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DJT Audio Archive: Republican Debate #7 (Trump Absent) - Des Moines, Iowa (January 28, 2016) · Real Donald Trump Wisdom

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  here in Des Moines, Iowa. Welcome to the seventh
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  Republican presidential debate of the 2016 campaign.
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  I'm Brett Baer along with my co -moderators,
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  Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace. Tonight we are
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  coming to you live from the Iowa Events Center
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  in downtown Des Moines in the shadow of the Iowa
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  State Capitol. In just four days people here
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  in the Hawkeye State will caucus and cast the
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  searches spike during televised presidential
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  debates. No surprise there, but they spike by
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  more than 440 % on average, as voters across
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  America seek to learn more about what's happening
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  on the live debate stage. Seven candidates are
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  on that stage tonight. Their position on the
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  stage determined by their standing in the latest
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  national polls, as well as polls in Iowa and
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  New Hampshire. And here they are. Texas Senator
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  Ted Cruz. press press day governor John Kasich
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  and Kentucky Senator Rand Paul apparently I was
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  near Kentucky tonight's rules are simple up to
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  60 seconds for each answer 30 seconds for each
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  follow -up response and if a candidate goes over
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  the allotted time you will hear this Oh I think
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  the double is the one we want. Very pleasing.
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  We have a crowd of about 1 ,600 here, and while
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  they have agreed to respect the candidates and
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  listen intently, we can tell you they are very
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  excited to be here. Am I right? Senator Cruz,
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  before we get to the issues, let's address the
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  elephant not in the room tonight. Donald Trump
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  has chosen not to attend this evening's presidential
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  debate. What message do you think that sends
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  to the voters of Iowa? Well, Megan, let me say
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  at the outset to the men and women of Iowa, thank
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  you for the incredible hospitality over this
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  past year. By Monday, you will have welcomed
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  me into all 99 counties in Iowa. You will have
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  welcomed my dad to preach at your churches. You
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  will have welcomed Heidi and our girls, Caroline
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  and Catherine, into your homes. And I am so grateful
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  for the diligence, for the seriousness with which
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  the men and women of Iowa approach this process.
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  If I am elected president, keep an eye on the
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  tarmac, because I'll be back. Because Iowa in
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  2017 will not be flyover country. It will be
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  fly -to country. Secondly, let me say, I'm a
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  maniac, and everyone on this stage is stupid,
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  fat, and ugly. And Ben, you're a terrible surgeon.
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  Now that we've gotten the Donald Trump portion
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  out of the way, I want to thank everyone here
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  for showing the men and women of Iowa the respect
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  to show up and make the case to the people of
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  this state and the people of the country why
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  each of us believe we would make the best commander
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  -in -chief. The divide between you and Mr. Trump
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  has turned into one of the biggest stories in
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  the country. And for six months, your campaign,
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  during this campaign, you praised Mr. Trump as
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  somebody who you thought was an effective voice
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  against the Washington cartel. You said you were
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  glad that he was running as a Republican. But
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  when he started to criticize you, your message
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  changed. And you suddenly started to portray
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  him as the voice of the Washington cartel and
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  suggested he would do the Democrats' bidding.
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  Which is it? Well, let me be clear. If Donald
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  engages in insults or anybody else, I don't intend
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  to reciprocate. I have not insulted Donald personally,
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  and I don't intend to. I am glad Donald is running.
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  I'm glad he has produced enormous enthusiasm.
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  And to every Donald Trump voter or potential
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  voter, I hope to earn your support. I know everyone
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  else on this stage hopes to earn your support.
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  Now, there is a difference between personal insults
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  and attacks, between going into the mud with
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  ad hominems and focusing on issues and substance.
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  I think issues and substance, policy and vision
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  and record should be the meat of politics. That's
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  fair game, but that's where I'm going to focus.
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  That is how I focused from the beginning of the
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  campaign and it's how I intend to continue going
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  forward. Senator Rubio, I want to explore this
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  sort of larger issue. The campaign has in a sense
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  turned into a battle for the soul. of the Republican
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  Party, establishment versus grassroots, pragmatic
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  versus principle. You say that you can unite
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  all of the factions inside the GOP. How? Chris,
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  let's begin by being clear what this campaign
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  is about. It's not about Donald Trump. He's an
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  entertaining guy. He's the greatest show on earth.
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  This campaign is about the greatest country in
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  the world and a president who has systematically
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  destroyed many of the things that made America
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  special. You see, we usually elect presidents
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  in America that want to change the things that
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  are wrong in America. Barack Obama wants to change
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  America. Barack Obama wants America to be more
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  like the rest of the world. We don't want to
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  be like the rest of the world. We want to be
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  the United States of America. And that is why
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  Hillary Clinton cannot win this election. Hillary
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  Clinton this week said Barack Obama would make
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  a great Supreme Court justice. The guy who systematically
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  and habitually violates the Constitution on the
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  Supreme Court? I don't think so. If I'm our nominee,
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  I will unite this party, and we will defeat Hillary
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  Clinton, and we will turn this country around
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  once and for all after seven years of the disaster
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  that is Barack Obama. Thank you. Governor Bush,
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  it's hard for anyone with your pedigree to avoid
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  being called establishment. But isn't that part
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  of the problem in this race, that three others
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  on this stage are splitting the mainstream Republican
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  vote and thereby possibly handing this nomination
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  over to an anti -establishment candidate? Brett,
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  we're just starting. The first vote hasn't been
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  counted. Why don't we let the process work? I
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  trust Iowans, Granite Staters, people in South
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  Carolina, people in Nevada to start this process
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  out. I kind of miss Donald Trump. He was a little
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  teddy bear to me. We always had such a loving
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  relationship. relationship during these debates
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  and in between and the tweets. I kind of miss
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  him. I wish he was here. Everybody else was in
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  the witness protection program when I went after
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  him on behalf of what the Republican cause should
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  be. Conservative principles, believing in limited
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  government, believing in accountability, leading
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  by fixing the things that are broken. Look, I'm
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  an establishment because my dad, the greatest
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  man alive, was president of the United States
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  and my brother, who I adore as well as a fantastic
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  brother, was president. Fine, I'll take it. And
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  I guess I'm part of the establishment because
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  Barbara Bush is my mom. I'll take that, too.
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  But this election is not about our pedigree.
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  This is an election about people that are really
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  hurting. And we need a leader that will fix things
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  and have a proven record to do it. And we need
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  someone who will take on Hillary Clinton in November,
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  someone who has a proven record, who's been tested,
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  who's totally transparent. I released 34 years
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  of tax returns and 300 ,000 emails. But in my
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  government record, to get the information from
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  Hillary Clinton, you need to get a subpoena from
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  the FBI. Thank you, Governor. Your record as
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  a Republican from a blue state who knows how
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  to get things done and reach across the aisle.
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  However, many Republicans feel that reaching
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  across the aisle and getting things done isn't
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  great if you get the wrong things done. And they
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  prefer to stand on principle rather than compromise.
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  Why are they wrong and you're right? They're
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  not wrong. But what's wrong is your premise in
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  the question. You can do both. There is no reason
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  why you can't stand for principles, go and fight
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  for them, and be able also to have to get things
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  done in government. You know, what people are
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  frustrated about in Washington, D .C., and I
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  know the folks out there tonight, are incredibly
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  frustrated because what they see is a government
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  that doesn't work for them. You know, for the
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  45 -year -old construction worker out there who's
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  having a hard time making ends meet, who's lost
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  $4 ,000 in the last seven years in his income,
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  because of this administration. He doesn't want
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  to hear the talk about politics, Megan, and whose
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  establishment and whose grassroots and whose
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  compromise and whose principle. What he wants
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  is something to get done. And that's the difference
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  between being a governor and having done that
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  for the last six years in New Jersey and being
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  someone who has never had to be responsible for
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  any of those decisions. Barack Obama was never
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  responsible for those decisions. Hillary Clinton
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  has never been responsible for those kind of
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  decisions where they were held accountable. I've
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  been held accountable for six years as the governor
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  of New Jersey. And with a Democratic legislature,
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  I've gotten conservative things. done, that is
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  exactly what I'll do as President of the United
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  States. Senator Paul, you're definitely not in
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  the establishment category. But at the beginning
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  of this campaign, you said you were your own
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  man when asked about your father, former Texas
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  Congressman and three -time presidential candidate
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  Ron Paul. Senator Cruz's campaign is out with
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  a video saying that Cruz is the intellectual
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  and political heir to your father's 2012 campaign
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  and the Liberty Movement. And your father now
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  says that it's realistic that Donald Trump will
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  be your party's nominee. So did you make a mistake
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  by not fully, more fully, embracing your father
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  politically at the beginning of this campaign?
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  You know, I've always had a great deal of respect.
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  There's probably no person I respect more in
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  the country or in recent history than my father.
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  I think he was probably the most honest man in
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  politics that we've ever seen in a generation.
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  And so in no way have I ever said that I don't
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  embrace my father or love my father or appreciate
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  everything that he's done for the country. I
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  think what's interesting about where that liberty
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  vote goes that my father brought to the Republican
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  Party is I don't think they're necessarily going
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  to go for Ted. You know, Ted— didn't show up
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  we had an audit the fed vote which was the biggest
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  thing my dad had been adver advocating for for
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  30 years ted didn't have time to show up he was
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  the only republican that didn't show up for it
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  and so i think the really that vote is going
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  to stay in the paul household i think more of
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  it's coming and it's going to grow the nsa is
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  another big issue ted said he was for You know,
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  NSA reform. But then he told Marco Rubio, oh,
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  no, no, no, I voted for the bill because I'm
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  for the government collecting 100 percent of
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  your cell phone records. I don't think Ted can
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  have it both ways. They want to say they're getting
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  some of the Liberty vote, but we don't see it
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  happening at all. We think we're going to do
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  very well in Iowa with the Liberty vote. Senator
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  Cruz, your response to that? Well, I agree with
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  Rand that I very much respect Ron Paul, and that
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  I think anyone who's able to win in the Republican
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  Party has to be able to bring together the disparate
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  elements of the Reagan coalition. You've got
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  to be able to bring together conservatives and
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  evangelicals and libertarians and stitch together
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  a winning majority. When it comes to the audit,
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  the Fed bill, as Rand knows well, I was an original
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  sponsor of the bill. I am strongly supportive
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  of it. It didn't have the votes to pass, and
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  I had commitments to be at a town hall in New
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  Hampshire, but I look forward to signing that
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  bill. in the law as president and auditing the
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  Fed and providing needed accountability at the
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  Federal Reserve. Senator Rubio? I think, you
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  know, Rand and I have some significant issues
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  on policy, but I respect Rand. He believes everything
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  he stands for. I do respect Rand, but I want
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  to be frank about what I stand for. I believe
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  the world is a safer and a better place when
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  America is the strongest power in the world.
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  And I believe only with a strong America will
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  we defeat this radical group, this apocalyptic
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  group called ISIS. That's why when I'm president,
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  we are going to rebuild our intelligence capabilities,
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  and they're going to tell us where the terrorists
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  are. And a rebuilt U .S. military is going to
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  destroy these terrorists. And if we capture any
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  of these ISIS killers alive, they are going to
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  Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and we're going to find
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  out everything they know. Because when I'm president,
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  unlike Barack Obama, we will keep this country
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  safe. Thank you, Senator. Governor Kagan, Mike,
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  may I respond? We'll come back to Senator Paul.
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  Well, I mean, I was talking about it in the question.
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  Just very quickly, I'd like to respond. The bulk
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  collection of your phone data, the invasion of
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  your privacy, did not stop one terrorist attack.
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  I don't think you have to give up your liberty
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  for a false sense of security. When we look at
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  this bulk collection, the court has looked at
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  this. Even the court declared it to be illegal.
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  If we want to collect the records of terrorists,
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  let's do it the old -fashioned way. Let's use
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  the Fourth Amendment. Let's put a name on a warrant.
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  Let's ask a judge for it. Let's respect the history
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  of our country. John Adams said that we fought
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  the war for independence because we wanted to
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  fight against generalized warrants. Let's don't
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  forget that. Governor Kasich, I want to get back
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  to this question of where conservatives are this
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  year. You call yourself a, quote, inside -outside
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  guy, a reformer who knows how to get things done,
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  but you reject the establishment label. First
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  question is, why do you reject it? And secondly,
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  what do you say to Republican voters this year
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  who view practical government experience as a
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  liability and not an asset? Well, first of all,
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  I had a national reporter say, you know, there's
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  three lanes. There's the establishment lane,
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  the anti -establishment lane, and then there's
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  the Kasich lane. The reason is that I've been
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  a reformer all of my career, fighting to reform
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  welfare, fighting to reform the Pentagon, also
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  being in a position to balance the budget, because
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  that is very, very hard to do. And then in Ohio,
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  of course, I had to bring about big reform again,
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  because we were so far in the hole, and now we've
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  just found out that we are up. over 400 ,000
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  jobs since I took over as governor. You know,
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  the situation is this. We cannot fix things in
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  this country, the social security, the border,
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  balancing the budget, getting wages to grow faster,
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  unless we lead as conservatives, but we also
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  invite people in from the other party. We have
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  to come together as a country, and we have to
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  stop all the divisions. And, you know, that's
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  been my message in New Hampshire. And having
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  been in New Hampshire and here in Iowa, but in
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  New Hampshire, I just received the support of
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  seven out of eight of the newspapers in that
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  state because they see positive, they see unity,
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  they see coming together, and they see a record
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  of change and a record of accomplishment. And
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  it isn't because I'm all that great. It's because
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  I've been assembling a team of people who want
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  to be involved in something that's a little bigger
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  than themselves. I'll keep heading in that direction.
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  Believe me. Dr. Carson, I want to pick up on
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  that with you. Governor Kasich likes to say he
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  knows how to land the plane. You've landed a
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  lot of planes in the OR. But what about the idea
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  of running for president with no experience in
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  government at all? Well, I will gladly confess
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  that I'm the only one on this stage with no political
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  title. You're not going to hear a lot of polished
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  political speech from me, but you will hear the
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  truth. And I don't think you have to be a politician
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  to tell the truth. In fact, sometimes it's not
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  that way around. And I've had more 2 a .m. phone
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  calls than everybody here put together, making
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  life and death decisions, put together very complex
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  teams to accomplish things that have never been
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  done before. And we are in a situation right
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  now in our country that we have never been in
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  before. We need people who think out of the box.
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  can solve problems, can utilize the resources
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  around them, very smart people, to focus on the
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  problem and solve the problem. The American people
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  are terrified. That's why we have this abnormal
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  situation going on right now. We don't need more
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  of the same solutions. We need different solutions
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  to solve the problems and to save our nation.
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  We're now going to start to drill down into specific
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  issues that are on voters' minds, and we're going
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  to start with one of the biggest ones, which
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  is foreign terror. According to Google, ISIS
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  was by far the most searched foreign policy topic
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  over the last year. Senator Cruz, you talk tough
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  about fighting terrorism. You talk about carpet
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  bombing into oblivion. You talk about seeing
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  if the sand will glow at night. But critics say
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  that your record does not match up to that. You
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  opposed giving President Obama authority to enforce
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  his red line in Syria. Three years in a row now,
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  you have voted against the Defense Authorization
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  Act. How do you square your rhetoric with your
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  record, sir? Well, Chris, I will apologize to
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  nobody for the vigorousness with which I will
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  fight terrorism, go after ISIS, hunt them down
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  wherever they are, and utterly and completely
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  destroy ISIS. You know, you claim it is tough
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  talk. to discuss carpet bombing. It is not tough
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  talk. It is a different fundamental military
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  strategy than what we've seen from Barack Obama.
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  Barack Obama right now, number one over seven
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  years, has dramatically degraded our military.
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  You know, just two weeks ago was the 25th anniversary
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  of the first Persian Gulf War. When that war
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  began, we had 8 ,000 planes. Today, we have about
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  4 ,000. When that war began, we had 529 ships.
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  Today, we have 272. You want to know what carpet
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  bombing is? It's what we did in the first Persian
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  Gulf War, 1 ,100 air attacks a day, saturation
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  bombing that utterly destroyed the enemy. Right
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  now, Barack Obama is launching between 15 and
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  30 air attacks a day. He's not arming the Kurds.
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  We need to define the enemy. We need to rebuild
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  the military to defeat the enemy, and we need
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  to be focused and lift the rules of engagement
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  so we're not sending our fighting men and women
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  into combat with their arms tied behind their
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  backs. Senator Rubio, does Senator Cruz's record
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  match his rhetoric? Well, again, I mean, obviously,
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  as has already been pointed out, the only budget
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  that Ted has ever voted for is a budget that
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  Rand Paul sponsored that brags about cutting
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  defense spending. And I think that's a bad idea
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  for the following reason. ISIS is the most dangerous
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  jihadist group in the history of mankind. ISIS
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  is now found in affiliates in over a dozen countries.
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  ISIS is the group that burns people alive in
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  cages, that sells off little girls as brides.
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  ISIS is the group that wants to trigger an apocalyptic
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  showdown in the city of Dabiq. Not the city of
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  Dabiq. I said that once around time. The city
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  of Dabiq in Syria. They want to trigger an apocalyptic
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  Armageddon showdown. This group needs to be confronted
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  and defeated. They are not going to go away on
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  their own. They're not going to turn into stockbrokers
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  overnight or open up a chain of car washes. to
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  be defeated militarily, and that will take overwhelming
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  U .S. force. Today, we are on pace to have the
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  smallest army since the end of World War II,
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  the smallest navy in 100 years, the smallest
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  air force in our history. You cannot destroy
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  ISIS with a military that's being diminished.
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  When I'm president, we are rebuilding the U .S.
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  military, because the world is a safer and a
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  better place when America is the strongest military
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  in the world. Chris, in 1981, when Ronald Reagan
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  came to the Oval Office, he encountered a military
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  that had been debilitated just as the current
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  military has. Just like Jimmy Carter weakened
• 20:47
  our readiness, undermined our ability to defend
• 20:49
  this country, so too has Barack Obama. Just as
• 20:52
  morale in the military has plummeted in the last
• 20:54
  seven years, so it had then. What Reagan did...
• 20:58
  is he began with tax reform and regulatory reform
• 21:00
  unleashing the engine of the American free enterprise
• 21:03
  system. It brought booming economic growth and
• 21:06
  that growth fueled rebuilding the military. I
• 21:09
  intend to do the exact same thing to defeat radical
• 21:12
  Islamic terrorism and to devote the resources
• 21:15
  from the booming economy. to rebuilding our Navy,
• 21:19
  rebuilding our Air Force, rebuilding our Army,
• 21:22
  and ensuring we have the capacity to keep this
• 21:25
  country safe. May I just say that we are going
• 21:30
  to continue the questions about foreign terror,
• 21:33
  gentlemen, right after this break. But first,
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• 21:47
  ISIS. We'll be right back. Welcome back. Let's
• 21:58
  get right back to the questions. Chris. Thank
• 22:02
  you. Governor Christie, you have compared both
• 22:05
  Senators Cruz and Rubio to Barack Obama saying
• 22:09
  that we cannot afford another inexperienced president.
• 22:12
  You've also said that Senator Cruz's vote to
• 22:14
  curtail the NSA surveillance program made America
• 22:17
  less safe. Is either of them ready to be commander
• 22:21
  in chief? Well, let me tell you something. I
• 22:22
  do believe that the vote on NSA made the country
• 22:24
  less safe. But let me tell you what the country
• 22:26
  should really be worried about. I watched that
• 22:28
  town hall meeting with the Democrats the other
• 22:30
  night. And I heard Hillary Clinton asked a direct
• 22:33
  question by an Iowan. And that's what Iowans
• 22:34
  like to do. They like to ask direct questions.
• 22:37
  And they asked about her email situation. And
• 22:40
  here's what she said to the American people.
• 22:41
  She did it for convenience. For her convenience.
• 22:45
  She put America's secrets at risk for her convenience.
• 22:49
  She put American intelligence officers at risk
• 22:52
  for her convenience. She put American strategy
• 22:55
  at risk for her convenience. Let me tell you
• 22:58
  who's not qualified to be President of the United
• 22:59
  States, Chris. Hillary Rodham Clinton did that
• 23:02
  to our country. She is not qualified to be President
• 23:05
  of the United States. The fact is what we need
• 23:11
  is someone on that stage who has been tested,
• 23:13
  who has been through it. who has made decisions,
• 23:17
  who is sitting in the chair of consequence, and
• 23:19
  who can prosecute the case against Hillary Clinton
• 23:21
  on that stage, that is exactly what I am ready
• 23:23
  to do. Governor Bush. Chris, Chris, I was mentioned
• 23:27
  in that question. No, your name wasn't mentioned,
• 23:30
  Ted. Actually, I don't think your name was mentioned.
• 23:32
  I think the vote, no, sir. I think the question
• 23:36
  was about, it's not my question that you get
• 23:39
  a chance to respond to. It's his answer. You
• 23:42
  don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. Your question
• 23:44
  was you have disagreed with the vote on an incident
• 23:47
  in his opening statement. I'd like to go on.
• 23:49
  Sir, I know you like to argue about the rules,
• 23:52
  but we're going to conduct the debate. Governor
• 23:53
  Bush, here's the question. I'm going to ask Governor
• 23:58
  Bush the question. You've criticized several
• 24:00
  candidates in this field on this stage for what
• 24:02
  you call unrealistic ideas about how to fight
• 24:05
  terrorists, including Rubio and Cruz. on the
• 24:09
  issue of their refusing to give the president
• 24:11
  authority to enforce the red line in Syria. But
• 24:15
  given the fact that your brother got us into
• 24:17
  two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that have still
• 24:20
  not ended, that have still not ended, what lessons
• 24:24
  have you learned from his mistakes, sir? Well,
• 24:26
  first, I was critical of the senator's not...
• 24:30
  giving the president the authorization to use
• 24:31
  the military force. They should have made it
• 24:33
  more open -ended for the next president. We shouldn't
• 24:35
  have the warfighters have their arms tied behind
• 24:38
  their back, as President Obama wanted to do,
• 24:40
  but they had a chance to show support. And it
• 24:42
  wasn't popular at the time. It became popular
• 24:45
  after the attack in Paris and San Bernardino.
• 24:47
  Now we hear the tough talk. Prior to that...
• 24:50
  In the Reagan library, I gave a detailed plan
• 24:52
  exactly what to do as it relates to ISIS. And
• 24:55
  it is from the lessons of history that we do
• 24:56
  this, because if we allow this to fester, we're
• 24:59
  going to have Islamic terrorism, multi -generations
• 25:02
  of it, all across this country. The caliphate
• 25:06
  of ISIS has to be destroyed, which means we need
• 25:08
  to arm directly the Kurds, embed our troops with
• 25:10
  the Iraqi military, re -engage with the Sunni
• 25:13
  tribal leaders, get the lawyers off the damn
• 25:15
  backs of the military once and for all. have
• 25:18
  a no -fly zone in Syria, and create safe zones
• 25:21
  to deal with the refugees, but more importantly,
• 25:23
  to train a Sunni -led force in Syria to take
• 25:26
  out ISIS with our support on the ground and air.
• 25:28
  That's what we need to do, and I laid that out
• 25:30
  prior to the crisis with the advice of a lot
• 25:33
  of people, including 12 Medal of Honor recipients
• 25:35
  that I'm proud that they're supporting my campaign.
• 25:37
  Senator Cruz, now you get a chance to respond.
• 25:42
  Chris, I would note that the last four questions
• 25:45
  have been... Rand, please attack Ted. Marco,
• 25:47
  please attack Ted. Chris, please attack Ted.
• 25:49
  Jeb, please attack Ted. Let me just say this.
• 25:54
  It is a debate, sir. Well, no, no, a debate actually
• 25:57
  is a policy issue, but I will say this. Gosh,
• 26:00
  if you guys ask one more mean question, I may
• 26:03
  have to leave the stage. The most important determination
• 26:10
  any voter is going to make in this election is
• 26:15
  who's best prepared to be commander -in -chief.
• 26:17
  who has the experience, who has the knowledge,
• 26:19
  who has the judgment, who has the clarity of
• 26:21
  vision and strength of resolve to keep this country
• 26:23
  safe. That is what this debate is all about.
• 26:26
  And I would suggest let's stay focused on those
• 26:29
  issues rather than just attacks directed at each
• 26:32
  other. I think the questions were about issues,
• 26:35
  but Senator Rubio, what would you like to say?
• 26:37
  First of all, I'd like to respond. Let me go
• 26:41
  first, and then you can please recognize Rand
• 26:43
  after. Thank you. First of all, don't worry.
• 26:50
  I'm not leaving the stage no matter what you
• 26:51
  ask me. And second of all, and I think, you know,
• 26:58
  Governor Jeb, the attack, the authorization that
• 27:01
  Barack Obama asked for was not against ISIS.
• 27:03
  It was against Assad. And John Kerry described
• 27:06
  it as attacks that would be unbelievably small.
• 27:08
  I don't think the United States should be engaged
• 27:10
  in symbolic military activity. So it was not
• 27:13
  against ISIS. It was against Assad. I think the
• 27:16
  United States military is already operating under
• 27:19
  rules of engagement that are too strict and that
• 27:21
  do not allow us to pursue victory. When I'm president,
• 27:23
  that will change. Senator Paul, go ahead. Thank
• 27:27
  you. The issue in Syria is a very important one,
• 27:30
  and it's one we need to get right. The question
• 27:33
  is, should we be bombing both sides of the war?
• 27:35
  Some want to topple Assad. In fact, they want
• 27:38
  to bomb ISIS and Assad simultaneously. I think
• 27:41
  that's a really, really bad idea. In fact, I've
• 27:44
  said for several years that arming the allies
• 27:46
  of ISIS will make the situation worse, that what
• 27:49
  we really need to do is defeat ISIS. But if you
• 27:53
  defeat Assad, what you will wind up with is a
• 27:56
  larger and more powerful ISIS that occupies that
• 27:58
  space, you may well see an ISIS that takes over
• 28:01
  all of Syria. There was a question about foreign
• 28:10
  policy, by the way, and experience. And I thought
• 28:12
  if I didn't jump in, I might not be able to tell
• 28:14
  everybody this. I think they'd want to hear it.
• 28:16
  Look, I served on— No, we'll be talking about
• 28:18
  foreign policy a little bit later. We're going
• 28:20
  to talk— We have a lot to cover, but we want
• 28:21
  to turn the page to domestic terror. But wait
• 28:23
  a minute. The only reason is— No, no, no, because
• 28:25
  we want to turn the page to domestic terror,
• 28:26
  and let me tell you why. We're partnering with
• 28:28
  Google on this debate, and they're telling us
• 28:30
  that their search results have gone through the
• 28:32
  roof. I always listen to you, Megan. Go ahead.
• 28:34
  You're a good man, Governor Kasich. People, the
• 28:36
  search results, the searches for terror issues,
• 28:39
  for safety issues in America have gone through
• 28:42
  the roof, increased over 400 % since 2008. People
• 28:45
  are worried. They're worried about what's happening
• 28:47
  in the country and about a domestic terror attack,
• 28:49
  as all of you know. Now, in combating this threat,
• 28:51
  Senator Rubio, you've advocated closing down
• 28:55
  mosques. We'll get back to you. You have advocated
• 28:57
  closing down, closing down mosques, diners, any
• 29:01
  place where radicalization is occurring. You
• 29:03
  told me that. But the Supreme Court has made
• 29:05
  clear that hateful speech is generally protected
• 29:08
  by the First Amendment. In other words, radical
• 29:12
  Muslims have the right to be radical Muslims
• 29:14
  unless they turn to terror. Doesn't your position
• 29:18
  run afoul of the First Amendment? Megan, that's
• 29:20
  the problem. Radical Muslims and radical Islam
• 29:22
  is not just hate talk. It's hate action. They
• 29:24
  blow people up. Look what they did in San Bernardino.
• 29:27
  Look at the attack they inspired in Philadelphia
• 29:29
  that the White House still refuses to link to
• 29:31
  terror. Where a guy basically shot a police officer
• 29:34
  three times, he told the police, I did it because
• 29:37
  I was inspired by ISIS. And to this day, the
• 29:40
  White House still refuses to acknowledge that
• 29:42
  it had anything to do with terror. Look, the
• 29:44
  threat we face from ISIS is unprecedented. There
• 29:47
  has never been a jihadist group like this. They
• 29:49
  have affiliates in over a dozen countries now.
• 29:51
  They are the best -funded radical jihadist group
• 29:54
  in the history of the world. And they have shown
• 29:56
  a sophisticated understanding of the laws of
• 29:58
  other countries, on how to insert fighters into
• 30:00
  places, and they are actively plotting to attack
• 30:02
  us here at home and around the world. We must
• 30:05
  keep America safe from this threat. And yes,
• 30:07
  when I am president of the United States, if
• 30:09
  there is some place in this country where radical
• 30:11
  jihadists are planning to attack the United States,
• 30:14
  we will go after them wherever they are. And
• 30:16
  if we capture them alive, they are going to Guantanamo.
• 30:20
  Senator Paul, do you agree with that? We're going
• 30:22
  to close down mosques. We're going to close down
• 30:24
  diners. No, I think that's a huge mistake to
• 30:27
  be closing down mosques. But I would say that
• 30:29
  if you want to defend the country, it begins
• 30:31
  with border security. And this is where I've
• 30:32
  had my disagreement with Senator Rubio. When
• 30:35
  he brought forward the Gang of Eight bill to
• 30:37
  give citizenship to those who came here illegally,
• 30:39
  I put forward an amendment that says we should
• 30:42
  have more scrutiny on those who are coming as
• 30:45
  students, those who are coming as immigrants,
• 30:46
  those who are coming as refugees, because we
• 30:49
  had two refugees come to my town in Bowling Green
• 30:51
  and try to attack us. Marco opposed this because
• 30:54
  they made a deal. He made a deal with Chuck Schumer
• 30:57
  that he would oppose any conservative amendments,
• 30:59
  and I think that's a mistake, and I just don't
• 31:01
  think Marco can have it both ways. You can't
• 31:03
  be in favor of defending us against Islam, radical
• 31:05
  Islam, if you're not for border security. I don't
• 31:13
  know of anyone who's not in favor of fully vetting
• 31:15
  people that are trying to come to this country
• 31:16
  other than perhaps Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
• 31:19
  I think we all support that. Rand's amendment
• 31:21
  was not the right way to do it. I do believe
• 31:23
  that people who are trying to come to the United
• 31:25
  States, this country has a right to know who
• 31:27
  they are and why they are coming. And that's
• 31:29
  why I've been very clear. When I am the president
• 31:31
  of the United States of America, we don't know
• 31:33
  who you are and we don't know why you're trying
• 31:35
  to come to the United States. You are not going
• 31:37
  to get in because the radical threat that we
• 31:39
  now face from ISIS is extraordinary and unprecedented.
• 31:42
  And when I'm president, we are keeping ISIS out
• 31:44
  of America. Governor Christie, let's talk about
• 31:46
  profiling. In December, profiling, profiling.
• 31:49
  In December, two radical Muslims killed 14 people
• 31:52
  in San Bernardino, California. Neighbors of the
• 31:55
  terrorists said that they did not report the
• 31:57
  couple to law enforcement prior to the crime
• 32:00
  because they were afraid that they would be accused
• 32:02
  of profiling. Now, you have said that we should
• 32:04
  not profile. How do you square that with the
• 32:06
  San Bernardino case? Well, because you can do
• 32:09
  it without profiling, Megan. You do it on the
• 32:11
  facts. What those folks knew? was that these
• 32:15
  folks had weapons. They knew that they were talking
• 32:18
  about trying to take our country and attack it.
• 32:20
  That's not profiling. That's law enforcement.
• 32:23
  And that's the difference between somebody who
• 32:25
  knows how to do this and somebody who's never
• 32:27
  done it before. They didn't know they were going
• 32:28
  to attack the country. They knew they were talking
• 32:30
  about the issues of attacking people, Megan.
• 32:33
  They knew that. No, that's not true. The neighbors
• 32:35
  said they saw men going in and out of the garage.
• 32:39
  They saw packages being delivered. They saw Muslims.
• 32:42
  And they did not think that. That was enough
• 32:44
  to call the cops. Do you? Listen, I think that
• 32:47
  what people should do is use their common sense.
• 32:49
  And the fact is, let law enforcement make those
• 32:51
  decisions. I told people that from the time I
• 32:53
  was U .S. attorney 13 years ago. It's not for
• 32:56
  them to make those decisions about whether or
• 32:58
  not something is legal or illegal or profiling
• 33:00
  or not. You see something that's suspicious,
• 33:02
  you call law enforcement and let law enforcement
• 33:04
  make those decisions. That's what should be done.
• 33:07
  That can be done. It can be done without profiling
• 33:09
  people. What that is, is just common sense. They
• 33:11
  thought something was wrong. And here's the problem
• 33:13
  in this country right now. The problem is that
• 33:15
  Barack Obama has made law enforcement the enemy.
• 33:18
  Hillary Clinton has made law enforcement the
• 33:20
  enemy. We're not supporting our law enforcement
• 33:22
  officers. It's making everybody nervous to get
• 33:24
  out of their cars. If you're a law enforcement
• 33:26
  officer, it's making people in neighborhoods
• 33:28
  nervous to go to law enforcement. As president,
• 33:30
  I will support law enforcement, and we will stop
• 33:33
  radical terrorist attacks in this country by
• 33:35
  supporting our intelligence community and our
• 33:37
  law enforcement community. This week, a female
• 33:40
  Muslim who served in the U .S. Air Force asked
• 33:44
  Hillary Clinton the question. She asked whether
• 33:46
  the United States is still the best place in
• 33:47
  which to raise her three Muslim children, given
• 33:50
  what she perceives as a rise in Islamophobia
• 33:53
  in this country. Do you think that the GOP messaging
• 33:56
  on Muslims has stoked the flames of bias on this,
• 33:59
  as the Democrats suggest? And how would you answer
• 34:02
  this veteran? Well, I don't know about the GOP
• 34:06
  messaging, but I can tell you about my messaging.
• 34:08
  You know, we need to stop allowing political
• 34:12
  correctness to dictate our policies because it's
• 34:15
  going to kill us if we don't. And, you know,
• 34:19
  in the Holy Land Foundation trial in 2006 in
• 34:22
  Texas, you know, they had a memorandum, an explanatory
• 34:28
  memorandum, that talked about the fact that Americans
• 34:33
  would be easy to overcome and to commit civilization
• 34:36
  jihad because they, We're going to be trying
• 34:40
  to protect the rights of the very people who
• 34:43
  are trying to subvert them. But, you know, I
• 34:45
  believe in a Teddy Roosevelt philosophy. Teddy
• 34:47
  Roosevelt said, we are a nation of immigrants.
• 34:50
  As such, everybody is welcome from any race,
• 34:54
  any country, any religion, if they want to be
• 34:57
  Americans, if they want to accept our values
• 35:00
  and our laws. If not, they can stay where they
• 35:02
  are. Governor Kasich, see, I'm back. You appear
• 35:09
  to be back. in another debate, a so -called backdoor,
• 35:14
  to encrypted cell phone technology, which protects
• 35:18
  most smartphones that we all have from hacking.
• 35:21
  And it includes our phones, and it also protects
• 35:23
  the cell phones of the terrorists. Now, the tech
• 35:25
  companies and a group of MIT scientists, smart
• 35:27
  guys, right, warn that if they create a way for
• 35:29
  the FBI... to have a backdoor into our encrypted
• 35:32
  communications, then the bad guys will exploit
• 35:35
  it too. And they say that this is going to cause
• 35:36
  more security problems than it would solve for
• 35:38
  everyday Americans. Are they wrong? Well, look,
• 35:40
  the Joint Terrorism Task Forces need resources
• 35:43
  and they need tools. And those are made up of
• 35:45
  the FBI, state and local law enforcement. And
• 35:48
  Megan, it's best not to talk anymore about backdoors
• 35:51
  and encryption. It'll get solved, but it needs
• 35:53
  to be solved in the situation room of the White
• 35:55
  House with the technology folks. This is public
• 35:57
  testimony. But I just have to tell you that it's...
• 36:00
  best with some of these things not be said. Now
• 36:02
  I want to go back to something. See I was there
• 36:05
  when Reagan rebuilt the military. I was there
• 36:07
  in 89 when the wall came tumbling down because
• 36:10
  we were strong. And I was there when we went
• 36:12
  in the Gulf War and we didn't win that war just
• 36:14
  from the air. We won that war by assembling a
• 36:17
  group of Arab leaders who stood in the Rose Garden
• 36:19
  and stood with America. We want to destroy ISIS.
• 36:22
  It has to be in the air and on the ground. It
• 36:24
  has to be with our friends in the Arab world
• 36:27
  and our friends in Europe, the coalition that
• 36:30
  we had when we went to the first Gulf War. And
• 36:32
  then when we win that, and we will win that against
• 36:34
  ISIS as it settles down, we should leave because
• 36:37
  we shouldn't be policemen of the world. But what
• 36:39
  we need to do is turn it over to the regional
• 36:41
  powers to be able to handle that. But we have
• 36:44
  a unique time in America to connect with people
• 36:46
  all around the world that understand. that there's
• 36:49
  an existential threat against all of them. The
• 36:52
  Arabs, the Jordanians, the Saudis, the Egyptians,
• 36:55
  our friends in Europe, and including the Turks.
• 36:58
  So we have a unique opportunity to bring everybody
• 37:00
  together. I saw Reagan do it. I've seen other
• 37:03
  presidents do it. And frankly, if you want to
• 37:06
  be commander -in -chief, you have to have the
• 37:08
  experience. At the same time we're doing all
• 37:10
  that, the Pentagon must be reformed so we get
• 37:13
  what we need for our men and women in uniform.
• 37:16
  All of that together? We're going to be just
• 37:18
  fine, and America is going to continue to lead
• 37:21
  the world. Governor, thank you. Governor Bush,
• 37:23
  just today, a Wounded Warrior organization designed
• 37:26
  to help wounded veterans and their families is
• 37:30
  coming under fire for raising tens of millions
• 37:32
  of dollars, but spending almost half of that
• 37:34
  on travel and hotels and dinners and luxury,
• 37:38
  lavish conferences. So taking care of veterans
• 37:41
  is obviously a huge issue in the country that
• 37:43
  has asked so many to serve and sacrifice so much.
• 37:45
  If you were president, would you police these
• 37:48
  charity organizations that say they're helping
• 37:51
  vets? Of course, and there's all sorts of ways
• 37:54
  that can be done at the state, local, and federal
• 37:56
  level to do that. But the first duty of the next
• 37:58
  president of the United States is to fix the
• 38:00
  mess of the Department of Veterans Affairs. That's
• 38:02
  his first responsibility. Look, we have waiting
• 38:06
  lists for veterans that are leaving because of
• 38:08
  the sequester where we're gutting the military.
• 38:10
  More and more military personnel are leaving.
• 38:14
  becoming veterans, and the waiting list grows,
• 38:16
  they've given out $140 million of bonuses to
• 38:19
  veterans department employees, including reducing
• 38:23
  the waiting list without giving veterans care.
• 38:25
  People died, and only three people have been
• 38:28
  fired. I will make sure that we fire the sheer
• 38:31
  incompetence inside the Department of Veterans
• 38:33
  Affairs, and that we'll give veterans a choice
• 38:35
  card so that they don't have to travel hours
• 38:37
  and hours to get care if they want to go to their
• 38:39
  private provider. You want to make the Veterans
• 38:41
  Administration do a better job? Give veterans
• 38:44
  choices and you'll get a much better result.
• 38:46
  And as it relates to all the other organizations,
• 38:49
  let me give you a good example. In Houston, Texas,
• 38:51
  there's an organization in place because someone
• 38:53
  acted on their heart, wanted to make sure that
• 38:55
  there's no homeless veterans in Houston. And
• 38:58
  they've come pretty close to that. Without federal
• 39:00
  government assistance, we need to mobilize the
• 39:02
  entire country to deal with our veterans and
• 39:04
  treat them with much more respect than they get
• 39:06
  today. Governor Bush, thank you. Speaking of
• 39:08
  veterans. We have a question from a veteran who
• 39:12
  is one of the top YouTube creators. Over the
• 39:15
  course of the evening, gentlemen, we will hear
• 39:17
  from some of YouTube's most followed stars. And
• 39:20
  here's one of them. I'm Mark Watson. I'm known
• 39:28
  for my tech reviews on YouTube, but I'm also
• 39:30
  a veteran who served in the Army for eight years.
• 39:32
  As an African -American living near Ferguson,
• 39:34
  I've seen the strain between police officers
• 39:36
  and the communities they serve firsthand. Now,
• 39:39
  there are great tools like body cameras that
• 39:41
  can protect both officers and citizens, but we
• 39:44
  all currently have better cameras in our pockets
• 39:46
  than in our precincts. Why aren't we using the
• 39:49
  technology available to better protect our communities?
• 39:52
  Senator Paul, that question to you. You know,
• 39:55
  I've supported legislation to allow body cameras.
• 39:58
  I've been to Ferguson. I've been trying to look
• 40:00
  for solutions to our criminal justice problem.
• 40:02
  One thing I discovered in Ferguson was that a
• 40:05
  third of the budget for the city of Ferguson
• 40:08
  was being reaped by civil fines. People were
• 40:11
  just being fined to death. Now, you and I and
• 40:14
  many of the people in this audience, if we get
• 40:15
  a $100 fine, we can survive it. If you're living
• 40:18
  on the edge of poverty, you get a $100 fine or
• 40:20
  you're car towed, a lot of times you lose your
• 40:21
  job. I also think the war on drugs has disproportionately
• 40:24
  affected our African -American community. And
• 40:27
  what we need to do is make sure that the war
• 40:29
  on drugs is equal protection under the law and
• 40:32
  that we don't unfairly incarcerate another generation
• 40:34
  of young African -American males. In Ferguson,
• 40:38
  for every 100 African -American women, there
• 40:40
  are only 60 African -American men. Drug use is
• 40:43
  about equal between white and black, but our
• 40:45
  prisons, three out of four people in prison are
• 40:47
  black or brown. I think something has to change.
• 40:49
  I think it's a big thing that our party needs
• 40:51
  to be part of. And I've been a leader in Congress
• 40:53
  on trying to bring about criminal justice reform.
• 40:56
  Senator Paul, thank you. And search Fox News
• 41:12
  Debate to vote on which... Some questions about
• 41:14
  federal spending and the role of the federal
• 41:15
  government. Everybody always says they want to
• 41:17
  cut federal spending, and usually they start
• 41:19
  by saying they'll cut waste, fraud, and abuse,
• 41:22
  but that really doesn't ever materialize. We
• 41:24
  all know that. Governor Christie, you talk a
• 41:26
  lot about entitlement reform, and you say that
• 41:29
  that's where the federal government can get savings
• 41:31
  needed to balance the budget. But can you name
• 41:34
  even one thing that the federal government does
• 41:37
  now that it should not do at all? Yeah. You want
• 41:40
  one? I want one. How about one that I've done
• 41:44
  in New Jersey for the last six years, and that's
• 41:46
  get rid of Planned Parenthood funding for the
• 41:48
  United States of America. Anything bigger than
• 41:53
  that? Bigger than that? Let me tell you something.
• 41:56
  When you see thousands upon thousands upon thousands
• 41:59
  of children being murdered in the womb, I can't
• 42:01
  think of anything bigger than that. Thank you,
• 42:05
  Governor. I realize everyone on this stage opposes
• 42:07
  Obamacare, and you're not alone. Google data
• 42:10
  shows that in the last month, when people searched
• 42:13
  policy repeals, that there were a lot of them.
• 42:17
  Obamacare took the top two spots. But today,
• 42:20
  there are millions of people who gained health
• 42:22
  insurance from Obamacare, and they now rely on
• 42:25
  it. So the question, Senator Cruz, if you repeal
• 42:29
  Obamacare, as you say you will, will you be fine
• 42:32
  if millions of those people don't have health
• 42:35
  insurance? And what is your specific plan? for
• 42:38
  covering the uninsured? Sure. Well, let's take
• 42:41
  it one at a time. First of all, we have seen
• 42:44
  now in six years of Obamacare that it's been
• 42:46
  a disaster. It is the biggest job killer in this
• 42:48
  country. Millions of Americans have lost their
• 42:50
  jobs, have been forced into part -time work,
• 42:52
  have lost their health insurance, have lost their
• 42:55
  doctors, have seen their premiums skyrocket.
• 42:58
  If I am elected president, we will repeal every
• 43:02
  word of Obamacare. Once that is done, everyone
• 43:10
  agrees we need healthcare reform. It should follow
• 43:12
  the principles of expanding competition, empowering
• 43:15
  patients, and keeping government from getting
• 43:18
  in between us and our doctors. Three specific
• 43:20
  reforms that reflect those principles. Number
• 43:23
  one, we should allow people to purchase health
• 43:25
  insurance across state lines. That'll create...
• 43:29
  A true 50 -state national marketplace which will
• 43:31
  drive down the cost of low -cost, catastrophic
• 43:34
  health insurance. Number two, we should expand
• 43:37
  health savings accounts so people can save in
• 43:40
  a tax -advantaged way for more routine health
• 43:42
  care needs. And number three, we should work
• 43:45
  to de -link health insurance from employment
• 43:47
  so if you lose your job, your health insurance
• 43:50
  goes with you, and it is personal, portable,
• 43:53
  and affordable. And I'll tell you, Brad, I think
• 43:55
  that's a much more attractive vision for health.
• 43:58
  than the Washington -driven, top -down Obamacare
• 44:01
  that is causing so many millions of people to
• 44:03
  hurt. Senator Cruz, thank you. Governor Bush,
• 44:05
  you've advocated for statehood for Puerto Rico.
• 44:09
  The Puerto Rican economy is collapsing under
• 44:12
  unsustainable debt burden. Only about 1 million
• 44:16
  of its 4 million residents are currently employed.
• 44:19
  So should American citizens, who you say are
• 44:22
  already overtaxed, bail out Puerto Rico as well?
• 44:26
  No, they shouldn't. Puerto Rico ought to have
• 44:29
  the right of self -determination. If I was a
• 44:31
  Puerto Rican, I'd vote for statehood so that
• 44:33
  they have full citizenship. They serve in the
• 44:35
  military. They would have to pay federal taxes.
• 44:37
  They would accept the responsibilities of full
• 44:40
  U .S. citizenship. But they should have the right
• 44:42
  of self -determination. Before you get to that,
• 44:45
  though, Puerto Rico is going to have to deal
• 44:47
  with the structural problems they face. It's
• 44:50
  a fact that if you can pay for a $79 one -way
• 44:53
  ticket to Orlando and you can escape the challenges
• 44:56
  of a declining economy and high crime rates,
• 44:59
  you move to Orlando. And a lot of people are
• 45:01
  doing that and the spiraling out of control requires
• 45:03
  Puerto Rico to make structural reforms. Federal
• 45:05
  government can play a role in allowing them to
• 45:08
  do that, but they should not, the process of
• 45:11
  statehood or the status of Puerto Rico won't
• 45:13
  be solved until we get to the bigger issue of
• 45:15
  how you deal with the structural economic problems
• 45:17
  they're facing right now. Governor Kasich, you're
• 45:19
  one of two remaining sitting governors still
• 45:22
  in the race. Your colleague, Governor Rick Snyder
• 45:25
  in Michigan, is under fire, he and his administration,
• 45:28
  for the Flint, Michigan water crisis and the
• 45:30
  botched response to it. How would you have handled
• 45:33
  that? Well, you've got to be on top of it right
• 45:35
  away. And, you know, I don't know all the details
• 45:37
  of what Rick Snyder has done. I know there have
• 45:41
  been people who have been fired, people who are
• 45:43
  being held accountable. But the fact is, every
• 45:46
  single engine of government has to move when
• 45:48
  you see a crisis like that. And I've had many
• 45:51
  situations in the state of Ohio where we've had
• 45:54
  to move, whether it's storms. whether it was
• 45:57
  a horrible school shooting. There are many crises
• 46:00
  that come, a water crisis in Toledo. You've got
• 46:03
  to be on top of it. You've got to go the extra
• 46:05
  mile. You've got to work with local communities
• 46:07
  and you've got to work with the federal government
• 46:09
  because you realize that people are depending
• 46:12
  on you. And so you go the extra mile, but people
• 46:15
  have to be alert. They have to be alert to problems.
• 46:18
  And when you see a problem, you must act quickly
• 46:20
  to get on top of it. And people at home are saying
• 46:24
  they've got a problem. listen to them because
• 46:26
  most of the time they're absolutely correct.
• 46:29
  So the fact is, is that we work for the people.
• 46:31
  The people don't work for us. And we have to
• 46:33
  have an attitude when we're in government of
• 46:36
  servanthood. That's what really matters. We serve
• 46:39
  you. You don't serve us. We listen to you. And
• 46:42
  and then we act. Senator Rubio. On the issue
• 46:46
  of climate change, in 2008 you wanted Florida
• 46:49
  to get ahead of other states and establish a
• 46:52
  cap -and -trade system, a program for carbon
• 46:55
  emissions, which many Republicans thought at
• 46:57
  the time would hurt the Florida economy. Now
• 47:00
  you're a skeptic of climate change science, and
• 47:03
  in fact you warn that federal efforts to fight
• 47:05
  climate change will cost U .S. jobs and hurt
• 47:08
  the U .S. economy. So why the change? Well, Brett,
• 47:11
  first, that's not entirely the story. At the
• 47:13
  time, the liberal governor of Florida, who claimed
• 47:15
  he was a Republican, his name was Charlie Crist,
• 47:17
  he wanted to impose cap and trade on Florida,
• 47:19
  and I opposed him. I was the first person out
• 47:21
  of the box that opposed him on it. And then we
• 47:23
  saw that the leading candidates for president
• 47:25
  at the time, both the Republican and the Democrats,
• 47:27
  all supported it. And what we said is, if they're
• 47:29
  going to impose this on us, we better prepare
• 47:31
  to protect the state from it. But I have never
• 47:33
  supported cap and trade, and I never thought
• 47:35
  it was a good idea. And I was clear about that
• 47:37
  at the time. And I do not believe it's... a good
• 47:39
  idea now. I do not believe that we have to destroy
• 47:41
  our economy in order to protect our environment.
• 47:44
  And especially with these programs are asking
• 47:46
  us to pass that will do nothing to help the environment,
• 47:49
  but will be devastating for our economy. When
• 47:51
  I am president of the United States of America,
• 47:53
  there will never be any cap and trade in the
• 47:55
  United States. Thank you, Senator. All right,
• 47:59
  we're going to move on because coming up, immigration
• 48:02
  and something you've never seen before. Stay
• 48:05
  tuned right after this break. And now we move
• 48:22
  on to the topic of immigration. Senator Rubio,
• 48:25
  we start with you. When you ran for Senate in
• 48:27
  2010, you made clear that you opposed legalization
• 48:30
  and citizenship for illegal immigrants. You promised
• 48:33
  repeatedly that you would oppose it as a U .S.
• 48:36
  senator as well. Here are just a few examples.
• 48:39
  Watch. Never support, never have, and never will
• 48:41
  support any effort to grant blanket legalization
• 48:45
  amnesty to folks who have entered or stayed in
• 48:47
  this country illegally. First of all, earned
• 48:49
  path to citizenship is basically code for amnesty.
• 48:52
  It's what they call it. And the reality of it
• 48:54
  is this. It is unfair to the people that have
• 48:56
  legally entered this country to create an alternative
• 48:58
  pathway for individuals who entered illegally
• 49:00
  and knowingly did so. You cannot grant amnesty.
• 49:03
  If the American people see us grant amnesty,
• 49:04
  they will never again believe in legal immigration.
• 49:07
  They will never again support it. And that's
• 49:08
  wrong for our country, bad for our future. Within
• 49:11
  two years of getting elected, you were co -sponsoring
• 49:14
  legislation to create a path to citizenship.
• 49:16
  In your words, amnesty. Haven't you already proven
• 49:20
  that you cannot be trusted on this issue? No,
• 49:22
  because if you look at the quote, and it's very
• 49:23
  specific, and it says, blanket amnesty. I do
• 49:26
  not support blanket amnesty. I do not support
• 49:27
  amnesty. You said more than that, sir. No, I
• 49:29
  said I do not support blanket legalization. You
• 49:31
  said earned path to citizenship is basically
• 49:33
  code for amnesty. It was. You supported earned
• 49:35
  path to citizenship. It absolutely has been.
• 49:36
  And at the time and the context of that was in
• 49:38
  2009 and 2010, where the last effort for legalization
• 49:42
  was an effort done in the Senate. It was an effort
• 49:44
  led by several people that provided almost an
• 49:46
  instant path with very little obstacles moving
• 49:48
  forward. What I've always said is this issue
• 49:50
  does need to be solved. They've been talking
• 49:52
  about this issue for 30 years and nothing ever
• 49:55
  happens. And I'm going to tell you exactly how
• 49:57
  we're going to deal with it when I am president.
• 49:58
  Number one, we're going to keep ISIS out of America.
• 50:01
  If we don't know who you are or why you're coming,
• 50:03
  you will not get into the United States. Number
• 50:05
  two, we are going to enforce our immigration
• 50:07
  laws. I am the son and the grandson of immigrants,
• 50:10
  and I know that securing our borders is not anti
• 50:12
  -immigrant, and we will do it. We will hire 20
• 50:15
  ,000 new border agents instead of 20 ,000 new
• 50:17
  IRS agents. We will finish the 700 miles of fencing
• 50:20
  and walls our nation needs. We'll have mandatory
• 50:22
  e -verify. a mandatory entry -exit tracking system.
• 50:26
  And until all of that is in place and all of
• 50:29
  that is working and we can prove to the people
• 50:30
  of this country that illegal immigration is under
• 50:33
  control, nothing else is going to happen. We
• 50:35
  are not going to round up and deport 12 million
• 50:37
  people, but we're not going to go around handing
• 50:38
  out citizenship cards either. There will be a
• 50:41
  process. We will see what the American people
• 50:43
  are willing to support, but it will not be unconstitutional
• 50:46
  executive orders like the ones Barack Obama has
• 50:48
  forced on us. Governor Bush, do you agree that
• 50:49
  Senator Rubio has not reversed himself on his
• 50:52
  immigration promise? I'm kind of confused because
• 50:55
  he was the sponsor of the Gang of Eight bill
• 50:57
  that did require a bunch of thresholds, but ultimately
• 51:01
  allowed for citizenship over an extended period
• 51:04
  of time. I mean, that's a fact. And he asked
• 51:07
  me to support that. And I supported him because
• 51:10
  I think people, when you're elected, you need
• 51:13
  to do things. And he led the charge to finally
• 51:15
  fix this immigration problem that has existed
• 51:17
  now, as Marco says, for 30 years. And then he
• 51:21
  cut and run because it wasn't popular amongst
• 51:22
  conservatives, I guess. Here's what I believe.
• 51:25
  And I wrote a book about this called Immigration
• 51:27
  Wars. You can get it at $2 .99 on Amazon. It's
• 51:29
  not a bestseller, I can promise you. There won't
• 51:32
  be any. You can get it. It's affordable for everybody.
• 51:35
  We should have a path to legal status for the
• 51:38
  12 million people that are here illegally. It
• 51:41
  means come out from the shadows, pay a fine,
• 51:43
  earn legal status by working, by paying taxes,
• 51:46
  learning English, not committing crimes, and
• 51:48
  earn legal status where you're not cutting in
• 51:51
  front of the line for people that are patiently
• 51:53
  waiting outside. I think that's the conservative
• 51:57
  consensus, pragmatic approach to how to solve
• 51:59
  this problem. Go ahead, Senator. It's interesting
• 52:01
  that Jeb mentions the book. That is the book
• 52:03
  where you changed your position on immigration
• 52:05
  because you used to support a path to citizenship.
• 52:07
  So did you. Well, but you changed the book. So
• 52:10
  did you, Marco. You wrote a book where you changed
• 52:12
  your position from a path to citizenship to a
• 52:17
  path to legalization. And the bottom line is
• 52:19
  this. We are not going to be able to do anything
• 52:21
  on this issue until we first bring illegal immigration
• 52:24
  under control. The American people have been
• 52:26
  told for 30 years they're going to enforce the
• 52:28
  border, they're going to build the wall, and
• 52:29
  it never gets built, and it never happens. It
• 52:31
  is very clear there will be no progress on this
• 52:34
  issue in any way, shape, or form until you prove
• 52:36
  to the people of this country that illegal immigration
• 52:39
  is under control. And when I'm president, we
• 52:41
  are going to bring it under control once and
• 52:43
  for all after 30 years of talking about it. Marco,
• 52:46
  Marco, he brought up my name. I have supported
• 52:50
  a consensus approach to solving this problem
• 52:52
  wherever it came up. And then 2007, it almost
• 52:55
  passed when my brother was president of the United
• 52:57
  States. A bipartisan approach got close. Barack
• 52:59
  Obama actually had the poison pill to stop it
• 53:02
  then. And when you led the charge with the gang
• 53:04
  of eight, I supported it because you asked me
• 53:06
  to. I think it's important for people in elected
• 53:08
  office to try to forge consensus to solve problems.
• 53:11
  There's never going to be a perfect bill. But
• 53:14
  when you didn't do that, and you asked people
• 53:16
  to support, you shouldn't cut and run. You should
• 53:19
  stick with it. And that's exactly what happened.
• 53:21
  He cut and run, and that's a tragedy, because
• 53:23
  now it's harder and harder to actually solve
• 53:25
  this problem. There's not going to be any consensus
• 53:27
  on this issue until we enforce our immigration
• 53:29
  law. That is abundantly clear. You are not going
• 53:32
  to be able to ram down the throat of the American
• 53:34
  people your approach. The only way we're going
• 53:36
  to be able to move forward after two migratory
• 53:39
  crisis with minors, after two unconstitutional
• 53:41
  executive orders, the only way forward... forward
• 53:44
  on this issue is to first bring illegal immigration
• 53:46
  under control. And until that happens, there's
• 53:48
  not going to be any consensus on this issue.
• 53:50
  Let's move on. Senator Cruz, when Senator Rubio
• 53:53
  proposed that bill creating a path to citizenship,
• 53:55
  you proposed an amendment. It would have allowed
• 53:58
  for legalization, but not citizenship. Yes, it
• 54:01
  would. Press last month on why you supported
• 54:04
  legalization, you claimed that you didn't, right?
• 54:06
  Like you just did. I saw that. You argued that
• 54:09
  this was just a poison pill amendment, basically
• 54:11
  something designed to kill the bill and not actually
• 54:14
  get it through. But that is not, however, how
• 54:17
  it sounded at the time. Watch. I want this bill
• 54:21
  to be voted down. I don't want immigration reform
• 54:23
  to fail. I want immigration reform to pass. I
• 54:27
  believe if this amendment were to pass, the chances
• 54:30
  of this bill passing into law would increase
• 54:32
  dramatically. I believe if the amendments I introduced
• 54:36
  were adopted, that the bill would pass. And my
• 54:38
  effort in introducing them was to find a solution
• 54:43
  that reflected common ground and that fixed the
• 54:49
  problem. If the proponents of this bill actually
• 54:51
  demonstrate a commitment not to politics, not
• 54:54
  to campaigning all the time, but to actually
• 54:56
  fixing this problem, to finding a middle ground,
• 55:00
  that would fix the problem and also allow for
• 55:05
  those 11 million people who are here illegally
• 55:07
  a legal status. with citizenship off the table.
• 55:12
  Was that all an act? It was pretty convincing.
• 55:15
  You know, the amendment you're talking about
• 55:17
  is one sentence. It's 38 words. Anyone can go
• 55:19
  online at tedcruz .org and read exactly what
• 55:22
  it said. In those 38 words, it said anyone here
• 55:25
  illegally is permanently ineligible for citizenship.
• 55:28
  It didn't say a word about legalization. But
• 55:31
  the bill allowed both. The bill you were amending
• 55:33
  allowed citizenship and legalization. But, Megan.
• 55:35
  The bill was a thousand pages. I introduced a
• 55:38
  series of amendments, each designed to fix problems
• 55:40
  in the bill. The fact that each amendment didn't
• 55:43
  fix every problem didn't mean that I supported
• 55:45
  the rest of the bill. And I'll tell you who supported
• 55:48
  my amendment. Jeff Sessions, the strongest opponent
• 55:51
  of amnesty in the United States Congress. And
• 55:54
  he did so because taking citizenship off the
• 55:56
  table was important. And it revealed the hypocrisy
• 56:00
  of the proponents of this bill who were looking
• 56:03
  for votes. Listen. We can solve immigration.
• 56:05
  We just heard an argument back and forth that
• 56:07
  we can't solve immigration. I have a detailed
• 56:09
  immigration plan that is on my website, tedcruz
• 56:12
  .org. It was designed with Iowa's own Congressman
• 56:15
  Steve King and Jeff Sessions. And we have the
• 56:19
  tools in federal law to do this now. We can build
• 56:23
  the fence. We can triple the border patrol. We
• 56:25
  can end sanctuary cities by cutting off funding
• 56:28
  to them. We can end welfare for those here illegally.
• 56:31
  And what is missing... is the political will
• 56:34
  because too many Democrats and sadly too many
• 56:37
  Republicans don't want to solve this problem.
• 56:39
  If I am elected president, we will secure the
• 56:42
  borders and we will end illegal immigration.
• 56:44
  Senator Paul, you know how Washington works.
• 56:47
  Do you buy that? I was there and I saw the debate.
• 56:50
  I saw Ted Cruz say we'll take citizenship off
• 56:54
  the table. And then the bill will pass, and I'm
• 56:56
  for the bill. The bill would involve legalization.
• 56:59
  He can't have it both ways. But what is particularly
• 57:01
  insulting, though, is that he is the king of
• 57:05
  saying, oh, you're for amnesty. Everybody's for
• 57:07
  amnesty except for Ted Cruz. But it's a falseness,
• 57:10
  and that's an authenticity problem that everybody
• 57:13
  he knows is not as perfect as him because we're
• 57:16
  all for amnesty. I was for legalization. I think,
• 57:19
  frankly, if you have border security, you can
• 57:21
  have legalization. So was Ted, but now he says
• 57:23
  it wasn't so. That's not true. Go ahead, sir.
• 57:26
  John Adams famously said, facts are stubborn
• 57:33
  things. The facts are very, very simple. When
• 57:36
  that battle was waged... My friend Senator Rubio
• 57:40
  chose to stand with Barack Obama and Harry Reid
• 57:42
  and Chuck Schumer and support amnesty. And I
• 57:45
  stood alongside Jeff Sessions and Steve King
• 57:48
  and we led the fight against amnesty. And if
• 57:51
  you want to know who's telling the truth, you
• 57:53
  should look and ask people like Jeff Sessions
• 57:56
  and Steve King and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin,
• 57:58
  all of whom say, as Jeff Sessions said, responding
• 58:01
  to these false attacks just recently in Alabama,
• 58:04
  he said, if it wasn't for Ted Cruz, the Gang
• 58:06
  of Eight Rubio Schumer bill would have passed.
• 58:09
  But because Ted stood up and helped lead the
• 58:11
  effort, millions rose up to kill him. Even Chuck
• 58:16
  Schumer, your co -sponsor of that bill, agrees
• 58:18
  with Ted Cruz on this. I understand, but let
• 58:20
  me respond. I was mentioned in this answer, and
• 58:23
  so I'm going to respond this way. This is the
• 58:25
  lie that Ted's campaign is built on, and Rand
• 58:28
  touched upon it, that he's the most conservative
• 58:30
  guy and everyone else is a rhino. The truth is,
• 58:34
  Ted, throughout this campaign, you've been willing
• 58:35
  to say or do anything in order to get votes.
• 58:37
  Ted, you worked for George W. Bush's campaign.
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  You helped design George W. Bush's immigration
• 58:45
  policy. And then when you got to the Senate,
• 58:47
  you did an interview with CBS News that wasn't
• 58:50
  even part of the video where you said on the
• 58:51
  issue of people that are here illegally, we can
• 58:53
  reach a compromise. And then in the committee,
• 58:55
  you said, I want to bring people out of the shadows.
• 58:58
  Now you want to trump Trump on immigration. But
• 59:01
  we're not going to beat Hillary Clinton with
• 59:03
  someone who's willing to say or do anything to
• 59:05
  win an election. Go ahead, Senator Cruz. You
• 59:13
  know, I like Marco. He's very charming. He's
• 59:15
  very smooth. But the facts are simple. When he
• 59:18
  ran for election in the state of Florida, he
• 59:20
  told the people of Florida, if you elect me,
• 59:23
  I will lead the fight against amnesty. When I
• 59:25
  ran in Texas, I told the people of Texas, if
• 59:28
  you elect me, I will lead the fight against amnesty.
• 59:30
  We both made the identical promises. But when
• 59:33
  we came to Washington, we made a different choice.
• 59:35
  Marco made the choice to go the direction of
• 59:38
  the major donors to support amnesty because he
• 59:40
  thought it was politically advantageous. I honored
• 59:43
  my commitments, and as president, I will honor
• 59:46
  every commitment that I make to the men and women
• 59:49
  of this country. Go ahead, Governor Christie.
• 59:53
  I want to ask the people in the audience. I was
• 59:55
  standing here. I watched the video. of Senator
• 59:59
  Cruz. I watched the video of Senator Rubio. I
• 1:00:01
  heard what they said. And this is why you need
• 1:00:04
  to send someone from outside of Washington to
• 1:00:06
  Washington. I feel like—I feel like I need— I
• 1:00:12
  feel like I need a Washington to the English
• 1:00:14
  dictionary converter, right? I mean, I heard
• 1:00:17
  what they both said. I saw it on the video. And
• 1:00:19
  the fact is, this is what makes a difference
• 1:00:21
  when you're a governor. You can change your mind.
• 1:00:23
  Ted could change his mind. Marco could change
• 1:00:25
  his mind. It's perfectly legal in this country
• 1:00:27
  to change your mind. But when you're a governor,
• 1:00:30
  you have to admit it. You can't hide behind parliamentary
• 1:00:32
  tricks. That's the difference, and that's the
• 1:00:35
  kind of leader we need in the White House. Stop
• 1:00:36
  the Washington bull, and let's get things done.
• 1:00:43
  Let's get to a YouTube question. This is a question
• 1:00:45
  from a YouTube creator with over 2 million subscribers.
• 1:00:48
  Watch. I'm Dulce Candy, a YouTube creator who
• 1:00:56
  immigrated to the United States from Mexico when
• 1:00:59
  I was a little girl. Since then, I am proud to
• 1:01:01
  say that I served in the armed forces in Iraq,
• 1:01:04
  became a citizen, and I am now an entrepreneur.
• 1:01:06
  There are many immigrants who contribute positively
• 1:01:09
  to the American economy, but some of the comments
• 1:01:12
  in the campaign make us question our place in
• 1:01:14
  this country. If America does not seem like a
• 1:01:17
  welcoming place for immigrant entrepreneurs,
• 1:01:19
  will the American economy suffer? Dr. Carson,
• 1:01:23
  that one's for you. Oh, great. As I said before,
• 1:01:33
  we are a land of immigrants. But we have to be
• 1:01:36
  intelligent about the way that we form our immigration
• 1:01:41
  policies. And that's one of the reasons that
• 1:01:44
  I have called on us to declare war on the Islamic
• 1:01:48
  State. because we need to reorient our immigration
• 1:01:52
  policies and our visa policies for people who
• 1:01:56
  are coming into this country because there are
• 1:01:58
  many people out there who want to destroy us.
• 1:02:01
  Now, I recognize that the vast majority of people
• 1:02:05
  coming in here probably are not those kinds of
• 1:02:07
  people, but that's not good enough. If you've
• 1:02:10
  got ten people coming to your house and you know
• 1:02:12
  one of them is a terrorist, you're probably going
• 1:02:15
  to keep them all out. You know, we probably have
• 1:02:17
  to figure out a way to make sure that we keep
• 1:02:20
  America safe. I just, that beautiful young woman
• 1:02:27
  who's an entrepreneur who served in the military,
• 1:02:29
  first of all, is deserving of our respect for
• 1:02:31
  service in the military and the fact that she's
• 1:02:33
  an entrepreneur. And we should be a welcoming
• 1:02:36
  nation. Our identity is not based on race or
• 1:02:39
  ethnicity. It's based on a set of shared values.
• 1:02:42
  That's American citizenship. And Dulce Candy,
• 1:02:44
  pretty cool name actually, that is now an entrepreneur
• 1:02:47
  over the YouTube, is part of that American experience.
• 1:02:49
  And we should celebrate it as conservatives.
• 1:02:51
  That's what we believe in. You can deal with
• 1:02:54
  the threat of terror and also recognize that
• 1:02:57
  this country should be aspirational across the
• 1:02:59
  board. And I think that's the false choice in
• 1:03:03
  this whole debate about immigration. Of course
• 1:03:05
  we're going to be a nation of immigrants. By
• 1:03:06
  the way, no nation on earth is more generous
• 1:03:09
  than America is. Every single year, close to
• 1:03:11
  a million people immigrate to the United States
• 1:03:14
  legally. There's no nation on earth that comes
• 1:03:16
  close to that number. I think the only argument
• 1:03:18
  is, aren't we a sovereign country? Are we not
• 1:03:20
  allowed to choose who comes in, when they come
• 1:03:22
  in, and how they come in? And that's not what's
• 1:03:24
  happening now. I think the other problem is...
• 1:03:27
  We have a legal immigration system that's outdated.
• 1:03:29
  It is primarily based on whether you have family
• 1:03:31
  members living here. In the 21st century, it
• 1:03:34
  has to be more of a merit -based system. And
• 1:03:36
  that is why our legal immigration system is in
• 1:03:38
  need of modernization. And we will always celebrate
• 1:03:40
  legal immigration like Dulce's great story. All
• 1:03:42
  right, we're moving on. Gentlemen, we're going
• 1:03:44
  to turn now to what we call electability, issues
• 1:03:47
  that you're either facing in the primaries or
• 1:03:50
  issues that you're certainly going to face in
• 1:03:52
  a general election. So you may not be altogether
• 1:03:53
  unhappy if you're not included in this round.
• 1:03:57
  Senator Cruz, you pride yourself on standing
• 1:03:59
  up to the D .C. cartel, but as we've seen to
• 1:04:02
  a certain degree tonight, there's a price for
• 1:04:04
  standing up to the D .C. cartel. Thirteen Republican
• 1:04:07
  senators have endorsed other candidates. None
• 1:04:09
  have endorsed you. Twice last year, you asked
• 1:04:14
  for a colleague to second a motion, a routine
• 1:04:16
  courtesy. on the Senate floor, and no senator
• 1:04:19
  would do it. Top GOP officials worry that if
• 1:04:22
  you're at the top of the ticket, some officials,
• 1:04:24
  that not only will you lose the White House,
• 1:04:26
  but it will tank the ticket all the way down
• 1:04:29
  the line. Question is, does your style sometimes
• 1:04:31
  get in the way of your ability to get things
• 1:04:34
  done, sir? Well, Chris, you are exactly right
• 1:04:38
  that I am not the candidate of career politicians
• 1:04:41
  in Washington. And I'll tell you, the endorsements
• 1:04:47
  that I am proud of are the over 200 ,000 volunteers
• 1:04:51
  across this country who have signed up to volunteer
• 1:04:53
  for our campaign. The endorsements that I am
• 1:04:56
  proud of are leading conservatives like Iowa's
• 1:04:59
  own Congressman Steve King, who is a national
• 1:05:01
  co -chairman of my campaign. The endorsements
• 1:05:04
  that I'm proud of are conservative leaders like
• 1:05:07
  Dr. James Dobson. and over 700 ,000 contributions
• 1:05:11
  nationwide. People go onto our website, tedcruz
• 1:05:15
  .org. This is a grassroots campaign. And you
• 1:05:17
  know, when I ran for Senate in Texas, I told
• 1:05:20
  the people of Texas that I'm not going there
• 1:05:23
  to go along to get along. Washington is broken.
• 1:05:26
  And the people I have been accountable to every
• 1:05:28
  single day in the Senate are the 27 million Texans
• 1:05:31
  who I represent. And I made a promise to them
• 1:05:34
  that I make to you today, which is if I am elected,
• 1:05:37
  Every single day, I will do two things. Tell
• 1:05:39
  the truth and do what I said I would do. Thank
• 1:05:42
  you, sir. Governor Bush shows you running among
• 1:05:48
  the worst in your party against Hillary Clinton.
• 1:05:50
  Even Mitt Romney said that a Bush v. Clinton
• 1:05:52
  head -to -head would be too easy for the Democrats.
• 1:05:55
  Yet still, you and the super PAC supporting you
• 1:05:57
  continue to blanket the airwaves with cutting
• 1:06:00
  ads, not against Mrs. Clinton, but against your
• 1:06:03
  fellow Republicans, especially Senator Rubio.
• 1:06:06
  Do these attacks do more harm than good by targeting
• 1:06:09
  those candidates who appear to have the best
• 1:06:11
  chance of defeating Mrs. Clinton? First of all,
• 1:06:13
  I've seen polls where I'm beating Hillary Clinton
• 1:06:14
  pretty regularly, and I believe I can because
• 1:06:16
  I have a proven record. A record of accomplishment,
• 1:06:19
  a record of cutting taxes, of shrinking the government,
• 1:06:22
  of reforming education, of challenging the status
• 1:06:25
  quo, eliminating career civil service protections,
• 1:06:27
  shrinking the government workforce by 11%, but
• 1:06:30
  leading the nation in job growth. That's the
• 1:06:32
  record of accomplishment that should be taken
• 1:06:34
  to Hillary Clinton, who has no record of accomplishment.
• 1:06:36
  So I'm confident if I win this nomination, I
• 1:06:38
  will aggressively... go against her and beat
• 1:06:41
  her. As it relates to the super PACs, I have
• 1:06:43
  no control over that. And this is beanbag compared
• 1:06:46
  to what the Clinton hit machine is going to do
• 1:06:48
  to the Republican nominee. The simple fact is
• 1:06:50
  we all have a record. It all will be scrutinized.
• 1:06:53
  There's give and take. It's called politics.
• 1:06:55
  And that's the way it is. I'm running hard, and
• 1:06:57
  I believe I'll be the Republican nominee, and
• 1:06:59
  I'll be the one best suited to beat Hillary Clinton,
• 1:07:02
  who should not be president of the United States.
• 1:07:06
  Senator Rubio, first, before I ask you a question,
• 1:07:08
  any response to Governor Bush? Well, I believe
• 1:07:11
  and I know that if Iowa helps make me the Republican
• 1:07:13
  nominee, I will defeat Hillary Clinton. Hillary
• 1:07:16
  doesn't want to run against me, but I cannot
• 1:07:18
  wait to run against her. And I cannot wait to
• 1:07:20
  earn the opportunity to do it because she cannot
• 1:07:22
  be the president of the United States. She wants
• 1:07:24
  to put Barack Obama on the Supreme Court of the
• 1:07:26
  United States of America. She said that here
• 1:07:28
  in Iowa just two days ago. That would be a disaster
• 1:07:30
  for this country. So I hope and pray and cannot
• 1:07:33
  wait until this state and others give me an opportunity
• 1:07:36
  to serve this party as its nominee because I
• 1:07:38
  will defeat Hillary Clinton. Now, let's talk
• 1:07:40
  about electability, Senator. Time magazine once
• 1:07:43
  called you the Republican savior. Rush Limbaugh
• 1:07:46
  and others said you likely will be president
• 1:07:48
  someday. But if you look at the recent average
• 1:07:50
  of polls in your home state of Florida, you're
• 1:07:53
  in third, trailing Donald Trump by 24 points.
• 1:07:57
  If the people who know you best have you there,
• 1:08:00
  why should the rest of the country elect you?
• 1:08:03
  Well, let me be clear about one thing. There's
• 1:08:04
  only one savior, and it's not me. It's Jesus
• 1:08:07
  Christ who came down to earth and died for our
• 1:08:09
  sins. And I've always made that clear about that
• 1:08:13
  cover story. As far as the polls are concerned,
• 1:08:16
  Iowa, on Monday night, you're going to go to
• 1:08:18
  a caucus site, and you'll be the first Americans
• 1:08:20
  that vote in this election. You will be the first
• 1:08:23
  Americans that get to answer the fundamental
• 1:08:25
  question, what comes next for this country after
• 1:08:27
  seven disastrous years of Barack Obama? And let
• 1:08:30
  me tell you what the answer better not be. It
• 1:08:32
  better not be Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders
• 1:08:34
  is a socialist. I think Bernie Sanders is a good
• 1:08:37
  candidate for president. Of Sweden. We don't
• 1:08:40
  want to be Sweden. We want to be the United States
• 1:08:42
  of America. And Hillary Clinton is disqualified
• 1:08:47
  from being the commander -in -chief of the United
• 1:08:48
  States. In fact, one of her first acts as president
• 1:08:51
  may very well be to pardon herself. Because Hillary
• 1:08:54
  Clinton stored classified information on her
• 1:08:58
  private server. And Hillary Clinton lied. to
• 1:09:01
  the families of those four brave Americans who
• 1:09:03
  lost their life in Benghazi. And anyone who lies
• 1:09:06
  to the families of Americans who have died in
• 1:09:08
  the service of this country can never be Commander
• 1:09:10
  -in -Chief of the United States. Thank you, Senator.
• 1:09:15
  Governor Christie, two of your former top aides
• 1:09:20
  go on trial in May for fraud and conspiracy in
• 1:09:23
  the Bridge case, the politically motivated closure
• 1:09:26
  of lanes to the George Washington Bridge. Another
• 1:09:30
  former aide who has already pleaded guilty and
• 1:09:33
  will likely testify for the government as you
• 1:09:35
  know says that you knew about this whole deal
• 1:09:37
  Can the GOP take the chance of nominating you
• 1:09:41
  with this scandal still out there, sir? Sure
• 1:09:43
  because there's been three different investigations
• 1:09:45
  and proven that I knew nothing And the fact is
• 1:09:48
  that what I did do what I did do from the beginning
• 1:09:52
  Chris as soon as I found out about it I fired
• 1:09:54
  the people who were responsible and that's what
• 1:09:56
  you expect from a leader And I'll tell you something
• 1:09:58
  else. I inherited a state in New Jersey that
• 1:10:00
  was downtrodden and beaten by liberal democratic
• 1:10:03
  policies, high taxation, high regulation. And
• 1:10:06
  this year in 2015, New Jersey has had the best
• 1:10:09
  year of job growth that our state has ever had
• 1:10:11
  in the last 15 years. That's because we put conservative
• 1:10:14
  policies in place. And I'll tell you one other
• 1:10:16
  thing. You know why the Republican Party will
• 1:10:19
  want to take a chance on me? Because they know
• 1:10:21
  that Hillary Clinton will never be prosecuted
• 1:10:23
  by this Justice Department. And they're going
• 1:10:25
  to want to put a former federal prosecutor on
• 1:10:26
  the stage to prosecute her next September. And
• 1:10:29
  there is no one on this stage better prepared
• 1:10:30
  to prosecute the case against Hillary Clinton
• 1:10:32
  than I am. I will be ready. I will take her on.
• 1:10:34
  And when I take her on, I guarantee you one thing.
• 1:10:37
  She will never get within 10 miles of the White
• 1:10:39
  House. The days for the Clintons in public housing
• 1:10:41
  are over. Much more to come, including where
• 1:10:47
  the candidates stand on foreign policy. And once
• 1:10:50
  again, you can go to Google .com or open your
• 1:10:53
  Google search app and search Fox News debate
• 1:10:55
  to vote on which candidate you think is winning
• 1:10:58
  the debate tonight. We'll be right back. Gentlemen,
• 1:11:14
  almost 60 percent of Republican caucus goers
• 1:11:17
  identify themselves as evangelicals. So I'd like
• 1:11:20
  to spend a few minutes exploring social issues.
• 1:11:22
  Governor Kasich, you talk a good deal about your
• 1:11:25
  faith. In fact, you say it played a role in your
• 1:11:27
  decision to expand Medicaid. And you say that
• 1:11:29
  when you meet St. Peter at the pearly gates,
• 1:11:32
  he's going to ask what you did for the poor,
• 1:11:34
  not what you did to keep government small. Senator
• 1:11:37
  Cruz is on the opposite side of this issue from
• 1:11:39
  you. So does that mean that you're getting in
• 1:11:41
  and he isn't? No, you know, Chris, here's what
• 1:11:45
  happened with Medicaid in my state. We took the
• 1:11:47
  growth of Medicaid from over 10 percent in my
• 1:11:50
  second budget to two and a half percent without
• 1:11:52
  cutting off. one person or cutting one benefit,
• 1:11:55
  because we innovated the government. And now
• 1:11:58
  mom and dad can stay in their own home rather
• 1:12:00
  than being forced into a nursing home. And then
• 1:12:03
  we decided we could bring $14 billion of our
• 1:12:05
  money. I mean, Washington doesn't have any money.
• 1:12:07
  It was our money. We brought them back to tend
• 1:12:10
  to the mentally ill, because I don't think they
• 1:12:12
  ought to live in prison or live under a bridge
• 1:12:14
  to treat the drug -addicted so they're not in
• 1:12:17
  a— in and out of door policy out of the prisons
• 1:12:19
  and to help the working poor so they don't live
• 1:12:22
  in emergency rooms. How's it worked? Well, we
• 1:12:25
  have treated the drug addicted in our prisons
• 1:12:27
  and we released them into the community and our
• 1:12:30
  recidivism rate is less than 20%. That's basically
• 1:12:33
  bordering on a miracle because of our great prison
• 1:12:36
  director. The mentally ill, they've been stepped
• 1:12:39
  on for too long in this society and we are beginning
• 1:12:42
  to treat them. In terms of my faith, look. All
• 1:12:45
  I say is that when I study scripture, I know
• 1:12:48
  that people who live in the shadows need to have
• 1:12:50
  a chance. But I'm not deciding that anybody's
• 1:12:52
  got to make these decisions the way that I do
• 1:12:54
  on the basis of what I do, but what I will tell
• 1:12:57
  you this, the time has come to stop ignoring
• 1:12:59
  the mentally ill in this country and begin to
• 1:13:02
  treat them and get them on their feet, along,
• 1:13:05
  of course, with treating the drug addicted. Because
• 1:13:07
  we don't want them in and out of the prisons.
• 1:13:11
  Give people a chance. We talked about criminal
• 1:13:12
  justice reform. We've enacted it in our state.
• 1:13:15
  Look, the conservative message is economic growth.
• 1:13:18
  And along with economic growth goes opportunity
• 1:13:21
  for everybody in America. Everybody ought to
• 1:13:24
  have a chance to be able to rise to their God
• 1:13:27
  -given purpose. And that is what we have done
• 1:13:29
  in Ohio. We're running surpluses. We're up 400
• 1:13:32
  ,000 jobs. And guess what? The formula is working.
• 1:13:35
  I'd suggest people take a look at it. Thank you.
• 1:13:38
  Gentlemen, we had a case study on religious liberty
• 1:13:42
  just this last summer. A county clerk in Kentucky
• 1:13:45
  named Kim Davis refused to issue marriage licenses
• 1:13:48
  to same -sex couples after the Supreme Court
• 1:13:51
  ruling, saying that it violated her religious
• 1:13:53
  beliefs. Governor Christie, you said that she
• 1:13:56
  must follow the law or be moved to another job.
• 1:14:00
  that would be in keeping with her conscience.
• 1:14:02
  But some conservatives say that that violates
• 1:14:05
  her religious liberty. Now, what I said, Chris,
• 1:14:07
  was that the law needs to be followed and that
• 1:14:09
  someone in that office has to do their job. So
• 1:14:11
  if Miss Davis wanted to step aside and get rid
• 1:14:13
  of her ability to be able to do that, there should
• 1:14:16
  be someone else in that office who didn't violate
• 1:14:18
  their conscience so they could follow the law
• 1:14:20
  of the state of Kentucky. I never said that Miss
• 1:14:22
  Davis should either lose her job or that she
• 1:14:24
  had to do it. But what I did say was that the
• 1:14:26
  person who came in for the license needed to
• 1:14:28
  get it. And so if there's someone in that in
• 1:14:31
  that organization and it turns out there was
• 1:14:33
  who was willing to be able to do that, that's
• 1:14:35
  what. we should do. But just as importantly,
• 1:14:37
  and I agree with what John said, you know, we
• 1:14:39
  all have our own individual interpretations of
• 1:14:42
  our faith. And here's the problem with what's
• 1:14:44
  going on around the world. The radical Islamic
• 1:14:47
  jihadists, what they want to do is impose their
• 1:14:49
  faith upon each and every one of us, every one
• 1:14:52
  of us. And the reason why this war against them
• 1:14:54
  is so important is that very basis of religious
• 1:14:57
  liberty. They want everyone in this country to
• 1:15:01
  follow their religious beliefs the way they do.
• 1:15:03
  They do not want us to exercise religious liberty.
• 1:15:06
  That's why as commander in chief, I will take
• 1:15:08
  on ISIS, not only because it keeps us safe, but
• 1:15:11
  because it allows us to absolutely conduct our
• 1:15:14
  religious affairs the way we find in our heart
• 1:15:17
  and in our souls. As a Catholic, that's what
• 1:15:19
  I want to do. And no matter what your faith is,
• 1:15:21
  that's what I want you to be able to do. Thank
• 1:15:24
  you, sir. Senator Rubio, during the last debate,
• 1:15:28
  you said Governor Christie had changed his position
• 1:15:32
  and his mind on gun control, on Common Core,
• 1:15:34
  and backing President Obama's nomination of Sotomayor
• 1:15:38
  to the Supreme Court. He said you're wrong on
• 1:15:41
  the facts and you can't, quote, slime your way
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  to the White House. I assume in the last two
• 1:15:45
  weeks you've done some fact -checking. Do you
• 1:15:47
  want to take anything back? Yeah, I would encourage
• 1:15:50
  people to go on my website MarcoRubio .com and
• 1:15:52
  we'll put all the facts up there so people can
• 1:15:54
  see it for themselves. But you've just asked
• 1:15:56
  a very fundamental question about the role of
• 1:15:58
  faith in our country. And I think this is an
• 1:15:59
  important question. I think if you do not understand
• 1:16:02
  that our Judeo -Christian values are one of the
• 1:16:04
  reasons why America is such a special country,
• 1:16:06
  you don't understand our history. You see, why
• 1:16:08
  are we one of the most generous people in the
• 1:16:10
  world? No, the most generous people in the world.
• 1:16:12
  Why do Americans contribute millions of dollars
• 1:16:14
  to charity? It is not because of the tax write
• 1:16:16
  -off. It is because in this nation, We are influenced
• 1:16:19
  by Judeo -Christian values that teach us to care
• 1:16:21
  for the less fortunate, to reach out to the needy,
• 1:16:23
  to love our neighbor. This is what's made our
• 1:16:26
  nation so special. And you should hope that our
• 1:16:28
  next president is someone that is influenced
• 1:16:30
  by their faith. Because if your faith causes
• 1:16:32
  you to care for the less fortunate, it is something
• 1:16:34
  you want to see in your public figures. And when
• 1:16:36
  I'm president, I can tell you this, my faith
• 1:16:38
  will not just influence the way I'll govern as
• 1:16:40
  president, it will influence the way I live my
• 1:16:42
  life. Because in the end, my goal is not simply
• 1:16:45
  to live on this earth for 80 years, but to live
• 1:16:47
  an eternity with my creator. And I will always
• 1:16:49
  allow my faith to influence everything I do.
• 1:16:52
  Thank you, Senator. Senator Paul, in May, In
• 1:16:57
  May on the campaign trail, you said you didn't
• 1:16:59
  get into politics to fight about abortion. You
• 1:17:02
  said you were more concerned about the national
• 1:17:04
  debt. Your answer is to turn abortion back to
• 1:17:08
  the states the way it was before Roe v. Wade.
• 1:17:11
  Does that mean that if a liberal state, let's
• 1:17:14
  say, wants to make abortion legal, that you're
• 1:17:17
  OK with that? And what do you say to conservative
• 1:17:20
  voters who believe deeply that abortion is murder?
• 1:17:24
  You know, I think abortion is always wrong. I've
• 1:17:26
  supported a variety of solutions, both state
• 1:17:29
  as well as federal. In fact, just last week I
• 1:17:32
  introduced the Life at Conception Act, which
• 1:17:34
  would say that the 14th Amendment would defend
• 1:17:36
  an individual, even in the womb. But I think
• 1:17:39
  on the broader question of religion and politics—
• 1:17:42
  You know, I think liberty itself requires a virtue,
• 1:17:45
  requires a virtuous people. In fact, Washington
• 1:17:48
  said that democracy requires a virtuous people.
• 1:17:51
  Oz Guinness, the theologian, said that liberty
• 1:17:54
  requires restraint, but the only restraint consistent
• 1:17:57
  with liberty is self -restraint. There's a lot
• 1:18:00
  packed into that statement. But the bottom line
• 1:18:03
  is we must have virtue. We must have a religious
• 1:18:06
  bearing as a nation. But government's not always
• 1:18:09
  going to save us. And it's not always going to
• 1:18:10
  come from government. But if we don't know right
• 1:18:12
  and wrong, I think we have lost our way. I think
• 1:18:15
  we come unmoored. And I think without the religious
• 1:18:19
  foundation that guides us all, I think we have
• 1:18:22
  a great risk of going horribly in the wrong direction.
• 1:18:24
  Sir, just 30 seconds to answer my specific...
• 1:18:28
  Just 30 seconds to answer my specific question.
• 1:18:31
  Do you favor the idea that abortion should be
• 1:18:34
  a state's rights issue, and if a liberal state
• 1:18:36
  wants to make it legal, that that's their choice?
• 1:18:39
  No, both. Both a federal and a state approach.
• 1:18:43
  I have said that we could leave it to the states,
• 1:18:44
  but I've also introduced a federal solution as
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  well. So the federal solution would be the Life
• 1:18:49
  at Conception Act, which is an act that would
• 1:18:51
  federalize the issue. But I've also said, for
• 1:18:54
  the most part, these issues would be left back
• 1:18:56
  to the states. So there might be an occasion
• 1:18:58
  if we did overturn Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade nationalized
• 1:19:01
  the issue. If you actually had the court reverse
• 1:19:03
  Roe v. Wade, it would become a state issue once
• 1:19:05
  again. I think it would be better the less abortion.
• 1:19:09
  we have. So the more states that we had that
• 1:19:11
  made abortion illegal, the better as far as trying
• 1:19:14
  to save and preserve lives. Thank you, sir. I'd
• 1:19:19
  like to ask a few questions about foreign policy
• 1:19:21
  broadly. Dr. Carson, many experts believe Russian
• 1:19:24
  leader Vladimir Putin has greater ideas, bigger
• 1:19:27
  designs for the region beyond Russia's actions
• 1:19:30
  inside Ukraine. Fast forward to February 2017,
• 1:19:34
  and it is President Carson and Russian ununiformed
• 1:19:38
  commandos cross the Estonian border, and they
• 1:19:40
  occupy a city in Estonia. Estonia, a member of
• 1:19:44
  NATO... Essentially invokes article 5 an attack
• 1:19:48
  on one is an attack on all what do you do? Well,
• 1:19:52
  first of all recognize that Vladimir Putin is
• 1:19:54
  an opportunist and he's a bully and we have to
• 1:19:58
  face him down and I would first of all face him
• 1:20:03
  down in that whole region, the whole Baltic region.
• 1:20:05
  I think we need to put in some armored brigades
• 1:20:07
  there. We only have one or two. We need much
• 1:20:09
  more than that. We need to be doing military
• 1:20:12
  exercises in not only Estonia, but Latvia and
• 1:20:16
  Lithuania. They're terrified by the saber -rabbling.
• 1:20:20
  I think we ought to put in our missile defense
• 1:20:22
  system. I think we ought to give Ukraine offensive
• 1:20:25
  weapons. And I think we ought to fight them on
• 1:20:27
  an economic basis because Putin is a one -horse...
• 1:20:32
  country oil and energy, and we ought to fight
• 1:20:35
  them on that level. We ought to be helping in
• 1:20:38
  terms of the technology for fracking, keeping
• 1:20:40
  the price low, quite frankly, because that's
• 1:20:43
  what's keeping him contained. So, yes, I absolutely
• 1:20:47
  would go in if he attacked, I think, Article
• 1:20:52
  5 of NATO. We would definitely protect all of
• 1:20:54
  our allies. Gentlemen, you've all said that the
• 1:20:57
  Iran nuclear deal is a bad one. Senator Rubio,
• 1:21:00
  you're among the candidates who've said that
• 1:21:02
  you would tear it up on day one. But as you know,
• 1:21:05
  Iran has already received tens of millions of
• 1:21:07
  dollars, tens of billions of dollars in this
• 1:21:09
  deal and has quickly reestablished ties economically
• 1:21:13
  with Europe. The major concessions, in other
• 1:21:15
  words, are up front in this deal. So should you
• 1:21:18
  win, by the time you take office, the remaining
• 1:21:20
  parts of the deal would be the constraints on
• 1:21:23
  Iran. So why blow up those constraints? on day
• 1:21:25
  one. letting Iran off the hook? Well, let me
• 1:21:28
  first describe Iran, because they're not just
• 1:21:30
  a normal nation state, and we have no quarrel
• 1:21:31
  with the Iranian people. But the Iranian leader,
• 1:21:34
  their supreme leader, is a radical Shia cleric
• 1:21:36
  who has an apocalyptic vision of the future.
• 1:21:38
  He views himself not simply as the leader of
• 1:21:40
  Iran, but as the leader of all Muslims, all Shia
• 1:21:43
  Muslims on the planet. And they have a desire
• 1:21:45
  not simply to conquer the Middle East and to
• 1:21:47
  become the dominant power in that region, but
• 1:21:49
  ultimately to be able to hold America hostage.
• 1:21:52
  That is why they're building right now and developing
• 1:21:54
  long -range missiles. capable of reaching the
• 1:21:56
  United States, and that is why they're going
• 1:21:58
  to use those $100 billion to expand their conventional
• 1:22:01
  capabilities and to one day buy or build a nuclear
• 1:22:04
  weapon. When I am president of the United States,
• 1:22:07
  on my first day in office, we are canceling the
• 1:22:09
  deal with Iran, and nations will have to make
• 1:22:11
  a choice. They can do business with Iran or they
• 1:22:14
  can do business with America, and I am very confident
• 1:22:16
  they're going to choose America before they choose
• 1:22:18
  the Iranian economy. Governor Kasich, you've
• 1:22:20
  said that Marco Rubio is wrong, that Senator
• 1:22:22
  Rubio is wrong with tearing it up on day one.
• 1:22:25
  We don't know what's going to happen in 10 months.
• 1:22:27
  And if I were president of the United States
• 1:22:30
  right now, I'd be lining up our allies to say
• 1:22:32
  that if one cross T or one dotted I does not
• 1:22:35
  occur, they violate the agreement, we slap back
• 1:22:38
  on sanctions. We can slap on sanctions alone
• 1:22:41
  on day one, but it's not going to be anywhere
• 1:22:43
  near as effective. But the president needs to
• 1:22:46
  be laying the groundwork right now. for the ability
• 1:22:49
  to slap those sanctions back on worldwide. And
• 1:22:53
  I'll tell you what I'm worried about. I'm worried
• 1:22:55
  about money. You read about all the companies
• 1:22:58
  now that are doing business, about to do business
• 1:23:01
  in Iran. And if we don't get this settled now
• 1:23:04
  with other countries in the world about sanctions,
• 1:23:06
  then Iran could violate that agreement. And we're
• 1:23:09
  the only ones putting the sanctions on. We need
• 1:23:11
  to move aggressively now. But I would say this
• 1:23:14
  to you, Brett. Number one, if they violate it,
• 1:23:16
  We need to move against them. And number two,
• 1:23:19
  if we find out they're developing a nuclear weapon
• 1:23:21
  and we know how to get to it, we're going to
• 1:23:24
  go take it out. That is what we have to do. We
• 1:23:26
  cannot let things get farther down the road like
• 1:23:29
  we did with North Korea. But, Governor Kasich,
• 1:23:31
  you know that the most powerful sanctions are
• 1:23:33
  the multilateral ones. That's right. And these
• 1:23:35
  European countries are already reestablishing
• 1:23:37
  these ties. I know, Brad. They don't want— But,
• 1:23:39
  Brad, here's the problem. You take a look at
• 1:23:42
  Belgium. I talked to a diplomat from Belgium.
• 1:23:44
  I said, how's it going? He said, we have the
• 1:23:46
  military in the streets right now. We never dreamt
• 1:23:48
  we'd ever see it. See, I think there is an opportunity
• 1:23:51
  to bring the world together. The Turks are being
• 1:23:54
  threatened. We know about the French. We know
• 1:23:57
  about the Belgians. We know about the Brits.
• 1:24:00
  Everybody is under fire and under attack, and
• 1:24:02
  we have to stand together as an alliance. So
• 1:24:05
  actually, the opportunity is there. because of
• 1:24:09
  the threat to all of these countries to bring
• 1:24:11
  all of us together and say there is something
• 1:24:13
  more important than money. It is the future in
• 1:24:15
  the world and the future of our children and
• 1:24:18
  grandchildren. That's the kind of leadership
• 1:24:20
  this country needs. And it has not been in effect
• 1:24:22
  during the administration of Barack Obama. And
• 1:24:25
  that's only the beginning of the failures that
• 1:24:27
  they have committed, not only in the Middle East,
• 1:24:30
  but all over the world, including Russia and
• 1:24:32
  China. Governor, thank you. Governor Christie,
• 1:24:34
  Libya is the newest base for ISIS. Just today,
• 1:24:38
  Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said ISIS is
• 1:24:40
  consolidating their footprint there and also
• 1:24:43
  setting up training facilities. So if you were
• 1:24:45
  president, would you deploy U .S. troops to Libya
• 1:24:48
  to take out ISIS there? Brett, let me tell you,
• 1:24:51
  this is another one of those places where Hillary
• 1:24:54
  Clinton has so much to answer for and why she
• 1:24:56
  is completely unqualified to be commander in
• 1:24:58
  chief. In a previous Democratic debate, Martha
• 1:25:03
  Raddatz three times asked Hillary Clinton about
• 1:25:06
  the failure in Libya, a policy that she took
• 1:25:08
  credit for, and said, what is your measure of
• 1:25:11
  responsibility, Madam Secretary, for the failure
• 1:25:13
  in Libya? Three times she refused to answer the
• 1:25:17
  question. because she refuses to be held accountable
• 1:25:21
  for anything that goes wrong. If it had gone
• 1:25:23
  right, believe me, she would have been running
• 1:25:24
  around to be able to take credit for it. Here's
• 1:25:26
  what I'd do. This is about the bigger, broader
• 1:25:28
  war against ISIS. We need to bring together our
• 1:25:31
  European and our Sunni Arab allies, and we need
• 1:25:33
  to develop a strategy together to take on ISIS
• 1:25:36
  every place that it is around the world so that
• 1:25:39
  together... All of us can take ISIS out, destroy
• 1:25:42
  it, and then move on to come back to our country,
• 1:25:45
  protect our homeland security, and make sure
• 1:25:47
  that the American people are safe. As President
• 1:25:50
  of the United States, that is exactly what I
• 1:25:51
  will do. Thank you, Governor. We're not finished
• 1:25:55
  yet. More to come from the presidential debate
• 1:25:57
  live from Des Moines, Iowa, next. And remember,
• 1:26:00
  to see how the campaigns are responding to the
• 1:26:02
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• 1:26:10
  Welcome back to Des Moines. Let's resume the
• 1:26:13
  debate. Megan. Senator Paul, you have suggested
• 1:26:16
  that former President Bill Clinton's history
• 1:26:19
  with women is fair game in this campaign. How
• 1:26:22
  do you answer those who say you don't hold the
• 1:26:24
  sins of the husband against the wife? You know,
• 1:26:28
  I've never really brought this up unless asked
• 1:26:30
  the question, but I have responded to the question.
• 1:26:33
  I don't blame Hillary Clinton at all for this.
• 1:26:35
  I don't think she's responsible for his behavior.
• 1:26:38
  But I do think that her position as promoting
• 1:26:41
  women's rights and fairness to women in the workplace,
• 1:26:45
  that if what Bill Clinton did, any CEO in our
• 1:26:49
  country did with an intern, with a 22 -year -old,
• 1:26:53
  21 -year -old intern in their office, they would
• 1:26:55
  be fired. They would never be hired again. Fired,
• 1:27:05
  never hired again, and probably shunned in their
• 1:27:08
  community. And the thing is, she can't be a champion
• 1:27:11
  of women's rights at the same time she's got
• 1:27:14
  this that is always lurking out there, this type
• 1:27:17
  of behavior. So it is difficult. Of her husband's.
• 1:27:19
  Yeah, but I combine this also with the millions
• 1:27:22
  upon millions of dollars they've taken from regimes
• 1:27:24
  in the Middle East who treat women like cattle.
• 1:27:28
  We have another question from one of YouTube's
• 1:27:34
  top creators. Here it is. I'm Nabella Noor. I'm
• 1:27:42
  a Muslim American born and raised in the U .S.
• 1:27:45
  who creates beauty and lifestyle videos on YouTube.
• 1:27:49
  In 2015, the number of hate crimes against Muslims
• 1:27:52
  in the U .S. has tripled. And on social media,
• 1:27:55
  where I spend a lot of time, I've seen many attacks
• 1:27:58
  directed towards fellow Muslims. This culture
• 1:28:01
  of hatred is only driving ISIS to radicalize,
• 1:28:05
  recruit, and incite violence. As president, what
• 1:28:08
  would you do to address this toxic climate and
• 1:28:11
  promote increased tolerance in the United States?
• 1:28:14
  Governor Bush, how do you answer Nabila? Well,
• 1:28:17
  first of all, I think it's important that when
• 1:28:19
  we're running for the highest office in the land,
• 1:28:21
  that we recognize that we're living in dangerous
• 1:28:23
  times and we have to be serious about it, that
• 1:28:24
  our words have consequences. Donald Trump, for
• 1:28:27
  example, I'm glad I mentioned his name again,
• 1:28:29
  just if anybody was missing him. Mr. Trump believed
• 1:28:33
  that. in reaction to people's fears that we should
• 1:28:36
  ban all Muslims. Well, that creates an environment
• 1:28:39
  that's toxic in our own country. rising entrepreneur.
• 1:28:43
  She wants to pursue the American dream. She's
• 1:28:45
  an American citizen. She should not feel uncomfortable
• 1:28:47
  about her citizenship. She's not the threat.
• 1:28:50
  The threat is Islamic terrorism. We need to focus
• 1:28:52
  our energies there, not these broad blanket kind
• 1:28:55
  of statements that will make it harder for us
• 1:28:59
  to deal with ISIS. We need to deal with ISIS
• 1:29:01
  in the caliphate. We need a strategy to destroy
• 1:29:04
  ISIS there. You can't do that without the cooperation
• 1:29:06
  of the Muslim world, because they're as threatened
• 1:29:10
  as we are. And so I think it's important for
• 1:29:13
  us to be careful about the language we use, which
• 1:29:15
  is why I've been critical of Donald Trump, disparaging
• 1:29:17
  women, disparaging Hispanics. That's not a sign
• 1:29:20
  of strength. Making fun of disabled people? We're
• 1:29:23
  never going to win elections if we don't have
• 1:29:24
  a more broader, unifying message. Governor, thank
• 1:29:29
  you. Senator Cruz, change of subjects. You've
• 1:29:31
  called for an end to the renewable fuel standards.
• 1:29:35
  which mandate that refineries blend biofuels,
• 1:29:38
  including ethanol, into gasoline. As you well
• 1:29:40
  know, ethanol is a big industry in this state,
• 1:29:43
  $10 billion a year. Last week, Terry Branstad,
• 1:29:47
  the popular governor of Iowa, said that you're
• 1:29:57
  bankrolled by big oil and that Iowa voters would
• 1:30:01
  be making a mistake supporting you. Why should
• 1:30:05
  those voters side with you over the six -term
• 1:30:08
  governor of this state, sir? Well, Chris, I'm
• 1:30:11
  glad to discuss my views on ethanol and energy.
• 1:30:13
  I think God has blessed this country with enormous
• 1:30:15
  natural resources, and we should pursue all of
• 1:30:18
  the above. We should be developing oil and gas
• 1:30:21
  and coal and nuclear and wind and solar and ethanol
• 1:30:24
  and biofuels. But I don't believe that Washington
• 1:30:27
  should be picking winners and losers, and I think
• 1:30:29
  there should be no mandates and no subsidies
• 1:30:31
  whatsoever. And indeed, my tax plan that I've
• 1:30:35
  introduced, it's available on our website. It's
• 1:30:37
  a simple, flat tax for everyone. It'll produce
• 1:30:39
  enormous economic growth, and it eliminates every
• 1:30:42
  mandate, every subsidy, so there's no subsidies
• 1:30:45
  for oil and gas, no subsidies for anyone. Now,
• 1:30:48
  it is true that there are a bunch of lobbyists
• 1:30:50
  and a bunch of Democrats in this state spending
• 1:30:52
  millions of dollars trying to convince the people
• 1:30:54
  of Iowa that I somehow oppose ethanol. It's not
• 1:30:57
  true. I have introduced legislation that would
• 1:31:00
  phase out the ethanol mandate over five years,
• 1:31:03
  but that is in the context of having no mandates
• 1:31:05
  whatsoever for anyone. And I would note there's
• 1:31:08
  a much more important government regulation to
• 1:31:10
  ethanol, and that's the EPA's blend wall that
• 1:31:13
  makes it illegal to sell mid -level blends of
• 1:31:15
  ethanol and gasoline. I will tear down the EPA's
• 1:31:19
  blend wall, which will enable ethanol to expand
• 1:31:22
  its market share by up to 60 percent. all without
• 1:31:25
  mandates, all without any government mandates
• 1:31:28
  whatsoever through the marketplace. And I'll
• 1:31:30
  note finally, Chris, there is a reason that Iowa's
• 1:31:34
  Congressman Steve King, perhaps the fiercest
• 1:31:36
  defender of farmers in this state, is chairing
• 1:31:39
  my campaign because he understands that I'm committed
• 1:31:41
  to a fair and level playing field for every energy
• 1:31:44
  source without lobbyists and without Washington
• 1:31:47
  picking winners and losers. Dr. Carson, I'd like
• 1:31:52
  to ask you about exactly that issue. Where are
• 1:31:54
  you on the mandatory ethanol standard? And precisely
• 1:31:58
  this question, should government be in the business
• 1:32:00
  of picking winners and losers, or should it be
• 1:32:03
  left to the marketplace? Well, as anyone knows
• 1:32:06
  who's been listening to me, you know, I'm very
• 1:32:09
  much against the government being involved in
• 1:32:12
  every aspect of our lives. You know, we, last
• 1:32:15
  year... Last year, there was an additional 81
• 1:32:19
  ,000 pages of government regulations. If you
• 1:32:23
  stack that up, it would be a three -story building.
• 1:32:25
  This is absolutely absurd. And they've insinuated
• 1:32:28
  themselves into everything. Now, as far as the
• 1:32:31
  renewable fuel standard is concerned, certain
• 1:32:33
  promises were made. Certain government contracts
• 1:32:37
  were issued, which extend all the way into the
• 1:32:40
  year. 2022. And I believe that it's probably
• 1:32:44
  unfair to withdraw the rug because people have
• 1:32:47
  invested money, people have invested a lot of
• 1:32:50
  energy into that. But, you know, we are blessed
• 1:32:53
  with tremendous energy in this nation. And we
• 1:32:56
  need to be talking about new sources of energy.
• 1:32:58
  Seventy percent of our population lives bi -coastally.
• 1:33:02
  What about hydroelectric power? We can develop
• 1:33:05
  that. You know, we have so much natural gas now,
• 1:33:09
  and we can liquefy it, and we can transfer it
• 1:33:11
  across the seas. We can make Europe dependent
• 1:33:13
  on us instead of Putin putting it back in its
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  little box where it belongs. Those are the kinds
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  of things that we ought to be doing. And, you
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  know— Take advantage of the tremendous opportunities
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  and energy that God has given us. Not get involved
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  in these little petty arguments. And we can get
• 1:33:29
  a lot of them out if we get the government out
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  of our lives. Doctor, thank you. Coming up, closing
• 1:33:34
  statements from the candidates as our debate
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  continues live from Des Moines, Iowa. It is time
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  for closing statements. The candidates each get
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  30 seconds. And we begin with Kentucky Senator
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  Rand Paul. Well, thanks for having me. It's great
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  to be back. I'm an eye surgeon from Bowling Green,
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  Kentucky. I miss doing eye surgery. Still get
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  to do a little bit. Did a couple of cataract
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  surgeries over Christmas holidays. Got to go
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  to Haiti last year. I've gotten to do some incredible
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  things. Got to be on the floor of the Senate.
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  It's just been amazing to me. But the thing that
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  is most important to me and caused me to run
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  for office is I'm worried about the country and
• 1:34:24
  how much debt we're adding. And I am the one
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  true fiscal conservative who will look at all
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  spending, and that's the only way we'll ever
• 1:34:30
  balance our budget. Thank you. You know, one
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  of our biggest national security issues is the
• 1:34:47
  world looks at us sometimes, and we look at each
• 1:34:49
  other and say, why can't we solve problems? I've
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  got news for you. We can. We can, in fact, create
• 1:34:55
  jobs and provide job security. We can create
• 1:34:58
  a situation where wages begin to rise. We can
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  create a situation for our children to be able
• 1:35:03
  to get a decent job to pay down their college
• 1:35:05
  debt. We can reassume our role in the world.
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  But all this has to come together when we have
• 1:35:11
  a positive attitude, an optimistic approach,
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  an ability for us to set the tune as conservatives.
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  but to invite other people in to be part of that
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  orchestra. You see, ladies and gentlemen, at
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  the end of the day, I'm an optimist because I've
• 1:35:23
  seen so many things get accomplished in my lifetime,
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  and we can do it again together, all of us, to
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  strengthen this country, work together. Thank
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  you. New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. On September
• 1:35:37
  11th, my wife was two blocks from the World Trade
• 1:35:40
  Center. When those buildings came down, she was
• 1:35:42
  trapped in her building, and I didn't hear from
• 1:35:43
  her for over six hours. We had three children,
• 1:35:46
  eight, five, and one, and I had to confront the
• 1:35:48
  possibility of being a single parent. Terrorism
• 1:35:51
  in this country scares everyone. And the fact
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  is we need a commander -in -chief who not only
• 1:35:56
  understands how to protect us, but feels in here
• 1:35:59
  what it means to face the possibility of loss.
• 1:36:03
  I've faced it. I've prosecuted terrorists. I
• 1:36:06
  have made the decisions that need to be made
• 1:36:08
  as a governor to protect us. And as President
• 1:36:10
  of the United States, no one will keep this country
• 1:36:12
  safer than I will. Thank you, Governor. Former
• 1:36:17
  Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Governor. We desperately
• 1:36:20
  need a conservative leader as president of the
• 1:36:22
  United States. I have a proven record as governor
• 1:36:24
  of the state of Florida as a conservative leader.
• 1:36:26
  And I also had detailed plans to fix the mess
• 1:36:28
  in Washington, D .C. As president, I will restore
• 1:36:31
  and rebuild our military, restore the alliances,
• 1:36:34
  and keep us safe. And as our party's nominee,
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  I will defeat Hillary Clinton in November. I
• 1:36:39
  ask for your support on the caucuses come Monday
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  night, and I will make you proud as our party's
• 1:36:44
  nominee. Thank you very much. Dr. Ben Carson.
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  I want to thank the people of Iowa for being
• 1:36:54
  so welcoming to me. Please think of our founding
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  fathers as you listen. We the people of the United
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  States. In order to form a more perfect union,
• 1:37:06
  establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility,
• 1:37:11
  provide for the common defense, promote the general
• 1:37:14
  welfare, and secure the benefits of liberty to
• 1:37:18
  ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
• 1:37:24
  this Constitution of the United States of America.
• 1:37:27
  Folks, it's not too late. Enough said. Florida
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  Senator Marco Rubio. The Bible commands us to
• 1:37:38
  let our light shine on the world. For over 200
• 1:37:41
  years, America's light's been shining on the
• 1:37:43
  world, and the world has never been the same
• 1:37:44
  again. But now that light is dimming a little
• 1:37:47
  after seven years of Barack Obama. And that's
• 1:37:49
  why Monday night, what will happen here in Iowa,
• 1:37:51
  is so important. I'm asking you for your vote.
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  Caucus for me on Monday night, because if I'm
• 1:37:57
  your nominee, I will unite this party, and I
• 1:37:59
  will defeat Hillary Clinton. And when I'm president,
• 1:38:01
  America's light will shine again, and the 21st
• 1:38:04
  century will be a new American century. 93 hours.
• 1:38:14
  The media noise will soon be over, and it's now
• 1:38:17
  for the men and women of Iowa to decide. Our
• 1:38:20
  country's in crisis. We're worried the future
• 1:38:22
  of our children, and we've been burned over and
• 1:38:25
  over again. The central question in this race
• 1:38:28
  is trust. Who do you know? We'll kill the terrorists,
• 1:38:31
  defend the Constitution, and repeal Obamacare.
• 1:38:34
  Who do you know will stop amnesty and secure
• 1:38:37
  the borders? Who do you know will defend life,
• 1:38:40
  marriage, and religious liberty? Examine our
• 1:38:43
  records, pray on it, and I would be honored if
• 1:38:45
  you and your family would come caucus for us
• 1:38:47
  on Monday night. So much for being here tonight.
• 1:38:55
  We appreciate it greatly. And that does it for
• 1:38:57
  the seventh Republican primary debate of the
• 1:38:59
  2016 presidential race. But we're not done. The
• 1:39:02
  Kelly file starts in a moment, and guess who's
• 1:39:04
  going to be there? Senator Ted Cruz. And don't
• 1:39:07
  forget, after all the talk, the first voting
• 1:39:09
  of the 2016 campaign happens in just four days.
• 1:39:13
  The first Americans to vote. The Iowa caucuses
• 1:39:16
  are Monday, and Fox News will have complete coverage.
• 1:39:19
  And we have you covered from Iowa all the way
• 1:39:22
  to the conventions and on to the general election.
• 1:39:25
  Thanks again for joining us. For all of us here
• 1:39:27
  in Des Moines, have a great evening. Tonight.
• 1:40:25
  A campaign season unlike any other takes a dramatic
• 1:40:28
  turn with a two -hour debate for the ages in
• 1:40:32
  Iowa. Before we get to the issues, let's address
• 1:40:35
  the elephant not in the room tonight. Donald
• 1:40:37
  Trump has chosen not to attend this evening's
• 1:40:40
  presidential debate. The last four questions
• 1:40:42
  have been, Rand, please attack Ted. Marco, please
• 1:40:45
  attack Ted. Chris, please attack Ted. Jeb, please
• 1:40:47
  attack Ted. Let me just say this. It is a debate,
• 1:40:52
  sir. Let me tell you who's not qualified to be
• 1:40:55
  president of the United States, Chris. Hillary
• 1:40:57
  Rodham Clinton did that to our country. She is
• 1:41:00
  not qualified to be president of the United States.
• 1:41:03
  That is the book where you changed your position
• 1:41:04
  on immigration because you used to support a
• 1:41:07
  path to citizenship. So did you. Well, but you
• 1:41:09
  changed the book and the book. So did you, Marco.
• 1:41:11
  As all but one of the Republican presidential
• 1:41:13
  hopefuls face off in Des Moines. Frontrunner
• 1:41:17
  Donald Trump, a last -minute no -show, offering
• 1:41:20
  the rest of the field an opportunity. to make
• 1:41:22
  their voices heard before the all -important
• 1:41:25
  Monday caucuses. I've had more 2 a .m. phone
• 1:41:29
  calls than everybody here put together making
• 1:41:32
  life and death decisions. I don't think you have
• 1:41:35
  to give up your liberty for a false sense of
• 1:41:37
  security. There's the establishment lane, the
• 1:41:39
  anti -establishment lane, and then there's the
• 1:41:41
  Kasich lane. If I'm our nominee, I will unite
• 1:41:44
  this party, and we will defeat Hillary Clinton,
• 1:41:46
  and we will turn this country around once and
• 1:41:48
  for all after seven years of the disaster that
• 1:41:50
  is Barack Obama. Thank you. The Republican candidates
• 1:41:54
  have made more than 300 trips to this state combined.
• 1:41:57
  And if history is any indicator, many Iowa votes
• 1:42:01
  are still up for grabs, making this night perhaps
• 1:42:05
  the most important visit of all. So who impressed?
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  The caliphate of ISIS has to be destroyed. Get
• 1:42:11
  the lawyers off the damn backs of the military
• 1:42:13
  for once and for all. Have a no -fly zone in
• 1:42:16
  Syria. I will apologize to nobody for the vigorousness
• 1:42:20
  with which I will fight terrorism, go after ISIS,
• 1:42:24
  hunt them down wherever they are, and utterly
• 1:42:27
  and completely destroy ISIS. Barack Obama wants
• 1:42:30
  America to be more like the rest of the world.
• 1:42:32
  We don't want to be like the rest of the world.
• 1:42:33
  We want to be the United States of America. And
• 1:42:36
  that is why Hillary Clinton cannot win this election.
• 1:42:41
  Frank Luntz and his focus group of Iowa Republican
• 1:42:43
  caucus -goers are here. Plus, we'll speak with
• 1:42:46
  presidential candidate Ted Cruz, fresh off of
• 1:42:48
  the debate stage. And we have all -star analysis
• 1:42:51
  from Charles Krauthammer, Mark Thiessen, Chris
• 1:42:54
  Dyerwald, Howard Kurtz, and Bill Burton. The
• 1:42:58
  Kelly File starts right now.