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147 - Ally & Brett Rossell - Discipline + Consistency = Confidence · Getting After It

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone back to another episode of getting after it.
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  Speaker 1: I am Allie Russell.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Brett Russell and, just as it sounds, we like to get after it.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good, not bad that's how we start siblings in crime.
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  Speaker 1: My brother and mine podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But if you like true crime, go check it out.
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  Speaker 2: It's good stories, fun stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We're true crime.
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  Speaker 1: We come out Wednesdays, however, we're on getting after it and I'm with my husband, so we decided to kind of switch it up this week.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me your idea.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's literally was two seconds ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like you know it a whirl.
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  Speaker 1: Let me interview you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what we can do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea where this is going to go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of questions you're going to ask me.
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  Speaker 1: Possibilities are endless.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where this is going to go, but I thought it might be fun for your audience to hear from the host himself what Getting, getting after it is, and we'll kind of roll from there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, brett.
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  Speaker 1: So you ask everyone in your podcast at the very end, what it means to getting after it for them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So let's kick it off with that.
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  Speaker 1: What about for you, the host?
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot behind it, but I think, for simplicity purposes, the thing that I always think about when I'm considering getting after it in every area of life is just, it's a commitment to strive to always be your best and to always improve.
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  Speaker 2: Um, because, like, if you think about it, like, there's a lot of people out there who they can't run.
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  Speaker 2: So if they say, oh yeah, I'm getting after it, and the definition of getting after it's running, a lot of people aren't going to be getting after it.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They could, you know, might be medical issues or they just can't do it, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So I honestly, I think that's probably it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just, it's a commitment to yourself that you will improve and stay the long haul, because getting after it I always say it's like a lifestyle, it's a journey, and there's going to be times when you feel really motivated to get after it and you're feeling really good, you're excited about whatever's in front of you.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: And then there's going to be times when life hits and you have to still balance.
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  Speaker 2: You know your passions or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: You have to still balance.
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  Speaker 2: You know your passions or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: You have to still focus on getting better in whatever area you committed to, while still maintaining your responsibilities, like if you're getting after it and that's your whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to be the best fitness person, whatever and you're a dad, but you put your priorities over your children in order to get after it, I don't think you're getting after it.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a selective thing to get after.
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  Speaker 2: If that makes sense, that is showing action in one area in your life but you're neglecting other pieces, and so getting after it to me means that it's everything that you do.
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  Speaker 1: I see.
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying if you want to be the best runner and you also are a dad, you have a job, you have all this other stuff, but your whole priority is on becoming a runner.
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  Speaker 1: Where the other areas are neglected, then that's not getting after it.
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  Speaker 1: That's progressing in one area, but getting after it to you means you're striving in every area to become the best, whatever that looks like yeah, yeah, 100, it's like I said it again dang it 100 I know I'm trying to work on that.
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: I don't mind, I just like to tease, yeah well, if you notice, the audience does too.
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  Speaker 2: So I apologize because I say that too much, but yeah, I mean it's like, are you really getting after?
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  Speaker 2: And mean it's like, are you really getting after it, and to me it's much more impressive.
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  Speaker 2: You take someone like Drew, who's a dad, who has a job, who also runs and does all these things.
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to be the best runner in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, drew, you won't be.
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  Speaker 2: I won't be the best runner in the world Because it's like we are regular, everyday people who try and strive to do our best in those areas.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: We are regular, everyday people who try and strive to do our best in those areas.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't compare someone who literally, that's their job is to train and to work out and to like the Olympians.
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  Speaker 2: That's all they do, and they have the best protocols, all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So they're obviously going to be much better, but that's like their life, that's what they want to do.
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  Speaker 2: And so you take someone who has other responsibilities and still balances, like okay, well, how can I be the best dad?
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  Speaker 2: How can I be the best at work?
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  Speaker 2: How can I be the best spouse?
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  Speaker 2: How can I still work out and achieve my goals in fitness.
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  Speaker 2: That's much more impressive to me than it would be if someone was just like I'm going to be the best runner and that's all they did.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's much more difficult to be able to strive to be your best in those areas, to get 1% better each day while still achieving your goals.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard.
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  Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this I know you have talked about and you and I talk about often comparing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You've talked about Truett hands a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I do talk about often comparing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, you've talked about truett haynes a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You talked about a lot of those hopefully, because one in one day we'll hit a run together.
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  Speaker 2: He'll come on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be cool that'd be fun I'll tag him in this truett.
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  Speaker 2: Haynes, please let me run with you I'll run with you, but I think it'd be cool if you came on this podcast yes what do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Nice, we're also in utah I mean we're like down the street.
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  Speaker 1: But the reason I talk about him is, I know, like, as you were just saying, these, some of these athletes, I mean that's they're able to make it their life right.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: They're making money from promoting different companies and sponsors and stuff and so they get to work out all day long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we see truett's pose, which I'm so happy for him.
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  Speaker 1: Great, truett cam, like lucy, all these incredible athletes.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fun to see their stories and it's like their workouts of the day and it was like an eight hour day of their rubs, their sauna, their walk with their dog or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: How do you I don't want to say I'll rephrase it you were just talking about you can't compare yourself to people who are like that's their life.
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  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's tough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say that all those people that you mentioned they've worked unbelievably hard to get to where they're at.
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  Speaker 1: And not to say that they're neglecting other areas of their life, Of course, I mean they can be incredible spouses and stuff like that but it does help when their fitness aligns with their occupation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's really it.
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  Speaker 2: We live in a time where you're able to do that, think that's really it is.
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  Speaker 2: We live in a time where you're able to do that right, like if you are able to get enough people to follow you, to like your stuff, to see your journey, then you can legitimately make money from that, and I feel like that's a pretty good motivator to like, keep doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: So, um one, I think it's amazing that they're able to get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: Um two, you mentioned cam haynes.
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  Speaker 2: You might not even notice about him, so he's like, before an ultra runner, he's a bow hunter, that's his whole thing, and he wants to be ready for the mountains and so like.
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  Speaker 2: He actually worked a full-time job for 25 years and I think like three years ago he finally quit.
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  Speaker 1: Um do we know what he was doing for work?
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  Speaker 2: He was part of like water treatment or something.
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  Speaker 2: He worked, I think, for the city, but yeah, so like.
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  Speaker 2: But he would run and do marathons every day.
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  Speaker 2: I think he would run a half marathon before work and then a half marathon at lunch, like crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's um, and so the reason he's where he's at now is because all the work that's gone into that for years on end has got him to that point.
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  Speaker 2: And so same with truett like he posted something where he ran a half marathon when he was six years old, and I think when I was six years old, eight right maybe he was eight if it was was six.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to cry.
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  Speaker 2: Either way, that's still crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, regardless, that's so young.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and so you said it.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not compare yourself to those people?
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: A couple things, okay.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: So I would say the first thing actually is you should compare yourself to them a little bit, and I'm not saying like compare yourself to their times, compare yourself to anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: You need to compare yourself and be like, okay, well, they obviously were able to achieve something, and I'm a firm believer that if a human has done it before, that means there is a chance that you can do it too.
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Be realistic with your goals.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you want to be in the NBA and you're a five foot five white guy that just decided to play basketball today not very valid.
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  Speaker 2: Like you got to be realistic with your goals but look at them for inspiration, like if, if they true, it's a great example to me.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'll look at him and see, like, what runs he's doing and be like, okay, well, I obviously know how much work goes into saying like, okay, well, I'm going to run a hundred mile race or I'm going to run 250 mile race, and the guy puts in a hundred mile weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And so, like, if I'm thinking about that for myself, I'm like, okay, well, this week I hit 48 miles, so I'd have 62 more to go.
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  Speaker 2: 52 more to go Math is bad, 52 more to go Math is bad.
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  Speaker 2: And so like I wouldn't say like, okay, well, don't compare yourself to them.
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  Speaker 2: If anything, just compare yourself and be like how would I feel if I got to that point and am I willing to even do the work?
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  Speaker 2: Because that's, I think, a question a lot of people don't consider is like you'll see something really cool on social media, you'll see someone starting a business and you'll say, oh, I want to do that too, until you realize how much work has to go into it.
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  Speaker 2: And then you're like man, freaking, true, it he's able to run a hundred miles.
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  Speaker 2: Like that guy sucks.
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  Speaker 2: And then you'll start getting into that mode where it's like you're like, oh I just hate all these people, or whatever.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: You start having a bad mindset about them and so, um, but really to answer your question this is a long winded way to answer it I would just say, simply, understand that you're on your own journey and that it is unique.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: Your journey is unique to you and you get in what you put out or you get out what you put in.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and I mean, genetics also play a huge role.
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  Speaker 2: But, like, I just don't think it's fair to yourself to compare yourself to other people.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you've heard the phrase.
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  Speaker 2: So many people on this podcast have said the phrase comparison is the thief of joy, because I think there's a lot of truth behind that.
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  Speaker 2: If you compare yourself to someone else's journey while you're trying to accomplish your own, go out after whatever goals are in your mind, um, you're not going to be able to enjoy and be present for the times when you actually have some kind of accomplishment that you're proud of.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you go out and you want to run your first half marathon and you're proud because you just hit a seven mile run You've never done that before and you're getting ready for your half marathon and you go on social media and you see Truett, you see Drew, you see yourself anybody like posting.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, hey, I just got done with a training run.
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  Speaker 2: It was 15 miles.
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  Speaker 2: Like that person's going to feel like crap.
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  Speaker 2: But the person who ran seven miles should be proud of what they did because they never done it before.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so I would just say be cautious with comparing yourself on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Understand that your journey is unique and it's not beneficial.
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  Speaker 2: You can draw inspiration from those kind of people, but you shouldn't compare yourself to them.
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  Speaker 1: So what you're saying?
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  Speaker 1: Basically, it's not bad to look at the numbers and understand they're different between other people's runs, your own runs, whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 1: But rather than compare lives and stories, look at those things in order to learn.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say be proud of the effort that you're doing, like if you really gave it your all, if you're really showing up and trying to do your best, that's going to get you a lot further than you know.
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  Speaker 2: Doing something like really hard and then immediately being like, but I'm not the best, like you're not, you're not going to be the best.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people out there who are much better than me at many things that I do At podcasting, at running, fitness-wise, at my job.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people who are better than me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the best, I'm trying to be, but it's difficult and it's a competitive world.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like if I was always thinking about, like man, I'm not the best, I'm not the best, then it's like that triggers a negative thought spiral and you'll start believing it and that's not a good place to be.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Self-talk is huge in that point.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: It's true you have talked a lot about self-talk and not to dive too far into it.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Whatever you're comfortable with All right.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Let's go into that a little bit, because getting after it kind of started, when would you say, not the podcast itself, but your own personal journey?
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  Speaker 2: I would say in college, like that's when I started really diving into some of the teachings of Jocko Willink.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: That sounds like scripture.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: No, but like trying to understand discipline for myself, and I think that's when I really understood, like okay, it really is, you get out what you put in like okay, it really is.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: You get out what you put in what.
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  Speaker 1: How did your lifestyle look different before learning these lessons and then since?
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: then it was a lot less structured.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, um, I was very like, I think, about Spencer on this podcast where he talked about having a to-do list yep and he's like if you don't have one, like you're not really gonna know what to focus your time on that day.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like that was me a lot of one.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Like you're not really going to know what to focus your time on that day.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like that was me A lot of the times, like I didn't really understand, like I knew what needed to get done but I didn't have an order of which I wanted to do it in and I would procrastinate, I would let things like I would do things at the last minute.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: And then I just realized like discipline is a very simple thing to get started at.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy, but like if you just start doing small things to exercise your discipline like for me at that time I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to come home from work and in that hour when I'm home from work is going to be me studying and getting things done for school, and then just like structuring my day that way.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: And then, pretty quick after that, drew and I were like, okay, let's just go to the gym at 5 am every day before we have to go to work, and then we'll go to school and we'll do all that stuff, and it was just like the very most basic way of like I'm going to include discipline in my life, but I need time to do that if that makes sense.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, well, if we're waking up at 4.30 to go to the gym, we're there at 5, then I need to be disciplined to wake up on time so I can go pick up Drew, so we can get to the gym on time, get a workout in before work.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Like you have to have structured time to achieve goals.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe that, like, you need to be able to time block and things like that too, but you also need to have the chance to exercise discipline.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: And so, if that's like I want to start going to the gym more than set a time for you, that's feasible for you to go to the gym and then exercise discipline to get there.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Like that's what it takes, um, but my life was very unstructured and I had goals that I wanted, um, I just didn't know how to put it all together to work towards reaching those goals.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Like, I think it's something everyone has to learn on their own because everyone's different, um, but at least giving yourself a chance to experiment with discipline, experiment with consistency, like figure out where it fits in your life and and where it makes sense that you can stay consistent, because that's the most important part, cause, like a lot of times, you'll see people this is another danger of comparison You'll see people on social media who are like this is my morning routine.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: And because of it I'm super productive yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: Or like this is what I eat every day for my meal prep.
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  Speaker 2: Or I read 50 pages Like and and so like you might think, okay, well, that person's very productive, that person looks really good, they're obviously fit, whatever it is, and you'll say I need to be doing those same exact things.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But in reality it might not work for you because that person built a habit that they can stick to and so you have to learn to do the same for yourself so when you talk about non-structural, structured life and then you learn about discipline, consistency and you became more structured if someone's listening to this podcast and they're like I want to be more disciplined, I want to be more consistent, it sounds like structure is a tip for that.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you start implementing that in your life?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: it started very small um did you have, like a calendar, a alarm clock for different things like what was your?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: alarm clock um I don't know no, that's good.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: So I mean sometimes, like the very most basic thing I would do is just write out a to-do list every day before bed of what I wanted to do the next day.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Um, and yeah, so it's just preparation and really just like understanding that, and then now I'll plan out my day but also put things in my calendar so I don't miss them.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Um, it's really like I don't know.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I'm very good at forgetting things, and if it's not written down or if it's not somewhere where I see it, I, I will forget about it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Um, so, like, if I'm at the doctor's appointment, you'll be proud of me for this, because I'm very consistent.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Now, um, and they're like okay, well, we'll see you in three months.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I immediately pull out my phone and say, okay, well, how's August 18th?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: whatever, let's do it at this date and then I'll just put it in.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: So it's's like I'm always reminded, because it's easy to let things slip, and I really just started by implementing small things.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Like when I first started going to the gym, I wasn't there for an hour and a half or two hours.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I was there for 30 minutes sometimes, like just to get a lift in, and then Drew and I were off to work with meal prep.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't really know how to cook that well, so I started with just one meal a day and then eventually that led to breakfast, lunch and dinner.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I always had prepped in college and a few years after that I've kind of fallen off because I've learned how to cook now and that's kind of fun.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I like cooking for us.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But that's really it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: It's like starting small and I think the best place that you can see that is in the gym.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Like if you go and you've never lifted before in your life and you want to start doing some bicep curls, you might only be able to do the tens, maybe the fives, I don't know.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the size of your biceps are, but that consistency, that discipline of showing up and lifting and showing up when you're sore, like all these things will lead you to eventually be able to curl 40s like it's nothing.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But that could be years.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: You just don't know what the timeline is.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So that would be.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: My advice is like, if you want to start exercising discipline in some areas of your life, figure out what areas they are if it's fitness, if it's faith, if it's family, if it's your job and then start setting very small, specific goals, like the procrastination podcast that I have written out.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Um, there's one thing in there that I um, I think fuels a lot of procrastination, and it's a lack of clarity or fear of actually doing the thing.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But I think a lack of clarity is what a lot of people run into.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So, for example, me up in college, I obviously knew that I had deadlines for some tasks or anything like that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Um, but like, I was never specific about what I needed to do each day.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And so, like you break it down into smaller chunks and you say, okay, well, today I'm just going to write my thesis statement for this paper.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, write that down, write your thesis statement, and once you figure that out, think, okay, what's the next thing I need to do in this project.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's like okay, I have to write the first two paragraphs and then the next day you write down your goals, right, or finish the two paragraphs, and that's what you do, but you just break it down into very specific, smaller chunks, so it's like it's not as overwhelming as it might be like okay, well, I'm just going to sit here and write for an hour.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Um another thing I used to do that I still do today, is the five minute rule, where it's like I'm just going to work for five minutes and if I still feel terrible afterwards and I'll stop.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But usually when I would do that I would recognize like I don't want to start working, like I'm kind of in the flow state.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So that's my advice Start small.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Sounds like what you're saying as far as structure goes.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Sounds like finding the non-negotiables in your life.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: What are the things that you want to be disciplined in?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: What are things that are most important?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Taking the like, the one or two things in each category, breaking it down into bolts and points of smaller chunks, and focus on those first.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love what you said about the non-negotiables real quick, um, because, like you mentioned Cameron Haynes, and he's someone who's unbelievably accomplished.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's incredible.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: He's done so many things, yeah, and great kids too, sounds like take a guess at what his to do list is every day.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I would assume run that's one of them okay, I don't know what lift run shoot oh, that's all he does.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And he says I should have guessed he's like I don't have to have it at a certain time, like I don't have to lift at 5 am and run at 6 am and shoot like at 8 am.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: He's like I just have to get those done every single day and there's no like I mean, obviously that works for him.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: But the point is is he will do those non-negotiables no matter what, and you know, life does get messy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So I like the fact that he's like I don't care what time it is, as long as I do the thing right um, and I feel like I've gotten better with that, with running and fitness, just because I used to have to go in the morning.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: But now, with traveling and stuff, it's sometimes nice to have a couple extra minutes in the morning, or sometimes we're really tired and it doesn't make sense for us to wake up and go work out.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So be flexible with the timelines where you're doing the things, but don't miss them.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, trying out different things.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I think your personality is very much like you thrive on a schedule, right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Very much so.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You love knowing what time things are happening and having it organized that way.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I think I'm more of the Cam Haynes approach, where I'm like I'll get it done.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're easy breezy, it doesn't matter.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But then also you got to be careful, because if you have three or four non-negotiables, and you're running out of time at the end of the day, and then things come up during the day too, which makes it difficult.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: You're like oh, I forgot, I had a birthday party and.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do this.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So I mean, it seems as though getting things done first thing.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If you're able, sounds like that's the hack to not miss it, yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: However, I think, with people functioning differently and finding their way like maybe trying a more structured if that's like problematic, then taking more of the Cam Haines approach, but it sounds like having those non-negotiables breaking it down to the smallest form and being able to just work like kind of chip away rather than like expecting to move mountains in one day yeah, think of yourself as a scientist.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Like, experiment with the schedules, experiment with when you're going to be doing these things.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Um, find what works for you.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And I did mention earlier like, oh yeah, someone might post their morning routine and you might think you have to do that to be productive.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: But if there's something in there where you're like, okay, well, this guy wakes up at 6am, they go and they work out before work, like maybe I'll try that and if it works for you, great.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: But if it doesn't find the time where it does make the most sense for you to go and get after it or whatever that is, but experiment with these things, figure out what's the best for you and you'll be fine.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just lost my train of thought.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I was going to say Bring it back.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Bring it back, dang it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It just left, like immediately when I opened my mouth.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: It disappeared.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's faded into the air.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Where'd it go?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Bring it back.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I can't, but it's gone, that's okay.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Um, well, I wanted to say or I've not related to what I was going to say, I don't know what that was, but I was going to ask you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You've obviously seen both sides.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: You talk about fat Brett, you talk about fat bread a lot.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: You talked about this non-structured side before college, Like how would you say that has changed your life, Becoming more disciplined, being more consistent?
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: What is that doing for you on a day-to-day basis?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That's a really good question.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like it does a lot for me.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a much more difficult lifestyle.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah To busy seems, I mean yeah, busy maybe, but like I think it's just.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: If you decide to always improve and always try and get better in it, in whatever area, it is like it's hard, it requires discipline, it requires consistency and little fat Brett who was the coolest kid.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I wish I knew him was so cool, but like didn't really care what kind of foods he ate and didn't really care how he spent his time.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So like I would, I'd read still, like I always read at nighttime, but like you're always a nerd, it's okay, yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'd play video games like I wouldn't really care about school.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I would eat frozen meals all the time, like frozen meals and I'm sure like at the time I literally I didn't think anything of it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I was like this is great, like life is awesome, yeah, um, it's a breeze, and so like I feel like I could still be in that trap.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But the difference is is like I know what it's like to get after it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I know what it's like to have the confidence come from doing hard things and being prepared, and I know what that feeling's to have the confidence come from doing hard things and being prepared, and I know what that feeling's like.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I also know how like my body feels better if I'm eating well, if I'm working out and if I'm taking care of it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Like my mind performs better and so like.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's really.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: It is like I've experimented with both.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I've had times, even like recently, where like I won't do as well as I want in the gym, or like I'll eat crappy food and feel sick, or like crappy foods.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: He means he eats too many rice cakes and too many granola bars.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you eat crappy food all I mean is like I'll binge on those things and I'll feel terrible the next day and like I'm just like that's, that's a simple thing for me to be like, okay, there's evidence that this is obviously not good for me and, mind you, I am eating a lot of those things when the time comes, but I try not to Um, and so, yeah, I mean, I've had both experiences and I just the confidence that comes from pushing yourself and being proud of the work that you do, um, and then with the hope that you will become a better person like that's kind of what I'd rather live on.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So there's some people who don't care about getting after it and I've mentioned before on this podcast that it's not a lifestyle for everyone, um, and those people, you know, they just want a different life.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: But I think this is for people who, if they want to improve, if they want to get better in whatever aspect, it is like you need to start exercising some discipline and putting structure to your day, figuring out what your non-negotiables are and being religious about making sure that they happen.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So so you've seen the fruits of living this lifestyle, and they are good they're good they are delicious to the taste.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Huh I mean they are I.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Um best example is you what?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I started this podcast.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You reached out and now we're married okay, keep in mind I've been reached.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I was reaching out years before you started I know, but you said something really nice to me and that's really what won you over.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That's what did it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: That's like this girl she likes my podcast damn well, actually, oh, yes, I did and yes, I still do.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: But it was pretty bad at the beginning, so you're lying I supported you regardless.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I just want to be a good friend.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I love being everyone's number one cheerleader, but that that's what I wanted to ask is because you've seen your confidence grow yeah through being more disciplined, through living this lifestyle.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: How would you say your confidence was?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking fat brett no, not fat brett, even like since the beginning of you starting just being more disciplined and where you are now, because that's going to be a roller coaster.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I know you're saying there's times where it's like up and down, where maybe you're not hitting the workouts you want to or maybe you're slacking a little bit on healthy eating, more religious with my structured schedule and with my eating habits and my working out since then in college and where you are.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Now that you've talked to all these people, you've really dialed in on what getting after it means to you.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: How has your confidence in yourself either evolved or changed, or has it at all?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a ton ton.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really unbelievable, like I've always been, I think, someone who's insecure, like when I was fat Brett, I'd go swimming and wear a shirt, right, that kind of thing.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I was wondering, because I mean fat Brett, it makes sense, kind of no offense that you're a little bit more insecure, Like if you're not living a healthy lifestyle.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: That usually goes hand in hand with a little bit more of insecurity, but the whole getting after it time.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm curious if your confidence has grown or if it kind of stays the same, if you've been doing the same stuff yeah, um, it's definitely grown and I think the reason being is I've made more of an effort to pursue the things I'm interested in.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Um, because I think about, like, when I was at swallow, I was so good at marketing, I was really good at ads like I could get your roi up to like 12 whatever that means chunk cookies he crushed it their row, as return on ad spend was like 24, so every dollar they'd spend.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: They'd get 24 back.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Anyways, I was really good at ads okay good, but I didn't get any confidence from that because it wasn't anything like I wanted to pursue, um.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And so I think, like you can get good at something and not get any confidence from it, like another thing too, like I was so good at halo as a kid you should be proud of that unbelievable he was ranked yeah, I mean, I don't know what the ranking specifically was but one million.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: But that's a rank.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: No, it was good, um, but like, even then it's like, okay, well, the only time I would ever be confident with halo is like if I was actually playing the game right, like going online.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Like that confidence isn't going to bleed into other areas of my life.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: And so I think, yes, everything I've done with getting after I have gotten more confident doing them, easy thing to do is go back.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Listen to episode one of this podcast.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not confident.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like hi, this is Brett, you're just a little boy.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the podcast.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm like I would message that guy yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: This guy is nice, but now it's like, okay, well.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just, we're having conversations like I'm telling people things that I'm interested in and and the confidence has come from doing the reps um, honing in the message of the podcast, like and because it's something I believe in, and so like I get confidence from this thing, because I'm like, hey, listen, this is important to me, like hopefully it resonates with someone, but like I'm confident that this message is going, like it aligns with everything that getting after it's about.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And so also with running like that's been a great uh confidence builder for me.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Is running really like when I was sick.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I I tell the story but I have.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I've run like I ran seven miles for the first time when I was sick and it was like 11 minute pace and I remember being so proud at the time of that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Good, you should.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And like I was like man, that was awesome, that was so cool, god's sake, whatever.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Once I started running more and started competing in actual races and stuff like that, when I would do the work, prepare for it and know I did my training well, I was rested, I was fueled.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: When I stepped on the start line I was confident I'm going to be able to finish this race.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Then when I finish it, I'm like maybe I can do a marathon after that half.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Then I I finish it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like maybe I can do a marathon after that half and then I finished the marathon.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like maybe an ultra is next.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But I think that confidence comes from one you're doing hard things.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: We talked about that with team Tim.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: That's like a big one.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Confidence comes from doing hard things.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: It teaches you a lot about yourself and teaches you about how you respond when things don't go well.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Um, it teaches you that you're capable of doing more.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the biggest one, cause a lot of the times when we go to team Tim or I tell people, hey, you should run, they'll say I'm not a runner.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: And then you know they'll run the race and they'll be like I cannot believe I just did that, Like that is crazy, right, and like that's the coolest feeling.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: That's like, honestly, the reason I love going to Team Tim now is like just seeing people just being like I can't believe I did that, like I never thought that was possible, and I feel like that's just what comes from doing hard things is like if you're able to do your best, if you're able to show up and and some of those people who say I can't believe I did that, no shade on them, but they might have had the slowest pace of the whole race, but who cares?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Right, like they still did something difficult.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: The distance is the distance.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Right and they push through difficulties, and so I think that's the benefit of doing hard things.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It tells your brain hey, that wasn't our limit.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Um, and then preparation is the other one too, like the only reason those people were able to do that mostly blake's an anomaly my brother's freaky about that he's unbelievable he won't run one step and he'll just show up for the race and finish it somehow yeah, he's a beast, um, but like he's an anomaly he's an anomaly he's always last, but he's there and it's impressive and we love him for that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, like, the confidence that comes from preparation is like did you do all you can to get ready for this moment?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Are you confident that, like, if it's a presentation you're giving at work, that all the information is correct, that you did your best, and is it like is the effort you put in going to get you the result you want?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Um, so I think those two things are what build confidence.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: At least for me is doing difficult things, proving to yourself that you can do more, and then preparing for that moment right so all the training, all the training, all the reading, all the studying, whatever it is like.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: That's what's going to bring you that confidence I feel like preparation is definitely the antidote for anxiety as well.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: In a lot of scenarios, what it sounds like you're saying is since you started getting after it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you already since the beginning.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Sounds like you're confident in your ability to live, sounds like your comfortability, you're confident in your ability to do specific tasks, but it sounds like, over time, your confidence in who you are has evolved yeah would you agree?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: yeah, so I mean.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I always say the phrase like if you're able to be disciplined in one area, it bleeds into every other area of your life.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I've seen that very much so in mine.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Um, like with fitness that's an easy example.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Like I've gotten better, yeah, um, my endurance is up with my job.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Like I've learned how to be more disciplined there, how to get things done relationships.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Youhips, you're killing it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like marriage, and marriage is an interesting one because, like you don't think about like, oh, it doesn't need discipline.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: But it kind of does.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, absolutely.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Like you have to be disciplined enough to have date night, yeah, whenever you can.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Like you and I we read our scriptures together.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Like that requires requires discipline, but it's those small things that keep us strong I feel like the consistency part is what has helped our marriage just be incredible yeah as well.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: It's like the things that you don't think about, like day to day, usually, like oh, like telling them they look good, and like the little flirty stuff.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, yes, we already know we love each other, that's great.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: But doing the small acts every day, like breaking it down, those little things you can do every day to show your spouse that you love them and I mean, if you think about it just day by day, those actions aren't very big and they don't really add up to anything.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Like if I came to you and I was like baby looks so hot I'm like you tell me every four seconds.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah it's crazy.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: And then I don't say that for like another two weeks, right, and you're like man.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: You might question yourself.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know I'm not hot anymore.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: But like it's because it's consistent, that it just reassures you that I'm obsessed with you.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And like it's because I'm consistent with the gym.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Like one gym session is not going to change anything.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: One good meal is not going to change anything.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: One bad meal is not going to change anything.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: It's the consistency piece right and so that's what's important is like yes, these actions we're talking about, like going to the gym, telling your spouse you love them, getting them flowers occasionally, like going on date night, taking time to study something for yourself and refine your own skills, or like work on the podcast, like all these things.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Like, day by day, these actions aren't going to add up to a lot, but you look, it's like that guy manipulate time yeah like you, add that up over a couple weeks, I'm gonna kick your butt right, it's true, though but it really is.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: It's like you know, that's why people like cam Haines and Truett Haines this is my hypothesis are so good is because they're just unbelievably consistent, because they do it day to day.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: So it's like consistency is huge and discipline is needed, but consistency is equally as important, like it's an equation.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Think about it as math Discipline plus consistency equals achievement.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: This might be an obvious question, but obviously you learned how to get after it for yourself.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: You're like.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: These tools are helping me become a better version of myself.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling better, feeling stronger, feeling happier Seems obvious, but you want to make this a podcast.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You want to talk to people about what they can do to feel the same way you feel in terms of growth.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Why did you want to make to people about what they can?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: do to feel the same way you feel in terms of growth.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Why did you want to make this into a community?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that's a good question and I have the answer.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Thank, heavens so I mean like I you said it like I've seen all the benefit that have, the benefits that have come into my life from getting after it, from pushing myself, and my life has gotten much better.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It's been hard.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Right Things come up.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Things come up, and it's not an easy lifestyle is what I mean by that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: It requires early mornings, it requires a sore body, it requires fatigue, but the fruits of it are so much better than the alternative that it's like it's been so worth it to me and so many opportunities have come from this, so many like.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I've met so many new people.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Like and you said it like I'm just a happier, better person.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I would say, and I can confidently say that, actually, from when I started this thing to where it is now, and I just have this idea in my head that if we had a community of people who were there to improve themselves but also support other people who are trying to do the same thing, I can't imagine what like this might sound crazy, but like what kind of an impact that would have on the world.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It's like if there's a bunch of other people who are getting after it, who are testing themselves, but then also trying to push others to do the same, like I'm just one small voice, but if you had a thousand other people who were very similar to me and and the things that they do with like getting after it and themselves, but also telling other people that and helping them realize that they have more potential to do than they have, more potential to give to the world than they thought.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That would mean a lot to me, everyone realizing, okay, yeah, maybe some things that Brett says I can try and if it works, cool, my life might be a little bit better.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And I always say, like, if I'm able to help one person, then that's kind of what the goal is.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Um, just because, like, all these principles, all these teachings and and everything has benefited my life.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Um, so I can't imagine, like, what it would do for so many others.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: And I feel like there's a lot of people out there who are, they feel lost, they feel like they're not achieving anything, they don't have specific or realistic goals and they need confidence.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And that's going to come from deciding to be disciplined and and having to do difficult things, and so really that's kind of my dream and the vision for getting after.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: It is like to build a community of people who are all there to support one another and to support themselves and improve how do you think a community will help those people?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, how have you noticed that heavy?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Do you have a support system?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Like, what is?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: What about?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Community is gonna be the thing that helps people get after it yeah, it's a good one.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Um, there was this quote from uh simon s.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: He was on Chris Williamson's podcast and he said I think his definition of community was a group of people who are committed to supporting each other.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: And I mean, the reason I wanted a community and I want to build it is because I had so many questions as I was on my own journey of like, okay, well, this isn't working for me, I need something else.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Um, or like there wasn't a lot of people who I could reach out to and be like man, this sucks.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Like I had my coach and I had you and that was about it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Like, man, I'm struggling in the gym, like I don't know what to do.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Um, I'm feeling pretty weak.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Like all these things come up, there's a lot of questions to be answered and, because of the fact that everyone has something unique to offer, there might be one person who says something in this community wherever it is like trying to build a platform for it or whatever where they say something that might resonate with that person specifically that I might not have been able to help them with, and so that's really.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I think, like you get more and more people in this ecosystem where they're able to cheer other people on.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Like be there.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone in this community is going to be everyone's cheerleader.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Like that's the rule is if you're joining this thing, you're going to help other people to achieve their goals, because that's what it's all about.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: And so I think that's really it.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It's like it'll help answer a lot of questions.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It'll help people feel more confident, but, all in all, I think it's like you take a lot of pride in being part of a group that, like, is willing to push themselves and get better, and I feel like if you're part of that group, it might be more motivation for yourself to be like hey, I'm in this, I got to do work.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Um, like I, I got to get after it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I'm part of the getting after community.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: You got to do it, like commit to change your life Right.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: So it sounds very self-help, like self-help, like I mean, you're improving real quick.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: You keep touching this thing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It might make the sound really yeah, you touching that and this stuff and I think it might be making sounds.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Just a heads up okay okay, um you know me with my sign I don't think I'm gonna edit it out you had to edit it out.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I made the sign.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: That's a stop sign I guess this is your podcast, this is my podcast today.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I can say what I want.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Um, I like what you said about learning from each other, because that's one thing that I've noticed a lot is when you start running, for example, you kind of just go outside and like go for a mile.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, that was kind of weird.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: You just like walk outside and go.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows how to run.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not really.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, someone teach me how to run.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like my form has been so off lately, but, exactly Like you think it's just moving forward, which it is to an extent.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: However, then you talk to other people who are big time runners.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: You talk to physical therapists, talk to doctors, you talk to like anyone with any type of other experience.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: You're like oh, I'm supposed to be stretching before and after.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's better to do dynamic stretching before and static stretching after.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, I need to do hip mobility.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I need to.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I need a foam roll, like all these things, that if you aren't involved in that community, if you're not around other people who have more experience than you, you may be getting injured faster.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: You may hate running because you're like I can't do it because it hurts every time.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like it hurts for everybody, but why does it hurt for you?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Because there's five things that you're not doing, that all the other runners are doing, that aren't hurting, and so being able to learn from other people in a humble way because there's it's such a human, like a humble thing, joining groups or being part of different friendships and communities, or whatever you want to call it, and being like the dumbest one there, like there's so many benefits from that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's like a, it's kind of like a shy thing where you're like I don't want to be the dumbest person in the room, because then you look like the dumbest person in the room, right.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: However, it's actually the best thing ever, because you're in a position where you can learn from everyone around you yeah and it sounds like being in the getting after a community, learning from other people, and you yourself will have experience like, oh, like I've noticed that I like to take cold showers after and it really helps me.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever, like, maybe you're doing something completely random that is going to help somebody else.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: He's like oh, maybe that's a factor for me.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's been cool about social media.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Like we give social media a ton of hate Rightfully so in a lot of ways, However, that's the only part I like really.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: However, it has a lot of benefits, like one, and probably the biggest being you're learning from literally everyone in the entire world.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: There's people in Africa they're like they have a hack to being great runners or something and then you in small town, gilbert Arizona, are learning from this random person.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's cool.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And being able to create a community where people can go and know that they're in a safe place, where they can ask all the seemingly dumb questions or they can be inspired by other people I think that has been one of my favorite things is I'm not a very fast runner, I'm your average Joe, but I love being married to you because I don't feel any jealousy, I don't feel competitive.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: You're a boy, you're six foot three, I'm five five.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting me to keep up with you, but it is inspiring for me to be able to see you and get up at five in the morning and you're hitting the trails and I'm like, oh dang, I should be doing that too, and not out of a place of like self-hate, but I have a place of dang.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I love this person and they're doing all these incredible things and I see what they're doing to become incredible.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I can follow those footsteps, I can do that thing, I can get up, I can go run.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: He's getting the salad, I'm getting the hamburger.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe I should get the sound next time, like I can see and witness it, and not come out of a place of spite, but of like you're paving this path for me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: That is so clear.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And I think you're doing the same thing with your followers.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: We're like I have gone through the hard work, I have done all.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I've done trial and error time and time again to see what works for me.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I'm paving this path.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: If you want to follow it, let me show you what I'm doing.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And maybe they go off on a different trail and be like hey, this is working for me and maybe some people follow that trail, like that's what's working for me.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: It's very inspiring to see what you've been doing with like obviously I talk to you day in and day out about this stuff.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Like I'm able to be in a situation where this is our dinner time conversations.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: We could be eating our meal right now.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: This is what our dinner table sounds like.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That's pretty accurate actually.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's nice to be able to be so involved and to learn from you.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I hope a little bit you learn from me as well.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Very much.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I learn way more from you than you learn from me.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: What I mean is it has been very incredible to see how much you care about other people's success.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's what incredible people do Not to toot your horn, but I'm going to toot it, yeah.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not perfect.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you are, I'm not the best.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Trust me, you have a lot of flaws.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: No, but what I mean by that is like when we talked about comparison in the beginning.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Comparison, I think, comes from a lack of confidence.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Honestly, you always say no one above you is going to be tearing you down.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Because they understand what it takes to get to the top and people who are doing well, who are thriving.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: They want to help other people reach to these high peaks as well.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And so if you find yourself comparing, or if you follow the Getting After it podcast the podcast or the Instagram or the community, whatever if you find yourself feeling jealous or like you're comparing a lot, it seems like that's when you need to make that change, Like, no, I'm going to try and learn, I'm not going to bring them down, I'm going to do all I can because this can help me as well.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And it seems like that's kind of like the group that you're creating a place of support and and uh, tips and just growth in general and friends and friends.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, the support.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And let me ask you this why is that so important to stay in age?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Why do we need that?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: because I don't think you get it a lot.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I think when you're on social media, it's very superficial interactions that you're having, like not a lot of them are deep and the idea behind getting after it is like this would be honestly the dream.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: There's some people in the community who are like hey, I'm going to go run on Saturday and anyone's welcome to join, and then five people show up and run with this guy or gal.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, but it's hard to have actual connection with people and part of getting after it down the line, I want to do events and do running and that kind of thing and have people come and meet other people who are very similar to them.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: After talking to Dr Kim Buck, she was saying that connection is one of the most crucial things that we need as humans.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Covid, social media, all those things kind of messed up our human connection.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Now it's hard to get that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Then there's people out there who were like me before we got married, who are just alone.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I lived by myself.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I'd go to work.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I met people there there like I would talk to them, but then I would just go home and like I had nothing really to to do and that wasn't easy and it's not an easy situation to be alone in, and I feel like when you're starting a journey, whether it's a fitness one or a professional, or like a personal progress one that you want to focus on, um, there's going to be times when you feel alone because, like you said, there's also going to be people who might have their own opinions on what you're doing and might say that's stupid, like you're running, that's dumb.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Um, really, those people are just losers.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Those people are just losers.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: They they want an excuse, they want to have other people um not succeed.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And they're just losers like crabs in a bucket.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Like get out of there, jump out of that bucket.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Like if someone tears you down, you can immediately say you're probably a loser I stand by that, um, but that's really why it's like building a community.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of people feel alone on journeys like this.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: They don't feel supported, they don't feel like they can keep going on days when they their minds are telling them, hey, I don't want to do this anymore, and they're tired.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: They might listen to that feeling, but if they jumped on this community and they're like, hey guys, I'm feeling exhausted, I'm tired, I haven't seen any progress, I guarantee you everyone would be like, hey, that's what happens.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: You got this, don't stop.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Like, stay consistent, like you keep going, and that's, I think, what's important.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: And I feel like that's very missed in the world.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's very missed in the world With your desire to make a community.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Does any of those feelings of the loneliness and the lack of support kind of resonate with you?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Were you like that prior?
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Is that, any or any of those feelings, a reason why you wanted to start this?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those feelings a reason why you wanted to start this.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the podcast, the whole idea of this came from listening to like jocko and joe rogan and all these random people when I couldn't, when I was sick and I couldn't watch anything or read anything probably your most lonely time, I guess it felt very lonely.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I literally thought I was dying.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: That's so sad.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Um so, yeah, definitely that time.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: And then, like I said, like I had a lot of questions when I started my own journey.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't know really how to run Like that is something you actually have to learn how to do.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Didn't know anything about feeling.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Didn't know anything.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: That should be natural.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: That drives me nuts.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I mean I think it is, but we sit a lot and then that becomes our more natural state.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it is, but we sit a lot and then that becomes our more natural state.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, I hate that.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, but yeah, I mean, I just think I have felt that too many times in my life, that lonely feeling of like I don't know who to turn to, or I don't know if I'm doing this right, or I feel alone in this journey, I have no support, because that's a sad reality of a lot of people is they don't have a support system.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: And so if we can make that for them, if we could be that support for them and help them reach their goals and build their confidence and and have them look in the mirror and be like I'm a different person than I was a year or two years ago, like that is the goal, that is what I hope it becomes.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Oh that you kind of touched on it for a minute.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: You talked about a little bit of the future, of getting after it, like events, stuff like that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: What do you kind of see happening with getting after?
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: What are these events you're talking about and what do you hope to achieve with your initiative?
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: you've been pushing I mean the future of it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: The podcast will be more in depth.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I'll have on guests Like that's.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: That's something I I'm very passionate about is I want to have guests on because everyone's story is different and, like we were talking about, someone might say something that I couldn't have said.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: That resonates with the person listening.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: So I want to have more people on.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: So if you want to come on the podcast, if you have your own story, Please let me know.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Let them know If you know somebody that has a very crazy, interesting life story, something that we can learn from.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Let Brett know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Always.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Everyone has a story.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Everyone has a story.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: You're gettingafteritco on Instagram.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Gettingafteritco co and TikTok.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Everyone has to write You're getting after it.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Co on Instagram getting after it Dot co, dot co and tick tock, and, and then Brett.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Russell getting after it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Dot com, you can email me.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, keep getting after it Dot com.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: I envision races that we do, I can.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I want to start off with a 10 K going to the half marathon.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: If I can do a getting after a marathon, that would be a dream come true, um.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Or an ultra race, like little pop-up things, like it doesn't have to be anything crazy.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: But I mean I want to do official ones, yes, but I also mean like other pop-up things.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, like have a pop-up tent, um, but I want to have races be a part of it, because there is a like.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Every time I go to team Tim, it's like I'm friends with all those people.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: They don't want other people to experience that and run with their friends.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Um, I mean, obviously, shirts, they're coming out merch, that'd be cool, um.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: But really my whole thing is like I know what these principles have taught me, I know what they've done for me in my life and I know they can have the same effect on other people if applied.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So how can I get that message to them?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: How can I help them realize that they are made for more and build that confidence in themselves so they can go after and do the things that they want to accomplish that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: They've always been either scared to do or just haven't known how to, so that's really what I want Getting After to Become.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It's just a place where people are inspired to go and do the things that they didn't think they could before.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it's already inspired me a lot.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: So I can be your one person, at least for now that you know.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I will take that You're my wife.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: You're the most important person to me.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I think it has changed my life I think it's changed our relationship in a positive way.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: We hit two years on tuesday.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Let's go quick, two years it's crazy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I know I wanted to ask.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Over these last two years we've learned a lot we have we have.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: You talked about getting after in personal relationships as well.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, how does this getting after initiative everything you wanted it to become?
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: You talked a lot about it in a fitness way.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: How does that bring into your relationships more?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that, and we can kind of end it around this, but you talked about the importance of connection yeah and community and we talked a lot about fitness.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: What would you say that getting after has done for our marriage in the last two years?
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Now that we're hitting our anniversary.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's brought us way closer together.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I would say, and reason being is like we're trying to work towards similar goals together, we're supporting one another and everything that we do, um, but I think one thing specifically for marriage that getting after it does is it forces you to think of the other person before yourself, and I believe we're pretty good at that.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, we're always asking the other person like what we can do to make their life easier, and so like we're always thinking about each other.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: We're always know.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: We're always asking the other person like what we can do to make their life easier, and so like we're always thinking about each other.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: We're always making sure we're like seeing how they're doing throughout the day.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Like it's just the little things that add up.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: But I would say just the most important thing, that getting after it is done is just like taught us how to be consistent in our marriage and our routine and always make time for one another our marriage and our routine and always make time for one another, because if you start losing that, then you start forgetting the person who you married or dated.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: And it's like you always have to be dating.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's an important rule.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: You always say that yeah, we're still dating.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just say like oh yeah, it's like we're dating again.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like we are, we are dating all the time I'm like we are.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: We are dating all the time.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you tell me things that I never knew about you.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: That's true, but that's what I would say.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: It teaches you how to be consistent, and it also teaches you how to be selfless, because, as funny as this might sound, this is going to be a weird analogy, but if you're out on the trails and you're running up the mountain and you're super tired and you're exerting a bunch of energy.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: that's hard.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: And then if your wife is like, hey, can you go get me some water, that's pretty freaking easy, go get the water.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: That's so funny.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: So go do difficult things.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: So when your wife asks you for small things, it's easy.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: That's so funny.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: That's the rule.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: That's a life hack right there.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: That's you.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: For small things, it's easy, that's so funny, that's the rule.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: That's a life hack right there.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Go, do hard things push yourself.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Make sure you make yourself want to throw up, and then anything your wife says will be easy you just solved all marriage issues.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You heard it here first no, the reason I ask is because we talked a lot about just getting after.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Obviously, the whole podcast is getting after it.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: The reason I want to talk about this is because obviously you're the getting after host podcast and I thought it'd be fun to kind of interview you this time to be able to see more into your mind of what you hope this to be, what, why it is what it is, and I've seen it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: You've been incredible, being able to do it in your physical and your emotional relationships and all these different categories.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm able to do it in your physical and your emotional relationships and all these different categories and I'm able to be a witness to the benefits of living with someone who gets after it and being one who strives to get after it.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And so it's fun for me to kind of hear your perspective on what all this is for you and I'm excited for where this is all going.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I think we have some big things coming up.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Like you said, hopefully we have merch coming.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I say we.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's a brett thing, but I'm involved somehow you're 50 owner and it's so fun for me yeah but, um, with the future events being more running, uh, focus.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to kind of end with it's still a relationship thing, it's still a community piece.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: There's so many different aspects to it which makes it seem complicated, but when you boil it down to one sentence, what is getting after it?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Boiled down to one sentence?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Did you just?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you a gesture.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just did the hand thing, give me that little.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Give it to me All right, boiled down, what would it be?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I gesture yeah, you just did the hand thing give me that little, give me it to me all right, well down, what would it be?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's what I said earlier it's a community of people who are committed to grow and help others do the same.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I want to hear a sweet concise condensed there you go and that's what getting after is.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: But thanks for having me ask you questions this has been fun it's fun for me to hear from your perspective, I mean hopefully it wasn't too scary scary my mind is a storm no, and I think it's fun to be able to kind of dive into that a little bit.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: My mind is almost a little too simple.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like like nothing's really going on in it, and so it's fun for me to be able to understand you more thoroughly, to be able to understand what I can be doing, like living a more structured life, like chipping away at the little things, to grow in my discipline and consistency, to not compare, to ask for help, to gain a community.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: It's fun having this conversation so that my takeaways are to be able to do the little things in order to become a better version of myself.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and realize it's very personal to you.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Very personal.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Exactly, we're on our own paths.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: We can carve our own paths.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: We can follow somebody else's until we find our own way.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: But I think I've learned a lot.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I think I learned a lot every time I talked to you, and that's why I wanted everyone else to be able to hear a little bit more of your voice.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you interviewing me.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want anyone else to, unless it was Chris.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Why you have lots of great things to say.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: More people should interview you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just feel like it's fun with my wife.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: That's true, it is fun and, like I said, it's our anniversary.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, we can do it together.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's so lame.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: We'll do this as an anniversary episode.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: An anniversary takeover.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Did it come out on a Tuesday?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: No, it'll come out tomorrow, okay, well, anyways, well, I love you.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Thanks for chatting with me and, as always, keep getting after it.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Nice work, baby.