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Geeking Out on Brave Words with Laura Di Franco · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

0:37
SPEAKER_00: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad Podcast OMG.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: You all, I am so excited.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I am circling back to the beginning of my experience in podcasting, and I have flipped the microphones around.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: And today I get to talk with one of my dear friends, an amazing mentor, Laura DeFranco.
1:07
SPEAKER_00: Welcome.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: Um, I have a feeling we're gonna have a lot of fun today.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me on your show.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm excited to be able to say that.
1:19
SPEAKER_01: Your show.
1:20
SPEAKER_01: I know this is so awesome.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: I know.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, I was sort of falling asleep last night and I was tracking how you and I were connected.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: And we talk about the mysteries of the universe and the amazing things that happen, but every step is a meaningful step.
1:40
SPEAKER_00: So in the fall of 2019, I was on my self-development journey like most of us, and I had fallen into this group of women and did this whole writing challenge in November of 2019, connected with Laura Mazzada, who's one of my favorite people in the world.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: And I won the contest in the group for the month of November for writing.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: And she messaged me and she said, Listen, I have this group that I joined.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: You would be perfect.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: It's called The Right Habit, W-R-I-T-E.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, you have to join it.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: So I did.
2:21
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay.
2:22
SPEAKER_00: And so here comes this Laura DeFranco doing these live videos, talking to everybody like we're just familiar friends.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: And one of the first things I heard you say was, Your fear of not good enough is boring.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, wait, what?
2:41
SPEAKER_00: I felt so triggered and so seen.
2:44
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, she just told me my fear of not good enough is boring?
2:50
SPEAKER_00: What?
2:53
SPEAKER_00: So that was like my first introduction to you, Laura.
2:57
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, all right, what else has this woman got to say?
3:01
SPEAKER_00: What else is she gonna dispel for me?
3:03
SPEAKER_00: And it was it was so funny, and it's it's so true that your fear of not good enough is boring.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Right.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm so happy that you traced our roots back, first of all.
3:17
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
3:18
SPEAKER_01: Because I, if you had asked me, I would have been like, I have no idea like how that happened.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, the right habit, yes.
3:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so I'll have to do a little quick thank you to Elizabeth Gilbert because her blog slash Facebook post the year that I started talking like that just said your fear is boring.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: And I morphed it to your fear of not good enough because I talk about purpose-driven kinds of fears and that little inner critic voice saying, You're not good enough, you're it's not perfect enough, you know.
3:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, and when when she wrote her thing and I read that, I had a similar reaction.
4:02
SPEAKER_01: I tattooed it on my forearm too.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, like there's initials there that stand for your fear is boring.
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SPEAKER_01: I wanted a constant reminder because how that tied into my mission was that, you know, the fear of not good enough is boring.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: It's not about me anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: It's about the person whose life I could change if I was brave enough to share my message.
4:27
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you've heard me say those things too, so I know you get it.
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SPEAKER_01: But that was big ass burning purpose in me when I woke up to that.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, and it definitely lit a fire under my butt.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: It started this whole process of like, I never thought about it that way.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: And also, huge Liz Gilbert fan.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, big magic, creative living beyond fear should be like, I feel like that should be in high school.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Like they should that that should become part of the high school because we all get stuck in this rut at some point in our lives where we're doing the things we feel like we're supposed to be doing because somebody set us on this path and told us this is the way, this is what you're supposed to do.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: I did so many of the supposed to do's, and I know you have too.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: You're you're supposed to do good in school, you're supposed to be a good girl, you're supposed to go to college and have a career and find a guy and get married and have kids and do, you know, all these things.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, and and I thought the like end of that sentence was you're supposed to do all these things and then you're gonna be happy.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: So it's okay to not be happy now.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: It's okay because you're gonna do all these things and then you get to be happy.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, I did all the things, and I was like, uh, hello, where is my big pile of happiness?
5:52
SPEAKER_00: Not here, not here in the middle of a codependent relationship and you know, feeling like an imposter in my life and still stuck in the rud of perfectionism.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, I know you had that experience too in your life.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: I did.
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SPEAKER_01: This basically the same exact one.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: You know, the supposed happiness to-do list is long.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: And waking up to the fact that I wasn't uh real happy like I should be, the shoulds and the supposed to's, right?
6:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
6:25
SPEAKER_01: Um actually was one of the best moments of my life.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: It created a lot of hard decisions that I needed to make, and that part wasn't, you know, so fun.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: But the transformation um I'm I'm still grateful for that I woke up to the fact that I did follow everything, what uh that everyone else said I should do.
6:47
SPEAKER_01: I had great moments in checking off those things.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: I can't say that everything was bad, there was a lot of good things, but you know how you say that book should be in college, like I think what or uh high school, I think what needs to be in high school also is teaching intuition 101, like teaching how to connect with the place that you can figure out what brings you joy, not what everyone else tells you should bring you joy.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the 101 class that should be in high school.
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SPEAKER_00: Amen.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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SPEAKER_00: I I feel like it was the opposite for me.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: I think I spent so much time stuffing down what really lit me up and what really got me excited about life.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: And and I agree with you, there were a lot of really good things.
7:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm I'm not regretful of you know going to college and becoming an occupational therapist and the work that I've done with children.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I love that and my my coworkers and everything.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: But I think for me, it was so much more like the daily life and how I felt and how I treated myself versus like the accomplishments.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: The accomplishments were great.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, you you we have these amazing curriculum vitaes.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: We can be like, hey, look at this, look at all these things I've accomplished.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: But it was how I felt day to day and how I treated myself day to day that was more concerning for me.
8:15
SPEAKER_01: That's um interesting because yeah, I mean, the achievements and accomplishments were my drug of choice, actually, throughout that whole time.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, gave me the high that I needed to move to the next one.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: And that gets pretty exhausting after a while.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: But you're making me realize that the place that I wasn't awake to was my own voice.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh finding it, using it, expressing this me that was inside.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: So I was doing the achievement thing, but not really fully expressed through many of those years, probably a couple of decades, unfortunately, you know.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: But I know you believe this too.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: Every single thing happened for me on my journey.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: I I have we have a really similar story, right?
9:10
SPEAKER_01: So I became a physical therapist and um did all kinds of amazing things on that checklist we were talking about.
9:20
SPEAKER_01: And I would not go back and change anything that I did or accomplished.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: It helped me get to where I am today.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: I think what I would have loved to have woken up to faster was um getting over my fear of being my full-on self in the world and speaking her out loud and being her with the people around me in all of the situations, work and relationship and everything.
9:49
SPEAKER_01: You know, um, I feel, you know, I'm sad for that young woman sometimes that it took her so long, and I feel so good to be here today.
10:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, not caring so much anymore what other people think, but also being here to serve other people that need to hear that message.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of an interesting two things at once.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel that too.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think when I did let myself out and free and wild and being in my full self, it was usually with that vulnerability hangover the next day, like, oh my God, what are people gonna think of me?
10:29
SPEAKER_00: I've totally let myself out and let myself be un you know, abashedly myself.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: And now I feel like I need to recoil and kind of pull back in because it's like that that how many ways are you too much for other people?
10:47
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, right?
10:49
SPEAKER_01: Uh and I feel it in my body, right?
10:51
SPEAKER_01: So the foundation for me of this intuition became body awareness.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: And even as you're talking about that scenario and that feeling, for me, it's like in the center of my chest, and it gets tight and shrivelly, and my posture changes, and I want to go, you know, shrivel away.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I've learned I think warriors choose a healing path.
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SPEAKER_01: And it takes a warrior because you have to be able to tolerate those feelings and not make them mean anything else than what they are in your body.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: And that is just a chance to be awake and alive, you know, really, period.
11:29
SPEAKER_01: Awake and alive, because we all get to feel those things, but that connection then becomes this awesome compass.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna pull this all the way to like that purpose-driven fear idea that we started talking about.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: That has a feeling in here too, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: So I could feel that horrible feeling of that vulnerability hang over, but I can also shut it down faster now and just be like, you know, feel your feelings.
12:00
SPEAKER_01: And is this doing you any good?
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SPEAKER_01: Like to stay stuck in this, you know, for one more second.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: No, because I could go be sharing or creating for somebody who might need some help or support or assistance or whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: I could be shifting into gratitude right now.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: And you know what the truth is?
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SPEAKER_01: Nobody is thinking anything about you.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: They're all doing their own life, they all they all have their other things going on with their own selves.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: Like we all think everyone else is thinking about us all the time.
12:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, no.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's funny how we do that to ourselves, right?
12:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so true.
12:37
SPEAKER_00: It's so true.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I I have no time to think about anybody else.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like very, very much for separating on myself at this point.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's that's so very true.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I think in the past few years, what's been really exciting for me is that that gut instinct and that intuition and letting that be like you set a compass, it feels so much easier.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: And all of the work that I did and the pushing and all of the mental games that I played with myself over the years.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, it's so much nicer and more comfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: And it frees me up for so many more things, for so many more people to be available.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: And like you said, it's it's the things that we're doing with that purpose-driven fear that are inspiring others that gets me excited.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's not actually my own journey.
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SPEAKER_00: It's this awakening and allowing for other people to say, well, if Laura DeFranco can dance out there and be her full unabashed self, why can't I do that?
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Why can't she do that?
13:47
SPEAKER_00: Why can't he do that?
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SPEAKER_00: And for people to see that, and this is what gets me like really like nerding out big time is what would that look like?
15:20
SPEAKER_00: This this is what I like to imagine and get into.
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SPEAKER_00: What would it look like for all of us to feel free to be the 100% version of ourselves in the world?
15:32
SPEAKER_00: What would that look like?
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SPEAKER_00: What would that feel like?
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SPEAKER_00: What could we do and accomplish together?
15:37
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like every single person who comes across my path, if I've given them just a little inspiration, I feel like I've I'm doing I'm doing the thing that I'm meant to do on this planet.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: We we can inspire them, and you know what else we need to make sure of is that we continue to be a safe circle and community for those people to come back to and practice what you're talking about.
16:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the reality is in some of your circles, you don't feel safe, and some of the places out in the world, it's it's even dangerous to do what we're talking about.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: So I think I always come back to how grateful I am for the community I get to play in every day.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: And I remind myself come back there, choose your inner circle and choose them repeatedly based on um that community's ability to make it safe for you to be your full-on amazing, hippie, sexy, badass warrior love self, right?
16:48
SPEAKER_01: Like the I think we wish that was gonna happen everywhere, and when it doesn't, or when we're deeply hurt when it doesn't, we have to remember all right, um I get the choice.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: And this person may not be aligned with me right this moment.
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SPEAKER_01: They might be teaching me a lesson, okay.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, uh us healers are constantly in this um, you know, process of awareness.
17:19
SPEAKER_01: But I think sometimes we have such a wide birth there that we need to remember we also need to protect ourselves with people who are walking the walk with us and kind of hold that safe space for us to be ourselves.
17:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Kelly, you you have been playing bigger in the world as have have I, and it's not like if the trolls will come out, it's when.
17:49
SPEAKER_01: And you know, grabbing hands with other people who get that is so important.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: So I appreciate you being one of those people for me.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think we have a responsibility, you know, and taking the small steps that we take to be inclusive in our language, in our circles, in our openness of our hearts to to seek to more deeply understand.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: Oop, I'm sorry.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: What happened?
18:21
SPEAKER_01: I didn't see anything.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: It's only on my end.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, good.
18:25
SPEAKER_00: It's like I have the home like central monitor of all the things coming in and going.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad that didn't disrupt us.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: But you know, I feel I feel this importance of recognizing what privilege is and being privileged, being very fortunate.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: And not everyone has that.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: And I'm so glad that you brought that piece of it up because I think the small steps that you and I and other people are taking to be more inclusive in our language, in our circles, and pulling people in in recognizing seeking more deeply to understand other people's perspective is part of the process of change, you know.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think the more that we can do that and recognize that, and that that definitely takes some bravery too, because um to be the voice in the room that's saying, wait a minute, guys, let's think about this for a minute.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: Let's think about the way we're talking about other people and how are we being less inclusive is not necessarily the most comfortable conversation.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: But if we can't do that, then who's gonna do it?
19:40
SPEAKER_01: Right.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: Exactly right.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: That's why I use the word warrior a lot.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, trailblazing kindness is not for the faint of heart, trailblazing courage, inclusivity, all of the things, vulnerability.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: You're talking before we started about Renee Brown and that work, and just, you know, and the reason it's hard is because it's massively uncomfortable.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Because you feel feelings inside of you that feel horrible.
20:19
SPEAKER_01: And you have to be able to practice the awareness that um allows you to tolerate that feeling without reaction immediately, allows you to tolerate the feelings and respond from an aligned place, aligned with love mainly.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: Um, and this is a practice, and again, just gonna repeat myself that uh how grateful I am to be around people who are practicing talking about it out loud so that it can because when it's in here, it's hidden.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: We have to have that out loud to make it evolve.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, it has to be out and in great conversation and better communication.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and I love the community who is all doing that together.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: It's powerful.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: It's really powerful work.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And you realize when you get into other circles where that work hasn't been happening, how dis disjointed it feels, you know.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: And uh it makes me excited because I see, you know, your your communities are growing at a rapid rate.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, I know you're you're getting ready to celebrate one of your groups hitting a thousand members.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I think that is what separates you from a lot of people, Laura, this this work that you're doing at an exponential rate with this level of energy that I know a lot of people are envious of.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: So, what are a couple of your secrets?
21:51
SPEAKER_00: What are the things that you're doing every day that make it easier for you to show up as your most brave version of yourself?
22:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, what a great question.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: I have a I do have an alien amount of energy, I admit.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: And I believe that that came from a time, I would say maybe six or seven years ago.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: When just only six or seven, okay.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: I didn't always have this alien amount of energy that a lot of people see right now and be like, what is she on, you know?
22:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm on prioritizing joy is what I'm on.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm on speaking my voice in moments where it mattered in I could have turned toward something else.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: And anger, resentment, guilt, shame, frustration, all you know.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: So listen, I spent 30 years in healing, and I understand that feeling everything fully is the first priority.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm not shoving those things away, I'm allowing myself to feel, and then with awareness, I get the choice.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: So a while ago, I made that choice.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: Joy, like allowing every cell in my body to vibrate with joy and love and gratitude.
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SPEAKER_01: I was gonna aim toward that more often.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: And I wake up every morning in my little miracle morning.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: I know you have a miracle morning too.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: So that's something else.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: I made that decision, and then I created practices and strategies and rituals for myself that would feed that.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: And my miracle morning is a combo of meditation and journaling, affirmation journaling, sitting and stillness, and writing, because writing is my place of meditation.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, so that's a those are a couple of the things that come to mind.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think what I've heard from a Of people that that have your level of energy and impact, it is this returning to stillness, returning to self.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, we talked about that compass before.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: If you're always on the move, you can't reorient to north, right?
24:14
SPEAKER_00: You can't reorient to where you're going.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and I know a lot of people I've worked with, and a lot of people who like us are busy mom, entrepreneur doing 15,000 things and able to do it, but if we don't take that time to return to self, it's very hard to move forward.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: And I agree with you.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: I think for me too, the return to joy and the prioritization of joy is a huge factor.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: And I think people can get confused with that choice of joy that it means you're always happy.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: And I think what's really important is you said, feel your feelings.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: And I used to think my feelings, and I never realized I was thinking my feelings until I I stopped thinking my feelings and feeling them and allowing them and giving them a little bit of space, and then being like, okay, I felt it, I'm in it, and now what do I want?
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Where do I go?
25:21
SPEAKER_00: What do I choose?
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, that choice.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: I think that that is really brilliant advice right there.
25:29
SPEAKER_01: You're making me smile because you know, thinking your feelings, yes, and then adding baggage to this physical sensation, right, is overthinking your your sensations, um, the things that we're all feeling.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, spirit of the heart.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: This is this is a really good example of this week.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: I had a hard one, I had a hard day, and I gave myself a good, I would say 24 hours, maybe a little longer.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: I didn't try to distract myself.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: I just sat my ass in a chair and stared out the window for a while and got into a meditative state where I was clearing my mind a little bit and then literally just allowing myself to breathe and open the space up around my heart center, my chest.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: It's just one of those places that I feel my, you know, the thinking stuff would be added on to that in terms of like, what does that mean?
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Does it mean I'm sad?
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Does it mean this?
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Does it mean that this person made me sad?
26:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: So I woke up um the next morning and sat with my pen and my notebook.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: And um, I call them, I call it poem journaling.
26:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, sometimes poems come out.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: And I wonder if you'd like to hear this one.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, we would.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Please.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, you may have read this because I posted it yesterday, but this is called the The Alone Place, and I'm gonna be looking down to read it.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: So I touched the alone place without realizing where I was.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: Let's go and play in the deep end.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: I heard the little me laugh.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: So when I dove, I felt excited until there was no bottom.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: The darkness, then the darkness came and there was no sight.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: The panic came, my heart felt smaller, squeezed dry.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: And despite my desperate attempts, there was nothing to push off from.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: My legs went weak.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: I felt my weight pulling me deeper and tried not to choke on the old wound regurgitating itself.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: What is this?
27:50
SPEAKER_01: A feeble spark of awareness.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: The monster yanked me from below, and I started to disappear, to want to disappear.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: I suddenly felt unsure of my skills, unsure about everything I thought I knew.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: I floated, drowning.
28:09
SPEAKER_01: The disorientation felt good.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: Escape.
28:14
SPEAKER_01: Soft silence, not shouting temporary solutions, allowing me to really hear.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: You know what to do.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: I stopped flailing, I spread my limbs wide, tilted my head back and closed my eyes, felt the pull of the rise almost immediately, a rope from the sky to the center of my chest, bringing me closer and closer to the surface, relief in a single breath.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: I pulled myself out up onto the edge, sat and gazed for a moment at where I'd been, only able to see one clear thing.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: A reflection of myself.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: I'm here.
29:01
SPEAKER_01: You'll be okay.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: You learned everything you need to know to play in the deep end, she said.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: Now go rest.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: We're getting you ready for bigger things.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: So that's uh part of what happens when I allow myself to be just sit, feel the feelings, and then poems are the way that uh something bigger than me moves through me, which is fun.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: And I I love the point in the poem where you talk about spreading your limbs wide and putting your head back.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: And I the word that comes to mind is surrender, surrender, trust, let go, and everything comes back to where you wanted it to be.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: I just I I think it's such a beautiful piece that you've written, and I think anyone who has ridden that emotional wave of, you know, we all feel that.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Even Laura DeFranco feels that, you know, prioritizing her joy.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: She feels that moment of like, what if I never get out of this dark space?
30:20
SPEAKER_00: And you you disorient, you lose yourself, and you feel like I might never come out of this, and it's scary.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: And the way to come out of it is to let it be and let go.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: And I think um that's one you should keep bringing up for people because I really do think it it shows how a brave soul does it, how a warrior soul does it.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: They don't fight, they stop the fight and trust and believe that it's gonna be okay, and that higher power steps in, and there you are.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: You're looking back at yourself like that was me.
31:00
SPEAKER_00: There I was.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: I did it, I did it again, and I'll do it again.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: Um giving yourself permission to feel is the way that you heal through anything, and I think everybody has ups and downs, everybody has bad days, worse days, impossible days, like completely not sure if I'm gonna make it through this day, days.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: And it's our ability to surrender, like you said, um, feel and surrender.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: And I I don't let myself get stuck there for too long, though.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: So I wanna allow it to be fully, but I also want to recognize when it's ruminating and when it's habitual, when it's triggery and old and boring.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: And I then I choose, then I'm like, okay, listen, you know, honor the process here.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: And what what are you gonna do about this?
32:10
SPEAKER_01: You know, do you need to do you need another day to feel this stuff?
32:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, fine.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: Not really, okay, fine.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: Then, you know, let's figure that out.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: Um, but one important thing, of course, is that everyone has a process.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's really interesting and important to say to everyone, find yours.
32:32
SPEAKER_01: Not everybody sits at the desk and writes poems to process their emotions.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Some people do art, some people take a walk, some people have to do it this way to move to this place.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's really, really great to listen to everyone's ways.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: We need all the voices, we need to hear all of the ways so that we can try new things and see what works for us, and then create our own practice of healing.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: And I think going back to the idea of thinking your feelings, I think for me, when I can get into my body and out of my head and and into my heart and my gut and my sacral area where I'm like pulling in who I am and what I'm here for, then then it's right, you're right.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: The fear becomes boring.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: That's like the least interesting part about the process.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: It's like, but who are you here to to inspire?
33:37
SPEAKER_00: And what are you here to do?
33:38
SPEAKER_00: And what kind of a mark and a legacy can you leave on the world?
33:42
SPEAKER_00: And maybe we don't spend every day thinking about that, but I've noticed for myself, I spend more time in that contemplation than all right, Kel, where did you get it totally wrong today?
33:56
SPEAKER_01: I say to myself, you have remember you have feet, girl, because I get so up here.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: You got feet like ground and center yourself, go back down.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: You said sacrum, right?
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Pelvic bowl, feet, like, oh yeah, my feet, okay, back in my body, because all the good stuff happens embodied.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: And as soon as I can catch myself here again, all here, I'm talking like from here up here.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, like I forget that I have a lower part, yeah.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, because I'm so wrapped up in my thinking and problem solving, analyzing, overthinking, right?
34:36
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh my gosh, breathe, and that, and you, I know you get this.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: You realize you've been holding your breath, yes, and oh, right.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: So being back in the body is real actually, that's the whole foundation for everything I've done right there, is body awareness.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: And I've I've done a lot of writing with you, you know, in book projects and learning to blog and things like that.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: And I think I spent so many years feeling that writer's block, right?
35:14
SPEAKER_00: And and then Laura comes along and she's like, I know what you're gonna say.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay, people, listen, listen.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: Writer's block, that's a myth.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: That's not a thing.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: You're you're just way up here overthinking it.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: You need to get back in your body, you need to sit, you need to take those big pelvic bull breaths and get into your body.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I love the processes that you have to get to the the purpose of your writing, you know, for those writers out there.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: You're you're not writing just to hear yourself talk on a page, right?
35:49
SPEAKER_00: You're writing because you want to make a difference, because you you care about people and you feel your story is going to help someone.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: And so, so if you could tell everybody at home, how many projects is this for you at count?
36:07
SPEAKER_00: How many of those books have been put out into the world?
36:11
SPEAKER_01: A lot.
36:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, I am losing count.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: We're at 30 plus.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: So in the past two years.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh, and that's after my own, right?
36:23
SPEAKER_01: So I've written nine of my own books, um, and then began publishing um collaborations and other kinds of books, and those are the ones that are at 30 plus at this point in the last two years.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: And I'm, you know, I say that out loud, and I uh it's hard not to go into that.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, people must think you're insane, or people must think.
36:47
SPEAKER_01: People must think, right?
36:48
SPEAKER_01: We do that a lot.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, I hope you think that that's badass and amazing because I feel like it.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Like something much bigger than me drove that bus in the last two years, and all I did was aligned with it.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: And that's how that magic happened.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: Plus, I'm a little bit analy time management organized type of a person.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it didn't hurt to have those strengths.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: No, and I I think, yeah, I think that's such a great point that that the the feminine and the masculine aspects of our personality and our energy work together, not not in opposition or solo from one another.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: If we really wanted things to happen, we can't just be in our feminine state and flow all the time, and we can't just be in our masculine.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: I spent most of my life in my in my masculine, suppressing my feminine, because I believed and was conditioned to believe that being in that state was not productive, was not helpful.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: But I've actually learned that when I get into that state, the amount of things I'm able to accomplish with ease, with no time at all.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I time goes.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where it goes, but it I pull it from places and things just happen and it's done.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you also need the strategy and the project management and the team, you know?
38:19
SPEAKER_00: And I think that is something I see you doing.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: That's such a beautiful thing.
38:24
SPEAKER_00: You're pulling this beautiful team around you to support you and to carry on the mission.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: And there's so many of us that just are are in it.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: I I see as soul is like, we're like, all right, hand me the shield and the sword.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: I so appreciate you for that.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: I think that once I allowed myself to dream a bigger vision to really get around something that I knew it would wouldn't be just me loving that.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: It would, it would be lots of other people doing exactly what you just described.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, let's do that together.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: And there's a meaning and purpose behind that, not only for one or two people, but for the entire group of people moving out in one.
39:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, there's like little goosebumps there because it's big energy.
39:19
SPEAKER_01: There's big energy when we join hands and move it.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people don't like the word warrior, and they they just they go to war and fighting so much.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: And you know, I would like to redefine it right now for ever anyone watching.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: It's about moving into life and being willing to be vulnerable.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: That's the warrior, it's aligning with love.
39:48
SPEAKER_01: It's these are love warriors, right?
39:52
SPEAKER_01: So while we might have the vision of the shield and the sword, for me it's more about that big collaborative love energy that is really like pretty unstoppable.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: And you're exposing your softest parts, right?
40:07
SPEAKER_00: You have a sword and a shield, but there's so much of you that's exposed, right?
40:13
SPEAKER_00: Those soft parts and and the vulnerability of standing for what you believe in, you know?
40:20
SPEAKER_00: And so when we're all doing that, it's very hard not to catch it and be like, wait, I want to do that too.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: And that's a that's a good contagion, isn't it?
40:35
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's um something that grows and expands, and um, gosh, laser beams out in such a wonderful way.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: I've watched it over and over, and um I'm so honored and grateful to all of the people that have just you know come in and said, Yeah, me too.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Like, I want to help with this.
41:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, let me be involved, let's do this, you know.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm just so grateful.
41:05
SPEAKER_01: It's hard, I'm gonna say the G word like a thousand gazillion million times because I have my heart is just it's bursting with that energy.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, and when you feel that and really feel the gratitude, it's fuel.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: That's the fire.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: That's what keeps you going.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: Because you're like, I like that.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: I want to feel that again.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Give me more of that, please.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: That ability to feel the gratitude and and feel connected.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: For me, that's part of it too.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: It's the community, it's the connection, it's it's being able to hold hands with these people.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: The the people in this community are just incredible people.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: They're these human beings with these amazing stories and and you know, some very heartbreaking and some heartwarming, but it feels so good to be at that level with people, to know the depths of their soul and see they're they're surviving, they're thriving, they're moving forward.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: And to me, that's what attracts me to doing these projects because you're with these people, we're writing these stories that are are from our hearts, from heartbreak, um, from accomplishment and overcoming obstacles.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: And then let me tell you how you can get here too.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: That was the first thing that really struck me back in March 2020 when we were all like, what the heck is going on?
42:38
SPEAKER_00: And you were like, you know, guys, you came into the group and you said, I had a dream.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I had this dream, and so I reached out to a bunch of people and I was like, Let's do this.
42:50
SPEAKER_00: So, can you tell us about that dream that you had in March of 2020?
42:55
SPEAKER_01: I I will, yes.
42:57
SPEAKER_01: I never get tired of saying this story.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: It's um yeah.
43:02
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I had two businesses for a while.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, my physical therapy practice and Brave Healer Productions were running side by side for five years.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: I was making a transition, but really couldn't fully do it.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: I was too afraid, too afraid to leave the bread and butter and jump, right?
43:21
SPEAKER_01: And so March of 20, March 20th of 2020, I woke up.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: I had been dreaming.
43:27
SPEAKER_01: It's that space, just as you're waking up and you're kind of halfway between a dream and waking, and you kind of know you're in that zone.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: And this this was about a week after my physical therapy practice had been shut down by COVID.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: So I had been in a bit of a panic, not really sure what I was gonna be doing, but woke up dreaming the dream of doing the first ever book collaboration.
43:52
SPEAKER_01: I had been in four of these kinds of projects in the past, so it wasn't like I hadn't had the idea in the past.
43:58
SPEAKER_01: I had been in them and enjoyed being in them, but this was like, no, you're gonna do this one.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: And you're gonna invite your healer posse in to write a chapter, right?
44:08
SPEAKER_01: And so I went into that little Facebook group that you're talking about and I typed that note.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: It was a class I was teaching at the time, and I said, Who wants to do this?
44:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, we're going to teach self-healing techniques because of COVID.
44:22
SPEAKER_01: We all lost our healers in hand in person, hands-on.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to help empower people.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: Like there's so many things we can be doing on our own, and we will teach you.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: It's part of what we all do anyway.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: If we are real authentic healers, we know that empowering the clients to do it on their own is really where the magic is, right?
44:44
SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, yeah, this needs to be the book.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: So in 48 hours, 24 people said yes, and five weeks later, we had a number one Amazon best-selling book on our hands.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: And what?
44:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, like that's if you if y'all know anything about books in general, it was kind of a small miracle just to have a book out that fast, everybody turning their beautiful words in on time and getting it done.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: And so that's why I say since that day, something much bigger than me has been driving this bus.
45:20
SPEAKER_01: And all I've been really doing is following instructions, the divine orders from the universe, staying aligned with my joy and moving forward in that fashion.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: The other funny part about that story is that I really thought that that was gonna be it until a week after my friend emailed me, Miss Lilia Shoshana Ray, if you're watching.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: I love you, Lilia, for emailing me that day and saying, Hey, Laura, when are you gonna do the next one?
45:47
SPEAKER_01: And it's her fault that we have 30 now.
45:51
SPEAKER_01: So it's awesome.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: And and I Immediately supported the project, and I was like, You were like, I'm gonna have a launch group, you get to see it before it comes out.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh, well, that's a reader's dream.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: I want to see it before it comes out.
46:09
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, All right, sign me up for that.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: And I remember um sitting in my driveway, reading, I think it was on Easter.
46:19
SPEAKER_00: I was sitting outside, it was a nice day, um, reading the the arc, and just like, oh my gosh, this is amazing.
46:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, these are these are 25 tools that I can do right here and now.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, everybody needs this.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Everybody needs this.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so how many, how many books are we into that original series now?
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Five.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Five five volumes of the ultimate guide to self-healing.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: Thank you to every author who said yes to that project and came back for other projects.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: And um, right, because first of all, not one thing works for everybody.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to have a collection of ideas that people could try.
47:07
SPEAKER_01: You and I both know that when you've had illness or disease or pain or dysfunction in your mind, body, or soul, you might have tried so many different things and you're running out of hope and you feel like there's nothing else.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: Well, we're here to tell you there's plenty of other things to try.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: There's plenty of things.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to do each book where we had all the voices, first of all, speaking of how it went down for them, their personal story, but then the tools, the strategies, and the practices.
47:41
SPEAKER_01: There are so many amazing healing practices.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: And Kelly, I know you're a fan.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: What else is possible?
47:49
SPEAKER_01: I know you're a fan of that quote, right?
47:51
SPEAKER_01: What else is possible?
47:53
SPEAKER_01: And that gives people uh hope, but we wanted to give them toolkits.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: And so I get excited, you can tell, about this, because I didn't want to do a normal anthology.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: I wanted to do something that would put practical experiential strategies that people didn't have to go anywhere else to do and actually feel a change with right in the moment.
48:19
SPEAKER_01: And every author that has been in a book, if you're listening to this, thank you so much for being so generous with your stories, the vulnerability, the courage, and also with teaching your master teachings.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: You all are amazing.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: And if if you're listening or watching and you haven't checked out one of these books, you absolutely need to.
48:48
SPEAKER_00: And I think the thing that separates them from other projects is is one, that piece of the story and a tool or a strategy.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: And most of the tools and strategies are things that are accessible within your own home.
49:06
SPEAKER_00: You don't need to spend any money, go anywhere.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: So you're purchasing a book and you're getting all of these tools and this wisdom.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: And most authors are additionally providing a resource on their website where you can go as a reader and get more information.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: And for me as a writer, that's been one of my favorite things creating this special resource page for people to come to.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, um, in in one of my books, I talked about my grandfather, um, and I share pictures of my grandfather from the 60s and the 70s, and from, you know, he and his whole family when they were little.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: And so I found that such a fun healing and therapeutic practice for me.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: But then for for my readers to be able to come and to sort of sit in my life a little bit.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: It's it's like it's just an exponential give to the person who's reading the book.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: And it's like multiply that times 25.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: And uh it's it's it's like an endless self-development.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know about you, but but before self-development was like a cool thing, you used to have to go and like hide in you know the bookstore in the self-development and hope nobody saw you.
50:25
SPEAKER_00: And like, is somebody gonna judge me as I'm pulling out this book about things metaphysical, you know?
50:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh boy, oh boy.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: My part of my mission is to blow that whole thing out of the water.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, I speak healer speak, and I feel like part of the reason I was born was to be a bridge, so to a translator.
50:47
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we have magical, really capital M magical tools and strategies and practices that we've all learned and teach.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes it's just about using the language so someone can really get it and again feel the hope that there might be something different.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for mentioning the resource links and all of this because I think that if people really understood what they're getting in even one of the books, it would be a mind blower.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: It's a lot, and it will keep you busy for a while.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: I think it will be hard to run out of um ideas and hope and inspiration, and then again, practical tools that you can play with.
51:30
SPEAKER_01: There are full powerful meditations in these books.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: There are recipes for self-treatment, and and again, mind, body, soul, all of it.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: So thank you, Kelly, for um talking about that.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: And I'm it makes me happy that you have seen the value there as an author, as a person, and and everything.
51:56
SPEAKER_01: Um how cool that you were able to put the photos up, things that you talked about in the chapter, a way to peep for people to kind of have a peek beyond the story, beyond the chapter.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: And it's those connections that help people feel not alone.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: So they're like, Yeah, absolutely.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: And the the difference with this being that the authors are open to connecting and communication, and you can certainly, there's there's so many opportunities to work with any of the authors, but they just want to hear this helped me because for us, when somebody says your tool helped me, that that's all we ever need in the world.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: Just one person, one person that we've helped.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: And I know that that's something that means a lot to you and and has given you a lot of freedom to sort of move forward because you can help one person.
52:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, it really is something that I come back to a lot, and you know the Shirley story, my one person.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, in to summarize that idea, you sometimes never know who's watching, who's reading, but it doesn't matter.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: I want you all to know that they are.
53:18
SPEAKER_01: And one thing that you share, a moment where you were brave or vulnerable, is a it's a game changer for somebody else.
53:28
SPEAKER_01: It is, whether you're having the person reach out or not.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: I was very lucky to have somebody reach out to me and let me know.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: And of course, that helped me understand and be more brave with everything I did.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: It ended up being a fuel, a fire underneath me every single day.
53:49
SPEAKER_01: I wake up in the morning and when I'm having any of that boring fear, I'm just like, eh, don't waste my time, you know, like um there's somebody waiting to hear what you have to say in exactly the way only you can say it.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: And if it's the same message, you know, 20 people sharing the same message, guess what?
54:09
SPEAKER_01: The way you say it is gonna be the way that helps somebody.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Everyone needs the voice that they can hear.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: Yours might be that one.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: And so I encourage people everything has been said, done, written before, but not by you.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: That's I learned that.
54:31
SPEAKER_00: That's my other favorite Laura quote.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: It's been said before, but not by you.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: And I needed that because I second guessed myself, you know, prior to connecting with you, I'd want to write about something, but I'd be like, well, somebody else wrote about that already.
54:47
SPEAKER_00: But not but not in my way.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: And that that authentic voice that we get to express, and the other piece to that that gets me even more excited is there's room for all of us.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: This is not an exclusive club.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: It's it's infinite possibilities that everyone can do this.
55:09
SPEAKER_00: This is not something that is, you know, just for a few.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: Everyone who has a story and a voice and a tool can teach it.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't have to be this huge earth-shattering thing.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: In my first chapter, I taught about creating a sacred bedroom space.
55:27
SPEAKER_00: Now, it may not be earth-shattering, you know, medical advice, but for me, being able to create a sacred bedroom space meant I got better sleep, meant I had more energy, meant my life just got exponentially better.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: But it's it's very simple first steps.
55:45
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I love because it's accessible.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: You're talking about the subtle shifts.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: And this was a book that my friend Colleen put together, Sacred Spaces.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: She talked about subtle shifts that make huge, can can make a huge deal.
56:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, sleep and the different things that you've written about in terms of helping people understand how to set up the energy for amazing sleep.
56:14
SPEAKER_01: That I mean, for some people, that's going to be a life-changing moment, you know, when they make those little changes.
56:20
SPEAKER_01: I think what a cool thing when you realize just a simple little maybe hour in the bedroom reorganizing, doing a little cleaning, doing a little decluttering could completely change what's going on there.
56:34
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, sleep.
56:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh you know, one of my favorite mentors says um naps are a success strategy.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: They are.
56:45
SPEAKER_00: There is scientific proof that it does.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: Because you know I've geeked out on sleep.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: So there is scientific proof that yeah, um, athletes, um, high-level musicians, they use naps to improve performance.
57:00
SPEAKER_01: Yep, I'm on board.
57:02
SPEAKER_01: I like the naps.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: It's that we've we've been so complete in covering all of the amazing things that you've been doing in the world.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: And I think the most exciting part about that is the friendships that have been born out of your bravery.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, to come back to what I was saying, those first small steps that people are taking can be incredible first steps on the path to something amazing.
57:36
SPEAKER_00: And we don't know what's around the bend, but it's exciting and it's amazing, and it's gonna be an incredible journey.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: And so as you're listening today or you're watching today, think about something that has sort of kicked you into high gear, whether it was the question, what else is possible?
57:56
SPEAKER_00: Which I kept posted on my wall.
57:58
SPEAKER_00: I took, I took my poster from my office at home and I put it in my cubicle at work.
58:03
unknown: I love it.
58:04
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I could use some mindset shifts here.
58:07
SPEAKER_00: Or the idea that your fear of not good enough is boring.
58:11
SPEAKER_00: So if you could push that aside, what would you do?
58:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, but regardless of whatever first steps you take in in the next part of your journey, I highly encourage you to connect with Laura.
58:24
SPEAKER_00: She is the brave badass CEO of Brave Healer Productions, which is an empire that is growing at an exponential rate, fueled from somewhere else, not just from Laura DeFranco herself.
58:40
SPEAKER_00: I will put all the ways that you can connect with Laura, and I really encourage you, if you feel motivated and excited by what she's been talking about, to join her community on Facebook to follow what she does.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: And if you're a writer and you've been sitting at home, you know, twiddling your thumbs, feeling that purpose-driven fear, and you want to write in projects, I encourage you to go to her website linked up in the show notes where you can find the projects that are coming up.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: As an author, four times Amazon bestseller, and working on my fifth at the moment.
59:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, I can say that the experience is so worth every invested ounce of yourself.
59:22
SPEAKER_00: And on the other end of it, you're going to be a different person and feel amazing.
59:28
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
59:29
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for all of that.
59:33
unknown: Yeah.
59:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful for your friendship, your mentorship, your your coaching.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: Um, you, as you say about yourself, you always over-deliver, Laura.
59:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, and today is no different.
59:48
SPEAKER_00: You've given so much of yourself, and I'm so grateful for you.
59:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, thank thank you.
59:54
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being along from the beginning and for the support and the love and and the poetry and the songs and the just you know, warrior spirit.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_01: We call it indomitable spirit in the martial arts.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_01: And um, I'm just I've been honored to run with somebody with that kind of spirit.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me here today and for all of the kind words.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_00: And listen, we're just getting started, so this is only the beginning.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: Thank you everyone for tuning in, for listening, um, for all the love we're getting from from Facebook this morning, um, watching us live.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_00: I thank all of you as part of this community, and thank you for staying curious with us.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: Have a great day, everybody.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_00: Take care.