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Dr. Robert G. Silverman · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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Good morning everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today I
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have a very esteemed guest who I have actually never met in person, but
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I've heard so much about him from lots and lots of people that I know.
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And his name is doctor Rob Silverman, and he is in Westchester,
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New York. So those of you on the East Coast probably I have already
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heard about him. If you haven't, he's written a new book called Immune
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Reboot. And you actually wrote a book in twenty sixteen called Inside Out Health
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as well. So this is your second go around, right doctor Rob.
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It is. It's book number two and another Amazon bestsell. I'm really excited
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about it. The congratulations that is just so wonderful, and thank you for
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taking the time today to come on and join us. We have so much
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to talk about, and I think you know enough about Angels and Timeless that
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we look for our viewers to have answers from people like you who have excelled
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profession and who have tried a lot of things, probably some that haven't worked
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and some that have worked miraculously, and so we want to hear today.
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And part of the strategy is to get to the root of things, just
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like a good functional medicine doctor does. So let's start with a little bit
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about you. First. Tell us how you have gotten here, What was
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the journey that you've taken to become just a widely acclaimed spokesperson for functional medicine.
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And of course I know you started in chiropractic, So tell us more
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quickly if you can, about your journey to where you are today. Well,
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without question, but thank you so much for having me only appreciate it.
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It's truly an honor. My journey is interesting. It's very similar to
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many people who go into chiropractic slash functional medicine. It's something that's very personal.
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So I suffered from what they call congenital or of callus. So I
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was born with the shortening of an SCM muscle. So my head unfortunately gets
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laterally deviated to one side and it gets opposite side contra laterally rotated. So
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it was a little difficult because it's very unique and most people don't see it.
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I grew up in an area of New York, in a borough called
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the Bronx. That's tough for lack of a better term, so to put
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it in a nutshell, there were a lot of scrapes over comments and names
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being called, so I always wanted to address it and then wanted to help
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other people like me not go through the same commentary. At eighteen years old,
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and I went to a fabulous medical doctor and he offered me three options.
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Option number one was to do nothing that wasn't going to happen. Option
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number or two he said he could do surgery and he would provide me with
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a scar. That was the only thing that he would guarantee. Option number
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three he suggested to go to a chiropractor, and I did. And I
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have to tell you, after going to the chiropractor, my life's trajectory,
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my life's goal, my life's mission was changed. It was the star spangled
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bounder. Things just popped off, and I knew at that point I wanted
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to help people the way this gentleman helped me. So I went through all
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the prerequisites even though I already it was enrolled in a business school, and
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I ended up going to chiropractic school. Through my quick journey of chiropractic school,
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I always wanted to fix the body from the inside out, and that's
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when that nutrition, that's where that functional medicine matrix really came to roost.
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It was very new, it was in an infantile stage. But wanted to
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know how to fix the body from the inside out. So I mixed what
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we call chiropractic mechanical in my left hand with functional medicine in my right hand
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to make what we call a health handshake. The reason writing the Immune Reboot
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an immunity coming to the forefront was clearly COVID and I live in an area
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that said Westchester County. Westchester was hit early, was hit hard six blocks
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from where I live, where I'm talking from today right now, everybody was
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getting sick and there was nobody to go to. There was no guru.
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So I had to take it upon myself my oath to help people and do
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no harm, but to help people to start learning all about immunity. And
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now I've had an immunity into my armamentarium and really realized that immunity maybe the
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backbone to everybody's overall health and also in addition to people's aging. You know,
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we're talking about longevity so much now, but there is no longevity without
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a strong immune system. Oh, I love that story, Doctor Robin.
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You know, sometimes when we look in our lives, we realized that from
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the verity come to opportunity. And actually that's the Chinese, you know,
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their philosophy, that out of adversity come to opportunity. And that's what you
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obviously did was something that was personal and caused you a lot of introspection and
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obviously some proactive proactivity. And good for you that you searched for answers,
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because that's what a lot of people would just give up and you didn't do
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a fighter and tenacious about finding those answers, and that's what I'm sure you're
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trying to imbew and your patients as well. So who inspired you the most?
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Was it that medical doctor or was there someone else along the way?
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Well, without question, the medical doctor was an inspiration in that he was
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eclectic, i mean forty years ago saying things that he said. And the
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one thing that he embedded in my mind was the patient came first. And
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everybody, when you go to the doctor, make sure and I'm sure all
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the doctors would go to that the patient comes first. But you know,
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I've had a few mentors along the way, a few in the chiropractic and
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the medical fields who have really set a standard, like you said, energy,
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enthusiasm to help other people, craving for knowledge. A good friend of
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mine who came from humble beginnings like I did, who got himself to Oxford
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is without question an emulous for me also, so I look to people who
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achieve and realize that we I have the greatest job in the world in that
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I'm able to help people every day and that's my goal, and that enables
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me to get up in the morning and stay up late at night. And
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what would you say, or who would you say, has been your greatest
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achievement in terms of a patient and recovery. You know, there's so many
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stories and the probably I'm always going to say the one tomorrow is going to
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be my better day. But I can remember one real clearly. Just yesterday,
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somebody came in and unfortunately for her, she said, paint in her
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abdomen for twenty years through ibs and things like that, and just able to
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make some changes, tell her to stop eating the things that she was eating,
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actually apply a lather therapy to her, and her giving a call at
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night and saying, you know, we already She feels as though her life
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has changed because once she feels better, but she feels some pottygo with the
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doctor. So for me, that was just one of a string. It's
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you know, I'd like to say it's every day. It goes from the
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carpal tunnel to the weight loss to the immune health. So there isn't the
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one. It's for me, it's an everyday thing because it's just exciting to
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work and help people daily. Do you have a particular style a patient,
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let's say a bedside mander type. Do you have a style that you describe
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what you would describe as how you are able to have a patient by even
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you and get compliance to change habits. Because the older people get, the
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harder it is for them to change their way. So that's a huge challenge
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for a medical practitioner like yourself. How do you how do you explain that?
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How are you successful at doing that? I hear you. I mean,
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as I age, you know, sometimes we get a little stuck in
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our ways. I concur with you. So what I tell everybody is I'm
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transparent, I'm to the point, but this is a spot where you can
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trust somebody. I think the biggest problem that people have I think our population
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doesn't know with all the noise out there is who and what do you trust?
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It's hard see if you want to look at a particular topic, you'd
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have three TV programs in eighteen different blogs. Everybody would say different. I
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kind of tell somebody this is a spot where you can trust a person.
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I'm going to give it to you in an honest and appropriate, in a
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professional manner. And are you concierge approach. You don't have to worry about
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fifteen minutes in a medicare claim. Yeah, when we're concierrage without question.
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Our goal is to help the patient. It's not to be locked in in
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time. We're very outcome and we don't look at the clock. We do
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would you say is inspiring you the most right now in your practice? You
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know the need? I mean, seventy five percent of Americans overweight or obese.
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Everybody's suffering from failing health. Just today, there is another drug being
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discussed that helps with type two diabetes that they're purporting for weight loss that actually
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has really heinous outcomes. The moment you stop it, you gain all the
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weight back and you lose forty percent of your muscle mass. So if you're
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worried about longevity or anti aging, the loss of muscle mass is the first
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side of aging. And when you look at the amount of money it is
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I mean that is not the type of direction. So what spurs me
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on every day is the ability to talk about lifestyle changes with everybody because that's
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where we should be eating, thinking, drinking better. Yeah you're yeah,
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I was looking at your well obviously, I told you I read your book
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and I read it covered your cover and I was I told you how I
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felt about it. One, I can tell everybody out there that this new
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book, Immune Reboot, which is the only one I've read, I didn't
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read your first book. I didn't know you, so I probably should go
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back and do that. But I can tell everyone of my viewers that this
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is a book you must read. Doctor Silivan has a knack or has a
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talent for taking the complicated and what could be very medical. I mean there's
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a lot of terminology and so just a lot of things that we the lay
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people, may not always understand. However, he has a knack and it's
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a gift earlier doctor Silverman, to be able to explain things in a way
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that is more understandable, still complicated, because let's face it, the immune
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system and the body as a whole as a miracle and you take it and
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you you know, dissect it in a way that makes it so that we
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understand what we're doing and why we're doing it. And so I just want
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to congratulate you for being able to That's that real. Truly is a gift
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because a lot of doctors talking doctor speak and they lose their patients because the
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patients don't understand. But you want to make the patient understand why, what,
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how? When? Where? Right? What is the purpose of being
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here? Why are we going to make these changes? So, what would
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you say is the greatest challenge today after this pandemic to our health, to
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our overall health? Great question? It would really pear to be long call
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it or post COVID. Long COVID, unfortunately, has affected so many people
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in America worldwide. Americans seem to be more susceptible because we had so many
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preconditions. Again, we're heavy, our blood sugars too high. But a
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thing that we don't look at is not only the health in the production aspect
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of long COVID, but the financial strain. Long COVID has cost three point
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seven trillion dollars to the US healthcare services and growing, which is equivalent to
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the two thousand and seven in two thousand and nine recession. So when you
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speak to that, you realize not only do we have an increasing healthcare cost,
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we also have a decrease in production. And the problem is when you
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go on the TV, thank god for podcasts like this, When you go
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on to TV, everybody's talking about the pill of the drug or the one
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button. And it's been three years since we've really accepted covid as real,
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and in three years, I still don't hear anybody talk about getting into shape,
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vitamin D levels, what's your blood sugar? So you know, when
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patients come in, I ask them what their vitamin D level is, what's
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their blood sugar, what's their body fat? What's the humangob with a ONEC?
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And they don't even know. So the biggest challenge is to really get
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patients to understand that LifeStyle's key and health is without question wealth. Yeah,
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and your food is your medicine. So we can jump to the nutrition part
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in a moment, because I know that's been a big, a big factor
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in your practice and how you've approached your own personal life. And then of
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course buy us most an example as a as a great mentor teaching your patients.
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So yeah, it would seem to me as I you know, I
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look back in the last three years, and you know, we're old enough
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now that we have perspective and we see, you know, there have been
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other challenges in our lives. I have never in my life seen a challenge
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that has been this damaging and to our country. I mean, just I
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don't want to get into political politicization here, but I mean, just I'll
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say the nasty words the vaccine, you know, the just that divisiveness amongst
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friends, amongst families. You know, I've never seen that. I mean
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I took all the shots when I was a kid, never questioned I never
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questioned it. But why now, you know, should we be at this
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point in our lives having to debate something that has just divided us as a
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country. So that's just a little, you know, side note. But
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let's talk a little bit about how we can basically heal what has been devastating
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to our country. So let's talk about the protocol. So in your book,
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you go through a description of the immune system, when I think that
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was your first chapter, and there's a lot of words in there, know,
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the neutrophils, the basiphils, the macrophase, the cytokine storm all of
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that. These are all very important for us to understands, as you know,
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underscoring. But let's talk about action. So if you were giving somebody
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an action plan and you were trying to do it in the simplest way so
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that you don't lose the patient who isn't having an easy time, what is
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the way that you go about teaching and getting a change of behavior from the
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people that have, like we said before, have had these habits for like
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this woman for twenty years and she's been treated probably allopathically with pharmaceutical drugs.
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So what would you say, You know, you can just give us a
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quickened dirty on the on the approach that you take. That's an integrated approach,
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with nutrition, of course being one of the basis of the of the
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protocol. Well you said, yeah, you said it. Food is medicine.
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Let medicine be your food. Hippocrates, you know, the father of
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medicine, if you will, twenty five hundred years ago he said that something
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that I tell everybody pertaining to covid in pathogens. You can control the virus,
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but you can control the host. You want to make yourself, your
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friends or family, your patients, if you will an inhspitable host because you
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want to make your immune system as strong as you possibly can, so to
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control your host to some basic things that you should adhere to. Number one,
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avoid certain foods. Those foods would fall into a couple of acronyms.
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I have number one GPS, no gluten, no processed food, and no
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added sugar. The average American consumes one hundred and sixty pounds of sugar per
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year. Sugar works in the reward center of your brain. It's the most
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over the counter, overused drug today and it works with the reward center.
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It is extremely deleterious to your overall health. The process food Again, you
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know sixty three percent of our caloric intake come from processed food. We should
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start eating whole food. And gluten means glue and Latin sixty intestinal track it's
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a without question. And no bueno DNA. That's another acronym I use.
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No dairy. Yes, I know the Midwest hates me when I say that,
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no nicotine, and no artificial sweeteners. In addition to that, I
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would follow what I like to refer to as an anti inflammatory diet. Foods
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that you want to keep that are lower on the glycemic index. You really
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want to avoid as many sugars as you can. You also don't want to
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deep fry any food. And lastly, it maybe most importantly, you want
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to avoid vegetable oils. There are no vegetables and vegetable oils. They're seed
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oils. They're detrimental to your overall health. So when I go out to
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you with my wife and she likes to dine out, she's also very health
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conscious, we tell everybody in the restaurant we are allergic to vegetable oils.
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We would prefer something like gee olive oil or avocado oil. Again, in
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choosing foods, you want to control your glycemic index yourcemic load. You want
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to avoid and detect food sensitivities. There's a difference between food allergies and food
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sensitivities. Food allergies you'll know because when you eat it, you'll swell.
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Have you ever been on a plane and somebody said they have a peanut allergy
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and you can't even open up a peanut. That's obviously an aalogy, and
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that's what we call an IgE immune and mediative response. It's anaphylactic. Food
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sensitivities are vastly different. Most people Most doctors can't ascertain food sensitivities without testing
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because it's a seventy two hour lag from ingestion to symptomology coming out. So
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therefore, every patient that walks in my office, I test them for food
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sensitivities. Some other things to consider would be an environmental overloads. If you
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happen to live near a highway, you'll have more gas. By the way,
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the number one spot where you will get toxins is in your mattress,
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so without question, consider a flame retarded mattress. To continue with the theme
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about eating healthy, Jack O Lane, believe it or not, was a
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chiropractor. One said, if man makes it, I won't eat it.
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So stick to organic foods. Consider wild smash fish, salmon, macro anchovies,
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sardines, herring. You want to plant forward diet, consider good quality
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fruits and obviously all the vegetables from the rainbow of food, grass fed meats,
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high fiber nuts and seeds. Your chicken soup, your bone broth.
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Use herbs like ginger and tumeric. Make sure you get an appropriate fluid intake.
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And of course, if you're going to have coffee, and I am
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a big Java fan, make sure your coffee and tea are without question organic
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lifestyle hacks. Now, you and I've talked about this before. Many people
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who are into eat, anti aging and looking good at twenty to a hundred
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and twenty consider themselves or consider or what I would like to refer to as
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an intimatetum fast or time restrictive eating type of diet. Now, it's critical
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to understand that intimutu fasting time restrictive eating we use synonymously, but basically it
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means to fast and feed in the same day. So you want to fast
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during the day. You want to fast fourteen to sixteen hours. If you
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sleep eight hours and you don't eat for three hours before you go to sleep,
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you're already at eleven hours. You wake up and you don't eat right
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away, you're at fourteen hours. You want to intimnum fast because it provides
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your body with its own natural cleansing process called ourtophagy. Ourtophagy is the breakdown
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of old cells and make new cells, so you're able to make new mitochondrious
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cells, new immune cells to give yourself immune rejuvenation, new collagen cells.
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So innimnum fasting is a great lifestyle hack. Get some sleep, let's not
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forget exercise. Thirty minute of exercise minimum of day. Now. In addition
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to that, there's a study that just showed eleven minutes is enough to actually
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get a health benefit of exercise. As you told everybody, I'm a chiropractor.
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I do believe chiropractic care is a backbone of health. In addition to
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that, if you're can use any kind of modalities, low level laser therapy,
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everybody, take a deep breath and chill out, modify your stress and
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when you wake up. I ask a lot of patients and they come in
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my office, what have you done for your immune system lately? So what
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have you done today to help your immune system? Since your immune system is
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the system of longevity. And make sure, lastly, you'll always consider muscle
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mass. Muscle mass is your currency of longevity and anti aging. This morning
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I received an email from doctor Sears and Al Sears in Florida and he was
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touting his so called new technology which I've had about years. It's the power
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plate, which is you know, the the vibrational and I don't know why.
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I went to a show athletic show here in San Francisco at Moscow and
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every years ago, and I saw that this German machine, and it was
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so fascinating and I didn't have any reason to do it, but I bought
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the first one that they sold in the San Francisco Bay areas of mine.
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You know, I have the original one. It's a big one, and
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you know what I mean it. I always thought it was for old people,
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and so I didn't always embrace it, but now I'm learning, no,
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it's not. It's for everybody. And basically what it's doing is it's
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accelerating the vibrations into the mitochondria, into the atp of the of the mitochondria
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so that you get far more efficiency. And he was touting it for Parkinson's
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because with the nervous system getting circulation. So anyway, I wanted to mention
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that. But now you brought up low level laser therapy. I don't think
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too many people know that. And when I saw that in your book,
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I thought, Okay, I gotta ask doctor Rob, what is what is
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it that you know? Because we've done lasers before for other things, How
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does it work with what your practice is proposed proposing to accomplish well. Low
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level laser is synonymous with non thermal laser therapy. I do not like hot
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lasers. I like what we call a cold laser, or I should say
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non thermal laser that doesn't generate heat. So in that I use it for
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a myriad of different things. I found it to humiliate a multitude of different
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kind of conditions, some of which deal with muscule skeletal the injuries, many
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of which brain injuries, gut injuries, and as I signified in my book,
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the vegas nerves. So the vegas nerve is a critical element, and
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it does so because it sends full times into the area and that's why there's
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no heat. The photons are absorbed, and we now we're increasing in the
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mitochondria, in the cells of the body, the electromagnetic transfer of energy.
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So these are without question breakthroughs in technology. I use them every day in
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my chiropractic practice, in my functional medicine practice, and also for a body
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contour. So laser for me is the best modality and most versatile effective modality
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of the twenty first century. And which laser do you recommend? I use
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the acnea laser, and full disclosure, I do lecture for them. I've
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actually done two FDA clearances for them, and I do so because I really
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believe in the product and I love being involved in research. You know,
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there's two types of research, and everybody should do both. There's a research
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that's documented, the FDA kind, the kind in the lab, if you
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will, and then this empirical research, and we should give credence to both.
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But when you have a laser in a laser company that allows you to
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do both and puts the two of them together, that's really the secret source
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to effectiveness. Yeah, it always bothers me when they say, oh,
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this study in that Jenney, but they don't tell you that that study was
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commissioned by the very company that is going to benefit by the results. So
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it's totally biased. So whenever you look for, you know, scientific backing
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for a product or a service, you need to do what you just said,
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which is to look for the objective, neutral, the source of the
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study and the research. Correct. That's I think that's what you're trying to
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say that maybe. Yeah, what I'm saying is, you know, unfortunately
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you want to do you want to do the studies, You want to have
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the research, which you also want to have the practitioner who did the research
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practice in a setting that's clinical, so you can does a research really makes
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sense in a practical setting? Um? And that it's a critical element you
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know. Um, there's points in martial arts and then this fighting and the
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forms, so you want to be able to mix all three together to be
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the most complete person or the most complete martial artists. So today's world,
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there's so much discussion about the microbiometrain access and of course this is all very
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important in your practice. So did you talk for a moment about how you
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integrate the gut brain access and you and your practice to heal your patients.
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I'd be happy too. I believe the gut is the episode of your health.
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Eighty percent of your immune cells, ladies and gentlemen, are in your
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gut. It's where your macro, your foods, and your micro your vitamins
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and minerals are absorbed. What have you done for your guts lately? Do
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you have the guts to be healthy? Now? It's interesting about the gut
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is it as a pre communicator with virtually all your other systems now, especially
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which what you highlight was the gut to brain axis, which is bidirectional.
28:10
Whatever you do you gut, you do to your brain. Whatever you duty
28:12
your brain, your duty your gut, and it's bidirectional or a key component
28:17
of its bidirectionality is the vegas nerve. Vegas nerve is cranial nerve number ten.
28:22
It goes from the medulla oblan goat or the bottom of the brain stem
28:26
down through the transverse colon. It essentially senses what goes on inside the gut
28:32
and communicates between the gut and the brain. So everybody take a second.
28:36
So if you have an upset stomach, you're not going to think. Well,
28:40
if you fit your head, whether it's a minor concussion or a major
28:42
concussion or whatever, trype of traumatic brain injury. Whatever you've done to your
28:47
brain, it's going to communicate with your gut. We've got to be able
28:51
to treat and understand that the gut to brain axis is for me, the
28:56
super highway to health as opposed to the super highway, if you will,
29:00
an ACDC song to hell. So everybody has to think about what they're doing
29:04
for their gut lining every day, whether it's being less stress free, exercise,
29:11
foods, and that's why we talked about those foods before a gluten process,
29:17
food, sugar, dairy, nicotine and artificial sweeteners. All real runuoists
29:21
to overall gut health. Now, what's interesting about the gut. You use
29:25
the term microbiome. The microbiome is everything that's going on inside your gut.
29:30
So inside your gut you have these inhabitants. The bulk of the inhabitants or
29:33
bacteria, you actually have fun guy, you have viruses, and you have
29:38
some parasites. So your microbiome is sort of like your neighborhood. It's your
29:44
neighborhood of health. The bulk of your microbiome, or what I like to
29:48
refer to is the idea of taking up the most real estate, is something
29:52
called commensal bacteria. They're sort of like the middle class. And on the
29:56
left side, if you will, is the symbiotic. You feed those probiotics
30:00
and they populate that are rich kids. And on the right side is the
30:03
parasitic kids. You don't want too much of them, that are bad kids.
30:07
Kind of ruins the neighborhood. But you still need some because your immune
30:12
system communicates with your gut and needs to be sharp, and it will only
30:18
function well by every day testing to see if you have parasitic The takeaway to
30:25
your gut ecosystem is that you need about eighty five percent good bacteria or more
30:33
not to have something called dysbiosis. So it's not a fifty one forty nine
30:37
and you win in your president it's eighty five or more. So that really
30:42
breeds the idea of you know what, I don't want to have that Domino's
30:45
pizza and Ben and Jerry's on my cheat day. I really need to watch
30:51
what I eat regularly, and if I want something, you know that's a
30:55
little off the beaten track, I can have it, but I shouldn't have
30:59
it all the time or put it all in one day. That's not going
31:03
to work for good overall gut health because gut health again is the epicenter of
31:07
your health. So if somebody is depressed, they come into your office and
31:14
I say, you know, I'm depressed. I mean I know it.
31:17
You know, I mean I don't maybe clinically, I don't have all the
31:19
measurements. But do you then immediately go to the gut to find the solutions
31:26
for their depression? Interesting you ask that A growing conversation in gut health is
31:33
something we've all heard of. Probiotics. Probiotics to give life good bacteria.
31:37
There's now something called psychobiotics, bacteria that actually affects the mind and the mind
31:44
for depression and anxiety and mood. So that is the number one growing idea
31:52
within the gut as far as psychobiotics and probiotics. Interestingly enough, we talked
31:59
before about food sensitivities. The removal of food sensitivities decreased a myriad of symptom
32:06
ontologies. The number one symptomatology from a food sensitivity was anxiety, mood and
32:13
depression. The second one is what everybody would think is gas and bloating and
32:15
brain fog. So when you talk about depression, a great starting point would
32:22
be the gut and the gut ecosystem and what's going on inside. And one
32:28
thing you really haven't really touched on is environmental So talk to us for a
32:32
moment about what that the influence of our environmental toxins have on and what we
32:37
can do about it. There's just an article about two months ago, sorry
32:42
about that with environmental toxins, and it showed how pesticide and environmental toxins could
32:49
damage the gut and lead you down that slippery so towards what we referred to
32:52
as leaky gut. Your gut is a screen door, so everybody knows what
32:58
a screen door is. A screen door lets in and out, but it
33:00
stops flies and other things from walking in and out. When that screen door
33:05
has a whole or it's too porous like your gut, what happens is certain
33:10
things past the gut that shouldn't past the gut and stimulate reactions in your blood
33:15
system, leading you to localized inflammation, systemic inflammation, and possibly autoimmunity.
33:22
So these toxins or environmental toxins and pesticides are notorious for causing what we would
33:30
like to refer to as a leaky gut or increased intestinal permeability. You know
33:36
it scares me is that glyphosphate, which is round up, has become the
33:40
most common commonly used pesticide in this country, and yet it's banned most of
33:49
Europe, I think, and other countries. So why is it the US?
33:52
It's not irresponsible, it seems because obvious facts of deteriorating health due to
34:02
a a product that should be banned. What's why isn't that happening? You
34:12
know? What? What can we do to stop that? You just brought
34:15
up a nexus of failing health glyphosate which is in roundup, which roundup has
34:22
been called by the World Health Organization as a cancer causing ingredient, glypho sate
34:28
a common ingredient and round up. The reason glyphosate is used is to help
34:34
as an antibiotic in the soil. Ninety three of our soils are unable at
34:39
this point to be organic, so Glyphos said, as this is increased,
34:45
it's a number one herbicide in America today. As that glypho sate has increased,
34:51
so has the increase of gut issues, irritable bow, and celiac disease,
34:55
which is allergies to weed. So basically the guy for say, it
35:00
has ruined our weed. And that's why we talk about waiting or avoiding gluten
35:05
and virtual all costs. So you talked a little bit before about what the
35:08
problem is. I don't know. I have yet to hear a and again
35:13
I don't want to get into this rabbit hole, but I have yet to
35:15
hear a political person a political party talk about health. Because health starts with
35:22
our ability to consume good quality foods, and that has become really hard because
35:29
of the overuse of glyph is sated no soil I know. So then the
35:34
question, the obvious question is why why continue something that is so delatious to
35:40
our health? And we have the United States has one of the worst healthcare
35:46
records for a major country. Why are we so low? And that this
35:53
could be one answer is that we don't ban these things that we know that
35:58
are proven in other countries are way ahead of us, that are much much
36:01
less capitalized than we are. Why do we not do these things that are
36:06
good for us? I think I'm asking you a kind of an unfair question,
36:12
because obviously I just wanted to hear what you thought about it. You
36:16
know, I don't have a good answer for that. You know, it's
36:19
it's somewhat you know you asked me, and we would probably both agree it's
36:22
rhetorical. The problem is that is the problem. Why and how do we
36:29
change it? And what do we do within that dynamic? And how do
36:31
I guide my patients? So it really leaves us with form to fork or
36:37
organic type foods that haven't been exposed to glide to say, pesticides and the
36:43
like. If you're never sure if something's been sprayed, just leave it out.
36:49
So, for instance, if you were to take two pieces of lattus
36:52
and leave it on your kitchen counter, the organic one will probably start to
36:55
rot in three days outside the refrigerator. The other one will take three weeks
37:01
to rot. So I wanted to do a talk. I do a lot
37:06
of social media, we do podcasts and everything, and in that talk,
37:09
I asked some of my staff members if they'd be so kind to bring non
37:14
organic stuff, anything they may have in their shelves. So they brought up
37:17
breads and stuff like that, and I really forgot to put it in a
37:22
refrigerator. Never got to that social media short and real about two to three
37:27
weeks later, I looked at it and it was unchanged. Now how can
37:30
that be? You know, if you leave anything out, maybe other than
37:35
overnight, because you're letting it simmer down and temperature, it would be damaged.
37:39
And that says it all. Because it's there to lay on the shelf.
37:44
If you can buy something that's on the shelf for a period of time,
37:46
don't eat it. I'll say it again. Jack laid once said,
37:50
if man makes it, I won't eat it. Michael Poland says, if
37:53
it comes from a plant, it's good for me. If it's made into
37:57
plant, don't eat it. That's a good one. Like, well,
38:00
let's talk talk for a moment about supplements. Obviously, supplements are very confusing
38:07
to people. I mean, I know I even chatted with you a little
38:09
bit about that when we first met. But you know, as as a
38:15
consumer, just to give you that perspective, I'm sure you hear it all
38:17
the time from your patients. It's overwhelming, it really is to know what
38:22
is it it's best for me? And how do I determine that what's best
38:28
for me without some scientific testing? And then once I do know what's best
38:36
for me, how do I then pick amongst all the choices out there?
38:39
And for example, lately, and just this is just a little segue,
38:44
but lately, I've stopped taking anything that has magnesium steering decided. Look,
38:50
Michelle, you take so many supplements. Why are you putting these fillers into
38:54
your liver and making the liver work that much harder? And there are options
38:59
up there without those fillers that other companies spend a little more money and they
39:06
make the effort to sell it to you without that you know, less expensive
39:10
filler. So I don't know how you feel about that, but I'd love
39:14
your opinion. But anyway, let's just back up a little of that was
39:16
just a side check that we can address. If you want, sure,
39:20
let's go for it. Let's let's dive into the pool. Okay, I
39:24
agree with you. I think there's a lot of junk out there and there's
39:28
a lot of good quality. How do you know? Well? Number one,
39:32
I believe that you have to rely on a functional medicine practitioner because I
39:37
spend a lot of time finding out from different companies where they get the ingredients,
39:42
what do they use if they use it them AlSi fire, what's in
39:45
it? Where do they get those ingredients from? Is the dosage correct?
39:50
But what is the copper dosage? And the big thing is you just said
39:53
magnesium. Forget the magnesium steerrate. That's no good. You would want to
39:57
use magnesium bisk listenate if you want more magnesium because biscliscinate is attached to amino
40:02
acid and therefore, when you can consume the needed amount of magnesium and you
40:07
won't have any gas roundtestinal upset. If you took magnesium citrate, excuse me?
40:14
You use that? If you were constipated in magnesium L three and eight
40:16
is great for the brain years decrease in aging MIT two and sixteen study covering
40:23
that, then you would want me or a doc to individualize and personalize the
40:30
vitamin needs for you. And how do you do that? Well, you
40:34
do that by testing and not guessing. There's blood tested, determine your levels,
40:37
your vitamin and mineral levels, not only vitamin mineral levels in your blood,
40:43
but what's in your cells. So now when you get this very objective
40:49
findings, you can pinpoint what that individual needs. And I think that's where
40:54
it is. I had patients come in with forty or fifty bottles because they
40:59
read a blog or they source some social media real and it's not the right
41:02
formula. It's like you said, it's laced with things that they shouldn't be
41:07
taking, and they're either over underdosing and some of them are taking things that
41:12
don't really crust genders. So again, the starting point is find somebody you
41:16
trust and hope that individual has put their time and due diligence into ascertaining the
41:23
quality of the ingredients. I always look for third party certified company or FDAs
41:30
does not pertain to vitamin supplement companies and also somebody who's going to minister you.
41:36
Well. A great example vitamin D. Everybody should take their vitamin D
41:40
levels. Everybody should take their total vitamin D level, and you should be
41:45
taking if you need vitamin D. D three T is an option, but
41:50
DT is plant D two is plant D is vertebrate. You want to take
41:54
D three with K two. I cannot tell you how many of my patients,
41:59
new patients of walked in and taking D three without K two's They don't
42:04
know, they don't know, haven't been informed the why you need the K
42:08
two as a carrier of the D three, and then they should come as
42:14
I mean, if you buy them separately, that's fine, but they do
42:16
sell them as a combo too, as long as the dosage is correct.
42:20
But you go dosage combo and you take it as the carrier. Was a
42:25
great example. You're taking the D three because it carries it facilitates the movement
42:31
of calcium into the bones. Without K two, the D takes the calcium
42:37
to the soft tissue and you plaque. So here we have hormone D Vitamin
42:42
D, which is a virtuoso of sorts because it has a swath of health
42:45
promoting properties and right tapping. You're not taking it with the K two and
42:50
it's ruinous to your overall health. Great point yew, can we without you
42:55
feeling violated here confidentiality? Can you tell us a couple of items supplement companies
43:01
that we can rely on? Sure? Absolutely, okay, your full transparency
43:07
if you happen to be representing them, But just give us some ideas of
43:12
where to go to look at least to start our journey for the right supplement
43:17
program without questions. I'll give a few a few of the bigger ones.
43:22
Number one would be nutradine. Number two would be healthngevity. Number three would
43:29
be authomolecular. In addition to that, if you wanted one fell swoop,
43:34
you could look at something called a full script. And most of these products
43:38
you would need to get through our practitioner because they're two practitioner. The two
43:44
consumers have some good products and some good companies, but the ones to the
43:49
practitioner are better because the practitioners are really going to spend a little bit more
43:52
time investigating the formula, the quality of the ingredients, and if they're using
43:59
binders, and if they are, what are those binders? So okay,
44:04
so now that we know some companies, now give us the protocol, what
44:07
are the most essential even if you have never been tested, just about everybody
44:13
needs these basics. So what would you say would be that the list of
44:16
those basics. Well, for the basics, we'll just talk basic health and
44:21
then we'll do some aging stuff, because I think that people like that longevity
44:24
aging stuff. Number One, the basic would be a good multi vitamin,
44:29
multi mineral and the lega three fatty acid by the D three with K two
44:36
a probiotic, and a quality fruits in Green's drink. Now, if you
44:40
want to flip it and you want to talk a little bit about anti aging
44:45
health, Gevity has a panacea of new formulas that are just truly exciting.
44:52
They have a product called Longevity that has peptides in it that really helps people
44:57
hold onto their muscle mass and again, and muscle mass is the currency of
45:02
anti aging. In addition to that, they've got Telemere specific type of products.
45:07
And lastly, maybe most excitingly, they've got a product to help go
45:13
along with the rutophagy and intimated fasting and the new nutrients, the sexy nutrients
45:19
or BPC one fifty seven and spermidine. Yeah, I take BPC one fifty
45:24
seven. I've taken it as an injectible. I also tried it as a
45:30
as a capsule. But what would you say is the more efficacious injections or
45:36
the capsule. I'm not sure if we can still get the injection, but
45:42
I do know we can get them in a capsule form. And when they're
45:45
mixed with something called pea, which is part of your cabinoid system, you've
45:51
really got a great synergistic nutrient formula. Right. And if for the those
45:57
who don't know what it is, why don't you tell us what what it
46:00
does? A BPC one fifty seven. BPC one fifty seven does a ton
46:06
of different properties. It helps knit up different wounds, it helps knit up
46:10
injuries in a muscule scalpel. It's really good for long COVID shown to help
46:15
with leaky gut. So it's a staple for overall recovery from any kind of
46:22
injury or insight to the body. Yeah. And I took it because I
46:27
had a biking accident where I broke my tibia and fibula and this was the
46:31
way to heal more quickly and the doctor. The surgeon told me he's never
46:36
seen healing like mine. He said, you know, one month after the
46:39
surgery, he couldn't even find the fractures and the X rays. So it
46:44
does work, but I, like you said, it has all these other
46:47
attributes in additions, so you're getting the benefits. I think peptides is something
46:52
that are going to you know, take the people that are in the know,
46:57
like you, are becoming far more positive and embracing the idea of peptides.
47:04
I think that's kind of the new kid on the block. Like you
47:06
said about the BPC. So there are other peptides that I take. Thymus
47:10
in um. You know the thyme is obviously that's an anti aging and so
47:17
um the I take I took, I don't take it anymore. About AOD,
47:22
which is the weight management and you know what, woman doesn't want to
47:27
lose five pounds, right, so you know I didn't. And muscle mass
47:30
it helps with muscle masks. So those are just a few that I found.
47:36
Uh oh, and uh the other one is uh CPC. The one
47:40
that one is for you? Is that for your dreams? I can't remember
47:44
now, but yeah, yes, but anyway, so those are some just
47:49
hints for those of you watching that are wanting to get into kind of the
47:52
new kid on the blocks. As doctor Rob said BPC, a lot of
47:58
people have never heard of that and be a very effective form what he described,
48:04
what we both described. So before we run out of time, I
48:07
just want to ask a couple more very important questions. Why is there are
48:15
there so many terms like functional medicine is a term, mentory medicine, alternative
48:20
medicine, holistic medicine. I mean, it gets confusing to know what how
48:24
to discern amongst them between uh these So so just take functional for an example,
48:30
because you're you're an expert in functional medicine. And I noticed that the
48:35
father of functional medicine, Jeffrey Bland, wrote the foreword of your book.
48:37
That's pretty impressive. Actually, my doctor in LA studied with him. Doctor
48:45
she's been a guest on my podcast too, if you ever want to watch
48:47
her show. But her name is doctor Ninas sash Deeff, and she studied
48:52
with him. I think isn't he from Washington State? He is from the
48:58
state of Washington, Gig Harbor. That is correct, and that band is
49:01
the father of functional medicine and I am very fortunate to have him to write
49:07
a forward. It was a very touching moment where he accepted that and I
49:09
appreciate that. Yeah for sure. Well so what so obviously he saw a
49:15
value. You know, he's he's a pretty busy guy and very just discriminating,
49:22
So he obviously saw value in your book. And that's a great compliment
49:25
to you. What what would you say is, so, how do you
49:30
define functional medicine? And then I want to here, we get that covered
49:34
before we go. Yeah, functional medicine is an interesting term, and functional
49:37
medicine basically means we don't look at symptoms. We try to look at systems.
49:43
But the ultimate goal of functional medicine is to get to root cause resolution.
49:47
So we don't want to put a band aid on a bullet wound.
49:51
We are going to put our thinking hats on going through the system's interaction to
49:55
find out why you have that particular problem. And it's the crux of what
50:00
we do. And it does incorporate integrative medicine because it takes a multitude of
50:06
different practitioners really to get to it. It looks holistic, It looks at
50:09
the body from the inside out, so it's it's a term that really cascades
50:15
and intertwines multiple terms. Yes, and so the difference of allopathic, which
50:22
is the traditional Western medicine, is that what I understand is that the allopathic
50:29
medical doctor try we'll look at a symptom and try to give you a pharmaceutical
50:35
drug, whereas a functional medicine doctor, we'll look at the root cause,
50:38
look for the root cause, and we'll try to find non invasive and non
50:44
chemical approaches to healing. Is that fair to sum it up that way?
50:51
That is essentially the big difference. Yeah, they're looking at the symptoms,
50:54
and that's part of the problem. You know, you can pull the battery
51:00
or pull the plug out of the fire alarm, but that doesn't mean you're
51:04
affecting the fire. And functional medicine is where's the fire. Don't look at
51:08
the smoke, look at the fire. Yeah. I love that. That's
51:13
great. Well, doctor Rob, You've been wonderful and I just appreciate your
51:16
time. I see that you have a podcast, so I'm going to start
51:20
watching your podcast now because I've learned so much from just our brief interactions of
51:25
the last few weeks. And I do want to thank Rob Fletcher from Muscle
51:31
and Fitness. Yeah, good old Rob. And he's he's an amazing connector,
51:37
isn't he. That's why he's the head of business development, Right Yeah.
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I mean he's a great guy. He does a great job, and
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I'm happy to connect us. And I'm going to do a shameless plug here.
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And as you say, hacks the new the new expression today is anyone
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listening today. As I mentioned last time, By the way, I forgot
53:29
to say one more thing. James White, I want to give him a
53:31
little plug. He was a guest on my podcast, the CEO of KBMO,
53:37
which I know you and I've met through him as well. He is
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one of the greatest. His company, KBMO Diagnostics is a company that you
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use for your food, food sensitivity and gut barrier testing correct I use it
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every day in all my patients and I do reference it. I don't use
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the name because I try to not use any name in my book, and
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I would recommend everybody getting a leaky gut paddle test and are including a food
54:06
sensitivities test, right, I think that's kind of the baseline to start your
54:09
program anyway I used to. So they can go to their practitioner and request
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KBMOA because they only deal with practitioners, is what I understand, so people
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should know them. But they are on my podcast, and so doctor James
54:25
White did offer people to contact one of his big nutrition ladies that has been
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with the company many years and to get a free consultation. I was just
54:36
wondering, I don't want to put you on the spot, but is there
54:38
anything that you would like to incentivize our viewers with that would we encourage them
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to come and talk to you. Sure, the first person that reaches out
54:49
to you that says they watched it and they were interested, I will give
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a free thirty minute immune consultation and I'm offering up also a free book for
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some who asks for it from you. Oh perfect, Okay, Well I
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will let you know so if anyone wants to contact me ageless and timeless dot
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com, it's the best way and you'll see my website there. And yeah,
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for sure, that's a wonderful gift. So whoever number one is,
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let's get going, get get to yourself moving, so you get to speak
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55:52
take care of your body. It's the only place you have to live.
55:55
Thank you. I totally get that. Thank you so much. All right,
56:00
bye bye bye bye