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Jaguars Happy Hour | Reviewing the '26 Draft Class · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirtieth.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jetlars Happy Hours.
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  Speaker 3: And now the Sonya Blade of Sports Broadcasting.
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  Speaker 2: Kai Nani Stevens.
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm coming out fighting today, guys. I've been
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  Speaker 4: on every single show. I'm Kaanni Stevens. Apologies if you're
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  Speaker 4: sick of me, because I've been on every show this week.
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  Speaker 4: But JP shatters out and about someone for a happy
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  Speaker 4: Hour this week, and I am very happy to be
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  Speaker 4: with Jeff Logman coach Mark Duffner. It's exciting to talk
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  Speaker 4: about football again. We actually have draft picks to discuss.
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  Speaker 4: This is going to be a good one coming up
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  Speaker 4: on the show. Of course, we will talk about that
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  Speaker 4: entire draft hall that they've got ten picks that are
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  Speaker 4: coming into town, some surprises for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 4: of course, and then we have to discuss the consensus
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  Speaker 4: s bored because that's a big that's a big controversy
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  Speaker 4: this week, and I've talked to Bucky Brooks about it.
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  Speaker 4: I've talked to John Oser about it. I already talk
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  Speaker 4: to you guys about it.
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  Speaker 2: But by the way, a great job on a one
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  Speaker 2: on one interviews.
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  Speaker 4: It's fun. That's like one of my favorite things for
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  Speaker 4: the draft picks. Yeah, because it's you know, you're talking
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  Speaker 4: to the guys that have picked these players and know
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  Speaker 4: them better than most, right, and we're all like, usually,
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  Speaker 4: I will say, especially picking later in the draft, you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: who is this guy? So please tell me as much
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  Speaker 4: as you caught about them. But yeah, I was able
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  Speaker 4: to talk to GM, James Gladstone and some of the coaches,
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  Speaker 4: coordinators and all that, some of the scouting staff, so
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  Speaker 4: that's really fun for me. But you get to be
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  Speaker 4: at the draft party, so that's always fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. And it was a great show and
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  Speaker 2: the Wings were great as always, and that's the most
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much for the Wings. They were outstanding again,
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  Speaker 2: and you know it was it was I've never done
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  Speaker 2: a draft show for rounds two and three. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: I liked it because there's more picks, oh heck yes.
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  Speaker 4: And it goes faster now too, when they've cut down
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  Speaker 4: the clocks from ten to eight, so everything's like much
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  Speaker 4: more sped up, which we all appreciate because sometimes it
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  Speaker 4: feels like it's dragging. Sure, So I definitely appreciated that,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't want them not to have first round picks.
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  Speaker 4: Going forward. But it was kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Nice there, and I got to say that I love
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  Speaker 2: the flavor of having that that Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania kind of
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  Speaker 2: slant on the people that announced the second round picks
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  Speaker 2: and the third round picks. And I got to give
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  Speaker 2: some props out to a guy you know very well.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Paul loves me.
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  Speaker 4: Was dressed to the not I expected nothing less.
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  Speaker 2: Me too, And on top of that, he looks like
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  Speaker 2: the guy could still play football.
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  Speaker 1: Let mean, hey he could, I guarantee you he could.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about a guy that was focused in on
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  Speaker 3: what he ate and how he trained and what.
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  Speaker 1: His physical stature and health was all about the best.
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  Speaker 2: He did an outstanding job. And and what I loved
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  Speaker 2: about Paul because some of the other guys form were
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  Speaker 2: players that went up there and I won't mention any names, Ingram,
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  Speaker 2: They got up there at the microphone and were clowning, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and had their son kind of clowning on a rival
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  Speaker 2: division and it was like, what are you doing with that?
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  Speaker 2: And Paul so professional, so respectful, and you could tell
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  Speaker 2: that it mattered to him how he pronounced the person's names,
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  Speaker 2: and he wanted to get it right because look, there
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  Speaker 2: was a couple challenging names in the early part of
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars draft class big time, and he did an amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, shoot he I guarantee you he prepared for that
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  Speaker 3: like he prepared to play any game, which was the
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  Speaker 3: way he works the best.
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  Speaker 1: That's the way it works.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit about this draft guys. We'll
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  Speaker 4: get into the nitty gritty of it. But a bit
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  Speaker 4: of a surprise. I don't think anybody I think if
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  Speaker 4: I was a betting moment, I don't think I would
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  Speaker 4: have picked they were going to go with tight end
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  Speaker 4: with their first choice.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I was gonna guess that either. But
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  Speaker 2: then after it happened, And also when you go and
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  Speaker 2: you look back what happened prior to the selection of Borkishire,
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  Speaker 2: then you can kind of see why because you, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, you got to go back to last year
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  Speaker 2: of the Jaguars game against the Rams in London, and
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  Speaker 2: you had Sean McVay who came out with this aim
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  Speaker 2: plan of multiple tight ends. And of course I think
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  Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity here to get your input
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  Speaker 2: doff because there's a strategic thing or reason why offensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinators coaches want to go to multiple tight ends. And
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  Speaker 2: I was told, and I got to get your opinion
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  Speaker 2: on this, because you know more about this than I do.
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  Speaker 2: I was told is because the strategic advantage it simplifies
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  Speaker 2: defenses with more tight ends on the field. Is that true?
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  Speaker 1: Correct?
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  Speaker 3: And that's why as I saw this draft starting to
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  Speaker 3: evolve in terms of the tight ends. And so if
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  Speaker 3: I'm going this is awesome, because I'm gonna tell you
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  Speaker 3: right now. First of all, you're always every week you're
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  Speaker 3: checking does a team run thirteen personnel? That's one of
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  Speaker 3: your checklists as you have numerous ones to check off
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  Speaker 3: because it's an adjustment for you. A lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: aren't built to handle thirteen. They're more, you know, built
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  Speaker 3: to handle eleven and twelve or eleven and ten person.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to just real quick on inject here
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  Speaker 2: because you know, I know that you're, like me, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: use a little bit too much food ball jargon.
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  Speaker 1: Ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Thirteen personnel, for people that don't know, is one back
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  Speaker 2: and three tight ends, which leaves you only one wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver work correct. And so when you hear Duff or
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  Speaker 2: anybody else say eleven personnel it's just the number of backs.
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  Speaker 2: Is the first number correct, okay, and then the second
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  Speaker 2: number is tight end number two. You don't ever mentioned
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver, So like twelve, okay, one back, two tight end,
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  Speaker 2: tight ends eleven one back, one tight end, and you
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  Speaker 2: always have five, so you've got to have three wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: So people know. So thirteen personnel is one back, three
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, one wide receiver direct okay.
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  Speaker 3: So and that is a personnel grouping that number one
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  Speaker 3: can challenge your personnel in terms of do you have
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  Speaker 3: big people that can stop it. Generally it can be
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  Speaker 3: a bullyball type formation, but also play pass, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: It's four minute, it's the end of the game. When
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  Speaker 3: you've got to run out the clock. It's backed up
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  Speaker 3: when you've got to get off the goal line. It's
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  Speaker 3: short yardage goal in in a good first fifteen. But
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  Speaker 3: even then, if you can open and that formation up
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  Speaker 3: and present four wide look open formation like you would
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  Speaker 3: in ten personnel, spread the offense, or you can go
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  Speaker 3: empty formation and you've seen the opponent's defense come in
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  Speaker 3: with the big guys to try to stop the run,
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  Speaker 3: you have as a big advantage to them. So I
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  Speaker 3: think from a scheme standpoint, I think from a what
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  Speaker 3: we bullets we got in our belt with the great
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  Speaker 3: receiving group, I think we have our running backs, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've got ten personnel with guys that are real
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  Speaker 3: guys you're not you don't have a telment. Maybe bringing
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  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman in the game for thirteen because when
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  Speaker 3: you do that they call it thirteen T or thirteen heavy.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of indicates run. This is good stuff, I
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  Speaker 3: think so, And let's go back to they want to
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  Speaker 3: be a team that's physical, that can run the football,
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  Speaker 3: and they've demonstrated that they can. This is another component
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  Speaker 3: that helps that. And here's the other thing with thirteen personnel.
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  Speaker 3: If you utilize what they have, tempo, hurry motion, all
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  Speaker 3: those things. In multiple misalignments, people come out and unbalanced
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  Speaker 3: line in thirteen inch. Sometimes defenses don't recognize it, so
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  Speaker 3: they're misaligned. Now you get the blocking advantages for both
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  Speaker 3: protection and the run game. I think it's a great idea,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they're ahead of the ahead of the
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  Speaker 3: herve here.
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  Speaker 2: And to focus in on Porkashire and I've practiced that
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  Speaker 2: many times.
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  Speaker 4: Leaders I made I made him say it to me twice,
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  Speaker 4: but I.
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  Speaker 2: Got it the time watching the film on him, because
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  Speaker 2: I watched the film on him this week a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He was part of a rotation to where there was
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  Speaker 2: kind of he was one of four and uh so
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  Speaker 2: when when he was on the field, you kind of
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  Speaker 2: had to double check to make sure it was him.
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  Speaker 2: And there was another tight end that they had at
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  Speaker 2: Texas A and M that looked very similar body type
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  Speaker 2: to him. But I will say, very good blocker, really
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  Speaker 2: good blocker, and a lot of people say, well, who
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  Speaker 2: cares you know? Tight and you want to tight end,
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  Speaker 2: they can catch the ball. And if you look at
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  Speaker 2: his stats, his stats are completely unimpressive because he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of receptions.
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  Speaker 4: Probably not give an opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing, you know. If you look at
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  Speaker 2: the opportunities that he had, he was open a lot.
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  Speaker 2: When I say open a lot, a lot. His quarterback
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  Speaker 2: obviously didn't like him very much at Texas A and
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  Speaker 2: M having only been there for one year. I guess
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  Speaker 2: because the quarterback didn't even look his way multiple times
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  Speaker 2: and he's wide open. I'm sitting there watching the field
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  Speaker 2: going throwing the damn ball. Way he's wide open and
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't do it. So given the opportunities, and when
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  Speaker 2: he had the opportunities, he was really good at it.
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  Speaker 2: Uh And I think he's he's a true why tight end,
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  Speaker 2: which you know when I say Y tight end, you
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  Speaker 2: have h tight ends, you have you tight end, you
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  Speaker 2: tight ends, and then tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: There's number of which a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of that is is alive. So just think it's a
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  Speaker 2: why tight end is one that's going to line up
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  Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage tight to the tackle correctly,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where Borkersher, I think is going to be
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  Speaker 2: primarily used out, but he also has the ability to
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  Speaker 2: go to that off the ball split tight end ability.
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  Speaker 2: And what this selection also does is allow, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: to allow Brenton Strange to do what he's going to
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  Speaker 2: do best.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I think we got some fans and just some
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  Speaker 4: interactions wondering if this was any kind of indication as
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  Speaker 4: to what the contract negotiating students were with Brenton Sdrage.
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  Speaker 4: I said, absolutely not. This is to amp him up.
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  Speaker 4: It's not to replace him. It's to make him the
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  Speaker 4: best he can possibly be.
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  Speaker 2: If you can imagine, folks shows, so like last year
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  Speaker 2: with Brenton Strange, they were using him as at times
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  Speaker 2: as the why correct Now you get him out in
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  Speaker 2: space and removed from the formation, he also can do
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  Speaker 2: be do great things as a blocker out there because
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  Speaker 2: he's I said this after he was drafting and watching
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  Speaker 2: his college film. I said, he's one of the best
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  Speaker 2: space blocking tight ends that I had watched film on
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  Speaker 2: out of anybody coming out of college at that position.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, I watched him on that split zone play
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  Speaker 3: that they run take on defensive ends, and he was
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  Speaker 3: knocking the dog off of him. Man, And he is
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  Speaker 3: a factor in that action factor from coaching that position.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you want to know can this guy block
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  Speaker 3: or not? He can block and really hurt defensive ends.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm with you on this right now. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's going to help him both in the run game,
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  Speaker 3: but especially in the past game. Then when you throw
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  Speaker 3: in cozial I guess is how you pronounce him a
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  Speaker 3: guy that's a legit receiver?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, coach, So he was a wise receiver when he
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  Speaker 2: first went to college. Okay, and you can actually you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of you can kind of see a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of that in him.
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  Speaker 3: So I watched a little bit of him because I
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  Speaker 3: had that interest. First of all, you know, with stats,
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  Speaker 3: I mean the guy at one time was at Ball State,
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  Speaker 3: I think, but maybe even at Arizona State somewhere along
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  Speaker 3: the way. But six six sixty seven great target, two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty seven catches, that's not by accidents, seventy
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  Speaker 3: four of this past season. I mean, this guy is
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  Speaker 3: a legitimate, as you said, a former wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: But I watched him.
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  Speaker 3: He's not just a big old body out there. He's
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  Speaker 3: got he understands how to get open, how to shake
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  Speaker 3: defensive backs, and I think he understands how to again
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  Speaker 3: utilize the attack the defensive coverage. So I think you've
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  Speaker 3: got a legitimate receiving threat in addition to a guy
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  Speaker 3: that can help them in the run game. But I think,
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  Speaker 3: I think a scary guy.
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  Speaker 4: When you run something that's like thirteen are you run
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  Speaker 4: with those like more larger groups, more two to three
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  Speaker 4: tight ends, right, But you have a guy like this
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  Speaker 4: that you're talking about used to be a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Is that helpful when you're trying to confuse the defense
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  Speaker 4: because you don't know how they're going to be utilized?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, No, absolutely. I mean again, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that no one.
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  Speaker 3: What I've seen from the offensive staff so far, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to utilize not this personnel grouping, but these players
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  Speaker 3: in ways that really is going to stress the defense.
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  Speaker 3: You've got physical Mitch Masses, Mitchmatches in terms of height,
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  Speaker 3: but also guys that can catch and that are athletic.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you want to do. You want
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  Speaker 1: to make the.
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  Speaker 3: Opponents press box nervous. And I think the way they
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  Speaker 3: kind of picked and did this draft, they certainly are
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  Speaker 3: accomplishing that goal.
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  Speaker 2: And Cozy Olds one of those guys that I kind
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  Speaker 2: of to be split out a little bit, and his
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  Speaker 2: blocking ability is not anywhere near Borkashire. No, but he's willing.
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  Speaker 2: He's willing, he's willing, he's willing to stick his nose
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  Speaker 2: in there. But he's got to do a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better job of controlling his feet and staying balance so
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  Speaker 2: that he doesn't lose his track on guys. But he's impressive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the numbers from a receiving standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of that former wide receiver background in him,
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  Speaker 2: and I think he can develop even more physically, and
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  Speaker 2: so I like the two selections of tight ends, and
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  Speaker 2: I think Borkershire was given the nod of head of
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  Speaker 2: a guy like Colziol who even had better receiving numbers
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  Speaker 2: just because of the ability to block at a very
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  Speaker 2: high level. And when given the opportunity, he has shown
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  Speaker 2: to be a really good receiver, but he just didn't
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  Speaker 2: have any ops.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just think again that the application of
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  Speaker 3: thirteen personnels Jeff said three tight ends. A receiver running
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  Speaker 3: back in the game is a stress for defenses. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of defenses don't because they don't see it very often.
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  Speaker 3: They struggle to adjust to it, they struggle to defend
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  Speaker 3: it attacks. Whether or not they can defend it, do
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  Speaker 3: they have the people to do it in terms of
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  Speaker 3: can they stop the run game that imposes, Uh, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of pluses to it, and it's just a mix.
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  Speaker 3: I think for our team, they're trying to get the
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  Speaker 3: run game better. Doesn't mean it's going to be all
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  Speaker 3: hardball run, but they certainly you employ this to what
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  Speaker 3: they've already got going.
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  Speaker 1: I like, I like the way it's moving.
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised Kai because you know, with
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  Speaker 2: Cozi ol So and and nowadays when when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the draft picks of today, and this is a
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  Speaker 2: huge difference from a few years ago, is that you
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  Speaker 2: look at a guy and he was like three different
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  Speaker 2: places over the last over a five years.
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  Speaker 4: Every school I was like, well they were here last,
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  Speaker 4: and then I have to like go check everybody's list.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of schools down and like pregnant. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: he was at usc playing left guard and then for
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  Speaker 2: like three years there and then he goes on to
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  Speaker 2: Oregon and plays there. But like Colzial, for example, up
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  Speaker 2: was at ball State correct for three years and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting there going okay, he was at ball State for
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  Speaker 2: three years and he was all mac you know, basically
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  Speaker 2: every year and then the last year that he was
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  Speaker 2: at ball State, he had ninety four receptions and he leaves.
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  Speaker 4: That's what. Well, then they came calling. He had ninety
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  Speaker 4: four receptions and.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, and you'd love to get a truly
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  Speaker 2: honest answer out of some of these guys because they
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  Speaker 2: would probably tell you the reason is money. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you leave, yeah, now, ninety four catches. Then
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  Speaker 2: he decided to transfer to Wisconsin, which you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, because he transferred to Wisconsin and ended up.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: So he changed his mind a couple of times. So
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  Speaker 2: you sit there and go, well, I guess the money
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  Speaker 2: grew yeah, a different places.
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  Speaker 1: No, it does, it does.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: The thing when you look at this this class overall,
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  Speaker 3: you're seeing both guys that have got to have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of experience they've put in there. They've played most
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  Speaker 3: part quite a bit of ball. That's a good thing,
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  Speaker 3: I think. And then you're also seeing production. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know, especially that guy when you look at it,
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  Speaker 3: but when you look at Regis has had production. When
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  Speaker 3: you look at the what Husky's done, and we get
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  Speaker 3: down the list on some of these guys, I've seen
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  Speaker 3: productive players that have played in a couple of different programs.
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  Speaker 3: They gained experience, and so you're getting, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think some good products. As far as what's coming on
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: to this club.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Looking for me, I think looking ahead a little bit
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: it I'm gonna get too into it. Let's talk a
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: little bit more offense first, Treignon. Obviously, in addition, we
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: didn't think we were going to get out of the
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: weekend without that, right, that's.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: The guy like when you pull up, you know. So
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: going back to the high school days. You want him
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the first guy off off the bus. Yeah, because when
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: the opponents see him, they're going to go, oh yeah,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: oh my god, look at the size of that guy.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people saw it thought
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: he might go earlier as well. So I know people
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: are kind of I think Bucky brooks this up. Actually
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: the other day when we were talking to him, he's saying,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: if you switch the picks, people might have not been
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: up as upset. It was been taking the tight end
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: early that confused people, but pregnant had been you know,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: thought to maybe go earlier. And when I talked to
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: him in our one on one we get we catch
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: them on zoom, and he told me he was, uh,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: he'll die for Trevor and he'll he'll give him as
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: much time as he wants if he wants to sit
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: on the toilet back there, Jeff, he said, he'll have
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: time to do that.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Oh goodness, that's a that's a colorful way to describe that.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I never heard that one either.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: And that's the second time I've heard a draft pick
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman from this past week talk about willing to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: die for the quarterback. Okay, but pregnant's uh. When you
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: look at him, he is massive and he reminds me
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: of a guy just physically. And maybe Duff can remember this.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: When I was with the New York Jets, we had
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: a guy that we were able to acquire and plan
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: be free agency and his name was IRV Eatman. Oh yeah,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and IRV Eatman was one of the largest human beings
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: in the National Football League back in the in the
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: late eighties early nineties.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I think he was u c L A guy if
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, but I think he was. Yeah, but
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: he was a big guy.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, IRV. Actually, you know, in the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: NFL at that time was just instituting steroid testing and
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: he would test positive multiple times. And it wasn't because
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: he was using it was because at the time they
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: had never seen a human being that was producing this
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: much testosterone naturally, right. And so IRV used to tell
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: me that he would literally come to training camp and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I would say, you know, how'd your all season go?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: He's good, and I'd say, you know, did you You
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: know you work out because I don't lift a whole
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: lot in the off season, And he was explaining to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: me why and I said, well, why would you not
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: lift a lot in the off season. You know, I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in they're killing it, Yeah, trying to gain pounds and
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: strength and all that. And he said, I did more
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of the conditioning stuff he goes because that I just
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: get too big.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean, you get too big,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: too strong?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Well, we would actually work out together in training camp
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and and he would start lifting, and I swear to god,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you would literally see his body grow in training camp
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: because he started lifting weights in training camp, because his
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: body was just it would blow up. And uh, but
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: what a large human being in this preagwn. I'm not
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: saying he's you know, high level testops.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Only so many large individuals.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: He's a massive, massive human being. And I'm talking massive,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And he's super strong at the line of scrimmage when
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: he gets in space. He's not a super great athlete,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you know, he's he's got to be on the railroad track,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: so to speak, or is going to be on the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: railroad tracks, so to speak. But but at the line
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage, he is a dominant, powerful man.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Again, I think I'm with you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I think he's got all the traits that you're looking
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: for when you watch him on film physicality, Like you said,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: when he gets on guys, he gets movement.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You know, he's got fifty.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: One starts at the three schools he's been at. You
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: talk about durability also another key component right now. I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: mean he went to Wyoming USC. I think he's one
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: year at Oregon where he becomes all Americans so great pick,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I think, and a guy that I think is going
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: to press for time, you know, getting off the bus here,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, I really do. I think that's and I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: like the fact that he's got some versatility, and I
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: think somebody talked to him about maybe playing tackle at
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: some point or something he had he could care less.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't see him at that.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: No, I don't either, but at somebody I read that
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: or saw that somewhere that was posed to him and
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: he didn't borrow him at all.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I see. I see him as a right guard, right yep,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I do, which is kind of you know that he
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: played left in college. But if you if you kind
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: of look at what NFL teams typically do, the malror
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: is most teams are right handed. They like to run
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the ball to the right more so than the left.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Is that your left side is the more athletic side,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Your left guard is the puller, yep. The right guard
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: is the mall or downhill double teams, you know, et cetera,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: et cetera. So it'll be interesting to see where he plays.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I think if he can bring that tenacity, he might
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: fight for starting spots.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I think you will.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he'll definitely compete for just
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: because of his power.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I think what's cool about the team is if he
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: if he earns it in training camp, they'll play him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: They're not married to anybody's contract or anybody's title competition.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: It is good for everybody.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And you know what, what you just said, Kay, is
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: something that I think I saw last year that I
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: haven't seen a lot of places. If you're good enough,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you'll play here. Whether you're a college free agent or
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you're a drafted player or you're a top pro free agent,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you're going to play.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And players want to hear that and see that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: That's why I think this is a determined destination for
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of people to come play in Jacksonville.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit about some of those undrafted
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: free agents later on. We got to get to a break,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I let us run long already we're here on happy hour,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: but we'll be back soon.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: She was like, Hey, I've got this idea. Let's let
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: her cary, you know, put out some cuffs. Let's let
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: her crawl what she thinks. And I was like whatever,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: like I don't really not know whatever in the bad
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: in a way of like I don't care, but like
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I was like sure, I like, why not?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And then I'll go and play the game. And then
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: her family's in town.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: So they all did it and I'm watching in the background,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: and then every time they're like she went.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: To Jacksonville, She went to Jacksonville.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: She went to Jacksonville, and I was like, well, since
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: the end of the season, I've been saying, do balld
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: is where I want to be? And she went three
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: times and then it was just like, well, I was like, God,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: it's written in the books.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I was God never lies, he never does wrong. And
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm hearing it. It's just amazing.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Albert Regis's daughter made a little prediction. Turned out to
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: be true, and they're all the whole families from Houston.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: But they're gonna be Jags fans now because I got
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: drafted by the Jags are heading to Duval County. Welcome
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: back to Happy Arman for JP Shaddick this week, Jeff
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: and coach Duffer with me now and let's talk a
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: little bit about the defense. Obviously, Albert Reich is the
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: first defensive player they picked DT in the third round
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: there with the eighty first pick. And what are they
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: trying to do? Obviously we know they wanted to address
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: defensive tackle. That's something we've talked about at nauseum. But
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: what are they hoping to do with him? Does it
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: give versatility to the rest of the line.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I think he can play the one and the three
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: or the two, which is like an inside shade of
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the guard anywhere inside that what I call where it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: gets real noisy, can play both. He's he doesn't have
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: as much length as a lot of guys, but the
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: one thing that he has, he's got a high motor.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He does a really good job with his leverage and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: he finishes really well and got a real high motor
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that I think is infectious with the other people around
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: him on the field. So like his I like his style.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I think he's gotten the ability to pass rush more
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: so than what he showed when he was in college.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I think there's some more upside there left than the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: tank with him.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I take I took a look at him, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. This guy shows quickness and
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I liked what you said finished he's around the ball.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: He's not just a guy that takes up a gap.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, the guy had a lot of production as
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: far as that's concerned, So I think he's going to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: bring not only run stunning ability and movement gap or
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: disruption if you will.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm with you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I see this guy being able to have the quickness
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: to work in it either work interior, pass rush, show
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: pressure as far as that's concerned, but also pass rush games.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I like a lot what I saw out of this guy. Again,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: a guy that can penetrate the line of scrimmage.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's kind of funny watching his film because he wears seventeen.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that is odd, you know.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, when you're a big guy, the rule
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: should be is that you go for numbers that cover
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: more area.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a reason, But what I mean by.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: That, when you wear seventeen, it kind of makes you
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: look kind of wider than you actually are. You know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't do you any favors. It's like,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: what's the what's the way. You know, It's like wearing
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: horizontal with vertical pants.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Too many stripes, right, I mean.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: That's right, calling Kettle their horizontal stripes on. But okay,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: he's not going to be that number. Here we have
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the rookie numbers, and I only say that because there
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: was a bunch of other number changes as well. So
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Alberige is actually going to be ninety eight. So that's seventeen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Ninety eight some of the notable ones for I won't
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: tell you all the rookies, but I know Buster Brown's
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: going to be one now that Travis y Tian is gone.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Jarian Jones is switching to four, I believe, and then
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: la Quinn Allen's going to be five.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So if if Jarian switches to four, then that means
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that Husky's going to get twenty two. That is true,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: which is what the numbers he's always worn, which is
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: special to him, right, which is the safe the defensive
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: back from Maryland, Yes.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: The dB from Maryland. I believe. His sister passed away
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: on February twenty second, twenty twenty two, so he's warn't
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: changed his number to that and weren't ever since, So
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: pretty good timing for that. So he's able to come
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: in and have that number here.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Good for them, man, it's I think
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that's what I love about the numbers nowadays, back because
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: back in the day, you didn't have that flexibility.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: No were you just stuck with him when he went
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: to a franchise, is like that? How it worked? How
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: did it work? Then?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm when I first came to the league, you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean as a linebacker, I was only allowed to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: wear either a fifties or a nineties, that's right, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that was it. Yeah, And then offensive linemen were restricted
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: to fifties, sixties, and seventies and that was it. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: running backs were had a small window, so there was
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: always an assign So now they just created more freedom
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: across the whole range from numbers now, which is I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: remember a couple of years ago, Tom Brady was complaining
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: about how the numbers made it harder for him.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Because he used to be able to know what kind
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: of position players, right, Yeah.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: So it made him harder and made it harder for
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: him to decipher defenses, and I'm like, well, come on, man,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it's part of the game. It's a numbers thing. I mean,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: that can't be that big of a deal for a quarterback,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: but for him it was a huge deal, huge deal.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's just an extra Q in that would
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: is nice and helpful. Now, who knows. I will say
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I'm notoriously the worst at numbers. I am constantly like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: because you know, when we work in football, people refer
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: to people as numbers quite frequently when they're talking about somebody,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm always like, it always takes me an extra minute,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: especially when they change, like that's that's what's going to
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: get me, because I'm gonna be like, oh, daring twenty two,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: but now he's four, and I'm like.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It's going to be It's interesting some time. It's it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: kind of funny, like when a guy leaves like like
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: etn right, yeah, number one, and so these guys are
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: probably scrambled arguing over number one.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know how the dim system works on that. Well.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's they both called in and they were like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: what if like two people call.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Their seniority seniority.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Were in the league.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: In the league, I would guess.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Senior got to always come in to play.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: And I know you can't change in season either, right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: because Tank left in the season and he was fourced
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: that's why four wasn't available until now when it resets, right, Okay,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: But because Jacobe came over during the season, he got
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: to be three, which was Tyson who left during the season.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm learning from you that I did not know
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: about the stuff that's.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Good stuffs sad to talk it out. Well, I just
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: remember because three is a great number. So I was like, oh,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: someone will grab that, but they couldn't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: All right, So I got a question to you because
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: out of all the different guys that you talked to, yes,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: which is the guy that impressed you the most?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Mmmm?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Because I will.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Say that Josh Cameron a lot. I was impressed with
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Wesley Williams a lot. And I think I didn't get
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: a chance to talk to the two seventh round guys,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: so I can't weigh in on them. Unfortunately, CJ. Williams
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: was the politest, I'll give him that, and then Tannerkocia
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: was interesting too. I feel like he's he's kind of
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: a wild card for me. I'm curious to see what
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: they're going to be able to do with him when
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: they get him in the building because I think he
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: you know, we're talking about that wide receiver build, like
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: how they might utilize him. I think that that could
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: be pretty cool.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I think your first instinct was was I was hoping
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: you would go there because I thought Wesley Williams. Listening
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to that interview, I was, oh, yeah, incredibly impressed.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: He seems like someone that like an extra coach on
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the field, almost like he just picks it up, like
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: he understands.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: How many guys have you known that went to Duke
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that were not somewhat eloquent and well spoken.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Well, he's ready for law school, so clearly impressed.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's his goal after ball. I mean, I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: with you all the way.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: He was a defensive MVP of that ball club twenty
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: one years old, so as a young guy as far
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: as that's concerned, and we've you know, you hit his
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: eleven sacks, he blocked five kicks. I mean, he brings
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: a lot to the table. But you know, I saw
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: a video of him in the weight room squatting. Now,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: he liked the intensity and the strength that he's showing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I mean he's.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Thick, he's real thick, but he's got some he's got
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: some explosiveness and suddenness twitched to him. So highly impressive guy.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And the fact is we've already mentioned he's headed to
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: law school when he gets the opportunity, and there's a
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: lot of good things about that guy.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Well, he can play football for a few years to
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: pay for that. But what impresses me or impressed me
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: about him is that you mentioned that word twitch and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that there were certain moments watching him on films where
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: when he decided to go from here to there, it
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: was quick and it was powerful, and it was it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: was violent. And that's the part that I thought that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: was impressive. He's not overly fast or anything of that nature,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: but he's got a quickness to him that I really like.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And he's got a power to him that's really impressive
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that he never got pushed around.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And you know, I have a sense that this guy
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: is still on the come right now. I think he's
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: ascending right now, even though he's played you know, he's
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: had production as far as that's concerned, but I still
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: he'd looked a little roll in some areas for me.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So I see, you know, more maturation, more development as
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: far as this guy's concern.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take another break. When we return,
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about the consensus board. We have to.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: We'll be back here on Happy Hour after the break. Yes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: very cool. Get to hear your name called at the
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: NFL draft, get that call? Draft? Do you remember that?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Were you at the draft for your draft?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: No? I was not. I was actually at a place
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: that was on it actually called Hanover Street and Charlottesville,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Virginia Family and and we actually called it Hangover Street.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the Then it got duff and I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: don't know why. I don't know, but yeah.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I think we might release some of the calls a
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: little bit later this week. But those phone calls are
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: so cool. To cool be able to call somebody and
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: help them realize their dream. It's such a unique experience.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: But that was a manual, pregnant celebrating there.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: You got to remember, Ky, back when when I was drafted,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: we didn't have cell phones. It wasn't rotary. It was
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: the push button. But I mean we had one house phone.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: You know, did the bar have the phone?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: The bar and a.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Phone right, a bar. I mean we had a bar,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: but hangover. Yeah, but we had a phone, and so
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: we had to tell everybody in the house looks, just
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: make sure that and if we got a call, I
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, we got to keep the line open. Man,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: You hang the phone's stories from back of the day,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: because what if an NFL GM is calling and the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: line's busy, they can still pick you. Correct.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Well, the first thing that they want to do is
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to try to get in touch with you to make
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: sure you hadn't been hit by a train, that draft
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: pick on somebody that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That call went still breathing, That call went often absolutely
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: yeah in those days.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad they got through and everyone stayed off the.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Cell phones and everything true.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: But now everything is like you think it's spam. I
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: think I don't know if we'll play it. We might
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: play it next Uh. Jalen Husky's call, he was in
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the bathroom. He's like, wait, what at least they hold
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: on I'm out with my family.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: When he ran out of the bathroom.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: All right, let's talk a little bit about this consensus sport.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: The Jaguars went kind of off base to what a
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: lot of projections were with the selections that they made
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: and the times they made those selections right, So I
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: think nay Borkasher was the tight end they wanted, but
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: he wasn't necessarily projected it to go that high. But
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I will say it did kick off a huge run
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: of tight ends. So if they had just waited until
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: their next pick, as people say, it might not have
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: been there anymore. The tight end you want isn't there anymore.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: So I think that was kind of the way that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: they went about it. Then, obviously Albertigius and Manuel Pregnant,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people are giving the Jaguars
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: very bad draft grades, but there's a difference between We
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: talked a little bit about this the Consensus Board, which
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: is analysts outside people that study film and make a
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: list where they all submit kind of their analysis. Jeff,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: we're a little bit on the outside now, so I
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: would say, like you understand that aspect of it. But also,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: having both of you guys been involved in organizations before,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: it is different in house when you have an entire
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: scouting department that is catering to specific needs on the
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: franchise that they work for.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think the first reaction that a lot
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: of people of, oh, you know, who are these people?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Number one? Because you're used to having a well known
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: name picked in the first round. You don't have that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: So now all the focus is on rounds two and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: three for this team. And the grades weren't very good
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: across the board when you look at all the different
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: publications that issued grades for the Jaguars draft. But I'll
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: go back to the and I mentioned this with JP
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the other day or a couple of weeks ago. Let's
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: go back to the twenty thirteen Jaguars draft class, which
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: was Gus Bradley Dave Caldwell's first draft, and you had
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Luke Jokel, Jonathan Ciprian, Dwayne Grotz, Dernard Robinson who was
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: going to be the ow, the offensive weapon, and across
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: the board they had a's from differs. Yeah, and you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: look back on it now and you wouldn't even give
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: it a passing grade. I mean a lot of these
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: guys have never even made it into the you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: year four of their careers, and so I just don't
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: put a whole lot of stock in the immediacy of, oh,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: here's this guy, he's great at the Jaguars at a
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: D or a C. Because the only way that you
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: can truly rate or grade a draft class is to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: give it a little bit of time to mature and
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: to develop and see what it is. And so I've
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: gotten to the point now where I'm just like, I
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: ignore all those draft grades that people give them. I mean,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to me, I think if you have a strict discipline
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and that these are the type of players that we want,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and they use the terms in tangibly rich, Jaguars, DNA,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: all of those things are used a lot. And if
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: you stay true to that, I mean, you're you're gonna
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: hit on more than you're gonna miss and you're still
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: gonna miss on guys, because that's just the percentage's game
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of drafting. But I look forward to seeing what this
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: class ends up in one hundred percent.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And really, as you just mentioned, we really won't know
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: two or three years down the road to really how
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: this is. The coaches don't know for sure until you
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: get them in the building and see how they learn,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: see how they move, truly got them day after day,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: see how they react with their teammates, with the rest
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: of the coaches, rest of their players are they team first, guys,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you don't know for sure, and so I mean what
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I do trust though watching this, watching James Gladstone, the staff,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Liam Tony personnel staff operate last year. I trust these guys.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I like what I saw in their decision making. I
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: think they ultimately come to consensus within the building themselves.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think they believe in I know they believe in
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: their plan and how they do things, their preparation and
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: their process, and I don't think I think they ignore
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: properly the outside noise, and so I'm pretty impressed with
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the way they have gone about it. Sometimes I've been
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: on staffs where the personal staff has this perception of
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the players and the coaching staff has the other side,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: and when that's not on the same page, like I
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: believe it is in Jacksonville. Here, you got problems players.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: You know, the personnel staff thinks it should be this way.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: The coaches say it's this way.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You can't win.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: You're you know you've got we're trying to beat the opponent,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: not ourselves. I think they've got a collective plan and
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: process here that I saw positively work during the season,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: and the way they did player acquisition and even the
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: way they took players last year.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm encouraged by what they got and I trust them.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just gonna be. And you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking about a class that just got
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: drafted the building yet they haven't gotten in the building yet.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But I'll say this, I mean, I'm looking forward to
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: seeing what last year's draft class, what they look like
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: this year because now we're going to start to get
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of an accurate picture of where
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: they are.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: And it's two guys we haven't even seen at all
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: correct because of.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Being on into the reserve all year long. So I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: excited to watch that draft class and and I hope
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that this draft class is at a high level. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: just know that from the decision making that they've made,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: like with free agent acquisition so far, they have done
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: a really good job with that. If you look at
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the productivity of the rookie so far, it hasn't been
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: great yet, but again it's not until year three. That's
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: not like your goal is to get a guy a
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: draft class in and you're one to go. You know what,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: we want to have them all be productive and contributing,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: because you go back to the twenty thirteen draft class again,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and then you would say, after the season was over
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: their first year, you know what, that was a pretty
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: good draft. They all contributed. Well, the reason that they
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: were contributed because the roster was terrible. Yeah, and they
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: weren't very good either, That's right, and that's why the
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: team didn't win a whole lot of games. So exactly,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing where this draft class is at,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: and I think people need to just I've gotten and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I've gotten to this point where you just ignore all
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: of the quick click bait bait opportunities. The Jaguars got
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: a D or the Jaguars got a C or a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: daft whatever, just ignore that. Let's let's see where they
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: end up.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: We're just not going to know for a while until
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: the season starts. Trying to get at the very.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Least getting pad. You know, sometimes you don't know for.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Sure, especially some of the linemen.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: When we had we had a draft ack real quick
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: share story.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Stories. And so when I was with the Jets, we
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: got a highly talented outside linebacker and it was from
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: usc you know, Biselli's alma mater, West Coast, and you know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: came in with a lot of hype. You know, it
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: was you know, fell to the second round. You know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: what a great steel what you know, we got like
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of real positive grades for it because we
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: got him in the second round.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Good value, right, and I'll.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Never forget this and that, you know. So we were
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: all like, okay, there's a little bit of hype involved
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: with this guy coming in and and like Duff is saying,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know, and no pads. He looked pretty good, you know, athletic,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: could move a little bit. And then the first day
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: of pads come and I swear he's got he's got
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: uh pads on his upper arm, He's got form pads
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: and in pads. Duff, it was like you want to
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: wear a bubble rats of contact because he was scared
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: of it. Comes out with all these pads on and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you're looking at him going, now, you really want to
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: hit that dude right there? Don't want to get hit?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: No, you know, I knew where it was going.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what it was like, you want to
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: get hit And he wasn't a very good pick. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it was a hype. Oh look at that great pick.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: You know, they felt to they fell right in the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: lap of the Jaguar or the Jets, like, yeah, fell
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: right in and we took him and we shouldn't have.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: And and with the best processes that are going and
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I think they're doing great here in Jacksonville, you always
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: need a little Scotia luck.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's human beings you're dealing with.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: It's not this this phone or this microphone that maybe
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: you have a you know, predictability about a lot of
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: things happen with folks, and so you know, you you
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: you got to have a little bit of luck involved
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: with it in health help.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's all what I'm talking Forars draft pick who I
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: thought was going to be an outstanding player for for
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: many years, Tavian Banks, who was a Jaguars draft pick,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and I believe from Iowa he was and he kind
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: of had that rot Dennis Rodman harre, you know, he
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: had a bleach flown outstanding three down back, was going
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: to be a marvelous third down back. And I think
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: it was in a preseason regular season gave got his
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: knee shredded on a tackle that was really out of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: bounds and wasn't a very clean hit. But I mean
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: he was one of those guys that could have been
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: great but just no luck.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you got to have a scotch of that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: We gotta have it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: But I do I do think that they're playing their process.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Their preparation here is from my observation, top notch, and
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna We're gonna see that this class
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: in the class, even last year's class, as they get
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: on the field, are going to be productive.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I think there's any question about the culture fits when
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: you're talk about the Duval DNA. These guys are going
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: to be tough and they're gonna be physical football players.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna do one more break and then
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: we'll come back and wrap things up for here. On
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: half hour. Welcome back into Happy Hour. We're gonna go
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: over our Microsoft co pilot question of the day. We
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: have to consult ai JP told me I had to.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: I like the computer's point of view sometimes, but not
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: all the time. So I asked, when was the last
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: time that Jacksonville Jaguars drafted two tight ends in the
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: same draft. The answer the most recent and only time
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars selected two tight ends in the same
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: NFL draft was in twenty twenty six.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it ever happened.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just this one suggest it was the first time
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: ever thirty plus years, which is interesting. At some point,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I think they would have taken.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: A well, you know what.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Part of the advantage though, it was the ten picks.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't don't have a lot of it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: What was it two years ago, at like fourteen, I
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: didn't know that. Yeah, it was it twenty twenty two. Oh,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: there was a lot. It was a long a couple
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: of days.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: But to me that I've never been around ten. Yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: and so you can that can happen sometimes that you
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: could have that. I didn't know you had fourteen before.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And then another is it sixteen or eighteen? Undrafted free agents?
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I think they added to the class.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere in that range.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Is there any X factors for you guys, any X
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: factor players in there, because I mean, when we talk
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: about the undrafted free agents, you saw Danny Strigo, BJ Green.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Those are undrafted guys that came in and played a
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: big role on the field. So it's not impossible to
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: see that. I think one of the running backs I
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: think was an undrafted free agent you're all the money
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: you're looking at.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean if you're if you're a running back.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, one of the first conversations that you have
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: if you're an undrafted guy between the guy and the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: agent is where's the best opportunity for me to make
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: a roster. That's that's got to be a part of
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: the conversation or the number one point of conversation. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars have an opportunity running back, I mean with
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the ETN movie on in free agency, and yes they
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: acquired a guy in free agency, but for a younger
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: player to have an opportunity stick, this is an attractive situation.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason why you probably got
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Danny Strigo and bj Green last year as undrafted free
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: agents because of the opportunity that existed here at the
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: edge position. And so I'm sure some of those free agents,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the ones that were priority were probably or probably came
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: or were at positions of you'd need so. And I
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: give James Gladstone credit. I mean, to go back when
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: he originally started handling some of the responsibility for the Rams,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: that undrafted category was one of the first areas he
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: really kind of was dialed in on and last year,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: if you looked at what the Jaguars are able to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: do with Strigo and bj that that's a that's a
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I think a point of emphasis for this football team.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: And I expect them to hit on undrafted guys, you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: every year, just because I think they're good at it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of teams don't put a lot
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: of you know, they just get people into field roster
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: for as we used to call camp bodies here. They're
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: trying to get players in that can make the squad,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: that can contribute to the team getting better. And they
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: did that with those two guys last year. Trigo in
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Green and when I said, you're Alma Manter, this running
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: back that they're bringing in from Virginia is a heck
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: of a player. And when you look at his production
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: and as you said properly to Jeff, a good move
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: by this guy, because that is the number one thing
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: that if you're trying to you got your own choice.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: As a college free agent, it's not always what the
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: signing bonus is.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: It's that I have.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: An NFL helmet on my head in September. That's where
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: you want to be. I have a chance to make
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: a team, and here the fact that they've got players
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: that have made it as free agents in the past
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: and have played, not just been on the rosters, practice
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: squad of play. That's a huge enticement to players to
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: want to come.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: To Jacksonville looking forward to watching my Virginia guys.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: He's he's a good player. Now, I'm telling you that's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a good lick. Good pickup, could be a good one.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: It's got some late round picks. I know you guys
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: haven't looked at every everybody on this team. But it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: also the second draft for this new regime. Right, all
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: of their picks I think made it last year if
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. But what's the possibility of all of
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: these guys making the rosters not very good?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I mean again, it's a percentages game. But the guy
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that I'm probably going to watch film on next just
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because of the speed factors, Parker Hughes. You know, there's
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: not very beans that can run. What's what's it is
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: forty times is like somewhere supposedly in the.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: They have three four four ring Well they had him
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: as Pro day at four three nine, But it's crazy
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: for a bi Yeah, let's.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Just say he's four or five or four four. I mean,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that's still flying. This guy was a team captain.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Over one hundred tackle guy and two interceptions this past year.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I think not only for the linebacker position, but for
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Heath Farwell.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: This this is a good pick up. He's about a.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Six one twenty five guy in terms of his weight.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Good pick up in his seventh round. He would have
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: been highly sought after as a free agent. And now
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: when you when you have the picks, multiple picks like that,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: you eliminate that and you get it.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: They don't get the option.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, and if he had went undrafted, I'm
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: sure that he would have been a priority for you
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: for the Jaguars, just because of the need for the transition.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which but for a lot of teams too, for sure.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: With the numbers, that's why you draft a guy like.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: That, Amen, that's what know.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: You eliminate all that and it's a you know, then
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: you're into all kinds of phone calls and deals and
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: all this. This is clean, very well done.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Another interesting prospect X this year was actually Zach Durphy
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Edge out of Washington, but which ESPN writes an article
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: every year they write a blind article about what they
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: think is the most underrated draft pick in the country,
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: because just someone that people know about that they're kind
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: of keeping under their hats. They write a blind item
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and then they reveal it after the fact. And this
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: year it was Zach Durphy. He's an edge player. Didn't
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: start There was a basketball player originally kind of went
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: to you know, a roundabout way. Some interesting articles if
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you want to check out kind of his story, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: not a ton of sample size with him. But they're
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: really excited about it. Which if you're going to put
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: camp in charge of developing someone, I'm going to imagine
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: that you're going to get the best out of them.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: And isn't either one that originally went to college and
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: didn't play correct.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: And just showed up the practice, threw up on the
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: first day. He's not conditioned, kept coming back, worked his
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: way up, finally got somewhere I think it was South
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Dakosta State or North.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Coasta State, North Coast State.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Then ended up at Washington.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: After that, I went to Shoe Falls, had an interim
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: time at shoe Falls. Actually was thinking about playing Division
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: III basketball coming out. This guy and when you looked
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: at his testing too, he jumped well, he ran pretty well.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is going to have some interesting
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: things to watch.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Did you ever jump well? Done?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I did not run well.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I thought I did downhill, but for the most part, no, no,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I tried.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, though, when you look at some of these numbers,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: because you know, the combine testing has been around forever,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, back in the day, if you were
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: a linebacker and you ran in the four high four
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: six is, you were fast, really fast, really fast.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Were faster now though, somehow.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: They way fast.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: They figured it out way fast. The shoes are well.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: You know something that guys learned how to work on
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: their start. They learn how to run. That's part of
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: it right now.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: They become track athletes a little bit in preparation for
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: these things. But uh, if you're four to six four
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: seven is a linebacker, you can run and I'll take
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: them to myself.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: I'll promise you guys. Thanks for having me, JP. You'll
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: be back next week.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Job this past week.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: I just love Draft week. It's nice to have some
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: new faces in here. Rookie Minni camp is going to
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: start next week, so we'll have that discuss next week
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: and JP will be back with you guys, but so's
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: happy hour. Thanks for joining us, we'll see you next week.
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