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Fleetwood Mac's Ten Men On Guitar From Music Historian Scott G Shea · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 1: How about you, sir?
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Speaker 1: You've picked this subject time around that's going to be
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Speaker 1: riling up some feathers as well as people that are
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Speaker 1: gonna be going I didn't know that. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: did you land on Fleetwood Mac?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've always been I'm I mean, I'm
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Speaker 2: a huge fan. Yes, you know there's there's so many
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Speaker 2: different anniversaries and you try to tie things into it.
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Speaker 2: It was February, I guess, was the anniversary of Jeremy
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Speaker 2: Spencer's uh, just leaving the band. And I was always
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Speaker 2: kind of fascinated by that story that he just he
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Speaker 2: just left the hotel room and never came back, you know,
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Speaker 2: And that's always fascinated me. And then when you really
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Speaker 2: look at it, I mean, the whole slew of guitarists
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Speaker 2: they had, you know, up to and including Lindsey Buckingham,
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Speaker 2: had some kind of strange departure. You know, it was
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Speaker 2: not it was not normal. You know, it was mental
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Speaker 2: illness or drug abuse or or you know, fear, you know,
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Speaker 2: just fistfights, you know, and just it was just crazy.
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Speaker 2: So I just figured this is a this is a
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Speaker 2: really compelling subject to write about.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's very interesting because I expect those kind of
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Speaker 1: antics to come from a musician, especially a guitarist, because
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Speaker 1: they zip off into their own little world when they're
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Speaker 1: up there on that stage. And Lindsey Buckingham is definitely
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Speaker 1: one of those people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like NFL wide receivers, right, you know, the
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Speaker 2: good ones. They're like divas, you know, and they they
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Speaker 2: they ruffle a lot of feathers and they're very temperamental,
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Speaker 2: and you know, they're very essential, you know, especially for
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Speaker 2: a rock group. And they know it, you know, but
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's it's interesting just to see
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Speaker 2: you know it well. It The dichotomy is interesting because
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Speaker 2: if you had you know, when you factored in, I
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Speaker 2: guess freeware Max had ten guitarists in total when you
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Speaker 2: add Rick Vito and Billy Burnette and then Mike Campbell
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Speaker 2: and and and the other guy from Crowded House of
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Speaker 2: drawing a blank on his name. And now, so that
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Speaker 2: that's ten guitarists, you know, in in fifty years. And
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Speaker 2: but they've they've had the same rhythm section. They've had
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Speaker 2: John mcviee and Mick Fleetwood, you know. And so it's
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Speaker 2: it's on one hand you have complete instability and on
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Speaker 2: the other hand you have total stability.
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Speaker 1: Dude. I was that jock on the radio when when
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Speaker 1: Burnett came into the picture, and and I know, as
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Speaker 1: a jock, I was offended because it was like, what
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Speaker 1: are you doing to my Fleetwood? Mac and and and
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Speaker 1: and that, And I was so protective of that band
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Speaker 1: as a jock, mainly because I was AM radio and
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Speaker 1: I needed Fleetwood mac and I didn't need somebody playing
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Speaker 1: around on a guitar that I wasn't familiar with. But
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Speaker 1: then when you start doing the research on these guys
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Speaker 1: they brought into the band, it's like, shut up, jock,
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Speaker 1: let you know, come on, these guys really know what
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Speaker 1: they're doing. And I and I and I started respecting
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Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks as well as Mick Fleetwood even more because
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Speaker 1: you know, at least they kept trying to do music
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Speaker 1: no matter who was on that guitar.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, Billy Burnett is incredibly gifted and
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Speaker 2: county guitarist and comes from it comes from a musical family.
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Speaker 2: I think it's with dad was Dorsey Burnett the singer
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Speaker 2: and Johnny Burnette. If you're sixteen and you know the
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Speaker 2: Johnny Burnett trio was, you know, a rockabilly pioneering group
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Speaker 2: in the fifties. But I get what you're saying that
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Speaker 2: as the same way, it's like I don't know who
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Speaker 2: you know. I'm such and still am a Lindsay Buckingham fan.
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Speaker 2: That it's it's I can't listen to them without him
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Speaker 2: in it. I mean, I have the albums. I can't
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Speaker 2: say I go to him that often. You know, I'm
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Speaker 2: a completst.
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Speaker 1: Well, his last one I really got into. And I
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Speaker 1: know that it's not because Christine. This is the final
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Speaker 1: work of Christine mcviee. But my god, I got to
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Speaker 1: really hear Lindsey Buckingham as a musician and not somebody
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Speaker 1: that was part of several different musicians.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for real. I mean, and his solo albums
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Speaker 2: are believable, are Yeah, they're they're well, you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to say that they're on par with Leam
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Speaker 2: because they're kind of inconsistent, but they have moments of greatness.
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Speaker 2: And but you know, even like like with all of
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Speaker 2: their solo stuff, you kind of gravitate to the songs
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Speaker 2: that kind of sound like Fleewood Max songs. You know,
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Speaker 2: like like going Thing sounded like a fleeing with Max song,
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Speaker 2: stand Back sounds like a flea with Mac soone. You know,
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Speaker 2: got a hold on me. It sounds like a fleaing
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Speaker 2: with Max song. So those are you know, those are
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Speaker 2: the ones I gravitate too. In fact, I always feel
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Speaker 2: like how they work together in eighty four they would
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Speaker 2: have put out one hell of an album.
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Speaker 1: Well, you bring up people in the band when you
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Speaker 1: talk about there's been ten different lead guitarists in the band.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, you know. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I need to blame the history books that I
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Speaker 1: studied inside. If you were to walk into my control
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Speaker 1: room while I was the Interrestrial Radio, it was a
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Speaker 1: freaking mess, dude, because I had all those history books
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Speaker 1: in there, But then I didn't have you because you
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Speaker 1: bring something to this, to this page that is like
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Speaker 1: I didn't know it. And now I feel like, give
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Speaker 1: me back my radio years so I can go back
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Speaker 1: here and talk about this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's you know, it's just one of those things.
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Speaker 2: It's like when you have, you know, forces like Stevie
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Speaker 2: Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham and come into the group and
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Speaker 2: just lift them up into the stratasty and just I
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Speaker 2: mean keep in mind, you know, figlad Mac did not
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Speaker 2: have any top forty US hits before Buckingham and Nix
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Speaker 2: entered the picture. So it's not like you should know, Oh,
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Speaker 2: Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kerwin and Peter Green, you know,
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Speaker 2: the guys were their original maybe if you lived in England,
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Speaker 2: where it was a different story, where they started off
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Speaker 2: as a very successful British blues act that had several
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Speaker 2: number one hits before Buckingham and Knicks, then that's understandable.
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Speaker 2: But here it wasn't that way. I mean, you had.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's almost like they became a new band.
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Speaker 2: I was reading the comment from someone who responded to
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Speaker 2: my article the other day. It said that, you know,
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Speaker 2: Fleg with Mac eventually became Buckingham Mix when they joined,
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Speaker 2: and you know, I agree to it, and I don't
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Speaker 2: completely agree. You know, I think it was a I
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Speaker 2: think they joined forces. I mean, I Buckingham Nicks did
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Speaker 2: not have the incredible rhythm section of an incredible drumming,
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Speaker 2: particularly Mick Fleewood that they had, you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: when you look at look at all their solo albums,
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Speaker 2: I mean almost at least they have at least one
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Speaker 2: where Mick Fleewood's the drummer on every song. You know,
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Speaker 2: they always brought him in and so but you know,
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Speaker 2: when you when you have them come in and they
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Speaker 2: put out you know, the Fleetwood Mac seventy five album
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Speaker 2: and then then Rumors and then Tusk you know, it's
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Speaker 2: just it's like Elvis Presley. You know, it's like you
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Speaker 2: forget everything that came before it.
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Speaker 1: Please don't move. We've got lots of Fleetwood Mac to
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Speaker 1: talk about with Scott ge Shea Fleetwood Mac. First of all,
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Speaker 1: I'm still blown away that they had ten different guitarists.
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Speaker 1: Did not know, and I've been in radio for forty
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Speaker 1: six years, did not know. But Scotch g Shea has known.
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Speaker 1: Has it always been mixed band? And the reason why
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Speaker 1: is because kudos to him. Never in my heart did
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Speaker 1: I ever feel like that, you know, like like when
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Speaker 1: when it when it comes to Van Halen, it was
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Speaker 1: Eddie's band, When it came to Kiss, it was Gene
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Speaker 1: and Paul. I never once said I ever sit there
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Speaker 1: and say, well, this is mixed band. No. I always
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Speaker 1: thought it was their band. They they they proved me
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Speaker 1: unity and so in with Alexa and with with with
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Speaker 1: YouTube and stuff like that. I go back and I
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Speaker 1: listened to it. Now, everything that you're putting in here
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Speaker 1: gives me the chance to go back there and listen
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Speaker 1: to it. Going, my God, the roots of where they
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Speaker 1: became are sitting right here. And until we got this
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Speaker 1: from you I I didn't know what even existed.
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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't say it was always mixed band. It
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Speaker 2: started off as Peter Green's band, yes, but it became
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Speaker 2: it became mixed band. And and Nick was the first
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Speaker 2: guy to join. So I think he had a sense
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Speaker 2: of ownership. And like I said in the article, there
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Speaker 2: was when Peter Green left, there was kind of a
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Speaker 2: soft power play. I don't think anybody really knew what
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Speaker 2: to do in that instance, because you're trying to replace,
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Speaker 2: you know, a force like Peter Green. Uh and and
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Speaker 2: but you know, it seemed like Jeremy Spencer won the
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Speaker 2: battle because he had He seemed to be there. The
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Speaker 2: the album that came out after he left Kiln House,
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Speaker 2: it was almost completely dominated by Jeremy Spencer, and it
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Speaker 2: was a hodgepodge of just weirdness. I mean, it was just,
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Speaker 2: you know, he was obsessed with fifties music and making
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Speaker 2: it sound and you know, and I love fifties music,
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Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But like he tried to he
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Speaker 2: tried to be funny, and he wasn't really a funny guy.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's just humor kind of rubbed people. He
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Speaker 2: rubbed me the wrong way. But you know, he and
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Speaker 2: just doing odd covers. He did like an odd Bobby
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Speaker 2: V cover. You know, did Mission Bell by Donnie Brooks,
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Speaker 2: which was which was a hit in nineteen sixty one.
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Speaker 2: But you know it's just kind of obscure. It's just
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Speaker 2: weird stuff. And even you know, he did like a
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Speaker 2: rockabilly and like a hokey honky Tonks parody, and the
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Speaker 2: songs that you know were done by Danny Kerwin on
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Speaker 2: that album are really the strongest songs. And just Jeremy
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Speaker 2: I think he just eventually folded under the pressure. And
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Speaker 2: when when when you can see like when they were
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Speaker 2: on that tour and and and Jared me you know,
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Speaker 2: wanted to end it because he had these premonitions that
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Speaker 2: something bad was going to happen in Los Angeles. You know,
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Speaker 2: Mick Fleetwood said no. So it's like, you know, at
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Speaker 2: that point it became Mix Fleetwood, it became his band.
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Speaker 2: You know, it had his name on it. His name
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Speaker 2: was first. And so I think even when Buckingham and Nick,
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Speaker 2: I think he gave Lindsay a lot of leeway, you know,
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Speaker 2: when it came to recording, especially during the Tusk album.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I think I think Nick Mick is
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Speaker 2: very proprietory about that band, and rightly so well.
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Speaker 1: I think one of the greatest connections that I've had
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Speaker 1: has been with kN Khalay. And what I love about
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Speaker 1: him is that he had that one chapter where everything
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Speaker 1: you just said about the way the band is mixing
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Speaker 1: all that, but he had it with with the Fleetwood
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Speaker 1: Mac that we know. But it's always been going on,
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Speaker 1: because even the story with Bob Welch and stuff. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's it's always been that turmoil. But God dang if
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Speaker 1: for some way, in some reason, they were able to
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Speaker 1: turn that turmoil into music.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for real and and and raise the game and
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Speaker 2: make you know, better music, and you know, it's I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I just it's it's it's incredible that they
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Speaker 2: they they lucked into Stevie Nicks and uh and Lindsey
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Speaker 2: Buckingham and let's just say, I mean, Stevie Nicks became
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Speaker 2: the face of the band, you know, and still is.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's it may be mixed band, uh Ste
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Speaker 2: Lindsay may be guiding the sound because you know, I
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Speaker 2: the guitar work on Stevie songs like Gypsy and stuff
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Speaker 2: like there's no ways I know the song is credited
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Speaker 2: to Stevie Nicks, but she didn't come up with that rift.
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Speaker 2: That was that's that's Lindsay Buckingham rift, you know. And
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Speaker 2: but you know, but she was an incredible force, uh
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Speaker 2: you know, and an icon. I mean, my daughter loves
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Speaker 2: her and my daughter's you know, fifteen years old. So
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Speaker 2: it's just it just seems to transcend all generations.
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Speaker 1: I can't be the only one that does not want
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Speaker 1: to see Fleetwood Mac live. I really have made it
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Speaker 1: a point. And the reason why is is because I
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Speaker 1: don't want to ruined what I experienced, what I discovered Rumors,
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Speaker 1: and because it had moved me so big. It was
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Speaker 1: my Beatles moment and so and I feel like that
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Speaker 1: if I see them live, it's going to take away
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Speaker 1: from that childhood memory and Billings Montana of the day
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Speaker 1: that I opened up that Rumors album.
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Speaker 2: Well you know, I I'm with you on that. But
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Speaker 2: I did see him live. I you know, I didn't
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Speaker 2: want to see them with I wanted to see the
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Speaker 2: classic five lineup like I wouldn't see them any other way.
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Speaker 2: And when Christine McVie rejoined in what twenty fourteen or
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Speaker 2: twenty twelve or something like that. We went and saw
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Speaker 2: him in Philadelphia and it was a great show, Lindsey.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he just shredded in on the live version
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Speaker 2: of I'm So Afraid, and it's just it's just incredible
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Speaker 2: to just see him perform. And then I saw him
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Speaker 2: and Christine McVie when they performed together. They put out
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Speaker 2: that album Buckinghem mcveee a few years later, and I
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Speaker 2: saw them in New York City at a smaller theater
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Speaker 2: and it was as the in theater as a matter
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Speaker 2: of fact, for the Almer Brothers had so many legendary concerts, uh,
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Speaker 2: and you know it was it was great. I was
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Speaker 2: blown away. So I'm glad I saw them live when
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Speaker 2: I did. I wouldn't see them any other way. I
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Speaker 2: didn't didn't want to go see them with Nielsen and
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Speaker 2: and Mike Campbell as much as I respect, you know,
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Speaker 2: I love Proud of the House and I love Tom Petty,
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Speaker 2: but you know, you know, I want to see Fleetwood Mac.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would you know what I wanted to see.
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Speaker 2: I was always kind of hopeful that, you know, in
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Speaker 2: the introim, that Mick and John would reunite with Jeremy
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Speaker 2: Spencer and uh, Peter Green and and well and there
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Speaker 2: was talk about that at one point and uh and
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Speaker 2: they you know, Danny Curwin was kind of a you know,
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Speaker 2: he was homeless and he had mental illness and there
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Speaker 2: was no way he was going to rejoin. But I
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Speaker 2: would have definitely gone and sold that incarnage and fleet
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Speaker 2: with Mac five.
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Speaker 1: Is there any way that we can get radio jocks
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Speaker 1: to stop talking about how Eric Clapton was part of this?
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Speaker 1: At one point in time with Peter Green, I realized
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Speaker 1: that there was a stance, something did happen. But but
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that Eric Clapton has to get all
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Speaker 1: the credit because it makes it look like we went
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Speaker 1: from Eric Clapton right into Lindsey Buckingham.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it is amazing how many artists eric Clapton
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Speaker 2: has touched and influence, you know the way it is like,
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Speaker 2: you know, he replaced Eric Clapton in John Male's Boothbreakers,
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Speaker 2: and that was that was no talk, That was no
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Speaker 2: small task. That was you know, they were an ornery
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Speaker 2: fan base to please and those were big shoots to fill.
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Speaker 2: But Peter Green did. But they sound nothing alike, you know,
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Speaker 2: they they sound nothing alike and really, Eric Clapton had
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Speaker 2: had nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: you know, other than that that kind of relation, but
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Speaker 2: you know he was so influicher. I mean when when
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Speaker 2: Freewood Mac transitioned from their first to you know, first
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Speaker 2: two years, was just then playing the blues, you know,
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Speaker 2: everything sounded like dust my broom, you know. And then
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Speaker 2: then they wanted they wanted to sound more like Cream
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Speaker 2: and Jimmy Hendrix and contemporary art theirs, and they brought
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Speaker 2: in Danny Kerwin and you know, they became a much
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Speaker 2: more contemporary sounding and gave us songs like Black Magic
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Speaker 2: Woman and Oh Well and Brattlesnake Shake and Coming Your
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Speaker 2: Way and you know it's just and then the beautiful
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Speaker 2: instrumental Albatross, which I encourage all your listeners to go
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Speaker 2: listen to that if you want to listen to a
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Speaker 2: historical piece of pre Buckingham mixed Fleet with Mac and
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Speaker 2: it's just an instrumental, but it went to number one
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Speaker 2: in England in nineteen seventy and it is just a
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Speaker 2: beautiful piece of music.
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Speaker 1: I would love to see Cameron do a biopick with
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Speaker 1: with Fleetwood Mac, but they have to contact you though,
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Speaker 1: because you're the one that's done the homework. You're the
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Speaker 1: one that's going to go in there and dig in
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Speaker 1: and get nasty with you know, with the storylines and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. But there needs to be a biopick.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, do you think fans would
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Speaker 1: support a biopick if somebody is playing the part of
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Speaker 1: Stevin X or even Christine mcviee.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I like kind of like I
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Speaker 2: wanted with the Mamas in the pop as. I don't
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Speaker 2: know if I'll pick is enough time. I think I
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Speaker 2: think like a Netflix series where with you know, like
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Speaker 2: ten or twelve forty five minute episodes would probably cover
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Speaker 2: that band a lot better. But I would love to
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Speaker 2: write for something like that. That would be awesome, you know,
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Speaker 2: But we'll see, you know, there's a you know, it's
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Speaker 2: it is an incredible story and there's a reason that
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Speaker 2: hasn't been told yet. Those people they might not be
16:26
Speaker 2: ready to sign off on something like that.
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Speaker 1: Where's the book out? When it comes to Whaling Jennings,
16:30
Speaker 1: where you at in getting that thing already?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's been greenlit so by my publisher, so it
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Speaker 2: supposed to be out next year, Like maybe next October,
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Speaker 2: and I am about four chapters away from being done
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Speaker 2: and just chugging all along and enjoying it. It's such
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Speaker 2: as such a fun book to write, such a fun
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Speaker 2: story to tell.
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Speaker 1: That's what I love about you as being a journalist
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Speaker 1: as well as a fan of music. Is the fact
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Speaker 1: that you're not afraid to share it. And number two,
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Speaker 1: you're not afraid to do the work. And I want
17:03
Speaker 1: listeners to understand that when they go to your website
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Speaker 1: and they find your stuff, or even when they go
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Speaker 1: to serious exam is the fact that I mean that
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Speaker 1: you are doing your homework and this is the real deal.
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Speaker 1: This makes you a real broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate the compliment. You know. It's uh, it's
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Speaker 2: it's it's you know, it's not work when you when
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Speaker 2: it's fun, you know, so it's it's to me, it's fun.
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Speaker 2: There's just so many resources out there. I couldn't imagine
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Speaker 2: era what it was like to write pre internet. Oh god,
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Speaker 2: you know, to to not have these and listen, I
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Speaker 2: still could have done it. I would have done it,
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Speaker 2: you know. There there's ways, you know, I lived pre
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Speaker 2: Internet a long time, you know, and it got along
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Speaker 2: just while but there are so many people. There's so
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Speaker 2: you can read. I've reached so many people that touched
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Speaker 2: Whalen or were involved with him in some way thanks
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Speaker 2: to the Internet and social media and websites and uh
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Speaker 2: you know, and Google maps and newspaper archives, and it's
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Speaker 2: just there's just so many things that you wasted that
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Speaker 2: that would have would it would have taken you much
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Speaker 2: much longer before the days of the Internet. So the
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Speaker 2: internet's not all It's not all bad.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it was like. You found yourself
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Speaker 1: at a lot of libraries getting the Britannica Encyclopedia. You
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Speaker 1: also found yourself at real record stores with authentic fans
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Speaker 1: of music who happen to have these books in the
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Speaker 1: back room. And you went to antique stores. Dude, I
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Speaker 1: mean you. It wasn't like, oh, I'm going to do
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Speaker 1: a fifteen second breakover a song. Hell no, you did
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Speaker 1: your homework and you got your hands dirty, right.
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Speaker 2: I was in I was in college pre internet, so
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Speaker 2: I remember being on the microfiche and all that. You know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so wow, where can people go to find out
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Speaker 1: more about you because you are the real deal, dude?
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Speaker 2: Well, thank you. They can go to Scott sha author
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Speaker 2: dot com. That's Chase Felt sah A. It'll give you
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Speaker 2: links to all my socials. You can read all my
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Speaker 2: articles and check out some of my interviews.
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Speaker 1: One of these days. You got to be a fly
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Speaker 1: on the wall when I get that with that letter
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Speaker 1: from Rebecca, because I do. I laugh like a child
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Speaker 1: when I see what your next subject is, because I'm going,
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Speaker 1: only you, only you. You're you're the one that would
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Speaker 1: that would pull this stunt off, and then of course
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Speaker 1: you dive into it and you're going, oh my god, I'm
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Speaker 1: more whole because of you.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate it, man, Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Well, you got to come back to this show. You
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Speaker 1: know that door is always going to be open.
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Speaker 2: Dude, I know. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: You'd be brilliant.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you too, Ra, Thanks you by bye.