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"Come and See :: Living Water" | Sunday Service | September 6th, 2026 · Wesley at FSU & TSC

• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh Lord, can we move to the scriptures?
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, amen.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to continue a sermon series and actually finished it this morning that we started a couple of weeks ago called Come and See.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to turn to the neighbor next to you, say, Come and see.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Turn to the other one, say what the Lord has done.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Come and see what the Lord has done.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: A couple of weeks ago, we talked about Jesus' invitation to us when we are thirsty, that God, that He is there to quench our thirst.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's His invitation, come all who are thirsty.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: I encouraged you, and I'm going to encourage you a little bit more this morning.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: I encourage you not to put on a face.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: Don't try to say, like, no, I'm good.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't need any water.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, this is the man who gives living water coming to you and saying, hey, come and taste of the goodness of my grace.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: And you're being like, no, I'm fine.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fine.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fine.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: So the invitation is for you to come.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: The last week we talked about abiding in Christ.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about abiding in Christ.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: And this week we're actually going to take it a few chapters later in God's in John's Gospel, God's Gospel too.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: John's Gospel to talk about a woman who then says, come and see after she has an experience with Jesus.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to turn to the fourth chapter of John.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Here now, the reading, and I will tell you, it's long.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: So settle in, pull out your Bible if you got it, read it up on the screen, pay attention.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Now the reading of God's Word.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was making more disciples and baptizing more than John, although Jesus' disciples were baptizing, not Jesus himself.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: Therefore he left Judea and went back to Galilee.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: Here's where the story really begins.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus had to go through Samaria.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: He came to a Samaritan city called Sikr, where which was near the land of Jacob and had given to his son Joseph.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: Jacob's well was there.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus was tired from his journey.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: It puts Jesus in this tangible space.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: This is the creator, this is the word made flesh.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is God Himself, and he's tired.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: Me too.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: He was tired from his journey.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: And so he sat down at the well, and it was about noon.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: A Samaritan woman came to the well to draw water.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus said to her, Give me some water to drink.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: His disciples had gone into the city to buy him some food.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: And the Samaritan asked, Why do you, a Jewish man, ask for something to drink from me, a Samaritan woman?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then the author tells us, Jews and Samaritans didn't associate with each other.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus responded, If you recognized God's gift, and who is saying to you, give me some water to drink, you would be asking him, and he would be giving you living water.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_01: You see how he throws it around like that?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: I love this dude.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_01: The woman said to him, Sir, you don't have a bucket, and the well is deep.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus often talks at this level, and they're down at this level, right?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: We'll come back to that.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_01: Where do you where would you get this living water?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_01: You aren't greater than our father Jacob, are you?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, she has no idea.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_01: He gave this well to us and he drank from it himself, as did his sons and his livestock.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_01: And Jesus answered, Everyone who drinks from this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks from the water that I will give you never will be thirsty again.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: The water that I give will become in those who drink it a spring of water that bubbles up into eternal life.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: The woman said to him, Sir, give me this water so that I will never be thirsty and will never need to come here to draw water.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: She's listening to week one.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus said to her, Go get your husband and come back here.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: The woman replied, I don't have a husband.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: And he says, You're right to say, I don't have a husband, Jesus answered.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: You've had five husbands.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: And the man you are now with isn't your husband.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_01: You've spoken the truth.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to skip a couple of verses here where they have this really prophetic uh philosophical discussion about who he is, and it's beautiful, but we're going to go down to 25.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: The woman said, I know that the Messiah is coming, the one who is called to Christ.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: When he comes, he will teach everything to us.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Jesus said to her, I am the one who speaks with you.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: Just then Jesus' disciples arrived and were shocked that he was talking with a woman.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: But no one asked, What do you want?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: or why are you talking with her?
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: The woman put down her water jar and went into the city.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: And she said to the people, Come and see a man who has told me everything that I have done.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Could this man be the Christ?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: Let's pray over the preaching of God's word.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh God, your word is a lamp into our feet and it's a light into our path.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: May it speak to us and speak through us for the establishment of your kingdom on this earth.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh God, may the words of my mouth and the meditations of all of our hearts be acceptable in your sight and in your sight alone, O God.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: You are our rock and you're our redeemer.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we love you because you first loved us.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: We pray this in your holy name.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: Amen.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to use this example and I want no judgment.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Are we with this?
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: Taylor Swift.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so she comes out as a 14-year-old and she writes absolutely beautiful, amazing.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a fan, okay?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Early music in her debut album, but it's what style?
• 6:41
  unknown: Country.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Country.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then she does a couple more country albums.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then what happens is she gets into her red era.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then she gets to her best album of all time, which is 1989.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: I will take no discussions here.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: And she starts to write what type of music?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Pop music, yeah.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then she plays a little bit in her next album with like more grungy pop and a little bit of rock, right?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then she gets, and then COVID happens a little bit later on if she goes through the pop feast and she does a little bit of singer-songwriter stuff, right?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: She does, I mean, sing good singer-songwriters will tell you that Taylor Swift, singer-songwriter is not singer-songwriter, but whatever.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's Taylor Swift.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: And so she does which two albums?
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: See, thank you for no judgment of this.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then she she continues to down this path of changing a little bit of who she is and what she does every time.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I've been thinking about this a lot because of the passing of Dolly Parton.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Many of you might know that Dolly Parton wore famously wore wigs, right?
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, one person asked her, like, how long does it take you to do your hair?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: And she says, How should I know I'm never there?
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Because her, she always wore these beautiful, and she was very rich, they were nice, these beautiful wigs.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: And she had a lot of work done to her body.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_01: And she would often she would often say, This is this is a direct quote of her, she would often say, like, it takes a lot of money to look this cheap.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's what she said.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I I've been thinking about it a lot recently because her goddaughter, who is Miley Cyrus, decided a couple weeks ago that she was gonna go by.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember this?
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you guys should read the news more.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna drop Cyrus and do the Madonna thing, do the Prince thing, and just go by Miley.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting because Miley started as what character?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hannah Montana, in which she was literally playing multiple characters, right?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then she came out and she did the absolute banger of party in the USA, right?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: And she had this kind of pop post-Disney thing.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then she decided, oh, well, I'm actually gonna be super post-Disney.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: And she releases an album called Bangers, yeah, in which she completely reinvents herself.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: I find that this is so common in society, particularly in Hollywood, and particularly in uh in the places where like we're trying to feed off of the next movement or whatever, that we're always wanting to reinvent ourselves.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: When I went to seminary, I had always gone by Bryant's because that's my name.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: And some of you know this, some of you don't, but my first name is actually James, because I have the pleasure of having been told I would go by my middle name since birth.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's a great curse I will never do to any of my children, because I was the guy every time that the substitute teacher was there, who'd be like James Manning, and I'm like, okay, that's me, right?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's embarrassing because everybody knows you as Bryant.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: But I said when I'll go to seminary, I would go by a different name because I wanted to try something else.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: I had a friend named John Carl.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: I had a friend named Laura Allen, not Laura, Laura Allen, John Carl, Laura Allen, we called him JC.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: We had a band called JC and Disciples.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, come on.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so I was like, I'll go by James Bryant.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and let me tell you when you're going to uh go by a new name, you should learn to respond to it when people call you by it.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so, like, literally the first week, I was like, I'm gonna go by James Bryant, introduce myself as James Bryant.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then when somebody called me James Bryant, I was like, I didn't answer, you know?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, so it didn't last very long.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: I see this all the time in college.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because when you come to college, you have the opportunity to reinvent yourself.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Start over, become a new person, decide whatever the next thing, the next era that you're gonna be in is.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Reinvent yourself.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Have you ever thought about how prevalent that can be in your own life?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or how many times when you meet a new person, you have this kind of guarded mindset about who you are and how you're going to introduce yourself to them so that you know whether that you know you guys are gonna be on the same political side or you're gonna like the same football team or whatever, right?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have this place where I'm gonna like edit myself, I'm gonna curate myself in order to fit whatever this person is doing.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: I find that to be pretty common, particularly in college.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Why is it that we always edit ourselves?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Are we scared?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Are we nervous?
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is it because the old way wasn't working?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna try something new.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Why is it that we always feel like we need to edit ourselves?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: I would make a claim that that's because our world has shaped us to be more designed and reactive to shame rather than grace.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: There's a dichotomy here in which shame exists on some sort of spectrum toward grace.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be up in the screen in a second.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm killing time till it's there.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, here we go: shame and grace.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I find this interesting here because of the way that this is often preached, and because of the way we often read this story about the Samaritan woman.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: So let's go through some of the details real quick.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus is walking and he is tired.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember that part?
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus is tired and it says he goes, he has to go through Samaria.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Now, most biblical scholars, geographical scholars will tell you that he didn't have to go through Samaria.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: So that but he does go through Samaria.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: That part's true.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: Samaria is a place where uh the people exist that are against what we would call the Israelite movement and the Jewish people at the time.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: They had similar practices and similar uh belief systems, but they they disagreed about some heavy things like where to put the center of their of like the center of worship for them.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: They they had some big disagreements, and that had blown into kind of this big division over time.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so he ends up in enemy territory, right?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Foreign land, and he sits down because he's tired at the well, Jacob's well, a place that gives you water, and he sees this woman.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, some commentators will tell you that she's there at noon because she doesn't want to be seen, because she's scared about who would see her and who would know her.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: You may have heard that before, and that's okay.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but he anyway, they ended up in this conversation with each other, and they're talking.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: And like I said, he's talking at this level and she's at this level.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Hey, if if somebody were to ask you that and it was him who asked you that, wouldn't you ask for the water of life?
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, But, sir, you have no bucket, right?
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she's talking down here, and he's up here, and he's trying to communicate with her, commune even with her.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: He starts this conversation, and then we get to the difficult part.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember it?
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: A few of you groaned, right?
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: A few of you groaned when we got to this part because he says, Go and get your husband and come back here.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: And the woman replied, I don't have a husband.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then he says, You are right to say I don't have a husband, Jesus answered.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: You've had five husbands, and the man you were with now isn't your husband.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: You've spoken the truth.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Now that sounds a little shameful, doesn't it?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like at first, it sounds a little shameful.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Now, a couple things, and this is why I want to draw your attention to this.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oftentimes, this passage is interpreted to say that this woman is a prostitute, that she has uh slept around with a bunch of men.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of the way this is interpreted.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: The problem with that interpretation is that John doesn't ever tell us that.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't exist here, it's not in the text.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's a lot of reasons, including a lot of power dynamics, that she may have had several husbands that may not have even been her fault, including death or divorce that was not her choice, where he just left.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: But we often are quick to make judgment calls on this woman, aren't we?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: At least that's what most of the time we read it.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know why she is the way she is, we don't know why she has the amount of men that she has.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: John does not tell us.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like if he wanted us to know, he would have said it.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: What we do know is that Jesus sees her and he knows her.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: He sees her and he knows her.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: I would say oftentimes when we're in our own sin, when we're on our own brokenness, when we have our own problems, we're worried about shame because we're worried about being exposed.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Are we?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: We're buried about to be exposed.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus does not in this moment expose her.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: Compare this, right, to the woman who is caught in adultery and brought to Jesus, right?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: He he does not even expose her.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's the others that expose her.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's trying to protect her.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I love this because all of us carry something on us.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: We carry some sort of burden, we carry some, we carry our own sin, our own brokenness, whatever it is.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: We all carry it and we are always so worried about being exposed and shamed.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: But that is not the work of the gospel here.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because the work of the gospel is that Jesus meets her and he knows her.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's one filled with grace.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: In the Wesleyan tradition, we have this uh uh this verbiage that we use for this called prevenient grace.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: If you're writing things down, you can write that down.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: P-R-E-V-E-N-I-E-E-N-T.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: Prevenient grace.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_01: It means a grace that goes before us, a grace that goes before us.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's the idea that, like, oh, I kept going to God, I finally found my way back to God, and God was there the entire time.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: Even when I didn't know it, God was there with his arms open, loving us from the beginning and knowing us.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you've ever been in a situation where you feel like there's going to be shame based on what you did or something that happened, and you've ever been met by somebody who just they just hear you.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: They're not meeting you with any judgment and that they just want to hear you.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just want to talk to you, tell me your story.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: That is an act of grace that shows her who God is.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: Sir, I see that you're a prophet.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you and your people say that it is necessary to worship in Jerusalem.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: They had disagreements about where they worship.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: And Jesus said to her, Believe me, woman, the time is coming when your people will worship the Father.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: Skipping down, she says, I know that the Messiah is coming, the one who is called to Christ.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And when he comes, he will teach everything to us.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: And Jesus says to her, the man who knew her, he says, I am.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: The same word, the same title used when Moses is standing at the bush, being like, How am I going to talk to this Pharaoh guy?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: I am the one who speaks with you.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Just then Jesus' disciple arrived and were shocked that he was talking with a woman.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: And no one asked, What do you want?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: or why are you talking with her?
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: The woman put down her water jar and she went into the city.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: She said to the people, Come and see a man who has told me everything that I've done.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Could this man be the Christ?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Come see a man who knows me and knows you.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And the bonus part still shows up for you, even though he knows everything.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: There are some things I wish the Lord did not know about my life.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: You don't know them, that's on purpose.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know yours for the same reason.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: And yet, he shows up for her enough for her to understand.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Holy cow, this is God.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is God delivering a grace I didn't even know existed.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's the power of grace over the culture of shame.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's the power of being known over the culture of being exposed.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Some of you have heard me tell this story before, and I apologize if you have.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: But when I was serving in uh graduate school out of Wesley there, we would gather every Wednesday night for a thing we called Eucharist.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's just the fancy word for communion.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: And we would have a service down in the basement of Duke Chapel.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we were like, you know, crammed in there and we're sitting all over each other, and we're just kind of, it was really cool.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: It felt like the early church, you know.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the light, the candles are lit and it's dark, you know.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was really cool.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we were all kind of just we would hang down, I think it started like 6 30 or something, and we'd all just kind of hang there and wait till service got started, and there was always a student preacher, which was really cool, and so we're kind of like, who's preaching?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: It was always a surprise, like who's preaching tonight, you know?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: And we're sitting around this circle, and uh in walks this guy, student, unnamed, and uh he falls down on the ground.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now, we had kind of known, or at least thought, you know how rumors are, that he was dating two women at the same time, which is frowned upon.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: And something happened prior to this gathering in which he was found out, he fell onto the floor.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: It was one of those moments where everybody kind of knows what's going on but doesn't know, and then all of a sudden we kind of figure it out, and all of us were like, oh my gosh, the heaviness, the burden of that moment is just sitting in that room.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: And it took a minute.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Not gonna lie.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think there were probably some of us there that were like, see, this is what you get.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Don't do that.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Be better.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: But it took a minute, and then as time kind of passed, the quietness was too overwhelming, a couple of students gathered around him and just put their arm on him.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: And they just held him.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: No words exchanged.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: It was a moment in which he was known.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: I loved about it is that he in the moment of his exposure, where did he come to the Christian community that would welcome him in no matter what?
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: No matter what.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't encourage the behavior, I wouldn't encourage the harm that he did.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, we had many conversations afterwards about rectifying and reconciling, reconciling that.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: But in that moment, he was known by a grace that surpasses all understanding.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Not shame, not exposure, grace.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: When we put on our masks, when we pretend to be the people that we feel like the community around us wants us to be, or that person wants us to be, or our professors want us to be, we put on this face.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's very, very, very dangerous.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Why?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not honest.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Really hard to know somebody when you're not honest.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: What would it look like for a Christian community to be one that would rally behind even the people that everybody else is trying to expose?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're the one who's living in that shame and living in that exposure, what would it look like for the wholeness of grace to come to your rescue as Jesus does on the cross and resurrected?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: And for us not just to sing about it in a dumb song, they're great songs, not to sing about it in a song, but to live it as a community, as a people, who see somebody else, and they say, They need the Lord, who see their own burden, and they say, I need the Lord, and the Lord is sitting there at the well when we're wondering about where the buckets are, and he's saying, I'm giving you the living water.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's the type of community that would go out into a world that is so overrun by the things we just talked about, and we say, Hey, come and see.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Come and see.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's what she does.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: She's turned from the way she is here, whatever that is, and she says, This man knows me.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: This man knows me.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's my prayer.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: That we would see and recognize the need to be known, that we would know each other, that we would provide grace upon grace, upon grace, upon grace, that we would be loved, and that we might be able to tell the world.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Come and see about this God, this God not overcome by your sin, not overcome by your brokenness, this God who can do and make all things new.