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Drive Thru News #2 - August ‘20 · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  What's going on, everybody, and welcome to The Drive Thru, our monthly recap
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  where we put together a menu of local, racing, and random car adjacent news.
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  I'm your host, Brad.
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  With me, as always, is Eric.
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  Heyo!
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  And we also have Tanya.
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  Now let's pull up to window number one for some industry news.
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  I would like to talk about BMW.
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  Before you all change the channel, BMW has announced, well their M division
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  has announced, that they're going to finally make A touring for those of
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  you that don't know touring means wagon and BMW has never made an M3 wagon.
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  The closest they ever got was the 46 where they made a prototype and there
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  have been all kinds of conversions where people have taken regular three series
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  wagons and converted them with all the M, you know, parts and all that good stuff.
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  Well, BMW M has confirmed today that they are going to finally release one.
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  It's going to be built on the same chassis as the M3 Sedan and the M4 Coupe.
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  It's going to have the same motor, the same everything.
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  It's going to be basically the same car, just the long roof edition.
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  You know, all the long roof fans in the club rejoice.
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  Yay!
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  Here's the problem though.
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  There's several.
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  Well, the one glaring problem for us is that it is not coming to the U.
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  S.
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  No surprise there.
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  What are some of the other problems, Eric?
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  You say there's several.
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  Well, other, other than the fact that it's A BMW.
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  Well, yeah.
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  And that's, that's, that's my leading problem.
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  The second problem is that grill.
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  'cause if it looks anything like the current M three, you can keep it.
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  Oh my God.
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  , the spy photos that rodent track posted of the back were just a rendering and
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  that was, you know, a wide body version of the current three series, which
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  I'm okay with from that rear angle, but the rest of it, mm, not so much.
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  If from a usability standpoint, I know that's not the point of our performance
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  wagon, but if it's anything like the current three series wagons, it's.
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  It's pretty much useless and just buy an M3 and call it a day.
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  You're not really missing out on a whole lot.
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  I will say there's a probably an upside to it and the fact that even though
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  we'll never see it, it is going to be available in a manual transmission.
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  So plus a million points to BMW for putting a standard.
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  Well, that's, that's the lower model.
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  I mean the lower model of the M3.
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  Now if you want to get the competition model with the 30 more horsepower
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  and the all wheel drive optional.
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  They did away with the manual.
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  It's got to be automatic only.
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  I'm suspecting it's probably got something to do with the manual
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  probably has a hard time dealing with the torque numbers or something.
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  I mean, that's the excuse that a lot of these manufacturers have started
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  to give lately, but it's still a disappointment and all wheel drive manual
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  wagon with close to 500 horsepower.
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  I mean, sign me up if that's the case, except for signing without one from BMW.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  And the competitors too, at the Audi and the Mercedes.
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  Uh, you know, the RS4, RS6s, and the Mercedes E63 wagons, we're
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  never going to see those either.
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  I mean, wagons, as we covered in a later episode that our listeners will
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  enjoy, wagons in the United States are basically dead at this point.
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  I was going to say, so if you've got the money for an M3 Touring in the U.
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  S., go out and buy yourself a Porsche Macan S.
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  I would agree with that statement and you'd probably be much
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  happier at the end of the day.
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  Exactly.
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  Tanya, we know how you feel about the wagons.
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  How do you feel about this story?
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  I could care less.
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  she, she checked out at wagon, at bmw, at m at, at automatic, all of
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  those things, at not coming to the us.
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  She, she has not been a part of this story at all.
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  , all the boxes got checked right from the headline.
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  , well Poo.
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  Anyway, you had me at Giant Kidney Grill and I walked away.
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  Oh my god, that grill looks like, how is that legal?
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  I mean, that's why it's not coming to the U.
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  S.
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  because it's not legal.
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  It does not have the pedestrian crash guards.
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  I just want to know who the engineer at BMW was that was at Waffle House and was
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  staring at the cook going, you know what?
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  That's a good idea for what a grill should look like.
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  It looks like a waffle maker.
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  That's wide open They were clear.
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  They were clearly looking at a large mouth bass and they just said let's
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  put two of them together And there's our new grill, you know, it's not the
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  kidney It's the bass It's the upside to the aftermarket of the new bmws is that
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  all the tuners are going to make the grills look like the old cars So I guess
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  there's the plus But you know speaking of crazy town I think that is the new
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  name for Detroit these days because there is all sorts of bonkers going on.
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  We got CEOs stepping down, Jim Hackett from Ford is out, we've got GM still
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  suing Chrysler over like secret clandestine moles and they're playing
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  spy versus spy and offshore accounts.
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  I mean, it's like the next edition of James Bond is going on between
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  Fiat and Chrysler and, and, and GM.
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  And then we've got on the same, same token, uh, Caesar, their Remini.
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  Cesare Remiti.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Who brought Fiat through all the tough times through the darkness.
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  He's like the Iacocca.
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  Of fiat has passed away.
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  So there's all sorts of turmoil.
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  There's all sorts of upheaval.
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  And when you read all these different articles that we're going to put out
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  there, you're still wondering what happened to the merger between fiat
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  Peugeot and all the rest of that, which nobody's talking about right now.
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  And then on top of it all, they've decided they're going to come up
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  with a new name for the company.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so yeah, they're changing the company name too.
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  Stellantis?
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  Stellantis.
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  Let's go to Atlantis in a Stellantis.
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  I mean, I mean, what are these people?
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  What are they doing over there?
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  They're drinking absinthe.
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  Yeah, I don't understand.
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  Apparently, the word is rooted in the
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  Which I don't know if I fully agree with that, but Stella in Italian is star.
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  Yeah, but why couldn't we have just called it Atlantis?
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  They could have had Aquaman as their mascot.
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  Because Atlantis is trademarked.
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  There's an entire resort.
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  There's an entire city under the water.
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  You can't just take a whole city.
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  Yes, the Alantans, or the resident people from the city
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  of Atlantis lost under the sea.
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  Have a copyright.
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  I was just thinking about it because it would have made sense with like
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  the Trident, the Maserati logo would have made total sense there.
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  And then, you know, the cars are starting to look like fish nowadays anyway.
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  So it would have been completely thematic.
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  We could have had these really cool like fish scale paint jobs, like the
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  old, uh, the Ford Mystique where it would turn green and purple and change.
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  I think there's a whole theme that they're missing out on here.
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  But this Atlantis thing, do not understand what is going on over there.
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  I mean, they have lost their minds.
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  As long as they continue to make the Hellcat, I'm okay
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  with whatever else they do.
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  Well, and that's part of the whole, you know, the lawsuit thing
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  and the labor with GM and Fiat.
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  I mean, it's just like, what is going on?
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  Like, why does GM even care at the end of the day what Fiat Chrysler is up to?
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  Like, let them just go build their muscle cars.
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  Are you jealous because the C8 is a disappointment?
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  Moving on.
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  So Brad, you've got some other Detroit news.
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  What have you got for us?
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  So yeah, Chevy just came out with a C8 Corvette.
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  Everybody's heard about it.
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  It's, you know, it made the rounds about, you know, what,
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  three, four, five, six months ago.
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  That's not what we're talking about right now.
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  Right now we're going to talk about the outgoing C7 and the C7 ZR1.
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  Because apparently at the time Chevrolet claimed that the
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  C7 ZR1, you know, with a 6.
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  2 liter supercharged motor, a V8, 755 horsepower, its top speed
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  was claimed to 212 miles an hour.
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  That's the official number from Chevrolet.
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  Really?
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  Yep.
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  Well, it turns out the car can go just a little bit quicker with the optional
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  eight speed automatic transmission fitted with the low downforce
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  arrow setup, not the, uh, you know, giant wings and all that stuff that
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  some of us have seen at the track.
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  It can get to a whopping Miles per hour.
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  I gotta say that's pretty impressive that it's knocking on the doors
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  of your What your law ferraris and your 918s and all those?
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  McLaren p1s.
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  I mean for a car that costs a fraction of the cost that's
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  pretty damn awesome Yeah, exactly.
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  I mean, and whether you like the design of the C7 or not, I mean, styling is,
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  is an acquired taste in a lot of cases.
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  It's a pretty slippery car compared to some of the old ones.
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  There's a lot of engineering in that.
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  I've had the luxury of riding in many C7s on NCM at the factory test track.
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  Phenomenal car.
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  Absolutely phenomenal car.
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  But to know that the ZR1, you know, that kind of final hoorah for that
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  car, that it can do it well over 200 miles an hour is that's impressive.
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  I never, I thought, figured the top speed on a, on a Corvette
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  was probably 170, 180 at best.
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  But over 200 and on a, on a standard Corvette, you're probably right.
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  It's probably around 180, 186, something like that.
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  But yeah, the ZR1 with the giant blower on top and, you know, and
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  the correct aerodynamic bits.
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  Yeah.
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  214 miles an hour.
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  Dang.
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  That is commendable.
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  I mean, I tip my hat to Chevrolet for, for creating something like that.
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  That costs, what were they new?
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  Like 120, 000.
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  Yeah.
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  That's the fastest Corvette, basically.
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  Yeah.
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  Production Corvette, because when you look at the old Lingenfelters and all those
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  specialty Callaways and all that stuff, they would do over 200 back in the 80s.
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  But they also had like 12 turbos and they were completely
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  gutted and everything else.
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  And they could do it once and then, you know, never again.
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  You have to take hours to cool down.
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  Yeah.
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  You needed a parachute and six miles to slow the thing down.
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  Cause it had, you know, 10 speed bicycle brakes and you couldn't go to the
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  dealership, buy the car and then go have a warranty with it and run this, this run.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's, that's awesome.
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  So, wow.
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  Wow.
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  Really cool.
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  So what else about Corvettes here?
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  You mentioned the C8.
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  Sticking with the Corvette, we're going to go with the C8 now.
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  And a little bit of news.
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  The C8 has its first recall.
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  Apparently they try to eat people.
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  Now it's not like, it's not like the Mustang's eating people at the
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  cars and coffee and stuff like that.
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  It's nothing like that.
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  The problem is with the frunk, you know, Chevy, this is their, their
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  first official foray in a, you know, in a mid engine Corvette.
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  So they've got a little bit of space up front and that's where people can
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  store their bag with their new balances and their gold chains and stuff.
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  Well, there's a recall because apparently.
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  When you turn the car off, the frunk release button doesn't activate.
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  Apparently the, the voltage to wake the car up.
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  Is too high and the button it won't activate so god forbid your
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  your new balance are stuck in the frunk You got your junk in the
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  frunk, yeah Junk in the front.
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  Apparently you can't get them out with the car turned off now Chevy is fixing
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  this with an over the air if if if you want Uh update to your system or you can
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  go to the dealership and have it fixed.
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  Basically.
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  They're lowering The, the voltage requirement to have the button active.
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  I've been waiting and then I Chevy recalls the C8 Corvette because people
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  can get trapped inside the front trunk.
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  Why are you inside the front trunk?
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  Because there's also another problem with the frunk.
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  They pop up at speed.
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  There's been a number of issues where the frunk, because they
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  can't figure out how to keep it latched, it will pop up at speed.
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  Now, luckily at the HOD event we were all just at, there was a C8 Corvette there.
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  I did not hear anything about him and his frunk popping up.
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  But, you know, and he was in my run group, so I didn't see that
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  happen, but That explains the blue painter's tape holding the front down.
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  I get it now.
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  It happens.
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  Wow, so it sounds like some backwards wiring there.
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  Won't stay closed when it's running and won't open when it's turned off.
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  That is, wow.
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  It seems like they just need to switch those two wires and you're good.
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  So, uh, we got another article here.
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  I think we want to dive into, and it recently crossed our desk.
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  Thanks to one of our other members, the 22 best GT cars and GT standing
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  for grand touring cars that road and track put out, uh, not too late
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  within this month of August here.
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  So do we want to go through that?
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  I mean, I scrolled through the carousel and there's only about four
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  or five cars I actually care about.
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  How about you guys?
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  I don't know what the criteria were for the best GT cars, like what is
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  the price point or anything because there are some cars on this list
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  that I would never be able to afford.
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  I can't even dream of how much it would cost to afford one of those cars.
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  And then there are some that are like, Oh, there's a Corvette on the list.
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  Yeah, okay, there's a Ford Mustang and then there's a McLaren.
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  Yeah, the oddest comparison was, yeah, there's the Mustang and then right
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  underneath it, the Ferrari 812 Superfast.
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  Yes, those two cars are really, really good to compare.
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  Well, I mean, as you go through this, here's where I was turned
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  off by the article, right?
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  So first car on the list, Ferrari 456, right?
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  Or 456 GT.
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  It's a GT car.
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  It's a two plus two.
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  There's certain requirements to be a GT car, right?
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  Extended body, two doors, et cetera.
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  And I think the 456 is an underappreciated car.
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  I like the look of it.
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  However, I'm a much bigger fan of the 550 Maranello.
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  It's a much prettier car, you know, but it's, it's based on the 456 or it's
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  an evolution of the 456, I should say.
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  But when you scroll to the next one in the carousel, it's the C8 Corvette.
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  When did a mid engine sports car become a grand tourer?
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  How did that classification change?
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  It makes absolutely no sense.
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  And then they flip back and it's like, Oh, well, here's the bangle version
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  of the M6, which it is a GT car.
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  And I don't necessarily mind it with the right wheel package and
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  body kit and things like that.
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  But as you scroll, as you guys said, you scroll through this list.
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  And it's like Bentley, Continental.
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  GT convertible and I'm like, well, first of all, You know, it seems
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  like a lot of these because the car has gt in the name Yeah, yeah, and
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  then and then then there's a sedan.
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  There's the rs7 What the hell I was like what I mean, so this list was a little
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  bit all over the map But some of the rest of these, yes, the Aston Martin
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  Vanquish, I'm like, the Rolls Royce Wraith, yeah, and the DBS Superleggera
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  and like all this other stuff on the list.
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  And I'm like, you know, the 928 quintessential GT
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  car, yes, checks the box.
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  Again, these are the cars I cared about, but they're also,
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  you know, 30 years old, right?
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  You start looking at the Jag and the Porsche and the Ferrari, and those
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  were true GT Boulevard cruisers.
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  But the 911?
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  Like, 9 11's never been a GT car.
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  But nowadays it is.
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  It's gotten bigger, it's gotten fatter.
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  I think people are considering the 9 11 the GT car, and the
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  Cayman is the sports car now.
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  But I gotta tip my hat to whoever the gray haired soul at Road Track that was writing
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  this article that put in the E Type Jag.
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  Because out of all the cars that are there, that's the best one.
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  Hands down, if I, and that's the oldest one of the bunch, uh, in this
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  group, I mean, granted, they had the hairdressers car in there, you know,
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  the BMW 850 and all that kind of stuff, but having the E type was the right
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  move on that list, but the rest of these modern ones, I think they could
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  have separated this into modern GT cars versus classic GT cars because they
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  just don't hold a candle to each other.
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  Okay, so real quick, then let's just go through 1, 2, 3, what
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  car on this list would you have?
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  I would go with the 928.
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  Tanya Mercedes sl, and I would take the lc.
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  500 Lexus.
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  Sounds like a plan.
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  Hey, at least we've picked something off the list.
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  So what's next?
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  Vehicles that are out the door for 2021.
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  So yeah, there's a few cars on here that I'm sure Tanya will
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  be saddened to see go away.
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  One of them being a carryover from last month's episode.
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  The Chevrolet Impala.
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  I know you're saddened to see that.
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  I mean, when you look at it, it is not a bad looking car
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  compared to previous versions.
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  But yes, Chevrolet GM has finally decided that it is out the door.
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  And along with it is the much loved Chevy Sonic.
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  You know, we're all gonna miss that car.
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  Sadder about that.
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  Along with that, you know, a staple in many a large family's garage or
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  driveway is the Dodge Grand Caravan.
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  The Caravan is out in favor of the Pacifica and the base model Voyager.
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  The Dodge Journey, which is actually a Fiat of some sort is also out the door.
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  It should have been gone three years ago if you really read about it.
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  But you know,
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  it's true, but you know, they decided to keep that going for a while
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  and that's okay now, sports car enthusiasts will be disappointed to
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  know that the two door Hondas are out.
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  They are following the trend of VW and there will be no more two door Hondas.
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  So the Civic Coupe and the Civic Si two door are gone along with anything else
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  that's got two doors from Honda, which isn't a whole lot of things, but your
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  only option there is the, you know, four door Civic and the other cars.
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  Along with that, the Honda Fit is out.
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  The Lexus GS, the Lincoln Continental, which I thought was actually
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  really disappointing because if you like a large Luxo boat, the
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  Continental was a very striking car.
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  I was really excited to see it come back a couple of years ago that they
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  brought back that moniker again, really impressive car, great proportions.
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  You know much better styling than the 300 and I'm a fan of the 300
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  and I just think that the Lincoln is a really good looking car.
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  I, I think they screwed up with the Continental that they
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  didn't give it suicide doors.
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  I think had they given it suicide doors it would still be around.
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  Possibly sold a lot more.
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  And I don't think they marketed it very well at the end of the day.
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  At the same time, you know, it was inevitable that the Lincoln
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  MKZ was out the door because as we know, the Mondeo has been retired.
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  Sorry, for those of us on this side of the ocean, the Ford Fusion
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  is gone and the Mark Z or the MKZ is built on that same platform.
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  And so it's no shock that the MKZ is out the door.
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  Now, the next one is one that.
• 19:11
  Mr.
• 19:12
  Khafeesi is going to be really saddened by this is true.
• 19:15
  The Mercedes SLC, SLK, the, the little kind of toad grasshopper Mercedes is gone.
• 19:20
  The, you know, the smallest convertible that I have, I can't say
• 19:25
  I'm going to miss the styling of it.
• 19:27
  It just, this last version is now what's interesting though, is that
• 19:31
  Mercedes is getting rid of this, but BMW just released the new Z4, right?
• 19:37
  Which is a direct competitor, right?
• 19:39
  Exactly.
• 19:39
  So maybe, maybe it'll be back.
• 19:42
  I don't know.
• 19:43
  Maybe they're just better off sticking to a slightly larger convertible.
• 19:46
  I've always felt that the SLK was a little too tight, but I agree.
• 19:52
  There's some others on the list.
• 19:54
  You know, the BMW, I ate the Alfa Romeo four C, which.
• 19:57
  You know, I've only seen three of those and they've only been at track events.
• 20:01
  You don't see them on the street.
• 20:03
  A couple of Acuras, you know, stuff like that.
• 20:05
  I think the only other one that I was kind of surprised to see go, and maybe it's
• 20:09
  because people are moving away from the subcompact market, is the Yaris or the
• 20:14
  Yaris, depending on how you pronounce it.
• 20:16
  I'm very disappointed because this means there is definitely no way that
• 20:21
  the GR Yaris make it across the shores.
• 20:28
  Looks cool.
• 20:29
  It does.
• 20:30
  And it also puts a very big question mark on next year's WRC series, which
• 20:35
  I'm the only follower of in this club.
• 20:37
  I think they are.
• 20:40
  Exactly.
• 20:41
  And so what are they going to campaign next year?
• 20:43
  The Corolla hatchback, because it's slightly larger, which that's probably it.
• 20:48
  But it gives way for Hyundai to run something bigger.
• 20:52
  It gives way for all the other manufacturers to run slightly
• 20:54
  larger cars because they had to stay within a certain size.
• 20:57
  And the Corolla is bigger than the Yaris.
• 21:00
  So it'll be interesting to see how that changes the WRC landscape next year.
• 21:04
  However, you'll probably still see the GRs or the Gazoo.
• 21:07
  Zoo racing Yares run in WRC two, where you still see the polos and a lot
• 21:13
  of the skoda's and the smaller cars or the older chassis cars are still
• 21:18
  running in that that subclass of WRC.
• 21:20
  So it'll be, it would be really cool to see what happens next year.
• 21:23
  So what are the chances that we can get a number of GTM members together?
• 21:27
  We go out, we all buy Toyota.
• 21:29
  Ours is, and we start our own little club series.
• 21:31
  Uh, zero.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:35
  You guys have no, no imagination B spec racing for everybody.
• 21:40
  I think this would be more like D or E spec racing you're talking about.
• 21:44
  If you had the GR 57 true, true, true.
• 21:49
  Pretty good.
• 21:50
  All the broken axles you can ask for.
• 21:52
  But I'll put it to you this way.
• 21:53
  I'm waiting for the Alpha GTA to come, right?
• 21:55
  Which we saw at Salem's last year, which is the golf sized Alfa Romeo, which is
• 22:01
  rear wheel drive with a two liter turbo.
• 22:03
  And there's been rumors that it was coming to the U.
• 22:05
  S.
• 22:06
  And still haven't seen it yet, because believe me, I would line up for that car.
• 22:10
  So you can keep your Honda Fits and your Yaris's and your Fiestas,
• 22:13
  because if that Alpha comes, that's going to be the hot ticket.
• 22:16
  It's going to be a GTI killer.
• 22:17
  See, see what had happened was Fiat had their money in their savings
• 22:21
  account, and they got to transfer the monies over to the check ins account
• 22:24
  so they can move the Alphas over here.
• 22:27
  Yeah, but there was in the Cayman Islands, thanks to gm, so, you know, I
• 22:30
  know . But you know, it was funny that that article dropped about cars that
• 22:35
  are out for 2021 because WTOP, which is a local news station here in the,
• 22:39
  in the DMV, posted an article about a week later talking about the best
• 22:45
  cars for teens to pick up in 2020.
• 22:48
  And so, as I was, I was scrolling through this list.
• 22:51
  Cars like the Honda Fit and the Yaris are, are on this list.
• 22:54
  And I'm like.
• 22:55
  Yeah, but they're out the door, but it got me thinking when I was driving at
• 22:59
  16 years old, I was driving a 10 year old car and that seemed to be the thing.
• 23:04
  You bought something that was a decade old, 12 years old, maybe on the new
• 23:08
  side, eight years old, but I wasn't running out to the dealership and
• 23:11
  buying a brand new Corolla or a Honda.
• 23:14
  Or any of the cars that are on this list and they're all econo boxes,
• 23:17
  you know, except for, you know, let's say the exception of the Ford escape
• 23:21
  and the Kia Optima and some of these larger cars that are on this list.
• 23:25
  I don't know.
• 23:26
  I mean, I think about it with respect to my eldest daughter
• 23:29
  who, you know, she'll be 16.
• 23:31
  In 10 years.
• 23:32
  So the cars that are coming out now would be the cars that she
• 23:35
  might be driving at 10 years old.
• 23:37
  I don't know that I want to put her in any of these and any of the ones that are on
• 23:40
  this list, to be honest with you, because the price tag for a lot of these is, you
• 23:45
  know, best new SUV for teens at 35, 000.
• 23:49
  Nissan Rogue.
• 23:51
  I'm like, really?
• 23:51
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead and say it right now and people
• 23:54
  can flame me all they want.
• 23:56
  If you spend more than five grand on a car for your 16 year
• 23:59
  old kid, You're doing it wrong.
• 24:01
  You're doing it wrong.
• 24:02
  No, no, no, no.
• 24:02
  You're, you're, you're an effing idiot.
• 24:04
  I don't care what you say.
• 24:05
  You've lost all credibility to me.
• 24:08
  Yeah, I just can't see.
• 24:09
  I mean, I get it because you get the door to door warranty and all that
• 24:12
  kind of stuff or bumper to bumper warranty and all that kind of stuff.
• 24:15
  But I don't know.
• 24:16
  I wouldn't pick any of the cars on this list for my 16 year old right now.
• 24:20
  Looking back 10 years, let's just talk about that.
• 24:23
  Is there a car that you guys would pick as a recommendation for a
• 24:26
  16 year old starting out now?
• 24:27
  Kind of thinking about a car from 2010 that would be in that 000 range.
• 24:32
  Is there something that just pops out volkswagen rabbit or any volkswagen jetta?
• 24:38
  Honda, right?
• 24:39
  Yeah.
• 24:40
  I mean, there's a lot of options there that you could save a lot of money and
• 24:45
  those cars are still kicking strong.
• 24:46
  I mean, to your point, Brad, a mark five rabbit with a two
• 24:49
  and a half liter five cylinder.
• 24:51
  Those motors are bulletproof.
• 24:52
  They run forever.
• 24:54
  And, you know, simple to work on to compare to, to the, yeah, they're, they're
• 24:59
  German and they've got some, some little eccentricities to them, but they're
• 25:04
  still pretty damn simple to work on.
• 25:06
  The 2.
• 25:07
  5 liters been around forever.
• 25:08
  The five cylinder, yeah.
• 25:09
  Exactly.
• 25:10
  And any of the old Hondas and even, I mean, let's face it, you could buy your
• 25:14
  kid an HHR, it would still be probably a better investment than a brand new
• 25:19
  Nissan Rogue or a Kia Optima, you know what I mean, at the end of the day,
• 25:23
  as much as I regret saying that you heard the words come out of my mouth,
• 25:26
  but, but you know what the people of today are doing, they're going out
• 25:31
  and they're buying their children.
• 25:32
  Those 65, 000 Bugatti electric cars.
• 25:36
  That's what they're doing.
• 25:37
  I forgot about that.
• 25:38
  You're right.
• 25:39
  They've already, they have a ton of practice.
• 25:42
  So realistically the Kia is a down step.
• 25:45
  It's a much cheaper vehicle than the all electric Bugatti that
• 25:48
  they've been driving around it.
• 25:49
  All right.
• 25:51
  All sarcasm aside, let's jump into our new section.
• 25:55
  We call.
• 25:56
  Jolt Cola
• 26:03
  Where we cover electric car news.
• 26:07
  Electric car and maybe electric adjacent, depending how you look at it.
• 26:12
  So the first one up here is a follow on article to the Sony Vision S.
• 26:18
  It's actually an original debut of this back in the beginning of the year, in
• 26:22
  January, and then there's been more developments recently on what this is.
• 26:26
  Prototype vehicle from, yes, Sony, as in, you know, Sony Electronics,
• 26:33
  creating an EV for the modern day.
• 26:36
  So, the Vision S According to the Car and Driver article,
• 26:39
  it's equipped with 33 sensors.
• 26:42
  It's got LiDAR, radar, cameras, you name it.
• 26:45
  It's got a 360 degree immersive audio system.
• 26:50
  It's got a panoramic screen that stretches across the entire dashboard.
• 26:54
  There's no mention of a PS5.
• 26:56
  It's going to be installed in it, but, but granted the PS5 isn't out yet.
• 27:00
  So there's still time.
• 27:01
  Right.
• 27:01
  So, I mean, really what's the deal here.
• 27:03
  This came out as a surprise, basically unveiling at the consumer electronics
• 27:08
  show and people thought they were, I think, going to go see news about
• 27:13
  a PlayStation five and instead they unveiled this vision as vehicle.
• 27:17
  So in terms of specs, it's on an all wheel drive platform, which
• 27:21
  isn't surprising because apparently there is some collaboration with.
• 27:25
  The Austrian Company, Magna Steyr, who back in the day created the
• 27:31
  four wheel drive system on the Mercedes G Class and whatnot.
• 27:34
  The car alleges a top speed of 149 miles an hour, a 0 60 in 4.
• 27:39
  8 seconds.
• 27:40
  It weighs a honking 5, 180 pounds.
• 27:45
  I'm, I'm guessing those sensors are really heavy, along with that 360 sound system.
• 27:52
  At the end of the day, it's really unclear.
• 27:54
  Nobody's sure why Sony is doing this.
• 27:56
  Uh, I would suspect, personally, that it's more about the technology and what they
• 28:01
  can bring to cars versus the car itself.
• 28:04
  They're just, the car is the platform to display all their fancy gadgetry in it.
• 28:08
  It's not an unattractive vehicle, but it's very similar looking to a Tesla.
• 28:13
  So I'm going to throw in my two cents here.
• 28:15
  If we have any it people listening, this is equivalent to the Sony VIO laptops
• 28:21
  of the early two thousands, right?
• 28:23
  They brought nothing to the market other than some flash and
• 28:27
  panache and Sony specific things.
• 28:30
  But otherwise it was just a Toshiba laptop, like anything else.
• 28:33
  And I think that's exactly the point that you're making here.
• 28:36
  There's these Sony electronic proprietary things that they
• 28:39
  want to bring to the show.
• 28:41
  And it might be a rebadged car from somebody else because I don't think Sony's
• 28:44
  got the tooling to create a car, right?
• 28:48
  It just, that's why they were, that's why they've been.
• 28:51
  It seems with some people that actually know how to build cars.
• 28:55
  Yeah for that development for the chassis work, etc So i'm thinking
• 29:00
  this car is not I mean, I know it was displayed At the consumer electronics
• 29:05
  show, but maybe it's not directed at us.
• 29:07
  Maybe it's directed at other auto manufacturers I just
• 29:11
  changed the stereo in my truck.
• 29:13
  It's a Panasonic.
• 29:14
  Maybe they're trying to steal some of that business and sell to the manufacturers.
• 29:18
  Look at all these cool things that we can put into your car.
• 29:21
  I just want to know if I can buy a Sony Vision S at Best Buy.
• 29:24
  Because it's the only place I can figure out is where I would be able to get one.
• 29:28
  How many reward zone points do I get when I buy it?
• 29:33
  You'll be able to buy a PS five for free.
• 29:36
  You better.
• 29:38
  Yeah.
• 29:38
  You better believe it.
• 29:39
  That's like the demon package, right?
• 29:40
  For an extra dollar, you get a PS five in the trunk.
• 29:46
  It clip with project cars three.
• 29:48
  All right, Tanya, what else you got on the list?
• 29:50
  So the next one is maybe.
• 29:52
  Electric adjacent.
• 29:54
  I mean, not really because it's it's a hydrogen vehicle and hydrogen is
• 29:57
  used to power an electric motor.
• 29:58
  So it's still.
• 29:59
  Hydrogen fuel cell powered cars are still considered EVs.
• 30:03
  This article again comes from Car and Driver and it's about the
• 30:06
  Hyperion XP 1, which is a 221 mile an hour hydrogen powered hyper car.
• 30:13
  So just as a little background here for folks who have not heard of Hyperion,
• 30:17
  this is straight from their website.
• 30:18
  They were founded in 2011 by an expert team of PhDs.
• 30:22
  Hyperion is a technology company that consists of three divisions,
• 30:25
  Hyperion Energy, Hyperion Motors, and Hyperion Aerospace.
• 30:29
  All focused on hydrogen based power and delivery.
• 30:33
  They're based in Orange, California.
• 30:35
  Hyperion delivers cutting edge space technology, pioneered
• 30:38
  by NASA, to the world.
• 30:39
  From road vehicles to space travel, Hyperion seeks to completely
• 30:42
  revolutionize the transportation industry by offering convenient,
• 30:46
  high quality, low cost solutions.
• 30:48
  Hydrogen fuel across America.
• 30:50
  And as a quote from the CEO, there are enough car companies or an energy company
• 30:55
  that's building this car to tell a story.
• 30:57
  So again, it's, it's a little bit less about the actual car, just
• 31:01
  super futuristic looking and, you know, hypercar looking, but it's
• 31:04
  more about the power plant, the fuel cell technology using the hydrogen.
• 31:09
  So what it's all about, they're claiming zero to 60 in 2.
• 31:14
  2 seconds.
• 31:15
  a top speed of 221 miles an hour with a range of Just over 1, 000 miles,
• 31:22
  granted, I'm sure that's not at 221 miles an hour, but nonetheless, it's
• 31:27
  also a carbon titanium monocoque chassis and unlike the Vision S, the
• 31:32
  curb weight is around 2, 200 pounds.
• 31:35
  It's very lightweight.
• 31:37
  Further on with the spec, so it's not out yet.
• 31:40
  So they've got their, their prototype here, but it's slated
• 31:44
  to go into production in 2022.
• 31:47
  So it's still two years out.
• 31:48
  It's going to be very limited run, apparently only 300 cars.
• 31:51
  Um, it will be an all wheel drive setup and we'll have a three speed
• 31:56
  transmission with ultra capacitors to buffer the output of the fuel cell.
• 32:01
  The body also includes active aero elements that double as solar panels.
• 32:05
  The double barrel exhaust stacks are functional, but all that comes
• 32:09
  out is deionized water vapor.
• 32:11
  So that is straight from the car and driver article.
• 32:14
  Does it play engine sounds in the interior like the BMWs?
• 32:18
  There was no mention of that.
• 32:20
  I thought the Hyperion was the shuttle that they used, the
• 32:24
  big space station in Andromeda.
• 32:26
  I thought that was Yeah, I think so.
• 32:28
  That was the Hyperion.
• 32:29
  But my other question is, how big is the Frunk and does it
• 32:33
  stay closed at 200 miles an hour?
• 32:35
  They did not mention
• 32:45
  it.
• 32:45
  You say hydrogen, usually people just go with Hindenburg.
• 32:51
  So now because of this disaster, everyone thinks hydrogen is going to be
• 32:54
  a gigantic death Trap, and there's tons of conspiracy theories, I guess, around
• 32:59
  questioning of what really happened.
• 33:01
  Was it sabotage?
• 33:02
  Was it Hitler ordered it to be, you know, exploded, etc, etc.
• 33:07
  Or did just something go wrong, right?
• 33:09
  And a spark ensued and the hydrogen exploded, or, you know, caught on fire.
• 33:13
  As it will, because it's very flammable.
• 33:15
  So, Hyperion, obviously, they have to address this, because it's going
• 33:19
  to be a big concern to people.
• 33:21
  I'm driving around Hindenburg, right?
• 33:23
  And they said, quote, You can throw our tanks off a building or shoot
• 33:27
  them with a high powered rifle.
• 33:28
  They won't rupture.
• 33:29
  They're seemingly with their PhDs and their NASA friends are spending
• 33:33
  a lot of time trying to develop the fuel tank to be safe and what it is
• 33:37
  apparently is carbon fiber construction.
• 33:40
  So I would guess that they're probably pretty thick tanks and carbon fiber.
• 33:43
  Anything generally isn't.
• 33:45
  necessarily cost effective, so that's definitely one thing they still need
• 33:49
  to tackle is how do we make, you know, that strength, but also cost effective
• 33:54
  for mass production into into vehicles.
• 33:56
  I think that they can crack that nut and get the affordability down.
• 34:00
  They've got something interesting.
• 34:01
  So, you know, someone might say, still be stuck on.
• 34:09
  I mean, I could see the rebuttal to that because it's, it's the challenger effect
• 34:12
  and I'm not talking about the dodge.
• 34:13
  I'm talking about the space shuttle where, you know, it
• 34:16
  wasn't this that or the other.
• 34:18
  It was an O ring.
• 34:19
  It was a coupler.
• 34:20
  It was whatever.
• 34:20
  It's something else in the system.
• 34:23
  That then causes a cascading failure, right?
• 34:25
  And so I think hydrogen being so volatile, and it does have a stigma.
• 34:29
  Unfortunately, thanks to thanks to the Hindenburg, much like diesel has a stigma.
• 34:33
  Rotaries have a stigma.
• 34:34
  Every engine type has its own problem.
• 34:37
  And, you know, ICEs or internal combustion engines have been have outlasted the rest
• 34:42
  of them, because at the end of the day.
• 34:44
  Even that is a controlled explosion, but it's the safest
• 34:48
  of its alternatives, right?
• 34:49
  So I'm a little bit apprehensive of hydrogen as well.
• 34:52
  And I think maybe a lot of our listeners would probably be disappointed because,
• 34:57
  you know, if something did come out, it's kind of like the early adopters
• 35:00
  of Tesla's are all electric vehicles.
• 35:02
  It's like, well, where am I going to get the fuel?
• 35:04
  You know, how does that work?
• 35:06
  What's the distribution network?
• 35:08
  Well, I'll address two things there.
• 35:10
  First, the volatile comment.
• 35:11
  is somewhat misleading because it's volatile in so much that oxygen is
• 35:16
  present, and a f ignition source.
• 35:19
  So, again, I mean, you can have as much hydrogen sitting open here,
• 35:23
  and as long as nobody lights a match, nothing's gonna happen.
• 35:27
  Granted, electrostatic issues could cause It's, you know, maybe it's a
• 35:33
  catch on fire, that's actually one thing that they think happened with
• 35:36
  the Hindenburg, there might have been some electrostatic stuff going on.
• 35:40
  They did, like, they did have a leak, but then electrostatic.
• 35:44
  Cause the spark and then everything caught on fire, but I mean, I think
• 35:48
  if they can get, if they can seal the hydrogen off, if the system sealed
• 35:51
  off well, I mean, there's risk.
• 35:54
  I think the risk can probably be mitigated.
• 35:56
  I mean, it's no different than anything else necessarily catching on fire.
• 36:00
  But the thing is, this isn't the first hydrogen vehicle.
• 36:04
  No, I mean, Honda, Honda.
• 36:06
  I'm looking at it right now.
• 36:07
  Honda offers.
• 36:08
  Yeah, Honda has the clarity.
• 36:10
  It's a hydrogen powered car.
• 36:12
  Chevrolet back in with the early 90s came out with a hydrogen fuel cell.
• 36:16
  BMW had a prototype.
• 36:17
  I mean, there's been a several attempts at this before.
• 36:20
  I mean, the Toyota has one right now.
• 36:22
  I think part of their, I don't think they're displaying the
• 36:24
  range that this is displaying.
• 36:26
  So I think this is actually a huge significant improvement to the
• 36:30
  technology and they're trying to make improvements to the safety to make
• 36:33
  people, you know, feel more secure.
• 36:36
  Additionally, to address the other point you brought up around fueling,
• 36:40
  this company is also trying to set up a network of hydrogen fueling stations.
• 36:44
  And what they're saying is given the range, you need far less.
• 36:49
  hydrogen fueling stations because you're going to be go you're
• 36:51
  going to get to go farther.
• 36:52
  Yeah, so I got to drive to Rhode Atlanta to get to Dakota.
• 36:57
  So that's how I'm going to get fuel, right?
• 36:58
  I mean, that doesn't make sense.
• 36:59
  That's not a good way to do it because that's not the paths that people travel.
• 37:03
  And now you're forcing traffic to go a specific way because the only way
• 37:07
  you can get your fuel source from.
• 37:09
  I can't fill up at home.
• 37:10
  I can't fill up outside of sheets.
• 37:12
  I, you know, that that's kind of a weird way to do it.
• 37:14
  And I, I don't know, I don't, I don't buy that.
• 37:16
  I mean, same things with electric cars and where you plug it in.
• 37:23
  Yeah.
• 37:23
  At any rate, I think I'm interested to see where they develop the technology.
• 37:27
  Sure.
• 37:28
  I find it interesting.
• 37:29
  It's much more environmentally friendly in terms of emissions
• 37:33
  than your standard ice engine.
• 37:34
  There's arguments to be had around, well, how are you making the hydrogen?
• 37:38
  It'll be interesting to see what they come up with if they're actually able
• 37:40
  to produce those 300 cars in two years.
• 37:42
  So what's next Tanya?
• 37:44
  So the next one on the list is the.
• 37:47
  Cadillac unveiling of their new electric SUV, supposed to be their
• 37:53
  flagship, I think, electric SUV model.
• 37:56
  And it is called The Escalade.
• 37:58
  It is called the Lyric.
• 38:02
  Now there's some debate around the pronunciation of it.
• 38:05
  Lyric.
• 38:07
  It's spelled L Y R I Q.
• 38:10
  So, you know people are going to be confused on how to pronounce it when
• 38:14
  you try to Wikipedia it and they don't give you any pronunciation for it.
• 38:17
  I was further confused when I saw Cadillac was actually
• 38:21
  showing it all capital letters.
• 38:24
  Then I was wondering what it could possibly stand for.
• 38:27
  I didn't come up with anything good.
• 38:29
  So I, I was trying harder to peruse the, the origins of this name.
• 38:33
  So I did find on GM authority website, um, they have a old blog there and
• 38:40
  they were explaining the origin.
• 38:42
  So apparently the IQ is going to be the new suffix, basically, I
• 38:47
  think for all their electric cars.
• 38:49
  What it says is, additionally, the IQ suffix names provide a sort of.
• 38:54
  alteration of sorts for Cadillac brand cars.
• 38:58
  With Cadillac and the model name both ending in an ick sound, these
• 39:03
  names roll off the tongue quite well.
• 39:06
  I didn't realize it was a Cadillac.
• 39:09
  It's a Cadillac, but.
• 39:13
  So is the next one going to be called the brick?
• 39:15
  B R I Q.
• 39:17
  And then there's the stick.
• 39:18
  The trick.
• 39:20
  The flick.
• 39:21
  The lick.
• 39:22
  We asked about the escal Escaladic.
• 39:27
  Um, this is terrible.
• 39:29
  What are they thinking?
• 39:30
  Apparently there's a celestic.
• 39:32
  I didn't know that.
• 39:33
  Is that made by, is that made by Stellantis?
• 39:36
  I don't know, but feel better that it's, it's two years out.
• 39:40
  So maybe, maybe they'll go with the whole naming convention change.
• 39:45
  They've got plenty of time to make it worse now.
• 39:47
  Yes.
• 39:49
  Either way, it's 50 50 right now.
• 39:52
  But that brings up a good point.
• 39:53
  Have you seen the back of this thing?
• 39:55
  From the side, it reminded me of a smushed Range Rover.
• 40:00
  And from the back, it looks like a car I saw in the junkyard.
• 40:03
  Like, it was rear ended by a semi.
• 40:07
  Like, what were they thinking?
• 40:09
  The front looks like all the other Cadillacs that are out there right now.
• 40:12
  They all share the same nose.
• 40:14
  But it's like, do the engineers run out of pencils?
• 40:17
  Like, can I buy you all, like, refillable mechanical pencils so
• 40:21
  you can finish the back of the car?
• 40:23
  Like, what is going on these days?
• 40:26
  So according to advertisers, Cadillac, it's designed to energize your senses.
• 40:33
  Yeah, it makes me angry.
• 40:37
  With the introduction of Cadillac's new design language, the Lyric, Showcar brings
• 40:43
  the sensual and the technical together.
• 40:47
  It's the Vibric.
• 40:48
  Decisive graphic elements contrast against fluid form.
• 40:53
  The full glass two tone roof subtly slopes creating a fast profile
• 40:58
  while choreographed lighting and iridescent colors engage the senses.
• 41:03
  This is effortless design with a magnetic draw.
• 41:07
  I think I threw up in the back of my throat a little bit.
• 41:10
  I mean, that is the, this is like mad men level of advertising here.
• 41:14
  Because any sensical human that looks at that design goes, that
• 41:18
  car has no space in the trunk.
• 41:21
  I, I don't know.
• 41:23
  I'm curious to see it in person.
• 41:24
  Maybe it's like the Mach E.
• 41:26
  and some of these other new cars where they look better in person,
• 41:29
  but the photos do not do that.
• 41:31
  Lyric, and I'm going to stick with that as the pronunciation, it
• 41:34
  doesn't do it any justice whatsoever.
• 41:37
  Maybe it doesn't need a large back side because it has a frunk.
• 41:42
  Oh, that makes sense.
• 41:44
  All right.
• 41:45
  There really wasn't much other.
• 41:46
  It does have 19 speakers in it and active noise cancellation and 23 inch wheels.
• 41:52
  Are they Sony speakers?
• 41:54
  I don't know, but maybe.
• 41:55
  And if you got rid of the 23 inch wheels, it would look like a Volvo V70 or V90.
• 42:01
  It would be a regular wagon.
• 42:03
  Come on now.
• 42:03
  It's six inches taller because of the stupid wheels.
• 42:07
  Yeah, it's true.
• 42:08
  Ground clearance by way of diameter.
• 42:11
  All right.
• 42:11
  So what else?
• 42:12
  Oh, goodness.
• 42:14
  There was an article about the revolutionary Tesla windshield.
• 42:18
  That's going to, I guess, possibly debut on the cyber truck.
• 42:21
  So revolutionary is usually cool till it breaks in my opinion.
• 42:27
  And there's just something about.
• 42:29
  Tried and true, simple technology that just functions when you need it.
• 42:34
  I mean, I see this and then I painfully remember these heinous
• 42:40
  telecom phones that we use in some of our conference rooms at work.
• 42:44
  And they're modern and they're fancy and they have a touch
• 42:46
  keypad that's completely flat.
• 42:48
  Ooh, they look so nice.
• 42:50
  And guess what?
• 42:51
  It's a gigantic piece of crack that doesn't work, alright?
• 42:54
  Like, you gotta press the button, the button in quotes, like, super hard
• 42:59
  and in the exact right spot, and then it still doesn't register that you're
• 43:02
  pushing the button, so then you're just pounding on the darn thing.
• 43:06
  You know what, what hardly ever fails?
• 43:09
  A friggin raised button on the telephone.
• 43:12
  Okay, those things have lasted through the decades, okay?
• 43:16
  There's something to be said for certain technology.
• 43:18
  I don't, I don't know that it was a technology that needed to be reinvented.
• 43:23
  It was, it's literally like reinventing the wheel.
• 43:25
  So I read this article too, and God bless the guy that wrote it, and
• 43:29
  he threw the whole schematic with the patent and everything in there.
• 43:33
  It was very well written and I understood and when I got to the bottom and I
• 43:37
  really stepped back and I looked at it, if anyone has ever watched the videos
• 43:41
  on YouTube about how the inside of an Etch A Sketch works, it is identical.
• 43:47
  It uses a similar weird pulley axial system to move these blades around and the
• 43:53
  reason it makes sense on the Cybertruck is because the glass is completely flat.
• 43:57
  So you're trying to wipe A non curved surface.
• 44:01
  So it's like trying to wipe down a blackboard, right?
• 44:03
  Or an Etch A Sketch screen.
• 44:05
  It's the same idea.
• 44:06
  So, again, to your point, simplicity, a regular wiper system because of the
• 44:10
  springs and everything else and the way that the wipers are now squeegees,
• 44:14
  it would work on a Cybertruck.
• 44:15
  They do not need to reinvent the wiper blades.
• 44:18
  I'm concerned and I haven't used very many single bladed vehicles before.
• 44:24
  I know they exist, but Mercedes.
• 44:26
  The article talked about it being a single wiper.
• 44:29
  So you have a single wiper just moving across the windscreen.
• 44:32
  If this thing isn't moving fast enough, I mean, on a regular car, with two wipers.
• 44:38
  You're partially blinded by water because when it's on the down wipe,
• 44:43
  you suddenly have several seconds of rain flooding your windshield.
• 44:46
  Now, if this arm is over doing its thing on the other side of the car
• 44:48
  and the passenger's Six feet away.
• 44:50
  Like, I'm super blind.
• 44:52
  Like, a really large portion of the windshield.
• 44:55
  I mean, maybe it's the same as regular two wiper blades?
• 44:59
  I don't know.
• 45:00
  Maybe with autopilot, you don't need to worry about it because the GPS is going to
• 45:04
  drive you where you need to go, regardless of the weather conditions, right?
• 45:07
  I have to say, I'm kind of disappointed.
• 45:09
  I was expecting more from Tesla.
• 45:11
  Have you ever seen Demolition Man?
• 45:14
  Mm hmm.
• 45:14
  And you've seen the part where that little Spray can pops up out of the
• 45:18
  dirt and sprays the the graffiti on the sign And then like another one comes up
• 45:24
  and sprays a laser and gets rid of it I think tesla needs to use that technology
• 45:29
  so it zaps the rain away with these little lasers and shit I think that's
• 45:32
  what I would be expecting from tesla.
• 45:34
  I hate to say if you leave it up to tesla I think we'll all be
• 45:36
  wiping our butts with seashells.
• 45:38
  But you know, let's leave that where it is Since we're talking about
• 45:41
  demolition, man, it doesn't really matter because people are going to
• 45:43
  throw rocks at your cyber truck and all the windows are going to break because
• 45:47
  they're not made of bulletproof glass.
• 45:49
  True.
• 45:49
  And there's a video out there I recently watched about how strong old car glass is.
• 45:54
  I saw it too with Volkswagen.
• 45:56
  Yeah.
• 45:56
  And guys are throwing high speed baseballs at the glass
• 45:59
  repeatedly and it will not break.
• 46:01
  He essentially had to take a sledgehammer.
• 46:03
  To, to hit it, and you had to hit it hard, too, because it kept bouncing off.
• 46:07
  Yeah, and that was a car from 20 years ago.
• 46:08
  To that, uh, second reason that this could possibly only ever work, because first, it
• 46:13
  needs the flat windshield, which history has told auto manufacturers that doesn't
• 46:18
  work because insects can break the glass at high speed because it's more fragile.
• 46:23
  So, the Cybertruck's got the flat windscreen, allegedly, but it also has the
• 46:29
  Tesla armor glass that is indestructible.
• 46:33
  So maybe it requires those two things to work.
• 46:36
  Is that like the armor glass that I put on my cell phone that
• 46:39
  after I drop my cell phone on the ground, it still breaks anyway?
• 46:42
  I, you know, it's that same armor glass.
• 46:44
  So when he threw the ball at the cyber truck on display, the glass shattered.
• 46:49
  I've got a great idea for Tesla.
• 46:51
  Use a normal windscreen.
• 46:53
  It works.
• 46:54
  Companies have been doing it for you forever.
• 46:56
  Well, the reason they're doing this.
• 46:58
  is to reduce draw that the wiper motor would pull on the batteries.
• 47:03
  They're reducing draw, they're reducing customer draw.
• 47:07
  Yeah, that, that Cybertruck is a discussion for another day.
• 47:10
  But since we're talking about Teslas and wiper blades, just as an aside, you
• 47:15
  know, to make matters worse, if the new Cybertruck's Etch a Sketch wiper blades
• 47:19
  require you to use the tablet dashboard to activate them like a gentleman in
• 47:24
  Germany did in his Tesla 3, you may.
• 47:28
  with a citation, or if you live in Germany, you could get a one month
• 47:33
  suspension after crashing your vehicle because you were tapping
• 47:38
  on your screen repeatedly as to get your wiper blades working.
• 47:41
  So yeah, again, what's wrong with the lever on the stock on the steering column?
• 47:47
  I don't know.
• 47:48
  I call BS.
• 47:49
  I think that guy was playing Fruit Ninja.
• 47:51
  And that's why he got in trouble.
• 47:55
  Anyway, so electric cars.
• 47:57
  Sometimes they get them right, sometimes they don't.
• 48:00
  But I think we got one here that actually defies expectations.
• 48:04
  If only it ever were to come true, which it is not going to.
• 48:07
  So there was a grassroots.
• 48:11
  This is a Motorsport article about an electric Trabant.
• 48:15
  So for the listeners that don't know what a Trabant is, it is a
• 48:20
  very old, very square, very square East German car that actually I
• 48:27
  guess was in production until 1990.
• 48:29
  Yeah.
• 48:30
  Apparently, so from 1957 to 1990.
• 48:32
  The flagship of the Soviet Union.
• 48:35
  It was an amazing little vehicle.
• 48:37
  It was, you know, the simplicity vehicle.
• 48:40
  It was, it was, interestingly, I learned a fun fact, made of plastic.
• 48:46
  I did not know that.
• 48:47
  So, Duraplast, composite thermosetting plastic.
• 48:51
  Similar to Formica.
• 48:52
  Okay, it's a kitchen counter with wheels.
• 48:54
  Sounds cool.
• 48:55
  It looked like a kitchen counter with wheels.
• 48:59
  Uh, I mean, yes.
• 49:00
  The body lines are very simple.
• 49:02
  I thought it was also interesting that pretty much, I guess, close to 1990, 1989,
• 49:08
  they got the rights to use a Volkswagen engine in them, so that was, I guess,
• 49:13
  sadly short lived for about a year.
• 49:15
  But anyway, somebody And this actually was already probably about 10 years
• 49:20
  ago, tried to revive the Travanc.
• 49:24
  Some investors wanted to bring it back into modern days, so kind of a retro redo.
• 49:29
  And then I mean, it has that pedigree and that desire and that passion that only.
• 49:35
  A true enthusiast could enjoy and if you have racing heritage Oh, yeah, and if you
• 49:40
  had 50 extra rubles, you would upgrade to a Lada, you know a copy of a fiat 128
• 49:46
  But anyway continue I mean Nonetheless,
• 50:00
  so I think in 2012 the investors then tried to come up with this trabant
• 50:05
  NT version which allegedly I guess would have had a little battery inside
• 50:09
  of it to give it 100 miles of range.
• 50:11
  I'm not sure where you were going with your little Trabant, but nonetheless,
• 50:14
  they didn't get the backing for this.
• 50:16
  So, you know, that was already a while ago.
• 50:18
  So it was kind of reposted as a, Oh, Hey, what would you think about
• 50:21
  this in today's burgeoning EV world?
• 50:25
  Is there a home for an electric Trabant or not?
• 50:29
  So I read the article and I looked at the renderings.
• 50:31
  I like it.
• 50:32
  And to your point before you kind of, you're on the same wave link
• 50:36
  that I'm on, which is, it looks like a sedan version of a mini, and
• 50:41
  it wasn't a hateful looking car.
• 50:43
  I could see the throwbacks to the reon, although, I mean, anything is better.
• 50:47
  Any design is better than the original trant.
• 50:50
  So you, your leaps and bounds ahead of that.
• 50:52
  But it wasn't an unattractive car and I could see its relevance in the world.
• 50:56
  It's just a matter of getting it out.
• 50:59
  Getting it out there.
• 50:59
  Right?
• 51:00
  I mean, the design fits in this.
• 51:03
  Cutesy Ev Futurey design that a lot of people are coming up with.
• 51:09
  I mean, it's right up there with the Gary Busey and all the ones we
• 51:11
  talked about on the last episode.
• 51:13
  Right, exactly.
• 51:14
  So I mean, it could have a home next to your eBuy.
• 51:17
  A hundred percent.
• 51:18
  Maybe you could even, like, drive it up into the back of the
• 51:21
  flatbed version of the eBus y.
• 51:23
  Nice.
• 51:24
  So you're Tramont with your eBus y.
• 51:25
  Perfect.
• 51:26
  Not bad, though.
• 51:26
  Not bad, though.
• 51:27
  And it'd probably be cheap.
• 51:28
  Probably still made of plastic, though.
• 51:30
  But now I think it's time to make some donuts.
• 51:33
  It's time to go behind the pit wall and talk about some motorsport news.
• 51:38
  So in local news for the listeners out there, we have 20 events left on
• 51:43
  the CHIN schedule for 2020 and a big shout out to Mark Hicks for coming
• 51:47
  on Break Fix earlier this month.
• 51:49
  If you haven't listened to that episode, we get behind the scenes with Mark
• 51:52
  and talk about the origin of CHIN and everything that goes along with
• 51:56
  that so you can get more familiar and better acquainted with their program
• 51:59
  and the peculiarities of what they do.
• 52:02
  Meanwhile, Hooked on Driving Northeast still has three
• 52:05
  events left on their schedule.
• 52:07
  NJMP Lightning in September, a newly added VIR date in the middle of October,
• 52:13
  which happens to be a week before their fall finale at Watkins Glen,
• 52:17
  which is closer to the end of October.
• 52:19
  A reminder to all the folks in DMV and surrounding states, Always check
• 52:25
  the latest COVID and health updates because many states are still not
• 52:30
  able to travel to New York I know there's rules about oh, well if you're
• 52:34
  going to be there for a week or two or whatever But places like Watkins
• 52:38
  Glen are still turning away drivers because they are checking licenses.
• 52:42
  And if you are from one of the states that is basically on the no
• 52:45
  fly list, you will be turned away.
• 52:47
  So don't waste your time.
• 52:49
  Do your research ahead of time before going out to places like Watkins Glen,
• 52:53
  Lime Rock and JMP, et cetera, to make sure it's okay for you to go there.
• 52:57
  Meanwhile, SCCA still has a couple of events left basically around summit point.
• 53:02
  Uh, at Shenandoah, as well as over at Dominion down in Fredericksburg,
• 53:07
  and the Audi club has their fall finale at VIR in November.
• 53:11
  I'm sure there's other groups out there, you know, track days
• 53:14
  and, and Porsche club, etc.
• 53:16
  We don't dive into everybody's schedules, so be sure to check
• 53:18
  Motorsport Reg for all the dates and locations as those are changing as
• 53:23
  we get here closer into the fall.
• 53:25
  And then obviously everybody, you know, stay safe, wear
• 53:27
  your mask, social distance.
• 53:29
  All that kind of stuff that is being enforced at the track.
• 53:32
  So don't forget your mask when you're out there, things of that nature on the
• 53:35
  brighter side, things we get to look forward to in 2021 and beyond officials
• 53:40
  are now promoting a new track and it's actually not going to be that far away.
• 53:45
  We're talking about seven hours, maybe less depending on how
• 53:48
  fast you tow from the DC area.
• 53:51
  It's going to be in Oak Ridge, Tennessee.
• 53:53
  Many of you probably don't know about Oak Ridge unless you're
• 53:55
  familiar with Oak Ridge Labs nestled between Chattanooga and Knoxville.
• 54:00
  Basically, they're on the eastern edge of Tennessee, and the track is
• 54:04
  going to be built on a 330 acre plot housing a five mile racing circuit.
• 54:11
  With 20 turns, I've looked at the maps and we're going to post a
• 54:15
  link to it so you can check it out.
• 54:17
  The course layout looks really cool and I'm super excited
• 54:21
  that they're going to do this.
• 54:22
  Apparently they have all the approvals.
• 54:24
  The land that it's being built on has basically been
• 54:26
  abandoned for about 25 years.
• 54:29
  Nobody wants to develop there.
• 54:30
  Nobody wants to do anything in that surrounding area.
• 54:32
  So they've gotten permission to build a racetrack and I hope we
• 54:36
  get to go there when it opens.
• 54:37
  Brad, some world news.
• 54:39
  So, F1, you know, that series that we all like to either watch or sleep
• 54:45
  during, has decided that they will not be coming to the Americas, North or South
• 54:51
  America, at all during the 2020 season.
• 54:54
  Thanks to COVID, they are not going to be traveling on this side of the pond.
• 54:58
  Instead, they're going to replace the U.
• 55:00
  S.
• 55:00
  Grand Prix, the Mexican Grand Prix, and the Brazilian Grand Prix.
• 55:04
  With three new races in Europe, they're going to be doing the Nürburgring
• 55:08
  Grand Prix circuit, which they haven't had a race there since 2013.
• 55:12
  They're also going to be doing Imola and Portima.
• 55:15
  So for all those listeners that were looking forward to going to a Grand
• 55:18
  Prix this year, you better get your plane tickets to go across the ocean,
• 55:22
  because you're not going to be able to on this side of the Atlantic.
• 55:25
  And then the next story I'm going to talk about is less about news and more just
• 55:29
  something that's kind of interesting.
• 55:31
  So I'm going to ask a question.
• 55:32
  What is the best color in motorsports?
• 55:35
  Black.
• 55:36
  Well, you would say black.
• 55:38
  Manufacturers would say bright colors that help them sell their cars, you
• 55:41
  know, liveries and things like that.
• 55:43
  Drivers would say the checkered flag, black and white.
• 55:46
  But manufacturers, they say, and team coaches and team
• 55:49
  principals, it's the gray.
• 55:52
  The gray color, the gray area between the rule books and cheating.
• 55:55
  Oh, man.
• 55:58
  So in light of the, the recent events with force India, uh, and the, the, the
• 56:04
  cheating, the alleged cheating going on with their team, they've got all kinds
• 56:10
  of, you know, investigations going on, or we're going to talk about a couple of.
• 56:15
  Stories from history in the motor sports world where teens, you know,
• 56:19
  cheated, got away with it for a little bit, you know, had a lot
• 56:22
  of success until they got caught.
• 56:25
  So the first one Eric might know about.
• 56:27
  Does it start with Lotus?
• 56:28
  I'm so excited.
• 56:29
  No, it does not start with Lotus.
• 56:31
  It actually starts with a Toyota Celica.
• 56:34
  Back in, back in 1995, the World Rally Championship, so I figured
• 56:38
  you might know about this one.
• 56:40
  The World Rally Championship authorities said the drivers and said that the
• 56:44
  cars had to have restrictor plates.
• 56:46
  Well, Toyota manufactured these, these little spring mechanisms that,
• 56:52
  while under load, they would push the restrictor plates open just enough to
• 56:56
  get a little additional air through.
• 56:58
  But then, you know, coming off throttle and coming back into the pits after,
• 57:03
  after the racing or whatever, the, the pressure would be taken off the springs,
• 57:07
  or they could take the pressure off the springs and the restrictor plate
• 57:10
  would go back into the legal limits.
• 57:14
  The next story is about a NASCAR and Unic.
• 57:22
  His car is HAHAHAHAHA You were what was that again?
• 57:28
  His name, his name is Smokey Unic.
• 57:33
  You gotta be kidding me, right?
• 57:35
  No, it's brilliant.
• 57:37
  It's not spelled like you would spell eunuch.
• 57:39
  It's Y U N I C.
• 57:41
  But anyway, he got his cars, he got his cars from Chevrolet.
• 57:45
  He drove a Chevy Chevelle, uh, in the 67 and 68 NASCAR series.
• 57:50
  But he did all kinds of little things to his car to make it kind of
• 57:54
  questionable, whether it was legal or not.
• 57:56
  He had the bottom undercarriage smoothed, so it didn't have all the
• 58:00
  little imperfections and everything.
• 58:02
  So it made it more slippery.
• 58:03
  He had a tube frame welded completely to the frame of the car.
• 58:07
  So it was kind of, I guess the first, you know, uh, yeah, the first integrated
• 58:11
  version of the, the tube frame chassis.
• 58:14
  Uh, he had the chrome front bumper was deepened to act as an air dam.
• 58:18
  He had the rain gutters and the glass gutters and glass trim and
• 58:21
  everything were made to be flush with the rest of the body of the car.
• 58:25
  So really there was nowhere for the air to go but around it.
• 58:28
  It just, it made the car super slippery and super fast.
• 58:32
  And NASCAR caught him and then he was in trouble.
• 58:35
  But I think my favorite parts about this story.
• 58:38
  And not his name, Smokey Eunuch, because that is just amazing.
• 58:43
  My favorite part about this story was the fuel tank.
• 58:46
  So he got in trouble for the fuel tank.
• 58:48
  I guess he was carrying too much fuel and NASCAR took the fuel tank out
• 58:52
  of the car to inspect it further.
• 58:55
  While the fuel tank was removed from the car, he was able to start it and drive
• 58:59
  it Back to his pit because apparently he used thicker than usual fuel lines.
• 59:06
  So they held up to, they held up to two to five gallons more fuel, which allowed him
• 59:13
  to have fewer pit stops and everything.
• 59:15
  So that's my favorite part.
• 59:17
  A quote from his autobiography.
• 59:20
  Somebody asked him, was this car a cheater, Smokey?
• 59:22
  And he said, you're goddamn right.
• 59:24
  It was.
• 59:28
  That's awesome.
• 59:29
  Honesty to the very end.
• 59:32
  So moving on to Formula 1, which we touched on earlier.
• 59:35
  Red Bull racing flirted with the gray area and racing a little bit
• 59:39
  back in 2011 to 2014, where they had that front wing on the RB seven cars.
• 59:45
  Now, these are the cars that Sebastian Vettel drove during his four time
• 59:49
  championships with the team and the RB seven car had a flexible.
• 59:53
  front wing.
• 59:55
  So what this means is it, you know, paddock speeds and driving around, you
• 59:59
  know, for inspection and everything, the wing was in one, one position.
• 1:00:03
  It was, you know, a certain height above the road as was legal by, uh, the F FIA,
• 1:00:08
  uh, you know, regulations, but it's speed.
• 1:00:11
  The wing would get closer to the ground.
• 1:00:14
  Which would allow the car to, I guess, handle better, the aerodynamics were
• 1:00:17
  better, it would be faster, and this gave, you know, Red Bull an advantage,
• 1:00:22
  you know, and then eventually they got caught, uh, and then therefore
• 1:00:25
  they got penalized, and, and the wing was deemed to be, uh, not valid.
• 1:00:29
  Moving on, you know, uh, Formula One, again, uh, back in 1981, this
• 1:00:35
  is with the Brabham BT49C, they had hydro pneumatic suspension.
• 1:00:40
  It was suspension that was half filled with air.
• 1:00:43
  And half filled with hydraulic fluid.
• 1:00:46
  So what it would do is driving around the paddock and everything.
• 1:00:48
  It was just normal ride height.
• 1:00:49
  Once the car was up to speed, the aerodynamic downforce provided by the
• 1:00:52
  front and rear wings would push down the body, expelling just enough of
• 1:00:57
  the cylinders contents to the central reservoir, thereby lowering the right
• 1:01:01
  height, the car would remain in its lowered state until the end of the race.
• 1:01:05
  And then once you were coming back into the paddock, all that,
• 1:01:08
  you know, the contents would.
• 1:01:09
  Go back to the suspension, raising the ride height again,
• 1:01:13
  back to the legal limit.
• 1:01:14
  You know, this was when, uh, when PK won the championship, he won in 1981.
• 1:01:18
  He was caught, they were caught halfway through the season.
• 1:01:22
  Uh, and then essentially they lost their advantage because other teams
• 1:01:24
  were like, Hey, we can do that too.
• 1:01:26
  And they started, you know, playing with the rules and stuff.
• 1:01:28
  Well, there is an upside to all that.
• 1:01:30
  Let's call it alleged cheating.
• 1:01:32
  Is that that pushing the boundary to win to, to get that competitive advantage?
• 1:01:37
  Usually.
• 1:01:38
  Trickles down years later into production cars because that, you know,
• 1:01:42
  hydropneumatic suspension and all that we take advantage of that on on road cars.
• 1:01:46
  Now, with even the magneto suspensions and air ride and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:01:50
  And so all of these guys, you know, maybe they wear the scarlet letter.
• 1:01:54
  But at the end of the day, they were pioneers of automotive engineering
• 1:01:58
  and we've reaped the benefits.
• 1:01:59
  decades later of them pushing the boundary.
• 1:02:02
  So I mean, I don't fault them so much.
• 1:02:03
  And I'm sure whatever's going on with force India will
• 1:02:06
  have a rippling effect later.
• 1:02:08
  And you know, the next Toyota Yaris that debuts will have some technology
• 1:02:13
  from maybe that Formula One car.
• 1:02:14
  Who knows, right?
• 1:02:15
  On the other side of the pond, on our side, there's, you know,
• 1:02:18
  big, big race just happened.
• 1:02:20
  The weekend of August 23rd was the Indy 500, right?
• 1:02:23
  The Indy 500 usually happens Memorial Day weekend, but thanks to COVID it was
• 1:02:26
  punted all the way to the end of August.
• 1:02:29
  And I have a feeling most of us probably forgot about it because Penske pulled
• 1:02:34
  the plug late July reversing their course and saying the Indy 500 is
• 1:02:39
  closed to fans because originally it was going to be one of the first big
• 1:02:42
  races to reopen with full grandstands and said they pulled that away.
• 1:02:46
  In addition to that, it was the first Indy 500 without a woman driver
• 1:02:51
  in the field since the year 2000.
• 1:02:53
  So there's been a female driver in the Indy 500 since 2000 up until this year.
• 1:02:58
  And you know, that goes back to a previous episode we did, you know,
• 1:03:01
  about the gentleman driver and getting sponsorship and all that kind of thing.
• 1:03:04
  We debated that and then about, you know, females and motorsport.
• 1:03:07
  So that's an interesting story, uh, there too.
• 1:03:10
  And we posted the link for that if you want to dive into that a little bit more.
• 1:03:13
  But it poses a question, you know, I know granted we were busy at the track
• 1:03:16
  and we're going to talk about that a little bit more here towards the end
• 1:03:18
  of the segment, you know, this past weekend when the Indy 500 was going
• 1:03:22
  on, but I didn't even hear anybody talk about it around the paddock.
• 1:03:25
  Like it just seemed off.
• 1:03:27
  Like, did anybody even care?
• 1:03:29
  The only time I heard about it was from Sam when I was getting ready
• 1:03:32
  to leave and he asked me if I was gonna try and find it on the radio.
• 1:03:35
  Up to that point, I had no idea what was going on, but I'm not that big of
• 1:03:38
  an IndyCar fan, so I'm not surprised that I didn't know it was going on.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah, it's a shame though, and I hope next year's better.
• 1:03:46
  And we all get back in the groove and, and, you know, we haven't lost that
• 1:03:49
  enthusiasm about racing and some of the larger events, but that doesn't seem to
• 1:03:53
  have stopped the crazies over at MotoGP.
• 1:03:57
  Has it Tanya?
• 1:03:58
  No, they were still racing and, uh, weekend, I guess at the Austria, uh,
• 1:04:04
  GP race, there was a massive crash.
• 1:04:08
  Well, I guess what could have been a very massive crash.
• 1:04:12
  Morbidelli and Zarco collided with each other, which caused Morbidelli's
• 1:04:17
  bike to keep going down the track.
• 1:04:19
  And the Austrian track is not well known for its safety, if you will,
• 1:04:24
  particularly for motorcycles.
• 1:04:26
  There were no barriers to prevent the motorcycle from continuing its path
• 1:04:29
  of travel, and continuing it did.
• 1:04:31
  Straight across, you know, all the sand, trap, the grass, back out on the track,
• 1:04:36
  right as Vinales and Rossi were coming out of the turn and his bike, if there was a
• 1:04:44
  paper between his bike flying in front of Rossi, that was a lot of, a lot of space.
• 1:04:50
  There's a video, um, that you can watch, they kind of cover several
• 1:04:54
  angles and go through it a few times.
• 1:04:57
  And at first you're like, Oh, okay, big deal.
• 1:04:58
  And then you kind of see the different angles and you're like, Oh my goodness.
• 1:05:02
  He's so lucky.
• 1:05:03
  They're both lucky that they didn't get completely taken out, wiped out
• 1:05:07
  by a motorcycle that's probably still traveling at close to 200 miles an
• 1:05:11
  hour, just across the ground, right?
• 1:05:12
  A projectile coming at them.
• 1:05:14
  I mean, scary.
• 1:05:15
  Those guys, without a doubt, are just a different caliber of racer
• 1:05:19
  to do what they do that close to the ground without, you know, a
• 1:05:23
  metal cage around them by any means.
• 1:05:25
  So, you know, hats off to their bravery and they're just.
• 1:05:29
  Very lucky.
• 1:05:30
  Glad to see that nobody was seriously injured.
• 1:05:33
  I say it about hockey players all the time, and the same rings true
• 1:05:37
  for motorcyclists and MotoGP riders.
• 1:05:41
  They are a complete different species.
• 1:05:44
  They are not human.
• 1:05:45
  I mean, if you think about, like, all the crashes and stuff that happened at
• 1:05:48
  the Isle of Man, during the time trials they run there, and how many people die.
• 1:05:52
  or get seriously injured year in and year out.
• 1:05:56
  And yet they still show up.
• 1:05:58
  What is it?
• 1:05:58
  Hundreds of riders every single year to test and to tempt fate, you
• 1:06:03
  know, to try and set the best times.
• 1:06:05
  It's just that it's ludicrous what these guys go through.
• 1:06:07
  Same with hockey players and, and, you know, against other sports.
• 1:06:10
  It's just, it's amazing.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah.
• 1:06:12
  And I mean, a lot of people say, you know, IndyCar is the best thing on TV.
• 1:06:15
  NASCAR is the best thing on TV.
• 1:06:17
  I'm a, I'm a big fan of WRC.
• 1:06:19
  But I mean, my dad used to be a big MotoGP Superbike fan and he graduated
• 1:06:24
  into that and he was like, man, none of this other racing even holds a candle
• 1:06:29
  to what the guys on the bikes do.
• 1:06:30
  So if you're looking for something different and something really exciting,
• 1:06:34
  start watching MotoGP and start watching Superbike because it is out of this world
• 1:06:38
  crazy and you definitely won't be put to sleep like watching any of those F1 races.
• 1:06:43
  That is for sure.
• 1:06:44
  But speaking of formula one and kind of stepping back in time, another
• 1:06:48
  article that came across our desk was machine learning reveals the fastest
• 1:06:52
  F1 driver of the past 40 years.
• 1:06:54
  And I said,
• 1:06:59
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:07:00
  Sad trombone.
• 1:07:01
  I said to myself, who cares?
• 1:07:04
  Right?
• 1:07:04
  Because it's like comparing apples and chainsaws.
• 1:07:07
  I mean, this was the premise of the Fongio documentary that I, that
• 1:07:11
  I reviewed a couple months back.
• 1:07:12
  If anybody searches our website and looks it up, it's under must see documentaries.
• 1:07:17
  And it was the whole thing.
• 1:07:17
  Oh, we're going to talk to all these.
• 1:07:18
  People were going to run machine learning algorithms.
• 1:07:21
  And at the end of the day, Fongio is the best driver of all time,
• 1:07:24
  but it's an economy of scale.
• 1:07:26
  So Senna was the best.
• 1:07:28
  Is he better than Schumacher?
• 1:07:30
  Yes, because Schumacher wasn't as good when Schumacher and Senna ran together.
• 1:07:35
  But is Hamilton as good as Senna or vice versa?
• 1:07:39
  You know, Senna was better than Emerson, Fittipaldi, you know, but it's like,
• 1:07:42
  who cares at the end of the day, realistically, the only thing that matters
• 1:07:46
  is the number of wins you have and, you know, Schumacher still holds the title
• 1:07:50
  for the most championships until that gets, you know, it's like Babe Ruth in
• 1:07:54
  baseball until you beat it or, or whoever.
• 1:07:57
  That it doesn't really matter.
• 1:07:59
  And they do this, like you just said, in baseball.
• 1:08:01
  They do this in every sport.
• 1:08:03
  I mean, what was it, a couple years ago?
• 1:08:05
  Five years ago?
• 1:08:05
  They did this in horse racing.
• 1:08:07
  Yeah.
• 1:08:07
  And they ran a simulation.
• 1:08:09
  Now, granted, the variables in F1 racing are significantly
• 1:08:13
  more than in horse racing.
• 1:08:14
  In horse racing, essentially, you have the horses and the track.
• 1:08:17
  And with the exception of weather, it's the same conditions every single time.
• 1:08:21
  But With you got different cars, you got different competition,
• 1:08:26
  uh, it's, it's just completely it's, it's an asinine comparison.
• 1:08:31
  They do it in basketball.
• 1:08:32
  Was Kobe the best ever?
• 1:08:33
  Is, you know, Jordan the best ever?
• 1:08:36
  Or is it someone from before, you know, in baseball, like you said, Babe
• 1:08:39
  Ruth, Hank Aaron, are they the best?
• 1:08:41
  Or is it the Barry Bonds and them?
• 1:08:42
  Exactly.
• 1:08:43
  It's just, it's these comparisons.
• 1:08:45
  They're really just.
• 1:08:47
  They're their fan service and the fans of the whoever, you know, they're going
• 1:08:52
  to debate because they have a favorite.
• 1:08:54
  Absolutely.
• 1:08:55
  But there's 1 superstar that we cannot contest.
• 1:08:58
  And time is going to tell us about Mr Tom Cruise.
• 1:09:02
  So this is this is old news quite frankly, but it.
• 1:09:05
  It kind of, I don't remember why it came up in the GTM conversation at some point.
• 1:09:10
  Something came up about Tom Cruise and I was like, yeah, Tom Cruise.
• 1:09:13
  There's a picture of him at Summit.
• 1:09:15
  And yes, there is.
• 1:09:16
  There's a picture of him and, uh, the late great Paul Newman,
• 1:09:20
  um, hanging in the Shea kitchen.
• 1:09:21
  Shea Summit, that's the main raceway, but, um, before his days of thunder, Tom
• 1:09:28
  actually tried his hand at a little bit of race car driving, and I believe Paul
• 1:09:32
  Newman kind of helped him a little bit.
• 1:09:34
  He was driving Newman Sharp sponsored Nissan at one point, and there's a
• 1:09:40
  Jalopnik article that actually goes through this, and again, it's called
• 1:09:44
  Old News because it's Was released all the way back in 2010, but, um, obviously
• 1:09:49
  the story isn't going to change and I'm going to quote a lot out of it because
• 1:09:52
  I think it's better told that way, you know, he had, he had his racing career
• 1:09:56
  and I will say there's a couple of YouTube videos of real live footage of
• 1:10:00
  him racing at summit point and everything.
• 1:10:02
  And it's pretty interesting to watch and listen to the very dramatic announcer
• 1:10:07
  announcing the race and there's.
• 1:10:09
  A few clips of them kind of interviewing Tom and whatnot in the paddock in that
• 1:10:14
  one YouTube video clip they were talking about, I guess, in his first year, he had
• 1:10:17
  one, he had 16 starts, one, four races.
• 1:10:20
  So, okay.
• 1:10:20
  He was doing something out there.
• 1:10:22
  And then that second year, I think is when he moved up classes and was in
• 1:10:25
  the Nissan 300 ZX Nissan, and you know.
• 1:10:30
  At one point, I guess they called in or they were interviewing this gentleman,
• 1:10:35
  Roger French, who at the time was a regional champion with SCCA and they were
• 1:10:40
  kind of asking, Hey, hey, look at this.
• 1:10:42
  You look at some footage of Tom driving.
• 1:10:44
  What do you think?
• 1:10:47
  And Mr.
• 1:10:48
  French there says doesn't look too good.
• 1:10:54
  So there's clue number one.
• 1:10:56
  He was eating ice cream.
• 1:10:59
  So he said, this is a quote, In the car he was very aggressive.
• 1:11:03
  I was trying to hold him back so he could learn in stages, but he wanted to go fast.
• 1:11:07
  It's in his nature.
• 1:11:08
  His attitude was go fast all the time.
• 1:11:10
  So he was a full send kind of guy.
• 1:11:13
  That's my kind of driver right there.
• 1:11:16
  And if you watch some of the video replays, I mean, there's
• 1:11:20
  a lot of him going sideways.
• 1:11:23
  A couple spins in there.
• 1:11:24
  Oh yeah, the video we're posting with this show is excellent, uh,
• 1:11:27
  summarization of Tom Cruise's STCA career.
• 1:11:31
  I mean, the article, he earned the nickname C.
• 1:11:35
  Cruise Crash Again, so there's something going on with this article.
• 1:11:41
  Overall, I described him as a nice guy and, you know, he's
• 1:11:45
  really into the, into that racing life for that time he was there.
• 1:11:47
  So he was trying to be dedicated to the sport.
• 1:11:49
  sport when he was there.
• 1:11:50
  He just wasn't, you know, there to get some photos or anything.
• 1:11:53
  He, he wanted to talk to talk and do all that stuff.
• 1:11:56
  But another quote from this gentleman, he didn't seem to put my advice into practice
• 1:12:00
  very much, but he was a really good guy when he was in the world of racing.
• 1:12:04
  He was in the world of racing for his part.
• 1:12:06
  He just fit right in.
• 1:12:08
  He was serious about racing and that's all he wanted to talk about.
• 1:12:11
  You just really had the feeling that once he closed the visor,
• 1:12:14
  he was back to being aggressive.
• 1:12:16
  So at the end of the day, you see his driving style, you kind of hear
• 1:12:20
  someone who was trying to coach him.
• 1:12:22
  He was a difficult student, is what we would probably say, you know, he,
• 1:12:26
  he was trying to do his own thing.
• 1:12:28
  These are my takeaways from, from reading and watching the videos.
• 1:12:33
  That confident and aggressive behavior probably overshadowed any.
• 1:12:36
  Possible talent he had and it just didn't develop.
• 1:12:39
  And, and who's to say like, you know, his acting career was taking off
• 1:12:42
  and you, you have to make choices in the path you wanna take in life.
• 1:12:46
  And clearly he opted, maybe it was a better choice to go down
• 1:12:50
  the, uh, the movie side of things.
• 1:12:52
  It depends if you're a fan or not.
• 1:12:53
  It's questionable some of the movies, but I don't know.
• 1:12:56
  It's interesting.
• 1:12:57
  Very cool.
• 1:12:58
  So with that, we move into our next section.
• 1:13:01
  Would you like some fries with that?
• 1:13:04
  So Tanya, kick us off.
• 1:13:06
  Back to Florida.
• 1:13:07
  There's a lot of nice, fine people in Florida.
• 1:13:10
  We're not trying to, you know, poke fun at Floridians.
• 1:13:13
  There's crazy people in every state, in every part of the world
• 1:13:17
  that do some very crazy things.
• 1:13:19
  And, you know, this just happens again.
• 1:13:22
  It's another Florida man.
• 1:13:22
  And, you know, he wanted a Porsche, wanted a 911 Turbo.
• 1:13:27
  And, you know, perhaps he didn't have the 140 grand for it, but.
• 1:13:31
  He had the 75 for a home printer.
• 1:13:37
  So, you know, what do you do?
• 1:13:40
  I mean, you just print a cashier's check for 140, 000 and you walk into the
• 1:13:44
  dealer and you buy yourself a 9 11 gerbo.
• 1:13:46
  Makes total sense.
• 1:13:47
  Seems legit.
• 1:13:48
  And then you try to buy three Rolexes with more printed checks.
• 1:13:51
  And then of course, because you bought a 75 printer, and I don't know if you
• 1:13:55
  bought a 75 printer, you get caught, then you get arrested, and you very likely go
• 1:14:01
  to jail for fraudulent activities, and Check forging and all sorts of good stuff.
• 1:14:07
  So needless to say, he was caught.
• 1:14:09
  Short lived.
• 1:14:10
  Hope he enjoyed the two days he had to 9 11.
• 1:14:13
  I mean, there is all sorts of wrong with this equation.
• 1:14:17
  From not just the printing of the check, but the people that accepted it,
• 1:14:21
  the dealership, and everything else.
• 1:14:23
  I mean, it's just mind boggling.
• 1:14:25
  And again, not trying to single out Florida, because But the
• 1:14:29
  stuff that goes on down there, you can't, you can't make this up.
• 1:14:32
  What, maybe it was a really good printer, I don't know.
• 1:14:35
  I mean, usually the cashier's checks and things like that, I
• 1:14:37
  mean, checks in general, I mean, have certain marks, watermark.
• 1:14:42
  They use a special magnetic ink.
• 1:14:45
  There you go.
• 1:14:45
  So again, it all comes full circle.
• 1:14:47
  You take apart the Etch a Sketch to use the parts to repair your
• 1:14:50
  Cybertruck, use the magnet, aluminum magnetic powder inside the Etch a
• 1:14:54
  Sketch to make your, Your check that you bought the printer from Best Buy,
• 1:14:58
  so you can go buy your Sony Vision S.
• 1:15:00
  You see it all, it's all full circle.
• 1:15:03
  It's turtles all the way down from here.
• 1:15:06
  And then, with your Best Buy rewards points, you can turn
• 1:15:08
  around on the PlayStation 5, and put in your Sony Vision S.
• 1:15:13
  There you go.
• 1:15:14
  We have connected all the dots now.
• 1:15:16
  So what else is going on in Florida?
• 1:15:18
  Anything?
• 1:15:20
  So this one is quite good, and it's worth a look at the image.
• 1:15:25
  So, it's a very short article, and our southern friends at Wink News,
• 1:15:31
  Southwest Florida's leading news, Posted this article about a Florida
• 1:15:35
  man, seen on video, riding on the hood of a truck down a busy highway.
• 1:15:40
  And I would like to point out that it's not just a truck, like,
• 1:15:44
  ain't no Ford F 150 or Chevy.
• 1:15:47
  This is a frickin semi truck, okay?
• 1:15:51
  And, according to the picture, He's only wearing underwear.
• 1:15:55
  He's sunbathing.
• 1:15:57
  I noticed that too.
• 1:15:59
  I was like, wow.
• 1:16:00
  At least I hope it's underwear and not blurred out.
• 1:16:04
  But at any rate, it's hopefully grey underwear.
• 1:16:06
  I'm gonna read.
• 1:16:08
  Florida man went for a nine mile busy highway.
• 1:16:13
  But in a highly unusual fashion, on the hood of a tractor trailer, the
• 1:16:17
  South Florida Sun Sentinel reported that the unidentified man climbed onto
• 1:16:21
  the hood, Saturday, after stopping his vehicle along Florida's Turnpike
• 1:16:26
  and walking out onto the highway.
• 1:16:27
  The Florida Highway Patrol says, the tractor trailer driver continued on down
• 1:16:33
  the road as the man clung to the hood and began pounding on the windshield
• 1:16:38
  with his fists and his forehead.
• 1:16:41
  Eventually, a trooper stopped the tractor trailer and took the man into custody.
• 1:16:45
  He was committed for a 72 hour mental health evaluation
• 1:16:48
  under the state's Baker Act.
• 1:16:50
  No serious injuries were reported.
• 1:16:52
  Not to say, if he has a mental health issue.
• 1:16:55
  But that's nothing to make fun of, and I hope he gets the help that he
• 1:16:58
  needs, because that's very serious.
• 1:17:00
  That aside, what the hell was the tractor trailer driver doing?
• 1:17:03
  Like, why did you keep going for nine miles?
• 1:17:06
  That guy, that guy was standing his ground.
• 1:17:09
  Maybe.
• 1:17:10
  He's got that stand your ground law.
• 1:17:12
  I bet that's what he was doing.
• 1:17:13
  Maybe they were reenacting the scene from Indiana Jones, where he crawls up from
• 1:17:18
  underneath of the Nazi, you know, military truck and then ends up on the windshield.
• 1:17:23
  They'll say there was some other crazy stuff that happened in Florida this past
• 1:17:26
  month and it involved inebriation and or in the riding was going down the highway.
• 1:17:39
  So public service announcement, please do not operate any sort of
• 1:17:44
  motorized vehicle under the influence of drugs or alcohol, please.
• 1:17:49
  Period.
• 1:17:49
  Full stop.
• 1:17:50
  But with that being said, I can explain our next story, which is A
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  square body hauls 32, 000 pounds.
• 1:17:59
  What's a square body?
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  Shimmy!
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  Yeah!
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  And I tell you what, I started watching this video and I got about 30 seconds
• 1:18:09
  in and my brain started to melt.
• 1:18:13
  And then I realized, Mountain Man Dan is gonna be so proud of this.
• 1:18:17
  So I gotta watch this video because it involves square bodies.
• 1:18:21
  And I'm like, alright, I'm in it.
• 1:18:23
  And then I realized it's 20 minutes long and I'm like I'm
• 1:18:28
  like, holy cow Where are we going?
• 1:18:32
  So the moral to the story is If you want to understand the phrase more money than
• 1:18:39
  brains, you can't have that much money.
• 1:18:41
  He's got a square body All right, hold up He bought a retired fire
• 1:18:45
  truck, bright red, all the decals on the side, paid 15 grand for a square
• 1:18:51
  body, and it's mint, lifted, I mean they showed pictures of it underneath,
• 1:18:55
  all the parts have been replaced.
• 1:18:57
  manual transmission, rebuilt 350.
• 1:19:00
  All this stuff.
• 1:19:01
  I mean, this truck, this truck was ready to go, but I'm looking at this thing for,
• 1:19:05
  for what it is being as, as old as it is.
• 1:19:07
  It's a great truck, 15 grand, maybe a little bit much to spend on it.
• 1:19:11
  And then this guy, younger gentlemen, he decides.
• 1:19:15
  Well, we did a test on another episode where we wanted to see how much a
• 1:19:19
  Ford F 150 diesel or whatever it was could tow to its absolute limit.
• 1:19:25
  And apparently this gentleman is not a fan of the square body.
• 1:19:29
  And he tells you that pretty much within the first minute of the video.
• 1:19:33
  And he says, I want to prove or disprove whether or not these trucks are really
• 1:19:37
  all that they're cracked up to be because square body owners are religious.
• 1:19:40
  As we know, Mount Mandan is those trucks can do anything.
• 1:19:43
  They can go anywhere.
• 1:19:45
  There will be one in space next to the Tesla Roadster.
• 1:19:48
  It'll be flying rust, though, but you know, hey, whatever.
• 1:19:51
  He decides, okay, I'm gonna make sides for the bed, and I'm
• 1:19:55
  gonna fill it with firewood.
• 1:19:56
  Cool.
• 1:19:57
  I was like, well, to me, that does not seem like 16 tons of wood.
• 1:20:02
  Nope.
• 1:20:02
  That was to level the bed with the roof, so that he could then proceed
• 1:20:08
  to put logs, telephone poles, and all sorts of trees on top of the truck.
• 1:20:16
  And then strap it down with chains to the body and see how far he could drive.
• 1:20:20
  Once they realized they had forward motion, Then it was time
• 1:20:24
  to do all sorts of crazy things.
• 1:20:26
  So I'm not gonna spoiler alert, but you need to watch the video and watch it
• 1:20:30
  through the end because there's even stuff in the outtakes of the video
• 1:20:34
  that are just mind bogglingly stupid.
• 1:20:37
  But I will say it has left me with a new impression of the square body.
• 1:20:42
  Those trucks are Hilux.
• 1:20:46
  You cannot kill one as hard as these guys try.
• 1:20:50
  But you will lose brain cells by the end of that 20 minute period.
• 1:20:54
  It is absolutely bonkers.
• 1:20:56
  All right, and on that it's time for some random car adjacent news.
• 1:21:01
  So let's order up some golden nuggets.
• 1:21:03
  First up, many of you may or may not know, the DeLorean Motor Company still exists.
• 1:21:09
  It is based out of Texas and they are still working on developing a new version
• 1:21:15
  of the DeLorean and we wrote about this in a in an article earlier this year that
• 1:21:19
  Mountain Man Dan put together because he's a big fan of the DeLorean but you
• 1:21:22
  can now own your own time machine and i'm not talking about a gullwing stainless
• 1:21:27
  steel car No, Texas based DMC Motors has licensed the rights to the UK based
• 1:21:34
  Charlie Foxtrot watches to release a line of DeLorean inspired DMC watches.
• 1:21:42
  And so the website is dmc watch.
• 1:21:45
  com.
• 1:21:45
  They have seven different styles and they clock in.
• 1:21:49
  Haha, pun intended.
• 1:21:51
  Between 130 and 150 U.
• 1:21:53
  S.
• 1:21:54
  So they're really affordable.
• 1:21:55
  They're actually very stylish.
• 1:21:57
  All of the bezels are stainless steel, and you can check them out on the website.
• 1:22:01
  Really cool stuff.
• 1:22:02
  I'm actually thinking about picking one up.
• 1:22:04
  So, yes, you can now own your own DeLorean at a very affordable price, unlike the
• 1:22:08
  DeLoreans that are going to be coming out of Texas, which will probably have
• 1:22:12
  a sticker price well above 100, 000.
• 1:22:16
  Do they come with a line of Coke?
• 1:22:19
  That's the DeLorean S model.
• 1:22:20
  What else we got in there, Tanya?
• 1:22:25
  Somebody posted from Road and Track.
• 1:22:27
  You don't use brake clean to clean everything in your shop.
• 1:22:30
  Probably most people have brake clean or maybe use gum out instead.
• 1:22:35
  I mean, at the end of the day, it's a chemical.
• 1:22:39
  There's always going to be a warning label saying there's potential for causing
• 1:22:42
  cancer, and BrakeClean's no different.
• 1:22:44
  I mean, honestly, you should always use BrakeClean or GumOut or any of those
• 1:22:49
  solvents in a well ventilated area.
• 1:22:51
  I mean, I tend to use GumOut, which is basically Acetone.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah, aerosol nail polish remover, so.
• 1:22:58
  You know, I'm a little less concerned about acetone, but at the end of the day,
• 1:23:03
  you're under the car and you're spraying stuff down and that vapor cloud is hanging
• 1:23:06
  over your head and you start choking and you start nose burning and whatnot.
• 1:23:11
  I mean, it's not good for you.
• 1:23:12
  It's not healthy.
• 1:23:12
  So, I mean, the verdict I don't think is a solid.
• 1:23:16
  You spray it on your hands and you're going to die.
• 1:23:19
  You're in a room where it's in the air.
• 1:23:21
  You're going to die.
• 1:23:22
  I think it all comes down to prolonged exposure and how
• 1:23:25
  you're getting exposed to it.
• 1:23:26
  Obviously don't inhale it.
• 1:23:28
  Don't ingest it in any other form.
• 1:23:30
  You know, be sensible about when you're using chemicals.
• 1:23:32
  Yeah.
• 1:23:33
  And I don't have the chemistry background that you do.
• 1:23:35
  And I don't think of a lot of our listeners probably realize that yet
• 1:23:38
  about your background, that, you know, that's the industry you're in,
• 1:23:41
  you know, in the chemicals industry.
• 1:23:43
  I've always shied away from break clean because.
• 1:23:47
  The way I understood it is it's a formulation of bleach and the same
• 1:23:51
  chemicals they use for dry cleaning.
• 1:23:53
  And it's one of those things that is extremely harmful.
• 1:23:56
  And to your point, gum out or equivalent carbon choke cleaners, which are acetone
• 1:24:02
  based are not good for you either, but less harmful or carcinogenic,
• 1:24:07
  et cetera, compared to break clean.
• 1:24:09
  So I shy away from it.
• 1:24:11
  But I think the article was well written and it explains why you shouldn't
• 1:24:15
  and if you're concerned, you know what you have in your cabinet and
• 1:24:18
  you've never really thought about it before, I would recommend reading the
• 1:24:21
  article and getting a little bit more familiar with the solvents you do use.
• 1:24:26
  And I would say if you're a DIY mechanic and you're doing a lot of cleaning.
• 1:24:30
  Look into mineral spirits that do not have vapors in the same way as like an aerosol
• 1:24:36
  based cleaner does that, you know, with a proper wash tank and things like that.
• 1:24:40
  If you're doing a lot of heavy cleaning, especially if it's
• 1:24:42
  parts that are off of the car.
• 1:24:44
  And, you know, obviously, if it's something under the
• 1:24:45
  vehicle, you can't dismantle it.
• 1:24:48
  That makes it difficult.
• 1:24:49
  You need a spray.
• 1:24:50
  But even then, you can put mineral spirits in a spray bottle, like an
• 1:24:54
  old Windex bottle or something like that, and have the same effect, right?
• 1:24:58
  It cleans, I find the mineral spirits cleans up oil spills really well.
• 1:25:02
  That was one of the use cases in the article, but I also looked at it, went,
• 1:25:05
  well, you can buy a 5 bag of kitty litter.
• 1:25:08
  And just let it sit there, sop it up and then sweep it away.
• 1:25:10
  But you know, wear a mask when you're sweeping that too, because all that
• 1:25:14
  dust is not good for your lungs.
• 1:25:16
  So again, be safe.
• 1:25:18
  And in the day and now in the days of COVID where we're all wearing masks,
• 1:25:21
  remember to wear a mask when you're doing something in the garage that
• 1:25:24
  involves chemicals, vapors, et cetera.
• 1:25:26
  But is brake clean still the best for cleaning your brakes and preparing
• 1:25:31
  your new brakes to go on the car?
• 1:25:33
  I can do the same thing with gum out.
• 1:25:35
  I just prefer gum out and it evaporates quicker like I find break clean to
• 1:25:38
  be a little oilier in my opinion You know a little more just wetter.
• 1:25:43
  I don't know.
• 1:25:44
  It's hard to explain I I just find that gum out evaporates quicker dries
• 1:25:48
  cleaner But gum out you have to be really really careful because it will strip
• 1:25:51
  paint and it will melt plastics, right?
• 1:25:53
  Because that's the one of the things of acetone nail polish remover, right?
• 1:25:58
  So anyway, but we could we could diverge on that forever anything
• 1:26:01
  you want to add to that tanya?
• 1:26:02
  I mean chlorinated things generally aren't necessarily safe
• 1:26:08
  or, or, or healthy for the body.
• 1:26:10
  Something's excluded like table salt, which has chlorine in it, but that's
• 1:26:15
  a whole other compound that's safe.
• 1:26:17
  I mean, again, it just comes down to proper handling of it, good ventilation,
• 1:26:22
  and you don't want to let it sit there and be on your body or, or anything like that.
• 1:26:27
  I mean, if you got it in your eye and you need to take.
• 1:26:30
  You know, 15 minutes of flushing your eyes with water and, you know, seek medical
• 1:26:35
  attention, all that stuff, wash it off.
• 1:26:36
  You're part of the problem is like it can absorb into bloodstream
• 1:26:40
  and cause issues like that, which are health issues, which are bad.
• 1:26:44
  Well, switching gears to a little lighter subject.
• 1:26:46
  A lot of us have probably already.
• 1:26:48
  started thinking about the holidays and thinking about Christmas shopping.
• 1:26:51
  And we do put together a holiday shopping list at GTM every year.
• 1:26:54
  We've been doing it kind of as a tradition now for several years.
• 1:26:57
  And one of the things that just came across my desk, the post
• 1:27:00
  office has released for the first time, Hot Wheels inspired stamps.
• 1:27:05
  So you can start using those on your Christmas cards as you're getting
• 1:27:08
  prepared, since we're talking about the post office a little bit.
• 1:27:11
  You've also issued a.
• 1:27:14
  Small, little die cast, matchbox size, postal jeep that you can buy for 5.
• 1:27:20
  99.
• 1:27:21
  And I think they have a larger semi truck option, which is about 30, and
• 1:27:26
  the money goes to helping USPS out.
• 1:27:29
  So if you're into, again, collecting The little Matchbox Hot Wheels type cars.
• 1:27:33
  You could add a USPS postal truck to your collection.
• 1:27:37
  Very cool.
• 1:27:38
  So switching gears a little bit, we want to talk about a documentary
• 1:27:42
  that Brad actually brought to our attention not too long ago.
• 1:27:45
  We're not going to go in deep like we do in a lot of other movies, but I was
• 1:27:48
  really surprised to review Brock, which is considered a two part mini series.
• 1:27:54
  It was available on Netflix.
• 1:27:55
  It's now available on Amazon prime for you to review.
• 1:27:58
  It's all about the famous Australian driver, Peter Perfect,
• 1:28:02
  also known as Peter Brock.
• 1:28:04
  And it starts with his early days driving Austin eight thirties.
• 1:28:08
  You know how he got hooked up with the Holden racing team and all that and his
• 1:28:12
  career and his separation from GM and in the middle 80s not to give away the
• 1:28:16
  whole story but Peter Perfect outside of having most wins at the Bathurst
• 1:28:22
  12 hour race or the Bathurst Endurance race he's basically the creator of
• 1:28:28
  HSV or Holden Special Vehicles, right?
• 1:28:30
  So that was a specific branch of GM Australia that they let him spin
• 1:28:35
  off at the, that we know today, which now we know that Holden has
• 1:28:38
  been officially, you know, retired.
• 1:28:40
  And we heard, we learned that from Mike Crutchfield earlier this month.
• 1:28:43
  So really cool movie to tie back into some of the things that Mike was talking about.
• 1:28:48
  Unlike a typical documentary.
• 1:28:50
  It was a dramatization, which was cool.
• 1:28:52
  So they're real actors playing the parts.
• 1:28:54
  And some people you may recognize other people, you may not playing the
• 1:28:57
  parts of all the different people, you know, be it a Peter Brock, be it
• 1:29:01
  his manager and some, you know, the racers that he was with, et cetera.
• 1:29:04
  I found it fun, even though it was three hours long, the three
• 1:29:08
  hours went by really fast and it was, it was a good movie overall.
• 1:29:13
  But one of the cool things that they did was they actually interlaced real footage.
• 1:29:19
  into the movie footage with some CGI to simulate, you know, the
• 1:29:24
  actor being there as Peter Brock.
• 1:29:27
  And that was seamless, absolutely beautiful, very well done.
• 1:29:30
  So that made things move along really well.
• 1:29:33
  And it made the storytelling, I thought, more profound because it was
• 1:29:36
  a dramatization and not a documentary with a narrator or anything like that.
• 1:29:41
  So good story, worth checking out, free on Amazon Prime,
• 1:29:44
  uh, if you have access to it.
• 1:29:46
  in addition to that of movies when we posted links to these on the follow on
• 1:29:50
  article to this episode you can watch the new viral video that's going going around
• 1:29:55
  about a guy who mounts a gopro inside of his wheel and drives down the road so
• 1:29:59
  you actually get to see how a tire works from the inside i don't know about you
• 1:30:03
  guys but I thought it was interesting, but also not at the same time.
• 1:30:09
  I mean, it was anticlimactic.
• 1:30:10
  I mean, it's a fixed camera position, so it was really hard to see all the
• 1:30:15
  possible deflections and whatnot.
• 1:30:17
  And I don't know that, uh, it's been a while since I watched it, but
• 1:30:19
  I felt like he just kind of drove slowly around the blocks a few times.
• 1:30:23
  And then there were potholes or, you know, small potholes on those roads, but
• 1:30:27
  I don't know, it would have been cool kind of to see it go over a speed bump
• 1:30:31
  or really aggressively take a corner.
• 1:30:34
  I think he did at one point just kind of like quickly take off and
• 1:30:37
  make a turn, but it would have been interesting to really see an aggressive
• 1:30:41
  turn to see how the tire deflects.
• 1:30:44
  Yeah, I think I would have liked to have seen that video redone maybe with
• 1:30:47
  a slightly higher profile tire because I think that was the worry is that
• 1:30:51
  if because it was such a low profile tire, it probably crushed the camera.
• 1:30:55
  But I think on a higher profile tire on a racetrack, that would be really
• 1:30:59
  cool to see the deflection and the side, the sidewalls moving and all that
• 1:31:02
  kind of stuff on a proper race course, you know what it's like when you hit a
• 1:31:05
  curb at the racetrack, stuff like that.
• 1:31:07
  So we also learn how hot.
• 1:31:09
  Uh, that is true.
• 1:31:12
  That is very true.
• 1:31:13
  In addition to kind of cool movies that are out there.
• 1:31:15
  I posted links to a guy that built a working Lego rotary motor, all these
• 1:31:22
  cool light effects and he hooked up the spark plugs and he walks you through
• 1:31:25
  the build and It really kind of put into perspective if you're not into
• 1:31:29
  rotaries, like how a Winkle engine works and you know, how it's designed
• 1:31:34
  to work and at high speed, you can really see it with all the articulation,
• 1:31:39
  like how it actually functions.
• 1:31:41
  So if you're, if you want to learn something different, I
• 1:31:43
  would definitely check that out.
• 1:31:44
  And it was really cool to see the imagination and the creativity
• 1:31:47
  and the time that people put into.
• 1:31:49
  Building that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:50
  And on the opposite extreme of that, there's a gentleman in the
• 1:31:54
  UK who has become very famous for 3d printing, large scale Legos.
• 1:32:00
  And he just recently put together a double XL go kart.
• 1:32:05
  And it looks like a giant Lego Technic go kart and it's powered by
• 1:32:09
  an electric motor and he walks you through some testing and things like
• 1:32:13
  that of this prototype that he built.
• 1:32:16
  He gets it up to 31 miles an hour in a straight line drag race.
• 1:32:20
  But unfortunately it corners like, like a brick kind of terribly.
• 1:32:25
  And the reason being, and it was cool because the tires
• 1:32:29
  he has look like Lego tires.
• 1:32:30
  I mean, it's legit, right?
• 1:32:32
  The problem is they were plastic tires, but they were hard plastic.
• 1:32:35
  They were, no, they were, they were rubber tires, but they
• 1:32:38
  look like the knobby Lego tires.
• 1:32:40
  Like we're used to the everything, the steering wheel.
• 1:32:42
  It was all technique.
• 1:32:43
  The whole rack and pinion was a giant gear.
• 1:32:46
  I mean, when you see the video, you're like, wow, that's really cool.
• 1:32:49
  The problem was, and I guess him not being a car guy, this is
• 1:32:54
  where I saw the design fall apart.
• 1:32:55
  Yes, it's a go kart.
• 1:32:57
  Yes, it goes straight.
• 1:32:58
  Yes, it turns.
• 1:33:00
  The brakes were still a little suspect.
• 1:33:03
  The whole engine stuff was really cool, but he never thought
• 1:33:06
  to put a differential in it.
• 1:33:08
  So it turns.
• 1:33:10
  like a brick.
• 1:33:12
  It will not turn.
• 1:33:14
  And then what they did was they sped up the video to make
• 1:33:17
  it look like it's turning.
• 1:33:18
  But in an outtake at the very end, you can hear him going.
• 1:33:21
  This thing will not turn.
• 1:33:22
  And he's doing like one mile an hour because the rear wheels are locked and
• 1:33:26
  it's just basically hopping around.
• 1:33:28
  It's pretty bad.
• 1:33:29
  So Apparently he's going to try to redesign the rear end to have a
• 1:33:32
  differential and then they're going to try again and put it on the legitimate
• 1:33:35
  go kart track and test it against real go karts to see how it holds up.
• 1:33:39
  So I'm actually waiting to see that video come out and that seems really cool.
• 1:33:43
  But if you're interested, this guy has got a pretty, pretty good following
• 1:33:47
  and we posted the video to that.
• 1:33:49
  Brad, you had something I think in there we consider a golden nugget.
• 1:33:52
  So a guy up in Canada essentially spent 140, 000 1, 000 rebuilding and
• 1:34:01
  putting his own twist on a Mark I GTI.
• 1:34:04
  I mean, that leaves me with a very big why.
• 1:34:08
  I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 1:34:09
  I love, and I'm nostalgic and I wax poetic.
• 1:34:13
  Over the mark one gtis but 140 grand really it was it was about 200 grand
• 1:34:19
  in total If you include all the tools and stuff that he had to buy
• 1:34:23
  And he spent about 12 000 hours of labor going through this car now.
• 1:34:29
  It's really cool It's got a high compression 16 valve engine.
• 1:34:32
  Uh, he bumped it out to 2.
• 1:34:34
  1 liters Completely redid the interior with period correct colors
• 1:34:37
  and uh in fabrics and everything.
• 1:34:40
  It's got 220 horsepower all motor KW V3 coilovers.
• 1:34:45
  It's got Mark 2 GTI transmission.
• 1:34:49
  He's got 14 inch wheels that hide four piston brakes.
• 1:34:53
  It's got carbon fiber bits, carbon fiber hood and hatch.
• 1:34:57
  Um, so he, he spent some time and did a really good job on it.
• 1:35:01
  But the real question is just why?
• 1:35:04
  I know because all the stuff you listed sounds like a, let's call it a 30,
• 1:35:08
  000 Mark I GTI I would see at Vagfare.
• 1:35:11
  You know what I mean?
• 1:35:12
  It's like, I don't know.
• 1:35:13
  Like, where did he sink?
• 1:35:14
  Is he factoring in his labor?
• 1:35:16
  I mean, I don't know.
• 1:35:17
  I just want to know what it sells for and bring a trailer at the end of the day.
• 1:35:19
  In the article, there is a 122 page write up.
• 1:35:24
  Of everything that he did.
• 1:35:26
  And then there's also a documented 180 different videos kind of showcasing
• 1:35:32
  the how to's and and everything he did.
• 1:35:34
  And a lot of that 140 grand goes into his one off research and development.
• 1:35:40
  So he's including his R and D cost.
• 1:35:43
  Uh, into building this car.
• 1:35:45
  Got it.
• 1:35:45
  Okay.
• 1:35:46
  He sold it.
• 1:35:46
  He sold it to a couple up in, uh, in, in Canada, uh, and he's got a couple
• 1:35:52
  other projects that he's looking to do.
• 1:35:54
  I guess the bigger question is, is this in Canadian dollars or U.
• 1:35:57
  S.
• 1:35:57
  dollars?
• 1:35:58
  The article did not say.
• 1:36:00
  Hmm.
• 1:36:00
  But he's got two other projects.
• 1:36:02
  The first project is he, he hasn't started him yet, but he wants to do E mini bikes.
• 1:36:07
  Um, so he wants to electrify some of the, uh, the seventies, like banana bikes.
• 1:36:11
  So you used to see running around and he also wants to build a Tesla
• 1:36:15
  model three for the track, probably.
• 1:36:17
  So we can beat that nine 11 GT three.
• 1:36:20
  Yeah, Pike's Peak, baby.
• 1:36:23
  Uh, last thing in this segment.
• 1:36:24
  So an article came across our desk, thanks to Sam.
• 1:36:27
  And it really explains why software developers choose what they choose.
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  They build a simulation game, especially a racing game.
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  I thought it was actually quite interesting.
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  I won't bore you guys with the details.
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  We will post the link to the article, but basically it comes down to
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  processing power and concessions, right?
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  They can only simulate so much and only give you so much realism based on, you
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  technology that we have, processing power.
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  And then there's a gameplay aspect to it, right?
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  So if you make it too difficult, nobody wants to play it, you make it too
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  easy, then it's just for, for kids.
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  It's like Mario Kart.
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  So there's a lot of that going back and forth and they
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  try to make everybody happy.
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  So I know we complain a lot about certain games.
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  Oh, Forza doesn't have this and Project Cars doesn't have that.
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  And then this one has, you know, the other thing.
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  At the end of the day, it's all about compromises.
• 1:37:13
  So if you're interested in getting that backstory, check
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  out the link to that article.
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  I found it to be interesting just to kind of nerd out on.
• 1:37:21
  So now we come to our final segment, the secret sauce, where we cover some
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  quickly cover some internal GTM news.
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  So.
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  I'll start out a couple shout outs for upcoming podcast episodes.
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  You guys will hear after this airs.
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  We want to say thank you to Joe Obernberger, Baron Mills,
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  and Travis Dixon from SCCA.
• 1:37:40
  We want to say thank you to Mark Francis from OG Racing.
• 1:37:43
  And we want to do a quick summer bash roundup.
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  We want to shout out to Mountain Man Dan and Matt Wood, our Region
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  Chiefs for the Mountain Region, for organizing and putting
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  together Summer Bash 6 at Pit Race.
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  It's the first time we had that not at Summit Point or in the DMV.
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  So, event went off without a hitch.
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  We had really, really good weather.
• 1:38:02
  We had a really good turnout, over 20 GTN members there.
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  Carding event was fantastic.
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  Congratulations to Sam Harrington for winning.
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  I'm not going to boast, but I did qualify on poll.
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  So John Kofici, if you hear that I went faster than Pete.
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  So, you know, we're, we're, we're officially putting that out there.
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  Pete also cheated and dabbled in that gray area with his 47 second run.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah, that's true.
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  That got disqualified, but But the the carding event was a huge success.
• 1:38:28
  We also have to a big shout out to Lauren Thompson Who's our newest
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  member from the mountain region who also catered our saturday night party,
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  which is awesome So big thank you to her and also welcoming aboard andrew
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  Mullerine who's a longtime friend of andrew bank and we welcome him to the
• 1:38:47
  dmv region So that's putting us well into the 70s in terms of our membership
• 1:38:52
  size, and we are looking to grow.
• 1:38:54
  We do get a membership requests all the time, just for listeners
• 1:38:58
  who are out there, you know, we'd like to meet you guys.
• 1:39:00
  We'd like to make sure that you're active participants in the group and you want
• 1:39:04
  to be part of the bigger GTM family.
• 1:39:06
  We've set up some different ways for you to get to know part of the team,
• 1:39:08
  especially now during COVID and when there's less and less events going on.
• 1:39:12
  So if you're interested in learning more about us, visit the website
• 1:39:15
  and don't be bashful to apply.
• 1:39:17
  We'd also like to give a shout out to Mateo Fontana for developing
• 1:39:20
  the new GTM store, which is set to release in September, and
• 1:39:23
  we'll have more on that later.
• 1:39:25
  And then some more shout outs.
• 1:39:26
  Big shout out to Mark Hicks from Chin Track Days for coming on
• 1:39:29
  the show and talking to us and giving us that whole backstory.
• 1:39:32
  We want to shout out to Harry Brill and Rob Lorz for participating in
• 1:39:36
  our What Should I Buy Wagons edition.
• 1:39:39
  To Mike Crutchfield for his two part story, uh, Storytime with Crutch
• 1:39:43
  and the Kiwis and Coffee episode that aired earlier this month.
• 1:39:47
  To the Latin lads, John and Steve Wade, whose episode aired last week.
• 1:39:52
  And our new Patreons for the month of August, Peter Bank, Jason
• 1:39:56
  Duncan, John Richter, Gordon Bell.
• 1:39:58
  Tom Wendy, Matt small.
• 1:40:00
  And again, you know, GTM is fueled by volunteers.
• 1:40:04
  So please consider signing up.
• 1:40:05
  It really helps groups like us grow, you know, without your
• 1:40:08
  support, we could not do what we do.
• 1:40:10
  And of course, I think we have one final shout out, Brad.
• 1:40:13
  I guess we should say thank you and shout out to Tanya.
• 1:40:17
  Yeah.
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  I mean, you know, what you guys don't realize is she does a lot of work.
• 1:40:23
  This drive through series that we put together is really inspired by her.
• 1:40:26
  And she's done a really good job of kind of formulating these segments and
• 1:40:29
  collecting the data and making sure that this goes off without a hitch.
• 1:40:32
  And we could not do this without her.
• 1:40:34
  And we're looking forward to doing more of these episodes and hearing more
• 1:40:37
  about all the people from Florida that, that she's, that she's researching.
• 1:40:40
  So thanks Tanya for doing this for us.
• 1:40:43
  And again, and again, to all the members who support GTM.
• 1:40:49
  We couldn't do this without you guys.
• 1:40:51
  So thank you all for your support.
• 1:40:53
  And on that note, I think it's time to end.
• 1:40:55
  What do you think guys?
• 1:40:57
  I think so.
• 1:40:58
  All right.
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  August is in the bag.
• 1:41:00
  Let's see what September brings us.
• 1:41:07
  Here we are in the drive thru line.
• 1:41:09
  Bus cars in back of us all just waiting to order.
• 1:41:14
  There's some idiot in a Volvo with his bright son behind me.
• 1:41:19
  I lean out the window and scream, Hey, whatcha trying to do, blind me?
• 1:41:24
  My wife says maybe we should If you like what you've heard and want to learn more
• 1:41:32
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• 1:41:54
  Hey listeners, Crew Chief Eric here.
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  Do you like what you've seen, heard, and read?
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