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Bobby Khan on Running for Congress in Vegas | 366 · Hey BigHead: The Vegas Local Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: You know, one of my favorite things about Big Head is getting to be able to sit down with such a wide variety of people from Vegas, from influencers, chefs, CEOs, uh, and lately, coincidentally, quite a few politicians.
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SPEAKER_00: And today, we're actually gonna add one more name to that list.
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SPEAKER_00: Bobby Kahn is here.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the show, sir.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I feel uh I don't know if I'm disrespected.
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SPEAKER_02: You call me a politician.
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SPEAKER_02: What the fuck is wrong with you?
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SPEAKER_02: Nice way to start off a conversation.
0:29
SPEAKER_02: I'm out.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm out.
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SPEAKER_02: Listen, I'm I'm all for one.
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SPEAKER_02: I hate politicians.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, so let me tell you about politicians.
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SPEAKER_00: What is your what does your LinkedIn bio say?
0:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't have a LinkedIn.
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SPEAKER_02: Why the fuck would I have a LinkedIn?
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SPEAKER_02: If you don't recognize me, you see a politician, they walk around with badges and two shirts with their names on it.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, if people don't know you by your face, you're obviously doing something wrong, right?
0:49
SPEAKER_02: So I don't have a LinkedIn.
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SPEAKER_02: I I've never had a resume in my life.
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SPEAKER_02: When's the last job you've had?
0:54
SPEAKER_02: I've never had a job.
0:55
SPEAKER_02: I've been self-employed since I was a kid.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it because first of all, where are you from?
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SPEAKER_02: Jersey.
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SPEAKER_00: You're from Jersey.
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SPEAKER_00: I can tell.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I grew up in Jersey.
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SPEAKER_00: You got that Jersey attitude, which I which I love.
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SPEAKER_00: My my dad's from Jersey.
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SPEAKER_02: I grew up in Jersey.
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SPEAKER_02: My, you know, I used to get in a bunch of fist fights all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: I fight.
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SPEAKER_02: I like fighting.
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SPEAKER_02: I really do.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I, you know, people might take this the wrong way.
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SPEAKER_02: I actually find so much joy throwing a punch or a baseball battery.
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SPEAKER_00: When's the last time you punched somebody?
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SPEAKER_02: We'll not talk about that.
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SPEAKER_02: Next question.
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SPEAKER_00: Statue of limitations isn't over.
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SPEAKER_00: So for anybody that's that, for the few people in Vegas then that aren't familiar with who Bobby Kahn is, you're running for as an independent candidate for Nevada's first congressional district.
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SPEAKER_00: Where is that in the city?
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SPEAKER_02: So let me explain, because I get this question every day.
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SPEAKER_02: You do.
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SPEAKER_02: People are like, I I don't see your name on my ballot.
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SPEAKER_02: So the entire Vegas strip.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay?
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SPEAKER_02: But believe it or not, it doesn't include Fremont Street.
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SPEAKER_02: It ends like right around that area, past um a little bit past the strat it ends.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Then it goes the back to, you know, so back of the strip.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: So East Vegas, all that stuff is included in it.
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SPEAKER_02: Then you go around South Point.
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SPEAKER_02: Believe it or not, a portion of South Point is in my district, but the main hotel isn't.
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SPEAKER_00: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: The parking lot is, but the hotel Who made this?
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SPEAKER_02: Who made these boundaries?
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SPEAKER_02: Your politicians, okay?
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SPEAKER_02: The ones that you like.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I got Henderson, I got Boulder City, and like surrounding pockets here and there.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's my district.
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SPEAKER_02: So if you live in Summerlin, you can't vote for me.
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SPEAKER_02: If you live in Northwest Las Vegas, you can't vote for me.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, um, if you live in Reno, you definitely can't vote for me.
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SPEAKER_00: Fair.
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SPEAKER_02: And all the other places.
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SPEAKER_00: So if if politics, and I'm I'm gonna use the word loosely that if politics has shown us anything in the past 10 years, uh, when it comes to running, social media has become such a crucial platform to do to build your campaign on.
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SPEAKER_00: And you specifically have exceeded expectations in terms of social media and marketing your campaign.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you what it is, okay?
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SPEAKER_02: Um, social media is a two here's what's happen here's the problem.
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SPEAKER_02: And a lot of people, this is why they don't like me when it comes to politics and well you career politicians don't like me.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, and uh people that are in the political world are petrified if I succeed.
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SPEAKER_02: Because if I succeed, it kills the politic, a political game in this world.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you why it happens.
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SPEAKER_02: Politics is a big business, and everybody loves to be in politics because they can make a lot of money, because they go to the suckers and they donate money and say, we would need money to elect this person.
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SPEAKER_02: And everybody gives out like you know millions of dollars per campaign.
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SPEAKER_02: But then who's making the money?
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SPEAKER_02: The campaign consultants, the people that work these campaigns.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a reason why these people take a whole year off and then they're back the next year making money because they're gonna get paid.
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SPEAKER_02: So what happens is here's a uh I have to order business cards.
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SPEAKER_02: The campaign consultant says, I'll take care of everything, you just pay me a monthly fee, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So now the business cards that would cost$30 now cost$500.
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SPEAKER_02: But who's paying for it?
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SPEAKER_02: The donors are paying for it.
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SPEAKER_02: The packs are bringing in money.
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SPEAKER_02: Now they're like, if this guy goes and wins this election without spending money, he just killed the business.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Because they're gonna actually have to teach this campaign to everybody in every college across the country.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, you can actually run for office, reach millions of people, and not blow millions of dollars of people's money through social media?
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SPEAKER_02: Through social media.
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SPEAKER_02: Think about this.
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SPEAKER_02: I reached 94 million people online on a monthly basis.
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SPEAKER_02: How many ads do these my opponents, you know, have on TV, on the radio, on billboards, right?
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SPEAKER_02: How many people are they reaching?
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SPEAKER_02: How many of the people that see their ads or something like that can actually know what they stand for?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Because all it is is the same ad.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a 15-second ad with complete, you know, scripted and filters and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: They don't get to know the person.
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SPEAKER_02: But with me, they get to hear me, they hear my thoughts, they hear my responses to certain things, they hear, you know, if they comment, I'll respond.
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SPEAKER_02: And people are like, well, I know where this guy stands.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You, anybody in this town knows where I stand, how I am, what my attitude is, and they get me for me.
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SPEAKER_02: Are there any politicians that you are fan by at least you respect?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't like anyone.
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SPEAKER_00: What about Oscar Goodman?
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SPEAKER_02: I love Oscar Goodman, but he's not a politician.
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SPEAKER_02: He's a mob attorney.
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SPEAKER_02: He's a mob attorney that decided I'm tired of the system and now I'm gonna go fucking run.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the difference.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the things that I listen, there there are many ways Brand is cracking up back there.
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SPEAKER_00: There are many, many ways of people finding you, uh, especially on social media.
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SPEAKER_00: I found you because we had a uh we have a mutual friend, we have a few mutual friends, but Derek Opila from uh Peppermint Hip Hop.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, love him.
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SPEAKER_00: He was in one of your your Bobby Walk videos that you do.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: Where did this Bobby walk thing come from?
5:39
SPEAKER_02: So last year, where's Louise my phone?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna show you guys this, okay?
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SPEAKER_02: Please.
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SPEAKER_02: So um everybody, you know, started comparing.
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SPEAKER_02: When I started running for office, everybody started saying, You remind me of, you know, the guy from the movie Casino, Robert De Nier's character, Sam Rothstein.
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SPEAKER_02: So I did a Halloween party.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I'm walking out of um the hotel, it was at the Sahara Casino, and I'm walking out, and uh, next thing you know, hold on, I gotta find this video.
6:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, so I'm walking out, I did a Halloween party, and I dressed up just like you know, Sam Rothstein.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh next thing you know, I like somebody was like, you know, there's a lot of people that like, hey, you know, when they make videos and they hick selfies.
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SPEAKER_02: So there was a woman there and she filmed me walking out of the casino.
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SPEAKER_02: And I get the video in the morning, and I'm it's like five o'clock in the morning.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm looking, I'm like, I said to my wife, I'm like, hey, babe, check this out.
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SPEAKER_02: This is pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife, like, she like, you should post that and put in, you know, the song from the movie.
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SPEAKER_02: I said, Was it House of the Rising Sun?
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SPEAKER_02: House of the Rising Sun, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So this is the video.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a great shot, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm just walking out with two of my bodyguards.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we walk out.
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SPEAKER_02: I got the suit on that he's wearing, and next thing you know, I get a, you know, like the video takes off and it gets like a million, 1.4 million views at first.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, all right.
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SPEAKER_02: Then I reposted it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it gets two million views.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what the fuck?
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SPEAKER_02: And then I get a video from a woman in Boston, and she tags me.
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SPEAKER_02: Actually, she she posted it, she tagged me and she says, Going in to my my kids' uh teachers, uh going in to have a conference with my tid's teacher doing the Bobby Walk, and she's in a pinstripe suit, and she's got an attitude, and next thing you know, there's people in Canada posting it, and then there's people, and like all these women are posting it, and I'm like, what the hell?
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SPEAKER_02: And then these DJs, hard knocks boys, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: They made a song called the Bobby Walk.
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SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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SPEAKER_02: That song has been played, I don't know, 11 million times or something like that.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, really?
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SPEAKER_02: So now people fly in from all across the world.
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SPEAKER_02: People like show up at the Sahara, like, I'm gonna do the Bobby Walk.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what the fuck is a Bobby Walk?
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SPEAKER_02: And next thing you know, I'm like, all right.
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SPEAKER_02: So now every event that I have, yeah, people are like, Can I do the walk with you?
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SPEAKER_02: And they do the walk and they want to post it online.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh honestly, out of out of those 11 million plays, probably a million have come from this office because my team is so sick of me playing the do the bobby walk song over and over again.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: Julie's not here, but if you would if you would wholeheartedly agree with that.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh shit, why?
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SPEAKER_00: Why do you guys play it?
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SPEAKER_00: Because it's catchy as fuck.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's very catchy.
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SPEAKER_02: It's catchy as hell.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, for those of you that haven't heard it, let me actually, I'm gonna play it for you guys now, okay?
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SPEAKER_02: Because throw it in the microphone.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, hold on.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me gotta I gotta find it.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, the Bobby Walk.
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SPEAKER_02: This is crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I I you know, hold on, here it is.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't believe I mean I've had Armando Stante do the Bobby Walk, like Chuck Zito, Frank Stallone, uh Nicolas Cage's kid, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Like it's like the craziest shit people like.
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SPEAKER_00: Which by the way, you you've you've name-dropped a few of those people, and it blows my mind that I I don't understand how you get people like Billy Bob Thornton or the the um Armando guy, uh, forgotten.
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SPEAKER_02: Armando Santi.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, incredible actor.
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SPEAKER_00: All of these huge names, how do how do you get connected with them?
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SPEAKER_02: Like you know, interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: There's something about me my entire life, I always somehow attract people.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, I mean, I'll end up in the weirdest situations, and I'm like, you're such and such.
9:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're such and like you know, I've always been because my business was dealing with celebrities my whole life, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So I've always dealt with them, and you know the last person you think walks in and you're like, oh shit, that's yeah, so just watch your movie or just watch your rap video or I did this or saw you throwing the ball.
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SPEAKER_02: And so like when I started doing this, people start just reaching out on their own.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people start coming out there, and I'm like, okay, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, you I mean, you'll see if I when I go through my story sometimes and you see who's watching your stories, like, get out.
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SPEAKER_02: That's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_02: It's pretty cool.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this guy's watching my stories.
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SPEAKER_02: You see that blue check mark?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like, oh, it's that guy.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's that guy.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I watch this guy, I love his movies, I love that.
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SPEAKER_02: And like, so I'm like, whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, I I mean I don't get you know, the problem is most people get faced by celebrities, but my whole life, my whole business, I dealt with these guys.
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SPEAKER_02: So a celebrity to me is no different than you and I.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, um, and I treat them like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think that people feel more comfortable with me than somebody that's a fanboy or a fangirl.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: I I don't give a shit if you're Michael Jackson or your other person.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you breathe the same way, you eat the same way as I do.
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SPEAKER_02: Fair enough.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a great way of looking at it.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, it's once you get past that mindset of, you know, oh, I'm starstruck, and it's a matter of just they're just you know in a different field.
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SPEAKER_00: They're they're just doing, you know, that's their business, doing something really good.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you touched on your your career and you know, kind of where you came from.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: And you've shared the story over and over again, so we don't have to dive too much into detail.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: But I do want to give people at home a little bit of background.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.
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SPEAKER_00: You were a former luxury car dealer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh you served prison time following a federal wire fraud conviction.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh a case that you continue to argue was uh mishandled by the government, right?
11:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, without a doubt.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'll explain it to you.
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SPEAKER_02: So I got into business when I was 18 years old.
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SPEAKER_02: I became very successful at a very young age.
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SPEAKER_00: You were on the East Coast at this time?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in Jersey, right?
11:11
SPEAKER_02: I got into the business very young.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, and my business was exotic cars.
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SPEAKER_02: And I happened to be at the right place at the right time.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh China had just opened up.
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SPEAKER_02: Nobody had figured out that, hey, you know what, they're buying a lot of cars, and I'm shipping over 150 cars a month to China back when nobody even thought about China.
11:27
SPEAKER_02: Um so I never in my life had ever had a complaint.
11:31
SPEAKER_02: And in 2013, my son passed away.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: And when you know, when your son passes away, you all of a sudden start to think about life.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: You're like, shit, you know, why?
11:40
SPEAKER_02: And my wife didn't, you know, handle it well as anybody would when you nobody wants to bury their child, right?
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SPEAKER_02: So at that point, because Vegas is a place I did a lot of business with since I was 19 years old.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: This was I spent I got engaged here, got married here, I spent one week a month out here since I was 19 years old.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: And uh I said to somebody I trusted, I said, You're gonna handle my business, I'm leaving.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going taking my wife and I'm going to Vegas.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: And in an 11-month period, I ended up um that person stole$4 million from me.
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SPEAKER_02: And the$4 million turned into$8 million.
12:11
SPEAKER_02: And I thought I cleaned up the mess.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: So what happened is all of a sudden all these people are coming to me and they say, Hey, I owe you the money.
12:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't fucking know who you are.
12:18
SPEAKER_02: Who are these people?
12:19
SPEAKER_02: So while I was gone, this person decided to set up a side business.
12:23
SPEAKER_02: And this guy at one point was one of the largest luxury car dealers in the world.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: He got arrested because he was selling drugs and got busted in a big ring.
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SPEAKER_02: And instead, I didn't realize this.
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SPEAKER_02: He never went to prison.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't he go to prison?
12:37
SPEAKER_02: I didn't pay attention at that time.
12:39
SPEAKER_02: So while his case was ongoing, I brought him, I said, Yeah, you know what, you need a place to work, you work for me, you know the business, whatever.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: He started a side business where he was lending money to people.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: And what he was doing was so he'd go to you and say, I need you to give me four million dollars.
12:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna put it on the streets.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: And so now she comes and she goes, I have a car, but I need uh money right away.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't go to the bank.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, Well, your car is worth$100,000.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give you$60,000.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh you got 90 days to pay it back at 29% interest.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: And if not, then it's gonna go to my my friend Bobby's dealership and we're gonna sell it.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: And so far, this is a this is all legal.
13:13
SPEAKER_02: This is all totally legal, but he's doing this on the side.
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SPEAKER_02: I have no idea that he's doing this.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: But now he's borrowing money from you, right?
13:20
SPEAKER_02: So what's happening is cars are coming to my dealership, we're selling the cars.
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SPEAKER_02: My employees are selling the cars, and you know, our customers are buying them, so on and so on.
13:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, when I get back, what's happening?
13:29
SPEAKER_02: My title clerk says to me, She goes, We're missing some titles.
13:32
SPEAKER_02: So, what titles?
13:33
SPEAKER_02: She goes, Well, all you know, we get a title for one car, we don't get for two, and so on and so on.
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SPEAKER_02: So, well, where are these cars coming from?
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, they all came from him.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, okay.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: Next thing you know, I got a phone call from somebody and asked me, the guy asked me, he goes, Is this Ferrari still there?
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SPEAKER_02: So the car sold six months ago.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: He goes, No, no, no, I was told the car's still there.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: I said, Who told you this?
13:52
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not gonna mention the guy's name.
13:54
SPEAKER_02: And he said, Well, he did.
13:55
SPEAKER_02: I said, I own the dealership.
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SPEAKER_02: The car's off my books, it's gone.
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SPEAKER_02: Five minutes later, I get a phone call.
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SPEAKER_02: Put the car back on your website.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Why would I put a sold car back on my website?
14:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, because I need you to do it.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: I'll talk to you later about it.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: And then I realized what was happening.
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SPEAKER_02: What he was doing is he was borrowing money from you, and he's saying that car that this woman's putting on is gonna be collateral.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: And if she doesn't pay back, then he goes to Bobby's dealership and Bobby will sell it, and then I will take the money and repay you back plus the profit, right?
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:24
SPEAKER_02: But what's happening is he's not even waiting for her to pay back the loan.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: He's instantly selling the car to us.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: We're selling him the car, we're selling the car, giving him the money.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: He's also collecting loan payments from them, but he pays you back once, then he doesn't pay you for two cars, and he pays you, and he's just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: So now you're coming to me and says, Well, you owe me money.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't know you.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: You didn't even give me money, you gave it to him.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: She's coming, I paid off my loan.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: Where's my car?
14:50
SPEAKER_02: And this customer that we sold the car to is like, where's my title?
14:52
SPEAKER_02: But you're holding the title.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: So my lawyer's like, You're fucked.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: You got to clean this mess up.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: So we clean up the mess.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: I thought everything is good.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: I told you to go fuck yourself.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: I told her to go fuck yourself, and I said, I'll handle you.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: You're my problem.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: That's it, right?
15:06
SPEAKER_02: Because you didn't give me money, you didn't give me the car.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh, even though your car ended up here, I don't have a contract with you.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: So people are all bashing me.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm on because I have celebrity clients, I'm in the limelight.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, I get a phone call from the bank, and the bank says, You owe us five titles for five cars.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: What year is this?
15:23
SPEAKER_02: This is in two 2014 at this point, right?
15:26
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, which cars?
15:27
SPEAKER_02: And they give me a list, five more cars from this guy.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: And I said to the bank, now this is a bank I've done millions upon millions of dollars of business.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: It's only 800 grand.
15:35
SPEAKER_02: In my business, 800 grand is not a lot of money.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: But I just blew through millions of dollars and I'm cash poor at the moment.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: I've got assets, but I'm cash poor, and my business takes a lot of money because then any given day, you got, look, I got to buy a$400,000 car.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: I buy two cars today.
15:49
SPEAKER_02: I just blew through$800,000.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: So I said to the bank, I need a 30-day extension.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: Either I'm buying the cars back from you guys or you're gonna get the titles.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: The bank said, no, cut me off.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: On top of that, they were my line of credit, cut off my line of credit.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: They cut off my ability to write loans.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: They also floor planned my inventory and they picked up my inventory.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: So now I have a dealership with no cars.
16:10
SPEAKER_02: I can't finance cars, I can't even write you a loan if you wanted to buy a car.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, and they call the state, the state suspended my license.
16:17
SPEAKER_02: The state picks up the phone and calls the uh FBI, who the feds I had beaten years ago in another case, and I walked away.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: And so now the feds are looking at that.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, this is a celebrity car dealer, guy drives around in town in a Rolls-Royce with two bodyguards.
16:32
SPEAKER_02: This guy makes for a great headline.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I'm not going down for this shit.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: In that period, a judge asked me for$100,000.
16:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm giving you Cliff Notes right now.
16:40
SPEAKER_02: This is great.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: I gave he asked me for$100,000 and said, if you ever get charged with a crime, when you get come to my courtroom, I'll make sure that you get bail and dismiss your indictment.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: And at that point, one of my attorneys, who um happens to be a really good mob attorney, said to me, Your life just ended today.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: He goes, the moment a judge asks you for a bribe, either you're being set up or you're fucked.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: And he goes, You need to find a non-extradition country, because I'm gonna paint the I'm gonna paint a picture for you.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna arrest you, they're gonna pull you out of your house and your underwear.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: He goes, they're gonna seize your assets without even charging you.
17:14
SPEAKER_02: Then they're gonna charge you for it.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: He goes, now how are you gonna pay for bail?
17:17
SPEAKER_02: How you gonna pay for me?
17:18
SPEAKER_02: How you gonna take care of your family?
17:19
SPEAKER_02: He goes, now you're gonna be facing 20 years in prison because it's a bank case, right?
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Bank fraud.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: He goes, now what's gonna end up happening is you're in there for two years while waiting to go to trial.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna come to you and say, You're facing 20 years in prison, but we'll make you a deal, 10 years in prison.
17:33
SPEAKER_02: He goes, Do you wanna do that?
17:34
SPEAKER_02: I said, Absolutely not.
17:36
SPEAKER_02: He goes, Everything you've ever known just ended today.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: Your wife, your kids, your clothes, your homes, your business, your reputation, it's all gone.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: He goes, the moment somebody asks you for a bribe, your life ended.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: So I said, What do I do?
17:49
SPEAKER_02: He goes, Do you know any non-extradition countries?
17:51
SPEAKER_02: I said, I do business in all of them.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
17:53
SPEAKER_02: He goes, Well, pick a fucking country and get the fuck out.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: Really?
17:56
SPEAKER_02: He goes, but now.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: And I'm giving you like cliff notes, right?
17:59
SPEAKER_02: You're getting uh you're not getting the whole conversation and stuff.
18:03
SPEAKER_02: Um and that was the day I had no choice but to leave the country and leave it to my lawyers to handle everything.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Where'd you go?
18:10
SPEAKER_02: And I went to Dubai.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, and for 10 years I fought my case.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: I fought five years from Dubai.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: I forced my way into an embassy because after 27 attempts to surrender, I had to finally go on Fox News and says, How am I not in custody?
18:24
SPEAKER_02: I've done everything I could to get in c uh, you know, you know, surrender.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: They won't accept my surrender.
18:29
SPEAKER_02: Meanwhile, the government's telling the people we don't know where he's at, but they're an email, they're emailing my lawyer uh for years.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: There, I actually would pick up the phone and call the U.S.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: attorney, have a conversation and post it online and say, These guys lie to you guys and say we don't know where Bobby's at, but they're having a conversation.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: And here's the recording, right?
18:48
SPEAKER_02: And um, I forced my way into an embassy, made them arrest me, made them bring me home, came home, put me in custody for eight months, and after eight months they came and said, We'll dismiss all your charges.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: They had they indicted me on five counts, which was not providing the bank five titles, which is what I admitted from day one.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: I said, I owe the bank 800 grand, which was not a big deal in my business.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: 800 grand was a drop in a bucket, but I had a bad month.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: And I said, I just needed an extension.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: So I said, I agree to that.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: And they said, as long as you plead guilty that you didn't give the bank one title, we'll let you out of uh jail tomorrow and you'll get time served.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: So my wife said, This has been six years, millions of dollars gone, your reputation, everything's destroyed.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Just make it go away.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: And I pled guilty and I became a felon that day, and I walked out of jail, and instead of in because the U.S.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: attorney was so pissed off, because here's the thing they get very personal, right?
19:45
SPEAKER_02: So they never got to get the picture of me in my handcuffs.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: Being pulled out of my house at six in the morning.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: Then I I left on my own.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: I came home on my own.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: They hate that, that you dictated the terms.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: They didn't get to dictate the terms.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: And now they realize they realize I'm not gonna get prison time.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: So now they put me on an ankle monitor and put me in my house for 32 months because they kept delaying my case so I couldn't go get sentenced.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: After 32 months, I go to court and the judge looks at me, who's like 80 years old, has no idea who the fuck I am, and says to me, He goes, You haven't been taught a lesson yet.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm sending you to prison.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm not supposed to go to prison, I'm supposed to get time served.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, they sent me to prison for 24 months.
20:30
SPEAKER_02: I was supposed to get time served, so he goes, I'll give you the credit for the eight months, and so this way I only have to do four months because the first step back says I only have to do 50% in custody, then I do time in a halfway house, and then I'm released.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: But you have to get vaccinated.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: This is in 2020 or what?
20:45
SPEAKER_02: Yep, 2020.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't want to get vaccinated.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, if you don't get vaccinated, I'm gonna send you to a higher uh security prison.
20:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a murderer, I'm not El Chapo.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, they vaccinated me, right?
20:56
SPEAKER_02: They vaccinated me and sent me to prison.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they lost my paperwork.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: How does the fucking federal government lose the paperwork?
21:03
SPEAKER_02: They kept me in prison for four months longer than I was supposed to be.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: So now I ended up doing 16 months in custody, then I was released and I had to go to a halfway house.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: And when it was all said and done, I ended up almost doing my whole sentence.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: When most people don't do a fraction of it, all because they wanted to fuck with me.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: And sounds like they did.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: It sounds like they definitely did fuck with you.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: What do you look so for for your voters then?
21:28
SPEAKER_00: How do you get them to or what do you want them to think of?
21:32
SPEAKER_00: Because obviously having a a record like this isn't too a public record like this isn't too common for people who are running for whatever position they're they're running for.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: But in in your specific instance, when you're running for Nevada's first congressional district, what do you want the voters to think of?
21:49
SPEAKER_00: Or how do you want the voters to look past your your past I I don't want them to look past it.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: I opened with my thing because I wouldn't be running for office if I didn't go through that because I realized our justice system.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Is so corrupt, our justice system is overzealous.
22:03
SPEAKER_02: We have 80 million Americans with a criminal record in this country.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: We have an 87% recidivism rate.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: If the president of the United States can be a convicted felon, the rest of us are all screwed.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: If a billionaire ex-president can be charged with a crime and be dragged through and fingerprinted, then you and I don't stand a chance.
22:20
SPEAKER_02: The Patriot Act was the worst thing that happened to America because they said we're going to stuff everything in there for your safety.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: And what they did was asset forfeiture without a criminal conviction.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: That means that they can hit one button and take your money and never charge you with a crime.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: How is that legal?
22:36
SPEAKER_02: They can wiretap your phones and never need a warrant.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: How's that legal?
22:42
SPEAKER_02: Our justice isn't, you're fighting somebody that prints their own money and won two world wars.
22:47
SPEAKER_02: How does an average American doesn't have five million dollars to fight the federal government?
22:52
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
22:53
SPEAKER_02: So the moment they charge you, you're done, your life's over.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: And on top of that, they control the narrative because they put it out to the press.
23:00
SPEAKER_02: And by the time you even get to court, the whole world thinks the worst of you.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: So I said, Well, here, I don't care what you think about me.
23:09
SPEAKER_02: Here's my past.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: This is what it is.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't be running for office if it if I didn't go through that.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: But because I went through that, I know all the other problems that are wrong with this country.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: And here's the issues.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: So here's my past, here's my dirty laundry.
23:21
SPEAKER_02: Now let me go focus on the issues that are out here because I'm the only one that has had to endure that.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: If I can endure that, I can definitely deal with a bunch of idiot politicians.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: I also understand what other people go through.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: I understand what the billionaire goes through because that guy was my client.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: I also know what the drug dealer goes through when he leaves prison because I sat and had dinners with him every night while I was in prison and in jail.
23:45
SPEAKER_02: So I understand people.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: I understand what they're going through.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Who are you running against in the first place?
23:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm running against some old uh carpet bag.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, whatever I wouldn't call her.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: She's a bag lady.
23:55
SPEAKER_02: Uh Dina Titus.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: She's 78 years old.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: She doesn't even know if she changed her diapers today or not.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever seen her walk?
24:05
SPEAKER_02: You hear the diapers.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: I have not seen Dina Titus walk out.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: She doesn't do the bobby walk if I'll tell you that.
24:11
SPEAKER_02: There's a reason why she won't get on stage with me.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine you put her on stage with me?
24:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they're gonna look at her and be like, wow, is she alive?
24:19
SPEAKER_02: It's like weekend at Bernie's.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you what, though, with the with the way Trump has pres uh come out in in public and done these debates and has spoken in a way that most people don't expect politicians to speak.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Famously with her with him against Hillary Clinton up on stage, like the things he he said to her, they made national headlines, but in the end, he still ended up winning.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like you know why?
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Why people are tired of the curated bullshit?
24:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, nobody believes that the guy stands up there with a woman in a pearl necklace, the two kids and the dog.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: When I see these campaign videos and they're walking their dog, let me fucking tell you something.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: I love my dogs.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: I have three dogs.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: I fucking love them.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't have time to walk them.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: My kids walk them.
25:04
SPEAKER_02: I've never gone for a walk with my wife and my kids and my dog.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: So when you put that out there, that's bullshit.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: You don't believe it.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't believe it.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: You know the thing is, people are raw.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: There's no what is perfection?
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Nobody's perfect.
25:15
SPEAKER_02: The moment you tell me that you present this image of you being this perfect state.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you, you know, I went to Washington, D.C., and I sat with these, you know, these uh elected officials, and the guy says to me, he goes, I don't understand you.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't understand why people like you.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: I said, What do you mean people like me?
25:30
SPEAKER_02: He goes, You're smoking cigars, you got women in your Instagram post.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: I said, here's the difference between you and I.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: I said, first off, I'm representing Sin City, okay?
25:40
SPEAKER_02: But I said, when you come to Vegas and you land on your private jet lands in Vegas, I said, Who do you think manages that private jet terminal?
25:49
SPEAKER_02: My friends.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: I said, when you get in that private black escalade, who do you think owns that?
25:53
SPEAKER_02: My friend.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: I said, when you go to the strip club, who do you think owns that strip club?
25:57
SPEAKER_02: My friend.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: And I said, those girls that you're making fun of are the girls giving you lap dances.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: I said, but the difference between you and I is, I said, those girls come to my events and I have no problem posting them publicly because they work in this town, they need a voice, and I represent them.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: But you go to church on Sunday and you stand there with your wife and you pretend you're a holy roller.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: But you were just getting lap dances and doing blow off the fucking asses of strippers the night before.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: It's like that seeing a casino.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: I said, and that's the difference between you and I.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: And I said, that's why people appreciate me, because I'll drop the F bomb.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: I will go out there and say, these are my people because these are the people that need a voice.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not standing around with country club millionaires and billionaires and saying, these are the only people's voices I'm going to listen to.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: I said, nobody owns me.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Everybody else is owned.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: They're told how to stand, how to speak, what to say, and they talk down to people.
26:48
SPEAKER_02: Name one politician in this entire town that is willing to go out there and answer anybody's question at any given time.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: We'll go into, you know, the opposite party's event and say, ask me the questions.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: No one.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm the only one that does it.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: Name one politician.
27:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, and even the ones that you announced that you mentioned that you did, I've commented on their posts and they'll delete my comments.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Really?
27:12
SPEAKER_02: They won't even answer them.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, how about this?
27:14
SPEAKER_02: Why don't you answer this question?
27:16
SPEAKER_02: No answer.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: I invited Aaron Ford.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: I said, why don't you come on my channel?
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: I invited Lombardo.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: I invited every single one of them.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: Nobody will do it.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Why?
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Because they need a handler.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: They need somebody to tell them what to say.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess we'll find out if that's a winning strategy.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, look, win or lose, what I've done is look, I went against the grain.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: I did went independent.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: I didn't spend any money.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: But for be able to reach 94 million people, what I did was I built a base.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: Right.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, even if I don't win this election, I won.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:51
SPEAKER_02: I got my word out there.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: I got the message out there.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: And now people are awake and they're like, hey, that's right.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: And there's other people waking up and saying, I can do this and I can do that.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: And if I can help one person, I've done my job.
28:03
SPEAKER_02: That's what basically what it is.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: I had to wake up the people and say, there's a problem, here's the problems, and here's the you know the solutions.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: And you never know what could come of it.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about one of your stances.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: It's on eliminating certain taxing.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Now let's talk about this.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: You want to eliminate taxes on veteran income, which I love, retirement income, and gambling winnings.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Have you calculated how much that would be?
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so let's just put like forget for example federal gambling uh gambling taxes, right?
28:26
SPEAKER_02: If you were to eliminate$17 billion, you know, our government, no matter how much money you give them, they're gonna blow it.
28:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's never gonna be enough for them.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: But how about we cut the fat someplace?
28:35
SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, we could use that.
28:38
SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't have to pay taxes on your gambling winnings, let's just say you want$100,000.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: When it's all in, let's just say$27,000 to$37,000 in taxes you're paying.
28:47
SPEAKER_02: You put that money back in the economy.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: You might gamble some more, you might go buy dinner, you might go buy a car, you might go buy a watch, you might go to a club, you're gonna tip your waitresses, your dealers, and all that stuff.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: We got to put money back into the economy.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm about more money into the economy than to the government.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: The problem is you could give them$100 trillion and they're still gonna find a way to be broke because most of these people have never run businesses.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: They have no concept of how to spend money.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, so the more you have, the more they're gonna promise people.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Take, give them less and make them do without.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: But we could use it because we'll use it in a better way.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: So let's let's talk about a scenario then.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: So, according to the late latest Convention of Visitors Authority, out-of-town tourists account for about 30 31 million people, uh gamblers annually here.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: Vastly outnumbering the city's 2.3 million population.
29:36
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: If there is a tax-free gambling on winnings, we can't just assume that money is going to go right back into the gaming industry, though, right?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: But it's go, yeah.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: And because a lot of gamblers are visitors and here for the short term.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, explain to me how the the tax-free or the tax cuts would boost the the Vegas economy.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, here, think about it.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're not living here, but they're while they're here, they have more money to think.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Because right now, when you win, they hold the money, right?
30:01
SPEAKER_02: But now you they give you the money, they might go gamble right away.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: They may go, they will tip the waitress.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: They will tip the dealer because now they have more money in their pocket.
30:10
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they may not buy the car in this town, or but they may spend money elsewhere.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: So that does put money back in their pockets.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: It does put money into the local economy because more money in that waitress's pocket or that dealer's pocket is more money that's being spent in town here.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: Or more money in the casino's pocket.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: You experience obviously you experienced the being incarcerated and that whole ordeal that you just explained.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, a lot of people do take issue with our mass incarceration.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Incarceration, yeah.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: We're the most prisoners per capita in the world.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: Talk to us about your stance on it.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: So here's what we do.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: Look, we don't have, you know, I was talking to a woman who runs a bank, and she says, just let's just lock them all up, right?
30:46
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Lock who up?
30:47
SPEAKER_02: She goes, she goes, you know, all these people out there causing all this crime in the cities and stuff like that.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: I said, so okay, that's great.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: You lock them all up, but then what happens when they have to leave prison?
30:56
SPEAKER_02: I said, there's a reason why we have an 87% recidivism rate.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: Our justice system is designed to, everybody says, let's just lock everybody up.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: But then what do you do with them people?
31:05
SPEAKER_02: But here's what you do.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: In this country, you get a scarlet letter for life.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: Once you're like, I'm a convicted felon, right?
31:12
SPEAKER_02: If I wanted to go work for Uber, I can't.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: If I want to work for McDonald's, I can't work for McDonald's.
31:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm a convicted felon.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: So what happens is you get released from prison with$25.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: But there's nothing you can do.
31:22
SPEAKER_02: You can't get a job anywhere.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: So eventually you're hungry.
31:25
SPEAKER_02: You got to feed your kids.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: So what do you do?
31:27
SPEAKER_02: You're back on the corner selling drugs.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: You're doing break-ins, you're doing this, and then you're right back inside again.
31:32
SPEAKER_02: It's a vicious cycle, and that's why 87% of the people that leave prison end up back in prison because there's no opportunity for them.
31:40
SPEAKER_02: You know, not everybody has done a you know millions of dollars in business and has all these connections where they can go out and do something.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: Most people don't have that.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: So what I'm saying is, look, we have two problems in this country.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: We no longer build anything in this country, but we won World War II because we built stuff here.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: We can build our own, we built our tanks, we built all this stuff, but now everything is being farmed in, bring, you know, from China and wherever else.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Like what happened during COVID?
32:04
SPEAKER_02: When I was shut down, we couldn't get stuff at stores.
32:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: People were panicking.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: We couldn't buy cars.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Cars became so expensive.
32:11
SPEAKER_02: So I said, well, let's take two problems and fix it.
32:14
SPEAKER_02: We take, we go to companies and say, well, let's bring manufacturing back to America.
32:18
SPEAKER_02: We'll give you tax credits.
32:19
SPEAKER_02: But what you do is you have four and a half million people sitting in prisons.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: You have another four and a half million people on probation.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: And then you have about 80 million people total that have criminal records.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: You go hire the people that are in prison, and that are people that are on probation.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Let's just say the people that are in prison.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: Right now, they're sitting in prison, they're learning bad habits.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: They're, you know, their families have to send them money to put on their books.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: Their families outside are on welfare or whatever because there's nobody out there making money for them.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: Now, what we do is we say, all right, if you're a nonviolent offender, like you're not a pedophile, you're not a rapist or a murderer, you're in there.
32:52
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna put you to work.
32:54
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna pay you minimum wage tax-free.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: So now, whatever, if it's$15 an hour, you get the$15 an hour.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: You learn to trade.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: You work for these companies.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: These companies are now building stuff here for substantially less than what they would normally pay.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Because if like General Motors is paying$90 an hour labor, now they can hire somebody for$15 an hour.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: Now they can be competitive with China and Japan and Korea, right?
33:15
SPEAKER_02: Or let's just say a furniture company or a chip company or whatever.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: These people are now learning something in prison.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: They're making money, they're sending money home to their families.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: Or if they don't have families, they're saving that money.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: When they leave prison, they leave with money in their pocket so they can get a home, they can get a car.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: When you did the crime, you did the time.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: When you walk out of prison, all your rights should be reversed.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: So now you can go back and you can get a license to be a real estate agent.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: You can go work at a McDonald's, you can go there.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: What we do is we you we punish them for life.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: It's a life sentence.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: So if we change that, you now took 80 million Americans, which is one in five Americans, and you made and you use them to be competitive with the rest of the world.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: If one fifth of our population is basically just living in purgatory, how are they supposed to compete?
34:01
SPEAKER_02: How are we supposed to compete with China or the economies of you know India, which is blowing up?
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Or when you see the Middle East is building skyscrapers faster than anything else, but we can't even build a road in six years.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: That's a problem.
34:13
SPEAKER_02: And so I'm like, okay, so now the recidivism rate's gonna go down.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: The people in prison are actually going to be reformed because they most people commit crimes because there's no opportunity, right?
34:24
SPEAKER_02: There's no money.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: So they have no choice and they go create.
34:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's some people are just assholes and they're gonna go do what they do.
34:29
SPEAKER_02: But most people that end up in prison is because of uh lack of opportunities.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: So we're giving them opportunities.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: We're also now building our future where we build everything here and we control manufacturing, and no country has a hold over us.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: We could say we build everything here like we used to back in the day.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Is it hard for you to look at people, certain people, like for example, you you mentioned like it's a life sentence, even though you're you may only serve X amount of beers?
34:54
SPEAKER_00: Um but it definitely is a stain on on that.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm always gonna be a convicted felon.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: When you look at somebody like Mike Vick, for example, who famously went to prison for the Used to be my customer.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: Are you able to look at him and and say, okay, he served his time, he you know did his due diligence and now he's out and he's uh a new man?
35:12
SPEAKER_02: Or do you always look at him as the the well society will always look at him as like you know, the animal abuser.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:19
SPEAKER_02: But people reform, people change.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: Some people do, some people don't, right?
35:23
SPEAKER_02: And I I mean, having met Michael and talked to him after he left prison, I know he's a changed man.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: You know, and and and he loves his animals now.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: And you know, look, at the end of the day, who you were when you were in your 20s is not who you are in your 40s.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm a whole different man.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: I am too.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, like what I was when I was 20, I was when I was 21 years old, I was an arrogant piece of shit.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: But now I'm a whole different person.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: Right.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, because life teaches you lessons.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: Like you a lot of times when you see somebody and they're like 75, 80 years old, and you're like, I wonder why this person is what he is.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: But it's life makes you that way.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: It's everything you go through.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, one little instance can completely change you as a person.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: And I I know the reason I'm running for office is I got tired.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: I never cared about what people wanted or what people were going through in my 20s.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: Because I was a kid that had money.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm driving around in Lamborghini's and flying on jets, and you know, I'm living a good life.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: Why would I care what the struggles of the world were?
36:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't until I went through everything and I realized, holy shit, there's people that are suffering.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: And you know what?
36:26
SPEAKER_02: Most people don't have what it takes to fight.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: But I love fighting.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, I'm gonna fight now.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:31
SPEAKER_02: And that's what woke me up.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, you can know anything I've ever done, here you go.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: This is my dirty laundry.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: You you know, I don't care about bad headlines.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't care about what people's opinions are of me.
36:43
SPEAKER_00: You talked about being uh or animal lover, and one of the things I your your stances uh are are on is we've faced multiple attempts from the federal government to lift the ban on the Bureau of Land Management killing wild horses.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh why is the protection of wild horses so important to you?
37:00
SPEAKER_02: Think about love.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: We every day we lose a piece of America, right?
37:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: And now we're gonna lose horses.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm an animal lover.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: If it, you know, uh I stand up for the voiceless and the voiceless and animals.
37:11
SPEAKER_02: Look, I always say this I tolerate humans, but I love animals.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: How could you not love an animal?
37:16
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: If you can't love an animal, you're a piece of shit.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't trust anybody that doesn't love an animal, right?
37:22
SPEAKER_02: And I don't trust anybody anyway, but if you don't love an animal, I'll never trust you at all.
37:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, and here we are, like, you know, in this country, we keep making promises to people and then we break them.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: We did it with the natives, we did it with this.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: And now in 1971, President Nixon signed the Wild Horse and Burroughs Act, and that said that he was dedicating 53 million acres to the wild horses.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: They could run freely.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: And the population was 27,000.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: It was down from 2 million.
37:48
SPEAKER_02: But now the population went up to 90,000 over time, which is not a lot on 53 million acres.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Right.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: But what happens is politicians get greedy and people go to them and say, We're going to donate money to your campaign.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: I need a piece of land.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: All right, great.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Next thing you know, the BLM is signing off a piece of land.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: They're signing off that piece of land and then that land.
38:08
SPEAKER_02: And all of a sudden the horses are like getting moved and moved and moved, and they're like, well, now just get rid of all of them.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: Right.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: But why?
38:14
SPEAKER_02: That's their land.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: It was dedicated to them.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: That law said that land was theirs.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: So now we're going to eliminate this country wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the horses.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: Because when the settlers came here, how did they travel?
38:26
SPEAKER_02: There was no cars.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: They traveled on horse.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: The horses played a huge part in building this country.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: And now we're saying, let's just take them all and ship them to slaughter.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: What do we have left?
38:37
SPEAKER_02: My kids won't know what a wild horse is.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: When I drive up to Reno, those horses are gone.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't see them.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: So I've been fighting for this fight before I even ran for office.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: For six years I've been talking about this.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you can't kill the horses.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: You can't end it.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: And already, we've basically, by 2028, these wild horses will no longer exist.
38:55
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be gone.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Because the horses that they're putting back on the land, they've been sterilized.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: So there's no future for them.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: Right.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: And eventually they're gonna be gone, and another piece of America that we loved is gone.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you have to say, you know what, it's their land too.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: It's not just our world.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: We're on this world and we share this world with the animals and whatever not.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I'll fight for them, either win or lose.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: One of the other things that you uh it's it's it's blatantly obvious is we're facing water cuts from the Colorado River.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: And we actually had Susie Leon, like we said, and I'm curious to get your take on this.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: It's about forty seconds, so bear with me.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully you can hear this.
40:29
SPEAKER_02: So here's what I said.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh I posted a video a couple of days ago.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: First off, somebody actually has to go and say, fight with the federal government and say, this law is a hundred and some years old at this point.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: Let's just fucking rip it apart.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: California, when this law was signed, we had no population here.
40:45
SPEAKER_02: Everybody, this is our water.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: California, you need to now go and set up a desalination plant.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: You need to set up your own pipelines.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: If they could do it in Saudi Arabia and they can do it in the UAE and Qatar, those are deserts that are on the water and they have water for their people.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with you.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: You have water.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: But the problem is you have all these regulators and are going to be like, no, no, we can't build a pipeline because it's going to affect the farting habits of this mosquito and stuff like that.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: We have to get to a point that somebody has to be the big boy and say, I'm going to piss off every lobby there is, and we're going to green light this and get this done.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: You have to get your own water.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: It's not your this is no longer your what happened 100 years ago, we didn't have the technology, but we now have the technology where you can use that ocean water for yourself to water your lawns and stuff.
41:30
SPEAKER_02: Why are we getting squeezed every day?
41:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, and uh and but nobody wants to piss off anybody because it's all about campaign dollars.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants to piss off the green lobby because you're not gonna get money.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants to piss off the developers, nobody, but somebody has to say, you know what, I'm not worried about re-election.
41:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna say what I have to say.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: And here, like I said, I'm not doing this for more than one term.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm done.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: One term and I'm done.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: I want to go out there and I want to just rock the boat.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: You're a one and done?
41:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm one and done.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: You think I want to be in Washington, D.C.?
41:58
SPEAKER_02: I hate the East Coast.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: I left the East Coast because I can't stand it.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: There's those potholes can swallow an F-350.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: I like walking outside and seeing the Vegas strip when I walk out my balcony at night and I see the strip at night.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: That's what I love.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: That's fair.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: I like smoking my cigars in the casinos.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: I like, you know, this uh skyline.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: You think I want to be in that cesspool?
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Two things I want, two things I I want you to teach me, and I want to learn from you is your cigar game and your suit game because you are a very well-styled man.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Do you do you have a tailor or is this all you?
42:28
SPEAKER_00: No, no or your wife?
42:29
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, no, no.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: I I pick my own clothes.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: Like I pick my I pick the fabrics, I pick all that stuff.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: Nobody dresses me.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: And my wife would know how to dress me.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: You see my wife, my wife, I love her to death, but she wears leggings and sweatshirts every day.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: Where is she?
42:41
SPEAKER_02: I thought she'd be here, but no, she's home.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: She's home.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's home.
42:44
SPEAKER_02: But uh, yeah, no, I've my whole life, I've always been.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: I love suits.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I've never worn jeans in my life.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: And and the thing is I wish more people would dress up.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: And I I even hate when I see people wearing suits, and I'm like, really?
42:56
SPEAKER_02: You fucked up that suit.
42:57
SPEAKER_02: Like most people, you know, you can give somebody a$5,000 suit and they'll find a way to fuck it up.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sure.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: And then somebody that has style could take a hundred dollar suit and make it look like a million bucks.
43:07
SPEAKER_02: And it's all about how it's the detail.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: The special details, right?
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you like I see people that wear shirt uh, you know, suits and their shirt collars are all bent, and they're like, where's your collar stakes?
43:16
SPEAKER_02: Or they're wearing shirts and they have no French cuffs.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: And like, well, you can't wear a suit with no French cuffs, you know, or they don't know how to tie a tie or colors, or they don't have a pocket square.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: You know, they got the wrong sock colour, you know.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: It makes a huge difference.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna sign up to the Bobby Khan newsletter of style.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a teacher.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't teach people.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: You know, I didn't even teach my kids how to drive.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: I said, You guys gotta go to drive driving school.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't have patience to teach people.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: You recently were pretty vocal about uh a dispute that you and MGM had.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: Can we talk about that for a little bit?
43:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so uh the MGM is run by a complete idiot named Bill Hornbuckle.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: And I'll say this out loud because he won't get on the phone.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: He should have picked up the phone and called me.
43:55
SPEAKER_02: Why are people afraid to talk to you face to face, or at least you know why?
43:59
SPEAKER_02: Because I have Common sense and I'll be direct.
44:01
SPEAKER_02: And here's the problem is most people.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: So here's the thing.
44:04
SPEAKER_02: Most people in this world aren't confrontational.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm a confrontational person.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: I've never met somebody that can actually look me in the face and actually get loud with me and think that they're gonna walk out of that room if you get loud with me.
44:17
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I like to fight both in the law and courtrooms and also in person.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: I have no problem.
44:22
SPEAKER_02: I've been to prison.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: I've been there, done that.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: So if I have to spend a night because I piss somebody piss me off, I'll do it.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: No problem.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: So here's the thing.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: I go out there and I see, you know, I see all these influencers out there, bitching and moaning.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: Before I announce my run, they're all complaining about the parking fees.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: They're parking the$52 pizzas and the$15 bottles of water and this and this.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: So I said, great.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm you know, I see the same problems, I'm gonna speak about it.
44:45
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: When I started speaking about it, MGM didn't like it.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: And I think the icing on the cake was when I went into MGM one day and I was actually eating, I ordered a burger, and it was like obviously ridiculously priced.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: And then I walked out and it was event parking, and I took a picture, a video of the pricing that's at$140 for valet, and I posted it and I said, How I said, This is what's happening.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: MGM should have never been allowed to become this big.
45:12
SPEAKER_02: You should have never allowed one company to own so many casinos on the strip because now you have a duopoly.
45:18
SPEAKER_02: And now what it does is it hurts the employees because now they're controlling their money.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: Now, when the valet is a fifty, let's just say it's$50, right?
45:26
SPEAKER_02: The guy that used to get tips when the valet was free is no longer getting the tips that he used to make.
45:32
SPEAKER_02: So the valet's making less money.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: When the burger's$26, the waitress isn't gonna get the tip that she normally would have gotten.
45:38
SPEAKER_02: When, you know, when they go into the club and the club is so expensive, the barb girl, uh, you know, whatever their uh bartenders and all that, they're not gonna make the money.
45:46
SPEAKER_02: I said, so now you're stealing money out of the pockets of the people.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: Now what's happening is the customers are coming to town and they're not spending the money.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: And they people that used to come four or five times a year, they're not gonna come four or five times, they're gonna come once a year.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Right.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: So I said, now you're losing out on that revenue.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: I said, so yes.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: And then on top of that, you're giving them a, you know, charging them like you're the win, but you're not.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: Your properties are filthy.
46:09
SPEAKER_02: You can't actually, I can't charge you Rolls-Royce money when I'm giving you a Mercedes C class.
46:15
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't work.
46:16
SPEAKER_02: And then so if you're not giving them, it's common sense.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: If you want to charge people that kind of money, then give them that service.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: But you don't even you walk in there and your employees are walking around with a sour pushed face because they're miserable.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: They're not making the money that they did.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: And I said it all starts at the top.
46:31
SPEAKER_02: Bill Hornbucker was a marketing guy.
46:33
SPEAKER_02: He should have never been maybe a CEO, but now he's a CEO who thinks he's a god in running this town and he's doing it the wrong way.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: He's hurting this town, not helping this town.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: And for somebody that was raised here, you think that you would think about the people.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: You would think about how the future of this town's gonna look.
46:49
SPEAKER_02: Because what happens tomorrow if Xcaliber doesn't make the money or Luxor doesn't make the money?
46:54
SPEAKER_02: You know what MGM's gonna do?
46:56
SPEAKER_02: Let's just shut them down.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: Right.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: Now, what happens when you shut that down?
46:59
SPEAKER_02: You lose 5,000 jobs.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: Then all the vendors that supplied to them, they're gonna fire their employees.
47:04
SPEAKER_02: Now what happens is the tax revenue is gone, and the state's gonna come in and say, hey, we have casinos shutting down.
47:10
SPEAKER_02: We now need to implement a state income tax.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: How do you think that's gonna help you?
47:14
SPEAKER_02: Who's gonna pay for the services for the hospitals?
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Who's gonna pay for the roads?
47:18
SPEAKER_02: It's money that's you know derived from the casinos.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: And if you don't pay attention, I said, I've seen this playbook.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: It's called Atlantic City.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: Atlantic City had 14 casinos that were thriving, casino after casino.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: So the city was collecting all this tax revenue, the state was collecting the tax revenue, the city didn't invest back into the town, the state didn't look out for the casinos, the casinos didn't look out for the employees or the town, and they did they just suck the money out.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: They didn't pay attention to their properties, the property started getting, you know, decrepit looking, and people said, Well, why am I gonna go there?
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Right.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Vegas was, and like Steve Win always says, Vegas was a place where people came here to forget about everything.
47:57
SPEAKER_02: They came here, they got something for value, they lived out their wildest fantasies.
48:02
SPEAKER_02: It was a playground.
48:03
SPEAKER_02: It was a place where they can just come out and forget about everything for two, three days or whatever they were here, live like kings, eat like kings, party it up like it couldn't anywhere else, and then they left and they couldn't wait to come back.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: But now the people landing like what I was gonna spend in three days, I spent in one afternoon.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm not coming back.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: And I said, and when I said that, they didn't like it, and I got a letter that says you're banned from every MGM property, including T-Mobile Arena.
48:30
SPEAKER_02: So I can't even go watch the Golden Knights play.
48:33
SPEAKER_02: Because T M, and that's the problem, is when MGM has control over the stadium, yeah, they control everything.
48:39
SPEAKER_02: So now what I've when I got banned, I can't tell you how many influencers that you've had on your insta on your page refuse to go out and speak about it.
48:47
SPEAKER_02: They're like, oh shit.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Because I can tell you, I have the screenshots because people sent them DMs and said, hey, Bobby got banned.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: You should make a video about it.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: And the response was, I don't want to get banned.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna say anything.
48:58
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should tone it down a little bit.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's because they don't know enough about the story?
49:02
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not about they don't know enough about the story.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: I talk enough about it.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: The problem is most people don't have what it takes to stand up and fight.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: Most people want to fit in.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Most people need to fit in.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: And that's why you see people.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: Why do you think every jackass is walking around in the driving a G-Wagon and every woman's walking around in a Louis Vuitton bag, and every jerk off out there is wearing a Gucci belt and sneakers that look the same?
49:27
SPEAKER_02: Because they all need to look the same.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: They need to fit in.
49:30
SPEAKER_02: They have no sense of their own style.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: They're like, I want to be invited to that party.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Right.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever seen me go to any of those parties?
49:37
SPEAKER_02: I make I go to my own.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you host your own party.
49:40
SPEAKER_02: I own how yeah.
49:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to go to your party because I don't want to sit there and listen to a bunch of fake people.
49:44
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: You know, I went to an event last week I was invited to because the guy is a friend of mine.
49:49
SPEAKER_02: And, you know, this guy walked up to me, and I literally just called him out.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: I said, You're a wannabe.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: You wannabe fit in.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: You want to be this.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: And I said, I don't want to do that.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: So that's why I can speak up about MGM.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: I never went to MGM anyway.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: I went to I used to go to Bellagio once in a blue moon to see the decorations.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: The only issue I have with be being banned with uh going to MGM properties is not going to T-Mobile Arena.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, who the fuck wants to go to MGM?
50:16
SPEAKER_02: It's a shithole.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: You touched on Steve Wynn for a brief moment there.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like Steve is the greatest, most influential person that Vegas has ever had?
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: Steve is modern day Las Vegas.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: He he mixed old Vegas with a touch of New Vegas.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: And he married it together.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: And Steve Wynne is a legend because he had a vision and he had the attention to detail that people don't that people lack today.
50:44
SPEAKER_02: There's not a person in this town right now that actually has that attention to detail like the way he did.
50:49
SPEAKER_02: Right.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: He went, he went above and beyond.
50:52
SPEAKER_02: He imagined things that most people couldn't, and he brought them to life.
50:57
SPEAKER_02: And then people were like, oh, I didn't know that was possible.
50:59
SPEAKER_02: It was possible.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: Right.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: And you know, like, and he's one of those people that knows not an answer.
51:05
SPEAKER_02: There's a couple people.
51:07
SPEAKER_02: The other person like that is, you know, the ruler of Dubai.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: When he went to his people and he said, I want to build, you know, the World Islands or the palm tree in the middle of the ocean, they said it can't be done.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: He goes, figure it out and come back to me.
51:22
SPEAKER_02: And they came back to him 10 years later, they figured it out.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: But there's men like that that have a vision, they change things.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: They build things that are, you know, that we talk about for years.
51:32
SPEAKER_00: We had Jonathan Jostle on and he I love Jonathan.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: He's a great guy.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: We've actually had a few people on that you've recently posted about, but I'm gonna I'm gonna focus on Jonathan real quick.
51:40
SPEAKER_00: He said that we need another Steve Wynn at Wisdom.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: Do you do you feel like there is anybody that could have potential of being the next Steve Wynn for Vegas?
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, or not yet.
51:49
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I like Derek Derek Stevens.
51:52
SPEAKER_02: Derrick Stevens does a great job.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: Circa.
51:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, with Circa's a great Circa's a great property.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Um he does a good job.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: You know, um Alex Morello, who owns Sahara.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay, um, what he does, I've watched that man, and that man walks around, and you know, the attention of detail.
52:08
SPEAKER_02: If you walk into Sahara, people don't understand it.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: It's a clean property.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: Very clean.
52:13
SPEAKER_02: Right?
52:13
SPEAKER_02: And you know why?
52:14
SPEAKER_02: Like I remember one night, it was like 1.30 in the morning, and I'm walking around, here's Alex walking around in shorts and a t-shirt, picking up stuff off the floor because he saw it or he saw something wrong, and he's like, no, that has to be fixed.
52:26
SPEAKER_02: Steve Wynne used to do that.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: I remember walking into Encore one night at three o'clock in the morning, and Steve Wynn's, you know, when you walk into the valet at Encore and there's that table right there with the mirror?
52:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was standing there going like this and looking for dust.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: Now, this man's partially blind at that time, right?
52:42
SPEAKER_02: And he's looking for dust at three o'clock in the morning.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: Now you walk into Caesar's property, it's filthy.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: You go to Paris, I don't want to touch anything because there's nobody there.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: Because there's these guys are employees.
52:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't give a shit.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: Private equity doesn't care.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: Private equity is a cancer, and that cancer is eroding Vegas.
53:01
SPEAKER_02: And at the point, you can gamble anywhere.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: You need a reason to bring people to Vegas.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: They're not gonna come to dirty properties that are old, they're not gonna come when you're price gouging them.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna come, they have no problem paying.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: But you better give them something.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, they're not gonna come.
53:18
SPEAKER_02: They'll just say, I'll just go to my local Indian casino.
53:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, one other person that you posted about that is that we we've also had in the show, and I wasn't expecting him to be such a phenomenal, even just guest to have on.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but the CEO of Fremont Street Experiment.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, Cliff Jeff Atkinson.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: Awesome guy.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, great guy.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: He's such a great guy.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: And he kind of talked about, you know, people don't have a problem with price as long as you are getting the value.
53:43
SPEAKER_02: Right?
53:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, for example, in my business, people had no problem paying more if they felt like a big fish in a small pond.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: And I I I actually made a video yesterday, and I'm gonna tell you, I'll share a story.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: So when people go in and you, you know, like if I walk in someplace and you know me, you know what I like to eat, you know, like what I like to drink, I'll never ask about price.
54:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
54:03
SPEAKER_02: Because I know that I'm gonna get good service, right?
54:06
SPEAKER_02: But if your service is bad, then I'm gonna nickel and dime you and I'm gonna bitch your moan.
54:11
SPEAKER_02: I had a customer, I had a bunch of many customers that would come in, some of my best customers are the ones that never asked for about price.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: We wouldn't even talk about price.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: I knew this was his wife, this was his girlfriend, right?
54:22
SPEAKER_02: I like his mistress.
54:23
SPEAKER_02: I knew that he liked this, I knew that this was his hot button and that, right?
54:28
SPEAKER_02: And those guys were willing to pay up.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: That's the same thing.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: When Steve Wynn was here, people had no problem paying win prices because the experience was there.
54:39
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if you saw my video I posted this morning.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, I walked into one of these casinos on the strip like yesterday, and I walked past 10 guys that work there, all have badges on, they're all employees of the casino, and not one person smiled.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
54:54
SPEAKER_02: Constipated?
54:56
SPEAKER_02: Right?
54:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's a business where you smile, you make people feel welcome.
55:01
SPEAKER_02: And I'm watching them walk past customers, not a hello, not how are you?
55:06
SPEAKER_02: Do you need anything?
55:07
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: And I said, You're in the hospitality business and you're not hospitable.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: Like the first thing you're taught is when people are guests in your home or in your business, you're hospitable.
55:18
SPEAKER_02: You talk to them, you smile to them.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: No.
55:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, the gaming commission would never give me a license, but I would run a casino and I would run it as Steve Winsway.
55:26
SPEAKER_00: I would.
55:27
SPEAKER_00: You know, a wise man once said, I don't know where I heard this from.
55:29
SPEAKER_00: He said, make Vegas, Vegas again.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, me.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: I said that.
55:32
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
55:33
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
55:34
SPEAKER_02: We have to.
55:35
SPEAKER_02: It's my ringtone.
55:36
SPEAKER_02: You can't make Vegas, Vegas again.
55:38
SPEAKER_02: That's what we do.
55:39
SPEAKER_02: Listen, if if somebody gave me the opportunity to run a casino tomorrow, I would you know I would drop out of conference and go do it.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: I would run a casino and I would run a casino the old way.
55:49
SPEAKER_00: They would go through, I mean, we we had Cliff on, we had Jonathan on, and they talk about what it's like getting a gaming license.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they give you a colonoscopy.
55:55
SPEAKER_00: It's a colonoscopy, it really is.
55:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: Well, my everything about me is already out in the public.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: You're not going to hide.
56:01
SPEAKER_02: You can do what you want.
56:02
SPEAKER_00: Next Tuesday is election day, right?
56:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh Tuesday.
56:05
SPEAKER_00: What do you uh what are you going to be doing for on the actual day of election?
56:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'll be out meeting people like I always do every day.
56:10
SPEAKER_02: And then um I have a watch party.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: We're at uh at the Sahara.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
56:15
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: Love that.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: When you're let's say it all goes well, things work out for you, and you get elected.
56:21
SPEAKER_00: Give me one measurable result that you believe you can deliver in your first year.
56:26
SPEAKER_02: Zero taxes on gambling winnings.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: Everybody can get behind that.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: And the veterans.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: Zero uh full health care for veterans the moment you leave the military.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: That's one of the two things I will work on right away.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: I and I'm I think you've you've pretty much already answered this last question here.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: Um but if but if voters do remember one thing about your candidacy, what do you want it to be?
56:48
SPEAKER_00: I didn't give a fuck.
56:50
SPEAKER_02: I did it my way.
56:51
SPEAKER_02: Like Sinatra said.
56:52
SPEAKER_00: Like Sinatra.
56:53
SPEAKER_02: Yep, that's it.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: I didn't bow down to anybody, I didn't kiss any rings, nobody owned me, and I did it my way.
57:01
SPEAKER_02: Like I do everything in my way in my life.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: Listen, if things go well and you win, we're we're celebrating at the Peppermint Hippo, me, you and Derek.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: You heard it here first, Derek.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: All those girls come to my events anyway.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: We just come to my event.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: Because Derek's gonna try making money off of me.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing that.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: He can come hang out at my event, I don't have to spend any money.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: Brilliant.
57:20
SPEAKER_02: Brilliant.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: Well, Bobby, this is great, man.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
57:23
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
57:23
SPEAKER_00: How can people find more Bobby Khan in their lives?
57:24
SPEAKER_02: Real Bobby Khan.
57:25
SPEAKER_02: Real Bobby Khan.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: Or if if I don't win, then you'll see me on the big screen because there's uh a life story about my life being made.
57:32
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we're working on that.
57:33
SPEAKER_02: You got one hell of a story already.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a crazy story.
57:35
SPEAKER_02: You only heard of portion of it.
57:36
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
57:37
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I got just the trailer.
57:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got a portion of it.
57:40
SPEAKER_02: There's a crazier previous case that I had to fight too, and so much other stuff.
57:44
SPEAKER_02: And it involved there's all kinds of shit.
57:46
SPEAKER_00: I love it.
57:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I got that, and I'm gonna be also, you know, doing all kinds of other stuff too.
57:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, I wish you the best of luck, man.
57:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to see, regardless of how it turns out, I'm excited to see the change that you're you you you've made in the game when it comes to.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: I want to say one thing.
57:59
SPEAKER_02: Please win or lose this election, Las Vegas doesn't lose me next week.
58:04
SPEAKER_02: You know, if I lose, doesn't mean I'm actually gonna do more for this town as being an individual between my events that I'm gonna do.
58:11
SPEAKER_02: Because the reason I do these events is I bring business to these casinos.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: When I say I'm gonna be someplace or I'm doing a movie premiere someplace or whatever, I'm bringing in 600 to 1,000 people a night.
58:22
SPEAKER_00: You have a ridiculous, like dedicated following.
58:26
SPEAKER_00: Like people have followers, but you every post that you have, it's engagement after engagement after engagement.
58:31
SPEAKER_00: People commenting, and they're different people comment.
58:34
SPEAKER_00: It's not the same group of people commenting over and over again.
58:36
SPEAKER_02: You know what it is?
58:36
SPEAKER_02: What?
58:37
SPEAKER_02: Because they know that uh they get me.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: Authenticity authenticity.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: There's nobody handling my page.
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SPEAKER_02: It's me.
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SPEAKER_02: I talk to everybody.
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SPEAKER_02: When I do an event with a thousand people, I make sure I shake a thousand hands that night.
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SPEAKER_02: You see, I take pictures with everybody.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't hide from anybody and say, I can't be in a picture with that person because that's a porn star.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Or I can't be in a picture with that person because he's a you know a drug dealer.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't give a shit.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh everybody's uh, you know, I'll take a picture with anybody.
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SPEAKER_02: And so when I so here's what I've done I bring business to casinos, and I'm gonna continue doing that because that's me contributing and to this is this city that needs help.
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SPEAKER_02: So on a Wednesday night when a casino's dead and I show up but a thousand people, guess what?
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SPEAKER_02: They're ringing the register.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it helps them, and it also gives people an opportunity to go out and have a great night out without breaking the bank.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: So well said, Bobby Khan.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm excited for you, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me on here.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course, anytime.
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SPEAKER_00: Catch new episodes each week on heybighead.com.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll see you then.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.