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Kyle Schwarber’s EPIC Phillies walk-off, Devers' Fenway RETURN, Cubs STEALING signs? · Ross and Rizzo Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: There's something about the warm summer air and a cold
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  Speaker 1: corona with lime that makes the roar of the crowd
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  Speaker 1: sound a lot like the roar of the waves.
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  Speaker 2: That's because this is our playa, and the best seats
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  Speaker 2: are always wherever you're sitting.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's a weeknight game under the lights or a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon in the sun, you know baseball isn't about
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  Speaker 1: rushing around. It's about settling in, letting the game come
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  Speaker 1: to you. And nothing pairs better than an ice-cold corona.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: So find your seat, your corona, and your lime. Because
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  Speaker 2: real fans know the only thing better than nine innings
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  Speaker 2: is extra innings, especially on La Playa.
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  Speaker 3: Corona.
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  Speaker 2: La Playa awaits.
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  Speaker 4: Swing and a fly ball. Center field. Going back is Church.
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  Speaker 4: Back toward the wall.
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  Speaker 1: It is over.
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  Speaker 3: Off the batter's eye.
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  Speaker 4: Out to Asford Alley.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber has just completed an improbable comeback. A two-run
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  Speaker 1: game-winning home run.
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  Speaker 3: The Phillies down 4-0.
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  Speaker 4: They win it 6-4. It's the first walk-off home run
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  Speaker 4: in more than three years. Kyle Schwarber, our guy, friend
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  Speaker 4: of the program.
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  Speaker 3: We're still doing the Loveable Reunion, bro. We're still doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go, Schwarz.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, can you believe that the Phillies haven't had a
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  Speaker 4: walk-off home run in three years? That's, I was... blown
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  Speaker 4: away when I heard that.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 4: You see walk-off home runs every other day, but, man,
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  Speaker 4: what a moment there in Philly. They're down 4-0 going
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  Speaker 4: into the ninth, all with two outs, scored all six
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  Speaker 4: runs with two outs, and then Schwarber with the iconic
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  Speaker 4: pose there. I mean, bro, he's on another level, Rossi.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, that place loves him. They go crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And you just start– it's like there's certain guys in
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  Speaker 1: the league that when they come– to hit they come
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  Speaker 1: to hit especially in big moments they're gonna you know
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna come through you just feel it and Schwab
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  Speaker 1: is is in a leading all of baseball with home
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  Speaker 1: runs the dude is just the the you know he's
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  Speaker 1: the slugger of our time right now uh he's rolling
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  Speaker 1: especially with like judgy out uh it's fun it's fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch him but it's amazing I I go back
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  Speaker 1: to like catching and you've got two outs, you're like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they'll hit it at somebody.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: There's two outs.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep putting heaters down, heaters in, heaters out. And
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know, that butthole gets
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  Speaker 1: tight a little bit. And then Schwartz comes through.
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  Speaker 3: That was, that was amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Happy for him.
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  Speaker 3: Good job.
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  Speaker 4: I texted him yesterday and I go, you're my favorite player.
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  Speaker 4: I go, that was amazing. And he's just like, I
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  Speaker 4: can't believe we fucking won that game. Right. And even
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  Speaker 4: that's the beauty of Schwartz. Even as a player, you're just,
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  Speaker 4: After those games, you just sit back in the clubhouse
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  Speaker 4: with the boys and you're like, wow, can you believe
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  Speaker 4: we just did that? Those are the defining moments in
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  Speaker 4: the season where you look back and you're like, that
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  Speaker 4: was a big moment for us. That was a big
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  Speaker 4: confidence builder.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like those wins, when you have those throughout
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  Speaker 1: the season, those are the ones that get you into
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  Speaker 1: the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: You're never out of a game. You never stop fighting.
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  Speaker 1: When you have those comeback wins like that, the guys
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  Speaker 1: just keep throwing A-Bs on there.
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  Speaker 3: And the Phillies have been rolling, man.
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  Speaker 5: Rolling.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he gave them some good juju
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  Speaker 1: at the Field of Dreams, but forward for a couple
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  Speaker 1: homers there.
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  Speaker 3: And they've been, I mean, their offense.
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  Speaker 4: Nine and one in their last ten.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're now three and a half back from
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  Speaker 4: the Braves. It seemed like last week it was a
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  Speaker 4: long shot that they can catch the Braves. They're three
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  Speaker 4: and a half back. They play the Braves seven times
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  Speaker 4: in September.
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  Speaker 3: That's got to be nice.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, bro, that Luisa rise comes in. They're not
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  Speaker 4: striking out as much. They're putting the ball in play more.
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  Speaker 4: Harper is rolling. Harper's having a very underrated season. He's
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  Speaker 4: just kind of going kind of just under the radar
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  Speaker 4: the whole year. He's going to have 30 pumps. He's
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  Speaker 4: a 900 OPS. So, I mean, this team is something.
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  Speaker 4: They lost last night. Shout out to Cal Raleigh with
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  Speaker 4: the three home runs. Hopefully he gets rolling for the Mariners. But, man,
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  Speaker 4: the Phillies, man, they got in a three-game series. They
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  Speaker 4: are going to be tough.
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  Speaker 3: Well, where are you going, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, with the rise and the contact that they added,
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  Speaker 1: and then Harper leads all of baseball and walks.
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  Speaker 3: Like, he's not, he's like, you know what, we're deep.
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  Speaker 1: Guys like Alec Baum, who struggled in the first half,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's getting on base, Stott's getting on base.
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  Speaker 1: When you have a lineup that's controlling the strike zone
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  Speaker 1: like they are right now, and dudes are turning it.
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  Speaker 3: Over, and you're going to have to come see somebody.
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  Speaker 1: In that Phillies ballpark and at that citizens bank, it's
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  Speaker 1: we're at the bank and the, the lineup is deep.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tough, it's a tough row for the, for
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  Speaker 3: the opposing pitcher. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right now it's lined up for a Cubs Phillies in
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  Speaker 4: the wildcard. That's going to be, that would be epic.
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  Speaker 4: If that happened, that'd be fun to watch at Wrigley too.
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  Speaker 4: So Cubs are rolling. That leads us to another episode,
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  Speaker 4: Rossi of Ross and Rizzo unfiltered. We are back. rossi
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  Speaker 4: is in pebble beach.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you live from yeah no big deal
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  Speaker 1: my bad.
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  Speaker 4: Wow are you kidding me well how's it going how's
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  Speaker 4: your golf game yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I played okay yesterday we played spy class not that
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  Speaker 1: it's about me but let me talk about me i
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  Speaker 1: got to play with some country music buddies and a
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  Speaker 1: comedian jeff die uh brett young chase rice like we
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  Speaker 1: had a just a heck of a time yesterday playing
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  Speaker 1: and then we got pebble uh this morning when i
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  Speaker 1: get off here with you so Uh, excited. It's for
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  Speaker 1: a good cause. Um, you know, doing some chair, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my charity work in the off season, but, uh, or
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  Speaker 1: in season, I guess. Uh, but you know about that,
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  Speaker 1: having a blast. What have you been up to?
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  Speaker 4: I did the red Sox giants game, uh, last this Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: which was fun. I'm in New York. Now I go
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  Speaker 4: to Chicago this weekend, got the reds and Johnny Lester's, uh, reds,
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  Speaker 4: Johnny Lester's retirement Rossi. I don't know if you saw this,
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  Speaker 4: but The Cubs did a top 150 team. Unfortunately, you
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  Speaker 4: did not make it. Fortunately, I did make it. Wrigley
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  Speaker 4: celebrating 150 years of baseball at Wrigley. It's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: big honor to make that team, especially with all the
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  Speaker 4: people who have played in Chicago. But it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a good weekend. They're doing a ceremony on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: doing some dinner on Friday with friends and family. And
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  Speaker 4: then the game Sunday. The game Sunday is going to
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  Speaker 4: be fun. I'm actually in the booth for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: Nice.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to pick your brain on that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get you on here to maybe hopefully you say,
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe I said that on TV or something.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it's not just me this whole time.
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  Speaker 4: Jason Benetti teased me up nicely. But being in the booth,
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  Speaker 4: that'll be fun. And then Joey Votto is inside the pitch.
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  Speaker 4: So the banter back and forth. between us two. I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking forward to talking to Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That'll be fun. That'll be fun. Hey, congrats on that. The, the,
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  Speaker 3: the making that team.
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  Speaker 1: That's if I would have been on that team, we
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  Speaker 1: would have had to check whoever made that thing out.
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  Speaker 3: We would have, we would have had to, we would
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  Speaker 3: have had to do.
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  Speaker 1: Some background, but that's awesome, man. That's all I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be there to celebrate Johnny Lester. I wish I
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  Speaker 1: could make it. I've got some, I got my, my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to see her play Troy this weekend for volleyball.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm pumped about that.
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  Speaker 3: And I got Harper.
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  Speaker 1: My, uh, my little one turns 11 tomorrow. So I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: I got a little birthday party at the house.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
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  Speaker 4: There we go.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Sleepover.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So pray for me. Pray for me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It'd be good.
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  Speaker 4: Are you flying?
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  Speaker 1: I fly tomorrow, tomorrow. I'm going to fly out tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: And then I've got to host the birthday party at
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  Speaker 1: my house on Friday. A little water slide, a little pizza.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do the whole thing, you know, uh, pick them
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  Speaker 1: up all from school, load them down.
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  Speaker 3: And let them party. So you had the Rafi Devers moment.
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  Speaker 3: What was that like? Rafi Devers first came back at Fenway. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 3: I had.
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  Speaker 4: The Sunday game, so I didn't see Friday, but the
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  Speaker 4: boos were steady on Sunday as well. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: said this on air. When you have a passionate fan
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  Speaker 4: base with Boston, it doesn't surprise me that they booed
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  Speaker 4: Rafi with the superstar that he was and the terms
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  Speaker 4: he left on. It doesn't surprise me that he got
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  Speaker 4: all the boos all weekend. But what he did there
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  Speaker 4: when he was at the Red Sox, you know, he
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  Speaker 4: posted every day. I respected him from afar. He won
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  Speaker 4: a World Series championship. I mean, at the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day, he felt like he was miscommunicated with by
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  Speaker 4: Craig Breslow and the Red Sox front office. And they
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  Speaker 4: trade him away. And he seems to be pretty happy
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  Speaker 4: in San Francisco. But the Red Sox are on one
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  Speaker 4: end of the spectrum and the Giants are on the
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  Speaker 4: other end of the spectrum right now. The Red Sox
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  Speaker 4: are rolling. The Giants are on pace to lose a
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  Speaker 4: lot of games. So, um, but yeah, it was, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it was fun being there. It was fun being in
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  Speaker 4: that action, being at Fenway, seeing the, the role that
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  Speaker 4: the Red Sox, man, that team is real.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know, as well as I do, like
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  Speaker 1: there's something about going back to the team that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: even when you leave on good terms, like I grew
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  Speaker 1: up a Braves fan and played for Atlanta for four years,
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  Speaker 1: but when you go back, you want to beat the team.
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  Speaker 3: You left. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You definitely want to do it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they lost on Friday. They lost on Friday,
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  Speaker 4: and he hit the homer. He hit the homer.
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  Speaker 3: That had to feel good.
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  Speaker 4: The homer had to feel good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I said the Red Sox messed up. They should have
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  Speaker 4: just played it. If they wanted the fans to cheer,
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  Speaker 4: they should have just played the Rafi Devers compilation video
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  Speaker 4: of him hitting all of his home runs off Garrett Cole. Right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: give him some love. Yeah, and then just a quick
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  Speaker 4: montage of them winning the World Series. But I feel like,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, even in the ninth inning there, when the
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  Speaker 4: Red Sox were about to win, you have– Here's the
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  Speaker 4: home run here. I mean, the pose there, I've seen
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  Speaker 4: that pose so many times playing against him. even in
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  Speaker 4: the ninth inning when the Red Sox were about to
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  Speaker 4: win and sweep you hear the Red Sox fans screaming
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  Speaker 4: Yankees suck Yankees suck.
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  Speaker 1: So that's so great well they've got some games coming
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  Speaker 1: up that'll be a nice little back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah this weekend They have a big set this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Four games in three days, doubleheader on Saturday. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the Red Sox are real, man. I can't praise Chad
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  Speaker 4: Tracy enough. I've got to interview him a few times
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  Speaker 4: now being there at NBC. And I was really excited
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  Speaker 4: to see how he would be now compared to when
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  Speaker 4: he first got the job because when he first got
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  Speaker 4: the job, it was a shit show there. And man,
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  Speaker 4: he's just steady Eddie impressive. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 4: know him at all, but it's in the blood. It's
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  Speaker 4: in the family. His dad was a big league manager.
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  Speaker 3: So his dad was my manager when I broke into
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  Speaker 3: the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Jim was. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, back in the dinosaur days, I know
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  Speaker 1: you've got a, you got a joke right around the
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  Speaker 1: court for that, but, um, he, uh, his dad was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Dad's one of those really smart baseball guy back in
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  Speaker 1: the national league. And, We had, you know, Sean Green,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts, Ron Ventura. We had a really good team
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  Speaker 1: and made the playoffs. But his dad was really baseball savvy.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to him a little bit about that. He
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  Speaker 1: said his dad is paying attention a lot more to
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  Speaker 1: baseball than he was for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I bet.
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  Speaker 3: His dad's locked in on every game.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, bro, I... we were talking to him pregame, right?
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  Speaker 4: And we're in the manager's office. You know how we
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  Speaker 4: go in before when you're on the national broadcast, you
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  Speaker 4: go and you get about 20, 30 minutes with the
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  Speaker 4: manager one-on-one time. And it's intimate. And he was just
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  Speaker 4: telling us basically the communication that he has, I'm so
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  Speaker 4: impressed with. He's saying all the right things as a
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  Speaker 4: former player. Where early on, they were awful at challenging.
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  Speaker 4: And they would get their players together and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: this is where umpires tend to call strikes on you.
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  Speaker 4: Let's start challenging that. And like, these are the leveraged counts,
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  Speaker 4: communicating on challenging, communicating on, they swang a lot. They
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  Speaker 4: were swinging a lot early in the count just because
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  Speaker 4: it was early in the count. And they kind of
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  Speaker 4: got back to that old school Red Sox mentality where
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  Speaker 4: they're grinding pitchers out. And they talked about it and
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  Speaker 4: they met as a group and they met as a
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  Speaker 4: group for their identity. And all of these things he's saying,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, this is, I feel like For being
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  Speaker 4: a first-time manager in the position he's in, in Boston,
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  Speaker 4: where it's different with the media, the fact that he's
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  Speaker 4: communicating this well with his players is just really impressive,
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  Speaker 4: and you can see why they've turned around. He's at
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  Speaker 4: the head of the ship, and when the head is
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  Speaker 4: sturdy like he is, it trickles all the way down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the adversity he had to deal with when
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  Speaker 1: he first stepped in there.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of drama. They weren't good.
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  Speaker 4: They were terrible.
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  Speaker 3: They're terrible.
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  Speaker 4: They were terrible.
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  Speaker 3: And he was patient.
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  Speaker 4: Sell the team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wilson got 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: I remember him doing a lot of small stuff that
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  Speaker 1: made it on social media that felt like bringing that
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  Speaker 1: group together as a family, supporting Wilson and him getting
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  Speaker 1: 10 years this year. I think Sonny Gray had something
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  Speaker 1: special happen. It just felt like they were starting to.
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  Speaker 4: Sonny Gray is good, right? They thought he was going
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  Speaker 4: to be good.
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  Speaker 3: He's great. Sonny Gray.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 4: Garrett Crochet goes down. Their best pitcher, one of the
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  Speaker 4: best pitchers in the American League, down. Their left fielder,
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  Speaker 4: their star left fielder, Roman Anthony, gone, right? And he's
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  Speaker 4: doing this with guys that he had in AAA, so
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  Speaker 4: maybe that's an advantage because they know each other and
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  Speaker 4: they're more comfortable in the big leagues. But, man, that team,
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  Speaker 4: that team's, they got a deep bullpen, a really deep bullpen,
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  Speaker 4: and they're battle-tested, so they believe, they believe they can
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  Speaker 4: catch the Yankees. They believe that there's still enough time
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  Speaker 4: to win the division, so. Anything can happen. That's the
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  Speaker 4: beauty of this game. And this season right now is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's so much fun. And we're approaching September.
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  Speaker 3: It's right around the corner.
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  Speaker 1: And just the playoff race down to the end is
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  Speaker 1: just getting tighter and tighter. We've got to give the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees some love because I feel like their offense hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been just the typical Yankees. You think about the Bronx
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  Speaker 1: Bombers and those guys with Judge out and Stanton out
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  Speaker 1: and Belly. But the Yankees have been 11-6 since the
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  Speaker 1: trade deadline.
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  Speaker 3: The Red Sox 11-8.
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  Speaker 1: You would assume that, you know, the Red Sox were
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  Speaker 1: better because they were getting all the hype and they've
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  Speaker 1: turned it around.
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  Speaker 3: And that run they went on before the break. But
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  Speaker 3: the Yankees have held steady with that pitching staff they have.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited about the series this weekend, four-game set,
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  Speaker 1: because you've got two really good teams. Yankees flying under
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the radar somehow, but doing it with the pitching and
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: defense and some timely hitting and the.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: George Lombard Jr.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Coming up and being steady there, and we've talked about
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: that a little bit, but it's going to be an
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: exciting series because I think they've, you know, their offense
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: isn't the homer offense that we're used to, but they've
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: made some really good moves at the deadline to kind
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of piece it together, and when they get Judge back,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: that may be the best team in baseball for me
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: if he comes back.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: And is swinging well. Yeah, their pitching's deep. Fried's going
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: to be coming back. Weathers just went down, but I
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: think it's good news. He won't be down for too long.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: They're going to have the formula in the postseason where
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: they can move some starters to the bullpen. Clark Schmidt's
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: coming back. He can give them innings late, hopefully. Yeah,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, I think the American League really comes
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: down to two teams making it to the World Series.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I really feel like it's the Yankees or the Red
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Sox that are going to do it. Obviously, there's a
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: team that's going to get hot, but You look at
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: the American League.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: The Rays always fly on the radar.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I know, but I can't.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: They're good.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: The Rays are really good. The Rays just, for me,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: they just fly under the radar. They don't play in
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: these big magnitude games. I mean, I have a ton
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: of respect for the Rays because they always show up. But,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel like the Red Sox are
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: playing at such a high level and they're battle-tested. Not
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: to say every team isn't because every team goes through
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: their own adversity, right?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Sure. Well, and I think, like, the postseason's a different
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: beast until you prove it in the postseason.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: It's hard to get. Totally.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: That's why everybody just underestimates Milwaukee, right? Like, they haven't
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: done it in the postseason.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: They haven't done it, yeah.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: You got to go do it. You got to go
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: do it. Speaking of.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Speaking, adversity.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Adversity. There we go. See, we were on the same page, bro.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: It was third episode in. We're locked in.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Houston Astros, Dana Brown, gone. He gone. Jim Crane decided
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: to pull the plug on her GM. um they are
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: currently winning the al west with a losing record which
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: is crazy uh crazy this late in the season to
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: fire your gm is on a first place team on
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: a playoff contending team that's that's that's a head scratch.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah it gets you it gives you a
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: little glimpse inside you know what might be going on
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes obviously not good um you know when
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the owner has to take over baseball operations.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: They said he's going to be involved in pretty much
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: everything now.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: When I know he leans on, like he leans on
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Bagwell and Biggio, these guys that he keeps close to him.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Like being able to ask real players, but you know,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I was digging a little bit on that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Like what, it doesn't make any.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Sense, but like Houston was seven and 11 since the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: trade deadline and three and six at home, this last
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: homestand against teams under 500.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if it has.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Something to do where he feels like, Dana Brown didn't
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: do enough at the trade deadline or push forward.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: He pretty much did nothing. He went out and got
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Dart and Varsha. That's it, right?
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought they needed some pitching. I thought they
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: needed some starting pitching.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Everyone did.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It felt like there was a lot on there.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously, we're not in those conversations of what guys are
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: asking for. When people get fired, Jordan's a beast.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Triple crown MVP.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: That dude's an animal.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: That'll be interesting to see this offseason if a new
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: GM comes in and the direction that the Astros go in.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, the ALS is far from over. It's going
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to come down to probably the last day of the season.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, it feels like whatever team decides to get hot,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: which a team will get hot, is going to win
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: that division.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: So that's a head scratcher there. Our Cubbies had two
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: heartbreaks in Seattle.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: They got walked off back-to-back nights. Craig Council pulled Shota
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: early in that last game there. I believe he pulled
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: him in the second or third inning. And I kind
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: of liked it. I mean, Shota was struggling a little bit.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: The Cubs needed to win. You can't get swept there
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: in Seattle. You're out west, so. They end up putting
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: up 19 runs, so it's hard to lose when you
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: put up 19.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: That's like the lackey line.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: 12 runs in airtight defense, Rossi. I've never lost with it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Never lost, but how about Randy Rosarino?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: That was actually really good, but when you believe Andy, Randy,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, is freaking..
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Dude, two times in the history of the game, Rossi,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: where a guy leads off the game with a home
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: run and ends the game with a walk-off, and it
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: happened in the last week.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. It's only happened twice, and it happened in
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: one week in.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: The history of our game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: That's nice. That's nice.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Well, it just tells you the way the lineups are
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: constructed now with guys.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: It's not just speed. I know both those guys can run,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: but speed.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Like, it's not just speed in our game and the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: old school, like, guy that gets on base and fast
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and you got a guy that hits behind him and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: then all your power hitters come up three, four, five. Like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: now it's like, you better you better be locked in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: as a pitcher when you step on the ground. Real,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: real legit threat, power threat. I mean, Schwarbs, when he's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: leading off, like it's, there's, the game has changed. You
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: know what I thought about? Hold on, go back to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Schwarbs real quick, not to bounce around. But I thought
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: about you having Schwarbs lead off and you were like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. He should hit more RBIs.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And then he came up and hit that walk-off because
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he was the top of the order.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, there we go. There we go.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Rossi, listen.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I get those guys. I get those good players back
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: up to the top.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: You and I both know if you're trying to win
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: the game in the ninth inning or eighth inning on
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a daily basis, your team isn't very good.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: So it happened off. They walk off. You need walk-offs.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: But if you're trying to get your best player up
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: in the ninth inning to win a ball game every night,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: you're not a good team, okay?
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Good point, okay.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I'll never back down from it. I understand getting your
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: best players up. I just love that it happened.
• 20:43
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• 20:44
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  Speaker 4: Kobe's in Arizona, had a little drama last night. We
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: have a video of Merrill Kelly, maybe some sign stealing.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Relaying signs.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: We thought he had something on my changeup. We thought
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: he was giving, especially the lefties. Every time I was
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: throwing a changeup, we felt like he was relaying that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Is that something that you've experienced before?
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, you know, that's stealing signs is as
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: old as baseball. Um, I think it's a little bullshit
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: when it comes from a coach, you know, I think,
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: you know, if it's a guy on second base and
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: they see the grip in your glove, or if the
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: hitters can see something that you're doing with your glove,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: you know, I think that's fair game. I think guys
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: have been doing that since the beginning of baseball. Um,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: I think it's a little bush league when it comes
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: from outside that I think inside the lines is one thing.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: I think the guys that are standing outside the lines, um,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I think it's a little, I think it's a little
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: bush league.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Rossi, what do you, what do you got on that Rossi?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Man, listen, like, you know what? It's pretty good when
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: you're competing. It's free game for me, you know, like it,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if somebody's able to get your pitches, they're like, that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: on you, you know, you gotta be able to hide
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: as many cameras we have in the ballpark. Everybody's got
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the technology where they're, getting inside the glove from second
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: base and they've got the low, you know, they share
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: camera views.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: There's a low hole. There's a low home and a.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: High home camera view where you can see everything guys
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: are doing. And guys are trying to get any kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of edge they possibly can. Like I, you know, the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: people's like the integrity of the game, all that stuff's like, bro,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to win.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to win.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: What he was saying too was Quentin Berry, the Cubs,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: their base coach, he thinks was relaying change up to lefties. And,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, he's relaying. If you're giving it, we're taking it. Right?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: As an offensive guy, I know pitchers feel differently, obviously
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: as Merrill feels differently, but we're all between the lines.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: The dugout is between the lines.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Right? Once you get into that dugout, I know the
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: chalk is what they say is between the lines, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: this is an entire operation that's going on. And it takes,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: it doesn't just take the players to win games. It
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: takes an entire army. Every team is doing it. Every
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: team's doing it. That's right. And if you're a pitcher
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: now getting butthurt over people stealing signs, you're living under
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: a rock because you know every single team has their
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: own mechanisms of trying to find things. You need to
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: be on top of it. I know just through rumors,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Torrey Lovello is amazing at picking up signs here and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: there and pitches and what pitchers' tendencies. So every team's
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: doing it. I have zero problem with it. I'm happy
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: with the Cubs.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And I always think like, There's an easy fix. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't know until after the game
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: maybe or felt it in the game.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Well, no, they were chirping during the game. The dugouts
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: were going back and forth, and it's like, well, clean
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Hold a change up and then pick up and change
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: last minute and buzz somebody. I'll stop looking at my
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: third base coach if he calls change up and I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: get one at the dome. I might be like, okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: he missed that one. I can't trust that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's ways around it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Rossi, listen. pretty much my entire career. If a catcher
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: set up early inside on me, you know, uh, from
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: managing and playing together, I'd have someone in the dugout
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: scream something because I can start doing the math in
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: my head very quickly. If they're setting up inside, depending
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: on the count, it's pretty much a fastball. Now, if
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: they're setting up inside with two strikes and it's a one,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: two count or the way they, the way the, the
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: whole at bat took shape or place, it could be
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: a back foot slider, but if a catcher sets up
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: early inside on me, most of the time it's a fastball.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Why not? If, if the catcher is going to set
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: up early and give that away, why not get it?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Well, and that's the, and that's the thing about why
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: catchers set up later or, you know, I feel like
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this a hair, but like this setting
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: up middle for catchers now is so hard for me
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to get on board with because of how I caught.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: But like, there's a lot that goes into that.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, Nobody's stealing Tampa Bay signs because their
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: catcher's set up middle every pitch.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: You know, so either you can't... Rip it and rip it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you gotta, if you can't get it from
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the pitcher, you shouldn't be able to get it from
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the catcher, right? So you have to start eliminating ways
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of giving teams any advantage. And there's so many advantages
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you can give away and the good teams don't.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: There's so many tendencies that catchers do that it's almost
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: impossible not to give away. There's times where a catcher
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: you know, leans left and anytime he leans left first
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: and does anything, he's going right. Or anytime he puts
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: his glove down or anytime he touches his shin guard,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: it's these, these habits that they don't understand they're doing
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that people are getting paid to pick up these tendencies.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: So yeah, no doubt.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: It's, it's, I look as hitters, we need the edge
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: at every edge we can get. We got guys throwing 105.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I know Merrill Kelly isn't, isn't up there anymore. He's,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: he's in the lower 90. He's, he's kind of the, uh,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: abnormal starting pitcher now but he keeps getting it done
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: he's had a hell of a career especially playing in
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: japan but um the cub the cubs though they win
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: last night they play better which is crazy to me
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: against national league teams and american league teams they're terrible
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: against the al 55 and 32 against nl and what
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: are they against the al.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: AL, the Cubs are 21-24, and the Brewers are 27-15.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Shout out Chris Tran giving us these stats. The Cubs
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: have been better than the Brewers in the NL, but
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: the Brewers have dominated the AL at the 27-15 record,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and the Cubs are 21-24.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: That's hard to believe.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Isn't that weird? For me, that must just be the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: ebbs and flow of the season and their timing of
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: playing these teams because the American League is clearly down, right?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: You have a lot of teams under 500, the wildcard
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: race under 500. So just for me, for the Cubs,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: it's just probably one of those things where it's there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe they're getting up for the bigger games.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know. They're playing at a very high level
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: at Wrigley, which, which personally concerns me. Their, their levels
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that they're playing at are almost too high. I need
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: them to just, I don't want to see the Cubs
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: go on a 10 game winning streak. I just want
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: them to go eight and two, eight and two, seven
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: and three, just, Just be steady, Eddie, and then at
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: the end of the season when you get to the playoffs,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: that's when the emotions get as high as they need
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the good news is they don't have to play
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: any AL teams until the World Series when they get
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: The Cubbies, the future's looking bright for them. The Cubs
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: fans can get.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Excited about this postseason run they're going to get on.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I think, man, they're hitting it all at the right time.
• 28:31
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• 28:37
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• 28:38
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• 28:43
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• 28:48
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• 28:52
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• 28:57
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• 28:58
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• 29:00
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• 29:05
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• 29:08
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• 29:13
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• 29:16
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• 29:21
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• 29:24
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• 29:27
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• 29:28
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• 29:29
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• 29:30
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• 29:32
  Speaker 4: be on pace to hit his 25, like he always does.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: He's on fire. The Padres are rolling.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Machado's doing his thing. He's got 20 plus punts. Cronenworth's
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: swinging it better. Cronenworth's swinging it better. They go out.
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  Speaker 1: A.J.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Peller goes out and gets starting pitching at the deadline.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: They have a nasty bullpen. Again, we can talk any
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: single team in the NL. Right now, Rossi, it's lined
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: up that it's Dodgers-Padres in the first round. Wild card.
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  Speaker 3: Three games. Which is what we all... That's like... They
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: hate each other. You know they don't like is... I
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: think the.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Padres always feel like the Dodgers are the big brother
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and haven't been able to take the ball back.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: From them on the playground, you know? So... Yeah. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: they've got a star-studded... Like, the Padres... Well, A.J.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Preller's done. He's just put dudes at every position and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: real players and signs.
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  Speaker 4: He keeps doing it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Young guys. Yeah, he keeps doing it. He keeps doing it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And even with some pitching hurt, like you said, goes
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: out and gets the right guys that are established and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: know how to handle the moments. And it's a fun
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: team to root for, I've got to be honest. You know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: we both played in San Diego for a minute. What
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: a great fan base they've got. And it's picked up
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: so much more since we've been there. So, yeah, again,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it's fun to watch these teams and the guys that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: are got these resumes in the back of their baseball
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: cards starting to get back to what they normally do and.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Then take off.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: What they normally do. The guys on the back of
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the baseball card, that's exactly what you said. These superstars, man,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: they find ways. It's a 162-game grind. Look at Alex Bregman.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: The Cubs fans were ready to write off Bregman in
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: the first two months, and he's completely turned it around.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: It's a law of averages. You just keep playing the superstars.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: The good players in the game, they figure out ways
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to win And they figure out ways to get their numbers.
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• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Rossi, I was watching MLB Network and I saw the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: rookie of the year race for the NL and I
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: saw JJ Weatherholt as the clear favorite to win the
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: rookie of the year. And I'm sitting there, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: what about Sal Stewart, right? And I go pull up
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: the numbers, and I think, I mean, this is going
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: to come down to the wire here with Sal Stewart
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: and J.J. Weatherholt.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Bro, listen, I did Cubs cards, I guess, about a
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: week ago, and... you know, we get these packets and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: you're doing all your research and stuff. And there was
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a line in there that said the clear favorite is J.J.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Weatherholt for Rookie of the Year. And immediately in my mind,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I've done two Reds games. Sal Stewart fucking rakes, bro.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Rakes. Bro, he has 98 RBIs as a rookie.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And we're not even in September yet.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: He's going to end up with 110. He could end
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: up with 120 if he has a big September.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: And it's all big, like big hits.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Like if I could, you know, I know we're talking
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: about power is such a great in players and contact
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I love, but a dude that drives in runs, like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that's irreplaceable. And what he's doing offensively, like, no disrespect
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to J.J. Weatherholt, but I watched that same MLB network.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Mikey Lowell broke down, like, what are we even talking about? Like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: this guy is slash line at 263, 336, 472 slow,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: 27 homers, and leads all of baseball in RBIs.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: 806 OPS.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know how he doesn't win.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And he plays every day.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I love defense. I love defense. Love defense, right?
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Well, he's a decent first baseman as well. I always
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: got to give love to my first baseman.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just mean that's given J.J.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Weatherholt all the– being a shortstop and– sorry, second baseman
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and being so good up the middle. And I get
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: defense is great, and I love defense. But when you've
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: got a pure hitter that's a rookie and leading any
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: category in an offensive category– In baseball, like, I don't know, man.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: That was where my vote would go. And we still
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: got the rest of the season to play out. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: what Sal Stewart's.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Doing is a no-brainer.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: J.J.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Weatherholt's having a great year, right? He has 17 homers.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: He's got a 724 OPS. But I think this is
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: the topic that we always talk, like, war, right? He's
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: got 50 more RBIs.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: He's got 50 more RBIs than J.J.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Weatherholt.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: 50. That's where I don't understand. How is war factoring
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: in that JJ is such a better player via war
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: than Sal Stewart, right? That's where this war number is
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: so messed up, man. It's just people love to talk about, oh,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: his war, his F war, this war. It's like, bro,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: look at the player, right?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: It's just... I don't know.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: They're both good.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: It's, it's fun to have both great players.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm not trying to, we're not trying to
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: bash on, uh, guys.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Ali Marble speaks very highly of him. He, he grinds.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's come up and he's held his own bro.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: And it's not easy to hold your own as a rookie. So, um,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: they're both doing good.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The rest of both of them, I'm anxious to see the,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the race, uh, down the stretch and, and the national league, but, uh,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it's pretty, pretty impressive.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: I was locked up by Kevin McGonigal. I mean, he's just,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's just a clear favorite. He's, I mean, 283,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: 14 homers as a rookie, almost 80 walks. That's pretty crazy, Rossi.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I mean, what he's doing there, filling right in,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: has been really impressive.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: And, you know, you heard all the rumors about how
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: great this guy was in the minor leagues, and you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: never know how it's going to play out. But what
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: he's doing has been really impressive. The guys have started.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Scott Harris told me, he was like, wait till you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: see this McGonagall kid. Wait till you see this McGonagall kid. Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: And I'm always like, ah, the hype's not real.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think vet players are always like, ah, we'll
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: see how they do in the league. But the young
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: talent in our games coming up, and nothing is phasing
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: these guys.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: They handle moments.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like they go through so much as young
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: players and travel ball and all the showcases and playing
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: in the big stadiums that when they get in front
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: of these crowds and these big stadiums, they're not even phased.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, bro, there's only two other players to have a–
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: better on base percentage than him in their rookie year
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: in the last 15 years and that's Aaron Judge and
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Mike Trout so that's pretty good company I'm not comparing
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: them but.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Sure well I mean we start putting up those kind
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of numbers that's the thing that gets you in the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: right conversations is when you start comparing numbers to guys
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that were the best at the same time and go
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: on to have great careers and we know how much
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: we love that on base stat.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah This weekend, coming up, Rossi, we have, I
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: know we talked about it a little bit, but big
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: four-game set, Red Sox-Yankees. We both played in this rivalry.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: You were Red Sox, I was a Yankee. At Yankee Stadium,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: the Bronx is going to be electric. Who are you
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: giving the edge to right now?
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think I just like what the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yankees are doing right now as much as I want
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to pull for the Sox. Um, I just love that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: pitching staff is so sustainable and consistent. Uh, but like
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: a good store we were in, in 2013, we had a, uh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: a nice lead and the Yankees weren't very good. They,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: they didn't make the post season that year, but, um,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: we came in and they were one of the hottest
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: teams in baseball of the last month. And it was
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: our last series. And we had a four game set
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: as well at Yankee stadium. And it was one of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: those like, Hey, we better bring it. Cause you know, the,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the energy there is, is electric every time they play.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's in the race and not. And
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: we won three out of four games, I'll never forget.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And we beat Mariano twice. I think Knapp hit a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: home run to tie it late. And Daniel Nava got
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a big knock on one for us to go to extras.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And we ended up winning three of the four. But
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. we were tested in that moment. It's like, yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: we're playing great. We were in first place. We were
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: one of the best teams in baseball, but the Yankees
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: were one of the hottest teams in baseball. We went
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in there and it was a battle for four games.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And luckily we came out of there three or four.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: And I think that gave us the confidence that just
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: took us all the way to the World Series. But
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: when you're in those environments, I always said the American
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: League East, when you're, it's usually one of the, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this year, obviously it's a little bit down the American
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: League as a whole, but When you're in the American
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: League East in those environments, you're always playing playoff baseball.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And especially Red Sox, Yankees, being in that energy does
• 38:43
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• 38:45
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  Speaker 3: And then he just poses. Look at the pose.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Give me the pose.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: It was like a knight bowing down to the queen, bro.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Watch this. Just over the wall. And I love this
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: pose right here. Just down. Can't believe it. Pitch is excited.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: But the fact he takes the knee. Watch it one
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: more time. Goes up. Ben Attendee. Poor guy. And the
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: White Sox are rolling. But pose me. That's the finish there.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: They stuck the landing. I mean, that's a 10 out
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: of 10 for me, Riz. I don't know about you.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: but that is absolutely epic, bro.
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• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, man. And Ben Attendee, though. You said Ben Attendee.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: He's having a great year. Good bounce back year for
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the White Sox. Right in the middle of that lineup.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: You need your horses. And he's like that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He's now the veteran guy with all those young guys
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: around and signing that contract.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Going through some losing, struggling, like you said.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: And getting rewarded for going through the grind, as you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: did in Chicago for a long time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Been there.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I know what it's all about. Yeah, you've been there.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: That's got to feel good.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Let's get into our daily mailbag, our Tim Buss Ball
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Bag Questions of the Week, where Rossi and I answer questions.
• 40:10
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• 40:12
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• 40:17
  Speaker 4: some of the best questions of the week. We have
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: an email from Evan Newman. Oh, and we talked about this, Rossi.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: How do you view the war argument and how should
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: it be evaluated in MVP debates? Most notably, PCA and Otani.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: How has it affected your time as a player and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: manager analytically, statistically, and in contract negotiations?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had never looked at war.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I think that definitely like when you're dealing with offseason
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: contracts and stuff. But we're talking about Pete and Shohei.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I think Pete, I always kind of look
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: at it like the eyeball test. The numbers are great
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to put them side by side. But what's the eyeball
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: test and who's most important to their team, the most
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: valuable player? Like when Shohei's pitching, it's hard to argue
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: because he's doing something that nobody else is doing. And
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you can equate PCA's defense to that. obviously, but it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't compare to when he's starting and putting up a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: one seven ERA, you know, but Pete, for me right now,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and maybe there's a little bit of just like show.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: He's been the best for a long time. You get
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit of like, bored.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Shohei's having kind of his bored boring down year right
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: now which is crazy.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: And he already has like 80 innings of dominant pitching
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you know so the fact I've always I had this
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: debate and I'm gonna get off topic for a second
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: but like I listen to all these debates and stuff
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: is like what if you put Shohei's numbers in the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: closer role and took those innings like it would be
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: different if he was on the mound closing at 80
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: innings with a 1-7 and let's say 30 something saves Like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: people would be like, oh, it's not even close.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: It'd be Shohei. But the fact that because.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It was early in the season and it was starter innings, like,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it feels like a little bit it's linked to PCA.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: But with that being said, I love the– like, PCA
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: is must-watch TV. When I turn on the Cubs game,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that dude to come to play.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: So is Shohei, bro.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Shohei is. And maybe it's a little bit at West Coast.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: That's why this is going to be a great debate.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: It's going to be great.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But Pete's doing something special now, and his odds of
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: winning are higher than they've ever been. So– Um, I
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: think PCA, like if there was a vote right now,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I think PCA wins it. But I, you know, my
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: manager brain goes, bro, uh, like I would rather have
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Shohei on my team, which is nuts.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: As far as the war goes, it's the war. I
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: think you have two guys here that the war is just, it's,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: it's a stat that if front offices want to look
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: at that stat and use it as a good thing,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: they can, if they want to use it a bad thing,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: they can't. Someone just told me, I had the Astros
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Mariners last week, right? And I believe they asked the
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Mariners GM about Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor steals over 20
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: bags a year now. And they say, does that factor
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: into his contract, right? And he says, no. And my opinion, why?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Because he plays first base and he's a big guy?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: 20 bags is 20 bags. It's not easy to steal
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: 20 stolen bases. So these teams pick what they want
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: to look at. And if a guy's a high war player,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: they could justify it. If he's a low war player,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: they it's, There's just, the war stat is just, can
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: we get rid of it, please? Yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I just love, like, we all like guys with
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: high baseball IQ and they find moments.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Those are what we call winning players, right?
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: And I want more of those guys on my team.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I want as many of those guys on my team
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: as I possibly can. Again, taking advantage of anything I see,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and you're going to fall asleep on me because I'm
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a first baseman and I'm a.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Heavyset power hitter.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Like, go ahead. Yeah, that's fine.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Rossi, there's guys, and you know, in front offices, they
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: value war. One war is like $ 10 to $ 12 million.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: that's what they value war at, which is how can
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: you value a stat that much? That's, to me, is crazy.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: We put numbers on everything. We put numbers on everything. Evan,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: thank you for the question.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Good question.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I hope we answered it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I got to know what Thomas, let me, this one's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: for you. I'm going to let you do this one first.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: We got an email from Thomas Temple. Rizzo, did you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: guys ever get in an argument when David Ross, myself,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was your manager for the year and a half.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Do we get any arguments?
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: There was a few. I think there was one. I mean,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: there was one time Lester and I came to your room,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I think in St. Louis, just to hang out and
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: check in on you to make sure you're doing all right. Because,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: you know, the manager spot's different and all the history
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: we had. There was one team meeting where Rossi was
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: going crazy on us. It was one of the first
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: times he flew up on the team. And he's telling us,
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  Speaker 4: you guys got to compete. And he's like getting all
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: loud and screaming at us. And I'm sitting in my
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: locker doing everything I can not to laugh because I
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: know David Ross is David Ross. And I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: video him. And right after the meeting, I go, bro,
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  Speaker 4: it took me everything not to take my phone out
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  Speaker 4: and start recording you.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I would have killed you, bro.
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  Speaker 3: I was just seeing red.
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  Speaker 1: I think like Javi guy had picked off that game
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: or something and we were just like, you know, I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: think it was 21 or maybe 20. We just were
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: kind of just lulling and guys thinking about their numbers
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And I was like, bro, we
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: just got to compete.
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  Speaker 4: The easy part for me as a player was I
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: pretty much hit third or fourth every single day and
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: played first base. So there wasn't a lot of interactions happening.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: negative or positive with the manager it was always just
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: friendly for the most part because i knew my.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Relationship yeah and our relationship i i leaned on you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: guys you lester lester lester leaves it wrong but you
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: have strong opinions and takes nico was a really good
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: young guy to bounce things off of jay was always
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: just shoot me straight you know like if i think
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  Speaker 1: when i managed and i first got in the seat
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it was it was such a like i hope i'm
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: doing this right i'm trying my best and i know
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  Speaker 1: these guys but Let me ask the guys.
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  Speaker 3: They know me as good as anybody. Let me ask
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  Speaker 3: the boys that I've been to battle with. And that's
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: what was great about managing.
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  Speaker 1: I remember there were so many questions when I got
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that job about, how are you going to be hard
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  Speaker 1: on these guys?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to be able to manage them?
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I could tell you how you'd be hard unless
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: you just fucking traded all of us.
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  Speaker 3: I did that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Shout out, Jen.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out, Jen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 1: One more.
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  Speaker 4: Our last ball bag question of the week is from
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  Speaker 4: Brad Barber. As a player, how much did your history
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: against a player or team affect you as you prepared
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  Speaker 4: for slash took you at bat?
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  Speaker 3: It's a good question.
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  Speaker 4: Josh, I think this is a good one for you
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  Speaker 4: to start, especially as a catcher.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really good. Well, you want to find
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the history in your pitcher.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: The thing that people don't know, first of all, front
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: offices don't value the history, the matchups, right? It doesn't
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: matter if you're hitting 1,000 off a guy and you
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: see him well. They feel like the law of averages
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: are going to come back. So that's always a tough
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  Speaker 1: little battle. But the thing about managing and catching is
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that the pitcher knows and the hitters knows. You know
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the guys that you saw well. And when you got
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in the box, you're like, I own this guy. There's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: nothing he can do to get me out. immediately you're
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a better hitter when you get in the box.
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  Speaker 3: With that mindset.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Versus like, I've never gotten a hit off this freaking guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this guy owns me and I'm just trying
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  Speaker 1: to grind right now.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a different kind of defensive mindset versus offensive.
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  Speaker 1: So the matchups matter. And then I always, when I caught,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you would go over.
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  Speaker 3: The scouting report with Lester or early in my career,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: whoever that was. And yeah, immediately you.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Did catch other guys other than yeah well i'll tell.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: You one i'll tell you one that was really funny
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: uh i was in atlanta and we played the twins
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and tim hudson will go to our pre-game meeting he's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like bro jim tommy owns me he's like he hits
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: me freaking so well it's a left center homer or
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: double in the gap every time and so i'm like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: well honey that makes sense like so i i i
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: did a good job of reading swings is what i
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: did So Jim Tomey had this, like, left center power,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: let the ball get deep.
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  Speaker 3: And that's right into Huddy's beautiful swing. And big time power.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: He would get in the box. His shoe was this
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: freaking big. He's a man.
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite human beings on earth.
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  Speaker 1: And Huddy would throw him two seamers, was right into
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the barrel. So we just started fours in and cutters in.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And I think he walked him once, but we got
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: him out two other times. And a little bit of that, like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: trying to change their mindset and doing stuff. But my
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: point to that is pitchers know when guys own them.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: They get scared.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: Tommy was nine for 18 off Hudson with four homers.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Is that good? There you go.
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  Speaker 3: 500 average. That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: For me, it definitely helps. I think anytime you face
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: a pitcher and you get history and you log stuff
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: in your own brain, whether you have hits off him
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: or not, it always plays into your favor. Especially, I
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: always go, who is catching as well? What team, the tendencies? But, man,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: the mental battle for me is if I had good
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: numbers off a guy and I was scuffling, I would
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: go into that game saying, fuck man, if I don't
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: get a hit off of this guy, how bad am I? Right.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Cause I have great numbers off them. And then you
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: go into the games where it's like, you're facing the
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Scherzers or Kershaw's or Strasburg's and all these elite pitchers
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: to Rom. And, oh, I got no chance today. And
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: you end up getting two hits. So, it's a funny game.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: It's a mental game. The mental aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's the biggest factor of the matchups.
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  Speaker 1: It's like both guys know mentally what they've done.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, totally.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: There's guys that knew they owned me and I got
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: a hit off of them. I remember I hit a
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: home run, a two-strike home run off. Chase Anderson. Chase
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Anderson owned me. I have three hits off of him.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: One is a bunt single. Another one, I don't even
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: know if I did.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: You know a guy owns you and you start butting
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: on him.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Exactly. And I clipped him late in my career. And
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: I hit a home run off him. It was like
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: a two-strike choked up just over the yellow line in
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Milwaukee home run. And I loved it. But he knew
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: he owned me. It's a battle. I had good at-bats
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: off him, but he got me out every time it
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: seemed like. Yes, the history does help. And it does
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: help repairing. Rossi, I know you got a tee time
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: there in Pebble. Hopefully you've We're going to have to
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: post your score on this or post.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: It to our feed. Yeah, we'll tune back in next week.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: No big deal, too. I know Bill Murray's there. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: know you've got a lot of celebrities there. It's for
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Steph Curry's charity?
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Steph Curry's charity event, yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I've heard of him. He's a good basketball player, right?
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Eat, Learn, Play is his charity, and they partner with
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: DGDG Does Good.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: It's up here in the Bay Area. They support all
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: the charities, and I know you're big.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: You've got your charity, and it's nice to do some
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: fun stuff.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Amazing night. It's been such a great event, and I'm
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: lucky to be here. There's Roger Clemens, Greg Maddox, and
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: then they're like, David Ross, who's that? Was that Dancing
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: with the Stars guy? Who's that guy? Who's that guy?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: But it's been fun so far, bro. It's been fun.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Well, thanks, everyone, for watching another episode of Ross and
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Rizzo Unfiltered. Again, leave a comment on YouTube or email
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: us at rossandrizzo at gmail.com. We will read some questions
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: next week. Part of our Tim Buss weekly ball bag.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you guys next week.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Peace. Love ya.