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- 0:09Speaker 1: Jus, you still reform it.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Tonight more Islamic state brains are coming back to Australia
- 0:18Speaker 2: an Australian protests is slam Israel for stopping their ships
- 0:21Speaker 2: from bringing food to Gaza. We're ment are actually in
- 0:23Speaker 2: the gym trying to lose weight. The fact check of
- 0:27Speaker 2: that coming up. Angus Taylor trips up on a viewers
- 0:30Speaker 2: question on Sky last night.
- 0:32Speaker 3: I hate hearing you say that we needed to get
- 0:35Speaker 3: rid of net zero? Mike, will you formally withdrawt from
- 0:39Speaker 3: the Paris Agreement?
- 0:42Speaker 2: And plenty more coming up, including mccanavan and Sean Spicer
- 0:46Speaker 2: on Donald Trump's slats threat. But first, Anthony Albany's budget
- 0:51Speaker 2: today turned from a disaster to a political catastrophe. The
- 0:55Speaker 2: premise of today was treated as a liar and a fool,
- 0:59Speaker 2: a figure of ridicule and contempt. I think you know
- 1:03Speaker 2: harsh words, but wait until I show you the devastating footage.
- 1:09Speaker 2: But first the context. Albany's his biggest mistake in this
- 1:12Speaker 2: budget wasn't just to lie to break a promise that
- 1:15Speaker 2: he said he'd made fifty times to not change negative gearing,
- 1:20Speaker 2: not change the capital gains tax discount. He also made
- 1:24Speaker 2: a critical mistake that you might expect from a prime
- 1:27Speaker 2: minister who's never run a business, who was instead worked
- 1:31Speaker 2: for a wage almost all this life, like his treasurer.
- 1:34Speaker 2: By the way, how Many's mistake there was to resent
- 1:37Speaker 2: people who instead made money by taking a risk, by
- 1:42Speaker 2: building a business or even just investing in it. You see,
- 1:47Speaker 2: Albany's this big cut to the capital gains tax discount
- 1:50Speaker 2: won't just hit people investing in housing, like he's been implying.
- 1:55Speaker 2: It also hits people who invest in shares or sell
- 1:59Speaker 2: a business that they created or built up into something big. Now,
- 2:05Speaker 2: to elm and Easy, the entrepreneurs should be taxed as
- 2:08Speaker 2: hard and as mercilessly as say a public servant here
- 2:13Speaker 2: he is yesterday.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Just as when you, as a worker, pay tax on
- 2:20Speaker 4: the income that you receive. What they will do when
- 2:24Speaker 4: it comes to capital gains tax is to return to
- 2:27Speaker 4: the pre nineteen ninety nine position, which is to be
- 2:30Speaker 4: taxed on real gains, so the gain less inflation to
- 2:36Speaker 4: be taken into account. That is better, aligning income from
- 2:40Speaker 4: work with income from assets. That's called tax reform.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Oh is it? Now? That's actually so wrong, because the
- 2:51Speaker 2: two sources of income aren't equal. Entrepreneurs and those who
- 2:57Speaker 2: invest in them. They create jobs, they create wealth, They
- 3:00Speaker 2: create taxes for the country. The wage taker not so much.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Not so much entrepreneurs christ failure, even bankruptcy to create
- 3:11Speaker 2: a mine or a Microsoft, or even an airline or whatever.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Without them, this country goes backwards. They need to be
- 3:19Speaker 2: encouraged incentives. On the other hand, if you work for
- 3:22Speaker 2: a government, say your job is safe, no risk, so
- 3:29Speaker 2: no wonder that small business owners are outraged. So suddenly
- 3:32Speaker 2: find that albert Easy is now taking up to forty
- 3:34Speaker 2: seven percent of their business or the capital gain on
- 3:37Speaker 2: them if they sell, and they are now mocking alban
- 3:41Speaker 2: Easy with a campaign of memes about how they put
- 3:45Speaker 2: in the sweat, and Albert Easy now helps himself to
- 3:48Speaker 2: the profits without having done a lick of work or
- 3:51Speaker 2: taken a single risk in building it as it. Landscapes,
- 3:56Speaker 2: for instance, says it's excited to announce the winner of
- 3:59Speaker 2: its employ of the month for May is Albow. Albo
- 4:03Speaker 2: has come in hard and strong, rolled up his sleeves,
- 4:06Speaker 2: it said, pushed hard, and has also come on board
- 4:09Speaker 2: and taken a forty seven percent equity in the business.
- 4:12Speaker 2: A custom joinery business says, Meet Anthony Alberinesi, the new
- 4:16Speaker 2: forty seven percent owner of the Everlast Group, a cleaning
- 4:20Speaker 2: company in Hawkesbury, says, we are thrilled to announce that
- 4:24Speaker 2: Anthony Albanesi now owns a completely accidental forty seven percent
- 4:28Speaker 2: steak in Bonnie Clean and Co. Despite never touching him.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Mop answering a client call or making a single bed
- 4:36Speaker 2: a sunscreen company says introducing our latest equity partner who
- 4:40Speaker 2: takes forty seven percent without doing a single thing, And
- 4:43Speaker 2: on and on it goes mockery made even more damaging
- 4:48Speaker 2: for the government because it's a grassroots protest. No one
- 4:52Speaker 2: organized it. The premise to today tried to treat it
- 4:56Speaker 2: all as a hey, it's a joke.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Some of them are very fluttering and I thank them
- 5:02Speaker 4: for picking very nice photos of me, and I thank
- 5:07Speaker 4: them for that.
- 5:09Speaker 2: There others in the government suggests that it's all the
- 5:11Speaker 2: bit unfair because you know there is help for business
- 5:14Speaker 2: in this budget. But Laughlin Harris, who has been in
- 5:18Speaker 2: business and used to be a senior advisor to labor
- 5:21Speaker 2: Preme Minister Kevin Rudd, says, well, actually no, these budget
- 5:25Speaker 2: changes are a mistake. He says we, meaning his Labor Party,
- 5:29Speaker 2: we need to reverse that measure to ensure the capital
- 5:32Speaker 2: gains tax change only applies to residential property. It is
- 5:37Speaker 2: a very significant change to the incentive structure of starting
- 5:41Speaker 2: a business and employing people, by which he means, of course,
- 5:46Speaker 2: that these taxes will punish people starting the new businesses
- 5:50Speaker 2: that this country very badly needs. Now. I said at
- 5:56Speaker 2: the time of this budget that the government's going to
- 5:59Speaker 2: pay terrible price for lying when it said before the
- 6:03Speaker 2: last election would not make these changes. And Albanez he
- 6:06Speaker 2: today learned in a disastrous car crash press conference in Perth,
- 6:13Speaker 2: the terrible price of losing his honor, of being a
- 6:17Speaker 2: man whose word was worthless. He became a clown. Now
- 6:23Speaker 2: Albanzi was asked on the front page of the West
- 6:25Speaker 2: Australian newspaper if he could be trusted now to keep
- 6:27Speaker 2: his promise not to change a GST carve up that's
- 6:32Speaker 2: actually crazily generous to the state, a promise he signed
- 6:36Speaker 2: on the arm of a reporter two years ago. But
- 6:38Speaker 2: how would he now keep this promise after having broken
- 6:42Speaker 2: promises in this budget, so brazenly promises he made just
- 6:46Speaker 2: last year. Well, then came the press conference, and I've
- 6:51Speaker 2: never heard reporters treat Albanezi with such contempt.
- 7:00Speaker 4: For in future, we support w A getting its fair
- 7:04Speaker 4: share of the GSC because that's the right policy.
- 7:06Speaker 1: You may both guarantee.
- 7:08Speaker 5: Of course. Well, I've been very consistent.
- 7:13Speaker 6: Fifty times, I've been very fary.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I've been very consistent about w A, and I reaffirmed
- 7:21Speaker 4: that that's the government's position.
- 7:22Speaker 5: We're consistent on negative hearing fifty times.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Do you need to say it?
- 7:25Speaker 2: Fifty one times?
- 7:26Speaker 4: We've just handed we have handed down our position. I've
- 7:29Speaker 4: been very clear.
- 7:30Speaker 5: Can your word be trusted?
- 7:31Speaker 6: Now that you've broach the premier election from.
- 7:33Speaker 5: Them, I'll continue to back w A.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Even Labor Premier Roger Cook was dragged into this farce.
- 7:44Speaker 7: Trust Do you trust.
- 7:45Speaker 8: The prime minister's word of the unisy?
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yep?
- 7:49Speaker 1: You do you trust what the prime ministers?
- 7:50Speaker 6: Aren't you?
- 7:52Speaker 2: Absolutely? The Prime Minister's given us a rock solid commitment
- 7:55Speaker 2: that WREST in Australia would share we'll receive its fair
- 7:58Speaker 2: share of the GSC.
- 7:59Speaker 6: Security back with.
- 8:00Speaker 8: Any for another guarantee.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Wrong, there's no such thing now as a rock solid
- 8:06Speaker 2: commitment from this Prime minister. What Albanezi doesn't get is
- 8:11Speaker 2: that a politician cannot say, well, I lied before, trust
- 8:16Speaker 2: me today I won't. His honor is gone and Albanizy
- 8:20Speaker 2: today looked like a prime minister whose power is now
- 8:24Speaker 2: as broken as his word. Now watch our opposition leader
- 8:33Speaker 2: Angus Taylor last night talking to our Paul Marray here
- 8:36Speaker 2: on sky for an hour answering questions. Now. I said
- 8:40Speaker 2: after the Pharaoh by election that Taylor looked like a
- 8:43Speaker 2: dead man walking after the Liberals were utterly thrashed by
- 8:46Speaker 2: One Nation, And today, you know, I'd be looking like
- 8:50Speaker 2: a man who'd spoken too soon, spoken too soon after
- 8:53Speaker 2: this government's disastrous budget and Taylor's very strong response two
- 8:58Speaker 2: days later, which I praised, except of course there's still
- 9:03Speaker 2: One Nation and it is still ahead of the Coalition
- 9:07Speaker 2: all the recent polls, and asked that Taylor said one
- 9:09Speaker 2: thing which made me think, hmm, see, this is one
- 9:12Speaker 2: of the big problems Taylor does now agree with One
- 9:16Speaker 2: Nation leader Paul in Hanson, you had a mass immigration
- 9:19Speaker 2: must be slashed, for instance, and net zero climate policies
- 9:23Speaker 2: they must be axd. But can we actually trust the
- 9:28Speaker 2: Liberals to follow through? And I know now another person
- 9:33Speaker 2: who doubts it. It's Brett Now. Brett is a viewer
- 9:36Speaker 2: who rang in last night to ask Taylor a question
- 9:40Speaker 2: on Paul Murray's show about the UN Paris Agreement that
- 9:43Speaker 2: we'd foolishly signed to agree to the net zero target,
- 9:47Speaker 2: and his question got a response which left poor Brett
- 9:51Speaker 2: shaking his head in disappointment.
- 9:54Speaker 5: Yeah, Gay, Angus, I hate hearing you.
- 9:56Speaker 3: Say that we needed to get rid of net zero?
- 10:00Speaker 3: Will you formally withdraw from the Paris Agreement?
- 10:03Speaker 9: Thanks Brett, Thanks Brett, Thanks for the question. Look, we
- 10:05Speaker 9: will get rid of we will get rid of NED zero.
- 10:08Speaker 9: We're not proposing to get out of the Paris Agreement because, frankly,
- 10:12Speaker 9: it's not going to change anything we do.
- 10:14Speaker 5: Why would you want the Paris Agreement trash?
- 10:17Speaker 2: What is it about that agreement that is so important
- 10:20Speaker 2: for you?
- 10:23Speaker 3: I just think that actions speak louder than words. Paul
- 10:28Speaker 3: make if you're prepared to get rid of that zero,
- 10:31Speaker 3: why not get rid of the agreement?
- 10:35Speaker 2: Excellent question now, and you know Angus Taylor's defense, I've
- 10:39Speaker 2: got to say. He leads a liberal party. It has
- 10:41Speaker 2: also got left wingers, some very much to the left,
- 10:44Speaker 2: such as Senator Andrew MacLachlan, who the Agency gave no
- 10:48Speaker 2: minutes of radio time today to attack Taylor's new conservative pitch.
- 10:53Speaker 10: You cannot you should not approach migration as a negative.
- 10:57Speaker 10: I think the use of the word mass migration and
- 11:00Speaker 10: for example, is not acceptible. And I've been on record
- 11:05Speaker 10: perhaps before on your program in relation to that. He
- 11:09Speaker 10: creates anxiety and fear in the community.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Now McLaughlin is also a climate change mystic. It's the
- 11:16Speaker 2: celt in him, he says. He says nature must be
- 11:19Speaker 2: at the center of all decision making, which is spoken
- 11:21Speaker 2: like a true neopagan. There is no coherent reason to
- 11:25Speaker 2: run away from a net zero target. We'll join him
- 11:28Speaker 2: as the leader of the other coalition party, Nationals leader
- 11:31Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, our regular Tuesday commentator, Matt Canavan, always great
- 11:35Speaker 2: to see you. Now. Look, you have often said, including
- 11:38Speaker 2: on this show, that Australia should get out of the
- 11:40Speaker 2: Paris Agreement, and that refused to say the same way
- 11:44Speaker 2: is that.
- 11:47Speaker 1: We don't have time to waste on side quests. Andrew.
- 11:51Speaker 11: We've got to get rid of this terrible government. We've
- 11:54Speaker 11: got to start building coul fire power stations again.
- 11:56Speaker 1: We've got to scrap a zero.
- 11:58Speaker 11: We've got to, of course a pose these terrible broken
- 12:01Speaker 11: promises and taxes last week, and we've got to end
- 12:05Speaker 11: the mass migration that the Labor Party has unleashed since COVID.
- 12:08Speaker 11: They're my main quest, they're the boss rounds. We've got
- 12:12Speaker 11: to win. We don't have time to run around on
- 12:16Speaker 11: symbolic gestures which are not going to do any of
- 12:18Speaker 11: those things. Keep in mind, it's very important to make
- 12:22Speaker 11: the point that net zero is not enshrined in the
- 12:25Speaker 11: Paris Agreement. In Paris Agreement, in fact, is not a
- 12:28Speaker 11: legally buying document. But to the extent you do take
- 12:31Speaker 11: it seriously, all you have to do are three things.
- 12:33Speaker 11: You have to set a target, you have to pursue
- 12:34Speaker 11: measures against that target, and you need to report progress.
- 12:40Speaker 11: We've done all those things for many, many years. Other
- 12:42Speaker 11: countries that are in the Paris Agreement do those things
- 12:45Speaker 11: and buildqual five power stations and expand the royal industry
- 12:48Speaker 11: and are getting energy prices down. Those are the things
- 12:51Speaker 11: I'm focused on, and I understand why people want what
- 12:56Speaker 11: at all, But normally in life.
- 12:59Speaker 1: When you try and pursue it all, you end up
- 13:02Speaker 1: with nothing.
- 13:04Speaker 2: But matt If you've already said no to NET zero.
- 13:06Speaker 2: You've got to say no to the Parish Agreement, which,
- 13:09Speaker 2: despite what you say, does suggest indeed and zero take.
- 13:12Speaker 2: But the point is you said the exact opposite of
- 13:16Speaker 2: you and the only reason you've fallen.
- 13:18Speaker 1: You said it. You said it, Yeah, no, but.
- 13:21Speaker 2: You said the opposite last you've written it also.
- 13:26Speaker 1: He doesn't require it, no, Matt.
- 13:30Speaker 2: But the point is if someone if if you can't dare,
- 13:34Speaker 2: if you change your mind now on getting rid of
- 13:38Speaker 2: the Paris Agreement, which you were all in favor of
- 13:40Speaker 2: last year, it suggests you have to go along because
- 13:43Speaker 2: the liberal stain of the guts to actually go that
- 13:46Speaker 2: extra mile? Is that really the situation?
- 13:48Speaker 11: Because I prioritize getting rid of net zero, and I
- 13:51Speaker 11: prioritize the most important thing we've got to do. Life
- 13:55Speaker 11: is about choices. Keep in mind that Barnaby Joyce signed
- 13:58Speaker 11: up to NET zero. Up to it, he was Deputy
- 14:00Speaker 11: Prime Minister, and he's in't a one nation party now
- 14:03Speaker 11: and I hope you question him as much about his
- 14:05Speaker 11: change of mind. In fact, in fact, Barnaby Joyce was
- 14:07Speaker 11: a member of the cabinet, the Abbot cabinet that signed
- 14:10Speaker 11: up to the Paris Agreement.
- 14:11Speaker 1: I wasn't.
- 14:11Speaker 11: I was a backbencher, but I supported that at the
- 14:14Speaker 11: time because you really, as I said earlier, the Paris
- 14:17Speaker 11: Agreement doesn't require you to do much. Now, when we
- 14:19Speaker 11: sign up to net zero, I thought, well, we've gone
- 14:22Speaker 11: way too far here, and I have opposed that from
- 14:25Speaker 11: day one, Unlike Barnaby, unlike other members of the nearly
- 14:29Speaker 11: fan newfound members of the One Nation Party, I haven't
- 14:32Speaker 11: done that. And so yes, Barnaby's part of the moderate
- 14:35Speaker 11: faction of the One Nation Party, having signed up to
- 14:37Speaker 11: net zero before, I've been one hundred percent against it
- 14:41Speaker 11: and I'm pursuing that goal and I'm not going to
- 14:45Speaker 11: be deterred from that because we've got to get rid
- 14:47Speaker 11: of this labor government. And if we want to, as
- 14:49Speaker 11: I say, pursue these side quests, we.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Won't do that. And we'll all be very pure.
- 14:55Speaker 11: We'll all pat ourselves on our back about how stoic
- 15:00Speaker 11: we are. But as the saying goes Andrew, only the
- 15:05Speaker 11: only the impotent are pure. And I don't want to
- 15:07Speaker 11: be impotent. I want to be in power. I want
- 15:09Speaker 11: to get rid of these taxes. I want to get
- 15:11Speaker 11: rid of this terrible government. I want to grower economy again.
- 15:13Speaker 11: I want to bring down energy prices by building things again.
- 15:16Speaker 11: That is my number one focus and I won't be
- 15:18Speaker 11: deterred from that.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Well, I have asked the banner by about that to
- 15:24Speaker 2: change of mind, and he was asked about it again
- 15:27Speaker 2: and Sky News only this morning and said how much
- 15:29Speaker 2: he regretted having to fall in line with the Liberals
- 15:32Speaker 2: on the Paris Agreement, which seems to be the case
- 15:36Speaker 2: still now Matt Canavan this afternoon.
- 15:39Speaker 1: This is the reports. I mean, if I can just
- 15:43Speaker 1: just make this well.
- 15:44Speaker 2: This strange.
- 15:46Speaker 1: People make the coin where you go at your show,
- 15:49Speaker 1: your show, your show. Well, people like Barnabay I do
- 15:52Speaker 1: want to work.
- 15:53Speaker 11: He never has to work with people. He never has
- 15:56Speaker 11: to work with people that don't agree with him. That's
- 15:58Speaker 11: his position now. It never was his position when he
- 16:00Speaker 11: was deputy prime minister, when he was leader the National Party,
- 16:03Speaker 11: did very good work as leader of the National's Party,
- 16:05Speaker 11: who did lots of good things, and he realized then
- 16:08Speaker 11: that in a parliament, in a group of people, to
- 16:11Speaker 11: get things done, you've got to you've got to work
- 16:13Speaker 11: with others, and sometimes you don't get everything you want.
- 16:16Speaker 11: And so we're going to have the same position regardless
- 16:18Speaker 11: of the election result. Whatever happens, there'll be a collection of people.
- 16:22Speaker 11: We'll have different views, and we've got to work with
- 16:24Speaker 11: them to prioritize what's important.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Now we've been upfront and told you what's important to me.
- 16:29Speaker 11: I don't necessarily think always Barnaby now is being upfront
- 16:32Speaker 11: because he's promising something that he probably won't be able
- 16:34Speaker 11: to deliver after an election. We are much more realistic
- 16:38Speaker 11: and pragmatic in the National's Party. We know we can't
- 16:41Speaker 11: get everything we want, but as I say, the main
- 16:43Speaker 11: game is to get rid of the Labor Party, to
- 16:45Speaker 11: get rid of net zero, to start building things again
- 16:48Speaker 11: in our country.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Matt The Australian this afternoon reports another six Islamic state
- 16:54Speaker 2: brides plus their children. They've been cleared returns to Australia
- 16:58Speaker 2: as early as next week. Fair enough that they come
- 17:01Speaker 2: home or are we importing in unacceptable danger?
- 17:06Speaker 11: Well, look, I just think the government here has always
- 17:09Speaker 11: wanted to do this, and their excuses that they are
- 17:12Speaker 11: reluctant participant here and somehow powers to stop them just
- 17:15Speaker 11: don't pass the pub test.
- 17:18Speaker 1: They have the powers.
- 17:18Speaker 11: As we've gone over before they've had the powers to
- 17:21Speaker 11: temporarily exclude people like this. They've had to charge a
- 17:24Speaker 11: number of these people and they don't know the circumstances
- 17:26Speaker 11: here for these six, but the ones that returned a
- 17:29Speaker 11: week or two ago had to be charged with terrorist defenses.
- 17:32Speaker 11: Why weren't then the powers used to exclude those people
- 17:35Speaker 11: who are clearly a safety risk to our country.
- 17:37Speaker 1: That's why they're there.
- 17:38Speaker 11: And on top of that, we have offered to strengthen
- 17:41Speaker 11: the laws if the government needs to exclude people that
- 17:44Speaker 11: are clearly a safety risk to our country. So look,
- 17:46Speaker 11: this is a pattern of behavior from this government. They
- 17:50Speaker 11: don't prioritize the safety and security of Australians. They instead
- 17:54Speaker 11: seem obsessed with simply opening the floodgates to all comers,
- 17:57Speaker 11: in this case people that are clearly great rifts to
- 18:00Speaker 11: our country that have been associated with terrorist organizations. But
- 18:03Speaker 11: more generally, the government's just opening the gates to all
- 18:06Speaker 11: and that's causing all manner of ills in our country
- 18:09Speaker 11: that need to be stopped.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Well, yes, a crackdown on immigration is so urgent, the
- 18:17Speaker 2: quality and the quantity both Mcanavan, thank you so much
- 18:20Speaker 2: for your time. After the break, Donald Trump calls off
- 18:23Speaker 2: a new big bombing attack on Iran, or has he
- 18:27Speaker 2: Sean Spicer? After this, Donald Trump says he was actually
- 18:35Speaker 2: planning to start bombing Iran again about now, right now,
- 18:41Speaker 2: but he called it off for the last minute, claiming
- 18:43Speaker 2: his Gulf allows told him a peace deal was being
- 18:45Speaker 2: negotiated that could meet American demands that i ran give
- 18:49Speaker 2: up its nuclear weapons program. Well, I have heard that before.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Iran is expert at buying time with fake prompt has
- 18:58Speaker 2: done it for years. Anyway, Trump says this pause of
- 19:02Speaker 2: what he called major bombing could last as a little
- 19:04Speaker 2: as a couple of days.
- 19:07Speaker 12: I was asbe Saudi Arabia Guitar Yue and some others
- 19:12Speaker 12: if we could put it off for two or three days,
- 19:14Speaker 12: a short period of time, because they think that they
- 19:16Speaker 12: are getting very close to making a deal. And if
- 19:19Speaker 12: we can do that where there's no nuclear weapon going
- 19:22Speaker 12: into the hands of Iran.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Hmmm, So what's really going on? I was joined earlier
- 19:28Speaker 2: from Florida by Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House spokesman.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Sean Spicer always great to see you. Donald Trump says
- 19:36Speaker 2: it's called a strike on Iran that he said was
- 19:40Speaker 2: planned for today Tuesday, after allies in the Gulf, like
- 19:44Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. Said a peace deal was being
- 19:49Speaker 2: negotiated that would stop Iran's nuclear program. I find that
- 19:53Speaker 2: a bit hard to believe after all the stalling we've
- 19:55Speaker 2: seen from Iran. Is that really happening, do you think
- 19:59Speaker 2: or are the Gulf It's just want in peace at
- 20:01Speaker 2: any cost.
- 20:04Speaker 7: I actually think the Gulf States want him to continue
- 20:06Speaker 7: this to some degree. So if they're confirming this, I
- 20:09Speaker 7: think that's actually a positive sign, because you saw some
- 20:13Speaker 7: of those GCC nations.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Argue for a while that they really wanted him to
- 20:17Speaker 5: finish the job. Look, the proof is going to be
- 20:19Speaker 5: in the pudding. You're right.
- 20:20Speaker 7: I was a little skeptical when I saw that statement
- 20:23Speaker 7: come out. In the prior statements have said that the
- 20:25Speaker 7: Field Marshal and Pakistan has been the driving force behind this.
- 20:29Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, there is this
- 20:30Speaker 7: balance between trying to get that straight open, trying to
- 20:33Speaker 7: get the nuclear capabilities of Iran mitigated, but also they
- 20:38Speaker 7: need to take us seriously. I am a strong advocate
- 20:42Speaker 7: of him continuing the military strikes.
- 20:44Speaker 5: I think that's the only thing that Iran will.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Respect, I totally agree with you, Sean. I think a victory,
- 20:53Speaker 2: even if it takes too long, is better than a defeat,
- 20:57Speaker 2: even if the war ends soon. But how much is
- 21:00Speaker 2: Donald Trump under at I'm too in this soon even
- 21:03Speaker 2: without that clear victory.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Oh I I it is enormous, absolutely enormous.
- 21:12Speaker 7: The polling that I've seen in the last ten days
- 21:15Speaker 7: continues to show not just that a lot of folks
- 21:18Speaker 7: are losing patience, but frankly, there's been a tremendous erosion
- 21:22Speaker 7: in the in the strong Republican base that is really
- 21:27Speaker 7: important to Trump. Now that being said, the polling also
- 21:31Speaker 7: suggests that they're standing by the president. They just they
- 21:34Speaker 7: don't like this particular policy. So it's a mixed bag,
- 21:36Speaker 7: if you will. But I think one of the things
- 21:38Speaker 7: that's hardened me is that, you know, I had initially
- 21:41Speaker 7: been concerned that under the domestic polling pressure that the
- 21:45Speaker 7: president was under as we got closer to these midterm
- 21:48Speaker 7: elections in the United States, that he would back off
- 21:51Speaker 7: of this demand that Iran cease any attempt to enrich
- 21:58Speaker 7: uranium seeking a nuclear weapon, and so far he has
- 22:01Speaker 7: been insistent that that is still the ultimate goal, which
- 22:04Speaker 7: makes me feel strong because I think we've.
- 22:06Speaker 5: Gone into this for a reason. We need to remember
- 22:09Speaker 5: what it is.
- 22:10Speaker 7: There was a great statistic that Admiral Cooper gave who's
- 22:14Speaker 7: the head of Sancon the other day that in the
- 22:16Speaker 7: past several years, Iran has averaged killing one US service member,
- 22:21Speaker 7: either them or their proxies every three days.
- 22:24Speaker 5: I don't know that every American.
- 22:25Speaker 7: Fully appreciates that statistic, but it's important to keep in
- 22:28Speaker 7: mind that Iran was already doing a lot of damage
- 22:31Speaker 7: to the United States and our people and continues to
- 22:34Speaker 7: pose an existential threat to our well being, so taking
- 22:37Speaker 7: them out is extremely important.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I like you. I thought he might wobble on
- 22:44Speaker 2: that too, to try and get this off the agenda
- 22:46Speaker 2: and focus on the midterm elections. But I knowing one
- 22:51Speaker 2: wildcat here is that I don't think Israel would want
- 22:54Speaker 2: to stop without that nuclear program completely dismantled. So we
- 22:59Speaker 2: shall see what happenedan a Sean deadly shooting in California today.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Three people murdered in a mosque. The two teen suspects
- 23:10Speaker 2: suspected of a hate crime found dead. Apparently they killed themselves.
- 23:15Speaker 8: There was definitely hate rhetoric that was involved.
- 23:19Speaker 2: This is not just a tragedy, is it Sean, but
- 23:22Speaker 2: actually something potentially explosive as well, isn't it.
- 23:27Speaker 5: Well, Look, here's what I'll tell you.
- 23:29Speaker 7: What concerns me in America these days, and I had
- 23:32Speaker 7: a gentleman on my show that talked about this, is
- 23:35Speaker 7: that we're seeing this increase in people believing that violence
- 23:40Speaker 7: and in fact murder is acceptable as a means to
- 23:43Speaker 7: a political end. And we saw that well before any
- 23:48Speaker 7: of these issues here in the United States, when we
- 23:51Speaker 7: killed the CEO of United Healthcare and cold blood and
- 23:54Speaker 7: people were cheering it.
- 23:55Speaker 5: They set up a defense fund.
- 23:57Speaker 7: And so what concerns me more and more weren't in
- 24:00Speaker 7: America is actually this notion that violence is an acceptable
- 24:04Speaker 7: means to achieving political goals political ends. And I don't
- 24:09Speaker 7: mean to make it entirely political, but what concerns me
- 24:12Speaker 7: about how this manifests it is that the left, in
- 24:15Speaker 7: many cases encouraged is it.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Well, you've admitted, of course, the various assassination attempts on
- 24:24Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I mean it's really quite freaky. Meanwhile, we
- 24:30Speaker 2: see that you're not in your usual studio, You're on
- 24:33Speaker 2: the road, You're in Florida, you just have been promoting
- 24:38Speaker 2: your book, Trump two point zero, The Revolution that permanently
- 24:41Speaker 2: transformed America. I know that we've shown Donald Trump signing.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Your book is endorsed it as well New York Times
- 24:49Speaker 2: best seller, Sean, I expect you to be heavy in
- 24:53Speaker 2: bling at this rate, the way that's going. What's the
- 24:58Speaker 2: theme of your book.
- 25:00Speaker 7: So the theme that I try to that I try
- 25:03Speaker 7: to explain to people is that Trump two point zero,
- 25:06Speaker 7: the second term is not normal for America. We every
- 25:10Speaker 7: sequential president, that is, presidents have two terms, have always
- 25:14Speaker 7: been one after the other, except for two one Grover
- 25:17Speaker 7: Cleveland one hundred plus years ago and then Donald Trump.
- 25:19Speaker 7: And the point that I make in the book, Andrew,
- 25:21Speaker 7: is that the four years between Donald Trump's two terms
- 25:25Speaker 7: have been unbelievably consequential. What he did to plan and
- 25:29Speaker 7: prepare for that return to office, his people, the plotting
- 25:33Speaker 7: of their policies cannot be understated.
- 25:36Speaker 5: These guys went out.
- 25:37Speaker 7: None of this stuff that's happening in Trump two point
- 25:39Speaker 7: zero is by accident.
- 25:41Speaker 5: It was all planned, it was all thought out, All
- 25:45Speaker 5: of the people were vetted.
- 25:46Speaker 7: And so when people just talk about the second term,
- 25:50Speaker 7: acting as though it's just another second term. They're missing
- 25:53Speaker 7: what happened in those intervening four years.
- 25:58Speaker 2: It's been enormous hit the ground, not just running but sprinting.
- 26:02Speaker 2: I mean, the contrast with the Joe Barden is is amazing,
- 26:07Speaker 2: just as access to the media, for one, I mean,
- 26:09Speaker 2: you wouldn't hear from Joe Biden for weeks on end.
- 26:12Speaker 2: With Donald Trump, it's almost hour by hour. I think
- 26:16Speaker 2: it's such an open presidency like never before. I think
- 26:20Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that he's not given enough
- 26:23Speaker 2: credit for. Sean Spicer, thank you so much for your time.
- 26:27Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'll see you next week. Andrew, thank you.
- 26:32Speaker 2: After the break the truth about Gaza which the ABC
- 26:36Speaker 2: won't tell you and more on the return of the
- 26:38Speaker 2: Islamic State, Brides all that with the panel breaking news
- 26:45Speaker 2: former Governor General Peter Hollingworth has died. You might recall
- 26:50Speaker 2: it's not just the governor general, these Anglican archbishop and
- 26:55Speaker 2: he had to resign for not having done enough to
- 26:59Speaker 2: protect victims of child's sexual abuse by one of the
- 27:03Speaker 2: priests in his church. My opinion, he had to resign.
- 27:07Speaker 2: There was no real option there. But what a tragedy.
- 27:11Speaker 2: The years of the remaining years of his life otherwise distinguished,
- 27:15Speaker 2: clouded by that terrible, terrible misjudgment Israeli troops. Meanwhile, though
- 27:22Speaker 2: you have stormed some of the fifty odd ships of
- 27:24Speaker 2: protesters trying to break through Israel's blockade of Gaza, the
- 27:29Speaker 2: terrorist state backed by Iran, and cure the usual hysteria
- 27:34Speaker 2: and fakery from the anti Israel haters on board, including Australians.
- 27:39Speaker 6: The Australian government. Your ability to be complicit and the
- 27:42Speaker 6: vibe by genocide is appalling, to silence is disgusting, and
- 27:46Speaker 6: you allowed your citizens to be kidnapped by a fascist
- 27:49Speaker 6: state wherein they were tortured and abused.
- 27:53Speaker 2: Fact check, No, there is no genocide, and no, israelis
- 27:57Speaker 2: not a fascist state. It's a democracy, the fascist a
- 28:00Speaker 2: Hamas and Iran. But on it went with another Australian
- 28:05Speaker 2: claiming their ships were bringing in the kind of aid
- 28:07Speaker 2: that I think we're supposed to believe Israel is the
- 28:09Speaker 2: knowing Gazans.
- 28:11Speaker 6: Well, they let us.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Deliver the baby food and the hate and the medicine.
- 28:16Speaker 13: Yeah, I doubt, and let's give them a bloody.
- 28:18Speaker 10: Red rock go.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Naturally. The ABC this Morning reported it all with about
- 28:24Speaker 2: zero questioning of the other protesters painting a picture of
- 28:29Speaker 2: starving Gazans needing whatever aid these protesters ships were carrying.
- 28:34Speaker 7: I'm part of a non violent civilian mission sailing to
- 28:37Speaker 7: break the illegal siege, deliver aid and stand in solidarity
- 28:40Speaker 7: with the people of Gaza in Palestine.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Now, you might think of being all too cynical about
- 28:46Speaker 2: all this aid that they're bringing over to starving Gazas.
- 28:49Speaker 2: But I've seen the fakery of past flotilla protesters, like
- 28:53Speaker 2: organized A Thiago Avila, who was pretending last month and
- 28:56Speaker 2: those wicked Israelis had handcuffed him, there were no hand cuffs,
- 29:00Speaker 2: and Greta Tunberg also pretending she was handcuffed last year
- 29:04Speaker 2: when the Israelis kicked her out. Now saying with these
- 29:07Speaker 2: claims or suggestions that is rather starving children in Gaza,
- 29:11Speaker 2: blocking even baby food. There's a lot of propaganda about that,
- 29:14Speaker 2: but there's actually plenty of aid pouring in the Israelis
- 29:17Speaker 2: are not blocking. And this is posted yesterday by Gaza
- 29:21Speaker 2: World Kitchen. And this was posted in Gaza last week
- 29:25Speaker 2: by the World Food Program. Or a Gazan resident who
- 29:30Speaker 2: felt snackish could just go to the shops like this
- 29:33Speaker 2: supermarket which opened a few days ago. Big announce earned
- 29:37Speaker 2: or check out this wedding feast in Gaza this month,
- 29:40Speaker 2: and all the men in this segregated event looking pretty
- 29:43Speaker 2: well fed to me, having a whale of a time
- 29:45Speaker 2: in the dance floor. In fact, a lot of men
- 29:47Speaker 2: and Gaza seem to need to go to the gym,
- 29:50Speaker 2: this gym to burn some of those calories that the
- 29:53Speaker 2: protesters want to bring in as well, and even some
- 29:57Speaker 2: in Gars have the energy to run in the annual
- 29:59Speaker 2: Palace and in Marathon this month joined me Amir Schift,
- 30:03Speaker 2: the executive director of Samuel Griffith Society, Michael the Amba,
- 30:07Speaker 2: former Federal labor politician and Chairman of the Joint Standing
- 30:11Speaker 2: Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade. And Michael, I'm
- 30:14Speaker 2: sure there must be some people in pockets of Gaza
- 30:17Speaker 2: who don't get much to eat, including a particularly people
- 30:21Speaker 2: who aren't close to themas Terras, who seem to have
- 30:25Speaker 2: quite a good handle on aid. But this claim that
- 30:28Speaker 2: the flotilla protest is bringing in much needed baby food
- 30:31Speaker 2: and medicine seems to me a painter very misleading picture.
- 30:35Speaker 2: What do you think, Andrew?
- 30:37Speaker 8: I was watching Turkish television on this ftilla and some
- 30:40Speaker 8: of the activists through their chocolates and their phones overboard.
- 30:44Speaker 8: So look, I don't take them serious a virtue signaling
- 30:50Speaker 8: attention seeking ideologues who they don't seem to follow, that
- 30:56Speaker 8: there is a cease fire in Gaza, that there are
- 31:00Speaker 8: serious negotiations between Donald Trump's international body and the local Palestinians,
- 31:09Speaker 8: and they're are going to be dropped off, most of
- 31:12Speaker 8: them in Crete and Cyprus, who, by the way, don't
- 31:15Speaker 8: seem to be all that keen on them either, because
- 31:17Speaker 8: they accept them and then send them off on a
- 31:20Speaker 8: plane to wherever they come from. Just distortion by Matt
- 31:25Speaker 8: Doren on the ABC. You're dead right. Why isn't he
- 31:28Speaker 8: reporting the fact that in Dubai this morning drones attacked
- 31:33Speaker 8: Dubai from Iran. There are thousands of Australians who transit
- 31:37Speaker 8: through the UAE and Dubai.
- 31:39Speaker 5: They're much more.
- 31:40Speaker 8: Interested in that. Why has the ABC got this distorted
- 31:43Speaker 8: coverage of teenagers on some interventionist for tilla floating not
- 31:52Speaker 8: just on the Mediterraneum but their ocean of unshakable certainty
- 31:57Speaker 8: and self admiration.
- 32:00Speaker 2: MIAs Schliff, you know, it seems to me there are
- 32:02Speaker 2: some topics where you can say any damn thing and
- 32:06Speaker 2: the truth doesn't matter of fact. The more you bend
- 32:08Speaker 2: the truth, the more virtuous you must be. They include
- 32:11Speaker 2: the reconciliation movement, race politics, global warming, and of course
- 32:15Speaker 2: Israel claims of starvation in Gaza. Don't they seem laterally
- 32:21Speaker 2: falls to you?
- 32:25Speaker 14: Well, I think this anti Israel narrative is certainly very tired,
- 32:28Speaker 14: and these claims of starvation, Look, I've no doubt there
- 32:31Speaker 14: are some terrible circumstances are going on in Gaza at
- 32:34Speaker 14: the moment. That's often what happens after there has been
- 32:37Speaker 14: a war, and Gaza is a war torn zone, and
- 32:40Speaker 14: that's thanks to the war that Hamas started on October seventh.
- 32:43Speaker 14: And I think it's really tiring this narrative anti that
- 32:47Speaker 14: Israel's causing all these issues when none of these media
- 32:50Speaker 14: outlets seemed even the slightest bit concerned about the inhumane
- 32:54Speaker 14: conditions of the hostages, for example, who lived in absolutely
- 32:58Speaker 14: appalling conditions and who tortured by hermask. They didn't seem
- 33:02Speaker 14: so dedicated to independent journalism then, And I think for
- 33:05Speaker 14: the ABC to continue with this narrative, not only is
- 33:08Speaker 14: it exhausting, but it's actually extremely harmful, and they cannot
- 33:11Speaker 14: go on as our national broadcaster and enjoying this liberty
- 33:15Speaker 14: with the received having his taxpayer funds just thrown at them,
- 33:19Speaker 14: and not even attempt to achieve some kind of journalistic integrity.
- 33:24Speaker 2: It is just appalling, honestly. The liberals who keep telling
- 33:29Speaker 2: me no, we can reform the ABC a dream on, folks.
- 33:32Speaker 2: It's unsalvagible. I think the ABC really should be sold.
- 33:37Speaker 2: If people really value it, I'm sure they'll help buy
- 33:40Speaker 2: shares or whatever. Let it survive. Don't worry about the
- 33:43Speaker 2: couple gain stacks, Michael, speaking of Islamus terrorists, the Australian
- 33:49Speaker 2: is now reporting, as I said to Matt Kenavan top
- 33:52Speaker 2: of the show, the remaining six Islamic state brides and
- 33:55Speaker 2: their children have been clear to return to Australia to
- 33:58Speaker 2: follow the earlier group, which included two womens's charged with
- 34:02Speaker 2: war crimes for keeping a slave. Fair enough to take
- 34:06Speaker 2: these women back too.
- 34:09Speaker 8: The first group shouldn't have come. They should have been
- 34:12Speaker 8: given temporary exclusion orders like that one woman, and in
- 34:17Speaker 8: humanitarian sympathy with them, we should have funded the children
- 34:21Speaker 8: to live in Turkey. And islamis country next door to Syria.
- 34:24Speaker 8: It's no wonder the Syrian government's paying to get these
- 34:26Speaker 8: people out of their country because they don't want more Islamists,
- 34:31Speaker 8: including some of the women who are particularly fanatical there.
- 34:35Speaker 5: I want to know, Andrew.
- 34:36Speaker 8: And your viewers want to know what are the age
- 34:38Speaker 8: of some of the boys who've been brought back from
- 34:43Speaker 8: with that first tranch and will come with a second trench.
- 34:46Speaker 8: We've had three incidents in Australia where the legislation had
- 34:50Speaker 8: to be amended so that boys or children up to
- 34:57Speaker 8: fourteen years old can be charged with terror offenses. You
- 35:01Speaker 8: know that poor Chinese accountant, his soul in paramatter is
- 35:05Speaker 8: crying out against this. He was killed by a fifteen
- 35:08Speaker 8: year old jihadist in Paramata just a few years ago. Similarly,
- 35:14Speaker 8: the bishop was stabbed in the eye by a sixteen
- 35:17Speaker 8: year old How old are these boys, Albo and work
- 35:22Speaker 8: these future deeds of perhaps some of these people are
- 35:26Speaker 8: on your head hands.
- 35:30Speaker 2: Now I get Michael's point there Mia about you know,
- 35:34Speaker 2: there's been a lot of messing around with the definition
- 35:36Speaker 2: of children, because even you know, a child officially a
- 35:40Speaker 2: child sixteen, seventeen, eighteen can kill you, as Israel is
- 35:45Speaker 2: finding with some of these terrorist attacks, don't we nevertheless
- 35:51Speaker 2: have some responsibility, feels some sympathy for the children in
- 35:54Speaker 2: this group, well.
- 35:59Speaker 14: I think they can have a lot of sympathy for
- 36:01Speaker 14: a lot of you know, the circumstances around these cases,
- 36:03Speaker 14: but the reality is they're also concerns, and I think
- 36:06Speaker 14: Michael's point about the age of these children is important
- 36:09Speaker 14: because we need to find out just how long these
- 36:11Speaker 14: children have been exposed to quite radical ideas, and the
- 36:15Speaker 14: ability to rehabilitate those children in Australia and what process
- 36:20Speaker 14: will be in place, and the fact that this Australian
- 36:22Speaker 14: community basically has no answers to any of that those
- 36:25Speaker 14: questions is just a huge concern because they are completely
- 36:28Speaker 14: valid questions and they go to the heart of community safety.
- 36:31Speaker 14: Anthony Albanesi loves to throw around this term social cohesion,
- 36:34Speaker 14: yet doesn't seem committed to actually meeting any of those objectives.
- 36:38Speaker 14: So I think that's why the Australian population is so
- 36:41Speaker 14: desperate for answers and to have these you know, this
- 36:43Speaker 14: extra group of women return. I'm not surprised at all
- 36:46Speaker 14: the Albanezi government did not say unequivocally that they would
- 36:48Speaker 14: not be returning. And my experiences is where the Albanezi
- 36:52Speaker 14: government doesn't give you a straight answer, that usually means
- 36:54Speaker 14: they're playing somewhere in the gray. So I'm not shocked,
- 36:57Speaker 14: but I am I will be sitting here in anticipation.
- 37:00Speaker 14: Looking at the reception from the media. I was quite
- 37:02Speaker 14: appalled by how the last group of women were welcomed
- 37:05Speaker 14: back here in Australia. It was almost romanticized, especially by
- 37:08Speaker 14: the ABC. They were welcomed back with open arms and
- 37:11Speaker 14: then they were charged with quite abhorrent crimes. And we
- 37:14Speaker 14: don't know about the charges against these women, but I
- 37:16Speaker 14: will hope that we are perhaps a bit more hesitant
- 37:19Speaker 14: when welcoming this group back.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Well, I was shocked by the signs of the reception
- 37:24Speaker 2: committee at the airport. Yeah, well, gosh, thank you Michael
- 37:30Speaker 2: for that little warning. Michael is talking about people whose
- 37:34Speaker 2: word you can't trust the government. At the top of
- 37:38Speaker 2: the show, I showed how Anthony Albaneze has been laughed
- 37:40Speaker 2: at by small business owners for one who's forty seven
- 37:43Speaker 2: percent of the capital gains from their business. Also showed
- 37:46Speaker 2: Albany has been treated by journalists in Perth like a
- 37:48Speaker 2: liar whose word means nothing. Now, how serious is this
- 37:54Speaker 2: for labor? The party you've been a member of for so.
- 37:57Speaker 8: Long, Well, I was a member of for so long,
- 38:01Speaker 8: included people like Keeping Kelty and Peter Wallash who wanted
- 38:06Speaker 8: economic reform for Australia. This is a backward government. This
- 38:10Speaker 8: is back to the Arthur Calwell days in the fifties
- 38:12Speaker 8: and sixties. This is a government they don't understand business.
- 38:18Speaker 8: Small business people and business people invest their lives hoping
- 38:22Speaker 8: to get their capital back at the end of it,
- 38:25Speaker 8: work long hours. They are not the equivalent and shouldn't
- 38:28Speaker 8: be treated in the same way as wage or salary units.
- 38:31Speaker 8: It's because it's a different lifestyle, a different aim with
- 38:36Speaker 8: their productive work, and these people should be encouraged. I mean,
- 38:39Speaker 8: I just think what the effect on startups are going
- 38:41Speaker 8: to be. Australia is going to look even more backwards
- 38:46Speaker 8: if we have our young people in the startup industries
- 38:50Speaker 8: flee to the United States, they might even go to Israel.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Are yeah me just quickly amount of time. But what
- 38:59Speaker 2: do you think how serious this is for labor?
- 39:04Speaker 14: Well, I think it's a huge hit to labor. I mean,
- 39:06Speaker 14: Albaniz he was running around. His whole brand was Albo,
- 39:09Speaker 14: the guy wo'd have a beer with at a pub.
- 39:11Speaker 14: He was kind of seen as a mate. Yes, he'd
- 39:12Speaker 14: make some blunders every now and then, but he was
- 39:14Speaker 14: a good guy. That image has been completely rewritten. He's
- 39:17Speaker 14: not trusted. He's been shown to be a liar. And
- 39:20Speaker 14: not only that, he's now been shown to be robbing
- 39:22Speaker 14: us all blind, particularly young people. So I think this
- 39:24Speaker 14: is a huge hit to Labor and I think it
- 39:26Speaker 14: will be very, very difficult for them to recover.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Miya Schlicht Michael Danby, thank you very much to you both.
- 39:33Speaker 2: After the break, Samara Gil plus effect check on a
- 39:36Speaker 2: report on this Sky News channel today accusing the US
- 39:41Speaker 2: of a war crime in Iran. You may have seen
- 39:48Speaker 2: here earlier today report by Britain Sky News, which I'm
- 39:51Speaker 2: like our Sky News is quite left wing. A report
- 39:54Speaker 2: from Mina being Iran the Iranian regime finally lived in
- 39:59Speaker 2: a foreign new crew to go to Minab to report
- 40:02Speaker 2: on a bomb strike at the start of this war
- 40:05Speaker 2: which destroyed a school, with some reports effect then claiming
- 40:08Speaker 2: about one hundred and seventy girls had been killed. Now,
- 40:13Speaker 2: some things about today's report struck me.
- 40:17Speaker 15: The evidence points to America. Iranians say these are pieces
- 40:20Speaker 15: of US made Tomahawk cruise missiles collected at the site,
- 40:24Speaker 15: and we know America attacked several other places nearby that day.
- 40:33Speaker 15: Whatever are the targets there were in the area. The
- 40:35Speaker 15: point of stress is this was a primary school there
- 40:38Speaker 15: have been for more than a decade, and was clearly
- 40:41Speaker 15: marked on maps, and yet it was struck it seems,
- 40:44Speaker 15: right in the center of the building by missiles that
- 40:47Speaker 15: are accurate within a few meters. It was either deliberately targeted,
- 40:51Speaker 15: which would be a war crime, or it was misidentified,
- 40:54Speaker 15: potentially equally a breach of the rules of war.
- 41:00Speaker 2: I actually reported on this tragedy right here more than
- 41:03Speaker 2: two months ago and told you then that yes, this
- 41:06Speaker 2: was almost certainly an American missile, nothing new there. But
- 41:09Speaker 2: I showed you what this report did not, a satellite
- 41:13Speaker 2: image of the school and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard compound
- 41:18Speaker 2: right behind it that was clearly the main target. It seems,
- 41:22Speaker 2: seven precise hits on those buildings. Now, I also showed
- 41:28Speaker 2: you something else that this other sky news did not today,
- 41:32Speaker 2: this picture here, which shows how this mistake happened. It's
- 41:36Speaker 2: the same compound thirteen years ago when the Guard Corps,
- 41:41Speaker 2: the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps had the whole compound, including
- 41:46Speaker 2: the buildings op right that lays later turned into a school.
- 41:51Speaker 2: Now all these buildings were then behind the same war
- 41:53Speaker 2: with guard towers. Now this shows I think definitively that
- 42:00Speaker 2: the Americans were working off dated information. They assumed all
- 42:05Speaker 2: the buildings were still IRGC military sites. In what this
- 42:10Speaker 2: evidence suggests was a terrible, terrible mistake with tragic results
- 42:15Speaker 2: children killed, but also as the size of the coffins
- 42:19Speaker 2: at the mass funeral then suggest also many adults were killed,
- 42:25Speaker 2: no doubt IRGC soldiers, which also wasn't mentioned today. So yes,
- 42:32Speaker 2: a mistake, but of course not a deliberate strike on
- 42:37Speaker 2: a school. It was a mistake that was tragic, but
- 42:40Speaker 2: which no reasonable person I believe could consider a war crime.
- 42:50Speaker 2: But to more bars in Britain, London police have told
- 42:54Speaker 2: organizers to remove a sign advertising an exhibition on the
- 42:58Speaker 2: Nova Festival that's the Fast ofwuch hamas terrorist attacked on
- 43:03Speaker 2: the October seven massacre are slaughtering hundreds of dancers there,
- 43:08Speaker 2: including Shany Luke, with many women there rape before being
- 43:11Speaker 2: mutilated and killed. As a recent reporters outlined. Join me
- 43:16Speaker 2: from London is Talk TV host Samara gild Samara, good
- 43:19Speaker 2: to see you again. Can you tell me why that
- 43:22Speaker 2: sign was removed and what this tells us about London?
- 43:28Speaker 13: Look, Andrew, I tell you what that sign being removed shows.
- 43:31Speaker 13: It shows that London police apparently think that a sign
- 43:35Speaker 13: remembering her mass massacre victims is more offensive than the
- 43:39Speaker 13: people glorifying her mass every single weekend. That's what that
- 43:43Speaker 13: tells you. You know, we've reached a point over here
- 43:46Speaker 13: where sort of memorializing murdered Jewish people is treated like
- 43:51Speaker 13: some sort of public order issue. I mean, we've got
- 43:54Speaker 13: two police fans that are waiting outside this entrance for
- 43:59Speaker 13: the app actual exhibition officers patrolling the pavements, armed guards,
- 44:05Speaker 13: security men with ear pieces over here in London, in
- 44:09Speaker 13: East London, and they couldn't even disclose the location until
- 44:13Speaker 13: that morning. This is now a society where these memorial
- 44:17Speaker 13: events require security operations. You know, this is not a
- 44:21Speaker 13: healthy society. We are at breaking point here over in
- 44:24Speaker 13: the UK. You know, we've had a litany of terrorist attacks.
- 44:28Speaker 13: Sadik Khan hasn't even bothered to go and visit the
- 44:31Speaker 13: site of the Hutsola ambulance arson which happened just in
- 44:36Speaker 13: the past month, the Golders Green terror attack two weeks ago,
- 44:40Speaker 13: where two Jewish people were targeted with a knife and
- 44:43Speaker 13: slashed in broad daylight. We've just had reports that last
- 44:47Speaker 13: night a twenty two year old man was brutally beaten
- 44:51Speaker 13: up by five masked men over in that Jewish area
- 44:55Speaker 13: of London, and that was just for speaking Hebrew. At
- 44:58Speaker 13: the moment we're still getting in information about that. These
- 45:01Speaker 13: are all allegations, but outside his apartment we've seen some
- 45:04Speaker 13: horrible pictures of him after being beaten up, seemingly unprovoked.
- 45:10Speaker 13: And then of course you've got the knackbar protests that
- 45:13Speaker 13: happened this weekend in London whereby MPs were chanting from
- 45:18Speaker 13: the river to the sea and globalize the Interfather freely
- 45:21Speaker 13: without any police intervention. Andrew, I mean this is I'm
- 45:25Speaker 13: just talking about things that have happened in the past
- 45:26Speaker 13: couple of weeks.
- 45:27Speaker 2: O be sure, sure, Audrey.
- 45:28Speaker 13: So it's absolutely out of control and if we don't
- 45:32Speaker 13: crack down on it, we're going to be looking back
- 45:34Speaker 13: on this period and saying, how the hell do we
- 45:36Speaker 13: allow anti Semitism to run so rife in a country
- 45:40Speaker 13: that defeated Europe against Nazism amazing.
- 45:45Speaker 2: The police said take down the sign because he'll become
- 45:48Speaker 2: a target. Why don't they simply protect the right to
- 45:51Speaker 2: hold that sign and to have that exhibition, protect that
- 45:55Speaker 2: with everything, rather than tell them to hide their faces.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Britain's Prime Minister kist he's hanging on by a thread
- 46:02Speaker 2: with the Popular Mirror of Manchester, Andy Burnham saying he's
- 46:05Speaker 2: standing in a local by election to go to London
- 46:07Speaker 2: and change the Labour Paddy by leading it here is if.
- 46:11Speaker 16: We are to unified communities and the country, it means
- 46:15Speaker 16: focusing on the big economic challenges we have, the structural
- 46:18Speaker 16: problems that I've been talking about before. Vote for me
- 46:21Speaker 16: will be a vote to change labor because labour needs
- 46:25Speaker 16: to change.
- 46:27Speaker 2: Yes, but Keith Stamus's is not stepping down at all, Samara,
- 46:32Speaker 2: So where is this going to end up?
- 46:35Speaker 13: It's like, can they get the dictionary out and find
- 46:37Speaker 13: some other word to use than change, because that is
- 46:40Speaker 13: exactly the same word that Kirs Starmer used to run
- 46:43Speaker 13: on merely two years ago and now look at his downfall.
- 46:47Speaker 13: I mean, you're right, about Andy burnhamook. He's marginally more
- 46:50Speaker 13: popular than Kirs Starmer, but that's within his own party
- 46:54Speaker 13: and that's what we need to think about because we
- 46:56Speaker 13: know that the UK just recently had a referendum on
- 47:00Speaker 13: k Starma and on basically wokeism to be honest and
- 47:03Speaker 13: said no, we want to go conservative and that was
- 47:06Speaker 13: shown in the massive, massive win from Reform side. Look,
- 47:10Speaker 13: this seat that Andy Burnham is going for is not
- 47:13Speaker 13: a very popular seat. It was his third choice. Reform
- 47:17Speaker 13: UK actually took all the counselors within that seat in
- 47:20Speaker 13: the local elections, so the pickings are very slim for
- 47:24Speaker 13: him and the chances are even slimmer in my opinion
- 47:26Speaker 13: for him to win. He still could, but it is
- 47:29Speaker 13: in Brexit country. And may I remind you andy Burnham
- 47:33Speaker 13: wrote a book just two years ago on how great
- 47:35Speaker 13: the EU was. So I'm not sure how this is
- 47:38Speaker 13: going to go. But it's train wreck for Labor Andrew
- 47:41Speaker 13: train wreck.
- 47:43Speaker 2: But the amazing the response, isn't it that Labour looks
- 47:46Speaker 2: to say as a savior to Andy Burnham of the
- 47:50Speaker 2: hard lift when they've just got trounced by Reform in
- 47:54Speaker 2: those council elections.
- 47:57Speaker 5: Precisely.
- 47:58Speaker 13: I don't understand why the party can't see that they
- 48:01Speaker 13: need to stop being controlled by their rabid left wingers
- 48:05Speaker 13: in the back bench and actually think about the way
- 48:08Speaker 13: that the nation is going, and how the nation is
- 48:10Speaker 13: feeling about unfettered migration, the economy, things that conservatism all
- 48:15Speaker 13: so true.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Samara, You are so right, Samara gil thank you so
- 48:21Speaker 2: much for your time. That's it from me, Coming up next,
- 48:24Speaker 2: Sherry Mason. Good night.