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Serial Killer Documentary - The National Forest Serial Killer： Gary Hilton · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: She said no, let me go, put her hands up.
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  Speaker 1: I kept striking her and she lost consciousness, and kept
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: striking her to ensure she was dead.
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  Speaker 2: He cut off their hands, He cut off both their heads.
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  Speaker 2: It was a wicked, wicked person.
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  Speaker 3: It was too much to even comprehend how he could
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  Speaker 3: be that cruel, that evil and commit the horrific acts
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  Speaker 3: that he did.
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  Speaker 4: It makes me sick to my stoach.
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  Speaker 5: It's a very densely forested area, very difficult area to
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  Speaker 5: search for things like flood or hair or fibers.
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  Speaker 6: You can't catch me. I am here in this vastness
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  Speaker 6: of the United States, and it is up to you
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  Speaker 6: to try to find me or stop me, because I'm
• 1:02
  Speaker 6: going to keep doing this horrific act.
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  Speaker 7: Is that difficult to do? To take somebody's head off?
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  Speaker 1: All you gotta do is keep sewing.
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  Speaker 7: There was nothing I've ever experienced before.
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  Speaker 8: What you take and kill him?
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  Speaker 4: You ever killed him or you get caught.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, man, he's just pure evil. You can see it
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  Speaker 7: in his eyes.
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  Speaker 9: The Appalachian Trail is a collection of national parks covering
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  Speaker 9: two thousand miles across fourteen eastern US states. Its vast,
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  Speaker 9: untamed landscape is a favorite among hikers and hunters. The
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  Speaker 9: southern tip of this wilderness is in North Georgia, a.
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  Speaker 10: Severe mountainous area. National forest land is abundant in North Georgia.
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  Speaker 5: We have lots of small towns in Georgia, usually twenty
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  Speaker 5: thirty miles apart, but in between those cities are just remote,
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  Speaker 5: rugged mountains.
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  Speaker 11: You can walk for literally days and not come across
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  Speaker 11: a road. If someone disposes of a body in a
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  Speaker 11: national forest, you'll never find them.
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  Speaker 9: Fulton County, Georgia is where divorcee Gary Hilton spends his
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  Speaker 9: time away from work.
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  Speaker 3: My name is John Tabor, a telemarketing operation and I
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  Speaker 3: first met Gary Hilton when he replied to a help
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  Speaker 3: wanted add or telemarketers but he was very fond of
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  Speaker 3: the outdoors and enjoyed taking his dog out into the
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  Speaker 3: national forests where they would camp for maybe a week
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  Speaker 3: at a time. Had proved himself to be a reliable
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  Speaker 3: and valuable employee. He was smart individual. He was great
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  Speaker 3: with numbers. He could do rather complex mathematics in his
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  Speaker 3: head and spit numbers out that most people couldn't do.
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  Speaker 3: It was a fine working arrangement that he did his
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  Speaker 3: job and that was pretty much it. He never got
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: along that well with other people and just seemed to
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  Speaker 3: prefer the company of his dog rather than other humans.
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  Speaker 3: He worked in that office uneventually for a decade. Construction
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: companies in general mind included more hit Heart, where there
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: was a dramatic drop in business. So I shut the
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  Speaker 3: phone room down, and he was very concerned about that.
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  Speaker 3: He suggested that he do his own marketing on my behalf,
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  Speaker 3: and then I could just pay him commissions based on
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  Speaker 3: his production. So Gary and I came to an agreement
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  Speaker 3: where he would actually live in the office so we
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  Speaker 3: could keep an eye on things, since I really didn't
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  Speaker 3: have any need to go to that location, so it
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  Speaker 3: seemed like a win win situation. He wasn't being very
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  Speaker 3: productive based on his long history, I would advance him
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  Speaker 3: money for his living expenses and whatnot, with the understanding
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  Speaker 3: that eventually we would catch up.
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  Speaker 4: I got frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: At some point it just became obvious that he had
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  Speaker 3: lost interest in actually working. At some point you had
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  Speaker 3: to put your foot down. And then suddenly, within a
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  Speaker 3: matter of a few weeks, he became extremely distant and belligerent,
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  Speaker 3: and it got to the point where he demanded money.
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  Speaker 3: It was shocking to me that he would actually do
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  Speaker 3: such a thing and take that position. I realized at
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  Speaker 3: that point, this is a real problem. The situation just
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  Speaker 3: spiraled downward rapidly. It didn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 9: At this point. Despite their long working relationship, John knows
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  Speaker 9: very little about Hilton's past. He had a traumatic start
• 5:48
  Speaker 9: to life. As a child, his parents moved around a lot,
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  Speaker 9: and at age thirteen, he shot his stepfather.
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  Speaker 12: When we look at a thirteen year old child who
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  Speaker 12: deliberately picks a rifle and shoots his stepfather out of frustration,
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  Speaker 12: out of rage or whatever, that is a bright red
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  Speaker 12: warning sign that this is somebody who, when they are
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  Speaker 12: angry enough, is willing to do something like that.
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  Speaker 9: His early childhood featured another traumatic incident. At age nine,
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  Speaker 9: he suffered a brain injury.
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  Speaker 11: He had been hit in the frontal lobe with a
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  Speaker 11: murphy bed had fallen on him when he was a
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  Speaker 11: young kid.
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  Speaker 13: It is a very serious injury.
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  Speaker 12: He has over two hundred stitches, and several people in
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  Speaker 12: the hospital report that he becomes very hyperactive while he's
• 6:41
  Speaker 12: in the hospital. They have difficulty kind of controlling him.
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  Speaker 12: And when we look at serial killers, It's interesting that
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  Speaker 12: about a quarter of them have a history of head
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  Speaker 12: trauma at some point in their life. We've can damage
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  Speaker 12: their funnel lobe. It can lead to problems with judgment,
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  Speaker 12: decision making, and all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 9: At age eighteen, Gary enlisted in the US Army as
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  Speaker 9: a paratrooper, but after three years he had a schizophrenic
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  Speaker 9: episode and was discharged.
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  Speaker 12: He drifts around during the seventies. During the nineteen eighties,
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  Speaker 12: he has three failed marriages.
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  Speaker 13: He kind of goes from job to job.
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  Speaker 12: He is somebody who was really living on the fringes
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  Speaker 12: of society.
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  Speaker 6: Here's someone that's saying, my look is going to present that,
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  Speaker 6: my appearance, my whole genre of who I am is
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  Speaker 6: going to say, stay away from me. I'm different from you.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to be a part of this society.
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  Speaker 3: I had to satisfy my own curiosity as to what
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  Speaker 3: was going on with this man, so I decided to
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  Speaker 3: stop by the office unannounced. So I pulled him too
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  Speaker 3: the parking lot. There were no lights on in the office.
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: Parking area was dark. It was just dark everywhere. The
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  Speaker 3: back doors wide open, which was also unusual. The whole
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  Speaker 3: situation was just creepy. I just had this feeling of doom.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing seemed right, everything seemed out of order. I remember
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  Speaker 3: reaching to turn the light switches on, but none of
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: the lights would come on. And then suddenly he pops
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  Speaker 3: out of a doorway. So I immediately noticed that he
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: was much more disheveled than normal. And at that point
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  Speaker 3: he smiled at me, and I noticed that several of
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  Speaker 3: his teeth were missing, and I was pretty shocked by that.
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  Speaker 4: I just said, what happened to you? He goes, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my teeth goes. You know. He said, I pulled them
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  Speaker 4: out with this pair of pliers. Okay, he said, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He said he did it so it would frighten people
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  Speaker 3: when they looked at him.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I knew at that point I needed to get the
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  Speaker 3: hell out of there as I could. I just felt
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: like something bad could happen at any moment.
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  Speaker 12: Around this period of time, we see this kind of
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  Speaker 12: erratic aggression uppear, and he seems to be getting some
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  Speaker 12: enjoyment out of that.
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  Speaker 13: Several people reported.
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  Speaker 12: Being afraid of him at these national parks. He is
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  Speaker 12: enjoying being menacing, and I think what that is reflecting
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  Speaker 12: is this increased agitation he's experiencing this increased anger and
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  Speaker 12: this increased violence risk he is ramping up. The more
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  Speaker 12: he does these kind of things, the more he changes
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  Speaker 12: his appearance, the more he talks about liking the fact
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  Speaker 12: that he's scaring people. I mean, those are things that
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  Speaker 12: really do tell us. They're like little red flags on
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  Speaker 12: this path to violence.
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  Speaker 9: With the goodwill of John Tabor. Now wearing thin, Gary
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  Speaker 9: Hilton makes a stark demand for three thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: And I kind of laughed when he made the demand.
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  Speaker 3: It was only after he followed up with that and said, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, John, You've got a great life, beautiful wife,
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  Speaker 3: this beautiful young son. It would be such a shame
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  Speaker 3: for you to lose all that. I just knew that
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  Speaker 3: something bad was going to happen. It probably would be
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  Speaker 3: sooner than later.
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  Speaker 9: Gary Hilton has threatened to harm the family of his
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  Speaker 9: former boss John Tabor unless he hands over three thousand dollars. Terrified,
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  Speaker 9: John has moved his family away.
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  Speaker 3: But that was my first move. Get them out of
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  Speaker 3: the house someplace where he had no idea where they were.
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  Speaker 3: I agreed to write this check for him. I told
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  Speaker 3: him I would put her by the front door of
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  Speaker 3: my house and he would kind of get it. Hilton
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  Speaker 3: came out of the woods out of nowhere, exactly the
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  Speaker 3: same time as I was walking down the driveway, so
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  Speaker 3: we literally were now facing each other, and all I
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  Speaker 3: could remember thinking at that point was Wow, I wish
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  Speaker 3: I had on a bulletproof vest and.
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  Speaker 4: A firearm right now. I felt incredibly vulnerable.
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  Speaker 3: I knew at that moment I needed to get inside
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  Speaker 3: that front door of my house as quickly as possible,
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  Speaker 3: because I had a glock nine millimeter positioned close to
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  Speaker 3: the front door. I dropped my belongings on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: got my firearm, chambered a round, and came right back
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  Speaker 3: out the front door with the gun pointing in the
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  Speaker 3: direction he was in. He was now maybe one hundred
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  Speaker 3: feet away, and he was fleeing back.
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  Speaker 4: Off into the to the woods. I believe that one
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  Speaker 4: of us was going to end up dead.
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  Speaker 9: After this terrifying encounter, Gary Hilton stops living at John's
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  Speaker 9: office and appears to vanish. Months later, police encounter him
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  Speaker 9: on private land on the Appalachian Trail.
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  Speaker 4: What's you going out here?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to place the camp of the moment
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  Speaker 1: with leaving as a matter of fact, I'm getting my
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  Speaker 1: map together.
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  Speaker 12: His emotions kind of vastly all over the place.
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  Speaker 14: I camped out here twenty years ago, I'm sure you.
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  Speaker 12: And in fact, he ends up at one point saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 12: I love you.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, I love you, little Hilton.
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  Speaker 12: Take care we say, which again shows how this person
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  Speaker 12: is is kind of losing control. I think not only
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  Speaker 12: of their thought processes, but their emotions.
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  Speaker 1: If there's deer hunters around that I can be wearing
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  Speaker 1: a purple chuirt that read back back.
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  Speaker 12: He seems to have no awareness of how he's coming
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  Speaker 12: across to the other person, and that also is a
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  Speaker 12: hallmark of deterioration when somebody loses the ability to self
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  Speaker 12: reflect and realize and change their behavior when they're saying
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  Speaker 12: things that are inappropriate or don't make sense.
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  Speaker 14: No, they're crazy, man, I'm telling you that's crazy.
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  Speaker 6: The forest, as they are, are remote locations throughout the
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  Speaker 6: United States, but they bring leisure to most people, but
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  Speaker 6: sadly can be an opportunity for those looking for horrific activities,
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  Speaker 6: criminal activities to take place.
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  Speaker 10: John and Irene Bryant were in their late seventies early eighties.
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  Speaker 10: They were experienced hikers In fact, John Bryant was what
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  Speaker 10: is called a thru hiker of the Appalachian Trail, that
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  Speaker 10: means ease travel the complete distance of the trail from
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  Speaker 10: Georgia to Maine. The Episco National Forest is extremely remote,
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  Speaker 10: consists of several thousand acres of forestland. They went into
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  Speaker 10: the forest and parked their car, and very soon they
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  Speaker 10: were confronted by Gary Hilton. Gary Hilton immediately killed Irene.
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  Speaker 10: Her cause of death was blood force trauma to the head.
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  Speaker 11: John Bryant was taken held captive in the back of
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  Speaker 11: Hilton's van. He chained him around the neck and pad
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  Speaker 11: locked the chain and.
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  Speaker 12: Takes him to another park and then he kills him,
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  Speaker 12: uses his bank card and gets three hundred dollars and
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  Speaker 12: that is what he gets in exchange for just a
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  Speaker 12: beautiful couple's life.
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  Speaker 10: When the authorities began to search for John and Irene,
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  Speaker 10: they found the body of Irene, but no signs of
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  Speaker 10: John other than the atm activity and it was later
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  Speaker 10: on that John's body was found in the nota Hala
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  Speaker 10: National Forest.
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  Speaker 11: It was determined that he was murdered with a handgun,
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  Speaker 11: shot in the head and left at a different location
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  Speaker 11: within the National Forest.
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  Speaker 6: A natural reaction is wow, this was a horrific thing
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  Speaker 6: that I did. But then I think there's a reality
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  Speaker 6: that sets in. But I'm getting away with it. And
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: if that urged holes at me to do it again,
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  Speaker 6: you certainly can see the logic to say I can
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  Speaker 6: ease my attention by doing it again, which allows for
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: what we now see as serial killers taking place.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: My name is Gloria Tucker. I live in Tallahsee, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: My cousin who was in Sheryl Dunlap, which I refer
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: to her as Sherry all the time. Oh, I loved
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: dr immensely. I loved Shery to pieces. She was such
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a kind person.
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  Speaker 10: She went for a day hike in the Apalachicola National
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  Speaker 10: Fora in an area called Leon Sinks. It's very much
• 16:07
  Speaker 10: like any other National forest. There's hiking trails, creeks, and
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  Speaker 10: you know, just a very nice area to spend time.
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  Speaker 2: It was a calm place, she thought, a nice place,
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful place, and she just kind of contemplated and
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: read a little book. And then and then she was kidnapped.
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  Speaker 2: He tied her to a tree at first, and then
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  Speaker 2: he drove to tyllahassee to the bank. He had taped
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  Speaker 2: his face up. I think it was two or three
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: times he got money out of her account. He kept
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: her there alive for two or three days. He made
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  Speaker 2: her march over to a tree to tie herself up,
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  Speaker 2: and as she was going he pulled a gun and
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  Speaker 2: shot her in the head.
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  Speaker 6: I think money can be a factor involved, but control
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  Speaker 6: is another. Taking someone's life is the ultimate control over someone.
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  Speaker 12: It tells us a lot about Gary Hilton in terms
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  Speaker 12: of how he views his victims essentially as objects that
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: he's got to now figure out how to disguise and
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  Speaker 12: get rid of.
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  Speaker 13: He isn't necessarily seeing this.
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  Speaker 12: Person as a person at this point, so it doesn't
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  Speaker 12: mean he's getting satisfaction, but it does mean that this
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  Speaker 12: is somebody who we're thinking, where are the limits in
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  Speaker 12: terms of what this person would do.
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  Speaker 10: Some hunters in the forest saw some buzzards circling in
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  Speaker 10: the area and went over and found the remains of Sheryl.
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  Speaker 10: Her head had been removed as well as her hands,
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  Speaker 10: but they were able to identify her through some.
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  Speaker 9: De With four hundred miles between murders, police in Florida
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  Speaker 9: and police in North Carolina are unaware they're dealing with
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  Speaker 9: the serial killer. But Hilton's next victim would fight back.
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  Speaker 4: In our world, she's the hero in this case.
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  Speaker 13: She kept fighting.
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  Speaker 7: She almost beat him, She almost got the best of it.
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  Speaker 10: Meredith Emerson was the all American girl, very bright, very brave,
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  Speaker 10: had recently graduated from the University of Georgia. She lived
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: at the time in the northern suburb of Atlanta. She
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  Speaker 10: was a very experienced hiker. She had hiked those mountains
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  Speaker 10: out in Colorado, so you know, these mountains out here
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: really can't compare to those. A Blood Mountain is actually
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  Speaker 10: the highest peak in Georgia that the Apalachian Trail crosses.
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  Speaker 5: There is a lot of hikers come to this area.
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  Speaker 5: Although there's not a heavy populated area here, it's certainly
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: a heavy.
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  Speaker 13: Trafficked area during the daytime.
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  Speaker 5: So Gary Hilton was very bold to choose this spot.
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  Speaker 6: All she's doing is a New Year's day taking a
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: hike with her dog.
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  Speaker 5: Gary sat up in the woods and surveyed the parking
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  Speaker 5: lot and made the decision.
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  Speaker 4: Of who he was gonna abduct.
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  Speaker 6: What you're looking at is upping the ante, going towards
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: someone who is more fit, more young, but almost meeting
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  Speaker 6: his match.
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  Speaker 11: Hilton basically saw her on the trail. She had a dog,
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  Speaker 11: He had a dog. He knew that he could strike
• 19:42
  Speaker 11: up a conversation about the dogs. Eventually, she said okay,
• 19:47
  Speaker 11: I'll talk to you later and just basically left him.
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  Speaker 11: She pretty much ran up the trail, and she probably
• 19:53
  Speaker 11: sensed that there's something wasn't good about it and left
• 19:58
  Speaker 11: him behind. So he concealed himself along the trail. Some
• 20:04
  Speaker 11: people had actually seen him hiding, crouching behind the rocks.
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: That combination of isolation, him being out the woods, seeing
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: himself as a survivalist, you really start getting a sense
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: of this kind of dehumanization and complete lack of any
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: ability to care about anybody else.
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  Speaker 5: This is the area where Meredith Emerson initially hiked up
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: this to the trail. Gary laid in wait in this
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  Speaker 5: area right here, or Meredith.
• 20:35
  Speaker 10: Gary Hilton waited on Meredith. As she was coming back
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  Speaker 10: down the trail, he attacked her.
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  Speaker 12: She turns around and she basically goes after him. She
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: grabs his bayonet, which just stuns him, and she absolutely
• 20:52
  Speaker 12: puts up the fight of her life.
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  Speaker 6: Boy does she put up a battle.
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  Speaker 15: I had to hand light her and that's where I
• 21:02
  Speaker 15: got this hand. I probably had multiple fractures in my
• 21:05
  Speaker 15: right handown. Okay, I had to hand flight her, and
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  Speaker 15: I still didn't get control over. She would saying or
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: pretend that I was in control, and then.
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  Speaker 8: Start fighting it.
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  Speaker 10: Meredith was trained in martial arts. She almost beat him up,
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  Speaker 10: and they rolled off the trail down into the woods
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  Speaker 10: away from the trail.
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  Speaker 11: The ground was so disturbed in that area you could
• 21:28
  Speaker 11: tell it was a very violent fight that had taken
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: place right there. He finally got control over by convincing
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  Speaker 11: her he had a gun.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So I zip tied her too a tree, and I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: knew that I had to.
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  Speaker 4: Go and reclean the client.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: See, okay, I was aware that I dropped all that
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: stuff and her stuff.
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: When Meredith Emerson doesn't return from walking her dog, her
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: boyfriend reports her missing.
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  Speaker 11: We blast out a picture of Maryordith and her dog.
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  Speaker 11: The very first thing I did, I checked her phone
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: records and her bank records. The bank had reported to
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: us that her bank account had not been attempted to
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: be used. I feel confident that in Meredith's mind, she
• 22:24
  Speaker 11: was doing that in hopes that we would be able
• 22:29
  Speaker 11: to track her and be able to find her sooner.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: The idea of not giving the full pen number allows
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: for more opportunities to get away from this situation.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: Let me ask you one quick question.
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: Did she ever give you her pen number while you're
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: asking for it on the mountain?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, after I got control over her around the side.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: She gave me a pen number.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Okay, she was incorrect, O pay.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: She never gave me a correct.
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: With police unaware that Meredith's card is being used, Hilton's
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: abuse escalates, and.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I told her, honey, I told you just going to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: let you go. You've run me all over North cre
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: difference maybe but one hundred and fifty miles on my van.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: But still you've lied to me. You've run me around,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: hit me.
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: His explanation for why he raped Meredith is because he
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: says that she owed him that. Because she gave him
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: the run around about the pen number.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: She showed conniving instinct. She was able to fight off
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: him and be a little smarter than him. Sadly, the
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: rape part of it was an added penalty for how
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: much she showed to fight off this horrible act.
• 23:49
  Speaker 12: And so I think that's very interesting to think about that.
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: What does that mean? The fact that you know, in
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: his head, this is how he's justifying the rape. So
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: I don't think that sex was a primary motive for him,
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: but I definitely think, you know, he definitely has some
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: issues in those respects.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: We'd set up a command post at the Vogel State Park,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: which is right there at the base of the mountain.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: When we discovered her water bottles and her backpack and
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: some of her effects at the trail, we felt like
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: something bad had happened. There was also a police baton
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: found in the area that was concerning for us. So
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of what we were doing was making phone
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: calls identify anyone who may have seen anything.
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: There were so many people that had contacted the tip
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: line and said there's a strange guy that was on
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: the trail that day. They all described him almost identical,
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: you know, older gentleman, very fit, wearing high end hiking gear,
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: but he has duct tape on his shoes, He's got
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: a dog with him, and they saw him around a
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: white van.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: Police investigating the John and Irene Bryant murders in North
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: Carolina and the separate force investigating the Sheryl Dunlop murderer
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: in Florida soon contacted Georgia Bureau of Investigation, who are
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: running the Meredith Emerson case.
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: When we learned of those cases, then we began to
• 25:21
  Speaker 10: talk to both jurisdictions about the similarities and there were several.
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: The US Marshall Service offered their assistance. We basically gave
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: them all of the information for Meredith, all the information
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: for Garry Hilton, and they ran them through their system
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: and they basically came back and said, you know where
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: card was tried. Somebody attempted to use your card at
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: this location, this location, in this location on the first
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: and the second.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: And I said, no, the bank's not telling me that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: The bank should have known that her pen her car
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: was used, yet no money was taken out.
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: The photographs of the person walking up to the ATM
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: was very, very similar, and then when we got our
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: photographs from our ATMs, there was no doubt that it
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: was the same person. There was mention of a van
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: in Florida where Gary Hilton was actually confronted with a
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: park ranger. We had a van in our case. So
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: everything began to line up fairly quickly. As soon as
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: we found out of both of those jurisdictions.
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: I think he had been pretty self assured up until now.
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: I think he really did in his mind convinced himself
• 26:45
  Speaker 12: that he was going to continue along the path. Nothing bad,
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: you know, nothing bad was going to happen. And I
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: think this does start the beginning of the end for
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: Gary Hilton.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: Gary Hilton has been holding Meredith hostage for two days,
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: sixty miles south of Blood Mountain. Hilton's former boss, John Tabor,
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: hasn't heard from him in over seven months.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I still remained armed with my pistol on my person
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: and my assault rifle in my vehicle. I would still
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: have someone sweep the woods, if you will, do a
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: quick walkthrough and make sure he wasn't there before I
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: drove home at night. I never felt completely comfortable, so
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that's why I remained armed. Twenty four to seven. My
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: home gym is actually where I was when I first
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: heard about it. I was working out and caught the
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: top of the news where they broke to cover this
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: case of the missing girl I in North Georgia. They
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: said that there was evidence of a struggle in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: parking lot where they found I'm married to this vehicle.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: But what really got my attention was they said they
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: found an expandable police baton.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: That's what really made me stop in my tracks.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: And now I'm just staring at the television, going, oh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: wait a minute, did I just hear expandable police baton?
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Because that's something that I knew the Hilton had with
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: him all the time. So when I heard that, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: just remember just going numb, thinking Wow, I knew it
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: was something I had to do. So I called and
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I ended up getting I guess it was a Union
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: County Sheriff's department on the phone.
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: And says, I know who you're talking about. His name's
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: Gary Michael Hilton. I can give you the number, the
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: tag number to the van because I bought it for him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: People had heard him yelling at the dog and said
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: they thought he was saying Danny, and he actually said no,
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: his dog's name Dandy. So we knew we were probably
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: talking about the right guy. So we pulled a driver's
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: license photo of him and put it out onto the
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: news media, so it carries nationwide again.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Maybe six hours after I made that phone call, I
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: was trying to wrap up some business before heading to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: cayl ride Over vacation and this is the part that
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: still stuns me today. My phone rang, answered the phone
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: like normal, and it was him. For seven months of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: absolutely no communication, there he was on the phone with me,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, like a ghost. If there was anything
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I was afraid of, it was not being able to
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: fight back.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: That was my fear. Fight to the death. Bring it on.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: I'm ready.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: Gary Hilton has been holding Meredith Emerson hostage since New
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: Year's Day. She's refusing to give him her bank pen number,
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: and he's desperate for money, so he's traveling to his
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: former boss's house where he hopes to pick up a check,
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: and calls him on the way. The last time the
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: pair spoke, Gary Hilton threatened John's family.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just sitting in my car in a state of disbelief.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: He immediately apologized for what had happened and told me
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that he wanted to come back to work.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: And I really feared in trying to start work again
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: form because I fell that Robert.
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: I'm getting because I'd gotten any money out her.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: But I played along.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I acted as though I didn't know anything about anything,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and he said he needed some money to get started,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: you know, to get back to work, and whatnot, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, that's no problem. How much you need?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: We discussed an amount seven hundred eight hundred dollars. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: forgot what it was, but I said, yeah, I'll be
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: more than happy to give you the check. I said, well,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: where are you because I was ready to get this
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: over with one wa or the other. But then he explained.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: He just said that that's not possible. He could not
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: meet me then under any circumstances. But within the next
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: couple of days he would come get the check from
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: the office and that was it.
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: Once we learned that there was a possibility that Hilton
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: would go to his former employer's office to pick up
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: the check, we got with the local jurisdiction and they
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: deployed their swat team and they were prepared to grab
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: him if you showed up, and we were hoping that
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: he would, because if you showed up, most likely that
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: Merridith with him. But he didn't show up.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: What'd you tell when I called him? That girl was
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: a lie, whichieved in my van.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Once you'd take him someone, you either killed him or
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you get If you release them, you're gonna get caught.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I gave her a book to read and everything else there,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and I walked up and made as if to unsecure
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the chain, struck her with the bar. It was a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: jackhandled a just a straight jack handled the solid iron
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: iron bar. Struck her with that. She said, no, let
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: me go, put her hands up. I kept striking her shoe.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You'll see some defensive wounds to her hand. She lost
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: consciousness and I kept striking her till ensure she was dead.
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: After finding out everything that she did, you know how
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: close we came to catching him on numerous occasions and
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: she was still alive to this day.
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: Breaks my heart.
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: Now, I was very familiar with that area called Dawson
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: Forest Wildlife Management Area. He had taken her head off
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: and moved it to another location about a mile away
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: from her body.
• 33:22
  Speaker 9: At this point, Gary Hilton decides to release Meredith Emerson's
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: dog Ella.
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: He seemed to have no trouble whatsoever murdering Meredith, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: he cannot murder Ella. And I think that's very, very significant.
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: It just speaks to the lack of attachment that Gary
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: Hilton seems to have with anybody.
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: We got a telephone call to the tip line from
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: a lady about sixty miles south of Blood Mountain, who said,
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: I think I just saw Merdeth Emerson's dog walk into
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: a grocery store.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: Video valance at the grocery store shows it walking around.
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: It almost looked like it was asking for help.
• 34:05
  Speaker 10: We were able to pick up the dog and identify
• 34:08
  Speaker 10: the dog as Ella through an ID chip that she
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: had in her so we knew that Ella was in
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: an area seventy miles south of the abduction site. We
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: had another call to the tip line from a lady
• 34:21
  Speaker 10: who had known Hilton in the past, who told us
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: he just called her asking for money, and she told
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: us she told Hilton, don't you know the world's looking
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: for you? And he hung up. She called immediately and
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: we were able to trace that phone number to a
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: telephone at a gas station just across from the grocery
• 34:43
  Speaker 10: store where Ella.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Had been found.
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: So there was a lot of activity around that gas station.
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: The agents I sent down there found a dumpster in
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: the parking lot, and they decided to look.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: In the dumpster.
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: That's where we found the things that I had hoped
• 35:02
  Speaker 10: that we wouldn't. We found bloody clothing, We found Meredith's
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: driver's license and wallet. We found other clothing, men's clothing
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: with blood on them. This was so much blood that
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: you could wring it out.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: The blood was wet, it was fresh. That was disturbing. Yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: because up to this point, you know, we were all
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: holding out the hope that Meredith's alive. We're going to
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: recapture the bad guy and recover.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: Her based on what we'd found in the dumpster. None
• 35:36
  Speaker 10: of us really thought that someone could survive and lose
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: that much blood.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: He goes to another convenience store at that location or
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: down near that location, and tries to clean more stuff
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: out of his van, basically everything that had blood on it,
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: or he thought had blood on it, or thing that
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: could tie him to Meredith.
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: And it wasn't that long until the citizen called nine
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: one one and said, I think I'm looking at the
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: guy that y'all have been looking for all week with
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: the missing hiker. The person of interest in that missing
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: woman case is at this Chevron gas station on ash
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: Ford Dunwoodie.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: The van is here, the dog is he's the red dog.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: And I saw the man's face and I've been watching
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: the news and I know with him, I know with him.
• 36:29
  Speaker 14: He's throwing stuff in the dumpster.
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: Here and basically stayed on the phone watching him while
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: officers were responding to take him into custody.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Here comes the cops.
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, La, Yes, they got him.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 36:42
  Speaker 15: Two crews ares pulled up on him.
• 36:46
  Speaker 9: They got him.
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: He was not talking, but we knew that there were
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: answers to some of our questions in the van.
• 36:57
  Speaker 9: With Hilton now in custody, police look for evidence that
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: links him to the murders of John and Irene Bryant,
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: Cheryl Dunlap, and Meredith Emerson.
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: We had the Cab County transport him to our headquarters,
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: which is into Cab County. In a conference room in
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: GBI headquarters.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: When I first walked into the conference room, Gary was
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: lying on the floor in a fetal position and kept
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: saying that he had multiple sclerosis and he needed an
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: immediate shot of folic acid and just kind of talking crazy.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Clay Bridges actually laid down on the floor with him
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and talked to him for a few minutes.
• 37:36
  Speaker 16: Cheryl and my name's Clay Bridges. I'm specializing with a GBI.
• 37:39
  Speaker 16: Would you be more comfortable in the chair? I can't okay,
• 37:44
  Speaker 16: you got a urdigo? Is that from the multiple sclerosis?
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Yes, I'm through talking to you. I'm making those statements.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: I don't want to be interrogated anymore. He put me
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: back in the handcuff.
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: He had a fingernail gap into his nose, pretty substantial.
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: It looked to be a defensive wound someone else that
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: had inflicted on a him. His hand was obviously broken,
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: it was swollen. He just stayed quiet.
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: I had learned some things about him. He had one dog.
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: In particular that he really cared for that was named Ranger,
• 38:19
  Speaker 11: and he had actually built a shrine to him where
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: he had buried him at At one point I told
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: him that I was going to go move Ranger and
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: see how he liked it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: He became angry. He became really angry.
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: He he you know, cut his eyes up at me
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: and showed me his broken teeth and said, just put
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: the needle in my arm.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: It was so much in the van.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: So we've we got blood transfer powern that match John Bryant,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: so that was huge. We had blood in the van
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: that matched Meredith Emerson. Cheryl Dunlap's car had a flat
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: tire and there was a bayonet that we recovered and
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Florida forensics were able to match that to the puncture
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: and the tire.
• 39:04
  Speaker 9: Despite the extensive evidence linking Hilton to the four murders,
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: police haven't found Meredith Emerson's body, but with Hilton doe
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: to face the death penalty, they propose a deal.
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: They basically came back and said, he'll tell you if
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: you take the death penalty off the table.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: At that point we knew we had John Bryant in
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: that van.
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: Some boots had Cheryl Dunlap's blood on it, so we knew.
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: We add a couple more bites at Tapple of given
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: him the death penalty and agreed to take the death
• 39:35
  Speaker 11: penalty off the table for Meredith and recover her body.
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: And he started showing us on a map. He said, yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 11: the head will be missing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: When it came time to do the recovery of the body,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: we started at night. We brought out temporary lighting to
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: set up. We worked throughout the night, did the recovery.
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: Then we came back the next morning at sunrise and
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: process the scene over again in the daylight. Well, the
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: body was covered with leaves and limbs and debris. Literally
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: you could be standing a couple of feet away and
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: not know there was a body there. So he had
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: done a very good job of concealing the body. Her
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: head was about a mile from that site, lying near
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: a log and get covered in leaves.
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: I mean, is that difficult to do, to take so
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: Muchy's head off?
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: I've never seen that done.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, all you gotta do is keep sewing, throwing, sewing, sewing, sewing,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and then get through the joint. It's just like you would.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: That's what it's made for in the kitchen.
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: Right to cut up me?
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: Right, okay.
• 40:40
  Speaker 11: I interviewed him about the crime itself, and truthfully, it
• 40:43
  Speaker 11: was the most horrific thing I think I had ever heard,
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: even as a law enforcement officer watching horror movies, any.
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: Any aspect it was.
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: It was undoubtedly one of the most devastating gut punches
• 40:59
  Speaker 11: that I've taken.
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: I think killed a coach for any satisfaction.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: It was distaithful.
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: It was dreadful. Trust me, it was. Of course I
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: was able to do it because in my general rage answer.
• 41:10
  Speaker 11: Siety, you know, she was thinking, well, if I can
• 41:13
  Speaker 11: just keep him at bay, you know, just a little
• 41:15
  Speaker 11: bit longer, they're gonna find me.
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: They're gonna find me. And then to listen to all
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: that in him describe how he took her life.
• 41:22
  Speaker 11: Once he was taken away, it it all flooded in on.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: Me and I just began to cry.
• 41:27
  Speaker 11: It was nothing I've ever experienced before, nothing like anything
• 41:32
  Speaker 11: I've ever been around.
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: At his first trial, Gary Hilton has found guilty for
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: the murder of Meredith Emerson. He's sentenced to thirty years
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: in prison. At a second trial for the murder of
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: Cheryl Dunlap, Hilton has found guilty. He receives the death penalty.
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: At a third trial for the murders of John and
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: i Rene Brilliant, Hilton has found guilty. He receives a
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: sentence of life imprisonment.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's just pure evil. You can see it
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: in his eyes.
• 42:20
  Speaker 11: I have never met anybody that you could literally look
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: in their eyes and see evil but him, and he is.
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: He's truly evil.
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: I think when you look at Gary Hilton, you look
• 42:33
  Speaker 12: at his background. I think a lot of his not
• 42:35
  Speaker 12: fitting in was more a reflection of his personality, his
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: lack of coping skills, and this trauma he experienced as
• 42:44
  Speaker 12: a child. I do think once he crossed the line,
• 42:47
  Speaker 12: once he murders Irene and John, I think there is
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  Speaker 12: no going back, and I think he would have continued
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: to kill until.
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  Speaker 13: He was caught.
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  Speaker 3: It was too much to even comprehend how he could
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  Speaker 3: be that cruel, that evil and commit the horrific acts
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  Speaker 3: that he did. Sickening. It makes me sick today, sixteen
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  Speaker 3: years later, just thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sick to my stomach.