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Drivers Only: Episode 1 with Thomas Randle, David Reynolds and Ryan Wood · Rusty's Garage

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Who is in the driver's seat for this road trip?
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I hear you asking.
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Thomas Randall alongside that maniac, David Reynolds, and they're joined by a guy with a bit of spark, a bit of zing, a bright young star in Ryan Wood who's quite funny too.
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So pluck a gear, boys, as they say.
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Good luck and off you go.
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Wait, talk again?
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Hello.
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Yeah, that's sort of better.
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Oh, that's hello, hello, hello.
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Wait, what's this left one do?
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Nothing.
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Can you talk?
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Hello.
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Oh.
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Is that clear?
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Very good.
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That's pretty good.
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Perfect.
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Dude, that's disgusting.
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Hiked out.
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Why?
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Because I think I'm starting this thing.
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All right.
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All right.
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Are we ready?
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Yeah, I think so.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first episode of...
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What was it called again?
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It's actually not the first.
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Well, it's not.
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Okay, let's sort of do this.
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You can call this episode one.
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I forgot what it was called.
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We had episode zero.
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No, the Drivers Only.
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Drivers Only podcast.
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Okay.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first episode of the Drivers Only podcast.
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First, let me just introduce who's on the show.
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So we've got Mr. David Reynolds for tradie beer, new lawn,
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Team 18 Racing, Kenworth.
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I'm just reading off your shirt here.
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And then we've got the WAU rookie, Mr. Ryan Wood, who at the last minute threw his jacket on.
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So pleasure to have you both on here, boys.
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Thanks for inviting me, Randall.
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You don't invite us, do you?
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I mean, I can if you want.
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We actually did a pilot before, didn't we?
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So this is our second attempt.
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What happened to the first one?
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Do you know?
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It was not Scott Pye's idea in terms of this podcast.
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Would you agree?
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Well, we did this.
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The first one was me, you, and Nick.
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It was April.
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Oh, so I've replaced Nick.
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Basically, yeah.
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Again, yeah.
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Oh, straight away.
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Yeah, it's there.
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I hope Nick doesn't listen to this.
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He probably will.
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Hey, Nick.
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He probably will.
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So we did actually film an episode the week after.
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Which they cut out most of it, actually.
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Yeah, and why was that, David?
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Well, I got a bit loose on the mic and they cut out a lot of my things I was saying, so...
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Well, apparently it's not PG.
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That doesn't sound like you at all.
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I know.
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Well, this is take two.
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So- I'll pipe down.
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Let's roll back the clock to Darwin.
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So not too long ago, how did we enjoy our weekends up there on and off the track?
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Mate, I love Darwin.
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I have the best time every time I go there.
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Coming from Melbourne, we always talk about the weather being dog shit down here, which it is.
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And then you step off the plane in Darwin, which you would have done for the first time.
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It's like your
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on a holiday, just like beautiful blue sky, 30 degrees every day.
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It's just a cool vibe.
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I really love the place.
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And then we go racing, which is, you know, the track's quite cool.
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That's the first time you've been there yet, mate?
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It's a pretty cool place, actually.
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And how did you find it?
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Yeah, the track itself is actually quite technical.
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I probably underestimated it before.
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How hard it was.
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Yeah, yeah, and then rolled out for practice one and got a bit of a culture shock.
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Even the heat, like, you know, trying to do like 10 laps and you're like, wow, this gets pretty warm pretty quickly.
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And unfortunately my cool suit wasn't pre-cooled for the first race either.
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So that was quite eventful.
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When you say pre-cooled.
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Yeah, you know how they like cool it down before you jump in and it's usually.
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Well, in the Chev we can't have that.
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Oh.
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Because we've got those like, those flame out issues.
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Like we don't have enough.
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cranking amps or something to, it's like a voltage drop issue that we have in our cars.
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We actually.
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Oh, that's why you guys are so quick in a straight line.
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Yeah.
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Is that related to why the chevs are blowing up?
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Not related to why they're blowing up.
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It's just why they don't start.
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What's actually going on there?
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Why are the engines?
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I saw there's a few engine changes Saturday night.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely no idea.
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Yours have been fine?
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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I've had no dramas.
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I would just say it's not fun.
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Just get a new one.
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Why?
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Just say that.
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I don't know.
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I need time for a new engine, a new donk.
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It's fine.
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Happy.
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Okay.
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Very good.
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So, otherwise, we're back on topic.
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I had a great weekend.
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It was really fun.
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Where'd you end up?
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I was like 6th and 12th, I think.
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On Sunday, yeah.
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Yeah, you were beside me, and I was trying to keep you at bay.
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You're doing well.
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I was racing you guys at one point, too, just so.
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Did you see this asshole?
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Yes, yes.
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What did you do wrong?
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I think you needed to tune up.
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Nah, I was just racing hard because I thought I was... Oh, you weren't racing hard.
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You were just like taking the piss.
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The restart.
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Yeah, the restart.
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So the restart's always a drama there.
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Always a drama, isn't it?
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That's shocking.
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First time.
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It's my first time.
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That's one thing they need to do is send the safety car, I don't know, the start-finish line because it just never gets back in time to pit lane.
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So it's always a fuck up the start.
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And I think that Porsche's got a bit of mumbo.
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Who's driving it?
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It's Jason.
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Is it still Jason?
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Oh, I'm Jason.
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Get up it.
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Yeah, get up it.
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Or you're getting replaced like we are.
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We're not fast enough.
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Yeah.
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So anyway, it's always a cluster.
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And there's always like six cars wide.
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And this bloke on the outside just must have gassed it going, oh, here's my opportunity.
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Is this what you thought?
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What position was this for?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, 16th.
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I reckon it was worse than that.
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It was like 19th or 20th or something.
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Yeah, mate, that was the highest I was all weekend.
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So I'm like, I didn't be past five cars around the outside and just like head and move on waters around the outside.
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And I was like, yeah.
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Oh, that was you on the replay.
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I was like, pumping my chest in the seat.
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I was like, yeah, what?
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And then he just ran me wide at the hip and I was like, oh.
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And then because he weren't, like his car wasn't very fast, so he's like backed us all up and left the train.
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I'm like spewing on the road.
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No, I was behind you, so you were happy because I was like blocking Waters, you and a few others.
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Mate, you, like on that restart, you were trying to get like pushing me at the hairpin.
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I'm like, mate, I'm like, just piss off.
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Yeah, you're in the mirror.
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He's giving me the fingers.
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No, he gave me the hand.
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Really?
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Yeah, he's like full go-karts.
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I love that.
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What are you doing?
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Yeah, what are you doing?
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You were struggling.
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Did you undo your belts and tuck down the straight?
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Yeah, obviously.
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It's a long straight, so we need everything we can get at the moment.
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I got in trouble.
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I undid my belts after my quali lap.
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What do you mean?
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I just was like crossed the start-finish line and backed off and undid my belts.
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You dickhead.
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Why would you do such a thing?
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I didn't even realize I'd done it until Tim Edwards came and gave me a tune-up, which is well-deserved.
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Why did you?
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I don't know.
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Is this just part of the Ryan Wood little features?
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I looked down at my dash and I'm like, oh, no.
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And so it's just like one of those frustration things.
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Releasing disappointment.
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You know who could put a protest in for that?
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Triple A.
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Triple A, yeah.
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Speaking about protests and Triple A, what was the go with that one in the shootout on Sunday?
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I don't know.
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Seems a bit bizarre.
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Yeah.
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I thought it was good.
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I thought it was good, yeah.
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I've never seen someone catch someone like that before.
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But it was happening quite a bit in that session.
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Yeah, it was happening with others too.
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I think Golding caught Murray as well in the shootout.
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So I think there's quite a few issues.
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I think the track's just so small.
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I don't know.
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Maybe we should check our shootout laps.
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Because I noticed when on the Saturday... Yeah, I didn't do one at the time.
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Did I?
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I noticed on the Saturday when the car passes you and you're sitting in the pits at the end of pit lane waiting, you wait for like 30 seconds and it seems like an eternity, doesn't it?
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Maybe that cool down that was just so...
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I don't know.
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You wait for 30 seconds?
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That was just my transporter watching you guys.
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You poor boy.
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We've all had shit weekends.
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I thought it was funny.
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I think the gamesmanship was cool and all the banter and stuff online before the race and then Chad's had a shocking race, so it wasn't that funny.
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Did Will even notice?
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I don't think he even noticed it.
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No.
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When you're in the shootout, you're not really looking behind anyway, so you're always looking forward.
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You have no reason to look behind.
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Exactly, yeah.
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Not like in qualifying when we're all going, absolutely.
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Nuts on the outlap.
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Are we talking about the outlap, Thomas?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, not on the outlap.
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Things got a bit racy.
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They might have crashed into me.
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Really?
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No, mate, we didn't touch.
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You 100% we touched.
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No, I was down here inside.
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You kissed, you didn't touch.
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That's because like Saturday you sprayed it at turn one on your lap and then you like hardly let Cam or I through.
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You're like, oh, I'm just going to make it really difficult for them on their laps.
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You've done this a few times this year, haven't you?
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Yeah, I'm a racer, mate.
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No, I don't know.
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He's one of those ones.
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He's an asshole.
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That's just he is.
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Yeah, I literally am.
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We're on our laps and you're just like.
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The funniest part is like I ran off and I'm like, how can I like make people else not have a good lap?
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You generally get done for that.
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Yeah, I didn't though, so.
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Oh, really?
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I'm glad you got done for like passing five cars at the freestyle.
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So what did you guys get up to after the race on Sunday?
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I managed to change my flight Sunday night.
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So that must have been expensive.
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Yeah.
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No, it wasn't actually.
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Like I ended up flying to Brisbane instead of Melbourne and hanging there for a couple of days.
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There was all that drama going on.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it was good.
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It was my first time in Darwin.
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So I spent that Monday morning just having a look around, went to the crocodile like thing in the middle.
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Crocosaurus Cove.
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Yeah, the one in the middle.
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Oh, Crocadillus?
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It's the one in the middle of the city.
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Oh, the marina?
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Yeah.
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Crocosaurus Cove.
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Yeah, the city.
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I went there on Monday.
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What time did you go?
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Ah, what about, as soon as it opened.
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Oh, yeah, I was down in the afternoon.
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Yeah, it was like the crocodiles have calmed down since then.
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And then Chaz and I.
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They've been in captivity forever.
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They don't even bother trying to, like, go for the meat.
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Yeah, Chaz and I went to that lagoon thing, like the lazy river thing with all the waves.
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It's just in the middle of.
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Oh, yeah, down with all the hotels.
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Yeah, so we just went and chilled in the pool and it was good.
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Yeah, Sunday night.
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Wouldn't know anything.
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He wouldn't know anything.
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He forgot.
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He got that shit face.
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No, I actually didn't.
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No, I got there and then I was like, why am I even here?
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There's nothing to celebrate.
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Did he go to Mindle Beach Markets?
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No.
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No, that's cool.
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I went there on Sunday night with my kids and bought some food and mucked around and watched the sunset on the beach.
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And yeah, it was awesome.
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Cool.
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So what do you think on the weekend of the format?
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What are we thinking of the formats at the moment?
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I think for me, like personally, I don't like the hour-long practice session.
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Why not?
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I don't enjoy like, you know, when you do a practice session and you've got 30 minutes and you've done your practice session and then you jump out and you debrief and then the same day you usually have another 30 minute practice session.
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I think from a perspective of trying to develop your car and get better, I feel like that's...
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I'll find it the other way.
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Yeah.
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For me, like learning the track as well, like I feel like I get more out of jumping out of the car, looking at some vision and looking at, you know, some data other than just the whole hour you're just stuck in the race car.
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Like you're able to process it.
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There's a triple crown, but it was two races.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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It's interesting.
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It's a bit weird.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't really get that.
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And then the practice in the morning and stuff, I didn't.
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Don't like the practice in the morning?
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Nah, I didn't.
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You just want to roll straight into qualifying?
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Yeah.
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That's what we normally do.
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I actually like the hour practices.
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Professionals.
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More than the two half-hour ones because the two half-hour ones or two 20-minute ones or whatever they give us is just too hectic.
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You don't have enough time to analyze and sit down and like actually during the session try some things.
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What if instead of that practice on Saturday, we got rid of that, brought quality forward and then we actually just have more racing?
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Do you think we should be doing more racing and less practice?
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Yes and no, like...
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I don't know.
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It's a confusing topic.
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I like doing...
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It's a long way to go.
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Like, we go to Perth and we go to Darwin and we do, like, two six-year races.
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But the idea is you do, like, one race on the Sunday and then that person is the winner of the weekend, if you know what I mean, instead of having two winners.
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But...
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If you know what I mean, there's too many.
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There's like six podium getters, there's two winners, there's too much.
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But like if you win the – so if they do three races, if you win the Sunday morning race – It's nothing.
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It's like winning a heat in a go-kart race.
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Yeah, it's nothing.
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It's nothing.
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Mate, we did something way before you came along.
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It was called a 60-60 race.
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What was that?
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So we did like- Oh, that was great.
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That's like stages in NASCAR almost.
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It was shit house.
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It was terrible.
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So we had like a race start.
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We qualified for a race start and then race start to finish.
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That was the first 60.
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And then you park it.
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Then you park the car.
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Then you go out again and then race for another 60 Ks, which is that determines the winner.
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So you do all this shit in between.
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It was just pointless.
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It was just the biggest, stupidest thing I've ever been a part of.
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Is that when you had like double file restarts as well?
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I remember they brought that into Adelaide and then Brydie got rolled.
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They were the best.
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There was so much chaos.
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Yeah, it was an acceleration zone.
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That's right.
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It was so much chaos going on.
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It was actually fun though.
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Yeah.
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But it is fun.
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I can imagine him on the restart.
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He'd be first by turn one every time.
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Do you not agree, though?
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When there's a bit of, like, when it's unfamiliar, the racing for some reason, because everyone's exploring and stuff like that, it is more exciting usually.
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A little bit.
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The AGP races are always quite entertaining because they're different.
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It's something we're not used to.
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It's a hard track.
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It's a very hard track.
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So what if we just scrap practice altogether?
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Just roll out qualifying.
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I had this conversation the other day with someone, and they were up for it.
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I think it was with Brody.
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Really?
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He's like, yeah.
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Sure, I'd love to do it.
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That'd be fun.
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I think doing that at specific events, what if you had more test days, but then just rolled into quality?
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And more test days, yeah.
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I don't think we've got enough test days.
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But we did just supplement.
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Yeah, dude, we've got three test days.
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It's ridiculous.
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And one of them.
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Testing at other places as well.
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Unless you're a rookie.
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You get the two-year rookie card.
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Yeah, unless you finish in the top 10.
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Don't get me started on that one either.
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That makes no sense either.
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What's that?
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If you finish in the top 10 as a rookie.
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Oh, yeah, you don't get to.
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You're not a rookie for the next year, but if you don't, you're still a rookie for two years, if you know what I mean, which makes absolutely no sense.
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And then you get the extra days.
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Yeah, so you become a rookie twice.
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So the first year of being a rookie, I think you can go to other tracks, but the second year, if you're still a rookie, you can't.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, it's all.
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So you're not a rookie, really.
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No, you're not, but you get the extra days.
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You get one day somewhere.
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Oh, do you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think we need more tyres for the test days.
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This is confusing.
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My last few test days I've just unused.
15:00
Used, yeah.
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Just used tyres.
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That's how it always has been though.
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To be honest, I thought I was rolling in this year and every test day was greens and it was going to be mega.
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No, it's not.
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And then I turned up at like my first practice and got like two sets of greens and I'm like,
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oh, that's it.
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Yeah, where's the rest of this?
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So you get none.
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You get zero.
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It's just a cascading thing, I think.
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But it's like how much is it for everyone?
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It's the cheapest part on the car.
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So put the formats aside.
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Calendar this year, obviously, is 12 rounds.
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You know, I would say not enough racing.
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But if we go to 2025...
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You know, they're looking at 14 rounds.
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What do we think about that?
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Man, the more rounds you do, the better.
15:39
Yeah.
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100%.
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Like that's one thing when you go talk to sponsors is they're not happy about it.
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You only race 12 times a year.
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So it's only 12 times a year you're on TV.
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And when they sponsor you, they want you to be on TV all the time.
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So the more rounds you do, the better.
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regardless of who pays for it.
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Yeah, agreed.
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It's something they have to do.
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I think going back to New Zealand this year was a big, like, sort of saver for us as well.
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Like, it was cool to go back.
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And even, like, incorporating that tractor town there was amazing and seeing the fans, seeing what it means to New Zealand as a whole.
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It's the engagement.
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And like you said, Davey, the more races you do, the more relevant you're going to be, right?
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Yep, the more sponsorship dollars you can command.
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Every weekend.
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Not every weekend, but the season runs...
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Generally every weekend from April, China, September.
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Yeah.
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If you're in Victoria, which you are.
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So if we up this calendar, what tracks would you like to add?
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Oh, dude, like I'd love to go back to Phillip Island, Winton.
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I think Winton's would be good.
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Wakefield Park.
16:38
No, not Wakefield Park.
16:39
I think QR.
16:39
QR.
16:40
QR could fuck her off.
16:43
That place is a shithole.
16:44
QR.
16:45
QR's good.
16:46
I hate that place so much.
16:47
Used to be my test track, so...
16:49
I hate it.
16:50
Let's bury it.
16:52
Tony Quinn, are you listening?
16:55
Philip, I agree.
16:57
I reckon if we could get there with like the Superbikes or something, like that would be the go.
17:02
We've done Superbike like four and two there.
17:04
It's unreal.
17:04
It works really well.
17:05
I need to bring back more street tracks, I reckon.
17:07
100%.
17:08
We are going to Perth, actually.
17:09
Yeah, I read that.
17:10
What do you think about that?
17:11
That's pretty cool.
17:11
I'm a bit gutted.
17:12
Got my first one in Super 2 at the normal Perth track, so...
17:16
It's all about you, isn't it?
17:17
It's just all about you, right?
17:18
Yeah, exactly.
17:19
Yeah, I'm looking forward to going to Perth because, you know, street races are awesome.
17:23
Anytime we do a street race.
17:24
Apparently it's around the stadium as well.
17:25
It's around like the casino area.
17:27
Burswood Park.
17:28
Sorry?
17:29
Burswood Park?
17:29
Burswood Park, yeah.
17:30
So anytime we do a street race, like our cars love it.
17:33
They look cool.
17:34
The town gets behind it.
17:35
It's going to be awesome.
17:36
I can't wait.
17:37
So that's 2026?
17:38
Six, yeah.
17:39
Because I don't know if you know, but getting to Wannaroo is a bit of a pain in the ass.
17:43
It is, yeah.
17:44
And it's like miles out of the city.
17:45
It's hard for people to, I mean, look, it's a fun track to drive and it's great for spectators.
17:49
It's just hard to get to.
17:50
Exactly.
17:51
It is a bit of a machiné.
17:53
Yes.
17:53
Yeah, especially because a lot of people want to go and have a beer and, you know, that sort of stuff, and it's very hard to organise getting there.
18:00
We usually do a ride day on the Monday, and that's always hectic getting back out there once there's some traffic.
18:05
Yeah.
18:06
Not ideal.
18:07
But round one, imagine round one.
18:09
How good would that be?
18:17
Paddock Whispers.
18:18
What's the latest?
18:19
What's happening?
18:20
Because I feel like you'd know.
18:22
Honestly, I don't know anything.
18:23
I haven't talked to anyone.
18:24
Really?
18:24
I usually get all my information from Michael Caruso, though.
18:27
Really?
18:28
I do, yeah.
18:28
I reckon JC's got the most goss.
18:31
I don't know if he actually has the goss or he just makes it up.
18:33
He makes it up.
18:34
Because some of his stories are a little bit far-fetched.
18:37
He's a salesman now.
18:38
Have you noticed?
18:39
Oh, he actually says that's what I was asking.
18:42
Do you reckon there's going to be many changes next year?
18:45
As in?
18:45
Drivers and stuff like that?
18:47
Drivers.
18:48
Oh, there always is.
18:49
There's always a lot of movement.
18:50
But possibly a new tyre they're talking about.
18:53
Yeah, that'd be good.
18:54
So I don't know if it's the same brand or different brand or different construction or whatnot, but I don't know.
19:00
I actually don't mind the tyres.
19:02
Everyone hates them, but I like them.
19:05
Just like you like the one-hour practice and anything that Ryan doesn't like, you like.
19:10
What about Brodie?
19:10
What do you reckon he could end up next year?
19:12
Obviously, he's definitely going somewhere.
19:14
So we all sat on the podcast on episode zero and said he's not coming back racing this year.
19:19
And how wrong were we?
19:20
We were very wrong.
19:21
He turned up the very next race.
19:23
We did also say it would be nice.
19:25
It would be great to have him back.
19:26
Yeah, we did say that.
19:28
And then he's too good.
19:29
Yeah, yeah.
19:30
Should have stayed at home.
19:31
But honestly, I assume a lot of team owners will have a run at him.
19:35
Yeah.
19:37
But, yeah, honestly, I've got no idea.
19:39
Absolutely no idea.
19:41
Do you know anything?
19:42
No.
19:42
Who do you talk to?
19:43
Just Cam.
19:44
Just Waters.
19:45
What's he know?
19:46
Not much.
19:46
Not much.
19:47
He loved his time in NASCAR.
19:49
Did he?
19:49
Yeah.
19:49
Yeah.
19:50
So, yeah, he drove over there.
19:51
I don't watch NASCAR except I watch those guys.
19:54
Yeah.
19:55
Same as me.
19:56
He said it was pretty funny, like the driving standards in, like,
20:00
because they mainly race ovals.
20:02
The guy that took him out, he, like, spoke to him before the start of the race and he was like, man, I'm no good on road courses, eh?
20:08
And then, like, an hour later, he just harpoons, like, six cars.
20:12
Have you seen all the memes about it?
20:14
Oh, yeah.
20:14
Send them to Cam.
20:15
Send them to me?
20:16
I don't understand it.
20:17
Oh, okay.
20:17
I'll send them to you, yeah.
20:18
Sorry.
20:19
There's some good supercar memes lately, eh?
20:21
Yeah.
20:24
There's an Instagram page we don't need to talk about.
20:27
Which one's that we're not allowed to talk about?
20:31
No, no, don't.
20:32
You're like the kid in school who's like the Instigator.
20:36
Yeah, you go wrong.
20:37
Well, there's obviously this man to become memes.
20:39
He's good.
20:40
He's good.
20:41
He's quite funny.
20:41
You get a lot of that, eh?
20:43
Yeah, he comes to the track sometimes.
20:44
Yeah, he's a nice guy.
20:46
Yeah.
20:46
So next, oh, look at you.
20:48
What is this?
20:50
The way you are, you won't be too far from me later in life.
20:53
Yeah, you're closer to Dave than you think.
20:56
I reckon you're like the dark horse.
20:57
Bruce Stewart always tells me.
20:59
Yeah.
20:59
Bruce Stewart who runs WAU, he always says, Ryan Wood reminds me of a little Reynolds.
21:05
I'm like, poor Ryan.
21:06
Well, it is Ryan Reynolds.
21:08
Ryan Reynolds.
21:09
Ryan Reynolds.
21:09
Ryan Randall Reynolds.
21:10
Yeah, it's RRR.
21:11
This is the new podcast.
21:12
There's Triple J, Triple M. There is actually RRR.
21:15
This is being filmed in Triple M's studio.
21:17
There is a RRR, isn't there?
21:18
There is a RRR.
21:21
I don't know.
21:22
But this is why.
21:22
Yeah, it is, yeah.
21:23
It's like rest, relaxation and.
21:26
Community radio.
21:26
Is that what you drink?
21:27
Community radio.
21:28
Yep.
21:29
I'm just an old hippie.
21:31
Townsville, the next round.
21:33
How are we feeling?
21:34
That is just one of the good events on the calendar, I reckon.
21:38
I love going up there.
21:39
Yeah, it's a really cool place.
21:40
Very hard track.
21:41
Hard on tyres.
21:42
Yep.
21:42
Tough race, 250Ks.
21:43
Probably 50Ks too long.
21:47
We're just talking about having longer races.
21:49
Yeah, like, no, you have long ones, but don't have, like, super long ones.
21:52
I agree.
21:53
There's enough deg in that track that you can get it over and done with within.
21:56
The last 50Ks doesn't really change much unless there's a safety car and then there's that option of do you pit, do you lose your track position, do you want to come and put tyres on.
22:03
100%, yeah.
22:04
Yeah, so.
22:05
Townsville's cool, eh?
22:06
Yeah.
22:07
And we've got another track to Townsville.
22:09
That's what I'm going to call it.
22:10
Track to Townsville.
22:11
Townsville.
22:11
I went up there a couple of weeks ago for some stuff.
22:15
Oh, yeah?
22:16
What stuff?
22:16
No, just like promotionals.
22:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:19
And like the track was getting built and I did the route.
22:23
The trek to downtown route.
22:26
The route.
22:27
Route route.
22:28
And?
22:29
No, it was cool.
22:30
It's cool, yeah.
22:30
It should be good.
22:32
Still not as good as the New Zealand one.
22:33
Yeah, New Zealand one was by far the best.
22:35
I reckon the cops were pretty loose there.
22:36
Well, because anything in Australia we tend to ruin with rules and regulations because that's just what Australians do.
22:41
We love to make a rule.
22:43
So when we did the New Zealand one, it was mad fun.
22:45
I did 180Ks going to town.
22:47
Yeah, it was pretty fast.
22:48
Nick was behind me.
22:49
He caught me.
22:50
He did like 195.
22:50
You were loose.
22:51
You were so loose.
22:52
I was hanging it outside.
22:53
People doing yoga hats in front of the crowd.
22:55
It was cool as.
22:55
But then they have, like, we sit down at Darwin, you know.
22:59
And the coppers, though.
22:59
And the coppers stands up and go, I'm going to ruin your fun.
23:03
I'm like, of course.
23:04
Yeah.
23:04
Of course you did.
23:05
I feel like the way back,
23:07
They were a lot less.
23:08
More lean.
23:09
Yeah, they were very loose.
23:10
They were like, just go three wide.
23:12
We were three wide on the highway.
23:14
I'm like, I've got indicators.
23:16
There are three lanes on the highway.
23:18
Yeah, it wasn't anything bad.
23:21
I think Brownie passed a whole heap of cars on the way back.
23:24
He did, yeah.
23:24
Yeah.
23:25
It's because their things keep overheating.
23:27
Kind of like on the racetrack too.
23:30
Actually, he didn't pass anyone.
23:32
Oh, actually, no.
23:33
They've sort of been dusting everyone, haven't they?
23:35
Yeah.
23:36
That was a big win.
23:37
Well, both of them.
23:38
All of them.
23:39
It's like 18 seconds up the road on third.
23:41
Like, the thing that gets me is how strong they are.
23:44
All the time.
23:45
All the time.
23:45
Yeah, it's like we, at Perth, we were like, all right, we must have a bit of momentum.
23:50
And, like, we should be solid now.
23:51
And then we rolled it.
23:52
We were the same.
23:53
Yeah.
23:53
We were the same.
23:54
But they just seemed to be able to do it.
23:56
Weekend, week out.
23:57
Like, a bad weekend for them is like, okay.
23:59
But they were like gutted at Perth because they – At third or at seventh.
24:03
Like Fenny's like, we'll bounce back.
24:05
And he had like a fifth and a seventh.
24:06
And I've always got that.
24:07
I would have been like, you know.
24:09
I know.
24:10
Oh, sorry.
24:11
So it's, yeah, it's interesting.
24:13
But that's the mindset once you have, you know, that confidence, the mindset.
24:17
I think it breeds in their culture as well.
24:19
A hundred percent, yeah.
24:19
It starts from the top down and it's been bred into their organization over –
24:24
A beatable.
24:24
Generations.
24:25
Yeah.
24:26
Not say generations, but many, many years.
24:28
So if there's one thing... And they also build these cars.
24:31
That's true.
24:32
It's their car we're racing.
24:33
That is true.
24:34
So if there's one thing that you could change in supercars, one thing, what would it be?
24:40
Just one thing?
24:41
Just, well, give me top three, if you've got three things.
24:43
I reckon the supercars theme song...
24:46
Yeah, let's get the piano man to rewrite it.
24:49
I could.
24:49
What do you think?
24:51
No.
24:51
What are you going to go for?
24:54
The Seekers or something?
24:55
I just, like, you need someone, like, real dramatic, I reckon.
24:58
Like, the F1 one sounds like they're about to go into battle.
25:00
Yeah.
25:01
It's tough.
25:02
Yeah, it's just cool.
25:03
Yeah, that's what I feel like we need.
25:05
Just a good theme song, eh?
25:07
We just need a good theme song.
25:08
Okay, let's not talk about the intro to the actual racing.
25:12
What I'm talking about.
25:13
Oh, sorry.
25:14
Yeah, the actual racing.
25:15
Yeah.
25:16
Yeah, okay.
25:16
Maybe you haven't been around long enough.
25:18
Nah.
25:18
I can't agree.
25:19
Davey, you've been around long enough.
25:20
What would I change?
25:21
Yeah.
25:21
What would you change?
25:22
I'd probably change a few things.
25:24
I'd love to try a summer series.
25:26
Oh, yeah.
25:27
So get out of winter sport, get out of AFL, get out of NRL and go over summer.
25:35
I hate turning up to the track when it's freezing cold and I reckon the punters would too.
25:39
So you just got really cricket, that's all your rival.
25:42
Yeah, and people love cricket but they sort of watch it seldomly.
25:45
They watch it because there's probably nothing else to watch.
25:47
Do you like cricket?
25:48
I like cricket, yeah.
25:49
Do you?
25:49
No.
25:50
No, you're a New Zealander, no.
25:51
Do you like cricket?
25:51
I do, yeah.
25:52
Yeah, but you don't sit there and watch the entire game, do you?
25:55
You sort of...
25:56
Yeah.
25:56
Sometimes they do.
25:57
Watching it now.
25:58
The real question is, do people watch the whole race?
26:02
Yeah.
26:03
I don't know.
26:03
Obviously, Bathurst, they don't.
26:06
Yeah, but I reckon...
26:09
The race is too long.
26:10
But that's the thing.
26:11
I reckon people go... Watch the start.
26:13
Unfortunately, yeah, it's a bit predictable now where it's like we get to a stage where it's like 20, 40 laps and then it's like, all right.
26:22
I think the cars need to be tougher.
26:23
Yeah.
26:24
Yeah, you can say all that, but the fundamental problem with our sport is, which has always been the same, we'd have qualifying.
26:31
which sets the grid.
26:32
So the fastest car starts at the front.
26:36
And then there's no passing.
26:36
It's like, of course, you've let the bike start.
26:38
Have you guys ever watched BTCC?
26:40
No.
26:40
Oh, yeah.
26:41
Like, BTCC now, like, they do race three as a reverse top ten.
26:46
So all the fastest guys have to start tenth.
26:49
And they never win the reverse grid race because, you know, the guys that are actually tenth.
26:54
Maybe they could do a reverse 24 race when I qualify down the back.
26:57
I'm not saying do a reverse top 24 race.
27:02
You could do something crazy like that.
27:04
I think doing it maybe somewhere.
27:05
That's pure entertainment, really.
27:08
Yeah, but then it also... Like reverse 10, reverse 15, whatever it is like.
27:11
But what I'm trying to say is the BTCC championship at the last round always comes down to like three or four drivers battling for the championship.
27:20
Unfortunately, we basically have a champion before the last round now.
27:25
We could crown him in round one if we wanted to.
27:27
I think, unfortunately, having stuff that can go wrong and making entertainment helps the championship become, you know, a championship chase because Will Brown starts 10th and then gets in a crash lap one because he's in the melee.
27:40
Because he has Ryan Wood start in 11th going, oh, he's got heaps to lose.
27:43
I'm going to launch him.
27:45
My teammate's in the championship.
27:46
I'm going to help him.
27:47
Watch me go around the outside of five at this restart.
27:49
But you know what I mean?
27:50
I get it.
27:51
It's a good point.
27:52
It would be interesting.
27:53
I know it's hard from the team's... What about the tyre?
27:57
I reckon the tyres... Summer season, yes, no.
28:01
Yeah, I'd give it a go because we sort of get out of... Because that's something we don't do.
28:05
No, we've always done the same, and I think summer season would work.
28:10
I agree.
28:11
And go back to free-to-air.
28:12
When I first started in the sport, we were with Channel 7 and it always felt heaps bigger.
28:16
And as soon as we went to... Well, it is.
28:17
As soon as...
28:18
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but as soon as we went to paid TV, it always felt like it diminished a lot of our audience.
28:25
Because not everyone has paid TV.
28:28
So there's only a third of Aussies that have it.
28:30
So instantly you've...
28:33
less than half your audience.
28:34
I agree.
28:35
That'd be more rounds on free to air.
28:37
And then there's more rounds, so I'd love to do more rounds.
28:40
And what about our penalty system?
28:41
What's wrong with our penalty system?
28:43
I'm just asking.
28:44
What do you think?
28:45
Do you want it to be harsher or lighter?
28:49
Yeah, that's what I'm asking.
28:54
Yeah.
28:54
Do you think too many times you might go for a move and think, oh, shit.
28:57
I'm not thinking about the penalty at all.
29:00
Do you think about the penalty?
29:01
No, I'm just asking the question.
29:03
I don't think about the penalty or what could happen if I stuff him over, no.
29:07
You're always thinking of trying to
29:10
pass the bike.
29:11
I reckon the penalties on track are usually pretty...
29:14
They're pretty fair.
29:15
Yeah, pretty fair.
29:16
I reckon some of the other stuff, like the pit lane or, you know, if something goes wrong, like even the... Not going to lie.
29:22
Even the one with Chaz at Perth.
29:25
Oh, the one in the pit lane.
29:26
Yeah, like that's not going to really change the race, you know?
29:30
I think that's just more from the safety.
29:32
That's why that one's there.
29:33
Pit lane's a bit different because there's a lot of safety involved.
29:35
I know, but like... Not happy about it.
29:38
Nah, like...
29:41
I just, yeah, find that stuff like that.
29:42
Didn't he get five seconds?
29:44
Chaz?
29:45
Yeah, he got five for that and then.
29:47
But did you see it?
29:48
It was just like a slight rub, yeah.
29:50
Yeah, like obviously if you've come out and half turned old mate in the pit lane and he's hit a parked tyre, then.
29:55
Which actually has happened with Chaz.
29:58
With a cast roll car, actually.
30:00
Rick Kelly?
30:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:02
Alex could have done that again.
30:03
Exactly.
30:03
Like obviously you.
30:05
But you're trying to disincentivise everyone by giving them a small penalty saying if you do it worse, there's going to be, there's consequences and you're going to actually hurt someone in pit lane.
30:14
So I understand it.
30:15
Yeah, I understand it as well.
30:16
Bit lane's almost separate to what happens on the track.
30:18
Yeah, I guess.
30:19
But, yeah, from my perspective, if you want to open up a little bit.
30:24
Open speed limit and pit lane.
30:26
Yeah, yeah.
30:26
Go back to the 80s.
30:27
I think someone said that ages ago.
30:29
Yeah, like 80k, yeah.
30:31
I'd kill someone for sure.
30:33
That wouldn't be good.
30:34
I'd struggle to get it stopped.
30:35
You know sometimes if the car stalls.
30:36
40k is almost too far.
30:38
You know sometimes when it stalls and then you've got to start it back up and then the pit limiter turns off.
30:42
And you're like, oh, shit.
30:46
I did that a few times, like, leaving my box.
30:48
I can imagine you'd do that.
30:50
What's something else you'd change?
30:52
What's something you'd change?
30:54
Yeah, I think the format's probably near to shake up.
30:57
The tyre, I don't know.
30:59
It's a tricky one.
31:01
You need to make more heroes and villains.
31:03
I agree.
31:04
Maybe that's where.
31:04
We're all too nice to each other.
31:06
We need to actually hate each other.
31:08
Because when I grew up watching like Scaife hate Ingle.
31:11
Yeah, Murph hate Ambrose.
31:13
Yeah, it was awesome.
31:14
You hate Scott McLaughlin.
31:17
We knew that.
31:18
That's my hero, mate.
31:19
I never hated him.
31:20
But I think, sorry, just the format thing, what about like a Wednesday night race somewhere?
31:27
And then like, you know, just a day race.
31:30
So like you've practiced, you're qualified and then have a Wednesday night race at like Sydney.
31:35
And in that same week on Friday or Saturday, Sunday, you have the same.
31:39
So you want us to hang around for a whole week.
31:41
But you get there.
31:42
We usually get there on Wednesday, do we not?
31:45
Yeah, sometimes.
31:45
Yeah, not everyone, but.
31:47
Most of us.
31:48
Yeah, a lot of people worked during the week too.
31:51
Yeah, but you imagine, no, but you imagine like the kids have finished piano lessons and now they're going to go and watch supercars on a Wednesday night.
31:59
Oh, and they're back on Saturday, Sunday.
32:06
So why would you come on Wednesday when you can just go on the weekend when you've got free time?
32:11
Exactly, your point's just stupid.
32:12
No, it's not.
32:13
Trust me.
32:14
I have relevance.
32:15
I'm just not executing it right now.
32:17
Clearly.
32:18
You'd make an unreal politician, I reckon.
32:20
I reckon people will agree.
32:21
Tell us what Chaz is like as a teammate.
32:23
Yeah, Chaz is good, obviously.
32:24
Does he help you and, like, says, you know, break here, this is what I'm trying to do?
32:29
He's pretty blunt, to be honest.
32:30
Like, he's, like, you know, you guys know him.
32:33
He's pretty larrikin.
32:35
He's one of the dudes.
32:35
Yeah, but he's a serious competitor.
32:36
But, like, I probably underestimated how...
32:39
serious he is when it comes to the racing side of it, which I am as well, but it's like, yeah, he's hit.
32:46
There's only one result he wants to achieve, like the rest of us, is win.
32:49
And it's even, you know, Perth was a great weekend for us, but because he made a mistake on that Sunday race, I couldn't believe how...
32:57
How hard he took it.
32:58
Yeah, yeah.
32:58
And that's quite... Did he cry?
33:00
No.
33:01
No.
33:02
It's an eye-opener for me as a rookie, though, because it gives me perspective of how much it means to not only us as a driver, but our team and everything like that.
33:09
So just learning that side of it's been cool.
33:11
But yeah, it's... Take your job seriously.
33:13
You're probably good enough.
33:14
Someone better to learn off, to be honest.
33:15
Yeah, it's good to learn off someone that's, you know, at the peak of their career, I think.
33:20
So...
33:21
As a rookie, it's pretty cool.
33:22
How do you go on debrief?
33:23
Do you have to take a lunch, pack lunch?
33:25
Could you go for that long?
33:25
Yeah, I'm pretty, you know.
33:29
Cars got understeer and push or we're slow and then Chaz jumps on but Chaz is on Zoom so he doesn't live in Melbourne.
33:39
Can't Chaz get to Melbourne?
33:40
Get to Melbourne, yeah.
33:41
I'm surprised.
33:42
If I ran a team, I'd want my drivers to live where my team was based.
33:46
Yeah.
33:46
Because it just makes more sense.
33:48
It does.
33:49
Spend more time with the boys.
33:51
They all push harder for you.
33:53
Yeah.
33:53
Chez, to be fair, does come down and hang out.
33:56
Yeah, it's good.
33:56
And you know what he's like.
33:57
He's an easy bloke to get along with.
33:58
Yeah, and I hate Zoom.
33:59
Zoom sucks.
34:00
Yeah.
34:01
I don't know how to use it.
34:03
It's tough.
34:04
I struggle with that stuff.
34:05
Well, thanks for the insight with Chaz.
34:08
We all know he's a ripper bloke.
34:09
And, yeah, we all kind of know.
34:11
And he's a father now, new father.
34:12
And he is a father.
34:13
Very true.
34:14
Very true.
34:14
Takes that seriously, too.
34:16
Well done.
34:16
That kind of takes us to the end of our episode one, official episode.
34:21
Yeah, official one.
34:22
So, we'll hope this one actually makes it easier.
34:25
Hopefully, number one comes out.
34:26
Episode zero.
34:27
I don't think it was that loose, this one.
34:28
I think it was pretty good.
34:30
It was going to be okay.
34:30
But, no, thanks, boys, for being on the show.
34:33
Just want to give a shout-out to Rusty's Garage and Supercars, the Cool Down Lap podcast as well.
34:39
So, a big thank you to them.
34:40
And thanks to everyone who listened to this podcast.
34:43
Where do we send our invoice?
34:44
I hope we will.
34:45
weren't too loose.
34:46
Stay tuned for the next one and we'll see you all in Townsville.
34:50
Let's go get them.
34:51
Hopefully you guys have a great weekend but not as good as me.
34:54
Good luck.
34:55
Thank you.
34:55
See you on the trail.
34:56
Cheers.
34:56
Take care boys.
34:57
See you on the road slick.