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  Speaker 1: It's the bold reform it tonight, have we got a
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  Speaker 1: show for you the artist identifying as Aboriginal who convinced
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  Speaker 1: the Arbanies the government to cancel a gold mine this
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  Speaker 1: week because of an aborageal sacred sight that the local
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  Speaker 1: traditional owners say isn't really one.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I'm going to read from her submission and receiving
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  Speaker 2: and let you decide is this government crazy? Also tonight,
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  Speaker 2: and Jim mister Chris Bowen has just had another green
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  Speaker 2: scheme blow up in his face after promising millions this
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  Speaker 2: Firth green flop in just the month. And Australia for
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  Speaker 2: the first time doesn't have a single international tanker or
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  Speaker 2: freight to supplies in a blockade. How much danger are
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  Speaker 2: we in? I'll talk to an expert. And so much
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  Speaker 2: more tonight, including the most idiotic abc AT attack on
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  Speaker 2: Sky News last night, and I tell you that's saying something.
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  Speaker 2: But first, the Albaneza government's visa scandal is no longer
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  Speaker 2: just about the governments incompetence. It's now also about its
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  Speaker 2: honesty or dishonesty and its lack of frankness with voters.
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  Speaker 2: That's because what we saw from the Prime Minister today
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  Speaker 2: was exactly the same disastrous political strategy we saw last
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  Speaker 2: year when he was trying to sell the Stralians the
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  Speaker 2: voices planned for an average, lonely advisory Parliament goes like this,
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  Speaker 2: tell the voters nothing. If you're asked the direct question,
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  Speaker 2: don't answer it, stall treat voters like idiots. Now. That
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  Speaker 2: strategy killed the government last year and will kill the
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  Speaker 2: government now and possibly this time for good. Today Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Albanezi was asked five times a simple question about the
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine hundred visitor visas his government gave to Palestinians
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  Speaker 2: from the terrorists run Garza Enclave without any interviews and
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  Speaker 2: few checks, even letting in people who said they were
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  Speaker 2: supporters of the band banned Hamas terrorist group. Now Department
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  Speaker 2: of Home Affairs started released last week show twenty three
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  Speaker 2: of those visited visas were out of cancel for reasons
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  Speaker 2: we don't know, and today Albanizy is sure wasn't admitting anything.
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  Speaker 3: How many have had their visas canceled since the horrific
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  Speaker 3: attack on Israel on October seven last year.
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  Speaker 4: AMAS did not take control of Gaza on October seven.
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  Speaker 4: They took control almost two decades ago, and in that
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  Speaker 4: time have refused to have any elections or any democratic
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  Speaker 4: process or to engage with the people of Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, even in that deflection that history lesson, the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister was fudging again. Let me just divert themselfs
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  Speaker 2: Ha mass was actually voted into by Palestinians. In a
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  Speaker 2: poll last month by the Palestinian BuzAr University, fifty two
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  Speaker 2: percent of the population of Gaza still wanted a muster
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  Speaker 2: to stay in power. So I think Albanezi and that
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  Speaker 2: answer shows is clueless about the danger. Absolutely clueless. But
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  Speaker 2: back to my main point. The Prime Minister not telling
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  Speaker 2: you even how many of the visas is given to
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  Speaker 2: Palestinians from that terris enclave have had to be canceled.
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  Speaker 2: Five times is usked that directly and five times are
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  Speaker 2: refused to give an answer. Once he even babbled on
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  Speaker 2: about Ukrainians instead, as if somehow they're now the security worry.
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  Speaker 3: To how many of the twenty nine hundred visas of
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  Speaker 3: people on shore from Gaza have been canceled?
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  Speaker 4: But I am asked about visitor versus and I can
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  Speaker 4: tell because of the financial year issue, visit versus for
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  Speaker 4: Ukrainians was niney twenty seven between twenty eight the fourth
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  Speaker 4: of February twenty twenty two and thirty twenty twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: I won't play all the exchanges. The premise is just
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  Speaker 2: insulting your intelligence. Nor would he say why he hadn't
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  Speaker 2: insisted these refugees that we took in weren't first interviewed
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  Speaker 2: in Egypt before coming here. I mean that's what Canada
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  Speaker 2: did with the ones it took. Why weren't they interviewed
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  Speaker 2: saying Jordan, which the previous Australian government did with refugees
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  Speaker 2: from Afghanistan. Wouldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 1: So?
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  Speaker 2: No, this is no longer simply about the Albaneze governments
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  Speaker 2: incompetence bringing people from a terrorist territory without even interviews
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  Speaker 2: to check who they are bringing in people, even if
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  Speaker 2: they said they supported Hamas. This is now also about
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  Speaker 2: this government's honesty, about its refusal to tell voters where
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  Speaker 2: they deserve to know about their country's safety. Now to
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  Speaker 2: the extraordinary story I covered last night, Federal Environment Miss
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  Speaker 2: Tenia Plivarsek banning a tailingsdam of a new South Wales
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  Speaker 2: gold mine, essentially killing off the whole project. And it's
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  Speaker 2: more than eight hundred jobs. This has now got even
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  Speaker 2: more bizarre because I've actually tracked down the woman who
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  Speaker 2: helped convince Plivacik to do this, and well, you judge,
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  Speaker 2: Plivasek essentially canceled this dam killing this mine because she
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  Speaker 2: said it was on the site of secret Aboriginal business,
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  Speaker 2: although there's no obvious evidence to see there the landmarks,
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  Speaker 2: and even though the traditional landowners there at Orange said
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  Speaker 2: they had no problem with the mine going ahead. Nothing
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  Speaker 2: too special about the site, they said. So you've got
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  Speaker 2: to ask, who then are these Aborigines to say, well,
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  Speaker 2: actually there are song lines there, or who say it's
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  Speaker 2: an important initiation site sacred. Oh well, I looked. They
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  Speaker 2: are from another a group of people identifying as were agery.
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  Speaker 2: And the one who actually put in the formal objection
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  Speaker 2: to this mine under the Aboriginal torrest Rate Islander Heritage
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  Speaker 2: Protection Act is this woman, artist Nairie Reynolds, who identifies
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  Speaker 2: as Aboriginal and has won prizes for Aboriginal artists. Now
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  Speaker 2: I've read her objection to this mine. Let me quote
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  Speaker 2: from it. She says, many dreaming stories follow the path
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  Speaker 2: of the local river, and no one has the right
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  Speaker 2: to destroy this no one this river sustains life. It
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  Speaker 2: will not sustain life if the headwaters are poisoned. The
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  Speaker 2: ancestors who are leaving will turn around and come back.
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  Speaker 2: Should this land be saved to the ravages of mining, right, well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, no one is poisoning this river. That
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  Speaker 2: is not the plan. And nowhere in this objection does
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  Speaker 2: this artist who identify his aboriginal show how this river
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  Speaker 2: will be poisoned or give any proof that the site
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  Speaker 2: is sacred. Now the closest to evidence she does present
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  Speaker 2: of that is this painting she made, which she included
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  Speaker 2: actually in a formal objection. She several of her paintings
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  Speaker 2: are in it, saying the river the Bala Boolah is
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  Speaker 2: an artery through our land, as shown by this painting
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  Speaker 2: I did to be permanently displayed in the Blainey Hospital.
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  Speaker 2: A nice a little bit of advertising. And there's something curious,
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  Speaker 2: another thing that's curious about this artist who identifies as
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal and helps stop this gold mine with the government's help.
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  Speaker 2: Reynolds says in her objection to the mine. She's a
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  Speaker 2: proud wajury elder and this so obviously is in were
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  Speaker 2: edgery land. But her University of New South Wales website profile,
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  Speaker 2: so she actually belongs. She actually belongs to the Gamalaray
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  Speaker 2: language group, which is immediately north of Wereedgery Land, stretching
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  Speaker 2: into Queensland. The Aboriginal Art directory also lists her as
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  Speaker 2: Gamelera instead, and so does the Roots gallery that sells
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  Speaker 2: her work. Gam the Ray not Gregory. Now, okay, the
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  Speaker 2: retory objectors, the other ones at least can point to
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  Speaker 2: reports saying well, the gold mines are and experts they
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  Speaker 2: didn't check the site well enough for abjortal artifacts. Yet
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  Speaker 2: there's still no hard evidence publicly available to the site
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  Speaker 2: really has been sacred for a long time. There's no
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  Speaker 2: evidence of any physical artifacts of any significance that would
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  Speaker 2: be disturbed. I mean when they talk about song lines,
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  Speaker 2: it's all just in the mind, right, you don't see
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  Speaker 2: song lines yet from this objection formally lodged by this
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  Speaker 2: woman identifies as Aboriginal, the Environment Minister has now essentially
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  Speaker 2: destroyed a mine and all the jobs and all the
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  Speaker 2: taxes and all the wealth it would bring. Now, Tania
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  Speaker 2: Plibusk really does have evidence to justify this economic vandalism
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  Speaker 2: that are presented. But right now this looks to me
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  Speaker 2: as dodgy as all get out and just one more
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  Speaker 2: sign of the intellectual rot of the Albanyzie government. Join
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  Speaker 2: me every Tuesday is National Senator Mat Canavan and former
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  Speaker 2: Resources Minister Matt Canavan. Great to see you again. Can
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  Speaker 2: you explain, please, how the Albanizi government could blow up
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  Speaker 2: a gold marn on such thin evidence, evidence not even
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  Speaker 2: backed by the local land council.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I can't, Andrew, and I don't think any reasonable
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  Speaker 5: person could. That's remarkable evidence that you have uncovered. Congratulations
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  Speaker 5: to you for it. I think this has taken what
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  Speaker 5: was already an inexplicable decision to a scandalous one because
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  Speaker 5: if this is the grounds upon which the decision has
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  Speaker 5: been made, there is no way that this could be
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  Speaker 5: a proper and due, natural, naturally just process. I think
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  Speaker 5: the mine owners themselves might have a very strong case
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  Speaker 5: against the Australian government, and so I mean that there
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  Speaker 5: is a procedural issue here now I think legal issue
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  Speaker 5: that you've uncovered that needs to be gotten to the
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  Speaker 5: bottom of. There is also, of course, the way and
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  Speaker 5: the treatment that this government has meted out to the
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  Speaker 5: local Aboriginal people in the Orange area. The local Land
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  Speaker 5: Council supports the mind and no one from the Labor
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  Speaker 5: government has been able to say why they have ignored
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  Speaker 5: that view of a group, a collective of Aboriginal people
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  Speaker 5: and seemingly taken the view of other people objecting to it,
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  Speaker 5: maybe just even one person, as you've outlined, no one's
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  Speaker 5: been able to explain that. I mean, this is from
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  Speaker 5: the government that said they wanted an Aboriginal voice. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you know they actually wanted to hear from Aboriginal voices.
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  Speaker 5: But here we have a clear example of them just
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  Speaker 5: picking and choosing which voices they want to listen to
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  Speaker 5: and then doing so completely dividing unnecessarily dividing a local
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  Speaker 5: Aboriginal community. And then on top of all that, Andrew,
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  Speaker 5: we've got the wider national economic issues here as well,
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  Speaker 5: where we are facing a fragile economy, a plummeting iron
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  Speaker 5: ore price by still a surgeon goal price thankfully get
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  Speaker 5: the government knocks back a major investment that it could
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  Speaker 5: employ eight hundred people. What is going on and where
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  Speaker 5: are this government's economic priorities. The priority should be helping
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  Speaker 5: out Australian families to keep a job, increasing their productivity
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  Speaker 5: of our economy so we can tamp down inflation get
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  Speaker 5: the government seems to be doing the complete opposite across
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  Speaker 5: a range of areas, including this one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I must emphasise again that some other wrajury also
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  Speaker 2: objected to the mind they might. I think they gave
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  Speaker 2: oral evidence, so I'm yet to see what they actually said.
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  Speaker 2: But you're talking about throwing the economy to the wolves,
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  Speaker 2: actually to its twin gods. You know, one of them's
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  Speaker 2: Aboriginal heritage. The other, of course is global warming. Energy
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  Speaker 2: Minister Chris Bowen. We've talked about him a lot of
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  Speaker 2: many times. This is really good. He has already had
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  Speaker 2: two of his global warming skins flow up in his face.
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  Speaker 2: Is just the past month Matt He backed Green HydroD
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  Speaker 2: We talked about that, only to have Australia's biggest investor
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  Speaker 2: in Green Hydrogen back office it was too expensive. It
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  Speaker 2: then backed sun Drive, saying this Sydney company could build
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  Speaker 2: solar panels a year, only to have the company sack
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  Speaker 2: staff just two weeks ago and said it was changing direction.
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  Speaker 2: And our third embarrassment. Earlier this month, Chris Bone announced
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  Speaker 2: a new deal with Ampoll.
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  Speaker 4: It's money that we're announcing today we'll support am pole
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  Speaker 4: enrolling out two hundred new charges by twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 4: and this is key.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good, but just two weeks later now Ampol says no,
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  Speaker 2: it's not actually possible to do that. Not possible to
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  Speaker 2: expand the number of charging bays from ninety two to
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  Speaker 2: three hundred by the end of this year because of
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  Speaker 2: difficulties connecting charges to the grid. Matcanavan, how many embarrassments
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  Speaker 2: before Crisbone resigns in disgrace?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it should be three strikes are out, shouldn't it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you've listed three there, but there are a
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  Speaker 5: few others as well as the two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 5: five dollars cut electricity prices. He's probably well up, but
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  Speaker 5: already shouldn't be batting before for Australia anymore. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the guys are walking bizarre. So let's face at almost
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  Speaker 5: every ministerial position he's touched, he's been a complete failure
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  Speaker 5: in and this is just the latest example. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: can we just return to a world where the customer
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  Speaker 5: is always right? We have a situation right now where
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  Speaker 5: large businesses, governments, in the case of this Minister Chris
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  Speaker 5: Bowen want to tell everybody else what they should buy,
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  Speaker 5: whether it's electric cars, whether it's green energy they want
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  Speaker 5: to tell us where it's hydrogen, whether they want to
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  Speaker 5: tell us what we should buy. Why don't we just
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  Speaker 5: let the Australian individual consumer make up their own mind.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to buy electric car, good luck to you.
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  Speaker 5: And if enough people buy them, I'm sure commercial companies
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  Speaker 5: will install electric charges to service the people who want
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  Speaker 5: to charge or their own electric cars. But if there's
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  Speaker 5: not enough, well they won't happen. I mean, we do
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  Speaker 5: not need them and to be looking over our shoulders
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  Speaker 5: here and deciding for us what car we should drive,
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  Speaker 5: what energy we should use, and we're even saying what
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  Speaker 5: we should say online. Let's get them out of our lives.
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  Speaker 5: That's the best way to return to a prosperous economy
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  Speaker 5: and maintain our free and open society too.
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  Speaker 2: Matt, I'm just about out of time, really, but I
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  Speaker 2: need to ask you this because this is the way
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  Speaker 2: the context of where this sort of idiocy leads us to.
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  Speaker 2: We've got China slowing, we've got ourn oil prices falling
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  Speaker 2: through the floor, and we really depend on our mineral exports, etc.
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  Speaker 2: But now Blue Scope Steel its profits have been cut
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  Speaker 2: because power costs here are three times more than the
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  Speaker 2: competition overseas, thanks to God warming policies, among other things,
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  Speaker 2: meaning China can make steel cheaper and steal our markets.
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  Speaker 2: This is so ominous, Matt.
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  Speaker 5: It's very concerning because again we're installing renewable energy at
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  Speaker 5: a faster rate than anywhere in the world. We're told
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  Speaker 5: renewal bleenergy is the cheapest form of power. If that
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  Speaker 5: is the case, why is Bluescope paying double for its
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  Speaker 5: electricity than it does in the US. It has operations
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  Speaker 5: in the US double for electricity and three times it's
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  Speaker 5: paying three times the price for its gas. If renewallanergy
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  Speaker 5: is so cheap, why is it having to suffer through
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  Speaker 5: those costs. The US is following a different route. They
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  Speaker 5: produced a record amount of oil last year, a record amount.
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  Speaker 5: No country has ever produced as much oil in one
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  Speaker 5: year as the US did last year. We're just mugs
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  Speaker 5: for going along with this, where when almost all the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the world, including Joe Biden led at the
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  Speaker 5: United States, is not, and we're losing our jobs because
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  Speaker 5: of it.
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  Speaker 2: And look, if China really does go down the gurglar,
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  Speaker 2: this country is going to get the biggest recession in
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  Speaker 2: our lifetimes. Mac kennavan, thank you so much for your time. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: day one of the Democrat Convention today, our time sure
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  Speaker 2: was awkward. The US President Joe Biden a few hours
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  Speaker 2: ago was introduced by his daughter on stage, and he
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  Speaker 2: spoke at the convention that is now going to nominate
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and not Joe Biden as its candidate in
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  Speaker 2: the November election against Donald Trump. Now, Buden, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: was forced out for being too old and making the
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  Speaker 2: kind of stumbles well like this one from his speech
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  Speaker 2: just today's.
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  Speaker 6: Decision over turning Robie Wade. Had you heard earlier tonight,
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  Speaker 6: the United States Supreme Court majority wrote the following quote,
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  Speaker 6: women are not without electrical were not allowed not without electoral, electoral.
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  Speaker 2: Or political power. So the crowd naturally was very grateful
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  Speaker 2: to Buden for giving way to Harris, his vice president instead.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Joe, They chanted. It's no wonder
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  Speaker 2: then that Buden sounded almost angry as he yelled through
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  Speaker 2: a list of his achievements as president, and specifically this one.
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  Speaker 6: Record high stock market record, high forward case waits up,
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  Speaker 6: inflation down, way down, and continuing to go down.
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  Speaker 2: Now. The trouble with that boast is that Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 2: Buden's vice prison through all that, is now running away
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  Speaker 2: from that boast about inflation, trying hard to distance herself
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  Speaker 2: from him because she wants to tap into vote her
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  Speaker 2: anger at the rising cost of living.
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  Speaker 7: A love of bread cost fifty percent more today than
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  Speaker 7: it did before the pandemic. Ground beef is up almost
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  Speaker 7: fifty Prices for everyday things like groceries are still too high.
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  Speaker 2: You know it and I know it, so real clash
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  Speaker 2: of messaging. There Joining me is Sean Spicer, who was
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  Speaker 2: the first White House spokesman of President Donald Trump. Jean Spicer,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us the Democrat Convention. What does Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris need to happen over these four days?
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  Speaker 8: I think it's actually pretty simple. I mean, most Americans,
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  Speaker 8: including most Democrats, don't know much about her at all.
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  Speaker 8: Those people who watch your show or my show who
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  Speaker 8: are engaged in politics, I think have an understanding of
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  Speaker 8: her and what she has not done in her role.
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  Speaker 8: But for most Americans, she's a blank slate. And so
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  Speaker 8: if you're planning the DNC right now, your goal is
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  Speaker 8: to make people believe that she is something that she
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  Speaker 8: is not, which is somebody who's fighting hard for the
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  Speaker 8: American people. That she's not as extreme on the left
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  Speaker 8: as her record suggests. So, I mean, in a nutshell,
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  Speaker 8: I think part of this is to present somebody who
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  Speaker 8: is much more likable and palatable to the American voter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you say, because I noticed Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 2: has been leading Donald Trump in national polls. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she really has improved the vote since she took over
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  Speaker 2: from Joe Biden. But in the past week, I see
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  Speaker 2: from Nate Silver's excellent blog that Trump's vote is coming
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  Speaker 2: back in many of the battleground states he needs to win,
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  Speaker 2: and that seems to coincide with Kamala Harris finally unveiling
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  Speaker 2: a couple of policies that are quite left wing, quite controversial,
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  Speaker 2: like price controls on food. I mean, who's the argust
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  Speaker 2: of that kind of thing? Here? She is last Friday,
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  Speaker 2: Sean promising a crackdown on price gouging or she called
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  Speaker 2: it price gauging, apparently not knowing what the heck she's
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  Speaker 2: talking about, which is actually when you look at the
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  Speaker 2: details price fixing issues.
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  Speaker 7: I will work to pass the first ever federal ban
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  Speaker 7: on price gauging on food.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is how Trump could beat Harris, but folk
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  Speaker 2: using on a record and particularly her policies, instead of
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  Speaker 2: these personal attacks.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, a
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  Speaker 8: he's got a great record to contrast with her, what
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  Speaker 8: was happening in this country during his tenure and the
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  Speaker 8: result of his policies. But I think there are two
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  Speaker 8: important things about the comment that she just made. Number One, Andrew,
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  Speaker 8: she is the vice president right now. They call it
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: the Biden Harris administration because they're supposedly partners. So it
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: begs the question, why haven't you done it yet? I
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: think that's and if she were to engage with the press,
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: which she doesn't, I would hope that that question would
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: come up. I mean that, to me is the simplest thing.
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: The second thing that I find fascinating about this, and
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: believe me, there's a lot more, but these are just
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: the top two. The second thing, though, is this is
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: like an arsonist trying to take credit for putting out
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: a fire that they started. It was their policy that
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: created inflation throughout this country, that drove the cost of
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: living through the roof for so many people on essential
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: things like food, bacon and eggs and milk and things
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: like that, the essentials They went through the roof. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: now she's talking about, well, we need to have price gauging, gouging,
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: whatever she wants to call it. The reality is, how
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: about we just stopped the bad policies that are creating
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: these inflationary tools that are wreaking havoc on our economy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: But it is unbelievable that she gets away with this
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: because you have to say to yourself, why are you
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: waiting till day one when you're literally your office is
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: in the West wing of the White House. Why have
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: you not done it? Where is the partnership you've championed
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: Joe Biden in his policies? Right, she keeps talking about
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: how great bi nomics is. Well, if it's that great,
• 21:52
  Speaker 8: then why isn't it doing what it's supposed to be doing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: Why do we need a new day one when you've
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: been there for what three years?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting, you say in a press scrutiny again
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: at Kamala Harris, which has been there now a month,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: has not given as Canada that is Democrat candidate. She
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: hasn't given a single press conference or an interview with
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a journalist in all that time. But she and her
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: very weird running mate, Governor Tim Walltz, very much left wing,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: incredibly so they've responded to this criticism, Sean by interviewing
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: each other, which with hard questions like this, like, I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: have white gay tacos, and what is that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Like mayonnaise in tuna?
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: What are you doing?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Pretty much ground beef and cheese.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: That's okay?
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: Do you put any flavoring it?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I know, here's the deal. No, they said to be
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: careful and let her know this that black pepper is
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the top of the spice level in Minnesota. Sean, How
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: long can they get away with this?
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: First of all, I find that like kind of cringy
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: and disgusting. I mean, I've I'm fifty two, I've been
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: a white guy my whole life, and I didn't know
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: there were white guy tacos, So I feel like I've
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: left out of a whole food category. But secondly, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: find this kind of just odd. They talk about the
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: fact that they will sit down at the appropriate time,
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: but they have time to make these videos. The weird
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: part about this is I actually think that these things
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: do them more harm than if they actually sat down
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: and talked policy, because people watch the videos like that
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: and go, yeah, you guys are weird.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Apparently, if you want to be a volunteer on the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris campaign, you have to nominate your pronouns from
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: a list that I've got. I think about nine different options,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: not just he and her and they and all that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but weird ones that I haven't heard of,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: G and Z and I kind of pronounce all these ones,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: nine different ones, including ones indicating that, for instance, your
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: gender fluid, but not not including men at all. It's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: just crazy. What does this suggest to you?
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, the funny thing is these are the
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: folks that use the moniker weird to describe Trump advanced.
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: And to your point, I saw that same list Andrew,
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: outside of he and him, she and her and they
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: and them, which, again, how ridiculous is it that you're
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: calling a singular person they. That sounds more like they
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: need they need help from some kind of personality disorder
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: more than anything else. I didn't know the other ones, though,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: I'm with you. I was kind of looking down that list,
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: go and I can't pronounce them, never mind understand them.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: But it just goes to show that I was I
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: was like, okay, either.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I had to look them up to actually go and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: looked them up. Apparently I'm going to help you out
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that who who who who means you're human focus? But
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought, Look, I don't get it either.
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: Shall by the way, they want to get the word
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: weird when you have to say that you have a
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: pronoun that means your human focused. I mean, honest to God,
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: what is going on here where we're sitting here saying
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: you're human focused? I think again that that's a problem.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: Who were you? What would be the alternative that you're
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: you're is like a bestiality thing. I don't I don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: understand the idea that we're catering to. That really speaks
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: to where we are politically speaking, where they are, and
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: the idea that they get away with calling other people
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: weird to me is kind of nuts.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Sean Spice to thank you so much indeed for your time.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: That andersy.
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: Next week.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: After the break, another broken promise from the Albaniza government,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and this one could really hurt us if China turns
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the screws because guess how many ships of our own
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: we now have to bring in petrol or cargo in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a crisis. Now, the Abdi's government has quietly broken another
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: promise that you've probably never even heard heard of, but
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: one that could really hurt us, especially if China does
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: go to war and cut our sea lanes. Labor promised
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: before the election to make sure Australia has at least
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: twelve Australian flag merchant ships, cargo ships, tankers that kind
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of thing for international shipping, so they can be used
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: by the government in a crisis like you know, war
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: with China, so they could say, bring in petrol and
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: medical supplies that we don't make here now. We had
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: only four such ships left back then. Now we don't
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: have even that. Joining me is shipping expert Neil Baird,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: who publishes Bird Maritime Publications. Neil Bird, thank you so
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: much for your time. You've written a brilliant thing warning
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: about all this in an article some time ago. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: where are we now? We did do have half a
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: dozen cargo ships going between Tasmani and the mainland, But
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: how many Australian flag ships do we have left for
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: international freight?
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: Well, we've actually had no internetational freight ships at all.
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: The only ships we have operating internationally now are a
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: couple of very small cruise ships which are owned by
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: the NRAMA.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Well cruise ships, that's going to be a great help transporting,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: say petrol.
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: How they carried.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: No exactly we had one hundred such ships. What a
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: few decades ago? None now? What happened?
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: Well, basically the problem is Australian shipping has become a
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: no go area for investors, particularly experienced shipowners. No shipowner
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: in his right mind will invest in Australian coastal shipping
• 27:47
  Speaker 9: apart from Tasmania, and certainly not for international shipping, and
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: many have looked at it. I've talked with many shipowners
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: around the world. Some of them were very enthusiastic to Australia,
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: but with the record of hyper destructive MUA, they won't
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: take the risk.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: The MUA being the very Marxist the Maritime Union. I've
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: seen estimates that operating an Australian ship on Australian conditions,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Australian wages, Australian everything, is going to cost you seven
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: or eight nine million dollars more so that's obviously a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: deal breaker. But what's the danger then if we don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: have our own maritime navy. I mean, can't we just
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: in times of crisis? How are ships from overseas a
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: bit like Ukraine's done.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: Well, that's essentially what we do Andrew, but it's difficult
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: in an extreme crisis. But even in the Second World
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: War when at the start of the war we had
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: hundreds of ships, or well over one hundred ships and
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: they weren't used all that effectively in Australia again because
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: of the MUA Maritime uan UNIF Australia and its predecessors
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: they were treason as destructive, economically suicidal, and they really
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: haven't improved in eighty odd years.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, I remember them refusing, if I think, to load
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: supplies for our soldiers, and that is in World War Two.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, you know, in a time of
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: crisis where there's a naval blockade or something like that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: of Australia, we're so dependent on petrol supplies, we could
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: be literally brought to our knees or our economy brought
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to its knees within a month or two if we
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: don't have the ships to circumvent that. What was the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Albanezy government going to do about it, said, we'll make
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: sure there's twelve ships. Now we've got none. What was
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: it going to do and would it have worked?
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: Well?
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: They were going to do what several labor governments have
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: done over the years. It started with the Billy Hughes
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: government during the First World War and they created the
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: Commonwealth line of steamers, which was subsequently liquidated in about
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: nineteen twenty six, completely bankrupt and mostly obsolete. None used
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: the Second World War. For a lot of the important
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: carriage of our goods. During the war, we relied on
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: Dutch ships crewed by Asians. Our people, our wonderful heroes
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: of the MUA, were really more obstructive than anything else.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So this government was going to actually subsidize ship owners,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: pour millions into his ship to bring them up to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: strength conditions. But how would that have gone? How would
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that have worked?
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: Well, it can't work. It would be a complete ripoff
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: of the Australian taxpayer. And it just gives the maritime
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: unions more leverage to cause more trouble. And as you
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: said at the beginning, they're Marxists, They're not really here
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: to be good patriotic Australians, and their record shows that
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: right back to the beginning.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I used to have their leader, Patty Crumlin as
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: a guest contactor my show Charming Man. But I must
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: say I thought his economic theory had been buried with
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Soviet Union, but clearly not, Neilbird, thank you so
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: much indeed for your time there you go. I mean,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I think there's no solution other than liberalize that area,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: break the MUA's stranglehold and liberate the economy, much like
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the advice for the rest of the economy after the break.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Can you believe this? Yet another Christian is dragged before
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: an Equal Opportunity Commission, and this time after refusing to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: do an acknowledgment of country talk to him. After this,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: we now have so many laws to stop people from
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: saying what they honestly think, laws to stop them from
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: challenging some of the wok ideology. I should tell you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: some of the battles I've had. In Tasmania, we had
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: a Christian bishop Drave before Tasmania's eco opportune tribunal for
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: preacher from the Bible against gay marriage. In Victori, we
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: had a couple of pastnors Dreve before a tribunal for
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: quoting from the Qoran, but in a way that made
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: their congregation laugh. And now another Christian minister has been
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: dragged before the Queensland Human Rights Commission after he refused
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to hold a welcome for country or acknowledgment for country
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: at the start of his Church and State conference in May.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: It's his explanation for doing that is what's got to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: be accused of racial vilification, humiliation. Dave Pellow joins me. Now, Dave,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Let me go back first to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the conference back in May. You refuse to do an
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: acknowledgment of country. Why not?
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: Because I'm not pagan. It's a Christian conference, and I
• 33:10
  Speaker 12: believe the welcome to country ritual or acknowledgment of country
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: is based in a pagan belief about worship of nature,
• 33:22
  Speaker 12: and the language that's usually put around it is a
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: spiritual connectedness to the land. But I mean that's classic animism.
• 33:31
  Speaker 12: Part of paganism, worshiping nature and believing that nature has
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: a spirit, rocks, places, rivers, animals, and that you're when
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: people's spirit dies or when people's body die, their spirit
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: goes back to the land. That's not something I want
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: to participate in now. In ancient Rome, when the Church
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: was very very early, it was a common cultural practice
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: to confess Caesar is Lord, and then fession of the
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: early Church that Jesus is Lord was considered politically seditious
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: in that time. It was very very dangerous thing to do.
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: But Christians did that because there was a truth claim
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: made by a pagan religion about a false God and
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: worship being given to him, and they very demonstrably wanted
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: to separate themselves from that.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: You've been reported to the Human Rights Commission in Queens
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: saying not because you refuse to do the welcome to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: country or acknowledgement of country, but because you've gave an explanation,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: much like you've just done there. You explained the difference
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: as you saw between Aboriginal traditional religion and Christianity, saying
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: they were incompatible. I actually tend to agree with you,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: But what did you say specifically? Do you think that
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: led to this complaint that you were humiliating Aborigines or
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: vilifying them.
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: I've identified in this meeting that thing like the Aboriginal
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: flag and the Aboriginal tent embassy inconfusable as separatism, as
• 35:12
  Speaker 12: wanting to be different from and set apart from everybody else.
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: And I don't think racial division has any part in
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: loving your neighbor and Christianity, and there's a lot of
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: Christian teaching about unity and even about submitting to the
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: government instead of trying to rebel and start up a
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: new state. And so the comments that I made which
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: were political, stem from religious convictions as well as a
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: love of Australia and a genuine prayer that, as our
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: new anthem lyrics say that we would be one and free.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Well, here, I'm a confused about the nature of the complaint.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know specifically what words they are complaining about.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But if your argument is that the religion that Christianity,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: is incompatible with traditional Aboriginal spirituality, how could that be
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: racially offensive When most Aborigines say they're Christian, not pagan.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: There's very few that adhere to traditional Aboriginal religion. According
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to census figures.
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: You're exactly right, Andrew, it's only two percent. Look, the
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: complaint is frivolous and trivial and fabricated. There was no
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: vilification or humiliation, and there was no comments about people.
• 36:37
  Speaker 12: A person or a group of people. The issue that
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: I'm trying to raise awareness of now is no gripe
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: with the man who complained about me. I feel compassion
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: for him. I think he's a victim of the grievance industry,
• 36:57
  Speaker 12: which is training Australians to carry a chip on their
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: shoulders and to walk around with bitterness and resentment and hostility.
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: Easily offended and taking offense is a choice. None was
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: intended and none was given. And I feel a great
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: deal of compassion for people who were in these prisons
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: of unforgiveness, which actually have no lock. They can walk
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: out of them anytime with a choice. Reconciliation will happen
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: when forgiveness is as common as apology.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Now. I don't know the identity of the person who complained,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm not asking you to name them, but can
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: you tell me what kind of person we're talking about here?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: What background is it that they find themselves into Christian
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: meeting an object to Christian preaching on this subject.
• 37:54
  Speaker 12: Look, I don't know him. I haven't met him. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: didn't see him or identify him. He wasn't the person
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: who asked the question. All I know is that he
• 38:06
  Speaker 12: says he's a Christian and that he was religiously vilified
• 38:11
  Speaker 12: by Christian doctrine. He came to a Christian church midweek
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: to hear Christian doctrine taught by Christian teachers. And so
• 38:23
  Speaker 12: he apparently identifies as Aboriginal and Christian. And that's all
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: I know about him. And yeah, he has no profile,
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: and I've deliberately chosen not to name him either, because again,
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: the problem isn't a person doing what this culture and
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: society trains them to, the problem is the grievance industry
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: that has weaponized anti discrimination laws to use as a
• 38:46
  Speaker 12: cudgel against people with unapproved opinions.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I think the whole thing is ridiculous. Whether people agree
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: with you or not, Why is it somehow against the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: law potentially for you to express an opinion on Christian
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: doctor And I think this is just crazy. D Pellow
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: all the best of you. Thank you so much. You
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: need for your time.
• 39:07
  Speaker 12: Thank you, sir.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Dave Pellow is tonight holding an online rally for free
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: speech called Defending Democracy. You can catch up with it
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in if you go to Defending Democracy one word, Defending
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Democracy dot au. After the break, the ABC's Media Watch
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: hosts says I'm wrong. I am so wrong not to
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: interview two Palasini refugees, that is found. But instead of
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: beating up the danger of bringing in Palasing refugees, shame
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: on me. Well, I tell you this clown has just
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: made a fool of himself. The ABC's Media Watch is
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: absolutely obsessed with Sky News, and it's not because of
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: particularly guilty of crimes against journalism. It wasn't us. It
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was the ABC that fell for fake claims of George
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Pelvis a pedophile, or the Trump kalude with Russia, or
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the Great Barrier reef would be dead deficited were dead
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: next to you if it's not dead already. Really no,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: it's because some of us at Sky do not follow
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the media's overwhelmingly leftist bias, and therefore we commit thought
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: crimes to the ABC. Last night Media Watch host Paul
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Barry attacked us for well, he attacked actually only some
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of us. The Sky After Dark hosts me, Peter people
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: at that. Paul over our coverage of the Albanies government's
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: visas scandal. You know how it hadn't properly checked. They
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: didn't even interview the two thousand, nine hundred Palatins from
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: terrorists controlled Hamas Gaza that had granted visitors visas. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: thought that was a big, big issue. But Paul Barry
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: was angry. He implied we were beating up the danger.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: He said, why didn't I and my colleagues of the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: nighttime comment shows interviewed some of those Palestinians that did
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: it visus to hear from them that they were no threat.
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: But looking at last week's coverage, we can't see any
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: proper interviews with Palestinian refugees in Australia on Sky after dark.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now Paul Berry meant someone like this woman he started,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: this woman who was actually from a much earlier intake
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: before this war, and was interviewed on Sky but before dark,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: so that doesn't count.
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  Speaker 13: And credit to Sky's daytime coverage for interviewing Palestinian refugee
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  Speaker 13: Mariam Dowas, a thirty two year old widow and mother
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  Speaker 13: of five, who told.
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  Speaker 11: Them I'm a successful person, I am a very like
• 41:38
  Speaker 11: I'm a very normal person and I am ready to
• 41:40
  Speaker 11: contribute to the country. All the people in Gaza are
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: very normal people. They are not terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: So Paul Berry wants asked me to take our cues
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: from someone insists that all the people in Ghaza, all
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of them are not terrorists. So what does she mean
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: that none of the men from US and none committed
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the October seven massacre of twelve hundred Israelis, none are
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: right now holding Jews hostage ten months later? Well maybe
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: she means, you know, don't treat everyone the same. But
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: how can we tell one from the other? How joinings
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the Panels Go and his host The Nikka to Georgia
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: and Damian Curry, a corporate communications consultant, former ABC employee
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: among other networks, and hosts of his own video podcasts
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the other side. Now, Denika, why exactly does Paul Barry
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: think that that comment from a refugee should have been included?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Because wouldn't the audience, you know, would that make the
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: audience better inform? The worst that one person says that
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: she's not a threat, so we've got to take her
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: word for it.
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  Speaker 14: Well, it would have made the audience, I mean, well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 14: that's it. It wouldn't have made the audience better informed, Andrew,
• 42:49
  Speaker 14: And it just feels like Paul Barry wanted Sky After
• 42:52
  Speaker 14: Dark to include that particular comment because he thinks we're
• 42:54
  Speaker 14: all so dumb so and unintelligent that our audience would
• 42:58
  Speaker 14: look at that comment and god, well, clearly there's nothing
• 43:01
  Speaker 14: to see here, labor or right, the coalition are wrong.
• 43:03
  Speaker 14: October seven was sad, but you know, we can push
• 43:06
  Speaker 14: that aside. Or because one person has told us that
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: everyone in Gaza is normal, one person everyone in Gaza
• 43:13
  Speaker 14: is normal and that.
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  Speaker 6: They're not terrorists.
• 43:17
  Speaker 14: So Paul Barry obviously thinks that Sky News should adopt
• 43:20
  Speaker 14: the same nothing to see here attitude as he does
• 43:23
  Speaker 14: on his show, and as we see so frequently over
• 43:26
  Speaker 14: at the public broadcaster. The reality is, Andrew, the facts
• 43:30
  Speaker 14: still remain, don't they. Seventy one percent of Palestinians supported
• 43:34
  Speaker 14: the October seven massacre and supported mus. We know that
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: there's been a twenty four hour turnaround for some character
• 43:41
  Speaker 14: assessments for Palestinian refugees, and not to mention that some
• 43:45
  Speaker 14: neighboring countries like Egypt and Jordan have not taken these
• 43:49
  Speaker 14: people in because of security risks. But what a shame
• 43:52
  Speaker 14: we did not see that on Paul Barry's report last night.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: None of that. No, but the finish stamien right, it's
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a straw man. I mean, Paulvert's going on like, Aha,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: if he finds one person who's going to somehow contradict
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: us that we were saying that every every refugee we
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: took in was from Hamas. We never said that as
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: We specifically didn't say that. I think I said if
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: only one or two are from Hamas. I didn't say, Oh,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: it's straw Man's stuff. What the heck's going on here?
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: Well, I think it's the ABC not understanding its own
• 44:25
  Speaker 10: irrelevance as usual. But you know, ossies are not racist, Andrew,
• 44:31
  Speaker 10: and this is the problem. The ABC doesn't understand Australian
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: people are not racist. We'd be very happy to have
• 44:36
  Speaker 10: some people come into our country, provided they're willing to
• 44:39
  Speaker 10: assimilate and integrate with our Culture's absolutely no problem with that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: We're a country built on immigrants, but immigrants who respect
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: the core culture of this country. And the problem here
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: is that Australians are smart enough to realize that, yes,
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: there might be ninety percent of Garsan refugees that are
• 44:54
  Speaker 10: lovely people just like that person that was interviewed, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: unfortunately there only has to be ten percent. That you've
• 45:00
  Speaker 10: got three hundred out of three thousand and the real
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: problem is we don't trust the government to do the screening.
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: Nobody has confidence the government's ability to actually do the screening.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Can how willful of people? It's nivable and very important argument.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: But look, in fact on that point, I'm not surprise.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: There was another interview. There was another interview that Paul
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Berry thought that I and my colleagues should have included,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: like we should simply take this refugees word that none
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: of the refugees were political, were in some way you
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: know danger None of them well, not all of them,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: she said, issues.
• 45:41
  Speaker 13: And credit to Sky's daytime coverage for interviewing Palestine refugee
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: Mariam Doas, a thirty two year old widow and mother
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: of five, who told them.
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: I'm a successful person, i am a very like I'm
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: a very normal person, and I am ready to contribute
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: to the to the country. All the people in guys
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: are the norm Latifa, there are not two is sorry that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Was the wrong one. I had one Danika of a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: woman saying, well, look, not all of us are political.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Not all of us are political. Well, this is the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: whole point. If some are political, by which we as
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: she means, hamaus well isn't that exactly the issue? Isn't
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: that exactly why we should be doing the screening.
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: Well, this is exactly why we should not only be
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: doing the screening, Andrew, but why we are questioning Labour's
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: motives in this. It is absolutely not unreasonable to ask
• 46:33
  Speaker 14: serious questions or raise serious concerns about the threat to
• 46:37
  Speaker 14: national security or the threat to our national cohesion, to
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: our social cohesion. It just proves, Andrew, exactly what we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 14: been saying is correct. And it just again shows that
• 46:48
  Speaker 14: the ABC does not like it when people challenge what
• 46:52
  Speaker 14: they perceive as being the norm or how we should react.
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: It's just ridiculous.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: This is it. It's for christ. I mean, can I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: just switch. We've got time because I'm running out here.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Federal Liberal MP Garth Hamilton commissioned research for the Parliamentary
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Library and how the sixth so called teal Independence who
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: won Liberal seats of the last election, actually voted the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Federal Parliament. Most suggested they were because you know, CenTra
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: so I'm really conservative, just worried about global warming. But
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: it's found, for instance, that three of them voted with
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: the Greens more than sixty percent of the time. Social scamps,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Carli Tink, Color You Tink and money Grin. Sally Steger
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: was a fifty eight percent, So Daniel, the former agency
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: journalists are same. Back comparison, look at the more truly
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: independent MPs, they lead forty five percent, with the Greens
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Rebecca Sharky just thirty percent.
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: Your conclusion, well, they My conclusion is that they that
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: they basically the Teals ought not being in parliament period,
• 47:52
  Speaker 10: and that they're obviously and clearly a far left, green aligned,
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: labor aligned kind of party and they're.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Not what they sold us to be.
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: But then who's surprised by the deception when the very
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: deception of whether or not they're a political party was
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: the original deception. So they're not independence, They're clearly a
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: part of a group, and that group is a left
• 48:12
  Speaker 10: wing group, and I think everybody realizes that you have
• 48:15
  Speaker 10: to be blind, Freddie not to see it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: I also think Andrew that the Liberal Party should stop worrying,
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: worrying about them and worrying about the inner city seats
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: and worrying about the ABC.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Just move on. Well, I think that's actually a very
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: important conclusion. Listen, let's have a more time next week.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: This is this is good? Dnika to Georgia Damien Kurry,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: thank you both for your time. Coming up next, Sherry
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: markson good note,