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Twinning in Paradise with Justin and Joey Young · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our Radio. It's episode two of this week for
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Speaker 1: the Almost Famous Podcast. We're lucky enough today to have
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Speaker 1: two of the um most screen time contestants this season
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Speaker 1: on Bachelor and Paradise, at least for the last few weeks.
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Speaker 1: Justin and Joey, the twins as we like to know them,
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Speaker 1: are here with us. Hello, fellows, what's up? How are you?
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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Time? Long time to see you, guys,
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Speaker 1: spoke on the podcast. I wasn't on that one. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: you missed out. Oh man, okay, well then I won't
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Speaker 1: be asking questions about last season. I forgot that you
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Speaker 1: guys have already been on here. Well, how surprised were
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Speaker 1: you to get the phone call that you were headed
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Speaker 1: to Bachelor in Paradise or that they would like you
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Speaker 1: to head to Bachelor in Paradise because you guys got
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Speaker 1: eliminated Night one. Yeah, we were, we were. We're common shock,
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Speaker 1: but we maybe almost even expected because pretty much literally
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Speaker 1: a week later after like we were eliminated from from
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Speaker 1: night when we kind of got the call like we're
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Speaker 1: going to consider you, that's for Paradise. We're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: really like we weren't really expecting it so early. We
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Speaker 1: were kind of weary about it too. We were like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to go through this again,
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Speaker 1: like is it gonna go bad for us? But how
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Speaker 1: we're excited about it. Yeah, I was the same way.
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Speaker 1: I think, like going home on night one, it really
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Speaker 1: kind of changed my perspective on Battor Nation as a whole.
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Speaker 1: So I was like, do I really want to go
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Speaker 1: back and maybe have the chance of being on there
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Speaker 1: one day and then I don't get a rose again?
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Speaker 1: So um, knowing that, you know, I took that in
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Speaker 1: consideration and we went back. So it's it's working well.
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Speaker 1: So so would you say it was a tough decision then?
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Speaker 1: Was it? Was there a lot of back and forth
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Speaker 1: between the two of you. Did Was there ever a
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Speaker 1: chance that one of you would go and one of
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't? Yeah, we thought about that, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: It was because we thought with that, you know, that
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Speaker 1: twin dynamic, it didn't really it came across a little
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Speaker 1: bit different on the bat Thorette. So having us maybe
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Speaker 1: one maybe it's just Joey God just me go would
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Speaker 1: maybe make things a little bit different a little bit
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Speaker 1: more success, you know, with a relationship. But we always
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Speaker 1: knew we were gonna do this together. We were in
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Speaker 1: it together once. It's going to happen again. So what
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Speaker 1: we kind of figured, being on Paradise, we'll kind of
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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really kind of build our own
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Speaker 1: relationships separately because there's multiple options instead of just like
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Speaker 1: two options. So yeah, so we kind of figured it
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Speaker 1: would kind of work well and play into that. So
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Speaker 1: I don't know it worked well for us. I feel
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Speaker 1: like so far, So if you guys were to ever
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Speaker 1: actually split and go into Paradise so low, who would
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Speaker 1: be the one going? Or will we fight out for that?
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Speaker 1: Definitely fight over that. I think can make it like
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Speaker 1: a number, like a decision like that right away. I
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Speaker 1: feel like we'd have to. I don't even know who
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Speaker 1: we would choose, honestly, but I mean, I think we
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Speaker 1: both would love to do it. But I personally think
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Speaker 1: Joey I think he'd be a little bit better than me.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit more sporadic in the
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Speaker 1: paradise type setting. I kind of bounce around as maybe
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Speaker 1: you've seen my time here now, So I think Joey
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Speaker 1: would be a little bit better. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that that could be determined later.
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Speaker 1: I guess, what, what were your expectations going in, So
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Speaker 1: you obviously get the ask. You both decided to go.
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Speaker 1: As you're showing up the into the beach, what did
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Speaker 1: you think was gonna happen? Um, honestly, since we were
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Speaker 1: showing up, but we kind of showed up at a
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Speaker 1: later point, I feel like when a lot of the
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Speaker 1: connections are already built, so we kind of going again.
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Speaker 1: I just expected, like, oh, maybe I'll find someone right away,
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Speaker 1: Like maybe I'll just click instantly, someone will be available,
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Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe, And then I didn't expect any
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Speaker 1: of this what's been happening so far, me staying on
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Speaker 1: this long kind of building the milest ships so far
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Speaker 1: with Shine. Did not expect that in the slightest bit,
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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I was kind of the opposite of that.
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Speaker 1: I expected to develop a relationship and I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do that. That was my goal being I think that's
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Speaker 1: anyone's goal that's going on to the Bachelor itself. So
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do that, and I knew I was
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Speaker 1: gonna do this and want any way I could, and
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Speaker 1: I mean it's working out now. So there it is.
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Speaker 1: Do you guys ever switch and pretend like each other
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Speaker 1: is the other the opposite one? And did the cast
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Speaker 1: have any issue telling you? Apart the whole cast? I
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Speaker 1: still to this day, I don't think they could tell
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Speaker 1: us part I wear a gold and he wears silver.
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Speaker 1: I think that was the main telling point. But if
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Speaker 1: it was covered, they couldn't tell, not at all. What
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Speaker 1: about the girls that you're dating, did they tell blow
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Speaker 1: was really good at it? They're they're pretty like they
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Speaker 1: caught on pretty quick, but I guess they're with us
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Speaker 1: so much and they can kind of tell we like
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Speaker 1: act a little different, kind of speak a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I think after that double date, Yeah, like all all
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Speaker 1: that time together, they were right away able to just
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's just that's Joey. And it was
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Speaker 1: cool to see that because that doesn't happen often. It
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Speaker 1: really doesn't, know, so seeing that it definitely developed kind
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Speaker 1: of even a greater attachment to flow for me, because
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Speaker 1: not everyone does that, and if they do, it's a
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Speaker 1: different type of relationship. You guys are the prey of
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Speaker 1: some cougars. You guys are twenty four and you were
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Speaker 1: dating all girls in their third Well, Che I think
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Speaker 1: is thirty. Then we have um Mara who's thirty three,
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Speaker 1: and then there's Flow who's thirty two. Yeah, but you
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Speaker 1: guys said that you've never been you've never dated an
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Speaker 1: older woman before, So how was it you getta you're
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Speaker 1: doing it again? Are you still dating these ladies? We
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Speaker 1: can't give those But um, I think I was never opposed,
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Speaker 1: but I just never honestly had the opportunity to do it.
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Speaker 1: So I mean I had, like you know, like it
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Speaker 1: came up and there's no complainance to the ere with it.
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Speaker 1: I don't really see a difference honestly. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: with this age thing, I've been seeing it around everywhere. Um,
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Speaker 1: I am twenty four, yes, but there's um other testans
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Speaker 1: on the show to who are twenty six, and you
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Speaker 1: know they're dating older women as well. And I think
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Speaker 1: for us, for some reason, that's just a very big
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Speaker 1: attachment to us that we're super young when I'm only
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Speaker 1: really a year younger and I know these women are older,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like for our age where we're a
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Speaker 1: lot more mature than a lot of people, exactly like
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Speaker 1: I have. We both have to master's degree from full
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Speaker 1: careers and things like that, so like we're I think
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Speaker 1: we're a lot more mature than people actually think we are,
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Speaker 1: So maybe the age things a little bit. Yeah, we're young,
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Speaker 1: but we can definitely obviously did an older woman if
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Speaker 1: it's the chance, And it's looking well right now, so
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Speaker 1: that's what matters to me. Well, and it doesn't look
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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of pain on either one of
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Speaker 1: your faces, so we'll see how this plays out. Well.
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Speaker 1: It brings me to something I wondered about two of you.
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Speaker 1: Obviously you did come in late to the beach, relationships
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Speaker 1: were already said. I'm sure you both had your your
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Speaker 1: wish list as they say, you're kind of top three
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Speaker 1: that you're looking for. Um, when you found out that
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Speaker 1: you know Flow and Hi, we're going to be the
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Speaker 1: two that were most available, are you excited initially? Were
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Speaker 1: you hesitant? Where you disappointed that the beach didn't have
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Speaker 1: more singles to offer you, um, a little bit of everything? Um.
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Speaker 1: I think I was a little hesitant because of the
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Speaker 1: age and I'm being perceived being young to these older women,
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Speaker 1: which actually happened. So I think I was a little
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Speaker 1: hesitant on that on that um Um reserve, but I
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Speaker 1: mean I was just willing to go with it and
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Speaker 1: just really see where it goes. Um. I kind of
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Speaker 1: like just to go off that. I kind of went
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Speaker 1: in not really like I didn't really have a list
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Speaker 1: of people per se I was looking for. I didn't like.
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Speaker 1: I just kind of went as a wild card, like
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Speaker 1: whoever I thought I could connect with the best, That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna go for. And so like an age
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Speaker 1: limit anything like that didn't really matter to me. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: obviously at first I was like, maybe the age thing
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Speaker 1: will be little of a problem, but I mean, obviously,
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Speaker 1: so it kind of it's good to take. You have
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Speaker 1: to take a risk when you're at Paradise, and I'm
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Speaker 1: glad and took that risk and did that. And what
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Speaker 1: was funny for me too, was my best conversation was
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Speaker 1: with Flow exactly, and we spoke to all the women there,
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Speaker 1: and my best combo was with Flow initially anyways, So
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Speaker 1: it worked out in that way for me. We definitely
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Speaker 1: connected the most, and I think the same thing with So. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's really where it came down to.
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Speaker 1: Of course we were hesitant, but you take the risk,
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Speaker 1: like you said, and that was tell me if this
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Speaker 1: perception of you is right. I imagine you guys is
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Speaker 1: like twelve year old boys through eighteen years watching the
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Speaker 1: show with your mom and then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: your mom gets her two sons on Bachelor, Bachelor, Bachelor
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Speaker 1: in Paradise. We have a really close relationship with our mom.
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Speaker 1: Honestly though I've never watched the show. I've only watched
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Speaker 1: one season before this when I was like in college,
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Speaker 1: so I never honestly, I never watched with my parents
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Speaker 1: are really anything, honestly, So it wasn't really I guess
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Speaker 1: that wasn't really. Yeah, it was just more we have
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Speaker 1: a close relationship with our parents and our mom. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: I think as Italians like it's a big thing. But um, no,
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Speaker 1: that's not a perception I think at all. I think
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Speaker 1: we're established at our age where we're independent from our parents.
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Speaker 1: Were not these little twelve year old little boys that
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Speaker 1: people are perceiving us. As you know, we carry our
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Speaker 1: own we like to carol, and you know, I think
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Speaker 1: even again to um, we displayed more maturity than some
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Speaker 1: guys on the beach or older than us, and people
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Speaker 1: have been saying that, and I think, you know, if
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Speaker 1: if I was twelve, we're not going to just play
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Speaker 1: that maturity. So um, so yeah, I think that's a
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Speaker 1: good answer to that. So justin what are you moving
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Speaker 1: to Australia? No, I got my plight booked. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at places now to go down there. So
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Speaker 1: all right, well, guys, thank you so much for coming on.
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Speaker 1: Before we let you go, I've got to ask my
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Speaker 1: last question for you. Yes, how many double dates do
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Speaker 1: you go on a year? Honestly, we actually we've only
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Speaker 1: been really I'd say that was probably ever the third
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Speaker 1: double date ever. Really, we really don't go on a
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Speaker 1: lot of double days. We're really in that dating world.
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Speaker 1: We're really independent from each other. I mean, look, we
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Speaker 1: like when the girls we do date our friends or
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Speaker 1: become friends, and I think that's huge. But we like
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Speaker 1: to have that independence because we're always together and you know,
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Speaker 1: as being a twin you know, you're always uh connected
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Speaker 1: to each other, but you've got to split that connection somehow,
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Speaker 1: and that's in the dating world. And you know, we're
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Speaker 1: also very different. I feel like in the dating world,
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Speaker 1: like you can awesome, you can just tell from our
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Speaker 1: relationships pretty much right now, like how they perceived. We're
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Speaker 1: just very kind of different in that way, so we
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Speaker 1: attract different girls, so maybe they might not always match,
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Speaker 1: or we just don't always have the way to go
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Speaker 1: on a double day with them, so we don't really
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Speaker 1: actually go on many But it was it was I
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Speaker 1: loved this. It was fun though. I can't can't complain
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Speaker 1: at all. Well, if if there's a title for interview,
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Speaker 1: it's independence and maturity, uh and self sufficiency, Like, um,
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Speaker 1: you guys would have been a great match for Kate
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Speaker 1: because Kate seems to only be looking for financial security.
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Speaker 1: Person she's doing she's doing Yeah, she's saying that, she
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Speaker 1: said a lot. She's doing Logan wrong. I think I
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Speaker 1: love Logan too, and I know he's he really is
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Speaker 1: established in his in his career, in his life. I
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Speaker 1: love them, and I just think, you know, she's doing
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Speaker 1: it wrong and there's no need for that. I don't know, Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's got to combat down a little bit. Hey, Justin,
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Speaker 1: Joey thinks for coming on. Best of luck with the
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Speaker 1: rest of the season. We can't wait to see what
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Speaker 1: these love stories play out. And Justin, when you make
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Speaker 1: it to Australia takes some pictures. I hear it's beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Come on down Ben you we can go out to
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Speaker 1: a little double date down there, right all right, guy,
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Speaker 1: you tease the last episode. We're talking about it today
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Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel arrive. We talked about it, we hinted
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Speaker 1: at it last week, we're talking about it this week.
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Speaker 1: Actually we mentioned last week we'll talk about again that
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Speaker 1: it would be a little weird for past leads maybe
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Speaker 1: to show up to the beach so soon after these
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Speaker 1: guys have left their season. I don't think we ever
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Speaker 1: see that, like turnover so fast and them to be like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, you're here. I think it's actually even
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Speaker 1: before tell All may tape, Like these guys might be
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Speaker 1: saying these girls before they even see them at the
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Speaker 1: tell All, which is jarring three weeks three weeks. See.
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Speaker 1: So the whole point of them sending in these guys
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Speaker 1: and these girls is to freak out the guys um
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Speaker 1: and make them they think that they're going to sit
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Speaker 1: down with the girls and all of a sudden, Gabby
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Speaker 1: and Rachel are gonna talk smack about them um, and
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Speaker 1: then they're gonna like then their girls are gonna have
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Speaker 1: all these new doubts. This is particularly about, well, Tyler
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Speaker 1: wasn't nervous at all because Tyler was just like everybody's favorite.
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Speaker 1: And then the girls basically told m Brittany like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, we're so happy that he's with someone because
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Speaker 1: he's so sweet, and like, we're so rooting for him.
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Speaker 1: And then a Logan was really the one that was
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Speaker 1: worried that they were going to say something to Kate,
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Speaker 1: because well, the girls are friends with Kate and Logan
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Speaker 1: was the one who flip flopped. And not only did
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Speaker 1: Logan flip flop in on the Bachelorette, but he also
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Speaker 1: has dated around a bit in Paradise. Um. But like,
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Speaker 1: you know, she didn't. She's not really fazed by any
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Speaker 1: of it right now. And then like their whole visit
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Speaker 1: is kind of just like, you know, it seems like
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Speaker 1: it could have been juicy, but it just wasn't. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we don't really see too much
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Speaker 1: of the reaction from this. I thought it was gonna
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Speaker 1: beat Logan's freaking out. Um. Kate has definitely built in
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Speaker 1: a unique fan base. Um, which why do I find
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Speaker 1: myself included in this? I'm telling you this is the
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Speaker 1: weirdest thing ever. She She has like such a condescending
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Speaker 1: voice by nature, like or a manner of speaking, and
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Speaker 1: everything she says is like, well, it could be offensive.
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Speaker 1: Not everything, but she says a lot of things that
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Speaker 1: could be taking offensively. It can be. Yeah, it's like
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Speaker 1: it's the storyline that that has been built in. Now.
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Speaker 1: She said enough things about wanting money, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: sustaining partner that can support her. Well, she's a dog
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Speaker 1: walker with an orange car. Yeah, so okay. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how to feel about any of this except the
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Speaker 1: fact that I was not nervous for Logan. And here's why.
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Speaker 1: At this point, there's zero chance Kate and Logan walk
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Speaker 1: off this beach together. So in her mind, she's probably thinking,
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Speaker 1: I don't really care what these two girls say. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know all of this stuff. Maybe true, they might
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Speaker 1: not like him, whatever. I just want to be around
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Speaker 1: for as long as I can possibly re around to
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Speaker 1: still enjoy paradise. And as a result, who cares. They
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Speaker 1: can say what they want. Logan are going to stick
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Speaker 1: it out until that last week when they're like, are
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Speaker 1: you ready to get engaged? They're both gonna be like Nope,
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Speaker 1: and then they'll walk off and they won't miss anything.
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Speaker 1: I think that Kate is there, um just to be
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Speaker 1: there at this point. I don't see any romance coming
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Speaker 1: from their relationship. So true, am I like evil for
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Speaker 1: thinking that she's funny? Like again, like I said last week,
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Speaker 1: like I know what she's saying is very flawed and
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Speaker 1: you don't just keeping it real. She's saying, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but they're not nice, they're not might not even be true,
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Speaker 1: like they might not even be true. So real in
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Speaker 1: the sense that she's saying things that typically are not
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Speaker 1: said on national television, and so it's interesting to watch
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Speaker 1: to see. It's good TV. Yeah, it's yeah. And I
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Speaker 1: wonder if she's like at all embarrassed for saying these
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Speaker 1: things or she's like whatever, speaking my feelings, my truth,
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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but obviously that relationship continues. Then the
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Speaker 1: two Bachelor's go home. That's about as big of an
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Speaker 1: impact as they had this week. This week, h it
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Speaker 1: was a little weird, h to have the guys congratulating
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Speaker 1: Rachel on the engagement that we know did not last.
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Speaker 1: It is you know weird now to see Gabby, you know,
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Speaker 1: so excited and happy and that did not work out either,
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Speaker 1: So it is a little bit of a time warp
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Speaker 1: to watch it and you know now knowing what's the
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Speaker 1: aftermath of all this. But they showed to the beach
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Speaker 1: at this point in the episode, Ashley, I was watching
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Speaker 1: it on my computer. My wife walks into the room
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Speaker 1: and I said, sometimes, Honey, I feel like I get
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Speaker 1: dumber by watching Paradise. Now this leads me to the
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Speaker 1: Genevieve and Aaron was the best part of the show,
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Speaker 1: the whole episode. And Wells makes the comment, I think
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Speaker 1: this show is making me dumber. And I would say,
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Speaker 1: and I said, Honey, do you hear that? He agrees,
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Speaker 1: My buddy agrees. He just has to be there. I
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Speaker 1: get deposit and turn off and go read a book
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Speaker 1: or something. Um, he just has to sit in it.
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Speaker 1: But actually, you loved this argument. What it was hilarious.
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Speaker 1: Let's get Eastern and Hannah on Eastern Hannah producers, let's
17:42
Speaker 1: get on and have the argument here, especially since I
17:46
Speaker 1: don't think Easton saw it is eastern around there. He is,
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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a second of this program. Yeah, I
17:53
Speaker 1: know you haven't seen it. But what I love is
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Speaker 1: that we get to give give the people somebody. Somebody's
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Speaker 1: a in with a neutral perspective. Okay, you're ready. He
18:04
Speaker 1: is an itch painful? No? No, no, it's not the question.
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Speaker 1: The question is it is having an itch? Pain? Is
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Speaker 1: having it? Okay? Yeah, it's having an inch pain a
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Speaker 1: low level of pain. I would say it's discomfort, and
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Speaker 1: in some cases it's pleasure. Scratching is pleasure. Yeah, scratch okay, Hannah, No,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's pain at all. It's like irritation.
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Speaker 1: And I agree with Eastern it is such pleasure when
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Speaker 1: you itching it scratch an itch to be proper. Now
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Speaker 1: here's um the scientific explanation. Oh my god, stopped. Really,
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Speaker 1: don't tell right. Although closely related to paint, itch is
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Speaker 1: a distinct sensation that causes scratching. Recent progress is indicated
19:09
Speaker 1: the existence of an itch specific neuron circuit tree. Neuron
19:17
Speaker 1: circuitry formed in part by the MRP expressed something expressing
19:22
Speaker 1: primary sensory neurons. So, in short, no, it's a sensation.
19:28
Speaker 1: It's not paint. When Aaron's yelling, it's a fact. It's
19:32
Speaker 1: a fact. It's not a fact. It's a sensation. It's
19:35
Speaker 1: not paint. All right, This is this was a really
19:39
Speaker 1: funny debate. Thanks guys for your input. Cases closed. I
19:44
Speaker 1: loved this. I thought it was just your everyday couple
19:47
Speaker 1: of argument. There wasn't, no Wolson. The thing was, it
19:50
Speaker 1: wasn't an everyday a couple of argument because like in
19:52
Speaker 1: that case, like Jared and I would be like arguing
19:54
Speaker 1: with each other, but like smiling while doing it and
19:56
Speaker 1: like trying to find definitions that trump to the other
19:59
Speaker 1: per sins. But Jennefy was so annoyed and she goes
20:04
Speaker 1: and packs her bags and is rolling it out to
20:06
Speaker 1: the front of paradise. This is that they are that couple.
20:12
Speaker 1: They are just the dramatic couple that, like a stupid
20:15
Speaker 1: fights lead to something too big and that's why they
20:20
Speaker 1: are forever doomed. There's no way, really, I'm gonna disagree
20:25
Speaker 1: with you on something you just said, because I get
20:28
Speaker 1: that there's couples where little fights, small things turned into
20:32
Speaker 1: big things. But this other than the fact that Jennevieve
20:37
Speaker 1: said that Aaron yelled at her, which I wouldn't say
20:40
Speaker 1: he yelled at her, right, yeah, I mean maybe with
20:43
Speaker 1: something we didn't see. Okay, let's take that out of
20:46
Speaker 1: the equation here, because whatever, But um, outside of the reaction,
20:52
Speaker 1: and maybe one of the people within this relationship doesn't
20:56
Speaker 1: like reaction. This fight never got big, It never became personal. Typically,
21:01
Speaker 1: small fights get really detrimental when there's personal attacks throne,
21:06
Speaker 1: when people are damaged personally by the things being said.
21:09
Speaker 1: This was literally just a fight about is itching pain?
21:12
Speaker 1: There is never it never got bigger than it's not
21:15
Speaker 1: never dumb. You're always so dumb, You're so stupid, you
21:20
Speaker 1: don't know anything that was never said. It was literally
21:24
Speaker 1: back and forth about itching and pain, and so I
21:27
Speaker 1: would say, no, this did not become a big thing.
21:29
Speaker 1: I don't know why the bags were packed. I don't
21:32
Speaker 1: know how they're going to function in a world outside
21:35
Speaker 1: of paradise when small, little arguments like this make somebody
21:42
Speaker 1: want to leave. Ben, please regal us with a time
21:46
Speaker 1: that you and jess had an argument so dumb that
21:49
Speaker 1: actually got fired up over because I have an example
21:52
Speaker 1: of me and Jared. You know, jess and I don't
21:55
Speaker 1: fight just because a very I I don't mean five.
21:59
Speaker 1: We don't fight either. A bicker. No, But Jessica is
22:03
Speaker 1: more prone to be a peacemaker, like she just doesn't
22:07
Speaker 1: like even the bickering. Um It's hard for me to
22:11
Speaker 1: even think of one right now because most of my
22:13
Speaker 1: life we I know that she's sensitive to any type
22:17
Speaker 1: of bickering, and so we just don't because well, then
22:20
Speaker 1: doesn't boil. This is like, is there like an irritation
22:24
Speaker 1: that kind of continues because it's never brought up something. No,
22:27
Speaker 1: we talked like, we very much talked things through after.
22:31
Speaker 1: If it is any type of argument, there's typically tears
22:34
Speaker 1: and then there's like some breathing room and then it's hey,
22:37
Speaker 1: this is where I was coming from, this is where
22:39
Speaker 1: you were coming from. How do we get to this point? Okay, okay,
22:42
Speaker 1: you want to hear a stupid argument? Yes I do.
22:46
Speaker 1: Jared and I did this, made this TikTok. It was
22:48
Speaker 1: a year ago now that got over four million views,
22:52
Speaker 1: So I think it's our highest watch TikTok that we have.
22:56
Speaker 1: And it was Jared saying bon or alert in response
23:01
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady wearing a backwards hat, and I said,
23:05
Speaker 1: while we were at the actual Tampa Bay game, I go,
23:08
Speaker 1: you should make a funny TikTok when we get back
23:10
Speaker 1: to the hotel and you put a backwards hat on
23:13
Speaker 1: or like you watch videos of him and you do
23:15
Speaker 1: the bon or alert thing because it was like a
23:17
Speaker 1: trending sound. And then later when we saw it was
23:20
Speaker 1: getting over millions of views, I go, I'm so glad
23:23
Speaker 1: that I had that idea about bon or alert. And
23:26
Speaker 1: then he goes, that was not your idea, that was
23:29
Speaker 1: my idea. And we argued about whose idea it was,
23:34
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't fathom how he thought it was
23:36
Speaker 1: his idea, Like maybe he had the idea but never
23:39
Speaker 1: said it out loud or something like that. But it
23:42
Speaker 1: was like an argument where I was like, holy hell,
23:45
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to get over this. I can't
23:48
Speaker 1: believe how mad I am, and I'm just gonna have
23:52
Speaker 1: to drop it because we're never going to come to
23:54
Speaker 1: me agree. But not it did. He really had to breathe.
23:58
Speaker 1: So that that was our version life with your friends. Yeah,
24:00
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Boner Alert TikTok is our equivalent of itch
24:04
Speaker 1: slash pain. This is the wildest conversation. It's hilarious. I
24:10
Speaker 1: love the two of them trying to figure this out,
24:12
Speaker 1: and again they reconcile. They figured out no harm, no foul,
24:17
Speaker 1: everybody back to even. But at this point, Jenevieve has
24:21
Speaker 1: got to be sick of packing her bags like that
24:23
Speaker 1: is not an easy thing to do. It feels like
24:25
Speaker 1: they're just on waiting and on call. Again, I'll say it.
24:29
Speaker 1: I think the next time she packs her bag, she's gone.
24:32
Speaker 1: I said it this time, I was wrong. I just
24:34
Speaker 1: don't see this couple to the end. So let's kind
24:38
Speaker 1: of speed date through the couples that are existing right now. Actually,
24:41
Speaker 1: just give a quick little update because that's kind of
24:43
Speaker 1: the next segment of this episode. As we enter into
24:46
Speaker 1: the dance party, Uh, Michael and Danielle seemed to be
24:50
Speaker 1: doing really well, seemed to be getting to a place
24:53
Speaker 1: that feels like there's a long lasting relationship. She wants
24:56
Speaker 1: to say love, but she's also worried about saying but
25:00
Speaker 1: she's feeling it. And I wonder if we're going to
25:04
Speaker 1: get hear him say love by the end of this season,
25:07
Speaker 1: because we know he's only said it to Laura before
25:09
Speaker 1: in his past. Um the other big Yeah, Brittie and Tyler,
25:14
Speaker 1: Britnie Tyler going strong. Don't see a lot about him.
25:17
Speaker 1: You don't watch him very often. I don't know what
25:20
Speaker 1: it is. I love Brittany so much like I really
25:23
Speaker 1: hold Britney dear. I really liked her, and she's so
25:27
Speaker 1: much over her age. There's something so special about her
25:31
Speaker 1: that I just feel really protective when watching her. And
25:35
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's it. Yeah, Justin and Flo, sure,
25:42
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's a halfway across the world
25:47
Speaker 1: lasting relationship. Joey and Chine. I also feel like that
25:54
Speaker 1: is not going to really go very far in the
25:57
Speaker 1: real world. I I'll be shocked, but I could see
26:01
Speaker 1: those I could see one of those two making it
26:03
Speaker 1: and us all being surprised. It would be Yeah, I
26:07
Speaker 1: could see it being one of those couples that were like, WHOA,
26:10
Speaker 1: that's success story and from Paradise that we did not
26:12
Speaker 1: see coming. There's a lot of those what do you
26:16
Speaker 1: think of Brandon screen? I mean, just get married tomorrow.
26:20
Speaker 1: It'll be fine. Yeah, it's gonna be great. And they
26:22
Speaker 1: could get married right there on the beach and I
26:24
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be concerned about them not even experiencing real
26:27
Speaker 1: life together. Very very much and love. And at this
26:34
Speaker 1: point we have n C and Andrew. Obviously, anybody that's
26:37
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast has watched the episode, but at
26:39
Speaker 1: this point we're feeling like there's excitement or just something
26:45
Speaker 1: new to me. Can we talk about just how funny
26:49
Speaker 1: this whole thing is with n and Andrew at the
26:54
Speaker 1: end of the like this is where we are, right,
26:57
Speaker 1: we have to talk about the most unbelievable moment I've
27:00
Speaker 1: in quite some time on TV. I have some strong
27:03
Speaker 1: opinions on that. The final cop couple is Kate and Logan.
27:07
Speaker 1: Cat and Logan also doomed, doomed, doomed? So can we
27:23
Speaker 1: go on to n C? Now we we do have
27:28
Speaker 1: to say, um, that is short and as sweet and
27:32
Speaker 1: his Um. I mean, I love these two people, but
27:35
Speaker 1: I have no clue why Beck and Thomas arrived in Paradise.
27:38
Speaker 1: Smallest cameo of all time. I don't get it. I
27:41
Speaker 1: don't know what the show was thinking it was gonna happen.
27:45
Speaker 1: But Beck and Thomas do arrive in Paradise. They are
27:47
Speaker 1: a great success story from Paradise. Um, they should be highlighted.
27:51
Speaker 1: I think they're both tremendous and I care about them both.
27:54
Speaker 1: But yeah, they came, they left. I think they're at
27:58
Speaker 1: the dance party, yeah, and think so. But they held
28:01
Speaker 1: no mentor role. I thought they were going to go
28:05
Speaker 1: and do a date with somebody I don't know, but
28:09
Speaker 1: no nothing. So anyway, we get to the party and
28:12
Speaker 1: the party is a nineties theme, which is really cool.
28:14
Speaker 1: But there's only one thing that we has have so
28:17
Speaker 1: far seen that happens at the party that is monumental,
28:20
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna talk about it yet. We're gonna
28:22
Speaker 1: talk about the dance off. Why are you doing this
28:24
Speaker 1: to me? The dance off was so fantastic, um, the guys,
28:29
Speaker 1: who was the girls, the costumes were great, the party
28:32
Speaker 1: was was fantastic. I'm sure this is a very fun
28:35
Speaker 1: event um for everybody. And now, actually I will allow
28:40
Speaker 1: us to talk about and see Andrew and just sitting you, okay,
28:44
Speaker 1: so just send you up, pulls Andrew aside, and she
28:47
Speaker 1: doesn't really have much of an argument. She's telling Andrew,
28:51
Speaker 1: and you know, it's because she feels bad about the
28:53
Speaker 1: situation that she's in with him, which is basically like
28:56
Speaker 1: no longer a situation hip. It's just they broke it up.
29:02
Speaker 1: She's like, I just feel like you're not here for
29:05
Speaker 1: basically like the wrong just basically I think you're here
29:08
Speaker 1: for the wrong races at this point, Like you're just
29:10
Speaker 1: not really connecting with people like you have dated. Now
29:15
Speaker 1: you're on your fourth person and it's just not like
29:20
Speaker 1: clicking for you, and we really just are wondering why
29:23
Speaker 1: you're like breezing by, like maybe you shouldn't be here anymore.
29:27
Speaker 1: Am I summarizing that properly? Yeah? I mean I think she.
29:33
Speaker 1: I got the feeling watching it that, like she definitely
29:37
Speaker 1: was hurting. And I'm gonna say this word and I
29:43
Speaker 1: don't think I think it's gonna be too strong, but
29:46
Speaker 1: she was definitely manipulating the situation, but like on an
29:50
Speaker 1: evil way. No, no, exactly, That's why I said it's
29:53
Speaker 1: too strong. Yeah, yeah, but I guess she was hurting,
29:57
Speaker 1: so she was communicating this pain to him without telling
30:00
Speaker 1: him that she's just hurting, and instead it came off
30:02
Speaker 1: as her trying to convince him that he's messing up
30:06
Speaker 1: and that she's just worried about him. She was like,
30:09
Speaker 1: let me get this straight, this is you, not me, right. Yeah.
30:14
Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to when somebody says you look tired.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's like, what you really want to tell me is
30:19
Speaker 1: I looked terrible, but you're trying to manipulate to sound
30:23
Speaker 1: a little better so that it's not so offensive, but
30:26
Speaker 1: it's just as offensive. So I am assuming Andrew, even
30:30
Speaker 1: though he did handle himself well. I do have some
30:32
Speaker 1: critiques as usual about how he handled it, but he
30:36
Speaker 1: did handle himself well. He was patient, he was very
30:40
Speaker 1: he was very kind given. But I'm sure inside his
30:43
Speaker 1: blood is boiling because he knows where this is coming from,
30:48
Speaker 1: and he knows how confused he already is. And I'm
30:51
Speaker 1: sure he's just sitting there being like, I just want
30:53
Speaker 1: this to stop because this feels unhealthy. Now here's my
30:58
Speaker 1: critique of Andrew. I think he's a dude, great smile,
31:01
Speaker 1: a lot of energy. Um, he says dude to women. Wait,
31:05
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I know, but you also know he
31:10
Speaker 1: doesn't really like them if he's calling them dude. Do
31:12
Speaker 1: you think I don't know? I mean there's moments where
31:15
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at the dinner table Jess and I'm like, dude,
31:18
Speaker 1: watch this, and I'm like, I'm sorry, that was weird.
31:19
Speaker 1: It's just like, like, I want you to see this
31:21
Speaker 1: video and it just came out that it's excited. He
31:25
Speaker 1: just repeatedly says it is greeting to women. Is come on, dude,
31:29
Speaker 1: I like, and I just don't think that fits. It
31:33
Speaker 1: feels weird. That's my critique of Okay, that's it, that's
31:37
Speaker 1: what I want. I just also wanted to say that,
31:39
Speaker 1: like Jena is trying, I don't think it's fair to say, like,
31:46
Speaker 1: just because you haven't found love in Paradise, you have
31:48
Speaker 1: to go like who says that you have to like
31:51
Speaker 1: you can't like be in like with multiple people. She
31:54
Speaker 1: was saying, it's like not right, it's not right for
31:56
Speaker 1: you to be here anymore because like you've only found
31:58
Speaker 1: like here and you've kind of like gotten through every
32:01
Speaker 1: road ceremony because people like you, but like you're not
32:04
Speaker 1: in love, you know what I mean. I just but again,
32:07
Speaker 1: it's the it's it's it's not me, it's you, right situation,
32:11
Speaker 1: and like and we get it. But the most dramatic
32:14
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happens, or at least an oil, is
32:18
Speaker 1: the fact that NC comes up to him in the
32:21
Speaker 1: middle of this conversation, insisting that this isn't out of
32:25
Speaker 1: like insecurity. But she's like this is so wrong, like
32:28
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull you aside. Can I pull you aside?
32:30
Speaker 1: And she's and he's like no, no, no, no no, like
32:33
Speaker 1: this is important, Like I really need to communicate this
32:36
Speaker 1: with her respectable love that he said that, but then
32:40
Speaker 1: she is like, if you don't come with me, I'm
32:43
Speaker 1: going to be like really over this, and then just
32:47
Speaker 1: said He's like, well, you're giving him an ultimatum. That's
32:49
Speaker 1: really attractive. And I think NC just must have been
32:53
Speaker 1: really drunk to act the way that she does in
32:57
Speaker 1: that scene and then the forthcoming Yeah, I mean something
33:01
Speaker 1: has to be going on, because, um, it's paradise. You're
33:06
Speaker 1: gonna see people talk to other people. And their conversation
33:10
Speaker 1: was not romantic. Their conversation was a yard apart. They
33:13
Speaker 1: weren't touching. There was no smiles, no flirting, coldness. Yeah.
33:19
Speaker 1: In fact, if I was n C, I'd be like,
33:21
Speaker 1: you let that exist because this is for me like that,
33:25
Speaker 1: I'll be sitting on the sidelines waiting for you to
33:27
Speaker 1: come back. It was weird. It was it was dramatic.
33:30
Speaker 1: I'm proud. I am not proud because that makes it
33:33
Speaker 1: sound like I would have done it. I would have
33:35
Speaker 1: never done this. I'm not smart enough. But the way
33:38
Speaker 1: Andrew handled it with n C afterwards, when he said,
33:41
Speaker 1: here's really you know, in summary, I'm not gonna get
33:45
Speaker 1: it perfect but he said something along the lines of
33:46
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a partner that allows me to care
33:50
Speaker 1: for people where they're at. Uh, justin he was hurting,
33:54
Speaker 1: she needed to talk to me, and I'm looking for
33:55
Speaker 1: partners to support me because that's just who I am.
33:58
Speaker 1: That is a really like wise, thoughtful, um vulnerable thing
34:04
Speaker 1: to say, and I get it. And I think for him,
34:08
Speaker 1: no matter what in Sea's like sobriety was or what
34:14
Speaker 1: was happening behind the scenes, I'm assuming that was his
34:18
Speaker 1: deal breaker, Like when he heard that and saw that
34:21
Speaker 1: at that moment, he said, this is not my partner,
34:23
Speaker 1: This is not this is not who I want to be,
34:27
Speaker 1: This is not the partner I need to support me
34:29
Speaker 1: because my whole life, and you can just tell with
34:31
Speaker 1: Andrew his whole life is probably sitting uh and the
34:35
Speaker 1: difficult situations with people helping them walk through it, but
34:40
Speaker 1: also UH standing up for the things he believes them
34:43
Speaker 1: and he needs a partner to get beside him in
34:45
Speaker 1: that and alongside of him and lead him in that.
34:48
Speaker 1: So I thought that was a great statement that moment. Yeah,
34:52
Speaker 1: and it clarified, you know why he was so turned off,
34:56
Speaker 1: And I think he obviously wasn't really like that invested
35:00
Speaker 1: in his relationship with her. But that said, he did
35:04
Speaker 1: say like this night and how everything unfolded makes me
35:06
Speaker 1: feel like I have to leave now, like we have
35:09
Speaker 1: basically no future. And he said that in as nice
35:11
Speaker 1: of way as possible. And then the amount of times
35:16
Speaker 1: I've done I've done cringeing things on the show before,
35:18
Speaker 1: and and this was up there, this this pegging, this
35:22
Speaker 1: please Andrew, please, please please, saying please twenty times. Yeah,
35:25
Speaker 1: hard to watch. It was cringeing. Um. And I'm gonna
35:29
Speaker 1: give her the benefit of the doubt and say that
35:30
Speaker 1: she probably was just like a little bit. She probably,
35:34
Speaker 1: you know, she was feeling desperate. She was not that
35:36
Speaker 1: ye how it was going to come across on TV,
35:39
Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, it was rough. It was it was begging.
35:42
Speaker 1: It was true begging, like I don't know if I've
35:44
Speaker 1: ever seen before on Bachelor franchise. And why where do
35:48
Speaker 1: you think that was? Do you think she really cared
35:50
Speaker 1: about him that much and really saw a future with
35:52
Speaker 1: Andrew and really wanted him there or was it an
35:55
Speaker 1: embarrassing thing for her where she realized that she overstepped
35:58
Speaker 1: and didn't realize the repercussion from overstepping. Where do you
36:01
Speaker 1: think that was coming from. I think that she has
36:04
Speaker 1: a big crush on Andrew. And I also think that
36:08
Speaker 1: she did the show again and she just had a
36:12
Speaker 1: whole different thought of it unfolding. And I think she
36:16
Speaker 1: just thought to be more successful in the first time around.
36:18
Speaker 1: She did make a mention of this in the exit vehicle,
36:21
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, I think that basically it was just
36:24
Speaker 1: like her feeling like she failed. She made a sord
36:26
Speaker 1: mistake and then failed. That's too bad. I don't like
36:29
Speaker 1: that for it is sad. Two last things. One is
36:33
Speaker 1: another embarrassing moment for n C where she has a
36:36
Speaker 1: snot bubble. That's not that it was on her lip. Wait,
36:42
Speaker 1: why didn't I see that? I didn't make that show it?
36:45
Speaker 1: Oh why did they show it? It's too bad? Um?
36:49
Speaker 1: And then why do we talk about here on the podcast?
36:53
Speaker 1: And then but we've all been there. Uh, that's human,
36:57
Speaker 1: that happens. Uh. And we'll closed this episode today talking
37:02
Speaker 1: about what Andrew's ultimate excuse for leaving was is that
37:06
Speaker 1: he's still very much his hearts with Teddy. That relationship ended.
37:13
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't even feel like the same season
37:17
Speaker 1: he's been there since then, he's found some relationships since then,
37:21
Speaker 1: do you see a future with Teddy and Andrew? Do
37:23
Speaker 1: you think she's going to be interested in trying it
37:26
Speaker 1: again outside of Paradise? Uh? And then are you surprised
37:30
Speaker 1: that that that his heart was still so much there?
37:33
Speaker 1: It's so sad that his heart was so much there.
37:35
Speaker 1: I know that based on like what Teddy said on
37:37
Speaker 1: Instagram a couple of months, like maybe a couple of
37:39
Speaker 1: weeks ago. She said something about like alluding to the
37:43
Speaker 1: show just not being like her ideal place to be right.
37:47
Speaker 1: I have a theory that maybe they are trying to
37:50
Speaker 1: rekindle in real life, that she really just didn't want
37:52
Speaker 1: to date him there. Um also and very anxious for
37:59
Speaker 1: the reunion show to see where they are today. Yeah,
38:04
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I don't know that. That's basically my
38:07
Speaker 1: thoughts on it. What about you? I think they could
38:10
Speaker 1: make it work. I think there's been enough flirting going
38:13
Speaker 1: on in social media well over last year before the show,
38:18
Speaker 1: where he was saying how interested he was in her,
38:21
Speaker 1: that I could see them going in a few dates.
38:24
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna work or not. You
38:25
Speaker 1: didn't get to see enough their relationship to see their chemistry,
38:28
Speaker 1: but he obviously went in the paradise. I would believe
38:32
Speaker 1: solely focused that this was his shot to meet Teddy.
38:35
Speaker 1: Uh and to be with Teddy, and so I hope
38:38
Speaker 1: they at least give it a date. I think they.
38:40
Speaker 1: I think they will have something in real life. Do
38:43
Speaker 1: we know how close they are in proximity? I don't.
38:46
Speaker 1: I know, I know he's in Chicago, but I don't
38:48
Speaker 1: know where. But it was a dramatic, also emotional uh
38:53
Speaker 1: and um, I will say embarrassing ending to the show.
38:57
Speaker 1: I don't think Z's probably watching this EPI so being
39:00
Speaker 1: like that was my greatest moment, and I'm really happy
39:03
Speaker 1: it happened. And I don't feel weird watching it. I'm
39:05
Speaker 1: sure it's hard. Um what's cringer? Her interruption of Jena
39:10
Speaker 1: or the police please please? I would say the interruption
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Speaker 1: of Jena, I mean the police please please. I think
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Speaker 1: came out of desperation of knowing that like the interruption
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Speaker 1: caused repercussion that she don't wanted. I thought the way
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Speaker 1: she handled that was unfair to both, and I don't
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Speaker 1: probably believe that's who she wants to be. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: she watches it back and says, Gosh, when somebody's having
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Speaker 1: a really difficult conversation, I don't need to step in
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Speaker 1: the middle of it. And that's not who I am,
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Speaker 1: and it's not who I want to be in the future.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what I would say. It wasn't It
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Speaker 1: wasn't like super fun for me to watch. It was
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Speaker 1: kind of hard, and it was also a little frustrating
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Speaker 1: because I I think sitting there going all you have
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Speaker 1: to do and see is going and dance and let
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Speaker 1: Andrew come inside, and this is all fine. Well, they
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Speaker 1: were never gonna account, but n could have been a
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Speaker 1: little less, had a little less on TV. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm all right, we're moving into They keep teasing it. Uh,
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Speaker 1: engagements are coming, They're coming, They're they're happening. They say
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Speaker 1: it every week the last two weeks. Let's see when
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Speaker 1: they happen. But we'll be back next week covering both
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Speaker 1: episodes of Bachelor in Paradise. But until next time, I've
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