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Magic Guys Trivia Throwdown: #230 · The Magic Guys

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They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 230 of the Magic Guys. Can you believe it?
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I'm Josh Nambido. I'm one of your three hosts today. And to my left, we've got Doug Kahn.
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What's up, internet? Hello, magic nerds. Welcome to our magic party.
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And down below, we've got my fellow beautiful bald man. It's Nick Kay.
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What's up, fellow bald magicians? Nick Kay in the house. Welcome to the show.
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Oh, yeah. So this is the podcast where us as professional, busy working magicians
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answer your questions. we jam, we talk with the community, we interview fun
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guests, which we have a lot of coming up over the next coming weeks.
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And to kick off today's episode, we want to throw it right to our community.
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We have a SpeakPipe, which if you're new to the pod is a place where you can
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leave a voicemail in the form of a question for us to answer.
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And you can do that by clicking the link below or
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go to speakpipe.com forward slash the
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magic guys today's one comes from jt let's
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see what jt is up to hello there i'm the southpaw magician and i'm just wondering
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when you guys go ahead and learn a trick and like say you don't quite know where
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it was in a random book or somewhere or you make a trick uh it.
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Or you just learn a whole bunch of different tricks and you just want to be able to remember them.
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What do you guys typically do? Do you record yourself?
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Do you write them down in the book? What is the best way, in your opinion,
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to remember these tricks?
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For myself, I'm learning a
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whole bunch of different card tricks that I'm doing, that I'm practicing,
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but then it's been a little bit since i've actually practiced those tricks specifically
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and so now i'm having a hard time remember what they were and so just wondering
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what your guys opinion on that is thank you jt,
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i guess it's something we don't think about we're always learning new magic
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but do you keep a roster of them or not i mean my answer is i kind of find it
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to be the natural sifter of like what's good for me and what isn't,
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I'll just naturally forget.
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So I'm actually just forgetting stuff because I'll learn magic.
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And if it's sort of like an okay trick, but it's not really hitting hard in
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my repertoire, it'll naturally fizzle out.
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And I'll look back at videos from like five years ago and be like,
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oh yeah, I remember I used to do that thing, but it's kind of been replaced
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by something newer that fits me better.
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So I do kind of let myself naturally forget, but Doug can't forget.
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He has the memory of an elephant. What are you like, Doug?
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I like your approach, survival of the fittest.
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It's nice when you can, you know, get out there and do the routines in the wild.
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Here's a short answer. We only need like five to ten tricks.
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Play in the playground, have a great time, and what Josh just said will happen.
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You know, if you want to remember things, I always tell developing magicians,
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think of things in three.
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Routine of three things, and then routine those three things together,
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and maybe to a nine thing routine if you need to.
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You can remember things in chunks of three beginning
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middle end and then you have at least an anchor to
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add or subtract things into that routine
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so there's some input well i
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tend to keep a spreadsheet of my routines and i categorize them as to what they're
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actually to be used for i bet that's a big spreadsheet huh you can only imagine
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it's it's enormous because it also includes things that I'm working on as in
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works in progress and things that aren't quite there yet.
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But the good thing about doing that as well is that you can add information
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on what those routines are used for and more importantly, also how long they are.
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Sometimes you're asked to do a 10-15 minute spot depending on the location or
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whatever sort of restrictions the venue might have.
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You can look at your spreadsheet and it's just a reference point for you to
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not have to overthink or be, you know, slow down the thought of the thought
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process with the paralysis by analysis. You can, you've got documentation of what you actually do.
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And that was advice that I got from Teller. So I've been sticking to that ever since.
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Yeah. Damn. I was going to disagree with you until you mentioned Teller and
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now it's, that's, I'm going to do that too now.
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Perfect. The notebooks, the guys are mentioning in the chat,
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write it down as the best advice ever.
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You know, certainly a spreadsheet works, but if you take pen to paper and
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write that thing down you'll you'll remember at least
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something about it more more readily yep and
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another thing you should use a notebook for to write down is uh magic history
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and trivia because you never know when you're going to pop into an episode that's
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going to require you to retain some of that knowledge and i think today thanks
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to our boy nick here we have a trivia oh wait a trivia.
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Extravaganza episode for you guys we do it live so you know that's that's right
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fellas look we've had a lot of deep serious conversations there's been a lot
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of controversy about what was it,
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like controversy and everything else about you know oh you know you shouldn't
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be hanging out with whatever the hell but you know what i think in the spirit
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of magic let's have some fun and let's learn a little something.
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So are you in the kahoot, Josh? Because I only see Doug.
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I'm sure I am. Let me click back to it. All right. I just want to make sure.
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Yeah. It says I'm in. And while we're chatting, we'll explain what that is too.
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Okay. So guys, we were going, like, originally I thought, like,
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we could just do a vocalized type of Q&A.
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But because everything's multiple choice question that we're presenting this
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evening, I figured that, you know what, this might be difficult because there's
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going to be four options for every answer.
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Rather than having to repeat myself and say, oh, what was A again? i've
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put it into a kahoot and we're going to test the
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knowledge of both josh nabito and the
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illustrious doug khan to see who has the greater magic knowledge
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of the magic guys so and by
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the way kahoot is an outside app to the stream yard that allows us to have this
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multiple choice just so you know assuming this goes well when we have fun we
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can expand this potentially in the future to allow more participants, perhaps from the chat.
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This is a pricey software, but we're running it on the cheap today to test drive
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this bad boy and see how this thing plays out.
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Exactly right. And so it's an opportunity for you guys who are watching or listening
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on the pod, you know, just to play along and learn a little magic on the way.
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So gentlemen, start your brains. Shall we begin?
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Let's do it. Let's do it. So the first section is called who fooled who let's
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begin with question number one, who said the closer you look, the less you see.
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Was it a Penn and Teller B diver and see David Blaine or D Daniel Atlas from now you see me.
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And Josh and I are answering these questions on our phone.
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So we have reference. Yeah. And you both chose Penn and Teller.
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It would be pretty wild eventually when we can have like the hundred people watching this.
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Sorry, the 15 people watching this play it live at the same time. It would be pretty rad.
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All right. So this one question, it jumped quickly because we did test this
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one question beforehand.
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Thank goodness, because I missed it the first time around.
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So from now, from now on, Doug and I have no idea.
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And obviously Nick is being the trivia master here. All right. Correct.
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And I think also the way you earn more points is the quicker you guys answer
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by pushing in your buttons.
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So this is not only a game of width, but also a game of speed.
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Who's got the sharper brain? So let's move on to the next question. Ready, fellas?
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Okay, question number two. Who was known as the man who fooled Houdini?
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Was it A, Dai Vernon, B, Alexander Herman, B, Black Herman, or Chang Ling Su? D, the answer is...
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Di Vernon. The Professor. Well done. What's that?
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The Professor, of course. That is correct, yes. What's his real name?
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Do you know his real name?
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David. That's right. What's his middle name? David Vernon. Yeah.
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Bonus points for the middle name. Oh, good question. It starts with M? W.
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Damn. I remember the shape. I don't know. I think his last name was Verner,
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if I'm not mistaken. But I could be mistaken.
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Yeah well i do know that there it is stefan got it
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david wingfield verner and there
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you go we're all learning more than we thought we'd learn tonight so this and
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this is the thing so tell you what how about after each answer i give you guys
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some cool tidbits so let's press on the next question is which magician died
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performing the bullet catch trick was it William Ellsworth Robinson?
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Was it Charles Morit or C.
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Paul Daniels or D. Chun-Ling Su?
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I think I should pause before giving my answer because once we both give our
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answer, it just tells us who it is.
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So I'm going to build a suspense and now I'm going to put in this one.
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All right. The answer is Chun-Ling Su, correct. So he was actually fatally shot
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when the gun malfunctioned and ironically, he was an American pretending to be a Chinese person.
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So, Doug, with a three out of three streak, well done. Let's keep that fire rolling.
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Next question is, what was Houdini's rule name? Was it Emile Horwitz?
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Was it B, Edward Huys? Was it C, Harry Huys? Or was it D, Eric Huys?
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I see why he changed his name. These are all very hard to pronounce. Yeah.
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The correct answer is Eric Huys. Well done. And the person who got that correct
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was Doug with a four out of four streak.
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He was actually born Eric Weiss. He was born in Budapest. And the reason he
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changed his name to Harry Houdini was because he was inspired by the French
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magician Jean-Eugène Robert Houdin.
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Did you miss the question, Norbido?
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Did you miss one? Because you took your time.
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Yeah, I'm taking my time just so everyone in the chat gets a chance to type
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in their answer as well. But I didn't hit the answer. I just got it wrong.
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Oh, loser. Too bad. I'm here. I'm about the community, okay?
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I'm not about trying to show how big of a nerve I am. Next question.
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Which magician helped expose fraudulent spiritualists in the 1920s?
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Was it A, Harry Blackstone, B, Dante, C, Alexander, or D, David Abbott?
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Interesting. No idea. Can I phone a friend real quick? You got four seconds. I'm kind of stumped.
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Yeah. The correct answer is David Abbott. That's right. Let's go.
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Yes. David P. Abbott wrote, Behind the scenes of mediums, exposing tricks by
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fake psychics. He was a brilliant, brilliant person.
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Next question. Which magician famously made the Statue of Liberty disappear? Was it A, David Blaine.
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D, Doug Henning. C, Chris Angel. Or D, David Copperfield. There's no David Blaine. Oh, no.
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Just pretending like I don't know the answer. That's sidetrack.
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Okay, there we go. Honestly, I want to get Stepan in here with us answering
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questions, but maybe next time.
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Yeah, the answer was Copperfield, which he did using a very clever stagecraft,
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The Misdirection, which was televised in 1983.
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Next question. Like a boss. Who was Adelaide Herman?
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Was it A, a pioneer female magician known as the Queen of Magic?
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Was it B, a famous magician's assistant? C, Houdini's manager?
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Or D, the first female member of the magic circle?
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The correct answer, the pioneer female magician known as the Queen of Magic.
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Yes, C, Adelaide Herman took over her husband's act after his death and became
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a headlining magician in her own right.
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It's quite a remarkable story. I have written a history lesson on her,
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so if you do want to hear about it, let us know, and we will do a history lesson
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telling you all about the amazing Adelaide Hermit.
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No doubt. She was a breakthrough, this one.
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Yeah, absolutely. Next question.
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Which magician is credited with inventing the Soaring a Woman in Half illusion?
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Was it A, Dante, B, Thurston, C, P.T. Selbert, or D. Keller.
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I feel like we brought this up on an episode once, didn't we?
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Yeah. We brought it up many times. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's not helping me right now, though. Okay. The correct answer is- Norbido,
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come on. Be good or Norbido.
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Someone needs to go back to history class. The correct answer, if I may, is P.T.
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Selbert, who debuted the illusion in 1921, and others adapted it to be far more
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dramatic and gory up, but definitely was the first creator of that.
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Next question. I've recently had the pleasure of hearing David Copperfield talk
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about this man and his museum. So I had a heads up anyway.
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What is the magic castle is the question friends. Is it a, a magician's retreat in the UK?
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Is it B, a theme park magic show D, a, sorry, C, a members-only club in Hollywood
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or a Las Vegas show, the answer is, of course, a members-only magic club in Hollywood.
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You hit the wrong button. You muffed that one? Doug did that on purpose.
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He's trying to let me catch up a little bit.
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Look, I'm half blind. I can't see. What did you pick?
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Magic Circle. I thought it was a magician's retreat in the UK.
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I thought it was a magic circle.
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You know what I'm feeling here? Yeah, this is what we're doing.
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It's great we're doing this version, but I feel like after today,
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I think we're going to, if it's always two people, this should be,
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I think, two of whoever the audience feels like are the best history people.
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It should be them versing each other and us commentating.
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We were talking about different ways to do this. Like we said,
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this is a test run and we can have that conversation after the show.
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Okay, moving on.
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Let's keep it professional. We always do. Okay.
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Sorry for commentating on this commentary. Which magician's act included producing
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and manipulating doves, often while appealing slightly drunk?
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Was it A, Lance Burton, B, Doug Henning, C, Max Malini, or D, Cardini?
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Ah, yes. I fondly remember Doug Henning's drunk act. It was so good.
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Let me just put that answer in there.
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Oh, I did the Cardini button. And the answer is D, Cardini, whose elegant act
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features flawless light of hand while acting slightly inebriated.
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Also complete with performing with white gloves and a monocle like the Monopoly guy. Next question.
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Which magician wrote the classic magic text Modern Magic?
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Was it A, Jean Cugard, B, David Devon, C, Professor Hoffman, or D, Robert Houdin?
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And the correct answer is C, Professor Hoffman, which Modern Magic was released
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in 1876 and was one of the first major books revealing the Conjuring Methods.
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The current scores are down to Doug with a staggering lead of over 8,000 points
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where Josh is trailing not far behind with just over 6,000 points.
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On to the next question.
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Okay, well, that's the first segment
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down. The next section is going to be called Obscure but legendary.
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So I found some pretty interesting questions, very obscure, very old. Are you guys ready?
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Born ready, baby. Let's do it. The first question is, who was the first magician
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to levitate a person on stage?
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Was it A, John Neville Masculine, B, Robert Houdin, C, Horace Golden,
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or D, William Davenport?
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You have 10 seconds.
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Beep, boop, beep, boop, beep, boop. This could be a trick question. No.
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You guys both got it wrong. The correct answer is A, Masculine, who debated.
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Oh, my God. Yes, we had a conversation about this when we interviewed Masculine's son.
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The war magician, where this was a trick that he'd done back in the 1860s,
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long before it became a staple in the stage magic realm.
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So I'm glad we're all learning a little something today, my friends.
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Are you ready for the next question?
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Here we go. which magician was nicknamed the
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white mahatma was it a harry keller
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b howard thurston c samir
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baldwin or d chandu these
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are obscure and they are difficult you have seven seconds
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remaining i like it though i don't know
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man i don't know that's a tough one well that's
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great you both got the answer wrong the correct answer is harry
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keller harry keller adopted the nickname during
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his eastern themed magic tours and there
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we are no points for either one of you guys answer the
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next question who was the first female magician to tour with her own full evening
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show in the early 20th century was it a pauline de ver b adelaide herman c talma
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or d del odell The correct answer is B,
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Adelaide Herman, as we just mentioned in the previous questions.
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Next question. Which magician was most famous for throwing playing cards with lethal precision?
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Was it A, Jack Gwynn, B, LeGrand David, C, Ricky Jay, or D, Bobby Baxter? Your answers, please.
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The correct answer, great, gentlemen. The answer is Ricky Jay.
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Anyone who's seen his performance, he was actually able to launch these cards
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into fruit, wood, and even flesh. And he literally wrote a book on it.
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The book for extra points is
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called Cards as Weapons. I expected more from you guys. Where are you at?
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We have a copy on the shelf at Trick Supply. Hard copy. 300 bucks.
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Oof. I still, despite that, I still suffer from short-term memory loss.
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I can remember magic trivia pretty good i'll accept that one question yeah okay
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all right let's let's again these are very obscure and they're very difficult
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so let's see how you guys enjoy these next ones here we go.
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Which magician popularized the concept of card to wallet trick?
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Was it A, Tony Corinda, B, Fred Capps, C, Al-Quran, or D, Jack Kent Tiller?
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And you both got that one correct. The answer is Fred Capps.
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He turned it into his mainstream performance. I actually use Fred Capps' wallets.
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Totally represent. And you both got that one correct. Well done.
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Just an update on scores.
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Josh is on the prowl. he's chasing yeah he's
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getting right back up there again doug with 10 000 points and
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josh just shy of 9 000 points let's go
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to the next question pause i want to shout out steve
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bellabeau he made it tonight what's up steve good
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to see you steve question for the roommate when i
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was 18 which magician famously performed
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in a tuxedo while underwater in a giant
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glass tank was it a the great lafayette b
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mr giovanni the subquatic sorcerer c
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the great thomsoni or was it d
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nobody i made that shit up was that
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an answer i would have yeah oh so should i hit that answer yeah the answer was
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yeah the answer in true nick k fashion was nobody i made it up had i made it
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to thinking about my old buddy, Steve Belver.
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Well, this is where, you know, distractions happen in the field,
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buddy. And this is a game. Man, I missed the best question of the whole thing.
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Josh is on a streak with four correct answers, listeners. And we are approaching
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the end of the run. So let's boogie.
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Who created the famous Twisting the Aces routine? Was it A, Owensley,
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B, Larry Jennings, C, Vernon?
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Okay well you guys what the hell is this Vernon or Vernon,
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Oh, another Nick K bullshit. Another Nick. Yeah, correct.
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My points back. It's not fair because Norbido missed it.
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I answered Vernon. One of you answered Alex Almsley and one of you answered Vernon.
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And then I also put Diver and just to throw you guys off. So I told you,
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I'm gonna make this fun for me too.
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Now, look, even though the Almsley count is what we use for the effect,
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it was Vernon that created the classic ace effect.
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Now, let's be clear that Vernon created that after seeing Alex Elmsley's four-card
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trick, which has cards reversing in a small packet.
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And it also has that transformation phase, which Vernon so eloquently used in his routine.
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And for shizzle, if it wasn't for Alex Elmsley, we wouldn't have that routine
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today. But yeah, Vernon's the right answer. I want my points back.
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Josh is only trailing behind by a thousand points. let's
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let's go which magician was known for producing coins from thin air with a signature
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back and forth flourish was it a nate leipzig b t nelson downs c slidini or d pat page,
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oh one of you got the answer correct and that is t nelson
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downs that is correct he was known as like the king of coins any of his time
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and that is one of the most beautiful flourishes the jai as a coin guy use regularly
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so well done did you really answer slidini on that one i'm gonna start mocking
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your wrong answers yeah i got no idea so all i can do is try and answer.
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Okay we're almost at the end of the round so hang in there fellas and we'll
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take a breather here we go which of these magicians was known for mentalism
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and a bizarre mind reading act involving sealed envelopes?
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Was it A, Doug Henning, B, Lennart Green, C, Channing Pollock,
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or D, The Amazing Kreskin?
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Or D, though.
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That's not even, I can't even mark that. We had a Kreskin episode.
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We did. We did have a Kreskin episode, and that is correct.
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It was not Doug Henning. The answer was The Amazing Kreskin,
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which was a thought reading yeah it's um it involved very little sleight of
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hand as well as I can say about that so Doug Henney never even pretended to read minds he was he was,
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Master of the material. I will say I've watched like hardly zero content of
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both of those magicians. So I think that's why.
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Kids these days don't know where they come from.
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Well, that's what it's about, friends. You got to know where you came from to
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know where you're going. I think this is the last question before the round wrap.
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If Doug wasn't wearing rainbows, you're not wearing a baseball cap when you're
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performing. That's what I'm saying.
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I did pick him. so you know we'd all still be in tuxedos i was rooting for him
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i picked doug but he didn't.
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He didn't come through it was a good wrong answer yeah and
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it was cool to see the doug henning collection at magic
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live as well so that was a beautiful little
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privilege to be a part of so okay we have one more
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before we take a short break and jump back into it so last question
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here we go that's worth double points so whose show
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ended up with a rotating mirror illusion revealing all
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the assistants in the show were the same person was
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it a victor vojtko was it b
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doug henning c david devont
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or d nobody i made that
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up i think we know the answer here the answer
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is correct
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nobody i made that shit up so
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yeah but i look i still think it's a good idea so
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you know i deserve some credit there
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that's a great idea i thought i was thinking
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deviant till i saw d as an answer yeah but
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it's a cool idea right yeah it is a cool idea yeah i
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thought so too so oh thank you thank you now doug you just hit another streak
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with three correct answers in a row this puts you with a point score of 14 000
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and one point just trailing behind ever so slightly with 11,463 points.
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That is a pretty good hustle, gentlemen. Now.
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Do we have any announcements before we press into the next half of the show?
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I would like to apologize in advance for the trouncing Norbita is about to get.
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Shots fired! I will say, do make it a point to message us or comment on this
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video if you like this format.
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Because this is obviously a trial form of episode that Nick has put a lot of
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effort into. So if you're listening to this on Spotify and you're like,
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oh, I like this, do let us know.
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And if you don't like it, please also let us know because we're here trying
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to make the bestest stuff for you guys.
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So before I go in and beat Doug, I just wanted to let you know that you can
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tell us your honest opinion.
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Yeah, I think it would be fun to have three contestants and have the audience play along.
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So like three large contestants, meaning like you two guys plus a guest.
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I think that would be a really fun time, you know? And if the guest beats us,
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they now get to take our place as host.
26:52
Oh, that's funny. Whoever loses, loses their job.
26:56
It's the retirement match. Yeah. Whoever loses gets to stop paying the expenses
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of the podcast. Oh, okay.
27:05
Okay, gentlemen, take a sip of your coffee, take a deep breath,
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and charge your brains up because it's going to get interesting.
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All right. I'm ready for this.
27:13
Let me guess. Section three is Australian magic history.
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Well this one i call who said this quote in which i will be presenting a few
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sayings that should be pretty you know i like it i like yeah pretty pretty common
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ground for most magicians but the question remains who said it let's start with
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the first one here we go the question is,
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who said a magician is an actor
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playing the part of a magician was it
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a ty vernon b houdini c
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robert hudan or d orson wells
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and you both got that one
27:53
correct the answer being robert hudan it's a
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legendary quote from robert hudan who shaped modern magic
27:59
as we know it well done to you both for getting that one
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correct yeah he was the link to doug because he's
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the one that put the tuxedo on now who said magic
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is the only honest profession a magician promises to
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deceive you and he does so was it a darren brown b ricky j c teller d and gillette
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unfortunately gentlemen the answer is ricky j and you both got that answer oh
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my god yes what did you pick doug.
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Teller yeah ricky j actually said
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it in an interview and it's been reflecting in our philosophy ever
28:37
since now that you say that i do i do recall that yeah i see him saying those
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words yeah it was a it was an interview for the notes i have here about um elegant
28:47
cons and performances so that is yeah i think that's in his biography if you
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see um he's done a couple full-length features uh,
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Boy, that's a good question that I can't bring an answer to.
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The Ricky Jay, it's like a biography of Ricky Jay. Mm-hmm.
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All right. Deceptive Practices. There we go.
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Deceptive Practices. Okay, now this is going to be. I think that quote's in there.
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Well, this is going to be a bit of a tricky one, so take your time with it, friends. So here we go.
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The question is, who said, if you don't believe in magic, you'll never find it?
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Santa. A, Paul Daniels, B, Roald Dahl, C, Lance Burton, or D, Doug Henning.
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If you don't believe in magic, you'll never find it.
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Wasn't this the good witch of the West? Where is she? She's not on here.
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I'm going to go with this.
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Now, one of you got to correct. All right. One of you chose Doug Henning.
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That is incorrect. The correct answer is actually Roald Dahl.
29:51
Now, while not a magician, Roald Dahl's quote is believed by magicians and often
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printed in posters and books and on merchandise.
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So, Roald Dahl being the famous author of which book for extra points?
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I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know. I just know that much.
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Josh, how did you know that?
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Oh, I just knew that's the one I didn't know of. So, it was probably him. Oh. I like your style.
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Here's a very easy... The next one's an easy one. I expect you both to jump
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in at breakneck speed. Are you ready for this?
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Here we go. The question is... Who said confusion is not magic?
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Was it? Nick K. Eugene Berger. B.
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Juan Tamariz. C. Max Maven. Or D.
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Harry Lorraine. What? Oh, damn it. I definitely clicked too early. Damn it.
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I, Vernon, said that. Yeah. Where'd you get those answers? Juan Tamariz.
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Juan Tamariz said that? The hell.
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Well, at least Josh missed it too. Hmm. Pretty sure Vernon said that,
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but he probably copied Temeri, so whatever.
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Well, you know, sometimes it'd be like that. Vernon's going to burn him.
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Okay. Now, this is going to be an interesting one. I feel like,
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Doug, I'm going to put my money on you for this one.
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So let's throw it out there. I hope it's a Marlowe question.
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Close. But the question is, who said, it's not the trick that counts,
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it's the trickster? Was it A, Tommy Wonder, B, Eugene Berger,
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C, Sladini, or D, David Copperfield? Damn it.
31:27
The answers are in, and the correct answer is Eugene Berger.
31:31
That's right, who focused heavily on character, connection, and meaning in Magic,
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which a lot of folks don't know. I almost hit number one.
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I almost hit number one, but then I know that in the performance of Close-Up
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Magic, Eugene talks about the trickster. And I was like, it's Eugene.
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Yep. And the answer is correct, my friends. Now, by the way, great book.
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Yeah. Here's one of my favorites. Who said a sucker is born every minute?
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Was it a Max Malini, B, Harry Houdini, C, the great Lafayette or D, P.T.
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Bonham? The answers are in. The correct answer is P.T. Bonham. Oh, thank God.
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Yes. Have you ever watched The Greatest Sherman, this movie with,
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you know, Huge Jackman. Greatest Sherman. Yeah, Hugh Jackman.
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Yep. You liked it or not? I was going to watch it again. The wife said she didn't
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like it. What are your thoughts on this movie?
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I care a little for pop culture. Yeah.
32:26
Haters are going to hate. What do you think, Josh? Well, it depends what her
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alternative offer is of movie.
32:33
It's always this. Crime thrillers. Like, I can't escape crime thrillers.
32:40
I'm not a fan of all the singing on Greatest Showman, but I like the movie.
32:46
No, you're on my wife's side. I get it. Move on. I don't need to read it anymore.
32:50
All right. Time for the next question, friends. Again, it's worth double points
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as we're nearing the end.
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And the question is, who said magic should not only fool the eye, but touch the heart?
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Was it A, Cyril Takayama? B, Justin Willman?
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C, Darren Brown? Or D, Doug Hanning? You have nine seconds.
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Gentlemen, you both got it correct. The answer is Doug Henning,
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who believed magic is wonder, not just trickery.
33:20
Next question. Who said amateurs practice until they get it right?
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Professionals practice till they can't get it wrong. Was it A,
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Johnny Thompson, B, Lenny Green, C, Tony Slidini, or D, Di Vernon?
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I feel like they all could have said this. Yeah, I agree. Someone said it first,
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and one of you got the answer correct.
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Suck it, Doug. I mean, that's unfortunate.
33:50
Doug yeah that i i
33:53
deserve some of that no problem well doug
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selected johnny thompson but the correct answer was chosen by
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josh nabito and the correct answer is die vernon
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yeah that makes sense this quote is often using magic lectures especially in
34:07
sleight of hand circles so well done or for vernon it would have been the gaming
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table you know he'd like to study the real work and for sure that that quote
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applies to if you're cheating at cards.
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Now, Josh making a comeback. He's just taking the lead.
34:24
Let's go. Things just got serious. That's right.
34:28
The current standings and Josh
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Napita with 20,429 points and Doug trailing behind with 20,291 points.
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So it's anyone's game, my friends, but Josh making the comeback.
34:41
Let's see what the next question is.
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So Here we go. Who said the hand is quicker than the eye?
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Your choices are A, nobody knows, B, Houdini, C, Professor Hoffman, or D, Mark Wilson.
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You both chose Professor Hoffman, and the true answer is that nobody knows.
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Wait, I clicked nobody knows, but it said the answer is Professor Hoffman. What's going on here?
35:13
We both chose Nobody Knows, but it said the answer is Professor Hoffman.
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Oh, okay. Well, you both got the same point, so it doesn't matter. Moving on.
35:21
Wait, you don't know your own questions? Well, I got it here on my notes that
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it's Nobody Knows, but the computer said.
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It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You both got it right. Moving on.
35:38
Now, we are pressing on to what I believe is the final round. 10 questions remain.
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The points very close in nature. Not more than 200 points separating them.
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In the lead, Josh Nibido. What? The next segment.
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The next segment is titled, Who Created the Card Move?
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Who Created That Card Move?
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Fuck. Let's go.
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Both you guys have amazing knowledge. Josh Nibito with being the amazing sleight
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of hand artist he is, but does he know what he practices?
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Is Marlo going to be a choice on every single question? I hope so.
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Not on everyone. Not on everyone, but I bet the next one is Marlo,
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but let's see. Alrighty. Are you ready?
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Ready. The question is, and if you get this one wrong, I'm going to disown you.
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Alright, the question is for double points, Who created the Almsley Count?
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Was it A. Guantamerese B. Marlowe C. Dye Vernon or D.
36:47
Alex Almsley Correct. The answer was Alex Almsley.
36:51
He's a Scottish magician who created this false count originally called the
36:54
Ghost Count for those who are wondering.
36:58
Inspired by Ellis Stanyan's I Count the EYE Count was the precursor to the Almsley
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Count if you need to know that. Oh, that's a pro tip.
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See? We're sharing knowledge. Yeah, about Alistanyan, there's no Elmsley count. That's right.
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Now, keep it in mind. We're sharing knowledge. We're testing knowledge.
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There's a lot of pressure on you boys.
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And, you know, diamonds make pressure and also rubble.
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Let's see who's going to crumble under the pressure of the next question. That'd be me.
37:28
I'm sure if anyone would crumble, it'd be me.
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Who was credited with popularizing the double lift as a coarse line of hand?
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It was at A, Divernon, B, T, Nelson Down, C, S, W, Erdnase, or D, Marlowe.
37:46
One of you got a correct. The answer was die, Vernon. Marla, let me down. God damn it.
37:51
It's all right, buddy. You're doing pretty good. Because it was Vernon who actually
37:53
helped refine and spread the use of the double in close-up magic.
37:57
So let's have a look at them. Oh, Doug has just taken the lead.
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He answered a quick few. All right.
38:08
All right. Now, here's this next one. This is going to be interesting.
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Now, friends, this is a double-point scenario. so you don't want to
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get this one wrong because the question is who created the snap change was it
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a ed marlowe b paul harris c wait john hughard or d i'll get ed marlowe twice
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oh the answer was ed marlowe that's great oh come on but if we click the wrong
38:31
ed marlowe and got it wrong.
38:35
And i clicked it faster so i deserve an extra 0.3 points yeah it was ed marlowe
38:41
yeah i don't know I didn't have anyone to practice this with when I created
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it. I only got Marlo as an answer.
38:48
Now we lose. Well, you guys did great.
38:52
Next question is, and this is going to be interesting, actually,
38:56
because it's sort of torn between two people from what I was told,
38:59
so I committed to this answer, which I do believe is the correct one.
39:04
Nick Jays, rewriting Magic History live on YouTube tonight.
39:08
The question is, who developed the classic pass? Was it A. Is that a question?
39:15
Eugene, Robert, who Dan? Was it B. Nate Leipzig? Was it C. S.
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W. Erdnase or D. Jonathan Hobson, sir?
39:23
You both got it incorrect because the correct answer is S. W. Erdnase.
39:28
Now, while it's predated, Erdnase documented and detailed the past in expert
39:35
at the card table. So that's why.
39:38
Yeah, but go look at modern magic. It's not in there.
39:42
Under great detail it might not be but i'm telling you
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yeah yeah it's a tricky
39:47
one and look i'm i'm here to i'm here to set the
39:50
world afire so you know but here's okay here's
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another past question so let's see how you guys go with
39:56
this one so get your brains ready i don't know man i don't
39:58
know i'd rather grumble about your choice of answers for
40:02
this is going to be definitive so you're not going to be upset about this
40:05
one because the question is this get your buttons ready moving
40:08
on the question is who invented the bluff pass was it a jimmy grippo b di vernon
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c larry jennings or d bill malone you have 13 why really yeah you don't know this one,
40:27
i think i do i don't think the answer's on here well friends you both got it
40:32
wrong the correct answer is Larry Jennings created this clever move that simulates
40:37
the past without actually executing one.
40:41
Okay, whatever you say, Dick. I can't wait to read your book on the history of card magic.
40:47
I'm just waiting for one of you to get mad about it to see if it's on fire.
40:51
The question should be, who does Nick think invented the bluff pass?
40:56
I was looking to make sure Marlow wasn't on the list twice, and then he wasn't on the list once.
41:03
It's a Harlow technique.
41:07
Richard Kaufman probably published the real truth and gave it to Larry Jennings,
41:12
but for Christ's sake, the bluff pass is Marla.
41:15
You're talking about lifting the top card as the whole pack?
41:18
That's the bluff pass. Yeah. This idea.
41:22
Yeah. Okay. Marla.
41:26
Look, Doug, you are still currently in the lead with 24,009 points. Just trailing behind.
41:32
That's right. So you are on 24,009 points. Just trailing behind on 22,313 points.
41:39
It is still anyone's game.
41:40
I'm going to press C for the next answer no matter what the question is,
41:44
just so everyone knows. I love that.
41:46
I'm over here trying to reference the bluff pass. Alright. Here we go.
41:51
Okay, the question is for double points, who invented the invisible turnover pass? Oh my god.
41:59
A. Steve Duran. B.
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Guy Hollingsworth. C. Ken Krenzel. or D, Derek Dingle.
42:08
And you both got it wrong. Sorry, it was Steve Duran.
42:12
That's right. He combines the
42:14
sleight of hand and misdirection with elegance. It's a beautiful thing.
42:16
But again, I wasn't going to make this easy.
42:20
In fact, I was intending to make it annoying and upset you guys.
42:24
And if you're out there, jump in and help me stop this madness.
42:30
And the thing was Kahoot wouldn't let me make up
42:33
trick questions uh so you guys are lucky because remember
42:36
last time when we did it had been steve drawn though no
42:40
yeah you had the midnight shift but
42:42
that wasn't uh i digress
42:46
i'm still winning right can we move on you're
42:49
still winning let's move on to the next question there's only three questions
42:52
left lads so brace uh actually i hope it's
42:55
more questions about the past brace yourselves
42:58
the question is double points
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who developed the one-handed top palm was it a lenit green b alex elmsley c
43:09
edward victor or d ed marlo come on marlo don't let me down this time i don't guess it's marlo.
43:20
I'm going, I'm giving you a chance, Norbido. Well, one of you got the answer
43:25
correct. The answer is Edward Victor. That's correct.
43:28
Let's go. Yes. Yeah.
43:31
He introduced this slick move, allowing the palm with just a single hand.
43:37
Props to him. Doug extending his lead by. I think Doug's got it.
43:42
I think it's pretty clear. Anyone's game, buddy.
43:45
I've got some annoying questions. Bro, I've got annoying questions up ahead
43:49
just to upset you guys. I always end the show with upsetting you guys when it
43:51
comes to trivia. It's like my thing, okay?
43:53
Remember the truth or false one? It could be like, this question could be worth
43:58
a million points, Josh. We don't know what's coming up.
44:00
That's right. Okay. This is bullshit.
44:04
Next question. Who created the spread pass? Who did the fuck? No, sorry.
44:11
It was another fast question. Oh, my God, it's not on here. Was it A, Charlie Miller?
44:17
Come on, Marlo. was it b steve dron
44:20
was it c derek dingle or was it a marlow
44:23
who was it almost i don't even want to push a button because the answer is not
44:27
on there i'm gonna hit marlowe whatever it's paul la paul is the answer yeah
44:32
both got it wrong it's credited to charlie miller really though yeah how about
44:38
everyone go crack open the card magic of paul la paul.
44:44
I'd be surprised if Miller published it before that, but whatever.
44:48
All right. I'm just, we'll just, all right. Well, okay. Go. This will be an
44:51
easy one. Miller's a genius. He might've had it before Paul LaPaul.
44:55
He might've put it in expert card technique, maybe. I don't know.
44:59
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's correct.
45:00
Okay. Well, look. Stefan has apparently left us.
45:03
No backup in the chat. Stefan, I need you to go. I need some card expertise.
45:10
Okay. The next one will be interesting. Okay. You should be pretty comfortable
45:14
with this one, so brace yourselves.
45:16
And the question is, who is credited with inventing the side steel?
45:20
Was it A, Marlowe, B, S.W.
45:24
Erdnase? Was it C, Bill Goodwin, or D, Di Vernon? You have 11 seconds.
45:30
All right, I'm not picking Marlowe this time, but if it is, I'm leaving.
45:35
Well, I believe that one of you got it correct, because the correct answer is S.W. Erdnase.
45:42
Let's go. And that is because it appeared in the expert at the card table,
45:48
although Vernon later better refined it.
45:51
So credit to you. Points to Josh.
45:55
Slowly catching up to Doug. Doug still currently with a 25,069 nice points.
46:01
And Josh at 23,905 nice points.
46:07
Can we agree next time there's card magic questions, I write them.
46:15
Where is Nate Lipzig in that question I guess if you want to write a trivia
46:21
you go for it but I'm going to write a trivia and I'm going to put in a few things to upset you,
46:26
is the side steal an expert yeah is it yeah.
46:32
I don't like that book that much, so it might be in there. Well, that's on you, buddy.
46:36
Okay. It's a good book. It's a hard read. I don't like to work that hard.
46:40
Oh, yeah. It's dry as hell, but you know, it's only good fun.
46:43
Next question. Here we go. There's only a couple more to go,
46:45
fellas, so hang in there. Here we go.
46:48
The question is, who created the top shot move that's shooting the card from
46:54
the deck? Was it Paul Gertner?
46:56
A. Was it B, Ricky J, C, Debbie Williamson, or D, Leonard Green?
47:01
The correct answer being Leonard Green correct yes yeah I think it was originally
47:08
taught in these like these Greenhouse VHS tapes I think so you know props to
47:13
Leonard Green on that one that was last question,
47:16
question go on we have a retort go on man yells at cloud I think he added in
47:23
lecture notes before the VHS I think there was a top shot manuscript probably
47:28
back when paper was a thing yeah And dinosaurs roam the earth.
47:33
Yeah, the internet used to be on paper, kids. It's a wild, wild evolution.
47:37
All right, guys, I think it's our last question. Are you ready? All right. Ready.
47:42
All right. So I have very confidence that Josh, you're going to do great in
47:46
this one. So brace yourself. You ready, buddy?
47:48
Shut up. All right. Now, look, the final question, the points are this.
47:56
Doug with 26,981. Josh with $25,699. It is anyone's game.
48:05
Here we go. Ready? The final question is...
48:09
Who created the Sybil cut? Was it? A. Chris Kenner. B. Jerry.
48:16
Oh, you guys answered it immediately.
48:18
We had some options like Brian Trudor. We also had options like Dan and Dave
48:22
Buck, but you both nailed it with breakneck speed and you both got it correct. It was Chris Kenner.
48:29
And surprisingly, you too got the answer correct. Yeah.
48:39
Oh yes it was introduced in his
48:41
book totally out of control which was released in 1992 and
48:45
became the foundation of modern card flourishing so props
48:48
to him that's right yeah the boss yeah and
48:52
inspired people like the buck twins and beyond
48:55
so this is the podium in third
48:58
place me for making the crap up so and then
49:02
josh answering 20 correct out of 41
49:05
questions and doug answering 25 questions correctly
49:09
out of 41 giving him first place a first winner and first place of the very
49:16
first medic trivia by the magic guys please put your hands together for the
49:21
lsbs doug on thank you Thank you,
49:26
both of you Wait, go back, I want to click that give feedback button That was fun,
49:37
I really thought I was going to crush you And this would not be fun because
49:41
of it But that was not a runaway We were fighting for the win.
49:49
It is surprising how quickly you do
49:52
become invested in winning like at the
49:55
beginning I was like I just won't answer quickly so
49:58
people do get a chance to play in the comments and then
50:01
five minutes in I'm like fuck the viewers I'm winning I'm clicking
50:04
fast you know interesting I I would be really interested to see how our viewers
50:10
go in future ones maybe we do one where it's like 10 minutes worth of questions
50:14
and it's like you know our viewers go head to head it'd be cool to have like
50:17
a running tally I like it well look there there's a lot of potential with this particular software.
50:23
And I thought, look, there is the opportunity to practice that it could be fun.
50:27
And again, all we want to do ultimately is not only entertain you guys,
50:31
but also educate you guys and give you an opportunity to learn something along
50:34
the way and to debate things along the way as well.
50:37
But it seems, you know, but that is the purpose of what we do here.
50:40
It's about exchanging knowledge and having a good time.
50:44
I'm trouncing Norbido.
50:49
I'm going to make a shirt saying, I lost to Doug Conn on Kahoot.
50:54
Yeah. Yeah. But I think it goes to show that there is always going to be that
50:57
notion of people pushing back against, no, I believe this person did it. No, I disagree.
51:03
You know, it happens in pretty much all types of culture.
51:06
Like it's very prominent in like a car race culture as well.
51:10
You know, people will arguably say, no, no, no. Ken Miles was the first person
51:13
to ever get the Triple Crown because he was robbed of it.
51:16
If you've ever seen the four-bit card. While I was joking around there,
51:19
I'm not saying the answers are wrong because there is lineage.
51:23
I know the palm change is in the expert at the card table.
51:27
This could be considered a side steal action.
51:30
And so, yeah, you might have been the nail on the head for many of those questions,
51:34
but I think everyone needs to go look at the magic of Paul LaPaul.
51:39
Yeah. Yeah, the hop spread.
51:42
Yeah, and I'd love to be, if it creates discussion in the Discord,
51:45
and if I was entirely wrong, then hey, man, I'd love that as well.
51:48
You know what I mean? But as long as we're exchanging knowledge with each other,
51:50
I think that's important. You know?
51:53
Agreed. Yeah. Yeah, nice.
51:57
Well, in our last couple of minutes, I do have just a funny gig story-esque
52:02
from performing in the country over the weekend.
52:05
I have a lot. If you guys have any other gig stories too. just for the listeners,
52:08
something to consider is I was hired to perform in this country town for like
52:14
the whole, like three days.
52:15
And one of the days I'm performing on a stage that's outdoors and I get there
52:22
and I can see, and I'll put this up, I'll put this up in the discord,
52:26
but essentially there's like a risen big stage.
52:29
Then there's a blocked off area that people can't go near because it's got speakers and stuff.
52:36
Then there's like a big area where I guess people are being used for as a dance
52:41
area for when there's music acts on.
52:43
Then there's a road going through the town.
52:48
Then there's another patch of grass and then there's the seats where the audience
52:52
are all sitting because it's near the outside bar marquee like that they're
52:57
going to be watching my show from.
52:59
So I watched these new friends of mine do a kid's show to one person.
53:05
There was one girl that walked all the way up, crossed the road,
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went through the field, got to the front where the dance area was.
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And they went hard, but I was like, my magic show is going to die in the ass
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if I have to do a show for people that, you know, 30 meters away.
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So what I had to do was the hour leading up to it was do roving magic for everyone at the bar area.
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And then say 10 minutes before, Hey, I'm doing a whole massive thing on the
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stage and everyone's going to bring their chairs and come all the way up and
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sit them right in front where the dance area is.
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And I was like, everyone's going to do it. So make sure when I announce it,
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come on over. And I said that to everyone.
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And thank God everyone was like, oh, everyone's doing it. Okay, great.
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And so the whole crowd from the bar moved.
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The bar basically moved all the seating area to where the stage was.
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And thank God we had a good time and we did this show.
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But I was otherwise, because I'll send the video i would
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have it would have just been horrendous so sometimes
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when you get there you have the ability to change
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your surroundings and settings because otherwise if you just go with what they've
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set up it can be a nightmare so that was love that man make it work that was
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my fun little win yeah now we know now maybe someone out there will remember
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these wise words and be like, get your chairs over here.
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Yeah, yeah, 100%. Walk up to them, say hi, do a bit of magic and go,
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well, if you want to see more, like, and I think the inclusion of everyone's
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going to do it makes everyone go, oh, yeah, cool.
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Yeah, great. In 10 minutes, we all move over there.
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I was performing the week on Saturday and I met this really cool group of folks.
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And, you know, I asked her, what do you guys do? And this one guy in particular
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is like, oh, I'm in mechatronics. And I'm like, what's that?
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He's like, you know, robots and stuff. I'm like sick you ever build anything
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cool it's like yeah yeah I got like this robot arm and it does like all kinds
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of stuff I'm like for real it goes yeah yeah I'd like program it to like play
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chess and stuff I'm like oh yeah can it um,
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And I start doing this like jerk off thing and I'm like, does it fucking,
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and everyone just starts laughing.
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And he was like, and he, and he thought about it.
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Like he's just in the distance. He went, I mean, yeah, it could.
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And he was like, it could. And everyone just lost it.
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And I'm like, bro, I'm not going to put my dong in a robot's hand,
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rip it clean off. That's out of control.
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But uh i mean that's your choice yeah that's totally fair you
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know some people be like that but that was a fun exchange so
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yeah what about
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you doug have you fully recovered from magic live yet
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yes i've been rebuilding our humble
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magic shop trick supply i feel
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like it's you know after dragging half the store to the dealer's
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room we're getting them back in order and back to making new magicians if there's
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been something exciting in my world recently it's the wonderful amount of female
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magicians aspiring young magicians that are coming into the store and you know
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i'm eating some like 20 somethings that are into advanced card magic and younger.
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Younger like teens coming in and again interested
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in developing their card magic skills and it's great
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to see all the magic nerds but certainly to be in an age where not
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only are you not wearing tuxedos and dunce caps but
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now we're so cool that anybody can do this art
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for them it's not just the older men's club anymore
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yeah yeah and that's how it
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should be you know i i would love to see
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more more women in magic i think that's just one
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of the coolest things happening well i i you know what i i find on our side
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of the planet which is a little disheartening but there is there's some kids
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that have been growing up through our junior program and then they and they
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are they've like They're just so on path to be absolute superstars,
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like comedy genius, the whole thing.
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And then they kind of hit 18 and just stop.
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And it's such a shame. Yeah. Yeah. And I hope that perhaps someday they might
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decide to come back to it.
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I see these people in the store regularly, these 50-year-olds that,
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hey, I used to do this when I was 18, and then I went to college, and I got sidetracked.
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And now that I have success in life and a family, I want to share this art with
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my children and I'm reintroducing myself to it late in life.
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We can enjoy magic even in our fifties.
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Yeah. You know, I think so.
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You know, do you ever wonder like when you'll stop doing magic?
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Like, do you ever think about that? Like, do you ever think that like you'll
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have to stop someday? No, no.
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Me neither. I mean, because I enjoy it on so many levels, I think even if my
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hands don't work, I'd still be involved in it somehow.
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Yeah, I'm halfway through reading Jonathan Goodwin's book, who was an amazing
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daredevil escape artist from the UK, and then since then has now confined to a wheelchair.
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And it's still remarkable the amount of output he has. And, and,
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you know, at his lecture in Vegas, he was saying how, like, how he's like the
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happiest he's ever been.
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And I just, I love that for him like so much that even though he can't do stuff,
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he still loves creating and nothing stops him. And it's just, it's so inspiring.
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Like I'm, I'm so inspired by him and we hope to, to share him with you guys in the very new future.
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Scotty wants to die in front of an audience of children in the true time.
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Yeah. Boys of glory, baby. that's the kind of comment i was waiting to see before
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we end the podcast we'll see you next week,
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thanks for listening it's time for us to disappear now disappear now but we'll
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see you again on the next episode of the magic guys.