keep your finances separate and don't worry about that.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 8: You would think it's Yeah, she wants a little, wants
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  Speaker 8: a little.
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  Speaker 5: It's a little complicated.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's get to the ace sticking outline eight five
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  Speaker 2: five pass five hundred. Patrick's in Pennsylvania. What's up, Patrick, Patrick?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: The new phone system.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: The new phone system will solve that, I hope.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: But then when the calls dropped, they just won't be believe.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at least they'll know there's no call there.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Like you, you know, and people can text us too.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Is that the Yeah, I'm a little worried about that, Matt,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: because now I have to pay attention to another device.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: You know, we'll feed it, We'll put more somebody on there.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: We need a co producer to monitor the chat.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Pick out the best, the moderator for the YouTube chat.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, settle down in there, be nice to each other,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: pre and postgame show, the pan forwards, the best emails
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: over the hearty can do the same thing with text me.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Well, the hardy needs the help because he's not good
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: at fielding emails, but once he gets to them, he's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: very good. He reads them. Well, well, yeah I heard it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Sugg just doesn't find the email. Did you hear you listen?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: I was.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I was listening this morning.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: He's talking about he's stuck in like some kind of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: weird traffic situation, and so he just got out of
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: the car, had his wife pull over, and he just
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: started Hardy started direct in traffic, and everyone was like,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: thank you, thank you, you know, like he just took
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 8: matters into his own hands, which I did not feel like.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: This is a story he sold this morning on the radio.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: It was pretty pretty funny.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: I missed it minute.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: JJ Reddick on the radio yesterday with that was one
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: of the most fantastic.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: It was one of the most horrific spots that it's
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: kind of the definition of why I have no use
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: for guests in general. But the disrespect that he showed
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: for other people on that was who was it, JJ Redick,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: who is a colossal douche.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I listened, Yeah, well that's what he's doing. It's totally
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: uncalled for.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what did he like? He was asked if the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: Celtics were to lose, what would be a potential problem,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: and he said the better team would have won that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: the analysis that that the lead, the lead NBA national
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: analyst said the better team. So I guess there's no
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: such thing as an upset. It's never happened, right, And
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: no such thing as an upset. It's never happened in
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: the in the history of sports.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: He was being pissy.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: F your guys. Yeah, and you know it was It
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: was just weird. And I'm like, listen, Mike and Tony
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: they aren't They aren't a lot of that stuff with
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: their reputation. And my bet is that he kind of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: knew some of that going in. Well, fell girls, I mean,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: ranked the coaches, they're all great. Anybody that gets this
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: far as great.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Well, somebody said it. That that's from somebody said it.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: It might be true. Is that he doesn't want to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: say anything now because he wants that Lakers coaching job,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: so he has he's being careful about being too opinionated.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, I'm a JJ Reddick fan from his
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: playing days, but he that was not a good look
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: on his partner. It really wasn't a good interview for anybody.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: But it wasn't a good look on his.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Part now and if he offered any sort of like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: because he's like a really knowledgeable basketball.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Right better be if somebody wants him to be the coach.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: But no, I'm talking about in terms of preparation and understanding, knowing, knowing,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: knowing the details. He just didn't want to offer any
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: of it yesterday.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: I think that he was going with the whole like
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: I operate on a plane that you guys can operate on.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: So like me explaining to you another worships that might happen,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: isn't you're gonna it's not gonna. You're not gonna understand.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: In other words, you went to Duke, Yeah, there you go.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: Nothing else needs to be saying.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: Jason Tatum also went to Duke.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Nothing like that.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: So, you know, Blobby from Puerto Rico rights in. There's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: been a lot of talk about how the defense is
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: going to be fine for the last twenty years. All
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I've heard is that Bill was the greatest defensive mind
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: ever and that the defense was as good as it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: was because he knew where to put good not great
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: players in positions to succeed and knew what to do
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: to make the other team's offense play left handed. So
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: are we now saying that this defensive staff can do
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: just as good as him? How is the defense going
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: to be as good when you didn't add any players
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: to upgrade positions in the offseason and Bill is no
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: longer with the team. What gives everyone so much confidence
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: that things are going to be fine? I just don't
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: see it, but want to hear what others think. It's
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: it's a We brought that point up on this show.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well fine is it? Define is an interesting word?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: Like no one's saying that they're going to be the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: eighty five Bears, Like fine is fine?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Like will they be as good as they were last year?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: I think they'll have a chance to be better because
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: jude On and Gonzalez they're going to be healthy again.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: But you're are you factoring in the loss of the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: greatest defensive mind ever.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: This version of the greatest defensive mind ever or the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: one that existed ten years ago?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I think.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Mike's fair point.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I know, Well, the last few years it's been.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: You think they've had bad defensive game plans the last time?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and they haven't had any answers for two attack
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: of Iloa they've just beat Josh Allen. I mean they
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: they've gotten lit up by the same guy as a
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: few schools.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't have they didn't have answers for Miami over
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: the course of bills.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: They don't have answers for teams with offenses when at
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: his peak that's maybe they weren't as good.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not but see now what Paul is saying is
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: they weren't as good a defense as people thought they were.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. You said, can they be as good
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: as last year?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: I think they can?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Okay? And were they? And so then my my follow
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: up is were they fine last year? Yeah? Okay, yeah,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: so then you think they can be fine?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: But I but I think it is one of the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 8: great questions that you know, and I don't think any
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: of us are just like, how hold hum, he's gone, Like,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: I think this is one of the great questions of
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: Bill Belichick's game plan defenses, identifying you know, like and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: I you know, acknowledging that it didn't work so great
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: the last couple of years for you know, a variety
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: of reasons.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: But what's it looked like with that element?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: What does you know?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: What does Giromeo cook up with DeMarcus Covington. When they
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: look at another team's offense and say, we got to
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: find three things we have to take away. There are
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: three things that they come up with, probably not the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: same things that that Bill might have come up with.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 8: So I think it's a it's definitely a question. I mean,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: I think you know, last year's team, they were, they were,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: They had some pretty big injuries without Jude On and
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: you know, and granted they should have had better depth
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: at that position, but you know, I like Gonzalez is
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: the only guy that I see that I really feel
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 8: like he's going to be very good and take a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: step forward this year. I have trouble making that argument
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: for Keon White, for Marte map Whu, you know, those
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: other young guys that we don't know, we don't know yet.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: On those guys, I mean, and you know, even Gonzalez,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 8: it's a little you know, tenuous, but just the way
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: he moves and he just looked like he got it instantly.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: So I feel pretty good about him.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: But who are the other players that you think this
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: year are going to take a step forward and be better?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: Like Jelani Tavai, I mean, I think he kind of
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: is what he is. He's a good player. I don't
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: think he's going to suddenly be great. I don't think
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: Jawan Bentley's going to suddenly be great. You know, Is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: josh uj gonna play three and be able to generate
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: pass rush all on his own? I don't really have
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: much confidence in that. So I do think that they
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: have some some real questions. And I've talked about in
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: the past. Their whole defensive front is basically up for
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: contract next year, So Godshaw, Dietrick Wise, I mean, all
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: these guys.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Could be a good thing. It could be because they're
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: playing for.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: So you're looking at you know, maybe we're looking at
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: next year. Where we spent this whole offseason talking about
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: the offense needs to be rebuilt. It's like, all right,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: we got some pieces on offense. Now, Caden Wallace worked
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: out left tackle. I'm just throwing something out there that
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: worked on offense. But you know, defensively, Godshaw's gone, Dietrick Wise,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm sure they can retain. But Judon is
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: getting up in age. Is he gonna suddenly play at
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: a high like, you know, fifteen sack level. I don't
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: really have much hope of that, so, I I mean,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: I think the emailers kind of feels like he's like
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: finger wagging us, But I think we're kind of on
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: the same pad.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I think a legitimate Yeah said, it's a question that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: we raised on this show.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's a legitimate concern.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the loss of Bill and Steve, Yeah, yeah, is
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: a legitimate DeMarcus coming to and yesterday about how he's
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: getting ready to call plays. He's never done it before. Yeah,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: you know, Steve was the one that was calling the defense,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: and so it'd be interesting to see how that goes,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: because that's important, like maybe Steve would have blitzed on
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: a third down that DeMarcus won't blitz on, you know,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: like or vice versa, right, and that those things can
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: might not. We might not necessarily notice that it's it's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: a difference, but over the course of the season we
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: might be like, well, dang, they're not very good on
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: third down, and then all of a sudden we find
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: out it's because Steve was kind of good at this.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: It was like, you know, spinning the dial on third
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: downs and DeMarcus Covington is still learning, and there's the drop.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: Off, and the opposite could happen too. Yeah, he could
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: be better at it. Maybe you know, the defense plays
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: at a higher level and you're like, hmm, maybe some
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: of the play calling was holding them back or something.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: You know, like that can happen too. Sure, But I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: mean I'm sort of airing on the side of the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: guy who won six titles. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: So I'm not just like saying, oh, well, Paul's just
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: saying it's gonna be worse because that's what he does. No,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm judging it on the surface. I think he's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: considered to be one of the best defensive minds of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: his generation and they lost him, So I'm going to
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: assume that that's going to be a net negative.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I just I think Kean White is
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: really one of the only real wild cards on the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: defense of somebody who maybe there's something there.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: And I know yesterday Girod spoke of him, and there.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: Was a lot of you know, when I talked about
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: the coaches talking, there was a lot of enthusiasm. Keon
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: White got a lot of buzz yesterday. Maya no R
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: Jerry Jerry, Jerry Montgomery, you know, spoke about Keon White.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: A little bit too, and uh, I think that there
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: you know, you know when he's just like, oh is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: the reason why he was drafted where he was, you
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: know is how he started. And I think I think
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: they have some some ideas about him and some hope
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: we'll see if he fits in. I'm a little worried
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: that Evans thing is right with him. He's kind of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: tweener that doesn't have it, doesn't have a home.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 8: I am thought Girod's comments yesterday because they kind of
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: resonated with me because I felt like when Keo White
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: talked last week, it's like this seems like a new guy,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: a little bit like he's just more talkative. He's got
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 8: a little bit of a sense of humor where you know, right,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: But you know, even like with Mapu, it's like, well,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: if he has a great year, how much impact does
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: that really make?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean make where are they playing right?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: And that's and then you know, and then you're getting
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: into the.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Question play yeah, but you can make an impact, right.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: But if he's just kind of like Kyle Duggar part B,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: like it's fine they already have I would just say last.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Point is is that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: I think they'll be fine if Judon Ouch, John Jones,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: and Christian Gonzalez those four stay healthy. I think I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 8: think they'll be okay. They'll be they'll be competitive on defense,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: They'll be able to, you know, hang in there against teams.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: Will they be able to hold teams to six points?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: That might be a little bit lofty, but I think
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: they'll be fine if those guys stay healthy. But those
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: are some older guys. Jonathan Jones, you know, Jude On that.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 8: I mean it might be asking a lot. And you know,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: was O Jay's year two years ago? Was that an outlier?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 8: Or you know, is there another level of his game
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: that he can get to with Judahn playing off of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: him again? And you know, if that works out like
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: it did two years ago, then then yeah, they'll be okay.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: I just think emails like that, not to like pick
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: on the emailer, but like those emails that we get,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: I feel like are concentrated on them winning next year
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: and I'm just not so like when I hear, oh,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: like the you know, is the defense going to be fine?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, Like how I no, you don't know,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: but you don't want to take a step back. No, Like,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to be patient, right, and the offense is
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: going to be a work in progress because of the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: quarterback and all that. But you're just hoping at least
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: you don't go backwards on defense.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: You know, Like, but they might go back they they might,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: they might, And I don't know if it necessarily Like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 6: some people will correlate it to Bill and maybe it
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: is correlated to him, but I think in a lot
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: of ways it might just be correlated to the fact
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: that they have another bad offensive year, and like they're
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: on the field all the time, and they're playing better
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: teams on their schedule. It is a very difficult old schedule.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: You know, Aaron Rodgers is probably going to be back.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: So that's two games now instead of scrub quarterbacks.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know, instead of Zach, instead of Zach Wilson
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: and Trevor Simmey, and you play Aaron Rodgers twice, right.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: And I can promise you on this show will try
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: to be fair in our analysis of the whys.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, I just think that it's this
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: year to me is just so much more about development,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: and like we get these emails that are like, you know, basically,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: how many games do you think they're going to win?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four, we get a lot of those
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Like, I like, they might only win
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: three or four games, guys, Like I hate to tell
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: you that, but like with the schedule and the fact
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: that Drake May is going to be a rookie and
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: who knows when he's actually going to play, and the coaches,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, most.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Of these sites have their over under for wins at
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: four and a half or fo or five and a half. Yeah,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: like somewhere in that neighborhood.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: So like.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: When we don't answer eleven, I think people are like,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: what no.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: I I was asked at one of the practices I
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: went to last week, and well, you know, what do
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: you think your ceiling is for wins? And there was
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: an audible gasp when I gave the number.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: So I'm guessing you don't want to share it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: Not yet. We haven't done that yet. We're not there yet, because.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: I kind of feel the same way, like I don't
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: really want to.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: The only way that I see that don't want to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: say the number being higher than we all think, because
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: I think we're all on the same page is if
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: Drake Mays a star, right, Yeah, if he's c J.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: Stroud, then it's going to be higher. That's my caveat
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: additions on the ground, change that will change. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: Now you have an offense.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Martin and London who's looking forward to watching the Patriots live. Second. Firstly,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: great show, he says, thank you. Secondly, when I'm not
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: listening to the podcast or watching sport, my job is
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: a senior data analyst and sometimes my two passions come
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: together and I look at sports data. So obviously this
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: is for Evan. A friend of mine asked me if
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: I think shorter quarterbacks tend to target taller wide receivers,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: especially in their first year, as it might be the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: safer The discussion came from Marvin Harrison receiving targets from Murray.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start pulling some data together, but thought
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Evan might have some insight, but also access to data.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: I don't wow, access to data, you don't, I mean
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: short answer, probably yes, but I don't know how it
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: would help in this context.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: I think that there's an interesting conversation though about quarterback
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: height that I think I've learned a little bit about
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: watching the Patriots quarterbacks play, and you know, most of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: the time when you talk about height, I think that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: people talk about like throwing over the line and seeing
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: over the line and batted passes. But one thing that
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: I've noticed just watching May Milton, obviously Jacoby Brissett, is
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: just like how much bigger they are to generate power
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: on throws. Like it's not even so much about the
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: fact that they can see over the line and like
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: all that stuff. It's just that they have so much
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: more muscle and like just body to put behind things
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: that you can just tell the difference the way the
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: ball comes out of the hand. Like I think that's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 6: different than what he's talking about, but like that, you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: just see such a big difference in just there. I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: guess athleticism, I guess is the way to put it,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: And you know, like Rogers is a big guy, Like
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: people don't talk about that. He's he's a big guy.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: He's tall, and he's got huge hands, and like the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: way he's able to just spin that ball with so
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: little seemingly behind it. There is a lot behind it,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: but he makes it look effortless.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Was a super athlete.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 8: I mean, he is one of those guys that just
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: I mean, you could make up a sport tomorrow and
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: he'd be good at it.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Like that's he's that kind of.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: You just see the difference.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: It's he That's kind of how I feel about May.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: He's like six ' four right Rogers.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, I mean that's kind of how I feel
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 8: about May too. Like just when you watch him, he's
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: just he's a fluid, big, athletic NFL quarterback kind of dude.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: And you know, Mac never really felt exactly that, like
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: he felt kind of just the a B version of that.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: You know, you remember Paul Walter Johnson, the pitcher, Yeah,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, back in the day. Yeah, I mean
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: he was he was tall and long and like he could.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: It's like a nineteen hundred skuy.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I asked Paul. That's why I you know,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: I directed it to.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: Paul, like I have no idea how tall he was.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: They didn't think how many stone did he weigh.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Let's see, Chad's his first time emailing. He's from Tulsen.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is a good question, but I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: feel like we should have a stock answer because we
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: get asked it all the time. What would have to
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: happen this season to make you guys feel like the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: season was successful.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Spark you know, spark on offense.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like guys, like, we've got our quarterback.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: That's it, that's I mean, that's straight. He shows promise.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the bottom line. That's what the league is.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 8: And for all the time we taught, like I said
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: at the top, all the time we spent talking about
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 8: the other positions. If Drake May is awesome, those problems
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: are all much less concerning than they are when you're
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: looking at it as quarterback as a character in the play,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: not the lead dog.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: Right, We get this question a ton about offense, the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: offensive line, like if the offensive line is a mess,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: are you afraid to put Drake May in there? And
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 6: I just keep going back to the same thing with
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: that too. It's like, if he's a dude, if he's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: a star, then it's not going to be as bad
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: as you think, right, Like, he's he's gonna make it better.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: What was Andy's line yesterday?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, diamonds can't break it. Can't break a diamonds.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I liked it.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: A boy, you can't break a.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Diamond Andy's Book of Hard Oak Quotes.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: I do like that. I do like that. After the
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: half hour of me making fun of him for it,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: he's right hard Yeah, it's no. If he's good enough, Yeah,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: well he'll be able to I think, stand and he'll
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: make the line right.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: And it sums up, you know, ran I went on
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 8: a couple weeks ago where it's everyone's so afraid of
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: breaking every quarterback.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: And that was what instantly clicked for me.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: It's like, the really really special quarterbacks should be nearly
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 8: impossible to break.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: And that's what you have to do. If I see if,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: like for argument's sake, if mac Jones goes on to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: have a really successful career as a starting quarterback, then
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: maybe I'll rethink me too.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm not talking about mac Jones specifically. I mean,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: you know, I think you can go and you know,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: sort of flame out a little bit, go somewhere else,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: be a journeyman like Genosmaker, have some success. Baker Mayfield
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: have something. I'm talking about stud He went from looking
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: like he was broken to being a stud. Then you
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: know that that would tell me that what they did
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: held him back and he was good enough to overcome it.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: That's how I look at it, you know what I mean.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: And in fact, he wasn't broken, right, it looked that way, but.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: He was just out of sorts and need to work
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 8: some things out with a new coaching staff to like
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 8: reset him.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 13: Then.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: I just think the biggest thing with him was that
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: they drafted. They drafted like a point guard that they
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: then expected to be like Michael Jordan, Like they expected
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: him to just like make everything better, right, and that
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: they never upgraded this stuff around him, like Mac was
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 6: not physically talented enough to do what Paul is talking
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: about and like put the team on his back like
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: he wasn't.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately for him, he was drafted in the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: first round. What gets lost is he was the fifth
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: quarterback drafted, you know.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: And usually teekehd overall not the fifth quarter actually.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Fifth quarterback drafted with exceptions always our second third round,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: you know, and sometimes even further. But if nobody gone out,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: and when you drafted in the first round as a
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: quarterback in this league, you're expected to be a stud.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: If you've given him the supporting cast, I think Mac
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: would have been capable of just distributing the ball like
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 6: brock Purty style to these players, but he wasn't given
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: that opportunity, and they almost expected him to be like
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: a level above that and to elevate everything for and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: I think.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be and he made mistakes and that,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: and then he became scrambled eggs.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like right, because he was swimming in the deep end, right,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: you know, like he wasn't good enough to do that,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: and so then it was like an avalanche.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: Right. There is something interesting to me though in Mac
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 8: in that first year where it's like you don't know
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: what you don't know yet, and it's almost like you're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: just kind of white knuckling it through your rookie season
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: and you don't have time to overthink too much, you know.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: And and I think in a way that almost worked
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: to his benefit that first year. And then I started.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Agree, I think it worked. It was detriment. I think
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: it was false success.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: I think they they overmanaged them. They didn't allow him
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: to make mistakes. He didn't he he never was able
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: to see what his limitations were and where, you know,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: because he was just overmanaged. And I think it was
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: false success. Yeah.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think I think we're probably trying to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: kind of say the same thing. But yeah, that was
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 8: it was like a fool's gold season because you had
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: you had McDaniel's in his ear, and look, this is
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 8: exactly what you have to do.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: And he doesn't know any better.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: And you know, I when when he.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: Got to camp, but initially like he didn't he wasn't
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 8: looking at the ground, he wasn't concerned about the pocket.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: He was keeping his eyes downfield, and I was like,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: whoa this You know, it's it's similar to what we're
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: seeing for Drake May right now. So I do think
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: it's just a little cautionary that like just what you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: get rookie year.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's some.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: Elements you're getting, but it might be a little bit
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: different than what you're actually going to get down the road.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: I hope if May plays, they let him play, they
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: let him be made.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 8: And it seems like it seems like they will.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just started doing no look passes, which
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: I can tell you that is like Drake May.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I could see like if that was a couple of
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: years ago, he'd get finger wagged after the practice.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 14: What do you do?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: What the hell?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: My favorite part of the video we posted the no
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: Look Pass, which I've watched approximately fifty times, is the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: coaches behind him, and one of the coaches just goes
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: ooh like just like that, and like because they're all
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 6: looking like where is he going? Like with the ball,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 6: because he's looking down the field and there's nobody open
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: where his eyes are, and so they're all like, oh, like,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: where's he going with this?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: And then he throws it in the I like that
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: he felt confident to do that. That's us like some
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: other players would be like, I don't want to show
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: up right, well more.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: So than the actual play itself.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: That's all I kind of felt too, was just that
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: he has a degree of comfort that he can be
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: himself and do something like that in however many practices
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 8: this has been speaking of that.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: I guess Jeff Howe had an article today or maybe
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: came out last night about the vibe. Yeah. I haven't
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: had a chance to read it.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: I've read some quotes that have been on Twitter, but
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: I haven't read anything good. Uh, just like some stuff
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: about how like Mayo's like shortened meetings, you know, like
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: they used to talk about Bill's like marathon meetings, you know,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: and now they're they're doing meetings and uh they're I
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: guess called sprint meetings or like they're twenty five minutes
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: of like really hunkering down and they'll give them the
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: players a break and then twenty five more minutes and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: then a break and so on and so forth. Yea,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: so just doing things a little bit different. And then
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: obviously some of the other stuff is things that we've about,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: you know, the pictures around the facility, you're different. Sort
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: of the vibe is, you know, we're not going to
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: keep looking back in the past and look at all
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: the greatness sun, you know, and turn the page.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: Andrew in la I asked chat GBT what the Patriots
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: win total will be next season with the condition that
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: May would be a good quarterback and he played seventeen games,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: It said they'd win eleven or twelve games. I think
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: this analysis is good because it's positive. Please be more
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: like chat GBT and Playkate us Evan well, like, okay,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: so you're putting in that condition may play seventeen games,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: meaning he's probably playing well, so you know, maybe they
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: do win more games because of that. And eleven, you know,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: ten or eleven is an unreasonable although I still say
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: that first year everything, you know, even Peyton Manning didn't
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, That's why I feel like even if he is
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: playing really well, you know, going back to like Justin
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: Herbert's rookie season, us and Herbert had great stats his
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: rookie season, and the Chargers system win games. I mean
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: they lost to the Cam Newton Patriots, like by like
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 6: a lot. It was like, yeah, yeah, but his stats,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: if you look at him at the end of the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 6: year are were really really impressive, but the team just
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: didn't win. Yeah.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: Well, they always have social media, so that's good for them.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of emails about movies. Still, people want to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: talk about movies, but we're going to hold off at
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: least for now. Get to some of the phone calls
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Nate's and Wellington. What's up, Nate, Hey, guys, how you doing.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 17: I just had a question.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: I was kind of pondering, you know.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 17: Jacoby, I'm sure knows he's a gap year guy and
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 17: after this year he'd be done and I would be
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 17: looking to, you know, get with another team. Do you
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 17: think there's any chance if he's benched early in the
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 17: season for May, is that that might affect the level
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 17: of effort he'd put into his mentorship and may even
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 17: create maybe a toxic environment in the locker room.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 9: Perhaps.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I got to imagine that he understands that that scenario
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: is very possible.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: You know, and like he's, oh, okay, well I'll hang
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: up and listen enough for you, Fred.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to imagine he came in knowing that
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: that's very possible to happen, and his mind is prepared for.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: I think the mentor part of this is wildly overblown
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: and overrated.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 5: I think this is going to be up to the coaches.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: Should be the mental to Drake May too. Yeah, you know,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: become the player that he can be, And it's on
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett to prepare as much as he can to
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: play if he's going to be playing. Like I I don't,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, I do think there's a chance that, you know,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: it's not great because like it's human nature, and I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: kind of felt, I don't know if you guys, how
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: much you guys listened to Zappi yesterday. I kind of
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: felt bad listening to Bailey Zappy yesterday. You know, he
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: talked a lot about well, you know, they talked to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: all four of us you know, it's an open competition.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: I forget what he said, like, well, I mean, that's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: that's what they told that's what they told us, or
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: something like that. It was almost like he was saying,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: but I don't buy it because he knows he doesn't
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: have any chance to win the starting job.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: That didn't I hope, So I really say, it's awkward
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: the quarterback he said it could.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: Be oh, it could be yeah, and he just said
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: it's you know, it was awkward, you know, ZAPPI now
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: being he it's awkward. You know, it was only awkward
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 5: when you know we didn't know each other. Now you know,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: it's just finally like well that I mean, and I
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: just I did. I kind of felt bad for Zach
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: because I think he'd be better off going somewhere else.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: I felt similarly, but I almost felt like he was
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: not really aware of Like I don't know, maybe he
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: was just ignoring it, but it just felt like, no,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 8: it was awkward we didn't know each other, but you know,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: now we know each other, and it's finally like no, dude,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: like these guys are brought in to like get you
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: out of the job, like you shouldn't be here anymore?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Do you understand that?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: Like that's how you know?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: It kind of was? It felt like, but who's Zappi's agent?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Is there? Nicole Leon? Who else does she have?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: Any o?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Yes? She has bar More? Okay, a couple other guys.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: Okay, I think too, like everybody forgets, like so much
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 8: can happen, Like I don't you know, I don't want
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: to speculate, but this sport is just it's crazy.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, you never know.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: I mean you saw in twenty sixteen Jacoby Brissett had
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: to start whatever it was, week three, you know, I mean,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: circumstances happen, and I just think, you know, that's why.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: I think he's still here. Yeah, is because I do
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: think that they realized that, you know, Kobe gets hurt
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: my theory, and we're not ready to put Drake in yet, right, Yeah,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: we're not gonna put Milton in.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Like where are we going to go from there?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: If we're hell bent on Drake doesn't play for X
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: amount of weeks, you better have a bad better have
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: a backup that can play, right, Yeah? Weird?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: Did all the miltone wasn't there yesterday? I mean, I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 8: don't really want to speculate it could have been like, oh,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: we had to graduate or something, but like that's what
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 8: I heared.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: It was, but that's total speculation. Yeah, but yeah, I
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Ben didn't get to watch him.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 5: The first thing that we thought that Andy and I
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: mentioned was the graduation. But I mean, I suppose it's individual,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: like if you've nowadays, you even have to go like
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: there's so many different ways. Plus he's been in college
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: for a while, right.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: He should be graduated two years ago.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Actually, Ericson Holbrook, what's up? Eric? Eric, I'm Mark. I'm sorry,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Mark good.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 12: Finally, I'm pretty a sou for a very very very
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 12: very long time. That's how it called. Okay, But my
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 12: biggest con is, my biggest trouble is that I know
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 12: Freak May's not gonna stop.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: You know that I know that he ain't stopping.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 12: The season I played, I played with Steve Gogin' Sevy
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 12: Pro team, and I do a lot of jobs for.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Oh inside knowledge?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: All right, So were you giving us inside knowledge like
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 5: you talked to the coaches or something. I'm being serious, Well,
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 5: how do you work for running Roland James Rock?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 15: So No, I've been I'm a wife.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: Fan, so okay, But as far as the cod.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 10: What does he do better than that?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 12: That's what I'm trying to figure out because I've been watching.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: Real better arms, more athletic, more experience, Yeah, more experience.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's more athletic, but everything else I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: would agree with him.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 13: He doesn't move around with.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: He doesn't move well in the pocket. He's not a
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: good runner, but he's much bigger, much stronger, can drive
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 5: the ball downfield.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, Bailey
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Zappi might be a better quarterback than Jacoby Brissett.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 12: I think it'd be a huge mistake to get rid
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 12: of them because we don't even know about Jako.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: No, we do know about Jacoby Brissett, and that's why
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: he's here. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think Bailey Zappi
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: wants to be a starter in this league. And I
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: don't blame him in the you know, I think he won't.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: My prediction is he won't be here at the end
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: of the season.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: He's gonna be here training.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 17: Last we all go off that last game against I
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 17: mean they had no hero Henry he played.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: With that line.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 5: We're talking about Zappi again.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: Zapi had plenty of bad games. Yeah, we've we've seen
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: plenty of He's played eight games.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: A couple of them were pretty good, a couple of
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: them were really really bad, and the rest of them
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: were met. I mean that's I mean, he's only played
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: eight games. I'm not saying that that's the end of
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: his career, but I mean he but like, yeah, I know, sure,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: And it looked the same exact when Mac Jones was playing.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: It was bad, it was bad. He threw a lot
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: of interceptions. He was bad. He had three touchdowns in
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: the half, right, and then how do you do in
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: the second half?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 12: Well, they kind of held him back.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, they held him back by him throwing interceptions.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: That was that, that was the held's back part. He
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 5: actually held the Steelers back into the game by throwing
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: a pick that set up a touchdown. Okay, let's go
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: back to said how does he do with that off
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: the line, and we'll see we haven't seen him play.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the different team this year we got.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: I think we get better receive this year. Well, I
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: don't know. I mean we'll see, I mean, we'll see
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: if the two rookies are any good, But other than that,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: it's the same.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: I don't understand why it doesn't really matter.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: This is not one I had on my bingo. Car
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: I agree with you, thanks Mark. Totally irrelevant.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: No, I mean there's Bailey Zappy people out there, but
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: that's fine. Like you know, debating Jacoby said for his
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: Bailey Zappi to me is kind of wasting time.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: Who cares? Who cares what the right answer is?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's something to do with like them personally.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, attracted that like a superstition, never comes to the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: same door you left it never come back came and
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: how that door came back in this I just it's
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: like a Brady Bunch thing. I think it's irrelevant which
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: one's better between those two. That's my point. Who cares
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: what the right answer is?
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I can make an argument for Bailey Zappi,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: I make an argument for Jacoby Brissett.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: But ultimately you don't want either one of them playing
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: long term for your team.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: But if the question is which backup would be more
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: upset about losing his job to May, I would say
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: that would be Zappy. Like Zappy, I think Jacoby Brissett
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: knows his role. I think Zappie wants to be a
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: starter in this league.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: At least wants to compete to be in start.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Chester's in Portland. What's up? Chester?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 12: God, what's going on?
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: We're doing all right, doing all right? Buying apparel you know,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: n Well, let's.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 12: Get those number ten jerseys either altered or body bull
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 12: stops Because you know, feeling pretty optimistic about what's coming
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 12: up and a good day for me, I'm going in
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 12: to work a little way. I just really wanted to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 12: talk into the the point about what's going to modify
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 12: this being a successful season. And you know, I think
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 12: we're so caught up in the quarterback change and what's
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 12: you know, what's to come, But I think it really
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 12: starts and ends with the coaching staff and if we're
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 12: gonna have some sort of continuity, what Male was gonna
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 12: do in situational you know, moments in the football game.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 12: I was gonna lead this team and ultimately, you know,
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 12: the team's gonna bring back a great equality that's gonna
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 12: make us relevant and you know, possibly be a difference
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 12: in a in a defensive battle or a game that's
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 12: gonna be Cloke. Uh, you know, that's what I'm looking for.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 12: I'm looking for character and for this team to be
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 12: relevant and really starting with the coaching, the coaching staff.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 12: You know, I'm excited about Sam Pelt, But you know
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 12: what was the last time season was no a great
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 12: quarterback play is auto graam. I mean, you know, I'm
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 12: wondering what is going to bring to the quarterback room
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 12: in helping me to develop. I'm in the board of thinking,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 12: you know, we need to seper set a little longer
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 12: than you know, a month or so and let this
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 12: kid really learn, get the playbooks down. But overall, guys,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 12: I'm optimistic. I'm really excited about you know, the guys
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 12: coming in and I hope this offensive line could take
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 12: a few steps forward. You know, to me that what
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 12: Reilly rapid terms of me saying, yeah, Jack, I'm I'm
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 12: looking forward to seeing what next season can be. Uh,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 12: you know, Boston playoffs and anything beyond that. You know,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 12: of positives will be silver lining and gravy in my opinion,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 12: But you know, I'm excited of the season. Thank you
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 12: for all the off season coverage. I listened every time.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: Just good to get a chance to fall in take
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: it easy, all right, thanks Schester Chester is a long
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: time listener, and he used to call in, and you
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: have these pep talks, and there was one I forget why,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: but you know, Patriots Nation needed a pep talk, and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: he ended it with buy apparel and it went down.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: And as I marched to a trumpet, right, I know
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: it was tough. They they lost the game.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: You're the one that wanted to move on from it,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: that's right, he read. He reads the show notes, and
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 6: the North remembers Nor remembers.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Pete Otowell writes in I've emailed before about listening to
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: old podcasts, which, by the way, are still very interesting.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Oh God, especially knowing the outcome of the season. I
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: just listened to when Mike was in Vegas for the
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: joint practices August twenty twenty two. I had forgotten how
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: miserable he sounded. Paul showed that he can be a
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: good person when he wants to be. He was very
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: sympathetic and tried to make Mike feel better. That practice
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: must have been when Mike realized they were doomed.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I'm having trouble remembering being miserable well that.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: That it was one of the practices that they were
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 5: making plays all over the Patriots and DeVante Adams.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: But nobody was happy and that joint because it was
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: it was week two of being on the road, and
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: even the players like, we just want.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: To go home.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: It was like one hundred and ten degrees. I mean,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: I remember that stuff, but I do remember. I think
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: it was week two of being on the road. I
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: think it was Trent Brown just want to go on
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: the road. But they went to joint practices in Vegas.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: They played a game, But.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 8: Don't you remember the last couple team sessions I thought
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 8: were actually kind of positive, like.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: They went back and forth with them.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they I mean I think maybe Henry, you know,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: they're just doing two minute offense right, you know at
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: the end eleven on eleven. But I was enamored of
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: Devonte Adams just watching him in drills after, you know,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 8: having watched Patriots receivers for a while and you're like,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 8: this is what a stud looks like. And they remember
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 8: a rep against Jalen Mills where it was just up
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: the sideline and all of a sudden he just went
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 8: hammered down goodbye and just like ran right by him.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: You know, even Hunter Renfrod was kind of still impressive.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 6: At that Hunter Renfro and De Monte Adams, you know,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: even like what you know, it was clear watching those
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 6: practices that even the Raiders, like their top end talent
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 6: was just like Max Crosby obviously on the other side,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 6: like they just had much better their top five of
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: their roster and was just much better than the Patriots.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 8: The walk to in and outs was stands out most
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: we having and I were like, we went buy an
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: in and out and it seemed like it was close,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 8: and then we just started walking.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: We were like in the desert, like a waste lang.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: There's like tumbleweeds and radle states going by, Like we're
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: gonna get that double double I promise.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 5: Is that like at the meadow Lands. I remember the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 5: old statistician Roger Fred Yeah, had across like Route three.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing about it, so you have the Giant
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: stadium and the hotel and it looks like, oh it's closed,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: but there's like it's like a maze of highways in between,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: and there's this guy, you know, three hundred pounds, you know,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: overweight guy with his like old style briefcase trying to
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: cross these highways sweat, and people are screaming at him
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: new idiots yourself killed, beeping their horns. Oh, he said
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: it was the most frightening thing he ever did. Where
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: was he trying to get? He's trying to get from
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: a hotel in Jersey.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: To the to the medal was just trying to walk
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: to the medalands.
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  Speaker 5: But you could walk like we we originally used to
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: stay at like a metal land Sheridan, I think, yeah,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: and it was walking distance, but it wasn't walkable, if
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 5: that makes sense.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all high its maze of highways, and he
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: somehow didst like you, you take a wrong exit on
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: that maze and you're you're thy minutes.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: But thinking about think about walking across all those highways.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: You can't do it. And he did it barely. He's
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: because he's like, oh, I'll just walk. It's right over there.
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  Speaker 5: That stadium stinks, yeah.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: For what they paid for it.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 5: Even area around it stinks.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: The stadium. That's where I saw Bruce.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I saw Bruce there the what was it the Continental
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Airlines Arena?
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  Speaker 6: The Devil air conditioning like it looks like an air
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 6: like one of those old well.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: When they built the stadium, they ran out of money.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: But when they built it, the whole idea with those
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: slats is they they were they'd move in depending on
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: whether it's the Giants or the Jets, that the stadium
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: would have a completely different look. And they never never
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: got to that point they ran out of money.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, probably getting old. Now what was that like two
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 8: thousand and seven, thousand and eight somewhere around there. I
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 8: feel like maybe time goes by.
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  Speaker 6: It's just like I always say to people about the Meadlands.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: It's like if Lego built like football stadium, like that
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: is what the medal like. It's just such a generic
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: you know. What's funny is the old Medal Lands was phenomenal,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: like for its time. The New Metal Lands is terrible,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: well for its time.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Some of the amenities like we don't get to see them.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: But the club spaces are nice.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: They were one of the first teams to be inventive
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: with where they put clubs. You know, they had one
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: on the sideline and different levels of you know, because
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: they wanted to maximize the corporate base in New Jersey
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: and New York.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 5: It's so yeah, yeah, it's sterile.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I hate about it, like they've become
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: all like that, Like even like the old Boston Garden,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: like it just had such a feel to it and character,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: and so few professional sports arenas stadiums have any kind
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 8: of character.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: You know. What's a big topic. Actually, you know what
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: arena has that?
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: Your place?
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 8: Which one?
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 5: Indiana Indian Indiana basketball. Yeah, we actually one of the best.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: Scouting the Pacers. No, that was fun.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: We had fun. That's a great place to watch a game.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 8: But it's got And when we were there, Paul and
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: I was like, I don't even know what this means.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 8: When I'm like, it feels like a fieldhouse and I
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 8: don't know why.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: That means, Like it's just it kind of has that
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: game a lot of names.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: I will do a cap tip to baseball. A lot
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: of the baseball parks have that good A little bit.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: That's a good, that's a good. That's camping yards was
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: the original they started it.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even but even the new ones seem to
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: have they understand that, they understand that.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: But now it's like even this stadium and Tennessee kind
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: of the same same thing.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't know where you are.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: Too many, you know, like at least this has some
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: characteristics like the medal is just like this, like as
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: Eric Eric Evan said, just kind of generic, like an
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Erector set.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: Real quick though, speaking of en if you guys watched
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 8: the p w h L final last night, Boston lost unfortunately,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 8: but what an atmosphere there.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: They were going nuts.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: I did not, and I watched a lot of those
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 5: uh of that series. But yeah, it's too bad that
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: they got so thoroughly all played.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because great atmosphere, a lot of Speaking of women's sports,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: bart in Poland, did you watch the Osaka Sweitik match?
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Women's tennis at its finest? Isn't I of the best?
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: I did not see that.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 5: Oh I didn't realize Osaka was back in the yack
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: in the majors.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's back playing pretty well.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 8: French French Open right now?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: What are we French Open?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: And the point about stadiums is actually a pretty big topic.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: You know, we got to talk about the Celtics at
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: least once on this show. And actually in the NBA,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 6: the home court advantage UH is nowhere near as important
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 6: as it once was. In a big reason why some
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: people that cover this think it is is because all
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 6: the stadiums are now the same like they you know,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 6: it's all and it's all very very you know, top
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: notch to like you know, back in the day, like
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 6: the Boston Garden like used to have like dead spots
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 6: on the parquet, like Larry Bird would know where the
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 6: dead spot was, but some you know, a guy visiting
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: wouldn't have known. And you know, like they feel like
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 6: the conditions.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: But even from a noise standpoint where you know, you
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: would think you would get the home court advantage. You know,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: when your team's on defense, everyone's the only defense. But
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: when your team's on offense, they're going, let's go Celtics,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: it's just as loud, you know, and they're playing music now,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: you know, during possessions. So like from a noise standpoint,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's noisy whether or.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: Not you have the ball.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's all of it's so streamline now
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 6: where like every stadium in the NBA is just exactly
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 6: the same. And this eventually happened. Like hockey, there is
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 6: no really home ice advantage because it's literally the same
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: ice no matter where you play. And I feel like
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: that's happened in the NBA now too. So now like
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: teams went on the road in the NBA playoffs all
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: the time and that never used to happen.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 8: Makes you even wonder with like a team like the Bruins,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 8: maybe other teams, like there's almost more pressure playing at
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 8: home in front of your own fans, like rather than
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: like we're just on the road, just play loose, you know,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Claire in West Midlands, Hello everyone, Hello Marien. I'm
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: totally with Evan on his respect for mccordy. But for me,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: there should be two retired numbers and that's it. And
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: I'm wavy on the second one, twelve for sure, and
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: I'm really inclined for eighty seven, but I could be
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: persuaded against it. No, I'm with Duce. Let's see the
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: numbers back out.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: There, Claire, stick with your stick with your convictions the
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: tight ends. You want eighty seven, but.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: Think about it, Yeah, think about it.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: Though.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: Let's just say you went to the college route. Wouldn't
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: it be cool like when you rise to a level
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: at a tight end, you got to wear eighty seven.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: When you first come in you don't get to wear it.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: But like you make a Pro Bowl instead of you
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 6: become at all tired numbers a threshold when you get
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: to ye graduate.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's hard. That's hard to do because now
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 5: you're asking people to change their numbers as pros. A
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: lot of players don't want to do that.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: Like in college, you kind of give that number to
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 5: the guy that you're sort of anointing. Yeah, you know,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: this is the next big thing.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 8: Not usually often not names on the back either, So
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 8: you can just buy that jersey. But I can imagine
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 8: the sports meet debates would be fun, Like you know,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 8: I think, I mean, I think he's ready for eighty seven.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know he can't. No, no, not yet, you know, right,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: It's tough to change the number.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: Right, It's almost like that with number one right now,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 8: with like Polk, like the guy who gets number one.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, you gotta be good, like a little pressure.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: Brian writes in he's from Plymouth. When do you think
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: new uniforms we rolled out? Assuming it's inevitable with the
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: new regime, I personally would love a pat Patriot reboot,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: as the Flying Elves could use a rest.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't tie the new coaching staff to new uniforms.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: The owners are the same. It's not really a new
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 5: regime in that regard.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Well, they could go to the.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 5: They could, but that would be up to the craft Mayo.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 8: The Jets did a quick change, didn't they. Their their
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 8: uniforms changes here and I'm not sure how slightly, but
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 8: they had just a couple of years ago which I
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: actually liked their old uniforms. I don't know why they
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: had to change.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: Such a popular question that we get about. People hate
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 6: the Patriots uniforms and they want them change the.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: Blueberries, especially the blue beer, because they haven't played well lately.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: But this whole thing about the pat Patriot, people did
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: not like it back then, and now it's all nostalgia.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the blue I think the blueberry, like
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: the blue jersey, needs to just be paired with gray pants.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 6: When it's blue jersey gray pants, it looks great. When
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: it's the blueberry, it looks terrible.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 5: I don't like I didn't love pat Patriot, but I
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 5: don't remember people clamoring for new uniforms ever, and all
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 5: of a sudden they just showed up one year when
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: you know, they did have that sort of change when
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: wine came in and parcels came in and they went
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: to these blue uniforms.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember back then, like you know, I'm
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: talking seventies, eighties.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 5: I don't remember anybody clamoring.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: People weren't obsessed with like uniforms and helmets the way
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: they are now.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and they was so much better.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: I think Madden might have done a lot with that,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Like you can do the skins.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice, good use of that.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean I think you also see teams
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: like the Chargers that you have a number of different
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 8: uniforms night. You know, I think fans, you know, kind
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 8: of like that that novelty of you never know quite.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: What they're going to wear. Your City Connect uniform Connect
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: the Chargers.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 6: The Chargers are like are like the kings of everything
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: that doesn't matter, Like, oh, we have great uniforms, we
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 6: have uniforms, we have a great schedule release video.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: I told you last week, bad show.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: This week he's having a very strong show, very strong show.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: You brought your snark level up for I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan also says shout out to the YouTube live chat
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  Speaker 2: All right. Uh, let's see trying to wade through the
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  Speaker 2: movie once. Here's Ben and Hirshey. It's where almost to
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  Speaker 2: the end we can't open up that can of worms, now,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Ben and Hershey, I assume Pennsylvania. You have
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  Speaker 2: been to Hershey, Pennsylvania. I have been to Hershey Park,
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  Speaker 2: I have. Yeah, it's a great place.
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  Speaker 5: When I was, I was a really little good take.
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  Speaker 2: I stayed at the Hershey Park Hotel. Like the hotel
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  Speaker 2: as well in the hallways, like there's a smell of chocolate.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, and when you get to your room, they have
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  Speaker 5: complimentary Hershey like walk they like, which is exactly what
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  Speaker 5: I needed.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, I just turned the if you have
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  Speaker 2: young kids, Hershey Park's a good take.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was. We had a good time and there
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  Speaker 5: was a ridiculous deal on like a fast pass at
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  Speaker 5: that park, and it was like unbelievable how many times
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  Speaker 5: the kids had got to go on roller coaches. They
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  Speaker 5: just would like cut the line because we got a
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  Speaker 5: fast pass that was like fifty bucks or something like ridiculous.
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  Speaker 8: It's amazing when it works out like that at at
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  Speaker 8: theme park and you're able to like whether it's you
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  Speaker 8: kittered on the right day or you get a fast pass,
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  Speaker 8: because there's been other days where I'm like, I want
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  Speaker 8: three rides, and then there's other rides like Harry Potter
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  Speaker 8: at Universal where it's like three and a half hours
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  Speaker 8: from this point, Like, who was paying all this money
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  Speaker 8: is that to stand in line for half the day
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  Speaker 8: to ride like a two minute ride.
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  Speaker 6: I used to I've been to Disney a couple of times,
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  Speaker 6: but the best time was it was like one of
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  Speaker 6: those special like night time ones or they opened the
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  Speaker 6: park at at night. I think it's like Christmas time,
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  Speaker 6: and it's like nowhere near as many people because it's
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  Speaker 6: just like a sort of select like ticket to get
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  Speaker 6: in at night, and we rode like like every.
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  Speaker 2: Result like.
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  Speaker 12: That.
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  Speaker 7: If you're staying at a Disney Parks resort, you get
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  Speaker 7: to stay after.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was awesome. That was the best time because
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  Speaker 6: otherwise you're just waiting.
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  Speaker 5: I got to get in early once. I forget why,
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  Speaker 5: but like an hour before the park.
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  Speaker 2: If you stay in the park, you get her an
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  Speaker 2: hour early. Yeah, Ben In her she writes, I'm old
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  Speaker 2: enough to remember when Evan told us that the message
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: to fans if the Patriots draft Drake May should be
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: have patients. But apparently he is. After one practice, he's
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: already bemoaning the coaching staff for not giving May more reps.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: May could benefit from the second team reps, but he's
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: only one player on the field trying to get ready
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: for the season who is more likely to run the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: offense correctly so that proper evaluation can be made of
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: the wide receivers, the old line, tight ends, running back.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: ZAPPI your May. Last I checked. Football is a team sport. Yes,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: May's development is paramount to the long term success of
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: the team. But please don't pivot on your preach for
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: patients after one week of practice.
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: I'll jump in for defense like I think.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even understand what he's saying.
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  Speaker 8: He can be patient, but he wants him to get
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  Speaker 8: the experience. Now he's not saying like he needs to
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 8: play right now. He just wants him to start practicing
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: and getting these so that you can speed up.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: Because once we get to September and they're preparing for
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 6: the Bengals, he's not going to have time to practice, right.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 5: They're not if he doesn't play for like two years, Jesus, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's being like just because he said
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: be patient before it started, doesn't mean he's to be
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: happy about it or anybody else would be for that.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: And even when in order to get ready to play,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: you have to practice.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And even when I said be patient, I wasn't
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: necessarily even talking about like when he gets on the field.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: I more was talking about like the results of like
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 6: them winning being a contender all a sudden overnight. Like
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 6: that is when I was talking about, I don't know whatever,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 6: can't win?
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: You can win, all right, No you can't.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 8: You did win.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 5: You want it life?
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