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From Logos to Loafers: Jesus' Fashion Insights · Brunch with Brittany

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: what's up.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to brunch with britney another episode.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Grab your drinks, get ready.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: I'm doing h2o today.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: I think we both are me.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: My guest today, which I will introduce in a second, because I brought this guest on because, as well as this is a girl's girl podcast, it's also to teach men some things.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: And my friend, who I've known for years okay, since I was like a teen, all right, well, he has gone on to do so many different things with his life, with careers.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Well, he has gone on to do so many different things with his life, with careers, and one of the things was fashion, between fashion and just high-end, I would say what would you call it?
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Well, by the way, let me welcome, let me welcome Jesus here.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: What's up, Hi Brittany?
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Hey Jesus, so I'm so glad you're here.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're here because I was was like who's the perfect person to talk to the men about fashion style?
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: What to what do's and don'ts?
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: You know because you've been around a lot of high-end brands and companies that you've worked for.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Um, if you want to name any, if you can sure.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: So I've worked with movato, I've worked with nordstrom um, those are like the two big ones that I'd say I've worked with.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: And I know, like you, would get a lot of clientele too that would come in and, like you know, they spend a lot of money in there and there were certain things that they would teach you about, about all of the high end stuff, whether it be from watches to outfits, to cologne, to how to apply all of that.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk to you today.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: For the men who are dealing with struggling with fashion or just, you know, don't know what to do, don't know where to start, you, to me, are the guide, you are the go-to.
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Like you have those answers well, I appreciate that, yes okay, so let's start with one of the things for me that I always notice with men.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: Um, the fashion shirts that have the the logo brands on them, what, how are we supposed to?
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: How are the men supposed to be wearing those?
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: Because some are very, you know, logoed out.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: How does that come off?
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: And what would you say to?
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: How does that come off?
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: well, I'm gonna start off by saying I don't feel like I'm an expert.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: I think that I've found success in like my fashion game just through trial and error and like you said.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: Because I've worked with so many higher-end brands and around higher-end clientele and even just kind of the people I associate myself with, I tend to watch and learn from those guys and see what they're doing, because I want to really imitate and early on in my life I knew I wanted to kind of grow and to be in that space.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: When it comes to logos, I'm anti-logo anything unless it's like a classic brand like ralph lauren okay, so wait, because there's different versions of ralph lauren there's the us polo association.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: That one, I think no okay, um and I will say, like, early on in high school I was big on brands with like I don't know if you remember like echo or like oh my god echo.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: It was a big one, for sure.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: I remember I wanted a sean john track suit so badly, just to like have the logo yeah, but I think, as you get older you really just don't want to cause at least for me that much attention to like what you're wearing, because it kind of can distract from like who you're with the conversation, if you're on a date, if you're interviewing or meeting someone important.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: So I myself am like very anti-logo heavy.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Unless it's, like I said, a classic brand.
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: You can still maybe get away with Tommy Hilfiger, old school classic brands that have been around for a long time.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: And what style would you say?
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're in summer and I feel like there's fashions for every time of the year, but we're here in Florida specifically, but in summer it's a lot of to me.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: I think linen is great on me.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: What are you wearing right now?
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: What is this made out of?
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: This is like a silky material.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: Again summer, you got to know your fabrics, gentlemen, uh because you don't want to be a sweaty mess outside or when you're with someone.
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, like especially on a date too, because you want to make sure that you wear the proper attire.
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: You don't want to be sweating through it.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: We are in florida, but, yeah, so to me, like the linens, which I'm I thought that's what this was but something light, something thin and um, the colors like you're wearing cream.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: What colors do the guys need to have in their wardrobe?
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: again.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: For me, it's like causing or calling less attention to what you're wearing, to like focus on what is in front of you or who's in front of you.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: For me, I don't try to wear too many colors, depending on where I'm at right, like if I'm, I tend to dress for who I'm going to be with or where I'm going.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: If I'm in miami, you bring out all the bright all the colors loud, bright stuff that you want to right if I'm in naples having dinner somewhere, for sure, like muted, neutral tones, one pop of color and like something neutral, just like I'm wearing, like a little bit of blue cream colored shirt easy, and it makes it easier, I think, in your wardrobe to mix and match stuff so you're not like buying a ton of different shirts.
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: Um, and even for me, a lot of what I have I've had for a long time since, I'd say, around college, is when I really started to find brands or clothes that I felt fit my aesthetic and like where I wanted to be or grow into.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: So for me that that was JCrew.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: So a lot of muted, not super loud.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: They did have a lot of like floral and bright colored shirts, which I do have, but I'd say overall my wardrobe is a lot more muted and not like super loud anymore.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say I've never seen you in floral Okay let me start there.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: So you're clearly not using those shirts.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: No, but I do think that you can use them.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: You can get away with them, um, if you do them.
• 5:23
  Speaker 1: And by correctly I just mean like, uh, if you're gonna do a floral, you know, do it with a nice color like mint green is really nice, you know.
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: On men, um, I think that style, that color, goes with everyone.
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: The colors to me, though I think that a lot of men miss out on it the typical go-to right is like black, you got to go to black.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: That's the easiest thing to dress and wear for men.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: But I think that they're missing the browns, the creams, the, you know, in those in between tones and um, versus black gray or blue right, like black gray and blue, to me is the, the, the, the color guys feel most easiest to grab I also think it comes with comfort level when you understand, uh like color schemes and like the color wheel, like understanding what colors look good on you.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Like I would never wear orange because I like understanding what colors look good on you.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: Like I would never wear orange because I look like an Oompa Loompa, because I'm like fairer skinned right, but like a lot of the other colors that you mentioned, like lighter colors I think, work well with my skin tone.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: So like yellow, orange, red is a good color to like, venture out with and I think when you understand color patterns and like the color wheel, which is very basic, you can understand how to like make an outfit for what you're wearing and where you're going I will say be careful with the reds, though.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: The reds can be very alarming, like they can be very aggressive.
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: So red looks good, but you know I have read that red in an interview, like a red tie gives off like a sense of power.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: So for an interview wear a red tie.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, red tie.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't think I've ever paid, wear a red tie.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, red tie.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever paid attention to a red tie on a suit, but I get it in an interview setting.
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, okay.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: So, with those colors being in mind.
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: And tops we're talking about tops.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of like a button-up shirt that you're wearing today.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of men would throw a wife beater underneath there.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: What's the substitute for that?
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: Right, because what there's?
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: I've seen so many men do this I'm only about to laugh because the substitute is don't wear one period at all I don't think that they're flattering in general for us men because it gives off.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: There's always been this image, I think, with wife beaters, where, just like I think of, like my dad, that like comes home from work, it's sweaty, it's dirty, it's never crisp and white, um, and it kind of hugs you and maybe not the most flattering areas if you're not like exercising, which is fine, um, and I also think, under a dress shirt, it just looks weird.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: I always think about, uh, weddings sometimes, where, like guys will wear a white beater under a white shirt and, like, when you're sweating, it starts to stick to your shirt oh, so it just looks like I don't think as presentable or as polished is what I'd say so just go without it
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: without it yeah, because I just think that it's something.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's the reason is behind it, but I think it's more of a comfort level.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: But it's like no, just take it off.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot, uh, at least for me, like I feel sexier, like more masculine without one on.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even think I own one.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: I think I tossed those out a long time ago because you just realize that you don't need those.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: You don't need them Now.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, buttons, because there is a level of like.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Where do you where's appropriate for the buttons to be unbuttoned?
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Depends on the shirt.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: I would say max two.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Max, two unbuttoned.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: Unbuttoned, like today.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: You have how many?
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: One, one unbuttoned, but this is more of like a dressier shirt.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm hitting the club, we're going to take two down, or if I'm wearing a floral shirt, I'll take two down for sure.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: And I think it also depends again on the atmosphere.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: When you have one undone, it's a little bit more refined or polished, whereas, like if it that, depending on where you're at or who you're with, I see, okay, but any.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: Anytime.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: You know, if the unbuttoning is going down to the middle of the chest like it's obnoxious, I don't care how good your body is, I don't care what you're.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: If you look like David Beckham, it's tacky, it's very like, like run away from them.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Red flag, I would say.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: Don't do it.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Don't you know, the easy thing I think is jeans, I guess maybe slacks.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, every man should have slacks, right?
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you suggest for the box?
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: I'm big into trousers, so they're more fitted dress pants or even like a pair of chinos.
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: They're not as dressy as maybe slacks are, but they're a little bit more polished than maybe wearing jeans are.
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: Trousers go like above your knee, or those pants?
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: No, trousers go like above your knee, or those pants no, they're pants.
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, they are pants.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but trousers seem to be more fitted or tailored to your body.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, are they?
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: they sound a little more like like a casual, comfortable, but still elevated look for sure, okay, and I think brands like lululemon make really good ones where you can dress them up or down and again like jeans, casual.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: But if you want to go somewhere nicer like there, you can.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: You can still dress them up, but it's not.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have the same impact, I think at least.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now jeans, I don't care if it's a light or dark wash.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Does that?
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Is that something that they should consider Like?
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: I tend to like light washes, but that's just preference, because, as they tend to wash, you have to think about longevity.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: With clothes At least, I think about that.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Like darker washes are going to start to fade.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you have, a lighter wash.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: It's going to, I think, wear more naturally and just look better.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: I remember like being told like if you put your pants inside out, your jeans inside out and wash them, that they don't fade as quick.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: And I still don't know if that's true, but I've always just washed my pants like that.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've gotten a little bit pickier, as I've dry clean even to my jeans now oh, okay, I'm still washing mine.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: So they're going in the laundry.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: That's fine, but again I think as much as I've spent on clothes.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: I don't shop anymore really hardly, if ever, because I've invested so much time in better quality clothing.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: I think of this saying buy less but better, um, so I'd rather invest in like a good pair of jeans that I know is going to last me a long time, yes, um no, I'm the same way, like I had to learn that the hard way.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I was doing fast fashion and, oh my god, like the clothes don't last one and a half washes.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, light, uh, what is it?
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: The the light cycle delicates, but yeah, so that's important, to have those core pieces that are gonna last you a long time.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Um, belts, like I don't wear belts again as I've gotten older, one of, I think, my biggest I wouldn't say hacks or secrets that has made me feel comfortable.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: And then maybe people tend to look to me for fashion advices.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I get, I'd say, almost all of my clothes tailored, unless it already fits me from when I bought it.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: So, like this shirt, I bought it at a thrift store but most people would think I spend a lot of money, but again, I paid $5 for it and I paid to have it tailored.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: One.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: It helps me feel better because it's suited to my figure and it also helps me keep my health and weight in check because I'm like I already spent this money on all these clothes I own.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want to gain weight.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: You think I can't change?
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, I guess, was it just through working in retail that I learned you to learn your fit, what looks good on you?
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Or because you can go by your own eye, but that is not always going to work, like you had to go to a second opinion and be like does this actually look good on me?
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: I'm for sure the guy in a store that's like calling the girls.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, does this look good?
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: I think at this stage in my life I know what works well with my body and what doesn't.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: But again, because I understand my style, like I tend to be more polished, refined, more tailored looks than I would like a baggy pair of jeans or an oversized shirt, Because it's just like not my vibe.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: Have you seen the way Justin Bieber has been dressing lately?
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Justin Bieber.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: He can get away with whatever he wants.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: No, he cannot.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, he can get away with whatever he wants.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: No, he cannot, but I think it would be cool if he went back to just like younger Justin, I think he did wear a lot more not as big or baggy clothes.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Everything's baggy, everything's oversized.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a phase he's still going through it.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: And I think for me he's married to Hailey Like she's put together, and I think a lot of the times people are like why are you always dressed up or be more casual?
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: For me, when I dress up, it's less about me and more about who I'm going to be with.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: It's out of respect for that person and who I'm meeting with, even if we're just having lunch.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: I always think about if, like when you go to an interview, you're not going to be dressed in like clothes you would probably wear at home, but it's out of respect for the interviewer and the company you want to work for, when I'm having lunch or going out on a date, like the respect that I have for that woman or friend I'm meeting with.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I dress up a little bit more to show them like they may not notice or care, but I dress up for that person, to show them like, hey, a sign of respect, like I'm giving you my best.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: That's really thoughtful, you know, and that's obviously the best way to go about it, whether you're meeting a date or going on an interview, because I've had girlfriends where I remember one girl went on a date and she told me he showed up sweaty, like already sweaty, you know, like I mean so not everybody takes that consideration where it's like you really didn't shower before you went on a date.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: You didn't do that.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: You know another friend too, where he came in a suit but she could tell he hadn't like friend too, where he came in a suit but she could tell he hadn't like it was, he was out all day.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: You know, like he showed up nice, but it didn't smell clean.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: And it's again like you should have thought of that, like what are you, what are you, what are we doing here?
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely and, like you said, I think it's really about intention, like if this date or this relationship or meeting or whatever it is that you're doing when you meet with someone, is important to you, then you'll make the extra effort to give your best, regardless of like.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: You don't need to be in a suit, you don't need to be super dressed up to the nines, but just like iron your clothes, put on some deodorant, some cologne, take a shower, brush your hair right, but if you're meeting with me, definitely dress to the night absolutely don't, don't come, baggy, don't come.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Any of that come correct, no, but and then yeah, so with the, those are the bottoms shoes.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Though what are we?
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: What like are what's the shoe that a man should never wear as like their go to shoe on the daily flip?
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: flops.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I actually don't own a single pair of sandals.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: We're in Florida, though.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I mean you kind of got to wear flip flops once in a while.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: The beach.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: You wear a boat shoe.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do love the boat shoe look, yes, okay, that's true, and again, I think, when it comes to shoes, you don't need 15 pairs of shoes.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I think I have the same rotation of four or five sets of shoes and what would you say?
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Those are so I have a chelsea boot what the hell?
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: what is that?
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: a boot that just comes up to your ankle, oh okay, I've seen those.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, do you need it in like brown and black?
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Do you need it?
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I have mine just in like a camel tan brown color.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: I have a loafer.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: I have more loafers, I think, than anything.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Same thing, different tones of brown.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: A boat shoe I do have a workout, nicer sneaker that I would wear, maybe if I'm like running errands or something.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: But I'd say those are like and like a dress shoe for like when, I really need to put on a suit or dress up a little bit more.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to let you in the club if you don't have a dress shoe.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: So those are your five.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: That's all you need.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: No, I think that is.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the low first.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Definitely one dress shoe, but I would even say, get two dress shoes, that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But the brown is so important.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: A lot of men are missing that brown dress shoe and it makes your outfit.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: With the blues, I think it makes them pop more, so you already have those blues in your closet, even the blacks.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Instead of doing black on black, the brown kind of brightens it up, elevates it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: So, it's not so obvious of one color block your jean and then the same color.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, even if you do a different color, pant slacks like you don't want it to be.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like the block look anymore.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I think you got to add the style to it you know and layer it in in a way, if you can yeah, totally, and I think, like you said, brown compliments, I'd say most all colors, especially like the brighter ones.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: So if you have like something bright or a little bit louder, you can like tone it down with like a brown shoe or a brown set of pants.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Let's go with.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: For me, I know, like jewelry, okay, Jewelry on men, Like what is the basic line?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Every man should have that kind of like.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You know, it's more of an elevated like.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a man versus.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I'm a boy For sure, so definitely like none of the little plastic rubbery watches.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I hate those like a g-shock watch.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Unless you're like I don't know, a teenager, don't wear those, okay.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: But for me I think jewelry's come a long way for men, especially because I think before men didn't really wear a lot of jewelry, but now I see a lot of guys like wearing bracelets or necklaces.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Um, rings now too, especially for me.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I'm all about just simple stuff, so a watch a bracelet, maybe a necklace kind of tucked in somewhere.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: And again, depending on where I'm going, maybe I'll throw on a pinky ring, just show a little bit of flash there.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that yeah but I take for sure.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing every guy needs for sure for jewelry is just a watch, and it doesn't have to be some crazy expensive watch, but just a nice casual and or dress watch if you can get both that you can.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Now, what place would you recommend for that?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: First, for a guy who's like build remember this is.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: These are mostly the guys who don't know how to dress or don't know where to start.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe they do.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna go for that expensive watch.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: What's a good, solid watch?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: That's again a grown man versus, like you know.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I'm biased, so because I worked at Movado, I've always liked that brand.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Only because it's been around for a long time.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It's not super loud, it's recognizable, the quality is there.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's the other thing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: When you're buying these watches or anything in general, right, you want to think about.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Do I want to buy one thing that's going to last me a long time, pay a little bit more?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Or buy a bunch of cheap little things that I have to change the battery or it's not working or it doesn't wear well over time?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my God, I have seen a guy wear a watch that wasn't working.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I realize that, yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And girls.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: People notice those types of things right, yes, so it's not so much about the brand, but it's more about quality or how you take care of things too okay, now let's go to scent, because I think that that you know applying even for women, applying a scent to yourself.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: There's ways to do it and you've worked actually with scents and you've had to sell those.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: They had to teach you how to sell those right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So, like what went, and you were working where when that, when they were at nordstrom, at nordstrom.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: So they taught you like colognes and perfumes, or just colognes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Mostly just colognes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, so as a man, like what were they kind of telling you the scents that maybe were more popular, because everybody's different Totally.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Scents, I think is one of like the hardest things to figure out, because it's really based on the individual.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I might like a scent but it may not suit or fit someone else.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think one of the biggest things I learned.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I wish I remember her name.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I was at Neiman Marcus in Tampa in undergrad and this French lady that was working behind the beauty counter or whatever, was educating me on how to apply scents, because most people these days apply it on top of their clothes.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And I remember she told me she's like when you sweat, you're sweating out of your pores, not through your clothes.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So if you apply the scent on your skin, especially after, like, you shower, because your pores are more open, the scent tends to stick into your skin and it lasts longer.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I did hear that, and that's the thing, though I will say.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I always forget that part because I'm like rushing or something and I'm already.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You know, by the time I'm dressed, I'm throwing it on top of my clothes, like most nine times out of ten I'm doing that, yeah and I think people tend to at least in my experience remember scents more because it's naturally coming out of your skin, like if they hug you or xyz if you're kissing you like you can smell the scent yeah, yeah I'm also big on not having multiple scents.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think I've only had like two or three colognes in my lifetime because I found one that I felt fit me.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It used to be like this little Dior cologne that they had at Macy's.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: They stopped making it and then, as I came up a little bit, I started buying nicer ones.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So I buy, like at Neiman Marcus, the same one and it's a scent that I get compliments on all the time.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It's unique and it's to me not super loud, it's not like very floral-y either.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: It's like the scent I always wanted.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Like when I walk by people would be like, hmm, that smells good, but like it's not like a lingering scent or like super loud, like some Axe spray type of thing.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, no Axe spray.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: That literally needs to be banned.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Don't do it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It needs to be banned okay, I'm honestly surprised they're still in business.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and they are, and they're doing well I was going to say they're kind of thriving, they're thriving?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: yeah, I'm hoping it's just because the teen boys are buying it up and they don't know any better.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Like for me, I think that how is it with cologne?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: As far as, like, how many sprays should a guy really be spraying, though, when he gets out the shower?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: If he does it correctly, if he does it out the shower, has to do it on top of the clothes.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: What are we talking?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And where is it?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: A you know back of the neck?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: What, where?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: for me I'd say like two to three.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So I tend to put on my neck somewhere, like on my um arm on your wrist, on my wrist, you want to put it like where you're gonna sweat a lot um, and then sometimes just like along my chest and that's really it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Any more than that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: You're doing too much yeah and again, I'm not doing like a big spray, it'll be like a.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I'm barely pressing the thing to.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And again because the scents I have.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I had to be educated on scents because there's different types of colognes.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Some are more water-based, oil-based.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The water-based ones tend to be cheaper but they don't last as long.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So I've invested in oil-based ones because they last longer.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So, and oil-based ones because they last longer, so I mean I can wear it during and early in the day and then it's still carrying me through the rest of the day.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: If you're like on the go or you're working and then transitioning to like a date, you're meeting up with your friends, you don't have to be like dang, I smell, or like the scent's gone away yeah, I know, because that's the thing too.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I think you also get like nose blind to it yourself.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You might even still smell like it, but I I always feel like I don't.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So I will reapply like I don't care.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I I'm definitely not listening to your two or three, but I think as women it's like you, you want to smell nice, you want to like, have that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: When you walk by, that scent follow you, um, but I think it for men it doesn't apply the same way no less is more, less is more yes and um, there was something else I wanted to ask you, though, and now it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Now I'm drawing a blank, but as far as like, yeah, so with fashion we covered the.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to tell you.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so, when you're picking out your style and you said that you would also call some of the girls, right, and ask them, like, what they thought of it I thought that was such a great idea, because when you're figuring it out, you don't know, when you're figuring it out, you don't know I would say call your sister, if you have one, call a friend, any female friend, facetime them and have them really, like, critique your outfit before you buy it, right, like when you're out shopping, or take someone with you to do that.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I think that that would be really good because, again, when you do things on your own, a lot of men, I know, don't know what they're doing, and that's okay, but they need that guidance and a woman's eye too, right?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and the honesty.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I mean your boys are gonna be like, yeah, it looks fly, but I got to be like maybe not.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna need to go up a size, but you know, or something like that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: But, um, I really like that and okay.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So, uh, this one girl pointed out.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: She goes when you're trying to figure out what your style is or what would look bad, what colors would look good on you, she's like, uh, you should, uh look up someone that you think looks like you, that's like a celebrity, right, that looks like you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: She's like follow what they're doing just because, like they they'll, they have a, a team, you know that pick out the right colors for their skin tone, like we talked about that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: That, um, you know, know how to coordinate things that dress them, if they, if you like, how they dress, and to kind of mirror that and if the same body type, things like that, which I was like, oh, that's really smart, you know that does make sense.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say I've mirrored a lot of my fashion after my mentors that have, like, been really successful and done a lot, and because I look up to them and want to be like them.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: At some point in my life I've always looked to see like how they're dressing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So even early on I remember in high school going to like these super ritzy country clubs and I'm like what are you wearing to these things?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: What would you wear to them?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just would watch my mentors.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: They'd wear like walking in with, like an Air Jordan sneaker, yeah, or like a big Gucci shirt, even if they have the means to do it Right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So for me, like you said, rather than maybe look at a celebrity, I'm looking at like these big business people that have been in my life and mirroring what they're doing, because I'm like, okay, this is what they're wearing, so I'm going to mirror it in some way too I love that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's so true.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good like start.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: This is a starter episode on how to dress for men, you know, because there's so much more we could get into, but I do think that, like, the basics are important, the solid pieces, the tailoring, oh, and I do think every man needs one tailored suit, one tailor.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I think all suits should be tailored well, okay, yeah, yeah, you're right, you want them fitted to your body.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Like you don't want a baggy suit, and I think I don't care what guy you ask, regardless if they're into fashion or not.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Like we all want to feel our best when we're in something right, I can't think of a guy that wants to look sloppy out in public never, so if you buy a suit, like, take the time to let someone fit it to your body frame so it suits you and it looks good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And I always think of that cheesy saying like when you uh look good you feel, or when you feel good you look no, when you look good, you feel good.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so, like when your clothes is together, you're like, okay, I can conquer the world, I can uh have success on this date, or I can close this business deal or really get the introduction that I need to with this certain individual I want to meet with, and it takes that kind of like stress off of it I agree.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Listen, these are your basics guys share with your friends.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Um, make sure you call the girls when you're getting outfits, when you're out getting outfits.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Jesus, you really have to be broken it down so nicely for the men.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I thank you for that, because I know that's really is I.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I admire the way that you dress, the way that you carry yourself, the reason behind the, the, the outfit choices that you choose, and just the way everything from your jewelry to even your glasses are sleek and nice.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you always keep your hair done really well.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that so yeah, so I thought it was important for men to kind of get a guideline to that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So, thank you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: This is Brunch with Brittany.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's for the girls and it's for the guys too.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: My guest with me today is Jesus, a longtime friend of mine, who has so much expertise, and I thank you so much for joining me, of course.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: This was fun.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: We'll have to do it again.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, we will For sure, we are out.
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