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Azzurri surprise wins in Nations League - Ep. 239 Ft. Daniel Lucci · The Calcio Guys

• 0:25
  Speaker 1: A reminder that it's Italy in the white.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Blue in the blue.
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  Speaker 1: It's scumbling away on it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's John's, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Bradley Booker wear the scunner. Hey, I've seen this one.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen this one. This is a classic. This is
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  Speaker 4: where Ralph Ross is up as a man from space.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean you've seen this? It's brand new.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen that one before. Here on the couch, you
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  Speaker 5: guys Johnny Edranda Nicholas, and we've also seen this guest before,
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  Speaker 5: Daniel Luci from all you vacast. How you guys doing.
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  Speaker 4: Child, gentlemen, don't good? Doing good after these results?
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  Speaker 6: We're doing good.
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  Speaker 4: Happy in the play Thanks.
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  Speaker 3: For having me.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard not to quote the back to the Future
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  Speaker 1: line at the end of that. I think play ahead night,
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  Speaker 1: Mike beat it so you would have heard me say,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean you've seen it before?
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  Speaker 2: It's brand new.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's what it feels like watching Italy, or having
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  Speaker 5: watched Italy Friday letting a goal thirteen seconds into that game,
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  Speaker 5: it feels like a flashback to that Euro game against Albania.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was what twenty seconds in it that
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  Speaker 5: one that was first game of the Euros. This is
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  Speaker 5: the first game of the Nations League, and just like
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  Speaker 5: in that game against Albania, Italy comes back and wins
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  Speaker 5: a surprise one against France. You know we talked about
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  Speaker 5: in the podcast last week. Guys, none of us thought
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  Speaker 5: they do it. But three to one against France, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we got to start with Luci right, give us I mean,
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  Speaker 5: first of all, are you shocked? Were you shocked about
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  Speaker 5: that win at all? And just give us your thoughts
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  Speaker 5: about the play, because it already looks like somewhat of
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  Speaker 5: a new Italy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely shocked that. I thought, at best best
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  Speaker 3: case scenarioly somehow pull out a draw. But somehow they
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  Speaker 3: put in three past Frants. I don't I don't think
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  Speaker 3: anyone saw that coming. They definitely looked a lot better
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  Speaker 3: than what we saw in the Euros. I want to know,
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  Speaker 3: like where that Furtais was during the you know, during
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  Speaker 3: the summer, because that guy was nowhere near the way
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  Speaker 3: he's been playing recently. But hey, man, back to back wins,
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  Speaker 3: I guess we'll take it, right. I can't complain some
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  Speaker 3: new faces.
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  Speaker 4: It's all good so far, so far, I think that's
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  Speaker 4: the key word so far. I think it's it's it's
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  Speaker 4: still away and see by listen, guys, I think we're
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  Speaker 4: all hyped as Italian Judie fans. I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: time to be excited. I don't think I said. We
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  Speaker 4: spoke last week on the pod, I said one point
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  Speaker 4: time about possible six is the ideal. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't think they would get it. I think they were.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna get just a win today.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I thought they would end
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  Speaker 4: up losing against France. But you know, Spotty, I think
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  Speaker 4: really one thing again we spoke about last week is
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  Speaker 4: can splightly turned the page and finally put the Euro aside.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll start fresh with this this quote unquote new
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  Speaker 4: Italy again. Like what you said, so far, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's been working, which I guess a quick question for
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  Speaker 4: you before we continue on on on our thoughts. Are you, like,
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  Speaker 4: what do you make of the you know, his approach
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  Speaker 4: so far, his system. It seems to be that he's
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  Speaker 4: he's kind of been less stubborn and being you know,
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  Speaker 4: he came from not as a coach club club being
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  Speaker 4: a club manager is different between the international manager west
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  Speaker 4: Ham to prepare with these players, so he set his
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  Speaker 4: eyes on this three five too or this this variation
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  Speaker 4: of that, and it seems to seems to be working,
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  Speaker 4: and it seems like they want to play some you know,
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  Speaker 4: offensive cultural What are your thoughts on, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: formation and just maybe his approach post Euro.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like, yeah, he did some research you know,
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  Speaker 3: after that Euro because he got embarrassed a few times,
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  Speaker 3: him and the team. You know, that's not just blame him,
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  Speaker 3: but it looks like he finally you know, went back,
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  Speaker 3: you know, took some players into consideration, got rid of
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  Speaker 3: the ones he had to and and made the right call.
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  Speaker 3: So far, I like he. I like how he's you know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to include a lot of the youth. I know
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  Speaker 3: a few guys weren't available in the summer. I understand that.
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  Speaker 3: But Ricci's looked really good from what I've seen. And
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  Speaker 3: I think if Spiletti can keep this you know, rejuvenation
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  Speaker 3: and you know, keep everyone you know tactically you know,
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  Speaker 3: on board and the going in the right direction, I
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  Speaker 3: think Italy can you know, finally turn some heads. But
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  Speaker 3: it's still early and I don't want to get my
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  Speaker 3: hopes up just yet, but you know, promising, promising so far.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like as if it's like similar to it
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  Speaker 1: Lippy had to go through. You know, like maybe mind
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  Speaker 1: you in scenario twenty ten, he had to get burnt,
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  Speaker 1: and him getting burnt kind of causted him his.
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  Speaker 2: Future with the with the AZUITI. But do you think
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  Speaker 2: that Balletti probably took a look at him.
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  Speaker 1: I would say he took that example specifically, but you
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  Speaker 1: think maybe he looked at situations in the past of
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  Speaker 1: coaches not willing to be malleable, and you think maybe
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  Speaker 1: he probably learned from there.
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  Speaker 3: I think he had to write and he like, he
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  Speaker 3: definitely got some things wrong in the summer. I think
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  Speaker 3: we all saw that, and you know, he did his
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  Speaker 3: research and I think now he has an actual idea
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  Speaker 3: of what he wants to do and what he wants
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  Speaker 3: to implement before you know, in those three four games
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  Speaker 3: during the Euros, I think it was a different starting
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  Speaker 3: eleven every game. It was a different formation pretty much
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  Speaker 3: every game. So it looks like he wants to stick
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  Speaker 3: to this and hopefully he does. And you know it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you get into the same patterns, you know,
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  Speaker 3: no matter what the players are coming in and out.
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  Speaker 3: You get the same patterns and everyone knows, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of where to being what to do. So if
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  Speaker 3: it works, it works, just just stick to it, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the formation. That's a good point because you
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  Speaker 5: think back to the Euros, he was really stuck on
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  Speaker 5: the four three three. You know, he played that obviously
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  Speaker 5: against I think he played that against All and then
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  Speaker 5: he played that against Spain. And then he comes out
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  Speaker 5: versus Croatia, so it'ses it to a three five two,
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  Speaker 5: gets the result and says, you know what, this worked.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Okay, I know we needed that. It's a
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  Speaker 5: Candia goal, but it worked. And then went back to
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  Speaker 5: the four to three to three versus Switzerland and loses
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  Speaker 5: to nothing. And then so it like you said, it
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  Speaker 5: seems like he did his research come back out in
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  Speaker 5: these games three five to two for each of them.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what I like is that there wasn't
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  Speaker 5: your typical number nine. Obviously that almost wasn't by choice
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  Speaker 5: with Skamaka being hurt. And I know Keen played today,
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  Speaker 5: but for me, he's obviously a different player than Skamaka.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that allowed Italy to be a bit
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  Speaker 5: more fluid and not have that that one central point
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  Speaker 5: where it's like, okay, we got to get the guy
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  Speaker 5: this ball, and it allowed Italy to play to pass
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  Speaker 5: around the ball. I don't know if you agree with that, Lucci.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you think the three five to
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  Speaker 5: two is with Italy should stick with moving forward, or
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  Speaker 5: if you think there's there's another formation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to say otherwise, even though it's not
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  Speaker 3: my favorite formation. You know, like we just lack we
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  Speaker 3: lack wingers, you know, good wingers, but we do have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of decent midfield. That's where our depth is
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  Speaker 3: honestly right now that in center. But like left footed
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  Speaker 3: center backs, I've never seen so many. So it seems
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  Speaker 3: to work. It seems to fit the players that you know,
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  Speaker 3: that our best players that we have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I.
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  Speaker 3: Still want to see more, you know, like we can't
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  Speaker 3: really Israel. It's a test, but it's not at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, you know, France, France of course, but even them,
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  Speaker 3: they've been struggling lately. So if it works and we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna continue this way, then you know, actually make it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, stick to it. And and to point your point, Nick,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Keen is your guy going forward, he
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  Speaker 3: might be an option off the bench. I do like
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  Speaker 3: Retaggy though he's He looked really good in the way
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  Speaker 3: he was, you know, moving against against France and moving
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  Speaker 3: around getting open the pasta Forkzy for the goal was great.
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  Speaker 3: You won't see that. You won't see that as much
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  Speaker 3: from from Skama, So they offer different things and I
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think listen, when we hadn't beat France
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  Speaker 4: in pirates in what seven years? I think it was, guys,
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  Speaker 4: since fifty four, so.
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  Speaker 5: They hadn't beat France period since y're two thousand and eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there was, and it was the first competitive match. There
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  Speaker 5: have been three friendly since, yeah, and I think it
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  Speaker 5: was twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, and Italy lost
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  Speaker 5: all three.
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  Speaker 4: So so guys, it shows, it shows, it means like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: this win. Like listen, well, we've always had a rivalry
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  Speaker 4: with the French, there's no denying that. It's no secret
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  Speaker 4: to do it in their own backyard, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: hadn't done it in seven years and has had struggles
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  Speaker 4: and being them another in other matches along the way.
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  Speaker 4: I think it means something was this is a this
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  Speaker 4: is a team that you know, even if they're even
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  Speaker 4: if they struggle, their struggle is is still far from
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  Speaker 4: ours currently unfortunately. Right, So you know this is a
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  Speaker 4: team that's that's one of uh a World Cup in
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  Speaker 4: the succession. You know, they've made a World Cup final
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  Speaker 4: in the in the recent past. So it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: really that one for me was the real test obviously
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  Speaker 4: this group we are going into it. We saw that
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be tough, uh, you know with
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  Speaker 4: France in Belgium, but listen, we got the early test
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  Speaker 4: out of the way done on the road. Speleti's first
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  Speaker 4: road win with this absolute team. So it's I think,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know it Just for me, it was a
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  Speaker 4: big surprise, and I glutally said, I'm glad that so
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  Speaker 4: far he's sticking to his idea.
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  Speaker 6: And I think the bigger.
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  Speaker 4: Thing picture to that is that you know, every the
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  Speaker 4: team and the group is buying into that. Because you're
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  Speaker 4: you can have whatever idea you want and whatever system
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  Speaker 4: you want to put in place, but if you don't
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  Speaker 4: get your your guys to buy into that and to
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  Speaker 4: and to really execute that idea that you have in
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  Speaker 4: your head and execute it on the pitch, you're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna go anywhere. So so far, so good. I think
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  Speaker 4: the next obviously international break is is coming up in October,
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  Speaker 4: so not too far way. But what because you mentioned Lucci? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and that's been.
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  Speaker 6: A big player in in the.
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  Speaker 4: Cultural social media world. Uh, these last couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: But besides him, any anybody else that's impressed you in
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  Speaker 4: this formation, you know you mentioned it at anybody else
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  Speaker 4: comes to mind?
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  Speaker 3: I did, like Retai yeah again, like DeMarco was another one.
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  Speaker 3: He had the good two games, but where was he
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  Speaker 3: in the summer. He was causing us goals more than
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: helping us score them. So like if if these guys,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's you know, the jitters of
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  Speaker 3: the you know, the big international stage. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But he looked better Cambias so I thought looked good.
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  Speaker 3: Borne journal looked good today from what I saw. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not a big Raspadori guy, but I think
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  Speaker 3: he plays his role well for a small guy, Like
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  Speaker 3: he knows where to be and in those right positions
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  Speaker 3: make the right pass. So if if he's actually going
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: to be a starter there, I don't know what they're
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  Speaker 3: playing is between him Gasa and whoever else they want
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  Speaker 3: to try in that secondary striker role. But the defense
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  Speaker 3: looks good. The midfield you've got lots of options, which
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: is good. Having tonality back is massive. That guy's a
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  Speaker 3: great player, so so that definitely helps. But so far
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  Speaker 3: it was impressive from a few guys, so hopefully we
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  Speaker 3: can keep that going.
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  Speaker 1: I think, honestly, what you mentioned about the Demonico thing,
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  Speaker 1: like where was Hedri in the summer, It's more like
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  Speaker 1: it's they're playing in positions that are actually used to
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  Speaker 1: the playing in. You know, he's playing through their strengths. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: instead of forcing them to fit into his, let's say,
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  Speaker 1: his puzzle, he's using them as the pieces that they
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  Speaker 1: are and fit into formation that kind of works for them.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of like what do you get like the
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  Speaker 1: Italy versus France game, I think probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: rare times I've seen a three five one one in
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  Speaker 1: my life, probably, Like I want to throw it back
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  Speaker 1: to all you guys, like like what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of that?
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  Speaker 2: Actually? Like what like obviously worked out?
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  Speaker 4: You know, you get threw a win out of it, but.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is not something we're used to see, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys think about it.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think it was it was a PELGRENI
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  Speaker 4: that started in in that match, and that that one
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  Speaker 4: was Yeah, i'll let you go first of what we'll
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  Speaker 4: get it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, fortunately, me and Nick sawt a bit a
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  Speaker 3: little bit with Fuve last year and it obviously didn't
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  Speaker 3: work too well for us for the most for most
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  Speaker 3: of the season. But I guess it just depends on
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  Speaker 3: the players you have at your disposal, right If some
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  Speaker 3: players are used to that, like the inter players are
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  Speaker 3: used to playing a three five two or three five
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  Speaker 3: one one, whatever you want to call it, so they're
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  Speaker 3: they're pretty comfortable with that system, and like we saw
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  Speaker 3: today and and on Friday, they're comfortable to you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing those similar positions. Maybe, like you said, Johnny de
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: Marco is not comfortable playing a left back and he
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  Speaker 3: looked out of position against in the Euros, but he
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  Speaker 3: looked a lot better these last two games. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: it does make a huge difference. And hopefully everyone else
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  Speaker 3: that you know doesn't have any other issues, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when they get slotted in it here and there, so.
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  Speaker 4: So for so good.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see it for you though, it's
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  Speaker 3: not it's not really my favorite thing going forward, so
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  Speaker 3: thank you.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, I think it works. Maybe part of me,
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  Speaker 5: you know, maybe preferred like a three typical three five
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  Speaker 5: two where you know, maybe a player like Raspadori or
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  Speaker 5: even you know what, even Retegi could kind of play
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  Speaker 5: off a number nine because they're a bit more mobile mobile.
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  Speaker 5: But if you got a guy like pel Greene and
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  Speaker 5: if you're gonna play him more in an attacking role
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  Speaker 5: versus more of a center midfield where for me, I
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  Speaker 5: think he struggles a bit more in a holding midfield
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  Speaker 5: position and we kind of saw that at the Euro So, uh,
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  Speaker 5: like I said before, I think, you know, for me,
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  Speaker 5: this is as long as they're playing fluid and and
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  Speaker 5: they understand and you're playing players in their positions like
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  Speaker 5: you guys just said, I think that goes well. And
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: you know you know what that I'm gonna jump right
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  Speaker 5: in Lucci and that brings us. I want to bring
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  Speaker 5: up Keza. I know he's not eve a player anymore
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: and he's Liverpool's Liverpool's problem and obviously he didn't play
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  Speaker 5: with the Izuri this time around because you know he
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  Speaker 5: didn't have he wasn't you know, it's game speed and
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  Speaker 5: all that, But if they're going to play a three
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  Speaker 5: five two like this, where where does he fit in?
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  Speaker 5: You know, because that was that was the exact issue
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  Speaker 5: with Juve, with the three five two with Juve that
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  Speaker 5: monts So where does he fit in in this Jodi team?
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  Speaker 3: The only way he plays if he takes that secondary,
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  Speaker 3: that second striker role, whether it's from Raswadori or or Pellegrini.
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  Speaker 3: So he didn't look that great. See, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because he's not comfortable playing
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  Speaker 3: that position. Like just like we said, Johnny, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you have certain inter players or other players comfortable in
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  Speaker 3: that position. Maybe for him, he's not comfortable in that position,
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  Speaker 3: so he misses out or you know, he finds himself
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  Speaker 3: on the bench. He didn't look very good with Juve
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  Speaker 3: in that spot. Maybe he's gonna have to learn to adapt.
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  Speaker 3: I guess if he wants to do playing with the
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Azudi or not. If not, he's gonna be he might
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  Speaker 3: be in a little bit of trouble.
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  Speaker 4: But you'll see no I wast and I think in
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  Speaker 4: terms of this the formation thing, and listen, we you
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: go on the score, you go on whatever you know,
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  Speaker 4: on gazette or whatever, and you see three five one one.
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  Speaker 4: But like Nick said, and like we we've kind of
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: all noticed that just the formation that they write down
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: it is very fluid. So it might you might say,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: it might say three five one one, but it is
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: that three five two. We can go into that three
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  Speaker 4: four two one. It really is is very food, especially
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: how I saw like our attackers really come back, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and and build up with the play, you know, and
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: go forward as a unit. So I think in the
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: very that's why I say three five two and its variations,
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  Speaker 4: because Scott Spati has shown that, you know, if it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be a a player like pel Greene and
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  Speaker 4: that type of type of role, or a gal like
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: z or what have you, I think they don't really
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: have to only stick to that. And I think he's
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: he said it in his press conferences. So if it's
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: not a three five to two slashed five one one,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: it could be that that three four two one. You
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: take out a midfielder and you put you know, a
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: Kiza and a Pelgrene behind the striker. Like there are
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: other options I think to this, And we've discussed on
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: the part before and and it's always been an idea,
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: but hopefully we kind of see that come to fruition.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: You know it's Poletti because in the three five to
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: two in just that form, I don't and we've said
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: on the show before and Lucy you know you watch
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: you a you know, week in and week out, unfortunately
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: without Kisa now, but in just a three five two
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: in that raw form, like he is at top with
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: another striker, it didn't work for you. Would it works?
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: Would it worked for the Adzuri?
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Again, I don't know.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I personally, I don't think it's It's it goes back
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: to saying, why is the Marco point right left back
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: when he's really a left wing back and he that
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: that's his position. He can get up and like go
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: up and down, up down the pitch. So I don't
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: see it working. But if you get again I'm the
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: striker with somebody else and have a kind of a
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: focal point to to to an extent of a tag
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: ya kin askamaka, whoever you want, I think I think
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: it could work. And that's kind of the only way
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I would see it fitting because we know he's he might.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Come up and and.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Go forward and come back and defend, but you know,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: his his his capability. His biggest danger, as you know
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Lucci is.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: Going forward and and creating.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: And trying to to attack and score. So the one
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: thing I wanted to ask, because it seems like, uh,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Spoletti's goal scorer is is he has what six goals?
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I think with the with the national team under under Spiletti,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: is that a worrisome thing for you? Or is that Luci?
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Or is that something that you know, what it's one
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: guy that's finding his form under a guy like Spoletti,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: because we still need to find goals from our attackers.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: How do you think?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a great thing to have, you know, depth, depth,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: scoring is always good thing to have. But you still
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: need your strikers to score. And that's where I think
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: we might be in a little bit of trouble because
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: we can't when's the last time we had a consistent
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: number nine scoring goals? Like I can't remember one. We're
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: talking early two thousands, mid two thousands, Like.
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, early tens, Yeah, exactly like Mobile
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: was you know before we can talk about his ups
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: and downs with Yazui and you know, not being consistent Skamaka.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: We have yet to see really what he's been able
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to do. He's only shown, you know, glimpses when he
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: was at Atalanta. Same with Retagi now. So hopefully someone
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: steps up and takes you know, takes the starting position
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: and actually starts scoring goals like you like seeing Retagg.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: You do the other things and you know, get assists
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: to fortas and things like that, but you also want
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: your your number nines to score, no doubt. So depending
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: if it continues to go this route, Yeah, I'm sure
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: it'd be a bit of a concern for Spoletti. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: know it would be for me, just because you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: when you're playing different comp when you're playing Spain and
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: you're playing you know, other teams, gonna be hard for
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: these midfielders to get solely involved in scoring goals when
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: they have other duties to look you know, players to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: look after. So you need your you need your strikers
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: to score. That's kind of what they're there for, right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we got a bit of that this
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: this game against Israel, right we had got Keen scoring
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that goal at least like he was playing up.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Up up front.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: But you're completely correct on the fact we need to
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: find find we need to start finding somebody who's gon
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to do it consistently, because we've had players that either
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: do good things but nothing comes out of it, like
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a tage versus players.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: That we try.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to be the prototypical number nine and they
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: don't do anything aka skamaka you know, would like that's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the thing though, like right now it seems like he's
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: found the formation that kind of works, right, But yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we need to find like how would you activate those
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: strikers in this kind of formation though it's like it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of tough. I think it's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: one of those one of those things where it's like
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you have to get everybody involved in a way, like
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not saying it's it's a bad thing.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right now that they what they have so far, like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I said, so far, things seem to be working. But
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you're correct in the sense that the strikers are meant
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to be on the pitch to beat the score those goals.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: That's their role, that's their job.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And if they're not, if they're not doing that role,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: how much secondary score can you rely on?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: You exactly how sustainable. Can it be even know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Exactly when stiffer competition, you know that secondary scoring might
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: not be might either right exactly. So the only good
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: thing I will say, though, Johnny, is that both were
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: taggy and even though Skamaka's hurt, they're both playing with Atalanta.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: So when they play a similar type of system or
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: similar type of counter you know three five or three
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: four two one or whatever Atalanta play, So it's maybe
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: you'll get a little familiarity with that and you know
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: someone will slot in and and take the spot. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to wait and see. It's it's tough.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't see, just because I've seen so
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: much a keen. I don't see him being a starter.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe unless he blows my mind or you know, Spiletti's
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: mind too. I who knows. He's still young, he's you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: maybe has a resurgence with with Fiorentina. But only time
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: will tell.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Today's game against Israel, I don't know. If you guys
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: had a chance to watch, you know, if you would
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: have told me to to one win versus Israel beforehand,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: I would have said, you know, what's what's the problem
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: is is like they scored in ninetieth ninetieth minute winter
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: or something. But you know what I I I watched
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: the game. They actually played well. I don't think the
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: score line reflects what what happened on the field. Obviously,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Israel scored late to make it to one, but Italy
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: just dominated throughout. You know, we talked about Fertesi scored
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: and Keaton scored. Final he did score a goalie it
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: was ruled off side, you know, if you look back
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: on the replay, very marginally offside. But I think overall
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: it was a good game. I think it was a
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: game that lacked energy. You could tell that not a
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: lot of people in this in the in the stands.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: This there was a game and played in Hungary. The
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: Zuri probably tired. They had to travel from Florence to
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Paris back to Florence. Then the Buddha pest and you
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: kind of saw that in the first half. Obviously for
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Tastes Square late in the first half, thirty eighth minute,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: and then Keen in the sixty second, so you know
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: the end, everything worked out for Italy. I don't know
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: if any of you guys have any thoughts on the game.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I yeah, it's definitely not as exciting as the game
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: on Friday. I did. I saw most of it. I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: missed about the last ten minutes or so. But again, Reachi,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: like I said earlier, Ricci looked good. There's a couple
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of guys that are, you know, fighting for a starting spot,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and you know, if he continues to play like that,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: he kind of deserves it. Yeah, the atmosphere was it
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was kind of rainy, and no one looked like people
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: didn't want to like the players themselves didn't want to
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: be there. So you know, you'll take the three points
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: and kind of just wrap it up and everyone goes home.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: So it is what it is. Yeah, I saw, I saw.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I mean I didn't catch it at the early beginning
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: of the game. I caught or the after that. But yeah, listen,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I think after we got such a high on the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: France game, it was only normal that that level was
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: going to kind of come back down because it's so hard.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: To keep your.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: You know, we were kind of joking beforehand, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be another snooze fest, but against a lesser opponent.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes it's hard to you kind of
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: get trapped in that in that group because you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you're on such a high with a you know, a
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: tough opponent like France and then you come and play
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Israel again, no disrespect, but it's just a lesser competition.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: It's a lesser opponent, you know, to to to what
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: it is. So I was expecting a bit of a
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: less of an antmosphere of me.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: I may be a bit would would I'd like.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: To see a bit more goals. Sure, but again we
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: hadn't scored again, I I don't remember I saw I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: saw that, I saw the stat now on on on Twitter,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: but I don't remember since when. But you know, we
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: hadn't we had we scored five goals in two matches.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: It seems like it takes Italy, you know, seven games
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to score five goals.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, just.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Seeing some goals come, even if it's not our number nine,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: if it's not you know, are you know, our attacking
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: you know players, I think it's still something to bounce
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: off of. I think the game today was good. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: think you know, they didn't my my my scirit, my
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: worry was that they were going to play down to
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: they were going to play down to Israel. It'd being
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a boring game. They would get count caught on the
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: counter and probably maybe tie the game. I would want
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: to obviously to win, but I thought it was gonna
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: be something scrappy like that. I think they took care
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: of their business, you know, early, but making some changes
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: and and and quite a few changes, you know, giving
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Britshanini to two starts that's sorry too appearances in both games.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: You know, his first looks, lookings with with this national
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: team at the senior level.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: So I still like the you know, the.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Experimenting with with with these young players and just players
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: that don't hasn't haven't gone into the system yet.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't know.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: For me, even though he made about six changes, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: still think at the core, you know, that the team
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: was relatively the same because I think the players that
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: he did interchange kind of like what would still would
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: still work, you know, a Cambiaso out nova in. You know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: they're more or less the same player on that right
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: flying So you know, but yeah, that's kind of how
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I saw the game, Johnny. I don't know if you
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: you mentioned saw anything else.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Sadly, no, I was substituting today, so I didn't have
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a chance to see much of the game, and I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: tried looking for highlights, but you know, you know, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: just to start a fun little segue of the conversation,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: don't you hate it when you try to look for
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: highlights online and these people put these freaking replays from
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: like the FIFA game or Provlution soccer game.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: What the fuck am I looking at?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: But but.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: No, it's not even that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like what like if you have her over,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Like so you search on Google, right, search it on Google.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You hel her mouse over like the video on YouTube,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and looks like there's images and highlights from the game itself.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, great, fantastic, And I'm not saying like
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the ones that look like, oh you could, it's so good,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like but it's from the game, like no, no, Like
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it's actual like images of like frets and stuff and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: totality like up close and stuff moving around, and it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: not like the video game, like they're wearing the proper
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: jerseys and everything. So I'm like, oh great, I know
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the weather whites and everything. So I click it and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like you see like ten
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: fifteen seconds of like this random ass like.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, click subscribe.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: You know what this website.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: The next thing, you know, it's like, welcome everybody to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: today's match between Italy and Israel.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is this ship?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I want highlights? I need no one the game, so
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: sadly just to blind the plane. You know, I'm not
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: gonna trance to even look at highlights.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm going.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: By did you watch the did you watch the FIFA
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: game at least or not even not?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Even the guy who played the game was the scrub anyway, so.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It could beat beat him. One thing I kind of
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to like pass around, like and and I know
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: which he kind of mentioned the names.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: But maybe like who, like who would be your MVP.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Of these two match days? If if you were to
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: give it to one player, we can kind of go around,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: but who would you go first? Uh uh hmm.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: That's a good question actually, I mean the Marco was
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: was solid. He deserves a shout. It have to be
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: for me, probably for for days, you though, just scoring,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: you know, scoring the crucial goals. He was involved in
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: a lot. I think he even picked up an assist
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: maybe in the first game, if I'm not mistaken. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: just based on numbers, I guess he deserves it, so
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: he'll get my vote.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: Nick joh, you guys, honestly, Toanale was great.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I think Toinale he changes the midfield. This is you know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: we were missing it obviously at the Euros but I
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: think also the way that Spilette uses players is it
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: was different at the Eros. I know we just talked
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: about that. But even a guy like Fortezi, you know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: he's he's not someone who's the starter with inter and
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: he comes in and he's a fantastic player with Italy,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: it means it means Spiletti's using him right. And to
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: have Toinale there, and you know, this is a team
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: that we didn't see Berrella and now we have Ricci
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: and you know Loka. Telly's kind of on the outside
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: looking in. But that's a good problem to have right now.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: You know, hopefully everyone stays healthy moving forward. But like
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: suddenly I'm excited about the midfield again and and it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: good to see Tonale back.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Their midfield might be the best part of the team, honestly,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: which is a good thing to have.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, one thing, one thing I'd say to Toanale, don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: don't bet again. Don't be an idiot again. Hopefully he
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: learned his lesson.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Let's hope.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: So john Y before I get mine, my MVP.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Has to be Spalletti for actually looking at other options
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: and actually considering fresh faces to try out this new
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Doji finally getting a call up and stuff, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: like like my mention, he was looking into him.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: We thought he showed some potential when he first came up.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I think it was like two years ago, three years.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: No, it was last year, two years yeah, and you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Know, like he looked promising. So it's nice that like, Okay,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: well you have a plethora of options, and it's now
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: creating the idea of like maybe players going elsewhere might
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: actually benefit the Italian team rather than sticking just locally
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: in the city. You know, like uh, because some of
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: these players that he called up, you know, like are
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: playing in different leagues. That just and you could see
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the quality change in terms of how they're playing on
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the pitch. And I'm not saying City is worse, it's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: just more like there was always like it felt like
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: as if there was like this taboo of like if
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: this player leaves City, you no longer look at him,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You no longer consider him for the national team unless
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it was an exception like Verati or Varati, just like
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: it was a no brainer at that point because it
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: was pure talent and don ruma, because what else are
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you going to put in like Alex Maret. No, thank
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you Theoio. At this point, I take the Gagodio on
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a heartbeat. You know what I'm saying, like over over meta.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say though, is that he actually,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: like okay, like he wasn't afraid to think outside the box,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: both literally and figuratively and try out different players to
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: see what fresh faces. No, it was no longer a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: merit based system. It was more like, okay, are you
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: are you informed? Yes, you're called up. No, I'm sorry,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: even if you've done stuff for us in the past.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm talking saying this in the sense of like
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Georgino for example, you know, like he went with a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: merit based based system with Georgino in the Euros, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Georgino was a very mid to below average player during
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the Euros. This year, he wasn't even he wasn't even
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a crucial midfielder.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: As he was in games in the past. You know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: like the guy's not old either. It's just I don't
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: know what he's just so through regressed, you know what
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: It's just that's what I'm saying, Like, just that's that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: just a small example in terms of like players that oh,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you think normally just because of their name, they should
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: be on the team. No, it's more about we don't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: care about the name. We just care about your nationality
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and if you're informer, not to play for the team.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: That's and I think that's what Splenty did, right, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that's why he gets.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: M v P. In my eye. No, it's good, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: you know, finally moving on from the old guard.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: I think we've been.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: It's one thing we've been screaming about, you know, just
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: on our end, you know, across the pond. It's like,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: you know this we have to turn the page from
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: this old guard. So to Johnny's point and to speat
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: splat the credit. I mean, you know, hopefully this is
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: is something you know, science to comment and continue on
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: this this this path because I think you know, even
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: though we always say, oh there's no talent in Italy,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: there's not this, it's not that, but this is a
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: this is a you know, a young core group of
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: players that he's that we've seen in just these two
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: games and even kind of you know fluttering into the
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: into the system you know, in these past years. So,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: uh that definitely is something to to say. But yeah, no,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: for me, I'm I'm sticking with Tonwi because it just listen,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: games are won and lost in the midfield. We always
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: say it. To now he was a big part of that. Again,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Liichi's play over two matches was was phenomenal. Finally having
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that you know, that midfielder right you know, in front
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: of the defense kind of you know, facilitating from from
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: from defense to offense. Uh, is is a player that
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: you know, we've been missing for for a while. We've
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: had players kind of you know playing that role and
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: kind of have decent performances. But if this, if this
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Lici can continue like this, I think it's it's it's
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a plaus But for me, it's to now you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: and and it's and it was evident pretty much from
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: the get go how much we missed them. You know,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: it showed because you know, no longer you know him there,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: you know, he comes back and he comes back defensively,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: he goes forward his his you know, at the end
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: of the France game, it was like end of the
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: game almost and he was still making like guarding runs
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: forward and trying to still attack and and you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: it just something that you know we're missing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: It's you know, the mid field.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: The midfield is you know, the heartbeat of the team.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: So you know, to now he back is is a
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: huge thing. And you know what, it was still a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: question mark because he just came back right after the
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: ten month band so we didn't know what to kind
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: of expect from him. Obviously, you know he's still training
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: on the side, but is he in game shape?
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Is you know, how is he gonna How's he gonna play?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: He just recently came back for Newcastle. So for him
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: coming in for Spolette, trusting him and praising him, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: him having two good performances, uh in back to back
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: succession with with with the Azi, I think just shows
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that you know, this this is a you know, integral
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: part of this this national team, an important player and
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: a player that you know, hopefully can can can take
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that next step with this with this with this AI
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: because I think we need him in this mid in
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: this midfield and no matter if it's going to be
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a midfield two or midfield three or however we want
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: to you know, kind of decipher this formation or these formations.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: If he's healthy and he's available, he's he's in the lineup.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: So yeah, for me, it's it was just a breadth
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: of fresh air having him back. Obviously, not seeing him
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: and Saidia anymore obviously is tough as an find it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: It was tough to let him go because, uh, you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: we knew he was a good player, had a bit
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: of an off year before he left for for for Newcastle.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: But listen, I hope he's all there for you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: with with with the stuff off the pitch. He's still young.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Uh you know, if if that betting stuff is a problem,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping, you know, he gets the proper help, you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to kind of you know, keep keep him on the
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: pitch rather than the off. It is is where we
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: need him. So for me, definitely m v P. But
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: there's definitely another shots. Like Lucie said, Cheese, I even
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: like Calafioti. He's really dominated, he's really dominates in that
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: in that but he's all over the place in the back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: That's unfortunate. He picked up an injury and and you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: they didn't want to risk it to you know, going
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: forward to today.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: But this guy is he's all over the place.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: But you know, what's even created, what's even good I
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: find still a good thing is that that depth that
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: we're seeing in the midfield in this formation. It seems
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: like we can kind of have it in with our
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: with our defense as well. You know, we saw a
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: whole new defensive trio today. And listen, maybe not all
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: those players are up to people's expectations and their standards,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: but and and the opponent was in Israel, no disrespect.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: But you know, I think it was we were able to.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Change almost a whole back three and still have you know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: a similar or a good result. So that's that's also
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: something to to look at because I don't think and again, Jah,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you agree, but the Arenzo I
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: don't think. Is that is that third center back on
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: that right side, I don't know well.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Because he's never played in the three man back formation.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: And that's what's that's what's irritating me because it's like it's.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Lorenzo.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's managed the Lorenzo and it's always been a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: four man back formation. It was a four four three
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that four four two or four three three, like it
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: was never a three man back formation. De Lorenzo can
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: play in that type of formation.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, he looks terrible.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It's because he's not like he's playing something that he
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: just he's playing in the situation that he can do.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: He's not a reliable like I think, like they could
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: look back at you as BBC, you know where it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like you need three actual guys that are actual center
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: backs to actually play a three man back formation and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: have that confidence to handle a three man back formation.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And that's it's a big thing when especially that like
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: his you know, he knows that he's had a very
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: shaky Euro, so you know he knows that on the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: national team all eyes are on him in terms of like, okay,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: makeup for terrible performances.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: And.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he's like sometimes majority of the time he just
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't deliver because, like as I said, just can't function
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: three men back. So if he's gonna keep on going
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: with a three five one one, because that's what it
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: seems to be working right now, the Lorenzo cannot be
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: like he cannot start. You could probably bring him on
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as a sub if you need to, or if you
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: want to bring him on to kind of like mid
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: game change from like a three five one one to
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like a four four one one randomly or something.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Try it out.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Sure, But if you're gonna start a three man back like,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: put put an actual center back out there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Put an actual center back.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Where does where does Conte play him?
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Because now I know Conte plays it, definitely plays a
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: back three, so he's gonna is even playing. I haven't
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: really looked at Napoli's lineup, so I don't really know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: but I would assume he'd be in a similar position there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I had my mike muted.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: He does, but it's it's it's it's night and day
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because it's just more like it's like a three four.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: But he's still playing regardless of however, but is he
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: playing that right wing back.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He's still playing that right back he's playing, so he's
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: playing like the right off.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: But even but even but even even for Napoli, he's
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: not that great in the three man back line.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I see, Okay, you know he's still frustrating.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: It's just it's mitigated in the city because the quality
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes is just on par so, yeah, it's it's it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: not so bad and.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: They're not France. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You're you're not playing against these these fast right wingers
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: that are just sorry left fingers, are just not playing
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: against the Mambappees.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: You know, you're not playing against that. Oh my god,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: oh from Spain.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, Nicole Williams.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Nicole Williams, thank you, Like you're not You're not playing
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: against the Williams.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I think, I think we just need to accept that
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the Lorenzo is his best days are behind him. He
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: had a good, good run from what two three years there,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: but he also got onto the scene a little later
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: than the most. I think he's already late twenties, maybe
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: even in his thirties now, yeah.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Thirty there you go.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: So he's like he's probably he's thirty one.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: He should be.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: You would think he's right about in his prime now,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: but he's might have you already might have passed the
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: boat on that one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: So I think.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Listening, you got options. So if he doesn't work, bringing
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the next see what you got.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: And if and and like you said, I if need
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: be he comes off off the bench and has you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: just more of a filler role, which is a shame
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: because the Oriente was a player that I've liked in
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: the past. Has he regretted a bit maybe? Is he
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: at a position? Absolutely, But if we want to go forward,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: we need to go on this on this path because
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: we need something that works. If that, if X player
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: doesn't fit in these formations and it doesn't work, you know,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: come off the bench or it's you know, off with
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: the old guard and with the news. So we'll see.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I still think he has something to give, but I
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: think it might not be as as in a role
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: where we previously had him at this level of Okay,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: he's at starting right back and there's no other looking
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: anywhere else. I think if we're playing a four back,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: absolutely I think he's still.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: There because the players that we are currently pointing.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Out there are more wing backs, the Cambiasos, the bell
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: and Overs of the world.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Still rather see them though, to be honest with you,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: just based on their speed and their youth. There, yeah,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: like you that you need that in today's game. The
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: wingers these days will even if he's playing right back,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get burned. Like we saw in the Euros.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: He was still playing relative most games played right back,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: and he still didn't look good. So I think you
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: gotta go with you gotta go with your young guns man.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: No, I agree, I agree, guys, I want to ask.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, start with Luca obviously. But so
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: in the Nations League fourmat is different this year where
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: it's groups of four like how it was in the past,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: but this time instead of instead of only the group
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: winner advancing to the semifinals, the top two advanced to
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: the quarterfinals to play. It to be played in March,
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: and then I think the semifinals and final are in June.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: So this actually ties in with World Cup qualification because
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: the top two, because they're playing in March and June,
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: they don't start. They don't start World Cup qualification until
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: next September, and so they because of that, they're in
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: a group of a group of four. I believe, Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: I believe it's a group of four, if that makes sense.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: And so yeah, they only start the following October, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: so another another caveat with this is that the group
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: winner is guaranteed at least a playoff spot in the
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: World Cup qualification. So once so World Cup collification comes
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: around and the second place team's advance to the second
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: place teams of the qualifiers advanced to the playoffs plus
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: group winners of the Nations League that haven't already qualified automatically.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: So obviously, as Italy fans, we want them to go
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: no matter what, go to the qualification, win their group,
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: avoid these playoffs entirely, but at least winning their group
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: here in the Nations League gives them that that blanket
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: to at least make the playoffs in World Cup qualification.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: How important do you think it is for the duty
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: to win their group uh in this nation's league and
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: at least, you know, maybe get that security blanket versus
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: you know, this is maybe just a time uh first plight,
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: you know, experiment a bit, put in some experimentation and
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: and try out these different guys different maybe even different formations.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: What what do you think is is the ultimate goal
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: for the team, do you guys? First of all, do
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: you guys understand that whole the whole system.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: You lost me halfway through? You lost me, Like I
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: guess we'll go on.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, I get it. It's like
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: the new formation is see for me, I think It's
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a bit of both because at the end of the day,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: if you don't win the group, it's not the end
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: of the world because you are still experimenting with some
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: new younger players you're trying to bring in. He's trying
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to bring in these new younger players to fit in
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: these positions taken over from Georgino and Christante and whoever,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: you know, whoever else you're trying to get rid of.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: I think, yes, in a perfect world, you want to
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: win the group, no doubt, So you get that that blanket,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: like you said, Nick, But I think at the end
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of the day, you still need to find the players
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna experiment with players in different positions to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: see until you you know, finally get who fits and
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: the players that you want to bring when qualifying does
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: come into count and when the World Cup does come around,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: if you know, hopefully they do qualify, right, and it's
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: something exactly So, I don't think it's the end of
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: the world if they don't win the group. So I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it'd be great, but I'm not going to be upset
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: if they don't.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Uh, for me, I mean
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't realize, you know, the importance of
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: like the when NICKI explained, like we're finishing what.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: That can do for you for the world up off,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Really realize that, to be honest with you guys going
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: for like right now. But after after hearing that and
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: ex saying it, I mean, I guess it is important.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Like obviously, at the core the Nations League was was
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: get rid of these.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Friendly is kind of making them a bit more uh.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Non friendlies, and and kind of giving a bit of
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: a competition to it. But it seems with with in
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: this case that it's even more than just making friendlies
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: more competitive. It actually has more weight to it than
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: just that so and and and some trophy that nobody
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: really maybe cares about, but hey, you might have it
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: in your in your trophy trophy cabin at the end
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: of the day. So yeah, I guess you know that
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: importance of finishing first is is good for sure, because
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Italy has shown us that you know, they have now
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: a bit of a track record of of doing it
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: the hard way and trying to get to the World Cup.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: And listen, I think we've we've done that in the past,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: and and we we at the end of the day, guys,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: we just want them. We just want the adulty in
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: the World Cup. So however that happens first and they
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: get that blanket, or you don't have that blanket because
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: you finished second and you need to go a different route,
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: really matter as long as they get to the World Cup.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: But you know, with the important of finishing first and
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: having that security blanket, it's not a bad thing. So
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: they've started off on a good note. They've already beat
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: France once. They play everybody twice, right for everybody to
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: play everybody twice, gym, I think the next international break and.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: Is again.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, next time out two home games Belgium in
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Rome and then Israel in Udine.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, perfect, So there you go. So already we beat
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: France once on the road, so now we have to
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: go play them at home. So you know hypothetically that
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: that's a bit of an advantage. We'll see how much
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: that is when they play again.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: But even if you draw that game, you should still
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: win the group. If you win your other games, it
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: gives you the upper hand.
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: Right, So starting off the way we started, I think
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: huge bonus is the biggest key factor to everything that
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: they explained in the new format where we want to finish,
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: how we can finish, and and kind of you know, get.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: With this, with this work of qualifying. So you know,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: first it is a bonus. I don't think it's the
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: dual end all type of thing.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Day, guys, we wait too damn long. We suffer too
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: damn much to not see Italy in another World Cup
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: that is going to be basically in our backyards, in
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Luch's backyard for sure, where he is geographically us further.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: But hey, it's.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Basically our backyard too, So it's down the street. It's
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: down the street, right, Uh So we want to see
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: it the way in the World Cup again. However that happens. Uh,
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: it happens. But I now that we're saying that we're
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: on this topic.
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: I'm getting a little bit amped up.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: I want to finish for a fucking yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I think you should go for the first place finish
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: not only for that, but also to reinstill confidence in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: this roster and this team, and also to restore some
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: faith to the fans. It's it's more of like a
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: statement thing like it's the trophy is just like a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: physical form of representing of like what we actually want
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to see from the team. We want to see a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: team that's capable of having faith in, you know, we
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: want to see a team that we have the confidence
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: in like this this roster, like we know, like any
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: on any given day, they can put it eleven players
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: on the field and we'll have full confidence in those
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: eleven players. You know that these are eleven players that
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: can compete with the rest of the world. It's it's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: gotten to a point where it's like like every Italy game,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it's like I don't have that confident Like last week
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I said I expected lost versus France and draw versus Israel,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: because my confidence love for this roster, for this team
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: in general, has gone to that point where it's like,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, like Dot, you don't feel that
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you don't feel like this is a dominant team. So
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying winning the Nations League automatically makes you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: known as a dominant team, but it's the first step
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: towards or not.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Even when in the Nations like winning your group, when
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: you and.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: So on and so forth, like it's the first step
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: towards like reinstilling that faith and confidence of the roster.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, Italy is a competitive team
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: because right now they're being like they're the laughing stock.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Right now, all the casuals are pretty much laughing at
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Italy because they are not looking they're not looking within.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: They just look at surface results and you know, at
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: surface value of the team.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm just tired of the comments.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of the ignorance that I'm getting fed up of,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: like you know, like it's it's you know what I'm
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: getting fed up with. It's the fact that you don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: even have a you don't have a way to bite back.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It's like they can make a comment, they don't have
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a way to.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Bite back or make a response back anymore.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's it sucks because it's like, yeah, you know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: it's that's that's what it is. It's the very below
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: like below expectations team. So I I want them to
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: to to go far. And you know what, if they
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: can win it, win it because for for those reasons,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: just to get back the confidence and the faith in
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the team all said.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: For me, I you know, I think it would be
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: good to have that security by winning it. But for me,
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's just good to finish top two advanced
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: to the quarterfinals, because quarterfinals is actually a home in
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: a league, home in away league versus another team, so
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: at least you get that opportunity to play two competitive
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: games against presumably a good team, good or great team.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: You know, already, when Italy drew this group, I said,
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: this is great playing against France Belgium. This is great competition,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you know. And the fact that, like you guys said,
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: they start off so well it you know, if if
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: they didn't have such a good start where they won
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: these two games, you know, maybe the discourse would be different.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'd be saying, okay, you know, you don't need
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: to focus so much on waiting. But the fact that
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: they already started with six points and now with four
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: games left, you know they have a real shot to
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: finish top two in this group. They put themselves in
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: a good position, so uh, you know, finishing top two
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: would be great. And then also it means less qualifying games,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: so less chance to screw up. Maybe in a smaller
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: group they'd be playing eight games, sorry, only six games,
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: and you just need to win your group of four HM.
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: So you know, at the end of the day, you
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: know Italy needs to win the group no matter who's
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: in it. But you know having only three other teams
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: gives you gives you a better chance. But guys, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: don't know if you had any jury talk, and you
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: know if not had one, you have a question for Lucci.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Lucia, anything else you want to add. Judy Wise going to.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: Say, like, since we're all Canadian here, what do we
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: have more confidence in Canada or Italy making the next
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: World Cup?
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: Canada is already qualified. I have more confidence in Canada.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: But I bet if I'm not betting man, I'm gonna
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: put it on Canada.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Are you betting on Canada to win any games?
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: I want to say yes, just because as hosts, they're
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: likely going to get a favorable draw where they're basically
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: like the pot one team, so they're only going to
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: be drawn against Pot two, Pot three, Pot four teams.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: They're not going to get another Pot one team.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a lot of pot.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot of pot. We are in Canada,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: it is legal. And the fact that at home, like
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: you always see the hosts do something, you know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: We'll look at look at Soudy against wasn't their first
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: game against.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that's probably like the oil money coming in,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: be like.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: We'll give you, we'll give you the cup. Just take
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: a dive on the first time.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: But but honestly, like like I could see them winning
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: a game at home, you know for the fans, Well
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: they make it the group. I don't know, we'll have
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: to see who's in the group. But I also like
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: what Herdman's putting into the system. You know, Jesse Marsh,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: I was thinking I was thinking too much for John Herdman,
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: that bum clocky ass coach John Herdman starting to midfielders.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Against Crewe forty seven years old.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that was that was just more of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: like a talisman thing.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: That was that's a merit. That's a pure merrit thing.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is a pure meriting. Yeah, that is a
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: pure merry thing.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: That was the same with the goalie, same with the
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: boj bros. Very awful anyways, But no, like like what.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Marc's putting in. You know, we've got maritime MESSI you
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: got what.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Is it, like four goals in five starts, Like it's ridiculous,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: how good.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: He's playing.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: It's got future event Tino Jonathan David. I like this team.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't know.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: He seems like inters been linking him, like so many
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: interest linked with everyone have too many Canadians.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: It's man that's enough and he's not even playing. But
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: you guys, Lucy, you.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: Asked the question. But I'm gonna flip it. What do
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: you think about this team?
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: About it in Canada or Italy? Yeah, I could see
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: them winning maybe one game depending on the competition. I
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: don't know if I see them getting out of the
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: group though, just just based on they're one injury away
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: from not doing anything, you know, like an injury could
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: be huge for them, and they're just not deep enough,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: like they have a good they have a good maybe
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: six seven players. After that that the rest of the
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: team is just pretty bang average. So depends who they
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: draw and depends on how healthy they stay. But when
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: you got the likes of you know, Alfonso and Maritime
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Messi as you guys like to call them, you never know,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: you never know, and FORMERFC player and then they let
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that guy go and now he's playing incredible losers.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: I think I think it would be tough, but it
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: all depends on the draw for sure. My thing is,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: you know, the scoring. I think you know something that
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: we kind of saw, you know last World Cup.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: Is that yeah, you know what, they had some opportunities.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: But you know they had some brilliant moments and they played,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: you know, they played, they played well for the first
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: time there, you know, so it was great. But you know,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, we need to put
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: the b on the back of the net. We have
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: guys that can do it. But at the same time,
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: it's you know between Laron and David sometimes like you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: if they're if they're off, like where's that, Where's where's
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: the offense coming from? Where's those goals scoring opportunities coming from?
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: And actually converting on them? Because Marethi and Messi there
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: you can go wiggle around everybody. But if he doesn't
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: put the ball in the back of the head, it
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't it doesn't help our cup. But so
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: is there players on this team that are good and
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: that are capable. Yes, you know, the midfield players, there's there,
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: there's a young there's there's a young core there too.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: Even for Canada. You know, uh, you know.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: The likes of Bombito and uh and Cony from from
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: our neck of the woods kind of making making an
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: impact on the international stage is huge. But you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: and I like what Marsh is doing. I wasn't sure
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: what to expect under under him. I know he's had
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: stints pretty much everywhere at this point, but now working
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: with Canada, I was curious to see how you can
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: take the team and bring it to another level. And
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: so far it looks like he's doing that. You know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: beating the US on US soil for the first time
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: since fifty seven. You know that that these are things
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: that that means something. So I think, you know, Marsh
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: being so dedicated to to this Canadian national team and
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: again buying into the system kind of how I started
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: the show with. You know, the players seem to be
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: buying into what Marsh's is delivering it it makes a
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: big thing. But at the World Cup, you know, at
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, you can play all the
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: beautiful football that you want, it's the results that count. Completely.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: If they don't put up it's a completely different game.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: It's no longer Conca calf it's no longer Copa Medica
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: versus you know, I don't know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Venezuela or whatever.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Venezuela. It's uh, it's it's World Cup against I don't know.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: If you don't get one of the top teams, maybe
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: you get you know, I don't know who would you get.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know, one of those I don't know, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: darkly even maybe like a Belgium or check one of
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: you know, George, like Georgia, like one of these other teams.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: You know, so it's it's totally different. They need to
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: put the ball in the back of the nets. It
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: seems that, you know, like I said, David and and
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: and Laryn kind of frees up a bit.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: So you know, I find them in two I don't know,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: they don't They don't do it for me.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Sometime they're good, don't get me wrong. Like David's good,
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: like when he plays for Lil or whatever. But and
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: even you know him scoring and and not tying, you
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: know all the time, scoring leader for Canada. You know,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: it's great, but we need to do it when when
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: it counts, when the lights are on the big stage.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: We need and that's when we need to do it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: That's when people are gonna start taking it seriously. That's
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: when you know, the stigma is gonna is gonna go
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: away already they're making strives towards that. Un Listen, I'm
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I didn't grow up watching Team Canada play, and I
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: was a big fan and all this, but seeing the
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: progression over these years, it's it's kind of changed my
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: narrative of of of the Canadian men's national team. And
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: and I'm excited to see when when when they play,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: and I want to see them do well. So getting
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: me on board and getting you know, some guys that
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: like myself that wasn't attached to the team early on,
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: they were kind of getting a bit more attached now
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: with this, with this play. Not to say it's a
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: bandwagon or whatever, it just you know, they're finally coming
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: out of uh you know, rising from the dead, the
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: type of type of metaphor, I guess. But but the
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Undertaker me where he comes out of you know, as
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: a right, that's that's that's been team Team Canada. So yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: I listen, can they can to wrap it up? And
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: can they win a game? Hopefully, but it's gonna it's
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: gonna take a lot for for them to do it,
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: and hopefully doing it on you know, home soil. Uh,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: what would be another thing that you know, not many
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: people would have expected, but hopefully.
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: They can get it done, you know, in their own backyard, ye.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Jau. I don't know if you guys jined, I mean
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: for just team Canada in general, or you think they win.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Do you think they do well? Do you think they
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: can win a game and they'll woke up the Oh.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I think this is this roster is definitely they're going
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to go into that next one with more experience and
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: more knowledge and uh, you know last time you made
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it was eighty six compared.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: To the lost World Cup. So it's you know, you're
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: not going in.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: With uh without any knowledge. You have knowledge and you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: have what it takes. Uh, you understand what the competition
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: is going to ask.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Of you to do.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: So in my eyes, I think they do much better
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: than they did last World Cup and definitely definitely do
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: see them probably getting their win.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I think the team overall is just fired.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: In all cylinders and I think they they look they
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: look cohesive, they look like a proper unit and stuff,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: and when you watch them, you just have more confidence
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: in them. That's a's night and day compared to the
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: time national team. Like I said before, it's like when
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I watch Canada play, I actually have more confidence. And
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: then getting the results versus their competition, then what Italy
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: is gonna get versus their competition?
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: So that's it just feels that way because because of
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: the consistency.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's just like I said, just the consistency of it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's the best way I can describe it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Before wrapping Wlucci, I want to keep on the topic
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: of UAFO. You're talking about UF Champions League now sorry
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: u IF Nations League. I spoiled it. Yeah, league, new format,
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: what is it? We're thirty six teams now, no groups?
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: You play already I already forgot. You played ten teams
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: and you got this massive table and you he's back
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: this year, so first time in two years. Last time
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: they played a Champions League game was back in twenty
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: twenty two, so so it's almost been two full calendar years.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: I'll yeah, bro, this fucking so long. We'll go yeah,
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: so long.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Just ask me when Roma played their last Champions.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Two guys, what do we do when you guys have been.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: To two calendars it's faithful ad as you've a fan,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: you're used to seeing them in the Champions League. I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: know you guys don't normally, you know, you don't expect
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: your team to be the Champions League every year. But uh,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: all right, I was gonna pull it up.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: I totally cut you off, guarded.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: No worries, no worries. It is good, all in good
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: but good times here on the counter, guys, So, uh
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: is it they played eight teams?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not eighteen.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: I know it's first Yeah, yeah, there's not in order though, Einhoven, Leipzig, Stutguard,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 9: Little Villa, Man City, Brook and Benfica.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: So they you know what, they did get a pretty
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: fair favorable draw. Obviously the biggest challenger here is man City.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: You know, a team like Lips they could could definitely,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: you know, definitely a dark horse. You could say the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: same thing about Benfica and lil Uh. What do you expect?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: What do you expect to see out of Manta in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Champions League? Out of basically this new lit quve And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: you know a lot of these guys just don't have
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: too much Champions League experience.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: What what do you what do you make of it? Luci?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: What do you.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a big test for not only
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: the players because there's a lot of youngsters in there,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: but Mata too. He's you know, it's going to be
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: a new stage for him. You know, he's used to Bologna,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: where they would probably play once every six seven days.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Now he's going to be playing three games probably every
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: seven seven eight. Like, it's a lot. It's a lot
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: of games back to back. He's gonna have to, you know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: do a lot of rotating, a lot of making sure
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: he's ready for the certain opponents and how they set
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: up and how you know, the proper players and the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: proper pieces and things like that. Like you said, Nick,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: the draw isn't terrible. It's like I was looking through
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: it with Al the other day and we were talking
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: about it. I think we were talking about maybe fifteen
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: to sixteen points was you know, our guests on how
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: they come out of this. PSV should be be a win.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: You know, Man City, you'll be lucky if you pull
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: out a draw like you don't expect them to win
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: that game. Leipzig might be tough, especially away from home.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Benfica is another tricky one, so you got to expect
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be a couple of losses in there. But
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: like I said to Al, you got to win the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: games that you're supposed to win, like the PSV, like Leo,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: like Bruges. I think there's even was it aston Villa.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: I believe in there as well, another EPL team. I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: think like those are games you're probably gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: win because you know, City's gonna be a tough Leipzig
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  Speaker 3: maybe get a draw. Yeah, Like it seems it sounds
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  Speaker 3: easier because you're looking at the other teams, you're like, okay,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: on paperwork terrible. But when you put in the different
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: factors of you know, Yieldez and you know all the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: new faces, and yield As is young, and you got
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  Speaker 3: two rands still young, and half these guys haven't played
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Champions League football before, it's going to be It's it's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: easier said than done. It's a completely different, different atmosphere,
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  Speaker 3: lots more pressure. You know, everyone's watching, bigger stage, all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff, so it's going to take some time, I
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  Speaker 3: think for them to adjust and you know, be prepared.
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  Speaker 3: But if they can find their you know, find their feet,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: then you know Valvich is doing what he needs to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: do and score goals and you know, not miss target,
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  Speaker 3: then we might have have a chance of doing decent, right,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: but again easier said than done.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: No, Nick, how is the form of the format, Like,
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  Speaker 4: how does it progress after?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know you explained it to.
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  Speaker 3: Me, but I think that's the top is it? The
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: top teams go through or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, top eight, uh qualifying.
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  Speaker 3: Or something automatic qualified, and then there's a playoff round
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  Speaker 3: or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the top eight automatically qualify for the round
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  Speaker 5: of sixteen, they're the seeded teams, and then next nine
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: till yeah, nine through twenty four they play in a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: knockout around to advance around to sixteen, and then the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: bottom uh what is it? Twelve six, twelve, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 5: makes sense. Bottom twelve are eliminated completely at least, you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: know what. One thing I like about this new format
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  Speaker 5: is that you get eliminated from Champions League. You don't
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: go down to europe League. Season is done.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it ends there, it ends, there is.
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  Speaker 5: In it, Yeah exactly, Sea's.
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  Speaker 10: Not done, but you're yeah, yeah, yeah, at least at
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: least a lot more games though, Like if you like
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: right off the bat, there's you know you're playing eight
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  Speaker 10: games instead of it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're still playing eight games, but you're playing different teams.
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  Speaker 3: You're not playing home and home, you know. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: it's a different, different competition, different team. You can't you know,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: you don't know how this team's going to complaye you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: play compared to one that you've already played. It's it's different,
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I guess we'll see how it goes, but
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: something different, maybe more money.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought I thought we didn't want
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: the super League, but I guess we have it very similar.
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  Speaker 4: We're calling it the Champions League, but we don't want
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: the super League.
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  Speaker 5: And in their promo video for this, they even like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: made a jab but the super League. I don't know
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: if you guys saw there. There's a whole video with
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: with Cheffrin and a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, my team's not a Champions League.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: No, No, it's true last year, but no, what I'm
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: mean saying in the video, there's a lot of time
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: and and Chaffran's a lot of times like basically Chefferan's
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: explaining the format is a lot of times, a lot
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: of times loving and he's like He's like, oh, you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: can basically call it a super and then Chaffran's like, no,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: I told you that when rap it. So it's basically
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: a jab of the super League. But that's all it is.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: It's the same. Where are all the Chelsea fans who
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: protested that was ridiculous three years ago that they protested
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: Oh say football, say football? Meanwhile, this is this is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: what we get out of it. Anyways, I digress. Where
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: were we?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's super League but not the Super League.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, pretty much exactly.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: It's couldn't know. But honestly, to be honest, I think
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be interesting to see anything any change in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: a competition that's been around for so long that we
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: got so accustomed to, like just even the away go rule,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Like when that changed, like that was like something thing
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: that used to it because we it used to be
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: like every you know, well we were watching those games.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: But back in the days where you know, you score
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: on you score on the road, it's like, you know,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: that's like plus two where you know, now we're gonna
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: go home.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: We have that that cushion.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: It's when that change, it was like, okay, wow, this
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: is this is a different thing now this, like the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: whole competition is changing more teams. I don't know if
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: the competition is as going to be as elite as
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to be with adding other teams into the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Champions League. But listen, at the end of the day,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: we know what makes this ball go around.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: It's it's the money, and.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's unfortunate, but hey, this is what it is.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: No big again, like Nick said, the fans that are
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: trying to be heroes and try to save save football
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: with football is always going to be there.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Culture is always going to be there, But what's going
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: to put it to another level?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Unfortunate in this day and age, it's not the sixties, seventies, eighties,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: nineties anymore. It's it's going on in time, and it's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: the money that's going to take it to the next level, unfortunately.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see how how how it works,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: like how it ends up like panning out, Like we
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: can see it on paper and discuss about it, you know,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: on on the podcast, but to actually see it live,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see. It adds more
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: games in the schedule, for for sure, for for these teams,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: but listen. Hopeful for our talent teams to do well,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: but it's gonna be it's gonna be a big change.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see how that everything pans out.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: Uh So I think they'll do it for us. Uh, Lucy,
• 1:08:08
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• 1:08:16
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• 1:08:18
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• 1:08:23
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• 1:08:28
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