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Speaker 1: The fields onto a group proudly presents huddle up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, J P shacker, John Ojan and NFL network
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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Buckey Brooks bring you the latest
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Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill, Jack Wars. Everything has got to
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Speaker 1: be about the future. It's got to be about tomorrow
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Speaker 1: and bringing all that into focus, as we you know,
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Speaker 1: attack the season. Huddle up with Bucky Brooks starts right
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Speaker 1: now and welcome in. This Wednesday, week three. Huddle up
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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks, J P Shadrick, along with Jaguars Dot
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Speaker 1: com senior writer John Osier here in Jacksonville Bucky Brooks
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Speaker 1: in l a. A busy show ahead, of course, week
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Speaker 1: three of the Jaguars and the L A chargers coming
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Speaker 1: up at so five stadium. It's a four oh five
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Speaker 1: eastern time kickoff Sunday. Well, here from Doug Peterson. A
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Speaker 1: little bit earlier today, Trevor Lawrence spoke, Oh Gosh, about
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes ago or so. You can catch the archive
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Speaker 1: of that on Jaguars Dot Com or Jack Social Media.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to a few social media questions today. As always. Bucky,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What's up man, here we are,
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Speaker 1: the first place Jaguars coming up. How about that? First
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Speaker 1: Place Jaguars got a big game this weekend against the chargers.
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Speaker 1: got a chance to really put a maybe a mini
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Speaker 1: vice script on the division, even though three games. But
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Speaker 1: he's already called vice script. John's okay. Well, it'd be
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Speaker 1: a step in the right direction, for sure. It certainly
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Speaker 1: was last week the Jaguars, you know, getting some things
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Speaker 1: done and that win over the Indianapolis Colts a shutout.
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Speaker 1: Of course. Doug Peterson trying to move this team forward,
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Speaker 1: though you do what it takes to win and and
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Speaker 1: sometimes each week the game plans are going to be different.
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Speaker 1: You know, the way we attack an opponent is gonna
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Speaker 1: be different, the way our opponent attacks us is going
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Speaker 1: to be different. Um, so you're you're constantly evolving and constantly,
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Speaker 1: you know, up in your game plans. That way what
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Speaker 1: we did? Yeah, I mean, if there's a blueprint, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you'd want to be that balance of run, pass and
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Speaker 1: and success in the red zone and all that. But
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Speaker 1: we know to his coaches that, you know, sometimes it's uh,
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Speaker 1: it could be a different offense from week to week
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Speaker 1: just based on your opponent. Bucky. This is kind of
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Speaker 1: reminds me John. We talked about this over the years
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Speaker 1: when we see the New England patriots come up and
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Speaker 1: at least when Tom Brady was there, not down that
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Speaker 1: path yet. But the point is they have different playbooks,
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Speaker 1: different things because of their history in the same offense. Bucky,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're obviously too far ahead of that.
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Speaker 1: That's down the years ahead to get to that point,
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Speaker 1: but it is the same kind of idea, right. It
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Speaker 1: is an offense that can ad just give a different
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Speaker 1: game plan to a different looking defense. Yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: that's one of the things if you uh, expanded on
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Speaker 1: the clip. I think Doug went on to talk about
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Speaker 1: being able to run the same concept, same plays, but
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Speaker 1: changing the people to give a different presentation to the defense,
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Speaker 1: but you're keeping it the same for the quarterback and
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Speaker 1: the players. And so if you can do that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it makes you look multifaceted, even though you're a very
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Speaker 1: simplistic in terms of what you're asking the players to execute. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, I've got a lot of questions since in
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Speaker 1: the game, jp Um, that's how it should be every week,
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Speaker 1: you know. And finally, we saw this well look, they
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Speaker 1: could be good for a long time and not have
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Speaker 1: a game that felt as comfortable as that. You have
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Speaker 1: twenty four nothing, you're in control from the start. You
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Speaker 1: get a turnover first series, you score seven nothing. You're
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Speaker 1: up fourteen nothing, and at that point you never felt
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Speaker 1: pressured to do anything out of your comfort zone. Doug
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Speaker 1: was able to run thirty seven times and throw thirty
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Speaker 1: and he alluded to it a little bit. But you know, yes,
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Speaker 1: they were able to do their optim in pass mix.
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Speaker 1: You know what they're optim in pass mix would have
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Speaker 1: been the week before had they been up fourteen in JP.
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Speaker 1: I mean, so you want to get in game situations
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Speaker 1: where you can do that. It's why they were three
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Speaker 1: turnovers and and and I know, give it. When you
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Speaker 1: were in control of the game, all right, there button,
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Speaker 1: I am all right, okay. When you were in control
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Speaker 1: of the game situationally, you can do the things you
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Speaker 1: want to do. I think Doug would tell you had
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Speaker 1: they been down ten three, you wouldn't have had that
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Speaker 1: same kind of uh, run past mix. That's the ideal, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: but it's hard to get to that ideal every week. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get to that ideal every week, but
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Speaker 1: the fact that we had a chance to see it
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Speaker 1: it allows us to really get a, I guess, a
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Speaker 1: sneak pick at division that Doug has for the offense.
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Speaker 1: I think a couple of things stood out. One Gus
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Speaker 1: Bradley's defense was the right thing for Trevor Lawrence to
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Speaker 1: face in terms of needing to get right game. It
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Speaker 1: was kind of the remedy for his woes in terms
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Speaker 1: of very static defensive defense that was gonna play top down,
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Speaker 1: that was gonna take the deep ball away and can
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Speaker 1: see it a lot of underneath throws. The Jaguars flipped
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Speaker 1: the script by becoming very aggressive in terms of getting
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Speaker 1: the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hand on those checkdowns,
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Speaker 1: empty formations, putting Christian Kirk right in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the formation. Runs a five year hits balls out, catching
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Speaker 1: uh screen passes, bootlegs. Those things are high percentage plays
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Speaker 1: that we haven't been able to really get to well.
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Speaker 1: This week we got a chance to see what happens
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Speaker 1: if Trevor Lawrence is able to get there, get those
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Speaker 1: balls completed, begin to develop a little rhythm and get
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Speaker 1: some confidence. Man, he looked like a guy. That was
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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. The trick now will be
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Speaker 1: to take all of the things that he was able
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Speaker 1: to do in that game and find a way to
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Speaker 1: kind of replicate the momentum in the rhythm that they
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Speaker 1: were able to generate very early in that contest. It
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Speaker 1: helps when you have a guy like Christian Kirk to
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Speaker 1: assist with that rhythm. He's getting open, he that his
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Speaker 1: his quickness to get opens and has been outstanding so
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Speaker 1: far and he's, I think, fourth in the league and
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Speaker 1: passed the receiving yards rather through week two. If you
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Speaker 1: have this guy, there's a reason why they pay this
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Speaker 1: guy all this money, and it's proving out over two
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Speaker 1: weeks so far. Bucky. Yeah, it is proven out over
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Speaker 1: time and you know, very early in the offseason Doug
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Speaker 1: talked about this system and veteran pass catchers and how
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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need a's to be able to be
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Speaker 1: effective and efficient on offense, but you can get a
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Speaker 1: lot done with B B plus playmakers on the outside.
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Speaker 1: And when you look at the collection of playmakers that
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Speaker 1: are on the outside, Za Jones, Marvin Jones, Christian Kirk,
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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, you throwing Travis etten. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of things that the Jaguars are able to accomplish because
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Speaker 1: they're trustworthy. On the outside. Trevor Lawrence knows that if
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Speaker 1: I get to the spot and the ball is supposed
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Speaker 1: to go to this spot on the field, his playmakers
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Speaker 1: are gonna be there, and so for young quarterback that's stability.
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Speaker 1: That consistency allows them to eventually develop confidence and you
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Speaker 1: can see the chemistry that is beginning to exist between
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Speaker 1: the young quarterback and the older receivers because he can
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Speaker 1: trust him and they're beginning to trust him. So I
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Speaker 1: guess the question would be, bucky Um, when you're not
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Speaker 1: playing a static defense, how much more difficult does it
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Speaker 1: get for Trevor Law I mean, did we see growth
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Speaker 1: from him or was it because the circumstances were right?
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Speaker 1: Does that question makes sense? UH, yeah, it makes a
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Speaker 1: lot of sense. I think the circumstances were right, but
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Speaker 1: we did see growth. And you go back to the
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Speaker 1: Washington commanders game, he missed some of the layups that
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Speaker 1: Doug had been harpened on like man. We just gotta
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Speaker 1: connect those things, particularly early in Games. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: it was a right mix. So this week it gets
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Speaker 1: the charges. You may get another thing that's very simple
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Speaker 1: because the charge want to take away the deep ball.
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Speaker 1: That's an old vic fangio trick. Forced the teams to
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Speaker 1: drive the length of the fielding. They will eventually make mistakes.
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Speaker 1: They'll do some things up front to money up the
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Speaker 1: run game, but you can see a lot of two
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Speaker 1: high safeties. This would be another challenge of Trevor's patience
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Speaker 1: and his discipline. Can he avoid trying to fit the
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Speaker 1: ball in the tight windows and just nickel and dined
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Speaker 1: the ball down the field? Brandon stately in the charges
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Speaker 1: of seeing the odds are against a player being that patience.
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Speaker 1: If Duck and get trevor to understand a the checkdown
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Speaker 1: is a win. It could be another positive result for
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence this week. I need the trick of your
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Speaker 1: task to JP, because you've got a I think the
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Speaker 1: chargers have more all pro elite high end guys on
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Speaker 1: their defense and the Colt colts are good defense like this.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you've got guys who can, I guess,
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Speaker 1: wrecked the Game Plan on defense side of the ball
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Speaker 1: and I anticipate more scoreboard pressure, if you will. I
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Speaker 1: mean it's it was again. It felt very comfortable for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars all day on Sunday because they had the
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Speaker 1: lead and there was not that threat of it was
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Speaker 1: sort of a reverse of what we've seen from the
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Speaker 1: jags a lot of time, where you just felt like
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Speaker 1: they were never putting any pressure on teams for the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years and therefore teams could play how
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Speaker 1: they wanted to, which made it hard for them to
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Speaker 1: get takeaways for this for the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: I would anticipate a lot of scoreboard pressure from saying
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Speaker 1: from Los Angeles this week. Not Necessarily, uh, because the
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Speaker 1: charge I mean because the Jaguars defense is playing poorly.
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Speaker 1: But the chargers can score on you even if you're
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Speaker 1: playing well. So I anticipate them scoring and therefore more
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Speaker 1: pressure on the Jaguars offense. I don't mean to be negative,
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Speaker 1: but I think that's probably realistic. kind of what it is.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to expect to shut out every week. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean especially against Justin Herbert, this offense. To me,
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Speaker 1: you can play very well defensively and still have them
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Speaker 1: score maybe points, even if you're playing lights out. So
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Speaker 1: buckle up long trip. Yeah, look, they pose an interesting challenge.
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Speaker 1: They pose a challenge because offensively. They certainly have five
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Speaker 1: power Keenan Allen, Mike Williams too, of the nicest receivers
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Speaker 1: that you'll see in the league. Justin Herbert, a a
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Speaker 1: budding superstar at the position. He is going to throw
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Speaker 1: all over the field. He's going to make you defend
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Speaker 1: every blade of grass. The key will be, though offessively.
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Speaker 1: How do you handle K AALIL MAC and Joey Bosa
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Speaker 1: off the edges? Can you deal with them? To give
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Speaker 1: yourself enough time, because as much as I would like
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Speaker 1: to build up the charges, and they are a fantastic defense,
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Speaker 1: they do have a lot of stars, they also have
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Speaker 1: been vulnerable at times, and so it'd be a great
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Speaker 1: what I call measuring stick game for the Jacksonville Jaguars
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Speaker 1: to see exactly where they are at this stage of
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Speaker 1: the year. Look, man, I think you take a shot
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Speaker 1: down in L A. we'll come back in a moment
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Speaker 1: and we'll get bucky's expertise on ribbon duries when we
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Speaker 1: come back. That's been the big topic this week. Of course,
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Speaker 1: the chargers quarterback Justin Herbert dealing with one. Huddle up
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Speaker 1: up with Bucky Brooks on the Jack Horrors digital network.
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Speaker 1: It's not fun, it's not comfortable. Um, you know you're
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Speaker 1: dealing with just just body movements all the time. You know,
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Speaker 1: I remember when I did mind Um, sitting down, snoozying, coughing, laughing,
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff can kind of agitate and
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Speaker 1: irritate the area. Um, but it just takes it just takes,
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Speaker 1: you know, time to heal. Said coach Chuck Peterson discussing
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Speaker 1: his past with rib injuries and welcome back. It is
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Speaker 1: huddle up with Bucky Brooks, starring Rocky Brooks in L A,
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Speaker 1: J P shadrick and John Osier in Jacksonville. It's week
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Speaker 1: three the Jaguars, the first place Jaguars. Excuse me, visit
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Speaker 1: the L A chargers. It's so far stadium. It's a
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Speaker 1: four or five kickoff coming up this Sunday and that is,
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Speaker 1: I would say, outside of Jacksonville. The top storyline of
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Speaker 1: this game is Justin Herbert's rib cartilage tear, I guess,
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Speaker 1: is our cartilage fracture. Is what was initially diagnosed right
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Speaker 1: after the game last week. All right, you're out in
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Speaker 1: L A. What are you hearing about this Um? This
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Speaker 1: rib issue for Herbert, and it sounds like he might
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Speaker 1: give it a go. Oh, I absolutely expect him to play. Uh.
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Speaker 1: One of the reports coming out of the NFL network
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Speaker 1: was that he was in the building facility kind of
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Speaker 1: going through everything that is expected of him. Didn't show
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Speaker 1: any outward signs of being bothered. I felt like he
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Speaker 1: was lighthearted and jovial. So now I expect to see
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Speaker 1: number ten run out the tunnel when they do to
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Speaker 1: start in line ups. No laughing, though, because that can
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Speaker 1: hurt it too. It's is Doug set right. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know what I heard. It worse if Trayvon walking
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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen get the beating on him like they
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Speaker 1: beat up on Matt Ryan. It changes a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: You start making decisions when you get hit. At the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, the game is going to be
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Speaker 1: about Kenna. Jaguars hit Justin herd because if they hit him,
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Speaker 1: things have changed. I mean you can't hit guys at
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Speaker 1: the knees of the head anymore, but you can hit
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Speaker 1: him and uh so I'm sure it will be an
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Speaker 1: assisted hit. This guy legally as often, as hard as possible,
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Speaker 1: like it always is. But Um, when you have a
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Speaker 1: quartreck where that's an issue, that becomes a reality. Oh
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Speaker 1: it does. And not only that, you not only want
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Speaker 1: to hit on him, but if you happen to hit
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Speaker 1: him and you can lay on top of him a
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Speaker 1: little bit, you don't mind getting up slowly, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, making little uncomfortable for a little fellow. Wow,
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Speaker 1: I like that. I like that bucky given him the
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Speaker 1: business inside or tip. I'm just saying, uh, I mean
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Speaker 1: if if some of our big guys happened to land
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Speaker 1: on if you don't mind him putting three in some
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Speaker 1: pounds on them a little bit, then feel that those
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Speaker 1: ribs expand. Yeah, and it's it's a believe it or not,
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Speaker 1: I've had a rib injury. JP. I can't wait to
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Speaker 1: hear this. You know, when my last time is playing basketball,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it hurts for a while. I did never
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Speaker 1: in my life with the thought, Bucky, that John Osan
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Speaker 1: would be giving us injury details. It can smart a
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Speaker 1: little bit. It lasted for a few weeks. I was
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Speaker 1: about twenty five or twenty six and I often not
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Speaker 1: to play anymore that you retired. You have some bucky.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's an injury and the player says it's not
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Speaker 1: gonna end here. It's my career is not gonna end now.
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Speaker 1: I pretty much decide it was gonna end. So that
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Speaker 1: was that. I didn't have the heart to fight through it,
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Speaker 1: so I became what you see here today. Yeah, okay, whatever,
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Speaker 1: amys Jo. Okay, all right, I will say this. So bucky,
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Speaker 1: there may not be a lot of running around with him, right,
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Speaker 1: if he's trying to protect that rib area, he'll be
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Speaker 1: kind of standing back there, right. Yeah, they also would
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Speaker 1: try and game plan to make sure they protect them.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of things. We probably see the ball
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Speaker 1: that came out really quickly. Uh. You see a lot
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Speaker 1: of quick game, a lot of quick passes, a lot
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Speaker 1: of things that I would call catch and run concepts
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Speaker 1: designed to get the ball in the hands of the playmakers,
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Speaker 1: let them catching on the move so they can run
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Speaker 1: and get extra yardage. You'll see some of the screen
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Speaker 1: game so they can entice the Jaguars in but kind
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Speaker 1: of dump it off to Austin Ekeler, let him go
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Speaker 1: to work on the perimeter and then, if they do
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Speaker 1: decide to take shots. Uh, you see them load up
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Speaker 1: on protection, so maybe heavy play action, maybe keep an
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Speaker 1: extra blocker or two in and you might see some two,
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Speaker 1: maybe three man routes where they try and take advantage
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Speaker 1: um of the protection while also attacking the deep parts
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Speaker 1: of the field. Yeah, to me, Bucky, this is such
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Speaker 1: a much different challenge in the colts presented, because you
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Speaker 1: knew exactly you know. I'm not gonna take away with
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars accomplished against the colts, offensively being the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense, but with their receivers out, you knew exactly
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Speaker 1: what you needed to do to take it way Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 1: They did a great job with it. Now you've got
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Speaker 1: to take away the wide receivers and the guy that
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about, Bucky's Austin Ekeler. Um
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Speaker 1: a come, guys in the locker room say, look at it,
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Speaker 1: it's not Jonathan Taylor, but it's a real challenge stopping
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Speaker 1: this guy. He's very creative. He puts a real strain
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Speaker 1: on the defense. He does put a strain on the
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Speaker 1: de Defense because he's, uh, what they call one of
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Speaker 1: those satellite backs. He's a guy who works best in space.
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Speaker 1: So when you have an opportunity to catch the ball
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Speaker 1: out the Backfield, he can make those things happens outstanding
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Speaker 1: with his hands, good route running ability and those things.
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Speaker 1: As a runner, he does his best work on the edges,
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Speaker 1: working off tackle. He'll hit you with some deceptive runs
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Speaker 1: on Mr Rexton and draws, but he wants to get
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Speaker 1: to the perimeter. He's affected. Now the thing about Austin Ekeler,
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Speaker 1: because of his size, not necessarily a Banger, so he
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Speaker 1: can get banged up running in between the tackles, and
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Speaker 1: so it's really important for the Jaguars to be aware
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Speaker 1: of where he is. Be Aware of his whereabouts. Make
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Speaker 1: sure you have people assigned to him. Don't let him
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Speaker 1: get loose on those underneath throws and checkedouts. But in
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Speaker 1: the running game you gotta pound on him a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You gotta pound on him and make them bring in
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Speaker 1: the other back. I had a sports editor wants to
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Speaker 1: J V. I used the phrase that a guy I
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Speaker 1: ran well in space. I gotta call. I guess who
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Speaker 1: didn't run well in space. There's nobody there to tackle smart. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I had to. Let's return and will touch on
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Speaker 1: the offensive lines game coming up this week. Well, the
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Speaker 1: one last week too played well, kept Trevor Upright. And
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Speaker 1: the challenge ahead against the L A chargers. And we'll
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Speaker 1: get to some of your social media questions. It is
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Speaker 1: huddle up with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars digital network.
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Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks is near the Hornets Nest. This Sunday
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars will visit the L A chargers at so
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Speaker 1: far stadium. How far away from so far are you, Buckey? Uh,
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Speaker 1: if if we don't have trap, I think I'm only
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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, but with traffic, who knows, they could
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Speaker 1: take off four day to get there. You always have traffic, though.
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Speaker 1: That's the issue. In Los Angeles hey there wasn't much
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Speaker 1: traffic in the backfield. Against the Jaguars offensive line last
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Speaker 1: week they stepped up played well. I think trevor was
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Speaker 1: only hit a couple of times in the game, no sacks.
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Speaker 1: Part of it was getting out quicker also, but that
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Speaker 1: combination was a good step in the right direction for
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Speaker 1: this offensive line. But now the challenge shifts a little bit.
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Speaker 1: It was interior in week one against Washington Um. This
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Speaker 1: week it's those outside guys. Scalil mack obviously enjoy Bosa,
18:37
Speaker 1: bucky or two of the top pass rushers in the game.
18:41
Speaker 1: And let's start with Mac he's been at this for
18:44
Speaker 1: a long time as third different team. What kind of
18:47
Speaker 1: players he now in year number nine? Oh, he's still
18:51
Speaker 1: a very disruptive player, a guy who can get after it.
18:55
Speaker 1: We've seen that. We thought that he had lost some
18:57
Speaker 1: of the sauce during the time of Chicago. Nope. All
19:00
Speaker 1: you have to do is look at week one to
19:02
Speaker 1: see that it is back. So the trick will be,
19:05
Speaker 1: how do you contain him while also neutralizing Joey Bosa?
19:10
Speaker 1: It is a hard, hard deal. So, Cam Robinson, do
19:14
Speaker 1: you want to tell you? On the edges, they're going
19:16
Speaker 1: to need to be at their best. They gotta Win.
19:18
Speaker 1: They can't necessarily win that matchup, but they gotta fight
19:21
Speaker 1: it to a steelmate. They can't let these guys completely
19:24
Speaker 1: take over the game on the inside. On the outside, yeah,
19:27
Speaker 1: it's a different task. I mean, thank unique and got
19:31
Speaker 1: way is a good pass rusher, but he's not two
19:33
Speaker 1: guys and he's also not the complete player if these
19:36
Speaker 1: two guys are. I mean Kamil Mac can take away
19:40
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do in the run game too.
19:42
Speaker 1: So it's just a completely different challenge. Um I I
19:47
Speaker 1: would be surprised if you don't hear some sort of
19:51
Speaker 1: noise from the two edge rushers. Like bucky said, you
19:55
Speaker 1: have to be able to neutralize them enough to make
19:59
Speaker 1: some plays where they're big plays don't feel like they
20:02
Speaker 1: matter as much. And then on the other side, Bucky,
20:05
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. We've seen this guy a number of years
20:08
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Also, he'll line up, I guess, exclusively
20:11
Speaker 1: on the defensive left, over the right tackle right. Yeah,
20:16
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be there. You know exactly where their
20:17
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be. They don't necessarily flip flop him.
20:20
Speaker 1: They're just gonna let those guys those guys play and
20:23
Speaker 1: they're gonna get after it. I think the difference when
20:25
Speaker 1: you're looking at the game between Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa,
20:28
Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack is what we call a power rusher.
20:30
Speaker 1: Everything with him is gonna be Brute Force. If anything,
20:35
Speaker 1: trayvon walkers should be looking at this game and watching
20:37
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack Operate, because you hope that his game can
20:41
Speaker 1: mature like Khalil Max Bosa is a refined technician. He
20:46
Speaker 1: is going to hit you with an array of moves
20:48
Speaker 1: and once he figures out what you have problems with,
20:51
Speaker 1: you can see a steady diet of those moves. And
20:54
Speaker 1: so for the Jaguars it's about getting the ball out
20:57
Speaker 1: quick it's about standing away from long Guardis atations and
21:00
Speaker 1: being able to have enough balance that they can never
21:04
Speaker 1: pin their ears back and go after Trevor Lawrence in
21:07
Speaker 1: the pocket. Why? Must be getting old, because it feels
21:10
Speaker 1: like Joey Bose is like in a second or third year.
21:12
Speaker 1: Seventh year him standing at the combine. That give us
21:16
Speaker 1: yesterday and yeah, these two guys. It's UH, they're a
21:21
Speaker 1: rare combination of great at both edges. A lot of
21:25
Speaker 1: teams try to build where you have booke and pass rushers. Uh,
21:31
Speaker 1: you don't often get it, and his team's got it.
21:34
Speaker 1: Let's take a time out. We'll come back at your
21:35
Speaker 1: social media questions and our final thoughts ahead of this
21:38
Speaker 1: week three match up. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks
21:41
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars digital network. Welcome back. Huddle up with
21:47
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, presented by the fields auto group, J P, Shadrick,
21:50
Speaker 1: John Osier and you guess it, Bucky Brooks. The Jaguars
21:55
Speaker 1: and the chargers coming up in week three. It's so
21:57
Speaker 1: far stadium. We mentioned the past usher's John but it's
22:01
Speaker 1: not just a pass rushing team. They have some other
22:04
Speaker 1: guys on the back end that can play too. Yeah,
22:06
Speaker 1: I actually have a question for former defensive back Bucky Brooks.
22:09
Speaker 1: Um What? It's an obvious storyline when you have Derwin James,
22:16
Speaker 1: but tell me about how, when Trevor Lawrence is behind center,
22:22
Speaker 1: how much does he have to worry about Derwin James?
22:25
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say this guy is somebody that
22:27
Speaker 1: trevor has to know where he is at all times?
22:29
Speaker 1: Is He that sort of player who can take the
22:31
Speaker 1: game away create turnovers like that? How does he affect games?
22:38
Speaker 1: We don't have you, bucky. Didn't like the question. Oh,
22:42
Speaker 1: you lost, we got you now, we've got you now. Okay,
22:44
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. All Right, Um, he is
22:46
Speaker 1: an all pro player with a unique skill set. He
22:49
Speaker 1: isn't a racer. He's a guy who has the UM
22:52
Speaker 1: ability to line up anywhere in the secondary and cover,
22:55
Speaker 1: whether it's a slot receiver, receiver out wide at tidy
22:59
Speaker 1: and being able to be in the box impact the
23:01
Speaker 1: game as a pass rusher. He can do all of
23:03
Speaker 1: those things. So what you want to do early in
23:06
Speaker 1: the contest and just kind of get a feel for
23:08
Speaker 1: how they're deploying him. Are they going to put during
23:10
Speaker 1: James on Evan Ingram to make sure that Evan Ingram
23:13
Speaker 1: doesn't get loose? Are they going to allow and to
23:15
Speaker 1: drop in the box and just be a lurker to
23:17
Speaker 1: take away some of the underneath throws? You have to
23:20
Speaker 1: keep an eye on number three because he is a
23:22
Speaker 1: guy who can certainly change the game plan. More importantly,
23:25
Speaker 1: he is their enforcement. He wants to deliver a big
23:29
Speaker 1: hit early to kind of set the tone for the game,
23:32
Speaker 1: and so the guys who are running the ball, Trevor Lawrence,
23:34
Speaker 1: who's throwing it. You gotta keep your head on the
23:36
Speaker 1: spool because number three we're trying to deliver a knockout shot.
23:39
Speaker 1: And they revamped their defense, but that was their big
23:42
Speaker 1: offseason thing. They felt like they had to have the
23:43
Speaker 1: defense catch up. Uh. In your view, how successful were they?
23:50
Speaker 1: Is this still a defense that can be attacked? Is
23:52
Speaker 1: this a team's strength? Tell me about the chargers defense. Yeah,
23:56
Speaker 1: charges defense is super talented. Um. We've talked about Joey, Boston,
23:59
Speaker 1: cale Mack joining forces. UH, they already had derwin James
24:04
Speaker 1: as a centerpiece playing in the middle of the field.
24:06
Speaker 1: They bring over J C Jackson, one of the top
24:08
Speaker 1: corners and football, and then they got some young guys
24:10
Speaker 1: that they've drafted, Samuel Jr, to make plays, and so
24:14
Speaker 1: the talent is there. Schematically, what you have is brandon
24:18
Speaker 1: stately trying to still figure out how to run big
24:21
Speaker 1: FANGIO's defense. They've had kind of a mixed bag when
24:25
Speaker 1: it comes to success, but it looks like they're trending
24:28
Speaker 1: to get in the right way, because you're not seeing
24:30
Speaker 1: as many egregious errors and coverage bus as you've seen
24:34
Speaker 1: previously in the city. I do a final question for
24:38
Speaker 1: I guess it's still the defensive back I'm asking on. Yeah, yeah,
24:42
Speaker 1: this one. Um. Everybody talks about Justin Herbert so much
24:47
Speaker 1: and there's an assumption that he's really good, and he
24:49
Speaker 1: is really really good from the scouts point of view.
24:54
Speaker 1: I guess why tell me something about him that maybe
25:01
Speaker 1: when you just watch him on TV, maybe you don't see.
25:04
Speaker 1: Why do you think he is so accelerated? Good? UH,
25:09
Speaker 1: number one, he's the prototype. He's exactly what every offensive coordinator,
25:14
Speaker 1: every NFL head coach, every general manager wants at the position.
25:17
Speaker 1: Six Five, thirty plus pounds, athletic, can move around and
25:21
Speaker 1: make plays with his leg and arm, but wants to
25:25
Speaker 1: deal from the pocket. Three sports standout coming out of
25:28
Speaker 1: high school. Um has always been a high I q guy,
25:32
Speaker 1: crazy majors, maybe a biology major at Oregon, something ridiculous
25:36
Speaker 1: where you can see his academic wears. But he's everything.
25:40
Speaker 1: I mean he's everything from a mental standpoint, a physical
25:44
Speaker 1: standpoint that you wanted to position. I think the thing
25:47
Speaker 1: that has been most impressive he jumped in as a
25:51
Speaker 1: guy who got to call five minutes before a game
25:53
Speaker 1: that hey, you're starting because tyrod Taylor had been um
25:57
Speaker 1: had his lung punctured getting a shot before the game.
26:00
Speaker 1: Jumped right in and has a skip to beat, since
26:03
Speaker 1: a lot of US might have missed a boat on
26:05
Speaker 1: him when he was coming out of Oregon just because
26:07
Speaker 1: of the style of the office and how they utilized him.
26:10
Speaker 1: But he is a superstar in every sense of the word.
26:13
Speaker 1: That said, Trevor Lawrence is building the same mold and
26:19
Speaker 1: I have said when Trevor Lawrence was coming out that
26:21
Speaker 1: he would have an opportunity to be Justin Herbert plus,
26:24
Speaker 1: because Trevor Lawrence is more athletic and more dynamic than
26:27
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert has just been good from the jump.
26:31
Speaker 1: That's the difference. It's the same guy wielding the needle.
26:35
Speaker 1: Keep it away if I'm Justin Herbert, that's for sure.
26:38
Speaker 1: If that happened to tyrode pass. Let's get to the
26:43
Speaker 1: social media questions today. We put the cat and signal
26:47
Speaker 1: out earlier. Here's the best that we've come up with today.
26:50
Speaker 1: At Goggles Zip Desno one. What's it like being a
26:54
Speaker 1: sideline reporter? Do you have restrictions on what you report?
26:57
Speaker 1: Could you suit up if a running short of DBS,
27:00
Speaker 1: since you're already hanging around the sideline? Okay, let's see. UH,
27:06
Speaker 1: could I suit up? Yes, I could suit up, but
27:08
Speaker 1: I could not make my way onto the field. It
27:11
Speaker 1: hurts me just looking at the people move around. So
27:13
Speaker 1: I could wear the uniform, but I wouldn't be able
27:16
Speaker 1: to do anything. If they asked me to play, I
27:17
Speaker 1: would immediately have a hamstring pool. Uh, the field analyst
27:21
Speaker 1: rolls on the southeline. Has Been a lot of fun
27:23
Speaker 1: because it's a mix of watching the game uh and,
27:26
Speaker 1: like me, optimal seats, but then also being able to
27:30
Speaker 1: hear the coaches and seeing the interactions. It's been a
27:32
Speaker 1: blast and hopefully you can add a little flavor to
27:35
Speaker 1: what the radio broadcast is already doing. It sounds good too, man.
27:38
Speaker 1: It's it's been a nice addition so far, for sure.
27:40
Speaker 1: A question number two on social media from earlier today.
27:45
Speaker 1: This is at Brad underscored the D S Sports. How
27:49
Speaker 1: do you believe our receiving core matches up where they're
27:51
Speaker 1: rebuilt secondary, including some really good, great players? Hashtag Duvoll
27:56
Speaker 1: when we've just touched on the secondary. But what about
27:59
Speaker 1: the matchup? How? How does this Jaguars Wide Receiver Group
28:03
Speaker 1: Week to week, match up with most secondaries? So the
28:07
Speaker 1: Jaguars Second, I mean wide receiver group, is solid. I
28:10
Speaker 1: wonder how the charges will view this. Will they view
28:13
Speaker 1: this as one where they feel like they need to
28:15
Speaker 1: travel their corner J C Jackson with the number one
28:19
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. That we're assuming this Christian Kirk. If they
28:22
Speaker 1: don't do that, then I really like the matchups because, look,
28:26
Speaker 1: there there's some advantages that duck can scheme up and
28:29
Speaker 1: create just by the way that he moves the personnel
28:32
Speaker 1: around the formation, particularly an empty formation. I think this
28:36
Speaker 1: ultimately comes down to the chess match that doesn't involve
28:39
Speaker 1: the person on the field, but is Doug Peterson playing
28:42
Speaker 1: the game with Brandon Staley on who do you want
28:45
Speaker 1: to match up with and how can I take advantage
28:47
Speaker 1: of the matchups that you want to try it out there.
28:49
Speaker 1: Bucky is is a Christian, a tough matchup in the
28:52
Speaker 1: sense of if if you're going to follow him with
28:56
Speaker 1: a one man with the number one corner, the number
29:02
Speaker 1: one corner is not really used to play in the
29:04
Speaker 1: slot all the time, right. Does that add a different dynamic?
29:07
Speaker 1: You follow me? Yeah, it does. It has a huge dynamic.
29:10
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because a lot of times
29:14
Speaker 1: when we talk about the nickel position, it's a bit
29:16
Speaker 1: of a throwaway. Hey, let's take the little small guy
29:18
Speaker 1: and put him in the nickel but really the way
29:20
Speaker 1: you need to think about the nickel corner is that
29:22
Speaker 1: needs to be your best corner. He needs to be
29:25
Speaker 1: your best and smartest guy inside because he now plays
29:29
Speaker 1: the role of part Linebacker, part cover corner, part safety,
29:34
Speaker 1: because he has a bunch of responsibilities on his plate
29:38
Speaker 1: and it's hard for a guy who has always lived
29:40
Speaker 1: on the island outside to come inside because it's noisy,
29:44
Speaker 1: it's a lot of traffic. You gotta work around angles
29:47
Speaker 1: and deal with what we call two weight goes by
29:49
Speaker 1: the receiver because they're off the ball and they can
29:52
Speaker 1: go in motion and they can kind of come in
29:54
Speaker 1: and out and really twist you up in knots. It's
29:56
Speaker 1: a very tough challenge. So if J C Jackson is
29:59
Speaker 1: the guy that is going to follow, it could be
30:02
Speaker 1: a tough day for him because it's hard working inside.
30:04
Speaker 1: You gotta have that dog in you. They said you dog,
30:07
Speaker 1: and it's it's interesting. I think there's been such an
30:11
Speaker 1: evolution of slot and nickel corner over the last five,
30:15
Speaker 1: six seven years and you almost wonder if if the
30:18
Speaker 1: Jaguars might be on top of something in terms of,
30:21
Speaker 1: you know, having your best guy, which think Christian is,
30:24
Speaker 1: be that Slot Guy, because it does create some weirdness
30:28
Speaker 1: for a defense trying to defend it so we'll see
30:30
Speaker 1: if that that holds going forward. Alright, question it creates
30:34
Speaker 1: it creates another issue too, John. It creates an issue
30:37
Speaker 1: when your best player can go into slot. It's the
30:40
Speaker 1: easiest throw for the quarterback because it's the coast is
30:42
Speaker 1: thrown to the quarterback, and so, with the use of
30:45
Speaker 1: motion and shifting and put him in the Backfield, it
30:49
Speaker 1: makes it very, very difficult if your number one player
30:51
Speaker 1: can go into slot, to double team him, to bracket him.
30:54
Speaker 1: You have to have so many different contingency plans that
30:57
Speaker 1: it really makes defensive coordinated as leary or trying to
31:00
Speaker 1: do a bunch of different things to contain somebody inside.
31:03
Speaker 1: Question three, social media, twitter. In fact, at s Boston
31:08
Speaker 1: to seven, will Justin Herbert be able to last the
31:10
Speaker 1: whole game if they start getting shots on him? chargers
31:13
Speaker 1: old line is not a pent besides Ray Shawn slater.
31:17
Speaker 1: Question Mark, what are you thinking? He's a war you
31:21
Speaker 1: know he's a tough guy because the way that he
31:23
Speaker 1: was hit in the kancity chiefs game, unless the feller
31:26
Speaker 1: would have gone out and not come back in, the
31:28
Speaker 1: fact that he came back in and delivered the dimes
31:30
Speaker 1: that he was delivering I would expect him to play
31:32
Speaker 1: the entire game. That's it. Uh. It's one thing that
31:37
Speaker 1: that changes sometimes when you're injured, like him not being
31:41
Speaker 1: able to know when he's going to have the twins
31:43
Speaker 1: of pain when he throws the ball. That could impact
31:46
Speaker 1: him because if it says at random, as some rip
31:50
Speaker 1: injuries can be, when it comes to when you get
31:52
Speaker 1: that that shock of a surge of pain in between
31:55
Speaker 1: the card lets, it could be it could be an issue.
31:58
Speaker 1: So I give him credit for being tough enough to
32:01
Speaker 1: run out there if that's what he's going to do,
32:04
Speaker 1: but his performance may be negatively impacted by having to play, uh,
32:09
Speaker 1: in those conditions. Yeah, I know you guys have used
32:12
Speaker 1: my rib injury as a point of reference on this,
32:14
Speaker 1: but I did not go back out and play. Didn't.
32:16
Speaker 1: You didn't take many hits either. It's not a warrant.
32:20
Speaker 1: You didn't throw the ball down the field. Um. Final
32:22
Speaker 1: question from social media today. Will wrap it up. After
32:25
Speaker 1: this at Hoduri Eleven. What kind of challenge from the
32:27
Speaker 1: chargers defense could make Trevor Lawrence Struggle? When contrasting it
32:31
Speaker 1: to the success you had against the colts, how different
32:34
Speaker 1: is this defense? A lot different, it's a lot different
32:38
Speaker 1: because I would say on the outside they have better
32:40
Speaker 1: pass rushers. H Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack are well
32:45
Speaker 1: established pass rushers that are high end plays, all pro players. UH,
32:48
Speaker 1: the end of this coast had one deforrest Buckler, who's
32:51
Speaker 1: a problem. Yaniking Gokui is at a knotch below what
32:54
Speaker 1: these other guys are. So the thing for Trevor Lawrence is,
32:58
Speaker 1: how do you handle, uh, those guys coming off the edge?
33:02
Speaker 1: You can't necessarily run around as much for the bootlegs
33:05
Speaker 1: because they're fast and they'll copy you up. So it's
33:07
Speaker 1: a different challenge, but it's one where I think Doug Peterson,
33:11
Speaker 1: priss Taylor, they'll be able to scheme up some things
33:14
Speaker 1: that maybe take advantage of those guys and where they
33:16
Speaker 1: line up. I think it'll be a little bit of
33:17
Speaker 1: a test for Trevor. He it's probably uh, it's disingenuous.
33:25
Speaker 1: Is what I'm looking forward to. Think he's not gonna
33:26
Speaker 1: get hit. With these two passed restores, he's gonna get hit.
33:29
Speaker 1: He didn't get hit it all against the colts. Had
33:31
Speaker 1: A great day this game. It seems like it might
33:35
Speaker 1: be a test to see if he can do what
33:36
Speaker 1: Herbert did last week, which is get hit a couple
33:39
Speaker 1: of times, get up UH and play through it and
33:42
Speaker 1: play at a high level. He's a tough kid. I
33:44
Speaker 1: see no reason why he can't, but I think that
33:47
Speaker 1: will be a thing that he has to do on Sunday. Bucky,
33:51
Speaker 1: how you feeling about this Sunday? I feel good about it.
33:54
Speaker 1: I feel good about it because I feel like this
33:56
Speaker 1: is what you want earlier in the year. You want
33:58
Speaker 1: a measuring stick game in the first quarter of the
34:00
Speaker 1: season to see exactly where you are, even if you
34:03
Speaker 1: fall shorten this when it gives you an opportunity to
34:05
Speaker 1: look back at where you are, what you need to
34:07
Speaker 1: work on and how you can make those strides in
34:10
Speaker 1: place until you get to another what we call milestone
34:12
Speaker 1: game where you can measure up. So I think the
34:16
Speaker 1: Jaguars should baby go to L A and play loose,
34:18
Speaker 1: that should play free, because we talked about the proverbial underdog.
34:22
Speaker 1: You have nothing to lose. This is one where, man,
34:24
Speaker 1: they can swing the sword because no one expects the
34:27
Speaker 1: Jaguars is going to roll and knock off the charges.
34:29
Speaker 1: If they get this done, it gives them a world
34:32
Speaker 1: of confidence, particularly with the division looking like division is
34:35
Speaker 1: already shaping up to be anything. Johnny I, it's a
34:39
Speaker 1: tough matchup. I would I would love nothing more than
34:42
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to go win this. I've been saying it
34:45
Speaker 1: all week. You can be really good and really competitive
34:50
Speaker 1: and playing well and not win either the next two
34:53
Speaker 1: games you're the Jaguars, because they're very tough matchups. I
34:57
Speaker 1: keep going back to the Justin Herbert thing. You can
35:00
Speaker 1: play really well against this guy on defense and him
35:03
Speaker 1: still beat you because it's it's tough to defend the
35:06
Speaker 1: perfect pass. So I think it's a really tough matchup.
35:09
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars will go play well and be competitive.
35:12
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they come home, uh, winning, but
35:15
Speaker 1: not as surprised as that would have been in year's past.
35:18
Speaker 1: I like it. Jaguars heading to so five stadium Los
35:22
Speaker 1: Angeles to face the L A chargers and Bucky I,
35:26
Speaker 1: have a great rest of the week. We'll see you
35:28
Speaker 1: in L A. Yeah, we look forward to it. Home,
35:32
Speaker 1: home game, home game this week. I love that. Bucky Brooks,
35:35
Speaker 1: John Osier, our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver, I'm
35:38
Speaker 1: J P shadrick will catch you next time it's heddle
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Speaker 1: up with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars digital network.