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Football at Four: Concerns and Realities From Eagles Preseason Game · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Time for football Inside the Birds podcast, Bosher, who's joining us.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna break things.
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Speaker 1: Down from the weekend going forward to this preseason game
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Speaker 1: with Patriots.
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Speaker 2: I know it's a week.
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Speaker 1: Practice, but Jeffy, belated birthday, my friend.
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Speaker 2: I hope you had a great time.
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Speaker 3: I did, thank you. It's it's felt like my birthday
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Speaker 3: month instead of my birthday since we are now about
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Speaker 3: fourteen days removed and I'm still celebrating a little bit.
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Speaker 3: But that's the funny thing.
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Speaker 2: You're like a twenty two year old girl. Yeah you
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Speaker 2: had a birth month.
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Speaker 3: An influencer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're an influencer.
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Speaker 3: I've been called the worst peachy.
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Speaker 1: Well, Jeff, I want to talk about the preseason dud
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Speaker 1: that was on Saturday Night.
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Speaker 2: One takeaway I did have. I thought Jeremiah.
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Speaker 1: Trotter looked really good over the weekend, uh for the
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Speaker 1: most part, but I thought he was someone who had
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Speaker 1: a big game. Jeff, what did you make a Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Trotter's performance.
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Speaker 3: I've been thinking a lot about Jeremiah Trotter because you know,
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Speaker 3: I can't remember a bad practice ever from Jeremiah Trotter
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Speaker 3: junior at going back to his rookie year, this is
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Speaker 3: year three now, and what a time to be alive
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Speaker 3: for Jeremiah Trotter Junior, because there's probably never not since
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Speaker 3: I've been covering the team for twenty some odd years,
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Speaker 3: and even going back where a guy could be that
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Speaker 3: good and not break into the starting lineup at off
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Speaker 3: ball linebacker for the Eagles. I mean ten years ago
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Speaker 3: he would have been their best off ball linebacker by
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Speaker 3: ten miles. And now now he can't even start because
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Speaker 3: they have an All Pro in a first round pick.
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Speaker 3: I do I wonder. I don't think how he wants
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Speaker 3: to get rid of him in any because it's important
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Speaker 3: to have depth. But smile, mind and Junior is there
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Speaker 3: and chance Campbell's the guy they really like, and they're
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Speaker 3: gonna have to make tough rofster decisions.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: Part of me wonders with how we call around, what
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Speaker 3: people call him to maybe inquire about the availability of
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Speaker 3: Jeremy am I Trotter Junior. But I you know, the
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Speaker 3: Eagles really like him and you can't really depend on
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be unfair, but John Campbell has
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Speaker 3: had shoulder surgeries twice in three years so far, and
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Speaker 3: he you know, comes from Alabama, he had some injuries there.
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Speaker 3: He's I think Trotter is a really good players. Probably
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Speaker 3: if he's he's probably gonna be on the field.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And I wonder if Vic Fangiel will try to figure
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Speaker 3: out some ways to get him on the field, but
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Speaker 3: not necessarily at the expense of other good players.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he really stood out early on in
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Speaker 1: the ballgame. But one guy who I think had a
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Speaker 1: little bit of trouble and continues to is Killy Ringo.
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Speaker 1: What what do you believe his role is gonna be
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Speaker 1: and where he's at? I mean, he lets up the
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Speaker 1: first touchdown of the game. He's just slow to get
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Speaker 1: into the route and cover the receiver going going across
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Speaker 1: the middle. What do you make of Killy Ringo's role
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Speaker 1: going forward with this organization?
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Speaker 3: I don't make anything. He has no role other outside
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Speaker 3: of special teams. He's a very good gunner, a Pro
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Speaker 3: Bowl level gunner. If he's on the team, that's what
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Speaker 3: he'll be. He's not in the pecking order. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you've got the only way he's in the pecking order
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Speaker 3: is if you have a rash of injuries, and right
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Speaker 3: now the Eagles kind of do you know, I know day,
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Speaker 3: you had Quenya Mitchell back and Cooper to Gen back
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Speaker 3: at practice, so you know Ringo was back to being
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Speaker 3: among the third teamers. But the other day, on Thursday,
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Speaker 3: the last practice before today, there was no Degene, no Mitchell,
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Speaker 3: no Treique Castro Fields, who has even escalated up the
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Speaker 3: dip chart. So that's when you saw Ringo finally get
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Speaker 3: some reps opposite Wooland, but not before Mac McWilliams got
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Speaker 3: one too. So if you're gonna do a when healthy,
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Speaker 3: who is above Kielley Ringo, answer to your question. Right
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Speaker 3: when healthy, You've got Cooper Gen, You've got quinn On Mitchell.
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Speaker 3: You've got Michael Carter Junior as a nickelback ahead of
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Speaker 3: Killey Ringo. You've got Jonathan Jones, the thirty three year
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Speaker 3: old backup that they signed who is now injured. But
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Speaker 3: we'll see when healthy, I said, right, he would be
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Speaker 3: ahead of kill Ringo, and so would mac McWilliams and
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Speaker 3: maybe possibly even Tury Castro Fields, which just shows you
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Speaker 3: that if he's on the team, Killer Ringo is their
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Speaker 3: gunner and that's it. And you know he's another guy
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Speaker 3: that we'll see at cutdown to day. If there's some
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Speaker 3: kind of intro. I can't imagine there would be, but
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Speaker 3: if how he could could unload him, he might try.
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Speaker 4: Jeff, one of the more polarizing guys coming out of
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Speaker 4: the draft is Eli Stower, second round pick.
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Speaker 2: Fan base is going crazy.
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Speaker 4: They're going I mean, they're really concerned about the camp
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Speaker 4: that he's having and the preseason game that he had
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Speaker 4: on Saturday night. I guess for you, Jeff, this guy
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Speaker 4: was always going to be a project, right, I mean
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Speaker 4: new position.
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Speaker 2: For him, right? Are you? What's your level of concern
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Speaker 2: with him?
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Speaker 4: Does he still profile as a tight end or is
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Speaker 4: he maybe more of a wide receiver? I guess just
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Speaker 4: your overall thoughts of the camp and the game that
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Speaker 4: Eli Stower's had for us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would hope that nobody who is
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Speaker 3: rational and who listens to Inside the Birds or ninety
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Speaker 3: seven to three ESPN Football at four would have expected
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Speaker 3: much more from Elia Stowers because when they when we
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Speaker 3: when the Eagles drafted him, we talked about how much
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Speaker 3: of a great, how great of an athlete that he is,
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Speaker 3: and this athletic traits that he would bring to the position,
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Speaker 3: but that he was far behind as a blocker. He'd
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Speaker 3: only played tight end for two years at Vanderbilt. He
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Speaker 3: was a quarterback before that, and in those two years
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Speaker 3: he played in an offense that didn't really ask a
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Speaker 3: lot of blocking from the tight end position. So this
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Speaker 3: is all relatively new to him, and I've seen it
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Speaker 3: every year for as long as I've been reporting that.
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Speaker 3: When you have a kid who's swimming upstairs in his
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Speaker 3: head trying to figure things out, he plays slower. Your
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Speaker 3: play speed, your play speed and your time speed can
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Speaker 3: be two different things depending on what's going on with
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Speaker 3: you mentally, and right now he looks like he's adjusting
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Speaker 3: slowly to the physicality of that position the game overall,
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Speaker 3: and he's playing slow. It's not really letting us athletic
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Speaker 3: traits come through. I think we all remember it might
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Speaker 3: be a while though, but zach Ertz was similar. He
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Speaker 3: came in as a pass catching tight end, didn't block
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Speaker 3: a whole lot at Stanford, which does produce some good blockers,
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Speaker 3: but he wasn't one of them, and he was slow
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Speaker 3: to adjuster. Now, he was far more advanced than Eli
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Speaker 3: because he had played the position and he had been
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Speaker 3: asked to block in college. He just wasn't great at it,
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Speaker 3: and you saw how rough it was for Ertz year
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Speaker 3: one and year two. We all remember him not tackling
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Speaker 3: Vontees perfect right on the interception return and getting all
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Speaker 3: sorts of grief from Eagles fans, and then he wound
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Speaker 3: up having a very good career. So yeah, you gotta
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Speaker 3: be patient. The problem, Pete and Nick is that this
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Speaker 3: is not like the way. This is not the offense
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Speaker 3: set the Eagles were running years ago. This is an
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Speaker 3: offense where you're in a lot of twelve personnel but
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Speaker 3: being asked to block, you're asked to run. And he's
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Speaker 3: just not You saw, I saw that in the preseason game.
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Speaker 3: He was that's not his forte right now.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Shawn spoke earlier today, and you know they weren't
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Speaker 1: going to show much of this offense.
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Speaker 2: People shouldn't have expected anything.
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Speaker 1: Really, you were gonna see a lot of different concepts
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Speaker 1: or anything like that.
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Speaker 2: From your perspective at training camp for Sean Mannion, what.
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Speaker 1: Is the expectation for this entire offense heading into the
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Speaker 1: season and what should people expect from the new version
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Speaker 1: of what Jalen Hurts and company are learning.
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Speaker 3: Well, First and foremost, Nick and Pete you know, one
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Speaker 3: of the things that I don't think it's discussed enough
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Speaker 3: and you I think you can judge it positively even
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Speaker 3: without like results or good is getting to the line
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Speaker 3: of scrimmage and getting the play calls in. That has
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Speaker 3: been really to me sharp and on time in training camp.
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Speaker 3: And uh, I thought it was decent in the preseason game.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I know Sean said today he was
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Speaker 3: gonna coach the next game from the booth. He was sidelined,
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Speaker 3: you know, because he's trying to figure out what the
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Speaker 3: best thing is for him. But before the egle. I
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Speaker 3: hate to say this, and I know that some people
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Speaker 3: aren't going to agree with it, but sometimes when you
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Speaker 3: especially when you're learning a new offense, you got to
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Speaker 3: crawl before you walk. And I think to get passed
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Speaker 3: last year, one of the first things Eagles have to
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Speaker 3: do is to just be cleaner out of the huddle.
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Speaker 3: They have to get to the line of scrimmage. They
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Speaker 3: have to get plays off. You can't constantly and I
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Speaker 3: know this last game wasn't a great example of it
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Speaker 3: because they only ran forty four plays, but they were
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Speaker 3: better to the line of scrimmage. They just weren't running
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Speaker 3: plays because they weren't effective in moving the chains. That
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Speaker 3: to me, first of all, we didn't even see the starters,
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Speaker 3: But I just wanted to see this offense function at
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Speaker 3: a pace that is not like molasses. And I thought
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Speaker 3: at least you were able to see that against the Ravens.
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Speaker 3: And we'll see how that looks going forward, and then
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Speaker 3: especially in joint practices, you know, against the Patriots. We'll say,
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Speaker 3: but I think so far watching in training camp, that
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Speaker 3: is an area to be pleased about that the common
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Speaker 3: fans really won't be able to see until a week one.
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Speaker 4: Jeff Andy Dalton, Tanner McKee and Cole Payton? Is it
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Speaker 4: three guys for two spots? In your estimation? Do the
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Speaker 4: Eagles kind of want Andy Dalton to win this job?
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Speaker 4: I know it's still an open competition, but they did
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Speaker 4: go out and trade for him, and he's been in
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Speaker 4: the league for years.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 4: What's your gauge I guess on the quarterback competition? Is
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Speaker 4: it three guys for two spots? Can you find a
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Speaker 4: role for Cole Payton on this team?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete, that's that's for me. That's been the enigma
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Speaker 3: wrapped in a riddle for ever since they acquired Dalton,
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Speaker 3: like you got four and draft of Peyton. You got
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Speaker 3: four quarterbacks? You know how many are gonna be active
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Speaker 3: on game day two?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 3: So what do you? What do you? Who's gonna get
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Speaker 3: practice reps? Because really, your first team quarterback gets all
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Speaker 3: the reps. Sometimes your backup gets reps. Sometimes he does not,
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Speaker 3: and then whoever is left sometimes that backup runs the
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Speaker 3: scout team or third quarterback. Now you got four, it's
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Speaker 3: it's easy to say, well, you could just get rid
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Speaker 3: of one of them, but that one would be Dalton.
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Speaker 3: But they're they're in bed with him contractually for decent money,
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Speaker 3: even though I believe the Panthers are picking up half
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Speaker 3: of it. So I don't know how it's gonna work out.
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Speaker 3: I've been trying to figure it out on my own head.
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Speaker 3: I suppose there's a shot that Dalton gets traded. I
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Speaker 3: suppose there's shot and McKee gets traded. There's still a
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Speaker 3: chance that somebody gets hurt in training camp and a
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Speaker 3: quarterback demand, you know, gets up there, just like years
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Speaker 3: and years ago when Teddy Bridgewater got hurt and it
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Speaker 3: led to the Eagles trading Sam Bradford. Right, So I
10:39
Speaker 3: can't sit here right now. I'm very I'm just as
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Speaker 3: curious as you to see how it works itself out.
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Speaker 1: We're talking with Jeff Moscher inside the Birds football at four.
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Speaker 2: Jeff. One room that very much.
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Speaker 1: Intrigues me right now is the wide receiver room. DeVante
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Speaker 1: Smith back out at practice today. Darius Cooper seems to
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Speaker 1: have been or become the dark of training camp. With
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Speaker 1: McKay Lemon dealing with some injuries as well. Where is
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Speaker 1: that wide receiver room at? What do you make of
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Speaker 1: my Kai Lemon missing time? I mean, where's he gonna
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Speaker 1: be at? Where the start of the season coming up
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Speaker 1: here shortly, and Darius Cooper didn't really do much, had
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Speaker 1: a big third down drop in that preseason game on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: What's the wide receiver room looking like?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think McKay's gonna be close. You know, he's
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Speaker 3: he's been out for a while, but he's really starting
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Speaker 3: to ramp up what he's been doing in warm ups.
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Speaker 3: I would I'd be kind of surprised if his first
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Speaker 3: time back on the field in a real practice setting
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Speaker 3: is joint practices against the Patriots that are going to
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Speaker 3: be physical and intense. But maybe he does individual work
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Speaker 3: there or some seven on sevens. I would think the
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Speaker 3: first practice after the Patriots game, as long as everything
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Speaker 3: is going the way things are going, we probably will
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Speaker 3: see him ramping up more so, and then once we do,
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Speaker 3: you know, he's gonna get every opportunity to be the
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Speaker 3: quote unquote number two wide receiver. But there's no question
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Speaker 3: that Dantavian Wicks and Darius Cooper and even Elijah Moore
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Speaker 3: have been obviously have had good camps and good rapports.
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Speaker 3: But you know, let's be realistic. When Week one happens
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Speaker 3: and the offense jogs out onto the field and they're
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Speaker 3: in let's say they're in thirteen sorry, eleven personnel, three
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Speaker 3: wide receivers. It's gonna be DeVante Smith, It's probably gonna
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Speaker 3: be Dantavian Wicks. I'm not sure yet who would be
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Speaker 3: that third receiver. But they're also gonna play a lot
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Speaker 3: of twelve personnel, so that would be your two wide receivers.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll figure out ways to get Marcus Brown
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Speaker 3: if he's on the team some opportunities there. Dallas Goddard
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Speaker 3: is gonna be your second in line for targets though,
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Speaker 3: right so it's gonna be DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard, You're
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Speaker 3: gonna see a lot of running with Saquon Barkley. So
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Speaker 3: as Adam Kaplan's always saying he's right, we make a
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Speaker 3: big deal about it. This Darius Cooper and Dontavian Wicks
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Speaker 3: and all the they're the fourth and fifth options on
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Speaker 3: a good day, you know what I'm saying, Like when
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Speaker 3: they face the Bears, are not the Bear, the Rams
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Speaker 3: or somebody has a really good defense. And maybe there's
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Speaker 3: only like thirty one attempts in twenty five completions and
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Speaker 3: eleven to fifteen of them to eighteen of them go
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Speaker 3: to Davante Smith and Dallas Conder. We're talking about five
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Speaker 3: to seven targets and passes for everybody else, right, don't
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Speaker 3: forget the running backs that might be catching the ball
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Speaker 3: a little bit more in this offense too. So that's
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Speaker 3: where I'm at with the wide receiver room, it's it's
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Speaker 3: Davante Smith, Dallas Goddard went healthy, I'm gonna call to pass,
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Speaker 3: catch a room, and then everybody else picks up the scraps.
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Speaker 1: Jeff looking at the offensive line, I know there's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about the depth on the O line,
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Speaker 1: and obviously the injuries were a major concern last year
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be a major concern heading into this year.
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Speaker 1: The stemstells off over the summer lane. Johnson's probably gonna
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Speaker 1: be his last year. What do you make of the
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Speaker 1: depth on the offensive line into this year?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's better, Nick and Pete. I think,
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Speaker 3: I mean it should be. I know, you know, Adam
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Speaker 3: and I are big on just not taking anything you
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Speaker 3: see in training camp and making any long term declarations.
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Speaker 3: But going off of last year, right, last year, you're
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Speaker 3: top guys off the bench for Fred Johnson at tackle,
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Speaker 3: Matt Pryor at sort of swing tackle and then not
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Speaker 3: and then on the inside it was what Brett toath Right,
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna go ahead and
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Speaker 3: say that Land that Fred, Mark Helbell and Kendall Drew
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Speaker 3: Kendall are gonna be an upgrade there. Could I be wrong, sure,
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Speaker 3: but I don't think I'm gonna be wrong. So I
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Speaker 3: think I think you're looking at better depth overall. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you need to be honestly, they better be and Mark
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Speaker 3: Albell better be better than Matt Pryor.
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Speaker 2: He just better.
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Speaker 3: You're a third round pick, and you're as big as
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Speaker 3: a mac truck. They're doing the right thing by cross
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Speaker 3: training him at left tackle, even though he's only gonna
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Speaker 3: play right tackle. So that's good there, and then we'll see.
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Speaker 3: You know, we can talk about like guys like Willie
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Speaker 3: Lampkin right, or Mike and Morris or Juku. But you
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Speaker 3: know that's now. If you're talking about your fourth and
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Speaker 3: fifth guys off the bench on the old line, you're
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Speaker 3: not talking about a very good season if those guys
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Speaker 3: have to play. So But but I do think it's
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Speaker 3: important to talk about the first two guys. And I
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Speaker 3: think Fred and Kendall or Fred and Markel that gives
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Speaker 3: you an upgrade over Fred and and and Matt Pryor
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Speaker 3: or or Fred and and Toath.
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Speaker 4: I guess, Jeff, one word we heard a lot last
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Speaker 4: year in their struggles was the word execution. And they
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Speaker 4: didn't really execute on Saturday night with the penalties and
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Speaker 4: the drops and all that. How important in this offense, Jeff,
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Speaker 4: is execution? And when you talk about blocking, timing, moving
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Speaker 4: your feet, quick routes under center and all that stuff,
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Speaker 4: how important is it for this team to execute something
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Speaker 4: that they that they just did not do last year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's important execute, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 3: I could borrow an old line from the Bucks coach
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Speaker 3: John McKay when he was asked about his team's execution,
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Speaker 3: and he said he was in favor of it. But
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Speaker 3: that's what I was looking for, that's the question. But
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be realistic and I'm gonna be honest. And
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people.
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Speaker 4: Because also Jeff, I mean, Sirianni after the games that
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Speaker 4: we're a work in progress.
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Speaker 2: You know there's gonna be veins.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I believe that. And I've referenced this before
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Speaker 3: with Mike and even on our inside the Birds pod, like,
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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if you saw a lot
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Speaker 3: of pre snap penalties, a lot of false starts early
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Speaker 3: on some holdings or missile or maybe even illegal shifts
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Speaker 3: and motions, because you're doing a lot more of that.
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Speaker 3: And I go back to the Jaguars learning an entirely
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Speaker 3: new offense last year under Liam Cohen. And I don't
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Speaker 3: know if people remember this, because I know they won
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Speaker 3: thirteen games and were pretty good, but September was a
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Speaker 3: mess for the Jags. If you go look at them offensive.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Brian Thomas was dropping passes. Trevor Lawrence was
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Speaker 3: one of the lowest rated quarterbacks in the NFL. You know,
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Speaker 3: their run game was okay, it was nothing great, and
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Speaker 3: I think and they were bogged with penalties. And I
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Speaker 3: would expect that the Eagles, as Nick serri Andani said,
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Speaker 3: or are going to have those growing pains early on.
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Speaker 3: And I'm very anxious to see if the fan base
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Speaker 3: can be you know, patient with it. Not typically something
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Speaker 3: that we associate with our fan base and our media
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Speaker 3: as well. So we'll see. But you know, if the
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Speaker 3: Eagles start slow, it wouldn't shock me. But obviously, like
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Speaker 3: just like two thousand and four, it's gonna be how
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Speaker 3: you fit it from October on as how you play.
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Speaker 3: And they're and like the Jags last year, they were
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Speaker 3: really good come November December, I mean they were really
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Speaker 3: starting to get it. Lawrence was really starting to pop
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Speaker 3: with Parker Washington and his weapons, and the Eagles have
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Speaker 3: better weaponry than the Jaguars do, so once they do
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Speaker 3: get it, it should look good. But I do think
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Speaker 3: it's going to be a little bit slowest to begin with.
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Speaker 4: That's the rational thinking that we were looking.
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Speaker 1: At Sorry, Jeff, one last one.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you guys will be really, really rational
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Speaker 3: on Mondays. Eighteen points a game, right, I'm giving them
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Speaker 3: two quarters.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: The white Horse RV text line will be blowing up,
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Speaker 1: to say the least.
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Speaker 2: But Jeff, one more for you.
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Speaker 1: As we go into this week and the joint practices
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Speaker 1: at New England, we know everyone's been circling this on
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Speaker 1: their calendar for a preseason week. I should say, leading
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Speaker 1: up to the game, what is your outlook and your
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Speaker 1: expectations surrounding this whole entire week?
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Speaker 3: My outlook and my expectation, you know, I think you'll see.
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Speaker 3: I think the cool thing about practicing against the Patriots
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Speaker 3: is they are always well prepared, well coached. I mean
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Speaker 3: when I say always under Mike Rabel, especially Vrabel is
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Speaker 3: gonna have his guys ready to go, be prepared. He
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Speaker 3: is a good coach. They'll be well coached. You're playing
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Speaker 3: against a pretty good defense there that you're gonna have
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Speaker 3: joint practices against. So I think that that's gonna be
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Speaker 3: another great test for this work in progress offense. And
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Speaker 3: you know, starters aren't gonna play in the preseason game,
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Speaker 3: so these they'll script up some really good situational periods,
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Speaker 3: red zone, third down, move the ball, and it'll be exciting.
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Speaker 3: And I imagine because both of these coaches are real
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Speaker 3: sticklers on discipline and not you know, not letting things
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Speaker 3: get out of hand that yeah, there'll be some scrap,
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Speaker 3: but they'll be taking care of really quickly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating.
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Speaker 1: I know the check go's going up there as well
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Speaker 1: to Boston for this week. But Jeff, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for joining us on football at four. And you
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Speaker 1: got what thirteen fourteen more days of your belated birthday
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Speaker 1: and your birthday month?
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Speaker 2: All right, so enjoy birthday month?
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Speaker 3: Can I make it a birthday year?
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Speaker 1: Is that?
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Speaker 3: Is that? Okay?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not? Right?
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Speaker 3: The birthday?
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Speaker 2: I love it. Go have yourself a stake today, man, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: go enjoy it. Jeff, thanks so much, man, We appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: You got a fellows. Take care