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The Ones Who Hide Part One: The Girl in the Blue Dress · Echoes of the South

• 1:21
  Carrie Genzel Welcome to Echoes of the South. I'm Carrie Genzel. In the heart of one of Macon, Georgia's most historic neighborhoods is a street once known as Millionaire's Row. For generations, it was home to some of the city's most prominent families, grand residences, And more than a few stories that have endured long after the people who live them were gone. It's here that we find the house we're investigating today. Built in eighteen ninety two, the home has stood through more than a hundred and thirty years of change, passing from one family to another. Its former owner, Jennifer, lived here for several years, and during that time she came to believe she wasn't always alone. Lights that seemed to turn on themselves, voices belonging to people who weren't there, and a presence in the basement that made it very clear this was its space. Jennifer had learned to coexist with the activity in the house. She wasn't looking to remove whatever might be there. She simply wanted to better understand who or what she had been sharing the house with. That's where we came in. Today I'm joined by Spiritual Medium Morrighan Lynne and lead investigator Jonathan Morrighan As we try to better understand what Jennifer experienced in this house and who might still be there. Our approach is simple. We listen, we ask questions, we follow where the investigation takes us. We do not go looking for fear. And when we can, we help. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that. Paranormal investigation is interpretive by nature. What you see and hear in this episode reflects our experiences and observations during the investigation. We share what happened as we experienced it, and invite you to draw your own conclusions. Let's begin.
• 4:02
  Carrie Genzel Jen, thank you so much for inviting us into this home. I'm really excited to hear about your experiences in here and see how we can help. There's a room downstairs that something happened. I don't know if there was a fire or f some kind of flood or something, but the room w hasn't been used. My understanding is since the sixties or seventies it was never restored. I don't know what happened there, but speaking to the granddaughters of the last Of the last member of the family who held it the longest, she remembers when she was a child that that room was also unfinished. really? So that room has some vibes. It's got some history. It does. You're definitely gonna want to look into that. in that room we I play sort of a game with that ghost. Like they keep turning the light on and then I'll turn it off. And then it'll just come on and then I'll turn it off. And then it'll stop for a little while and then one day it'll just like randomly turn on. Okay. And I'll notice because there's an outside window. so I'll be outside and like, hey, why is this light on? The I call it the old kitchen because that would have been the origin or one of I guess the downstairs kitchen or the summer kitchen. And we know that because there's a peephole in that door where deliveries would have been made from the driveway. Right. And there's a larder attached to that room. Right. I love these old homes that have so much history. it's so cool and it's so practical. These homes are really designed with so much intention. So this is the room. I mean we can come in here if you guys dare. my gosh. But watch watch your step because it's it's a dipsy. Yes, it's never finished. This is the larder and this is where the light turns off and on randomly. Okay. I'll turn on the light here for you. Let's turn it on and see if it's still on later. Yeah, I'll leave it on for you guys so that you can explore. There would have been yeah, there's a little window there. Excuse me. Yeah. So when I walk down this courtyard, you know, sometimes I'll see that the light is on and I'm pretty good about ensuring lights are off. It also helps me control like, you know, keeping doors closed and you know, for safety purposes. So I know when that light has been on or off. And so I'm like, okay, I didn't turn that on. Thanks. I'll I guess I'll go down there and do that. You know. So sometimes the activity picks up. and sometimes it it dwindles and I don't know why. I d I haven't found a correlation. Well, I know that we've here and Michael, who's behind the camera, was down here helping you with something one day and there was a very loud bang. That's right. That's right. Yeah, because I think this whole area in general is the territory of a spirit who is not excited about us hanging out here. So this is through that door. Yeah. So we do I have an agreement with him where he like stays out of the way. He allows me to be in his space. Yes. and doesn't bother me. But you know, when I first moved in, the vibes in the basement were like you need to get out of here. Really? It was it's it's not that, you know, anything super specific happened. It was just this feeling like, you know, your hair stand up.
• 7:13
  Jennifer Yeah.
• 7:13
  Carrie Genzel It's cold, you you feel very uneasy. Yeah. and I wasn't the only one who felt this, so I was like, Okay, this this is a thing for this space. Boundaries. Yeah, so I I am either nuts or brave, I don't know. but I did go downstairs and I was like, Hey, you know, we both live here. I have no intention of evicting you and I hope you have no intention of evicting me. If we can't be friends, let's at least have an agreement. I will only come down here when I need to. Right. This is your territory, like my holiday decorations are here. Otherwise, I will not bother you. You can have your space. Right. Do whatever you do. When I come, I will be brief. I will get out of your way and, you know, that i I hope that's okay with you. Right. And then it calmed down. Then it felt like, okay, do whatever you need to do. It's that coexisting, like how do we coexist? Yeah. And I think that when we have the team come in, that's really the intention of coming in. The house is in transition, so if we could find some answers about perhaps who this is and also maybe get some ground rules, right? and some understanding from maybe the next family moving in of like it's fine. Yeah. We all like our space. But it doesn't necessarily right, we don't necessarily need an eviction. No, I don't think so. I haven't had any trouble with anybody here. I don't think anybody here needs to be evicted. I think they're just the colorful residents of the house that you accept you live with when you have an older home. She's from 1890. She's she's lived. She's lived, absolutely. I do think that the spirit in here is different than the spirit in here. Okay. And I you know, I don't know how much but this is the sense that I get. The spirit in here kind of that's particular. his domain, yeah, but also like kind of cast a foreboding shadow over everything else. Okay. I in the basement. But once we had our agreement settled, I actually used this as my gym and I worked out in here and like the energy in here was totally fine. Right. And it really butts up against his turf. Like through that door is also his turf because that leads into the crawl space. Okay. But never was there a leakage of that there was sort of I don't want you here energy. There was a of and I would come down here and work out, you know, late at night or early in the morning in the dark. And never felt anything weird. I felt total peace actually. The gym was one of my sanctuaries. Nice. So I call him Edward. I don't know if he's that I don't know if he'll be okay with you calling him that. I don't know if that's his name. We can ask him, but I'll we'll we'll we'll ask. I'll take
• 9:37
  Morrighan Lynne So
• 9:38
  Carrie Genzel you upstairs to the foyer and tell you a little bit about my experience with what I I believe was a mimic. Okay. I had my best friend staying with me one night or a few nights he was visiting. And the first night she was here around, I don't know, three, four in the morning, I hear her outside my door. Now she was staying in this room, and I was in this room with my ex and I hear her outside the door, Jen, Jen, Jen! Like she's calling me to come out. And it's insistent and it's growing more and more insistent. but I mean, I look over at the clock, it's like three or something in the morning. Right. And I I mean, I'm thinking, I love you, but I'm I'm not getting up. And I just ign I'm like if I ignore her, she will go back to sleep. She'll assume that I am right knocked out and we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. There's nothing that important. So I just I go I go back to sleep and I ignore it. And then the next morning we're downstairs having coffee. And I'm like, what did you need at three in the morning? That was so urgent. And she's like, I didn't I didn't need anything. And I'm like, you were outside my door. You were calling me to come out. She's like, no, I wasn't. So that was one time. But another time I heard my ex calling me. So we were still together, but he was out of town. I was asleep. and I wake up because I hear Chris calling me. And I'm like, you're not here.
• 11:06
  Morrighan Lynne And then I knew.
• 11:07
  Carrie Genzel that it must have been a spirit because I had just talked to him. He you know was at home with his family in Philly. Yeah he was not here. Yeah. So I was like, okay, you know, just going back to the archives of what do you do when a ghost is calling you and I had heard somewhere you just don't respond. So I'm just I I just like pulled my covers up and I'm like, not today. That that reminds me of like I and I think it's an indigenous superstition as well, but certainly with the Appalachian Mountains of like if you hear your name at night outside you don't respond. You don't respond. I think my mom had told me that too. Because it may be like in Cuban. Also Cuban. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, I'm not I'm not responding. But the weird thing is like I knew that it was an entity, but I've never felt threatened. Which is strange to say. Like I've never felt well a mimic like I'm endangered. A mimic can be different things to my understanding and I'll get into that more with Jon and Morrighan. But like it can be very playful and like a trickster. And sometimes it can be something darker. My that's my understanding of it. But I'll I'll get into it more with them when we talk about the the different places in the house. But yeah, I think that that's the main thing is that you've never felt threatened or like there's a dark energy. So I think that we have visitors. I don't think it lived here because it wasn't something that I experienced a lot and the house generally feels very calm. Like you know the cast of characters that live here, you know what you're gonna feel in a certain room. Yeah. And it's pretty consistent. But then there will be times randomly where we'll be like, Wait, you're new, what's happening here? Like this energy's you know, and I think it's maybe the street we're on or, you know, the fact that we have another you know historic home with a lot of visitors right across the street, bringing in a lot of, you know, transient energy. I don't know, but I think occasionally we just get people who are curious and they I would say that and from dip we've investigated several locations on the same street and we do get spirits that sort of pop in from the neighborhood. Right? So it's a very active street with a lot of history. and You kind of do get that I think sometimes. It's also this house is it has a very p beautiful presence and so it's maybe you know, that it's kind of a shining light. So it's like w if something's you know, cruising around on the street, they're like, Hey, let's stop in there. Yeah. Right? I also feel a lady presence, like a motherly presence in the hall and in the other room. but I've not had any I mean it's more of just Right. What about on the main level? Have you ever felt anything there? the main level's pretty quiet, honestly. Really, I mean you would think in the parlor or in the dining room. The dining room can give, you know, spookier vibes. Yeah. Nope. That's interesting. So we have a mutual friend and she had mentioned to me that she'd sometimes felt a female energy kind of near the door to the basement in the kitchen area. I don't know if that's the same spirit, like if that's the same energy that she's picking up on, but sort of down in that area. By the back staircase? Yeah. Maybe yeah, maybe. Because that's kind of her area up here, like back there. Yeah. So we'll look into that as well. Yeah. I think I have a good understanding of the basic activity that you felt in the house and the intention, your intention and the intention of the investigation. So we're gonna have Jonathan and Morrighan come in and investigate and we'll see what we uncover. I am so excited to learn more.
• 14:53
  Jonathan Morgan Where do you wanna start?
• 14:54
  Morrighan Lynne You know what's interesting is this floor feels really neutral right now. I feel like everyone is upstairs. So let's work our way let's start upstairs and work our way down.
• 15:03
  Carrie Genzel Okay.
• 15:04
  Morrighan Lynne I feel like they may be hiding from us a little bit.
• 15:06
  Carrie Genzel they don't know us they don't know us.
• 15:08
  Morrighan Lynne But I'm just saying that's what I'm noticing. This this floor feels very neutral. Yeah. I'm avoiding basement because I want like my first taste to be like the real taste. Yeah. So I don't want to go down there and do anything until I'm ready. But upstairs feels like it's very busy.
• 15:24
  Jonathan Morgan So you don't start with the side items when you eat, you go right
• 15:29
  Morrighan Lynne Me on the bone, baby.
• 15:30
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah.
• 15:31
  Morrighan Lynne I'm hungry.
• 15:32
  Carrie Genzel All right. You're gonna scare them all.
• 15:37
  Morrighan Lynne So we'd like to call out to The ones that live in this house. Who Have ownership of this space. And we always like to start investigations.
• 15:59
  Carrie Genzel REM pod's going off downstairs.
• 16:03
  Morrighan Lynne So we always like to s
• 16:06
  Carrie Genzel That's Michael. Is that this? Did he get
• 16:15
  Jonathan Morgan That is like the highest one in the middle. Something's holding. Something's
• 16:18
  Morrighan Lynne Something's holding the antenna.
• 16:20
  Jonathan Morgan holding it. It's the highest level.
• 16:24
  Carrie Genzel hi.
• 16:27
  Morrighan Lynne So we always like to start conversations by introducing ourselves. And then maybe you get to know us, maybe you feel a little bit safer about having us in your home. So my name is Morrighan
• 16:40
  Jonathan Morgan I'm Jonathan.
• 16:41
  Carrie Genzel I'm Carrie.
• 16:44
  Morrighan Lynne And then we have Michael over here. And so you're gonna see some things, you know, around the house that are just our way of connecting with you, of playing games, QA, right? We can ask you questions, you can give us answers if you're open to that. But I wanna say just right off the bat, we absolutely don't mean you any harm. Is it okay that we're here with you? So okay, you can take your time, I can feel what you're thinking about it. And if you left the room, please come back in 'cause I feel like maybe you stepped out. Oh. Okay. So what we like to do with this instrument is this needle here is it'll move when you touch it. And we like to do one for yes, yeah, good. And two for no. You wanna answer some questions that way? That's kind of a fun game we played. That's it, yes. Awesome. Is this your room? Yes. Nice. It has such a pretty view. I've been looking out the window. Do you like the view? You like? Yeah. I like that. Are you a little girl? I feel like you're playing on that one too. Are you a little girl? Yes. Are you the little girl that I saw earlier with the pretty white and blue dress? Yes. No. And you have blonde hair, correct? Yeah, blonde hair. No. Would you call it like sandy blonde or dishwater blonde? Kind of a brownish blonde? Yeah. Okay. Close enough. Awesome. So it is the girl that I saw. So on the way over, I saw a girl, she's probably about seven. She had like a a f a dress, lace socks. She had a her hair pulled back and a ribbon, like a light blue ribbon, long, long blonde hair. And the dress looked like maybe early fifties, but it also could be Victorian, just the style of the dress, like late Victorian. I got that her parents were loud and screaming and her dad was abusive.
• 20:05
  Carrie Genzel Mm.
• 20:05
  Morrighan Lynne So she I heard her hear all the screaming down the hall. I could hear how she heard that. Think this is her room. Sweet.
• 20:19
  Carrie Genzel So that this was her her her safe place.
• 20:24
  Morrighan Lynne Probably. But I I do get that it's that room that's on the same side. Mm. That brown room is is like their room.
• 20:33
  Carrie Genzel Mm-hmm.
• 20:33
  Morrighan Lynne If you come back I'd like to ask you your name. I think I hear you. I want you to come into this space. I'm gonna I'm gonna make a really big bubble around this floor area and you're gonna be safe. Nobody can hurt you. Do you be open to that? Because I feel like you're really afraid to talk to us. I mean. You can let her now.
• 21:18
  Carrie Genzel Hehehehe
• 21:21
  Jonathan Morgan You want to grab it several times?
• 21:24
  Morrighan Lynne See if you can make different colored lights come on. That's what's fun about it.
• 21:27
  Carrie Genzel It's very cool.
• 21:29
  Morrighan Lynne Touch it and play with it and different different colors.
• 21:34
  Jonathan Morgan I'm gonna show you if that's okay. You mind? See this?
• 21:39
  Jennifer Disturbance detected.
• 21:40
  Morrighan Lynne Green.
• 21:41
  Jonathan Morgan See that?
• 21:45
  Carrie Genzel I like the pink. Yeah,
• 21:46
  Morrighan Lynne Purple, yeah.
• 21:47
  Carrie Genzel pink purple. So pretty. you li is that your favorite color? Blue. Blue dress.
• 21:59
  Jonathan Morgan Blue dress. Can
• 22:00
  Morrighan Lynne There you go.
• 22:01
  Carrie Genzel Nice.
• 22:02
  Jonathan Morgan you do that one more time for us?
• 22:04
  Carrie Genzel Can you show us the blue?
• 22:07
  Morrighan Lynne It's okay, you're safe. She keeps looking over.
• 22:10
  Carrie Genzel It's okay.
• 22:15
  Morrighan Lynne We're not gonna let anybody hurt you, okay? Can you come over to this one? I'd like to ask you your name, maybe ask you a couple of questions. Can you touch this one? Remember how we were doing yes and no? I just I wanna see if I know your name. But they didn't call you that. I feel like there's a nickname. Hi is that your name? Is it is it Madeline? But but they called you something else like a nickname? At Madeline. Is it Mandalynn Mandalynn But I I don't think they called you Mandy. It was something else was Yeah, they didn't call you Mandy. It
• 23:30
  Jonathan Morgan Well that was a
• 23:31
  Morrighan Lynne was a whole total different nickname, not even something associated with your name. Yeah, it's like a I know there's a nickname, but it doesn't sound anything like
• 23:43
  Carrie Genzel The name.
• 23:45
  Morrighan Lynne You didn't like your name, did you? She's already answered it for that's why I can't find the name. And she's like, No, I don't want you to know it. You
• 23:56
  Carrie Genzel That's okay.
• 23:58
  Morrighan Lynne like Mandalynn? We can call you Mandalynn She sa there's a gentle yes.
• 24:01
  Carrie Genzel Yes. Mandalynn is a beautiful name. So beautiful. my god.
• 24:07
  Morrighan Lynne Do you have any brothers or sisters? Maybe a baby brother? No. Did you have a baby brother? Did he pass away? Is that why your parents fight? know that you don't like that. Is that why your dad is? No. Is it your dad that yells at your mom? Is that who I keep hearing? Mm-hmm. She doesn't understand why they're yelling 'cause she's so young and she looks
• 24:59
  Carrie Genzel So And it's hard to know what time period. Like the time frame.
• 25:04
  Morrighan Lynne Umhm.
• 25:07
  Jonathan Morgan And try another room.
• 25:09
  Carrie Genzel Do you want to go to the brown room?
• 25:11
  Jennifer you
• 25:12
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah.
• 25:13
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah.
• 25:14
  Carrie Genzel Well it is interesting that we got a hit downstairs in the hall because there's people that I know that have mentioned feeling a presence in that space.
• 25:27
  Morrighan Lynne This feels nauseating.
• 25:29
  Jennifer Huh.
• 25:34
  Carrie Genzel In what way? Like what are you
• 25:36
  Morrighan Lynne nauseated, like upset. Cause when what I do so like just to watch the REM pod back
• 25:50
  Carrie Genzel Just so
• 25:52
  Morrighan Lynne is when I go into a room I'm kinda like sweeping through with my energy. Yeah. And they know that I'm doing that. Because I'm looking for them. So when I see them, they see me and it lights them up and it depends on their emotional state at that time. So the man is like not happy we're here. He's like
• 26:15
  Carrie Genzel Well you're outing his paper.
• 26:19
  Morrighan Lynne behavior exactly. Cause it's like a I I double triple check a lot of times because it it's so common for the man to be like cramming proper and everything is in its perfect place except behind doors. And he was violent behind
• 26:37
  Carrie Genzel Well remember again, this was a family again, depending on what time we're tapping into, but this is a very these were all very high society families, right? This is a very grand house.
• 26:51
  Morrighan Lynne Holding a lot.
• 26:52
  Jonathan Morgan Actually how you do it.
• 26:55
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were gonna have a picnic.
• 26:59
  Morrighan Lynne See the wife in bed, I see him being like I don't know if she's sick. The imagery I keep getting is is yelling and slapping and she's not well but I don't know why. So she's in bed is all I keep seeing and he's I don't know why he's abusing her that way because, jerk.
• 27:24
  Carrie Genzel Right. Yeah.
• 27:27
  Morrighan Lynne I don't know but I I can't quite pierce that level yet. Did you turn them on?
• 27:34
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah. Didn't want to do it while you're talking.
• 27:37
  Morrighan Lynne That's what so I let's talk to the man at the house. Are you open to talking with us? In case you weren't in the other room, we've got this little do dad here. If you just get near it, it'll light up. You come to this, you can touch it. We play a game where we ask questions if you're open to answering it. One for yes, two for no. But that way we can kind of hear your story, hear your side of things. Because all the information I have right now is what I see and I see you were maybe not a very good guy. Now if I'm wrong, this is your chance to clear your name. Or I'm gonna be left with assuming you were a bad guy. So What do you want to do? You were making your daughter really, really afraid of you. And I don't think that's what you intended, is it? I heard steps downstairs. Is everyone still?
• 29:10
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. I heard footsteps too and I thought it was Michael, but he's sitting still.
• 29:15
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah, it was like
• 29:20
  Carrie Genzel Maybe he's downstairs.
• 29:22
  Jonathan Morgan Fuck this shit.
• 29:25
  Carrie Genzel Scotch.
• 29:27
  Morrighan Lynne Ooh, you were an alcoholic, weren't you? feel that actually. And this is actually where I feel the heavy chest. So I I was picking up a woman that either drowned or had pneumonia. Because I actually heard the gurgling liquid in my lungs. So
• 29:52
  Carrie Genzel Wow.
• 29:56
  Morrighan Lynne Is this the woman at the house? One for yes, two for no. Is this the the lady of the house? Are you Mandalynn's mom? Hello lovely.
• 30:10
  Carrie Genzel Hi.
• 30:12
  Jennifer you
• 30:13
  Morrighan Lynne I really feel you and I just wanna give you so much love and support right now. I feel like you really put up with the a lot.
• 30:22
  Carrie Genzel Yes
• 30:24
  Morrighan Lynne Is it your chest I'm feeling? I feel real heavy in the lungs. Were you sick?
• 30:33
  Carrie Genzel Yes.
• 30:34
  Morrighan Lynne Was it pneumonia or maybe a a bronchial infection? They didn't quite know what it was, did they? Was it an infection that they weren't sure about? That's what I thought. If they didn't know what it was and there was panic around are they gonna figure it out in time? But they didn't figure it out in time, did they? Are you still hurting in the chest or you do you
• 30:59
  Carrie Genzel Oh, no.
• 31:01
  Jonathan Morgan Tangerine
• 31:03
  Morrighan Lynne So let's gather your strength, take your time. If you're open, I'd love to ask you a few more questions, okay?
• 31:11
  Carrie Genzel When you said are you an alcoholic?
• 31:13
  Jennifer you
• 31:14
  Carrie Genzel I felt you know that tingling in your tongue when you take that drink and it's like like Scott never a Scotch person. So it's that like that's what I I tasted. I was like
• 31:27
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah, he went down for a scotch.
• 31:30
  Carrie Genzel he can stay down there for a moment.
• 31:32
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah, he actually can stay down there for a moment. Here, let's have some privacy.
• 31:37
  Jennifer you
• 31:38
  Jonathan Morgan We're just gonna close the door for you.
• 31:43
  Morrighan Lynne There we go.
• 31:45
  Carrie Genzel Do you get a name for her? The lights flickering.
• 31:52
  Morrighan Lynne But I think the bed is my better. So are you Mandalynn's mom? Are you her mother? So it's a different timeline. Mm-hmm.
• 32:10
  Jonathan Morgan Do you know who Mandalynn is?
• 32:13
  Morrighan Lynne Stepmom. You're her stepmom. Yes. Stepmom. Did you have did you give birth to a little boy but he didn't make it, right? Did you give birth to a little boy? Yes. I'm so sorry, honey. Is that why your husband's angry at you?
• 32:39
  Carrie Genzel Oh gosh.
• 32:40
  Morrighan Lynne She lost the boy.
• 32:41
  Jonathan Morgan Mm-hmm.
• 32:44
  Carrie Genzel my
• 32:42
  Jennifer you
• 32:44
  Carrie Genzel gosh. That breaks my heart.
• 32:47
  Morrighan Lynne I think we can do one more. I'm gonna call Mandalynn in, okay? Hey Mandalynn, you wanna come in here? He's not going to scold you in here. Come on in. That's okay, he's not coming.
• 33:05
  Jonathan Morgan Just us.
• 33:10
  Morrighan Lynne Do you want to play with that? I think you love that, don't you?
• 33:16
  Carrie Genzel I know I'm gonna sit down. Well I feel like when she's in the room I wanna get on the floor and play. Yeah. Jax.
• 33:28
  Morrighan Lynne So Mandalynn if you wanna you can play with that. I think your mom likes this over here. That way you each have something to play with. Is that that sounds fun, huh?
• 33:39
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah. Yeah, you can do something together. She can play with that one and you can play with this one.
• 33:48
  Jennifer you
• 33:49
  Carrie Genzel That was weird. I felt like for a second I almost felt like I was on a boat.
• 33:55
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah.
• 33:56
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. It was like just like a whoop and then it stopped.
• 34:01
  Morrighan Lynne Feels like there's a shift change in the house.
• 34:03
  Carrie Genzel It does feel like there is
• 34:05
  Morrighan Lynne There's a different there's a different era.
• 34:12
  Carrie Genzel So mimics, that's something I want to talk to you more about, but mimics I've heard can be just like pranksters, but I've also heard that they can be something dark.
• 34:23
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah, I've heard that they can they can purposely mess with people in a bad way.
• 34:32
  Carrie Genzel Right.
• 34:32
  Jonathan Morgan To make people think that they're looking crazy. Maybe people think that their family is at home or it was in the house, but it's not their family.
• 34:41
  Carrie Genzel That's happened to me at my parents' house. It mimicked my mother's voice. And I was running out to an appointment and I heard it say hi in my mother's voice. And I s I remember looking into the empty room and I said, I don't have time for you today. And I just But my my dad says it's mimicked her voice and my voice in the house. So I don't know what that's about, but mimics, that's something
• 35:12
  Morrighan Lynne know what they are. They freak me out. I don't even know how to deal with that. I just could don't open the door. Don't let the
• 35:21
  Carrie Genzel Don't let them in. She she never did. She always kept the door shut. But yeah, that's something she experienced up here. Not a lot, but it happened like two or three times. So I don't know if it's something passing through, like
• 35:39
  Morrighan Lynne they're connected or attached to the person, not the home. Like they follow people around.
• 35:47
  Carrie Genzel Interesting. Well we'll look more into that.
• 35:50
  Morrighan Lynne I don't know much about them, but I always took it that they follow a person.
• 35:53
  Carrie Genzel Interesting.
• 35:54
  Jonathan Morgan I know they will attach to a person
• 35:56
  Morrighan Lynne Right. So it's not like a haunting, like a house haunting. It
• 36:01
  Carrie Genzel Something that's
• 36:01
  Morrighan Lynne onto a person like, I like them.
• 36:04
  Carrie Genzel And they mess with you.
• 36:06
  Jennifer Yeah.
• 36:08
  Morrighan Lynne Do you know what a mimic is, what we would call a mimic? Maybe something different in your language. Do you know what that is? One for yes, two for no. Do you know what a mimic is?
• 36:25
  Carrie Genzel No. Is there another word for it?
• 36:30
  Morrighan Lynne lovely.
• 36:31
  Jonathan Morgan Do you know what a entity or spirit is that mocks people in their own voice?
• 36:38
  Jennifer you
• 36:38
  Carrie Genzel Okay.
• 36:41
  Morrighan Lynne We would call that mimic just to say time. So is there a mimic in this house?
• 36:51
  Carrie Genzel Yes.
• 36:52
  Morrighan Lynne Is it attached to the house? Like does it stay in the house even when people move?
• 36:58
  Jennifer you
• 37:04
  Carrie Genzel Yeah.
• 37:05
  Morrighan Lynne in the basement.
• 37:09
  Carrie Genzel Left.
• 37:11
  Jennifer you
• 37:12
  Carrie Genzel Do you get that it's coming from the basement and it comes up here from time to time?
• 37:16
  Morrighan Lynne I feel it, right? 'Cause I'm scanning. Do we wanna shift switch, up?
• 37:23
  Carrie Genzel I
• 37:23
  Jonathan Morgan You wanna try something on the lower
• 37:27
  Jennifer Thanks
• 37:28
  Jonathan Morgan level or basement?
• 38:11
  Carrie Genzel Here we go.
• 38:12
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah, with the
• 38:13
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 38:14
  Carrie Genzel Okay. are there
• 38:15
  Jonathan Morgan See looking like down there, that's where the the dirt is.
• 38:20
  Carrie Genzel there's more dirt. Okay.
• 38:22
  Morrighan Lynne Thank
• 38:23
  Jonathan Morgan This room is good. Okay. Let's come in. Wanna come in here or the dirt room?
• 38:29
  Carrie Genzel there's two places that's a big stuff that she pointed out is the here and in there. That's the face.
• 38:40
  Jonathan Morgan All right, I need to come in here and s put my stuff on
• 38:42
  Carrie Genzel I just wanna cry. I feel like sobbing, like weeping. I thought you said you wanna fly. No. Right. sad? Like weeping and wailing. Male or female? Female. really? So this would have been
• 39:01
  Jonathan Morgan good, good, good, good.
• 39:03
  Carrie Genzel this is the staff, right? Like this is back of house. yeah.
• 39:08
  Jonathan Morgan Hey, you're on wheels. Hi there. Okay. Sure equipment. I know. It's like a droid.
• 39:10
  Carrie Genzel I was talking to a second.
• 39:16
  Jonathan Morgan He's gonna help me. Yeah, so this is a droid I'm
• 39:18
  Carrie Genzel It's your droid.
• 39:22
  Morrighan Lynne Okay.
• 39:24
  Jonathan Morgan yeah.
• 39:24
  Carrie Genzel Yeah, you're to Now that door also goes to that same area. So there's a whole other room over there? Should we go in that room? There's a storage space and there is exposed dirt and there's exposed dirt over here. That's that was the summer kitchen and it burnt. We don't know when and it never was rebuilt. What's the I wanna go feel that door?
• 40:09
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 40:14
  Carrie Genzel Thank you. Ew. That's just the alarm. It's not gonna go on.
• 40:25
  Morrighan Lynne BAM!
• 40:29
  Carrie Genzel This at all. Something's wrong. Ooh. Just be careful 'cause it's very unstable looking.
• 40:37
  Morrighan Lynne floor.
• 40:41
  Carrie Genzel I don't know what it is. I mean I know it's a lot of electrical, so that's gonna be EMF. It's too n too loud, I can't Too loud like like too many people talking. Mm-hmm. The basement is flooded, is what I keep hearing. The basement is flooded. So basement is flooded can mean there's so many people, so many souls. It's that. It's not water. Right. So they're all down here. Is something holding them down here? Or are they hiding down here? That's a good question. Or is it the land? It might be land. I d I don't know what's going on in here. I don't like it. So I feel like if we go in that room we might be able to bring some of it in there, but it's too loud in here. There's like a weird smell overseas. Nope, I'm good. Bye bye. Go. We're going out. So Jon, you're y you're wanting that door open?
• 42:02
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah, why not? Okay. Invite to come on in.
• 42:05
  Carrie Genzel Okay. Now that door for just for both of you, that door goes to that same room we were just in. Okay. Not you know, obviously that, but
• 42:16
  Jonathan Morgan I'm gonna open this a little bit wider too.
• 42:19
  Carrie Genzel all the doors are open.
• 42:22
  Jonathan Morgan Welcome to my world.
• 42:25
  Carrie Genzel Alright, what do you got set up here? This looks like a trap.
• 42:28
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah, so I've got the light spread here, a little matrix of light. if we have anything that crosses in between, you can see how right see right there, can you see how that moves?
• 42:45
  Carrie Genzel Yeah.
• 42:46
  Jonathan Morgan That's what we're looking for. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Carrie Genzel Just gonna break the light.
• 42:50
  Jonathan Morgan let me have that.
• 42:52
  Morrighan Lynne God.
• 42:53
  Jonathan Morgan And I just want to check something. That's really what I'd like. Are now we can really see. Are your cameras okay with that? Yeah. Yeah. So well I don't know if that's gonna do any difference. Yeah, it's just a lantern. Yeah.
• 43:09
  Carrie Genzel Is that just a lantern or is that a storm lantern? It was a device. Like I was like, What's gonna happen now? It lights up.
• 43:16
  Jonathan Morgan So what I have the the laser light show here. Yeah. Like I said, if anything comes you can see the particles hitting it, the dust. Yeah. But see right above, like if anything breaks, yeah, we'll see it. I also have my trifield meter here to check for EMF meters. So if we see something, look at that as well to see if it hits, see if it pings.
• 43:38
  Carrie Genzel Just so you know, there's like a plethora of wiring behind that wall.
• 43:44
  Jonathan Morgan I bet. Yeah, right now we have thirteen
• 43:48
  Morrighan Lynne Thank
• 43:49
  Jonathan Morgan we have nine. It's going from nine to twenty-two. Well it's it's fluctuating a little bit. It's down to seven. that's so we'll see if it pings. and then of course we have the the REM pod here. What?
• 44:02
  Carrie Genzel What the fuck was that? What? It's locked.
• 44:06
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 44:07
  Carrie Genzel I locked it. Did you not hear something?
• 44:09
  Jonathan Morgan I heard something hit just now.
• 44:12
  Carrie Genzel Something hit the door.
• 44:14
  Jonathan Morgan I
• 44:14
  Morrighan Lynne Push.
• 44:15
  Jonathan Morgan did hear it.
• 44:16
  Carrie Genzel It pushed on the door. Cause I it's locked.
• 44:21
  Morrighan Lynne Bye.
• 44:22
  Jonathan Morgan Not heard something.
• 44:23
  Carrie Genzel It went like but not as loud. Yeah, I heard something and I just thought it was you moving around. I was still. Does he want the door open?
• 44:32
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 44:35
  Jonathan Morgan Is that someone here?
• 44:36
  Carrie Genzel That's the alarm. Okay. because this these doors are alarmed, so it's just outside basement.
• 44:40
  Jonathan Morgan Something hit. Something hit the door.
• 44:43
  Morrighan Lynne Alright.
• 44:44
  Carrie Genzel Well, do they want the door open? So you went and closed the other door.
• 44:49
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 44:50
  Jonathan Morgan Did you just say that you heard it too?
• 44:52
  Morrighan Lynne Okay.
• 44:53
  Carrie Genzel And every
• 44:54
  Jonathan Morgan Can you just say that I heard it too? Yes.
• 44:56
  Carrie Genzel Okay. And everyone was still chuck. Everyone was still.
• 45:01
  Jonathan Morgan That was a hit, I'm gonna say, 'cause I heard that. Alright, I also have the XLS set up. It's the three D imagery three D imagery mapping that's hitting casting throughout the room. So we're just gonna have this stationary and see if we get anything. And more than likely I'll have to watch the footage l later to see what we get. but yeah, it's gonna watch this whole room.
• 45:35
  Morrighan Lynne Thank
• 45:36
  Jonathan Morgan That was fascinating with that door though.
• 45:38
  Carrie Genzel Well I'm wondering if it was like open the door or get the F out. There's someone in the hall there, I don't like them and I want my back against the wall right now.
• 45:50
  Jonathan Morgan It's creepy down here. Alright, let's let's settle in.
• 45:53
  Carrie Genzel Yeah.
• 45:55
  Jonathan Morgan Let's let's settle in. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah, it's a different energy here.
• 46:01
  Carrie Genzel Floor okay to sit on? I think so. Hi.
• 46:14
  Jonathan Morgan This one.
• 46:15
  Carrie Genzel Do we have our
• 46:17
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 46:17
  Carrie Genzel other device or
• 46:19
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 46:25
  Jonathan Morgan So now that you know how that works, let us know that it that wasn't a mistake, that wasn't by accident. You can touch it one more time. Just hang on to it.
• 46:44
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. You don't like that we're here, do you? You have to give us some sort of indication that you want us to leave. Or
• 46:57
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 46:58
  Carrie Genzel we're just gonna stay. Is that you knocking on the door over there? Okay, we're just gonna stay.
• 47:28
  Jonathan Morgan Was that you that pushed the door after Morrighan closed it? She closed it and locked it for a reason.
• 47:43
  Carrie Genzel I wonder if there's anyone down here that needs help that's not stuck.
• 47:55
  Jonathan Morgan Did you not want the door cro the door closed?
• 47:58
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. sit and try and tune in because I wanna understand what I'm feeling. Just so much.
• 48:12
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 48:17
  Jonathan Morgan And I'm using the thermo to scan the room. Yeah.
• 48:22
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 48:28
  Carrie Genzel I wonder if there's anything in the
• 48:36
  Jonathan Morgan If you push on the on the door, if you push it again just as hard,
• 48:42
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 48:42
  Jonathan Morgan we'll go ahead and unlock it. If you don't want it locked, just let us know.
• 48:55
  Carrie Genzel Do you wanna give the rules for that device?
• 48:59
  Jonathan Morgan So if you wanna answer some questions, you touch it one for yes. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yes, you wanna answer some questions. Okay. So that's one for yes. If you if you wanna no, hit it twice. So two for no. Okay, you understand, thank you. Was that you at the door?
• 49:23
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 49:25
  Jonathan Morgan The door that we locked will be here that I'm pointing. Yeah, that was you. Okay, that was a hard yes. Hard push.
• 49:31
  Carrie Genzel That was a
• 49:32
  Jonathan Morgan Thanks for that defined yes. Do you want us to unlock the the door? Yes.
• 49:44
  Carrie Genzel Will you communicate with us if we do?
• 49:49
  Jonathan Morgan Yes. And say yes. All right. I know. Okay. No, I said unlock. Unlock
• 49:53
  Carrie Genzel It's a trap. It's a trap. Alright, we're gonna open it. unlocked.
• 49:58
  Jonathan Morgan it. I said unlock.
• 49:59
  Carrie Genzel Well it'll open 'cause it'll just swings open. Right.
• 50:02
  Jonathan Morgan Well I'm gonna unlock it for ya.
• 50:04
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:05
  Carrie Genzel Is that better?
• 50:07
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:08
  Jonathan Morgan The agreement was to unlock it. Okay.
• 50:11
  Carrie Genzel Is that okay?
• 50:12
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:14
  Carrie Genzel That says no. Do you want it open? he's gone. It's gonna be he's at the door.
• 50:23
  Jonathan Morgan He's gonna he's gonna open it. If you want it open, just go ahead and swing it open.
• 50:27
  Carrie Genzel You can open it. It's unlocked.
• 50:29
  Jonathan Morgan Swing it open. You hit it before. There it You can
• 50:32
  Carrie Genzel We know you can do.
• 50:33
  Jonathan Morgan do it.
• 50:34
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:36
  Jonathan Morgan Swing it open. I unlocked it like like we agreed.
• 50:43
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:44
  Carrie Genzel I imagine it'd take a lot of energy.
• 50:47
  Jonathan Morgan Well he hit it before. I know.
• 50:49
  Carrie Genzel You've got a lot of energy. Unless he doesn't have any more energy.
• 50:52
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 50:55
  Jonathan Morgan I know you can do it. Swig it open.
• 51:02
  Carrie Genzel Probably, you know, you can just kick it, push it, it'll swing open.
• 51:07
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 51:11
  Jonathan Morgan Is there anyone else in the room that would like to talk to us?
• 51:20
  Carrie Genzel Or let's do it like this. Whoever is in the hallway, come in here. You're
• 51:25
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 51:26
  Carrie Genzel lurking over there and it's creepy.
• 51:30
  Jonathan Morgan Don't be a creeper.
• 51:31
  Carrie Genzel Don't be a creeper. Come inside. Come see all of our cool toys. I want to know, I would I will have a very direct question. I'd like to know in this part of the house, is there anywhere from one to ten spirits?
• 51:47
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 51:48
  Carrie Genzel No. Eleven to twenty. Yes or no? Count up. Eleven to twenty. Okay, so there's around twenty. Do the all twenty souls, twenty ish, do they are they do they belong to the house? Okay. Are there any more that don't belong to the house? Yes. So are there more than twenty?
• 52:30
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 52:32
  Carrie Genzel There's a lot. There's a lot here in this floor. So what are they all doing down here? Union meeting.
• 52:37
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 52:39
  Carrie Genzel meeting. I know. You ready for us to leave?
• 52:47
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 52:48
  Carrie Genzel No. No. Thank you. I'm
• 52:51
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah, we like it here.
• 52:52
  Carrie Genzel still waiting for somebody to push that door open now that we unlocked it. Yes, you're right. Go ahead
• 53:04
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 53:05
  Carrie Genzel and open it. Of all of the people down here, no one can push that open.
• 53:11
  Morrighan Lynne Thanks.
• 53:14
  Carrie Genzel Come on, you guys can do it. Somebody can do it. Or you can all work together. Do it, do it, do it. They said yes. all right. Well Okay. And go. They went on to they went on to do it. Do you want this noise to turn on?
• 53:41
  Jonathan Morgan Mm-hmm.
• 53:41
  Carrie Genzel We call I thought I heard okay. There we go.
• 53:46
  Jonathan Morgan Yeah. There we go. Just gotta make some adjustments. Yep,
• 53:52
  Carrie Genzel it's
• 53:53
  Jonathan Morgan you're welcome. Was that a thank you?
• 53:55
  Carrie Genzel That yeah. Thank you. No, really all of us. Thank you.
• 54:00
  Jonathan Morgan We don't like it either. Yes.
• 54:02
  Morrighan Lynne Okay.
• 54:05
  Jonathan Morgan But it's one of the only things we have to like communicate with you.
• 54:08
  Carrie Genzel You can hear your voice. So cute. Everybody's like, Yay, yes better. There's a party going
• 54:14
  Jonathan Morgan So this is the machine right here. If you can talk to it, if you can direct your focus right here, that's what we need.
• 54:26
  Carrie Genzel Can you hear I can't really hear what it's saying?
• 54:34
  Jonathan Morgan So if you
• 54:38
  Carrie Genzel Hello? Hello. Sounded female.
• 54:41
  Jonathan Morgan Was that the girl?
• 54:47
  Carrie Genzel Mandalynn are you here?
• 54:54
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 54:55
  Jonathan Morgan Hi.
• 54:57
  Carrie Genzel my god. That totally sounded like Polgergeist.
• 55:01
  Jonathan Morgan You have such a sweet voice. Yeah you do.
• 55:06
  Carrie Genzel so nice to meet you, honey. Are you having fun tonight?
• 55:17
  Jonathan Morgan Is this fun for you? Have some friends over. Talk to this right here. If you want to sit down over here, you can talk to it. I know we we've already talked about what your name is, but can you tell us one more time?
• 55:45
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah.
• 55:50
  Carrie Genzel What?
• 55:52
  Jonathan Morgan Can you tell it through the box? We love to hear your voice. Because I don't know.
• 56:03
  Carrie Genzel Can you tell me how many people how many people are in this room, not including us?
• 56:17
  Morrighan Lynne Bye!
• 56:19
  Jonathan Morgan Are you back?
• 56:23
  Carrie Genzel How are you?
• 56:28
  Jonathan Morgan And is that is that you?
• 56:45
  Carrie Genzel Why are there so many souls in this part of the house? What are you here for? Here. Here.
• 56:53
  Jonathan Morgan Here.
• 56:54
  Carrie Genzel Why are you here? What is this for you? Why have you gathered?
• 57:04
  Jonathan Morgan I said no. No. You're not gathered. You're you're not gathering around us?
• 57:11
  Carrie Genzel Are you hiding? Yes. Are you escaping? It's okay, you're okay it's okay to answer. We won't tell anybody. Yes. That's heavy. Can we help them? sentence. What would you like us to know about you? Better. Is there anyone here that needs help?
• 58:24
  Jonathan Morgan Come back and talk to us.
• 58:25
  Morrighan Lynne you
• 58:26
  Carrie Genzel Here's what I think.
• 58:38
  Jonathan Morgan What you want us to know? Good. We can hear you. Come on, come talk to us.
• 59:09
  Morrighan Lynne you you
• 59:33
  Jonathan Morgan Come on in.
• 59:51
  Carrie Genzel Are there people coming in from the street now? I feel like there's more people here now. They're like it's a disco party. Yes. Yes. This always happens and you have to make them stand in line. Are you here for the party? Yes. This is a party. Mm-mm mm-mm. Who wants to talk with us? It feels like we're getting flooded with a whole bunch of a whole bunch of other people, so it's like it's full. But the ones we actually want to talk to are receding now. They're not. Because it's like some bunch of people just invaded the party. Who are these fooligans? Like we're gonna go now.
• 1:00:50
  Morrighan Lynne Sometimes spirits will feel something familiar or see something familiar and then be like, I know what that is, I belong there. And then when one gathers maybe another and another, another because maybe that's their reality but not our plane, our dimension.
• 1:01:10
  Carrie Genzel Right. It never actually was that location that right.
• 1:01:15
  Morrighan Lynne It feels disjointed in that way. I definitely feel a lot of people here but maybe they don't understand why they're here.
• 1:01:21
  Carrie Genzel Right.
• 1:01:26
  Carrie Genzel This has been a really interesting investigation. And like so many times like I think I know like what we're or or who we may encounter and that's not at all what happens because there's so many layers to who the history, the land, the these the people
• 1:01:47
  Morrighan Lynne Spectators, you don't know.
• 1:01:49
  Carrie Genzel that come in, right? And You know, I always feel like we connect with who we're supposed to connect with and there's a reason for that. So, you know, as you said, there's for you, the work doesn't stop here, it continues 'cause you continue to get things or tap into things or and I know you go back and look at the evidence review and stuff like that. So we'll we'll follow up with all of that and kind of regroup and sort of see where that leaves us. But it's never as simple as Just coming in and going, we got all the answers, right? Never have all.
• 1:02:28
  Morrighan Lynne And then
• 1:02:29
  Jonthan Morgan Even when you leave.
• 1:02:30
  Morrighan Lynne more questions.
• 1:02:31
  Carrie Genzel There's always more questions. that's true. Yeah, yeah. Well, this is one of the, you know, historic districts in Macon and it was very high society, right? In this neighborhood. not of a lot of very notable families lived on this street. So you've got a lot of history, a lot of secrets, things that people didn't talk about or reveal, people that a lot of death because people died. A lot of children died back then. and people back then died in their house. Mm-hmm. And they had the funeral in the house. Right. Right? They have funeral parlors. Right. So they had the viewing and everything. So it's a different energy, right, than the than the homes we you know, that are built today and whatever. We wouldn't do that today. And so that's gonna carry That's gonna carry some weight, that's gonna and it's gonna imprint, right? Sorrow, grief. We we've encountered that even at 1842, right? There was a that woman you encountered who was grieving. Yeah. and that was something for women that just was not tolerated, right? A grieving woman was like seen as like right. So those women just like stuffed it down. Right. Right? And kept moving. Or were punished for losing a child. Yeah. so it was tough. Life was tough.
• 1:04:08
  Morrighan Lynne It was all about how you were being perceived, not who you actually were. 'Cause it had to fit it had to fit the mold.
• 1:04:19
  Carrie Genzel Not Yeah.
• 1:04:19
  Jonthan Morgan The appearance.
• 1:04:20
  Carrie Genzel Yeah. And I think that's what's interesting about when we come in, because especially because that's your profession is your heal healing, helping people through their trauma and their journey. And I come from a mental health aspect as well. And you know, Jon you definitely work. Right. You do all that stuff. So we come in and we're like, yeah, it's okay. Stop it. Why are you talking? Stop talking about it. Stop talking about it. It's a different time and that's it. When we walk into these properties, we're like walking through different timelines, right? And different even our appearance might be weird to them. Right? Because of the way we're dressed or because to them like people I was saying this the other day, like people were really tiny. Like, right? You look at old houses and the sinks. Even in this house, right? The banister, like the thing is low and
• 1:05:20
  Morrighan Lynne The shoes were like
• 1:05:23
  Carrie Genzel so we must look like giants coming in. We're like, what's going on? Like we're like the Kool-Aid guy coming through the like coming through the the brick wall. So it's very different. And like I say all the time, Macon and these historical properties are not investigated, so they don't know what the heck's going on.
• 1:05:46
  Morrighan Lynne Yeah. We catch one by surprise for sure.
• 1:05:48
  Carrie Genzel Right.
• 1:05:50
  Jonthan Morgan And the dynamics of having like you know depending on what household it is, having strong women come into a room and ask questions typically a certain
• 1:06:00
  Carrie Genzel those dudes don't like that.
• 1:06:03
  Jonthan Morgan person wouldn't want answered yes.
• 1:06:05
  Morrighan Lynne Like stop trying to make my wife grow.
• 1:06:11
  Carrie Genzel And so like I find that always interesting too, especially we're in when we're in like the bedrooms because that's not a place that guests are received, right? And now we're standing in someone's bedroom going, Hi, we have some questions for you and your wife. You can leave and have a scotch. We have some qu you know, and that's Different too. Right? Yeah. And then on the flip side there's times that we're very much like I think of Mr. Johnston at the Hay House, who was very like Hello, right? Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Jonthan Morgan Are you ready to
• 1:06:44
  Carrie Genzel So it it depends. I think it's always interesting what we encounter and I always try to remember like we don't know what timeline they're in, like what they think is going on.
• 1:06:56
  Morrighan Lynne Well, especially these houses because there's multiple families and multiple eras and it did. I felt I felt the shift upstairs. It it changed like it's like we leveled into a new era. It was very
• 1:07:11
  Jonthan Morgan And the the top floor it felt like those you know, those people actually lived here. They had a life here. But
• 1:07:19
  Carrie Genzel Right.
• 1:07:19
  Jonthan Morgan here down in the lower like basement area, these were like were visitors, like we're here for a good time, except for the guy at the door who wanted to keep the door open.
• 1:07:31
  Carrie Genzel Well I think there's kind of a couple of things like there are those that are here in that other in that room, but then like the party came in. Right, right. Yeah. Hey. For sure. yeah, you're right. It's different energy. There's a lot that flows and I, you know, again, I don't know in terms of the the geographical, I know that under the The hay house and under different parts of the city there's there were like tunnels that were used like aqueducts and kind of things. So like I don't know Prohibition. Who knows, right? Like things that were hidden during the war. Mm, right. Right? People were hiding their valuables and there's a lot of secrets.
• 1:08:22
  Morrighan Lynne They don't want us finding
• 1:08:25
  Carrie Genzel Especially us outsiders. Yeah. Yeah. That's a whole thing too, because we're outsiders. Yeah. Right? True. We're not Macon, Macon, people. Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  Jonthan Morgan Born and raised, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Carrie Genzel Well, this has been really exciting and I'm excited to hear what you get in the coming days. And I'm excited to see if there's any evidence because there's always s some something really fun that you discover. And yeah, we'll we'll we'll check back in.
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  Carrie Genzel When we began this investigation, we knew there were questions about who might still be connected to this house. What we didn't expect was how many questions we'd have when we left. We met a little girl named Mandalynn who seemed frightened of her father. We encountered a woman Morrighan believed was connected to her. And in the basement, we found ourselves surrounded by more voices than we could make sense of. But there was one exchange I couldn't stop thinking about. When we asked if some of them were hiding, the answer was yes. When we asked if they were escaping, again, the answer was yes. Which left us with a much bigger question. What Were they hiding from? As we packed up that night, Morrighan felt there was still work to be done, particularly with Mandalynn and the woman she'd encountered. And over the days that followed it became clear that our investigation wasn't over. There was more happening in this house than we'd understood that first night. So we went back. Next week we return. To continue the investigation. If you've had an unexplained experience or would like to request an investigation, visit echoesofthessouth.com. Join us as we continue uncovering the stories, the history, and the mysteries that echo throughout the South. Until next time, stay close.