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Ep. 242: Rut Radio 10/17/18 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan in this episode number two forty two,
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Speaker 1: and today in the show, we are back with another
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Speaker 1: episode of our Rut radio mini series in which we're
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Speaker 1: getting from the field reports from deer hunters all across
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Speaker 1: the country about current conditions, deer activity, the progress of
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Speaker 1: the white tail rut, and everything you need to know
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Speaker 1: to have success right now, all right, welcome to the
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Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx, and
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Speaker 1: we're back for our weekly Rut radio mini series in
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Speaker 1: which we are hearing from experts all across the country
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Speaker 1: about the latest in the white tell world. What kind
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Speaker 1: of action is happening right now, how the conditions are
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Speaker 1: impacting deer and dear activity, how other changing variables in
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Speaker 1: the future might impact things down the road, and all
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Speaker 1: that's done by way of the interviewing skills of my
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Speaker 1: buddy Spencer new Hearth. How are you, man, I'm doing
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Speaker 1: good and I am feeling especially optimistic because on Monday
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Speaker 1: night I saw a certain dear would this certain dear
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Speaker 1: be named after a Forced Gump character. Yes, yes, at
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Speaker 1: two hundred yards on Monday night, I had Lieutenant Dan
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Speaker 1: and I was hunting the property where I've been catching
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Speaker 1: him movement, catching him moving basically since July. I was
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Speaker 1: in the standard that I was trying to kill him
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Speaker 1: out of in early September, and I hadn't seen him
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Speaker 1: much since then. But that evening I saw him get
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Speaker 1: out of his bed, which was about four hundred yards
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Speaker 1: away and from where I kicked him out of his
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Speaker 1: bed back at the end of August. He was only
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Speaker 1: betted maybe a hundred hundred fifty yards from there, so
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Speaker 1: he hadn't moved too much. Um. But what I do
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Speaker 1: know about him is that he has kind of changed
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Speaker 1: his food pattern. Previously, in the summer and early early September,
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Speaker 1: he was hanging out my soybeans a lot, but now
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Speaker 1: he is obviously focused on some natural brows as well
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Speaker 1: as an LFLFA field on the neighbor's property. UM. On
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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Spencer, how freaking stoked
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Speaker 1: were you when he finally saw that deer? I kind
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Speaker 1: of believe that was excited. It was pretty excited. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And it's really like one of the biggest bucks that
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Speaker 1: I've seen on the hoof. I suspect him to be
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Speaker 1: in the one fifties or one sixties um, and so
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Speaker 1: I was really excited. If I didn't even know this
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Speaker 1: deer existed, I'd have been stoked. Now, something that has
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Speaker 1: me a little bit concerned is he was betting and
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Speaker 1: it appeared that he was feeding on the neighbor's property.
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Speaker 1: Now I can get sort of close to his betting
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Speaker 1: um on my property still, But right now, I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure in this next week or so that it's going
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Speaker 1: to happen with him, because he's probably not going to
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Speaker 1: change much of what he's doing. But once we get
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Speaker 1: into that late October early November, he starts getting a
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Speaker 1: little more restless. He would maybe be more vulnerable to
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Speaker 1: some calling. I think that you're gonna shot at him
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Speaker 1: some morning. That is awesome. Now, I know we're gonna
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Speaker 1: hear from a lot of folks here shortly about what's
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Speaker 1: been happening the last four or five six days, which
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Speaker 1: has been this this cold front and moved through for
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Speaker 1: a lot of people. Do you attribute this sighting and
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Speaker 1: the activity that you saw in South Dakota would you
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Speaker 1: attribute it to this changing weather. Um, I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: about that, because North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, we've been
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Speaker 1: kind of unique and now we've been cold for a
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Speaker 1: long time, or prior to that cold front showing up,
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Speaker 1: we had already been cold for like five days. And so, uh,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what I would attribute that sighting to.
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Speaker 1: Actually saw a lot of deer that evening, and I
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Speaker 1: think one of the big things is that those deer
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Speaker 1: had remained on pressured. Something we'll talk about a little
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Speaker 1: bit later here in the episode. Um, is precipitation. But
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Speaker 1: for me to get to this property, uh, I have
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Speaker 1: to travel long ways down m no maintenance dirt road,
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Speaker 1: and so I hadn't been back there in a long time.
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Speaker 1: I know the neighbors have not been hunting in a
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Speaker 1: long time, and so those deer are just largely on
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Speaker 1: pressured right now. It's a nice that's a nice thing
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Speaker 1: to have. That's that's gonna bode well for you, hopefully
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Speaker 1: for the next week or two. I mean, I would
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Speaker 1: you agree that probably the pressure won't ramp up around
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Speaker 1: you until more of that rut time period. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: and even then, the archery pressure is still fairly low.
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Speaker 1: But once we hit firearm season in mid November. Uh,
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Speaker 1: that's when the deer are more likely to you know,
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Speaker 1: look up in trees and and that kind of thing
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Speaker 1: got you so South Dakota, you saw a lot of activity.
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Speaker 1: What what number would you stick on it? It was good?
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Speaker 1: I would put it like a seven or eight. And
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Speaker 1: you know, really optimistic for this time of year if
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Speaker 1: you have a food source, if you can focus on
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Speaker 1: something that's a natural browse. Right now, it's coming like
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Speaker 1: the deer, rapid moving. But still haven't gone back to
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Speaker 1: that big egg quite yet. Man, I'll tell you what
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Speaker 1: I am being tempted. I'm being so tempted to hunt
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Speaker 1: the Holy Field property with this weather right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: the activity around us in Michigan has been really good.
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Speaker 1: I guess skipping ahead of a little bit to my
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Speaker 1: report if you don't mind. Um here in Michigan it's
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Speaker 1: been pretty darn good for most people. And um, you know,
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Speaker 1: it looks really great the next few days to really
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Speaker 1: really high pressure and cold temperatures, you know, ten or
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Speaker 1: more degrees below average for this time of year. Very
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Speaker 1: high pressure days coming up here like tomorrow. I think
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be lights out, um, and moving into the
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Speaker 1: weekend still too. And I one was this, This would
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Speaker 1: have been Friday night. Our buddy Andy May, who either
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Speaker 1: you've met or at least you've you've you've heard on
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Speaker 1: the podcast. Probably my buddy Andy May. He shot just
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Speaker 1: a mega Michigan buck um on that second day of
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Speaker 1: the cold front. And then over the weekend I think
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Speaker 1: it was Sunday. Another one of my friends who's also
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Speaker 1: my taxidermist, he shot a huge eight pointer again on
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Speaker 1: one of these couple of days after the cold front. UM.
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Speaker 1: And I've just been seeing, you know, just been seeing
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Speaker 1: lighting up on social media, a lot of deer hit
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Speaker 1: in the ground, a lot of people are seeing great activity. UM.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember which night this was, some night this weekend,
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Speaker 1: maybe Sunday night. UM. I was out watching the holy
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Speaker 1: Field property and I saw a buck I call Survivor.
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Speaker 1: He's this deer that last year was a three and
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Speaker 1: a half year old. And because I was targeting holy Field,
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Speaker 1: I said, all right, this buck is the buck I
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Speaker 1: really want to make it to next year because he'd
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Speaker 1: be awesome to see. He's a four year old. And
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Speaker 1: at that point I was hoping I was going to
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Speaker 1: kill holy Field that year and then Survivor would be
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Speaker 1: the buck I could chase until in eighteen. Um. Well,
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Speaker 1: Survivor didn't make it. He survived seventeen. He's alive now.
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Speaker 1: And last night, whatever night, this was Sunday night or
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Speaker 1: Saturday night or um whichever, that was the first time
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Speaker 1: I saw him moving daylight this year, and that was cool.
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Speaker 1: Got some really good footage of him with the spotting scope.
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Speaker 1: He was feeding in this Brassica and oates food plot
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Speaker 1: that I had planted out there, and he was moving
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Speaker 1: probably minutes before dark, just feeding. He wasn't nosing around
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Speaker 1: doze or anything. He was just hanging out. Um. So
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Speaker 1: that was exciting to see. Now, I don't know sure
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Speaker 1: what I want to do with that deer yet because
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Speaker 1: I'm still holding not hope. You know, that holy Field
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Speaker 1: might be alive. So for now I'm not targeting Survivor.
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Speaker 1: But it was encouraging to see a four and a
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Speaker 1: half year old, Dear. Any other year, probably a four
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Speaker 1: and a half year old will be the best year
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Speaker 1: I have to hunt in Michigan, and I would be
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Speaker 1: getting after I probably would have haunted the next day
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Speaker 1: after him. In that case, but because I'm playing it
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Speaker 1: safe thinking about a whole we feel I haven't done that.
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Speaker 1: But gosh, with this weather, it's very tempting. I've got
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Speaker 1: I've got a really good wind direction to go and
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Speaker 1: hunt that stand where Survivor was a couple of days
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Speaker 1: ago tomorrow thirty point four five, almost thirty point five.
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Speaker 1: As far as barre metric pressure in the forties, which
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Speaker 1: is like ten twelve thirteen degrees blow, I average drowned now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of situation that usually I'd
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Speaker 1: be jumping on. So I'm kind of getting anti panty
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Speaker 1: over here. I don't know what to do. Spencer, Well,
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Speaker 1: I want to reiterate um that this last weekend there
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Speaker 1: were a ton of big deer that hit the ground,
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Speaker 1: and like we talked about in the last week's episode
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Speaker 1: of Radio, people were optimistic, probably the most optimistic episode
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Speaker 1: that we had had yet, so as we expected, you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of deer got shot over the weekend and
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Speaker 1: that was exciting to see. In this week's episode, Um,
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Speaker 1: it may be leveled off a little bit and it
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Speaker 1: is more of the kind of things that you would
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Speaker 1: hear for mid October. It is still largely weather dependent
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Speaker 1: on how confident people are and who we talked to.
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Speaker 1: This week, we have Todd Pregnants from White Knuckle Productions
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Speaker 1: in Iowa, and then Clay Force from Stewart Ranch Outfigures
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Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. That in West Virginia from three or four
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Speaker 1: Outdoors is Trey Kerns, and then from Deer Hunter Podcast
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Speaker 1: in Michigan is Kevin Vistison. Sounds like some good stuff.
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Speaker 1: I'll be interested to hear what whatever one's seeing and thinking.
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Speaker 1: I know, I saw on Facebook that Todd pregnantzas Buddy
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Speaker 1: Tyler killed an absolute jaw dropper in Iowa. Um does
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Speaker 1: he talk about that at all? Uh? He did bring
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Speaker 1: it up. He had, you know, a few takeaways from that.
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Speaker 1: Hunton that was another one of those deer over the
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Speaker 1: weekend that uh, you know, confirmed that what everyone was
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Speaker 1: saying last week on the episode was accurate. There were
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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of white tales killed. So
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Speaker 1: so I think what we have here is a perfect
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Speaker 1: case study of of how accurate helpful radio can be
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Speaker 1: because what everyone was saying last week ended up happening.
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Speaker 1: And if you took advantage of those ideas and thoughts,
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Speaker 1: maybe you had some success to like the folks that
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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear about today. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: tout our own horn here, Spencer, good job to us.
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Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. And one final thing I want
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Speaker 1: to bring up before we get into the interviews is that, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, last year we did kind of a year
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Speaker 1: in review and the subject for October was acorns. Every call,
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Speaker 1: every episode, people were talking about the huge amount of
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Speaker 1: acorns that were in the woods. Well, this year it
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Speaker 1: hasn't been so much about acorns. You know, people have
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Speaker 1: talked about it, but not to the level of sen
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Speaker 1: But but a big theme that you'll hear a lot
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Speaker 1: on this episode about and previous episodes is the rain.
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Speaker 1: Much of the Midwest and the Great Plains has gotten
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Speaker 1: unusual amount of precipitation over these last few weeks, and
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Speaker 1: like where I'm at salth Dakota, for example, we've had
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Speaker 1: some record breaking days for like twenty four our rainfall.
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Speaker 1: And I think that is an important subject for white
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Speaker 1: tail hunting on a number for a number of different reasons. Um.
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Speaker 1: One of them being is just that large amount of
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Speaker 1: standing water. If you hunt someplace that's like a horseshoe
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Speaker 1: and a river. UM. I have a couple of properties
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Speaker 1: like that that I that I like to check out. Um,
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Speaker 1: that almost creates a barrier place where deer would naturally
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Speaker 1: be able to cross in the fall. It's now almost
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Speaker 1: like a high fence that unless they're absolutely forced to
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Speaker 1: cross that river a predator or something, they're just not
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Speaker 1: going to. And so you know, the high water has
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Speaker 1: kind of change, dear movement. I would say. Another thing
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Speaker 1: is with acorns on the ground, if you get a
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Speaker 1: lot of this rain, uh, you know, some standing water,
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Speaker 1: soggy soil can promote fungus growth in the acorns, and
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Speaker 1: that can make acorns rot faster. So you know, we're
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Speaker 1: losing some of those natural food sources. And then the
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Speaker 1: biggest thing I think is that this will definitely slow
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Speaker 1: down harvest. Uh. You know, in my area of South Dakota,
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Speaker 1: it looked like beans we're gonna be out, you know,
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Speaker 1: over ten days ago or so. But we got all
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Speaker 1: this rain and that's going to delay things almost until
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Speaker 1: November possibly, And so the food sources are going to
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Speaker 1: look differently this year than they did last year for sure.
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Speaker 1: And a big part of that is precipitation. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: a great point. I'll add one more thing on precipitation,
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Speaker 1: because every year when we get a spell of a
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Speaker 1: lot of rain, I get all sorts of emails or
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Speaker 1: face what messages saying what do you think about hunting
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Speaker 1: in the rain? Is it a good idea? What's the activity?
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Speaker 1: Like blah blah blah, And so I just want to give,
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Speaker 1: like my thirty second cliff notes thoughts on hunting and precipitation.
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Speaker 1: I tend to like it quite a bit, especially in
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Speaker 1: states like Michigan where there's a lot of hunting pressure.
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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it seems like compared to some other
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Speaker 1: guys that here that hunt, Like like Dan, when he
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Speaker 1: tells me what iowa, He's like, I don't really care
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Speaker 1: for those rainy days. But when I see a rainy
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Speaker 1: day in Michigan, I'm almost always in the tree and
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Speaker 1: those mature bucks that you never see moving in the
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Speaker 1: daylight otherwise, so consistently here in Michigan on those cruddy days,
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Speaker 1: that's like the first time or the only time I
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Speaker 1: see him on their feet. So something to think about. Now,
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Speaker 1: if it's like a torrential hurricane downpour, no, but if
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Speaker 1: it's like a light drizzle, those days can be money
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Speaker 1: or even if you do have a heavy rain, if
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Speaker 1: you're out in the tree stand during that heavy rain
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Speaker 1: and it stops. As soon as it stops, those deer
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Speaker 1: will be on their feet and moving around. You want
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Speaker 1: to be in the tree, then you don't want to
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Speaker 1: be walking in or you don't want to be sitting
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Speaker 1: on your couch because for an hour of the night
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Speaker 1: it was raining. So I'd recommend hunting on those rainy days,
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Speaker 1: but be careful about the implications of that. So obviously,
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Speaker 1: if it's raining a lot, you have concerns around a
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Speaker 1: blood trail, so be really, really careful with your shot selection,
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Speaker 1: be really smart about how you're gonna approach that. And
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Speaker 1: and something I'd highly recommend if you're going to hunt
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Speaker 1: in the rain is trying to make sure that you
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Speaker 1: have or look into options as far as having a
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Speaker 1: tracking dog. We had a situation this past Friday night.
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Speaker 1: My buddy and as I mentioned, shot this buck and
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Speaker 1: it started raining right after he shot the deer, and
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Speaker 1: he was concerned about it washing away the blood. So
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Speaker 1: he gave me a call. And I've got another friend
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Speaker 1: who has a tracking dog who I've had come out
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Speaker 1: and track deer with me, and and I kind of
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Speaker 1: kind of helped train him on some of my deer
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Speaker 1: and he runs him on all sorts of other folks
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Speaker 1: that shoot deer around here. And this dog is great.
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Speaker 1: We went out there there was a lot of rain,
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Speaker 1: really hard to find blood, and probably would have not
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Speaker 1: found blood, maybe wouldn't have found the deer without a
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Speaker 1: ton of grid searching in this area. But because we
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Speaker 1: brought that dog out, within less than ten minutes of
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Speaker 1: getting out there, we were at Andy's deer, which was
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Speaker 1: more than two yards away probably from where he shot,
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Speaker 1: in very very thick like crp grass like you would
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Speaker 1: have never seen this thing. Probably that dog got right
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Speaker 1: on it, even though the rain had washed almost everything away.
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Speaker 1: These dogs can get on that smell. So that's something
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Speaker 1: to think about if you are going to hunt in rain.
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Speaker 1: Blood trailing can be more difficult, So make sure you've
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Speaker 1: got a dog handy if possible, that can make sure
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Speaker 1: that you know, of course, you gotta really prior ties
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Speaker 1: and make sure you can recover that deer, and um,
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Speaker 1: having a tracking dog is is a great way to
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Speaker 1: ensure that. Yeah, man, all great points, but Mark I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna cut us off. We have blown way past our
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Speaker 1: normal five minute conversation, so let's get to our first color.
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Speaker 1: Here's your heart beating really fast? Is your stomach grumbling?
15:16
Speaker 1: Are you uncomfortable that I'm making this go so long
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Speaker 1: that we are beyond the thirty minute episode? So let's
15:22
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Speaker 1: O N alright, and joining me on the line first
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Speaker 1: is Todd pregnants from White Knuckle Productions in Iowa, not
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Speaker 1: Todd in Iowa. What would you say the bucket activity
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Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten.
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Speaker 1: On a scale of one ten, probably about a two
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Speaker 1: or three. In the last two weeks, it's been pretty slow. UM,
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Speaker 1: what we basically do this time of years, watched the
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Speaker 1: weather fronts and yesterday was the first real kill date
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Speaker 1: that we've seen here in Iowa. And actually one of
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Speaker 1: my good buddies uh knocked down a big, big buck
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Speaker 1: last night, And just through the community and group of
17:30
Speaker 1: guys that um I hang out with, everybody has been
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Speaker 1: kind of saying the same thing on their trail cameras
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Speaker 1: that bucks have just disappeared the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think it has anything to do with
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Speaker 1: hunting pressure. I think it has more do more with
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Speaker 1: food sources. Uh. They have been on the acorns hot
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Speaker 1: and heavy, and a combination of that with a lot
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Speaker 1: of standing crops. Still not a lot of farmers have
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Speaker 1: gotten their their food out just because the weather has
17:52
Speaker 1: been so wet down here, So I think a combination
17:55
Speaker 1: of servile factors have really restricted the movement. But boy,
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Speaker 1: when you get that one cold front coming like we
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Speaker 1: did yesterday, it absolutely changed everything. And of course my
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Speaker 1: buddy got a crack at one of these bucks that
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Speaker 1: hadn't shown up on a camera a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: So this is the time here you really got to
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Speaker 1: watch the weather. Are there any takeaways that you had
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Speaker 1: from your buddy getting that big buck on the ground. Yeah? Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: It was actually kind of an interesting UM when when
18:21
Speaker 1: he was. When he finished gutting the deer, I asked him,
18:24
Speaker 1: let's cut off the stuffic, I want to see what's
18:26
Speaker 1: what this buck has been feeding on. And it was
18:28
Speaker 1: a big dandy buck, and um, it was very interesting.
18:31
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating to see what these animals eat.
18:34
Speaker 1: But the one thing that really was a surprise to
18:37
Speaker 1: me was there was quite a few acorns inside of
18:40
Speaker 1: its belly that literally hadn't been chewed. He was swallowing
18:43
Speaker 1: the thing's hole, which I honestly didn't know white deal
18:46
Speaker 1: did I've I've watched so many deer over the years
18:48
Speaker 1: sit and crunch on acorns, and you find it amazing
18:51
Speaker 1: that they can get the nuts out of the shells.
18:54
Speaker 1: But this sucker head all sorts of big acorns inside
18:57
Speaker 1: of its belly, as well as tuns and into green brows,
19:00
Speaker 1: which is very normal. Usually the belly contents are at
19:04
Speaker 1: least thirty green brows. And then he also had quite
19:08
Speaker 1: a few corn colonels in there as well, so can
19:10
Speaker 1: I have a mix of variety of different foods. But
19:12
Speaker 1: but that weatherfront really really put everything on their feet.
19:16
Speaker 1: I was out hunting and filming with a different front
19:18
Speaker 1: of mine. We saw some nice dear moving last night,
19:21
Speaker 1: but before yesterday it was almost like a week of
19:24
Speaker 1: just not even worth going out. We're recording this on October,
19:28
Speaker 1: and you said you suspect the buck movement is at
19:30
Speaker 1: two or three right now. Um on year's past in
19:34
Speaker 1: mid October, is it typically that poor in your area? Yes, generally,
19:40
Speaker 1: And each year's front based on when they get the
19:42
Speaker 1: crops out. Some years the crops are all out by now.
19:45
Speaker 1: Other years that send them into November. But usually we
19:49
Speaker 1: hunt the front um. And I'm just looking at like
19:51
Speaker 1: the next five days, for example, and they're pretty mild
19:55
Speaker 1: temperatures fifty four sixty and six before. So my five
20:01
Speaker 1: day goal, I would hunt that one afternoon Thursday, which
20:05
Speaker 1: is October eighteen. There's going to be a small front
20:08
Speaker 1: coming in and it's not it's not a significant front,
20:12
Speaker 1: but that would be a spot eyed move into one
20:14
Speaker 1: of my easy to access areas, possibly a green food
20:17
Speaker 1: plot or a field edge. And that's the type of
20:20
Speaker 1: hunting I'm doing this time of year. I just I
20:22
Speaker 1: don't want to get into my my betting areas or
20:25
Speaker 1: any of my thick cover because it's just too early
20:28
Speaker 1: to generally catch those big ones moving much so with
20:31
Speaker 1: all that standing cornette and other crops available, do you
20:35
Speaker 1: suspect a lot of bucks have not fully transitioned to
20:38
Speaker 1: their fall range? Then, Uh, like a lot of the
20:40
Speaker 1: deer that you're going to be targeting come November, are
20:43
Speaker 1: they betting and feeding in the areas that they will
20:46
Speaker 1: be a few weeks from now? Um, some will just
20:51
Speaker 1: start moving in now. And last year, for example, I
20:54
Speaker 1: killed a beautiful but a one ninety class typical ten
20:58
Speaker 1: and I never had a single trail camera picture of
21:01
Speaker 1: that book until October. It was the fourteenth or sixte um.
21:05
Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, in the last twenty four hours,
21:07
Speaker 1: I've gotten a bunch of texts from bodies who literally said, man,
21:10
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, deer just starting to show up again.
21:12
Speaker 1: But there is people call it the October law. The
21:15
Speaker 1: deer are always moving around. But the hard part is
21:18
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys, myself included, access on farms
21:22
Speaker 1: is dramatically reduced when all these staying crops are out.
21:26
Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't get into the areas unless
21:28
Speaker 1: you're going along the field I does, um, and certain
21:31
Speaker 1: cases you just can't get into certain areas and So
21:34
Speaker 1: for my my situation, my experience, what I've seen over
21:37
Speaker 1: the years, this is the time of year where I
21:40
Speaker 1: like to be patient, watch my cameras and let the
21:42
Speaker 1: cameras dictate my next move, because there's been years passed
21:46
Speaker 1: where I was hunting a big eight year old four
21:49
Speaker 1: or five years ago, and all of a sudden on
21:52
Speaker 1: October one, I got pictures of him. He had moved
21:55
Speaker 1: into the area, and I went right after him. I didn't.
21:59
Speaker 1: I didn't end up feeling the season. But I really
22:02
Speaker 1: do trust material games, and that's the one thing we
22:05
Speaker 1: do have going for us today that we you know,
22:08
Speaker 1: before you really had to hunt in order to get
22:11
Speaker 1: that intel, but now all the cameras just help you
22:13
Speaker 1: so much. I try to be very patient this time
22:16
Speaker 1: of year because I think more often than not, guys
22:18
Speaker 1: ruling their opportunities for later in the season this time
22:21
Speaker 1: of year because they're just they just want to get
22:23
Speaker 1: out in a tree. You know, there's a dying hunt.
22:26
Speaker 1: The expect in mid October like this that the woods
22:28
Speaker 1: would be lit up with signmaking right now? Is that
22:30
Speaker 1: something that you're seeing in Iowa? Um, a little bit.
22:34
Speaker 1: But again I'm not getting into my my deep, deep
22:37
Speaker 1: dark secret areas not until round Halloween and then obviously
22:42
Speaker 1: in November, but anywhere near a buck's core area will
22:47
Speaker 1: be torn up. Right now. They're starting to get build
22:50
Speaker 1: up their neck muscles, their testosterones growing by the day,
22:53
Speaker 1: and they're getting more and more riled up. So this
22:56
Speaker 1: is definitely an area or a time of year where
22:58
Speaker 1: if you if you are in the timber and come
23:01
Speaker 1: across a lot of concentrated sign and aggressive sign, set
23:05
Speaker 1: up your stand right now, like that is the best
23:09
Speaker 1: indicator that he is very close by, because if they're
23:11
Speaker 1: just not moving very far, but they do move every day,
23:14
Speaker 1: I mean they're up feeding, doing their thing. It's just
23:16
Speaker 1: a smaller, smaller area than when the rod hits. Then
23:19
Speaker 1: they're they're generally just putting on more miles looking for
23:22
Speaker 1: those But most of the bucks here in my local area,
23:25
Speaker 1: I hunt in the dobetting areas and most of the
23:29
Speaker 1: big dominant box they don't even show up and start
23:32
Speaker 1: hanging out in those areas until right about Halloween. I
23:35
Speaker 1: mean they have they know when the dough is coming
23:37
Speaker 1: to heat. They don't waste any time energy um out
23:40
Speaker 1: chasing them around, grunting and doing the things that immature
23:43
Speaker 1: bucks do until they know that the dos are getting
23:46
Speaker 1: very very close going forward, then it next week or still,
23:49
Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to
23:51
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to edit, Iowa probably
23:55
Speaker 1: a five. Um, I would just be looking at the
23:57
Speaker 1: front I I would honestly be hunting the fronts. And
24:00
Speaker 1: based on trail camera pictures, um your buck activity. The
24:05
Speaker 1: younger bocks will start becoming more and more active daily,
24:08
Speaker 1: basically the two, three, four five year old animals. But
24:12
Speaker 1: the big domino box that I'm chasing, the old ones,
24:15
Speaker 1: they just don't move that much until very very close
24:17
Speaker 1: to the route. And my role of thumb is really Halloween.
24:20
Speaker 1: The thirty one of October is really when things start
24:23
Speaker 1: to magically change in the in the big dominant deer.
24:27
Speaker 1: But um, this is the time here, I think again,
24:29
Speaker 1: You've gotta hunt smart and plan for later in October. Unluss,
24:34
Speaker 1: You're You're trail cameras are talent? You different? And I
24:38
Speaker 1: really do That's pretty much the maker break this time
24:40
Speaker 1: of year is if if deer showing up on trail
24:42
Speaker 1: cameras during daylight or just after dark, because then that
24:47
Speaker 1: gives you a very good idea where they're where they're
24:49
Speaker 1: batted based on the time of pictures that you're getting
24:52
Speaker 1: up these dare we thought it seems like every season
24:54
Speaker 1: you kill a giant buck. I'm sure this year will
24:56
Speaker 1: be no different. So good luck this here and thanks
24:59
Speaker 1: for joining me. Well, thank you very much, appreciate the opportunity,
25:02
Speaker 1: and I just want to wish everybody out there the
25:05
Speaker 1: bust of locking. Where are your harness use lifelines and
25:08
Speaker 1: be safe out there guys, all right, and joining me
25:11
Speaker 1: on the line next is Clay Force from Stewart Ranch
25:14
Speaker 1: Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, Clay in Oklahoma, what would you
25:18
Speaker 1: say the bucket activities been lately on the skill of
25:20
Speaker 1: one to ten uh, from what I've been seeing based
25:24
Speaker 1: on camera and based on just getting around buck activities high. Um,
25:29
Speaker 1: I think i'd probably put it around a six to
25:32
Speaker 1: a seven right now. Is that typical for mid October
25:37
Speaker 1: for you guys to have around a six or seven
25:39
Speaker 1: for buck movement? Um? Honestly, no, I think typically it's
25:43
Speaker 1: a little less than that. We're having some at least
25:46
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma standards, extreme weather shift. We're in the mid
25:51
Speaker 1: forties right now, and I think that's kind of attributing
25:54
Speaker 1: to bucks being on their feet a little more. Typically
25:57
Speaker 1: it's still highs in the up seventies, low eighties kind
26:01
Speaker 1: of thing, and so typically this is kind of that
26:03
Speaker 1: October lull, uh so to speak time of time frame.
26:07
Speaker 1: So I think with this weather, the rain that we've
26:10
Speaker 1: been having, crops are up a little more than typically
26:13
Speaker 1: they usually are this time of year. I think that's
26:15
Speaker 1: kind of all attributing to a higher buck activity for
26:18
Speaker 1: this year. The story in much of the Midwestern Great
26:21
Speaker 1: Plains has been rain over these last few weeks. Is
26:23
Speaker 1: that something that's affected you guys in Oklahoma as well? Yes, sir, Yeah,
26:28
Speaker 1: we've had, uh, depending on where you're at on the ranch,
26:31
Speaker 1: somewhere between fourteen and about eighteen inches in rain in
26:34
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Um. I don't think it's affected
26:37
Speaker 1: the deer uh negatively, um or at least what I've
26:40
Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of our creature up and just
26:43
Speaker 1: as far as us getting around and check things, it's
26:46
Speaker 1: affected that. But as far as deer movement and dear
26:49
Speaker 1: being out and about, um, I don't think it's affected
26:51
Speaker 1: it negatively in any in the aspect. Right now, What
26:55
Speaker 1: are you seeing for signmaking in the woods. I think
26:58
Speaker 1: I think bucks are hits about five fifty here on
27:00
Speaker 1: the ranch right now. I'm still seeing dear bachelord up,
27:04
Speaker 1: still moving in groups, but I'm also seeing dear her
27:07
Speaker 1: groups starting to break up a lot more scrape activity
27:10
Speaker 1: and starting that seeking phase a little bit um as
27:15
Speaker 1: far as this time of year, So I think for
27:19
Speaker 1: right now we're about a fifty fifty split and the
27:21
Speaker 1: weather is supposed to stay consistent. So I see bucks
27:24
Speaker 1: really starting to hit scrapes, really starting to start moving
27:27
Speaker 1: toward that rut time frame, uh here in the next
27:32
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, which should really shape up pretty well
27:34
Speaker 1: because we've got muzzleloader season coming up here in about
27:36
Speaker 1: a week and uh so it really should shape up
27:39
Speaker 1: for a good season for us with that Muzzlelottle opener
27:42
Speaker 1: happening at the end of October. What are the conditions
27:45
Speaker 1: that would be ideal for you when it comes to
27:47
Speaker 1: weather or moon phases or crop status? Uh? Right now,
27:52
Speaker 1: if we could keep this consistent weather pattern where our
27:55
Speaker 1: highs are in the mid sixties, lows are in that
27:58
Speaker 1: mid up or forties, low fifties. Uh and if I
28:02
Speaker 1: haven't checked the moon to face calendar or anything. But
28:04
Speaker 1: if we could get that rising moon late in the afternoon,
28:06
Speaker 1: it would be about as prime conditions as we've had
28:10
Speaker 1: for muzzloader opener in the last probably two to three years.
28:14
Speaker 1: Weather it seems like the last couple of years we
28:16
Speaker 1: still have had highs in the eighties and uh we've
28:19
Speaker 1: had some success, but I'm really optimistic on this year
28:22
Speaker 1: just do with the weather the way it's playing into
28:26
Speaker 1: this opener, I think we should have a high success
28:29
Speaker 1: rate with our hunters coming in and around that muzzleloader opener.
28:32
Speaker 1: Would you be using any calling techniques rattling, grunting, snorwheeze,
28:36
Speaker 1: is anything like that? Yes? Or our deer tend to
28:40
Speaker 1: tend to be a little more vocal or at least
28:43
Speaker 1: from what I've been seeing on the ranch. And I
28:47
Speaker 1: always recommend our guys to bring a drunk to bring
28:51
Speaker 1: their horns. Uh, it can't hurt anything. And I think
28:55
Speaker 1: with these deer starting to break up and starting to
28:58
Speaker 1: kind of established that pay king order, making a grunt
29:02
Speaker 1: or hitting the horns is always beneficial b our hunters
29:06
Speaker 1: going forward. Thenis next week or so, what do you
29:08
Speaker 1: think that bucket activty is going to be on a
29:10
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Oklahoma. Um, I would
29:13
Speaker 1: keep it around that seven mark. Um. I don't want
29:15
Speaker 1: to go too much higher than that. I think with
29:17
Speaker 1: the weather, I think with everything kind of shaping up
29:20
Speaker 1: with a kind of a pre a little bit of
29:23
Speaker 1: a pre rut seeking checking scrape phase, I think seven
29:26
Speaker 1: is a pretty solid number for the next week or
29:29
Speaker 1: so in Oklahoma. Alright, Clay, Well, good luck to you
29:31
Speaker 1: and your hunters in camp. Thanks for joining me alright.
29:34
Speaker 1: Appreciate Spencer alright and joining me on the line. Next
29:38
Speaker 1: is Trey Currents from three or four Outdoors in West
29:41
Speaker 1: Virginia now trade in West Virginia. What would you say
29:44
Speaker 1: the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of
29:46
Speaker 1: one to ten, I'll say the buck activities been around
29:50
Speaker 1: a four or five spencer. It's uh, you know, it's
29:54
Speaker 1: not been, you know, super shut down. But um, I've
29:57
Speaker 1: seen a lot of smaller bucks maybe around the area,
30:00
Speaker 1: and I feel like a lot of those bigger bucks
30:03
Speaker 1: have really been keaning on scrape activity. Um, but a
30:08
Speaker 1: little bit of pre rud action. I feel like with
30:10
Speaker 1: this cold front coming in and has really been getting
30:12
Speaker 1: the bucks on their feet. Are you seeing a lot
30:14
Speaker 1: of scrapes in the woods end. You mentioned that mature
30:16
Speaker 1: bucks are checking them, but are you finding a lot
30:18
Speaker 1: of signmaking in general? Yeah, Actually, you know, uh, seeing
30:23
Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes pop up um throughout the property
30:28
Speaker 1: that we've been hunting. And then also you know, scrapes
30:31
Speaker 1: that you know have been there since last year are
30:34
Speaker 1: really starting to heat up right now, and uh, definitely
30:37
Speaker 1: starting to keen on those and move some trail cameras
30:39
Speaker 1: around to try to locate where these big bucks are
30:41
Speaker 1: hitting those in the daylight hours. It seems like a
30:44
Speaker 1: lot of hunters in your area are focused on acorns
30:47
Speaker 1: right now. How about you, guys at three or four outdoors,
30:49
Speaker 1: what food sources are you interested in this time of year? Yeah,
30:53
Speaker 1: definitely definitely acorns right now. Um, we try to establish
31:00
Speaker 1: um acorns have an overlying factor on our deer movement,
31:05
Speaker 1: and we've had a huge mass production this year, so
31:08
Speaker 1: I feel like that's you know, definitely a good spot
31:11
Speaker 1: to see you know a lot of deer um throughout
31:14
Speaker 1: the day whenever you're sitting, So there's never you know,
31:16
Speaker 1: there's never a bad option of you know, going and
31:18
Speaker 1: sitting on an acorn flat throughout the day. How about
31:21
Speaker 1: as we get into November, or is your focus for
31:24
Speaker 1: food sources going to be the same and staying with
31:27
Speaker 1: acorns and we start looking to something else. No, I
31:30
Speaker 1: wouldn't say staying for acorns. I think, you know, first
31:33
Speaker 1: in November, UM, a lot of our properties and properties
31:37
Speaker 1: that I hunt, my dear start to transition um into
31:40
Speaker 1: the you know, thicker cover um and then definitely start
31:44
Speaker 1: hitting uh some green forge. As far as you know,
31:47
Speaker 1: our fall plots that we've we've had established the turn ups,
31:51
Speaker 1: winter week, et cetera. And UM, I really feel like
31:54
Speaker 1: you know, deer masure deer um you know, three or
31:58
Speaker 1: four or five year old deer or really they starting
32:00
Speaker 1: to get on their feet as far as you know,
32:02
Speaker 1: pushing those around, and I feel like a food source
32:06
Speaker 1: you know is good for those. But as far as
32:08
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, trying to hold those deer down,
32:11
Speaker 1: I think these deer are really starting to target think
32:13
Speaker 1: it's come come in first November and really start to
32:16
Speaker 1: pending these deer down within that area. And that's where
32:19
Speaker 1: we see a lot of the movement UM in our
32:21
Speaker 1: area around the first November. Some of the hunters though
32:25
Speaker 1: with three or four Outdoors have found some success here
32:28
Speaker 1: in mid October. What have those setups been like? Yeah,
32:32
Speaker 1: those um, those successful setups that we've had thus far.
32:36
Speaker 1: Um in the month of October, it's you know, it's
32:38
Speaker 1: always a slow month for us around this area. But UM,
32:42
Speaker 1: we've mainly just been focusing on getting as close as
32:45
Speaker 1: possible to those betting areas that we believe that these
32:48
Speaker 1: deer betting areas um that they're you know, betting in,
32:53
Speaker 1: and then moving towards those foot sources right at last light.
32:56
Speaker 1: And that's where we've had our success this year, is
32:58
Speaker 1: in the evenings and having those big bucks that are
33:01
Speaker 1: mature moving from those betting areas right at last like
33:04
Speaker 1: to those food sources. And I think that's that's where
33:07
Speaker 1: we've really made our money this year so far. How
33:10
Speaker 1: about calling if you started hitting the rattling antlers together
33:13
Speaker 1: yet or you carry your dune tube with I. I've
33:16
Speaker 1: carried my stuff with me. I have not hitting anything yet.
33:20
Speaker 1: My cameras are starting to show some buck activity as
33:23
Speaker 1: far as you know, starting to fight in some pictures
33:26
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but I I haven't yet, just
33:29
Speaker 1: based on I just feel like personally in my area.
33:32
Speaker 1: It's it's not you know, really keen knowing right now,
33:35
Speaker 1: but I can definitely see that with this, you know,
33:37
Speaker 1: the quarter weather coming in and then you know, the
33:39
Speaker 1: next week or so really starting to maybe get some
33:42
Speaker 1: light running in and hitting the rattling horns. But you know,
33:46
Speaker 1: anything you know is capable of happening in the next
33:49
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and deer really start to start getting
33:52
Speaker 1: on fire. So going forward, then, in this next week
33:55
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is
33:56
Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to tend
33:58
Speaker 1: in West Virginia And the next week or so I
34:01
Speaker 1: look forward to definitely be probably around a seven UM
34:04
Speaker 1: in West Virginia as far as really heating up um.
34:08
Speaker 1: And then you know, I think you're really going to
34:12
Speaker 1: start to see some mature deer start to get on
34:14
Speaker 1: their feet towards the end of the month. Alright, J Well,
34:16
Speaker 1: good luck to you and the other hunters at three
34:18
Speaker 1: or four Outdoors. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate Spencer.
34:21
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting hold of me alright and joining us
34:24
Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Kevin Vistison from Deer Hunter
34:27
Speaker 1: Podcast in Michigan. Now, Kevin in Michigan, what would you
34:30
Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been lately on a skill
34:33
Speaker 1: of one to ten one turn, I'm going to go
34:37
Speaker 1: right down the middle and go five. This week might
34:41
Speaker 1: be one of the more difficult weeks of hunting that will,
34:46
Speaker 1: you know, that will encounter all season. Essentially, the deer
34:50
Speaker 1: are out of their summer patterns and they're just settling in.
34:57
Speaker 1: You know, those new small game hunters have been in
34:59
Speaker 1: the woods now for a couple of weeks as well
35:01
Speaker 1: as archery, and the deer starting to get bumped around.
35:06
Speaker 1: They're out of their summer patterns. They're starting to move
35:09
Speaker 1: into the rut phase. They will, you know, probably not
35:15
Speaker 1: do a lot of daylight moving um here in the
35:18
Speaker 1: next week or to until the rut you know, starts
35:24
Speaker 1: going in, some ghosts start coming into astros and uh,
35:27
Speaker 1: then I think people will be able to start capitalizing
35:30
Speaker 1: on some some daylight movement. Now. I know you've been
35:33
Speaker 1: hunting northern Michigan as well as Southern Michigan lately. How
35:37
Speaker 1: those two areas been different for you when it comes
35:40
Speaker 1: to seeing buck movement or what do you think the
35:42
Speaker 1: rut stages in those areas. I think the biggest thing
35:46
Speaker 1: is the food sources Southern Michigan. I mean the food
35:49
Speaker 1: sources are similar, but Northern Michigan they're just stretched out
35:54
Speaker 1: over a larger area. And obviously all properties are vastly different,
36:01
Speaker 1: and that has to be taken an account. A piece
36:03
Speaker 1: of managed land with food pots is going to hunt
36:06
Speaker 1: a lot different than a UM state forests that you're
36:10
Speaker 1: competing with pressure and other hunters. But oaks a ton
36:16
Speaker 1: of acorns on the ground this season, more than I
36:18
Speaker 1: remember seeing UM in any recent history. UM clear cuts
36:25
Speaker 1: that were done in this past winter or this early
36:31
Speaker 1: spring I've noticed are still green and holding leaves, whereas
36:36
Speaker 1: clear cuts that are two or three or you know
36:40
Speaker 1: more years older, the leaves have already begin to go
36:44
Speaker 1: yellow brown and in some instance has fallen off. So
36:48
Speaker 1: those clear cuts that were done this previous season definitely
36:52
Speaker 1: have increased the deer activity, where those older cuts the
36:56
Speaker 1: deer off of them, and they're already they're on acorns
36:59
Speaker 1: and other brows versus. Down here in southern Michigan, the
37:05
Speaker 1: food sources can be UM still just a lot of
37:09
Speaker 1: stuff is green their natural forage as well as you know,
37:13
Speaker 1: any food plots that were done for fall hunting, are
37:18
Speaker 1: you know as good as they're going to get really
37:20
Speaker 1: all season. And the deer on those um, they're tearing
37:23
Speaker 1: the corn uh down that's not picked yet, and then
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Speaker 1: the stuff that has picked there in those fields at
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Speaker 1: night uh on on the stuff that was left over
37:32
Speaker 1: from the combine. Are you finding a lot of signmaking
37:35
Speaker 1: in the woods right now as far as rubs and scrapes, skill, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: scrapes are. I mean every day now they're popping up
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Speaker 1: more and more. I checked some trail cameras this morning,
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Speaker 1: and just en route to two cameras, I think I
37:51
Speaker 1: came across six scrapes. And we had some rain and
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Speaker 1: wind here yesterday, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if
37:58
Speaker 1: you know you and all six of them were done
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Speaker 1: just last night. We've had cold temperatures, um a lot
38:05
Speaker 1: believes are starting to fall. I'm having had the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to put these SD cards in and look at them yet,
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Speaker 1: but I assume that I'm going to see increased activity.
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Speaker 1: And I know, just going off the number of photos
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Speaker 1: that were on the cards that you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: a sizeable more amount than the last time I pulled
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Speaker 1: cards back in beginning of September, So now you probably
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Speaker 1: have some of the more pressure deer in the country
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Speaker 1: there in Michigan. What are your calling strategies when it
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Speaker 1: comes to this time of year, as we even get
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Speaker 1: into the rut? Will you call it to those books
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Speaker 1: or do you find that typically has a negative reaction
38:45
Speaker 1: uh rattling to start wheezing, the real aggressive loud calling. Um.
38:52
Speaker 1: All that I've ever seen happen from that is dear,
38:56
Speaker 1: run the opposite direction. But if you can, and uh,
39:01
Speaker 1: I spend a lot of time in the woods, so
39:04
Speaker 1: I hear a lot of deer grunting. And I'll say,
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Speaker 1: even from northern Michigan to southern Michigan, the way the
39:10
Speaker 1: deer talk to each other sounds just a little bit different.
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Speaker 1: And if you can identify that one way. I do
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Speaker 1: this as I run drill cameras on video mode, so
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Speaker 1: with sounds, so I actually get a lot of data
39:23
Speaker 1: of deer talking to each other, and through a couple
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Speaker 1: of different calls that I use, I'm able to mimic
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Speaker 1: that fairly well. And I'll just use real subtle recreations
39:37
Speaker 1: of the sounds that I hear. Of these books essentially
39:41
Speaker 1: when they are you know, in pursuit of a dough
39:44
Speaker 1: whether you know, I guess I'll identify it as attending grunt,
39:49
Speaker 1: some just short, uh subtle grunts when a buck is
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Speaker 1: in pursuit of a doe. And I've had great success
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Speaker 1: with that for the course of the last ten years.
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Speaker 1: I've probably killed the half dozen bucks in that manner
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Speaker 1: by replicating that sound and actually you know, bringing even
40:12
Speaker 1: blind calling, uh, just having deer come in to investigate.
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Speaker 1: And I've passed a lot of year and a half
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Speaker 1: old bucks doing that. But every now and then a
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Speaker 1: nice two and a half year old or three and
40:25
Speaker 1: a half will come in to investigate, and that's been
40:28
Speaker 1: a a great Um, that's the only way I've ever
40:33
Speaker 1: been effective to call and kill dear year in my state.
40:37
Speaker 1: Going forward, Then, in the sixt week or so, what
40:39
Speaker 1: do you think that bucket activity is going to be
40:41
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Michigan? I
40:44
Speaker 1: would say that it's going to start to increase, provided
40:47
Speaker 1: that people are conscious of how intrusive they're being with
40:52
Speaker 1: their properties and the places they hunt. Um, these deer
40:55
Speaker 1: are moving at night every night right now, So if
40:58
Speaker 1: you're don't allow them to pattern you before you patterned
41:04
Speaker 1: them and they do that pretty quickly. If you go
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Speaker 1: to a tree stand one or two times, I'm pretty
41:09
Speaker 1: confident that those deer will come across that scent and
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Speaker 1: they will. I d where you are, Um, you have
41:14
Speaker 1: to be on your toes, um. And if you're doing that,
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Speaker 1: if you're not letting them get ahead of you, and
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Speaker 1: you're staying ahead of them, then I would say over
41:23
Speaker 1: the course of the next week, things are gonna you know,
41:27
Speaker 1: increase where we'll be getting into the sixes and the
41:30
Speaker 1: sevens and by Halloween. Um, you know, from Halloween to
41:35
Speaker 1: essentially November. Um, you know that whole beginning, latter part
41:42
Speaker 1: of November is is just gold. So all right, Kevin,
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Speaker 1: good luck in Michigan, and thank you for joining me.
41:49
Speaker 1: Thanks Spencer, and that concludes this week's episode of Wired
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Speaker 1: to Hunt's Radio. Thank you to Todd, Clay, Trey and
41:57
Speaker 1: Kevin for joining me, and thank you guys for listening.
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Speaker 1: The next time I talked to you, guys, we are
42:14
Speaker 1: going to be in the October twenties, and I'm really
42:16
Speaker 1: excited to finally get some reports where people are talking
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Speaker 1: about seeking and chasing and pre ruts and just anything
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Speaker 1: that has the word rut involved, because we're pulling up