Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 6th May 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday's sixth and May twenty twenty six,
- 0:11Speaker 1: just after one o'clock walk in the UK call him News,
- 0:13Speaker 1: I mean your host Mac Robinson. Joining me in the
- 0:14Speaker 1: studio today is Charles Mallett and by video link from Lebanon.
- 0:18Speaker 1: As usual we have Vanessa, Billy and I Letter in
- 0:21Speaker 1: the program. Charles will be reporting on how Britain streets
- 0:23Speaker 1: are being made siffer and the new British interceptor missiles
- 0:26Speaker 1: which are claimed to be a huge success from one
- 0:28Speaker 1: small business here. Vanessa will be reporting on the embryotic
- 0:32Speaker 1: British is really tech hub being built right beside GCXQ
- 0:36Speaker 1: in Gloucestershire. And I'm going to bring some focus on
- 0:38Speaker 1: how the COVID era psychological operations are being used to
- 0:42Speaker 1: drive support for the war agenda. But we're going to
- 0:44Speaker 1: begin today with anti Semitism. The Goldish Green stabbing of
- 0:49Speaker 1: last week is the gift that keeps on giving for
- 0:51Speaker 1: Keir Starmer and his government, apparently because the immediate response
- 0:56Speaker 1: which I reported about on Friday has been followed up
- 0:59Speaker 1: with even more than men into Shabanama Mood's famous punopticon.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, Starmer gave a speech at Dining Street
- 1:07Speaker 1: in front of so called leaders from the business, civil society, health, culture,
- 1:11Speaker 1: higher education, and policing sectors. And it could have go
- 1:15Speaker 1: into a bit of detail about what he said. So
- 1:17Speaker 1: this is the first little bit. These disgusting attacks, he said,
- 1:22Speaker 1: are being made against British Jews. But make no mistake
- 1:25Speaker 1: this crisis, it is a crisis for all of us.
- 1:28Speaker 1: It's a test of our values. He said. It's not
- 1:31Speaker 1: enough to simply say we stand with Jewish communities. Of
- 1:33Speaker 1: course we do, but we have to show that with action,
- 1:37Speaker 1: and that responsibility lies with each and every one of
- 1:41Speaker 1: us because it's our fight too. It's about the kind
- 1:44Speaker 1: of country that we all want to be, and that's
- 1:47Speaker 1: what today is about, because only by working together can
- 1:50Speaker 1: we eradicate anti Semitism from every corner of society. And
- 1:54Speaker 1: of course he went on to then name Iran or
- 1:58Speaker 1: any other countries that Mike might seek to ferment violence,
- 2:02Speaker 1: hatred or division in society, and it's not going to
- 2:05Speaker 1: be tolerated. And we can assume that he was referring
- 2:08Speaker 1: to Russia there perhaps, and he said, and we're clear
- 2:12Speaker 1: eyed about the fact that anti Semitism does not have
- 2:15Speaker 1: one source alone. Islamist, far left and far right extremism
- 2:20Speaker 1: all targets Jewish communities. So we're all in it, Charles,
- 2:23Speaker 1: We're all in it together. Apparently, this is why government
- 2:27Speaker 1: has put in place the first coordinated national plan to
- 2:30Speaker 1: strength and cohesion and confront extremism in all its forms.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Now we'll come back to this plan in a couple
- 2:36Speaker 1: of minutes, in a minute or two, but he went
- 2:39Speaker 1: on to say this is not about tinkering around the edges.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Our plan is a complete step change in how we
- 2:45Speaker 1: protect communities. In fact, he said actually saying there how
- 2:49Speaker 1: we protect one community because this isn't about any other
- 2:53Speaker 1: community as far as I can see. He went on
- 2:56Speaker 1: to say, we're holding technology companies to account, requiring them
- 3:00Speaker 1: to remove illegal extremist content or face serious penalties. And
- 3:05Speaker 1: we've introduced stronger powers to deal with protests, ensuring intimidation
- 3:10Speaker 1: is not tolerated on our streets and on our schools
- 3:13Speaker 1: and colleges and universities. We're investing seven million points to
- 3:16Speaker 1: tackle anti Semitism while making sure a Holocaust education is
- 3:21Speaker 1: taught in all schools. And today we're going further. We
- 3:25Speaker 1: already expect universities to set out clear disciplinary consequences for
- 3:28Speaker 1: anti semitism and to enforce them. And so we will
- 3:33Speaker 1: hold them to account on that. It seems like a
- 3:36Speaker 1: long way to go just to shut David Miller up,
- 3:38Speaker 1: but anyway, we'll talk more about that in a second.
- 3:41Speaker 1: But today I can announce that we will lift he said,
- 3:44Speaker 1: we will lift the bar higher when abuses take place.
- 3:47Speaker 1: We're calling on universities to demonstrate action. We will now
- 3:50Speaker 1: expect them to publish the skill of the problem on
- 3:53Speaker 1: their campuses as well as the specific steps of taking
- 3:56Speaker 1: this clamp down on it. There'll be zero toller urrants
- 4:00Speaker 1: for inaction. And he didn't leave it there. Our cultural venues,
- 4:05Speaker 1: he said, and spaces we will also expect more there
- 4:09Speaker 1: Where public funding is being used to promote our platform
- 4:12Speaker 1: anti semitism. The Arts Council must act, using its part
- 4:16Speaker 1: to suspend, withdraw and clawback funding. And today we're mandating
- 4:21Speaker 1: an independent audit of how allegations are handled. This will
- 4:25Speaker 1: be a hard edged review of where systems are failing
- 4:28Speaker 1: and where they need to be strengthened. So the question
- 4:33Speaker 1: in my mind is what is this first coordinated national
- 4:37Speaker 1: plan to strength and cohesion and confront extremism that he mentioned, Well,
- 4:41Speaker 1: it's called protecting what matters towards a more confident, cohesive
- 4:46Speaker 1: and resilient United Kingdom, and it's all about mind control.
- 4:50Speaker 1: And so we'll just run through what they're talking about here.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Up to five point eight billion pounds committed across almost
- 4:57Speaker 1: three hundred places, including up eight hundred million over ten
- 5:02Speaker 1: years for forty further areas under the Pride and Place program. Now,
- 5:06Speaker 1: you talked about this a few weeks ago, Charles I did.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I mean, I think with all of this, it's just
- 5:12Speaker 2: interesting that you can sort of throw a certain amount
- 5:14Speaker 2: of money at something like anti semitism or indeed community
- 5:18Speaker 2: cohesion and expect that will solve the problem.
- 5:20Speaker 1: But of course it isn't going to solve any problems.
- 5:22Speaker 1: What they're doing is they're using this money to further
- 5:24Speaker 1: their agenda, and they're using anti Semitism as the mechanism
- 5:28Speaker 1: to justify that. And that's the point of this segment.
- 5:31Speaker 1: So if we bring that back on screen, up to
- 5:33Speaker 1: five million pounds in twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven
- 5:36Speaker 1: for the Common Ground Resilience Fund for Cohesion and Integration
- 5:40Speaker 1: interventions so this is all about intervening. A new Social
- 5:44Speaker 1: Cohesion Task Force to coordinate policy areas across departments with
- 5:48Speaker 1: annual progress updates. Strengthened Charity Commission pars to close down
- 5:54Speaker 1: charities promoting extremism, new pars to stop hit preachers entering
- 5:58Speaker 1: the UK and an annual State of Extremism report embedding
- 6:03Speaker 1: the previous government's twenty twenty four extremism definition across Whitehall
- 6:07Speaker 1: working with police and frontline partners. Adoption of a non
- 6:11Speaker 1: statutory definition of anti Muslim hostility with a forthcoming Anti
- 6:15Speaker 1: Muslim Hostiliti czar. We've got to divide and conquer here.
- 6:19Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a bit more later. An earned
- 6:22Speaker 1: settlement framework requiring migrants typically to spend ten years in
- 6:25Speaker 1: the UK before qualifying for permanent settlement. A first ever
- 6:29Speaker 1: mandatory register of children not in school, with stronger oversight
- 6:33Speaker 1: of home education because we've got to make sure that
- 6:35Speaker 1: they get the same indoctrination as everybody else. A social
- 6:39Speaker 1: Cohesian measurement framework and across government integration strategy and the
- 6:44Speaker 1: Use of Online Safety Act twenty twenty three powers against platforms,
- 6:48Speaker 1: including looking at user control over algorithms and On top
- 6:53Speaker 1: of this, they've announced a further one million pounds for
- 6:56Speaker 1: Jewish communities, not that one, just take that and again
- 7:00Speaker 1: yet one million points for reduced communities to tackle anti
- 7:03Speaker 1: Semitism and strengthen community cohesion in those places facing the
- 7:07Speaker 1: greatest risk. And that's an immediate five hundred thousand pounds
- 7:11Speaker 1: being allocated to Barnet Council, for example, to reflect serious
- 7:15Speaker 1: anti Semitic incidents in the borough and and the large
- 7:18Speaker 1: number of Jewish residents there. And this expands the Ministry
- 7:23Speaker 1: of Housing, Communities and Local Government's Common Grind program, which
- 7:26Speaker 1: is already providing more than four hundred, sorry more than
- 7:29Speaker 1: four million pounds to communities across the country. The investment
- 7:34Speaker 1: is in addition to the twenty five million points a
- 7:37Speaker 1: nice last week that we mentioned on Friday to boost
- 7:40Speaker 1: police patrols, specialist officers and protective security for Jewish communities,
- 7:45Speaker 1: taking total funding to fifty eight million pounds, as well
- 7:48Speaker 1: as seven million pounds to tackle anti semitism schools, colleges
- 7:52Speaker 1: and universities we mentioned a couple of seconds ago, and
- 7:55Speaker 1: finally for now you've got a preview of it. But
- 7:57Speaker 1: here it is the crime prosecution of this announcement that
- 8:00Speaker 1: hit crime prosecutions are to be fast tracked, and it
- 8:06Speaker 1: says here that where that threshold for prosecution is satisfied
- 8:09Speaker 1: and a prosecution decision should not be delayed, it says
- 8:14Speaker 1: that it is important that the Jewish community has confidence
- 8:17Speaker 1: that if these incidents are reported, action will be taken
- 8:21Speaker 1: and swiftly. So it is quite incredible to me, Charles
- 8:25Speaker 1: and Vanessa that whatever happened over with the burning of
- 8:29Speaker 1: the ambulances and the stabbings last week, this is absolutely
- 8:33Speaker 1: and very cynically being used to justify the increasing surveillance,
- 8:40Speaker 1: restrictions on speech, restrictions on protest and so on, all
- 8:44Speaker 1: the agenda items that this government, in fact the previous
- 8:47Speaker 1: one as well, have been working towards, and they're cynically
- 8:50Speaker 1: using the Jewish community to justify it.
- 8:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, creating division and calling occasion.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Right, It's quite the trick, more an extra charge. Let's
- 9:01Speaker 1: move on then to the capability that Britain has for
- 9:05Speaker 1: creating new missiles.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Indeed, the capability that Britain is describing itself as having,
- 9:10Speaker 2: which is not quite the whole story. So we just
- 9:12Speaker 2: look at the mod announcement that came out just a
- 9:15Speaker 2: couple of days ago, the new interceptor missile successfully tested
- 9:18Speaker 2: in the Middle East as Defense Minister visits region. Well,
- 9:21Speaker 2: that's Luke Pollard and we'll just have a look at
- 9:23Speaker 2: what he said from the hangar that he appeared to
- 9:26Speaker 2: be in.
- 9:28Speaker 4: I'm here in Jordan, where today I've witnessed a successful
- 9:31Speaker 4: life firing test of the new Skyhammer missile. Skyhammer from
- 9:36Speaker 4: Cambridge Aerospace is a brilliant example of how we're refusing
- 9:40Speaker 4: brilliant British ingenuity, a veteran startup now Britain's next defense
- 9:45Speaker 4: unicorn with cutting edge technology against a proven adversary threat.
- 9:50Speaker 4: So this is al of a Skyhammer missile. It's been
- 9:53Speaker 4: designed to take down the Shaheed style attack drones that
- 9:56Speaker 4: we're seeing attacking our allies in the region. Is cutting
- 10:00Speaker 4: edge technology and that's why the United Kingdom has brought
- 10:03Speaker 4: dis missile for our own armed forces. It's proving that
- 10:07Speaker 4: defense is an engine for growth and equipping the men
- 10:10Speaker 4: and women of our armed forces with the very latest
- 10:13Speaker 4: equipment that helps keep Britain and our allies safe in
- 10:16Speaker 4: a more dangerous world.
- 10:21Speaker 2: So if it does work as described, then it does.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Indeed provide what would be described as an asymmetric capability
- 10:28Speaker 2: in that for very little cost and indeed small bit
- 10:31Speaker 2: of equipment, it can knock out something that's much bigger
- 10:33Speaker 2: and more expensive, which is basically exactly what the Iranians
- 10:36Speaker 2: have been doing for the last couple of months. And
- 10:38Speaker 2: so this looks like the British are catching up. But
- 10:41Speaker 2: of course, as you heard him say, they have bought
- 10:44Speaker 2: it for the British Army, which means that it is
- 10:46Speaker 2: in effect off it's been procured off the open market,
- 10:50Speaker 2: and for him to describe this as a British startup,
- 10:53Speaker 2: it sort of suggests that this was designed to order,
- 10:56Speaker 2: which is actually not the case at all.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Now.
- 10:58Speaker 2: As for came Bridge Aerospace itself, it's only been in
- 11:02Speaker 2: existence since twenty twenty four, and you heard Luke Pollard
- 11:06Speaker 2: there describe it as being a veteran startup. The mod
- 11:11Speaker 2: and their press releases about it described it as both
- 11:13Speaker 2: being veteran led and veteran phoned it, but they didn't
- 11:16Speaker 2: go on to qualify exactly what this means or who
- 11:19Speaker 2: we are referring to when this is talked about now,
- 11:24Speaker 2: just to give an indication of how communications with government
- 11:29Speaker 2: departments work and some of the frustrations and indeed the
- 11:33Speaker 2: inadequacies of government media departments. So I just thought i'd
- 11:36Speaker 2: show you an exchange I've had with the Ministry of
- 11:38Speaker 2: Defense Press Office because I thought it was significant to
- 11:41Speaker 2: understand who the veteran that's being referred to was, and
- 11:45Speaker 2: therefore I wrote last night MOD has variously referred to
- 11:48Speaker 2: Cambridge Erry Space as being veteran funded and veteran led.
- 11:51Speaker 2: May I ask that you qualify these statements piece as
- 11:53Speaker 2: there is no further information on the company website or
- 11:56Speaker 2: in the MOD press releases which of the company's founders
- 11:59Speaker 2: is a veteran of which service is he or she
- 12:01Speaker 2: a veteran?
- 12:02Speaker 3: And the reply.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Which came back, admittedly relatively quickly, was one of the
- 12:08Speaker 2: founders of the company is a veteran. Now that is
- 12:12Speaker 2: the level of communication that one has to deal with
- 12:16Speaker 2: as a researcher, as a reporter for UK column, and
- 12:20Speaker 2: I dare say were I working for the BBC, the
- 12:23Speaker 2: outcome might be slightly different. Anyway, I've gone to point
- 12:27Speaker 2: out that the founder, in so far as we are
- 12:30Speaker 2: able to discern, is Stephen Barrett shown here on LinkedIn,
- 12:35Speaker 2: and he is absolutely certainly not a veteran of certainly
- 12:39Speaker 2: of any part of the enforces. He's effectively a career academic.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Not there's any issue with that, of course, but if
- 12:45Speaker 2: they are going to describe it as a veteran startup,
- 12:47Speaker 2: then they should really be able to reinforce that.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Now, again the.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Suggestion that it is a plucky little startup is not
- 12:55Speaker 2: quite the whole story, because of course, in utch fact,
- 12:58Speaker 2: it's received huge funding from D three Venture Capital and
- 13:03Speaker 2: they describe themselves as providing funding for those who dared
- 13:08Speaker 2: to defend democracy, founders who dare or dare to defend democracy.
- 13:13Speaker 2: So where I would say this points back to is
- 13:16Speaker 2: the narrative around Ukraine in particular being so laden with emotion.
- 13:20Speaker 2: And this is exactly where it's been going. It's enabling
- 13:23Speaker 2: companies and corporations to dress up almost any activity, no
- 13:26Speaker 2: matter how destructive, it actually turns out to be as
- 13:29Speaker 2: consistent with their ESG goals, and that's environment, social and governance.
- 13:33Speaker 2: And this is done by slapping a defensive label on it.
- 13:37Speaker 2: So the point of this projectile is that it's described
- 13:40Speaker 2: as carrying out defensive action. Therefore, it absolutely stands to
- 13:44Speaker 2: reason that nobody would have any issue with putting their
- 13:46Speaker 2: money behind it, and it also explains Starmer's choice of
- 13:50Speaker 2: words since February of this year. Now, of the many
- 13:53Speaker 2: fingers in the D three PI, a notable one belongs
- 13:55Speaker 2: to Eric Schmidt, the founder of Google. And this is
- 13:59Speaker 2: why the questions I asked of Skyhammer, sorry, of Cambridge Aerospace,
- 14:04Speaker 2: I asked them specifically where they have any restrictions on
- 14:07Speaker 2: sales to any other countries. And this is why it
- 14:11Speaker 2: would be relevant because of course Eric Schmidt has many
- 14:13Speaker 2: links to businesses in Israel, and he's actively engaged in
- 14:17Speaker 2: the development of technology in China, which is of course
- 14:20Speaker 2: becoming an increasingly interested party in the Iran conflicts. Now
- 14:24Speaker 2: we'll just listen to what Schmidt. Sorry I've missed a slide.
- 14:29Speaker 2: We'll just have a look at this from the D
- 14:32Speaker 2: three website. Critically, as I say, with the emotive language
- 14:36Speaker 2: around Ukraine, they wanted to launch an initiative that would
- 14:39Speaker 2: support innovators from around the world who help Ukraine protect
- 14:43Speaker 2: and advance its democracy through technology. So this is the
- 14:49Speaker 2: sort of train of thought, and with that in mind,
- 14:52Speaker 2: we'll just listen to what Eric Schmidt said about his
- 14:56Speaker 2: perception of China and the development of technology versus that
- 15:00Speaker 2: done in America.
- 15:02Speaker 5: The American competitor, not enemy, but competitor is China. How
- 15:07Speaker 5: to understand them as a competitor. They have lots of money,
- 15:11Speaker 5: They're very, very smart, their work ethic is equal or
- 15:14Speaker 5: stronger than ours, and they dominate key industries right with
- 15:20Speaker 5: respectro robotics. We somehow decided it was okay for them
- 15:25Speaker 5: to dominate the electric vehicle industry. This was an error,
- 15:29Speaker 5: to be very clear, it's an error. Why do you
- 15:31Speaker 5: not understand it's an error because we don't allow their
- 15:34Speaker 5: cars in spend some time outside of this country in
- 15:37Speaker 5: Chinese cars. Trust me, they are real competitors. They've done
- 15:41Speaker 5: a great job as I understand it. China is capable
- 15:45Speaker 5: of vertical integration and build these gigafactories at a scale
- 15:49Speaker 5: that we can't for all sorts of reasons. That's got
- 15:52Speaker 5: to get addressed. So if you want to compete, and
- 15:54Speaker 5: I want to compete and win with China, and I compete,
- 15:58Speaker 5: not enemy. I want us to have the same kind
- 16:00Speaker 5: of system.
- 16:04Speaker 2: I think this is showing us a new dimension to
- 16:06Speaker 2: the idea that there's a whole of society approach to warfare,
- 16:09Speaker 2: and I think it be something we'll absolutely have to
- 16:11Speaker 2: talk about in extra absolutely.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Okay, let's welcome Vanessa to the program, and Vanessa back
- 16:19Speaker 1: to Israel's part of everything these days, it seems back
- 16:23Speaker 1: to the UK and the UK Roadmap for UK Israel Relations.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:30Speaker 6: I started actually looking more deeply into the twenty thirty
- 16:35Speaker 6: Roadmap for UK Israeli Bilateral Relations, which was published under
- 16:40Speaker 6: the twenty twenty two to twenty four Sunak Conservative government,
- 16:44Speaker 6: but however has not been either rescinded or reevaluated since
- 16:50Speaker 6: October the seventh, and the escalation of genocide against Palestinians
- 16:54Speaker 6: and Gaza and of course now in West Banks for
- 16:56Speaker 6: Kiostama has done nothing to alter the strength of this
- 17:01Speaker 6: document as regards forging relations to facilitate the expansion of
- 17:07Speaker 6: Israeli interests into the UK. So I just wanted today
- 17:12Speaker 6: to look at the section on cyber strategy. So this
- 17:17Speaker 6: is number five in the document. Here they talk about
- 17:22Speaker 6: increasing threats in cyberspace. Cooperation between Israel and the UK
- 17:26Speaker 6: is vital in order to counter efforts by malign forces.
- 17:30Speaker 6: I will remind everyone that it was Pegasus spyware back
- 17:35Speaker 6: in twenty twenty twenty twenty one that actually infiltrated four
- 17:39Speaker 6: hundred British citizen phones, including politicians. Israel and the UK
- 17:45Speaker 6: recognize and appreciate the importance of mutual cooperation on cybersecurity
- 17:50Speaker 6: and resilience, with the UK recently elevating Israel to a
- 17:55Speaker 6: Tier one cyber partner and unlocking the potential for further
- 18:00Speaker 6: co operation. Well, let's have a look at this further
- 18:03Speaker 6: cooperation cyber startups and prosperity, prioritizing increased links between Israeli startups,
- 18:10Speaker 6: which of course predominantly include members of Unit eight two hundred,
- 18:14Speaker 6: as we've been demonstrating at UK column and the UK
- 18:19Speaker 6: ecosystem promoting the Golden Valley development in Gloucestershire. A diit.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I didn't look that up, so.
- 18:26Speaker 6: I don't know what it means. High Potential opportunity HPO
- 18:30Speaker 6: program with Israeli investment and direct collaboration working towards the
- 18:34Speaker 6: creation of a cybercentral hub in Beersheva. Continuing they her
- 18:40Speaker 6: competition linking female Israeli cyber entrepreneurs with UK investors and
- 18:47Speaker 6: partners as an annual event. So actually here basically enabling
- 18:53Speaker 6: the infiltration of cyber strategy, cyber warfare, cyber defense in
- 18:58Speaker 6: the UK, bar members of Unit eight two hundred and
- 19:03Speaker 6: other tech elements within Israel itself, while of course they're
- 19:08Speaker 6: still committing genocide. So this is Golden Valley set course
- 19:13Speaker 6: for the next phase with the Advisory Board unveiled at
- 19:16Speaker 6: Cyber UK. They're in the first stage of development. Charles,
- 19:21Speaker 6: I know that you said that you had visited the
- 19:23Speaker 6: actual terrain where they're supposed to be sort of developing
- 19:27Speaker 6: this entire project, and so for it just seems to
- 19:30Speaker 6: be a bit of a building site. But anyway, let's
- 19:33Speaker 6: have a look at the plan's approval first phase and
- 19:38Speaker 6: the advisory board itself. And the advisory board itself includes Sorry, Yes,
- 19:44Speaker 6: thank you, is formed of key projects stakeholders, extended to
- 19:48Speaker 6: add valuable independent expert advisors, which include Dame Claire Marchant, DBE,
- 19:53Speaker 6: Vice Chancellor and CEO of the University of Gloucestershire, Professor
- 19:57Speaker 6: Philbada and former British PLMAT member of the MIT Management
- 20:02Speaker 6: School Faculty and visiting professor at Lufborough University, London, and
- 20:08Speaker 6: Marcus Willetts, cbobe's senior advisor at the International Institute for
- 20:13Speaker 6: Strategic Studies and former deputy head of GHQ. It's worth
- 20:19Speaker 6: noting that they also met during the event with Ankeis Butler,
- 20:23Speaker 6: the current director of GCHQ. And then if we can
- 20:29Speaker 6: look at what it's actually going to culminate into being.
- 20:33Speaker 6: With its unique combination of location, partners and ambition, Golden
- 20:38Speaker 6: Valley is set to become a globally significant cluster for innovation,
- 20:43Speaker 6: driving collaboration investment from across the world, predominantly from Israel
- 20:47Speaker 6: of course. Future Proof for an evolving world, Golden Valley
- 20:50Speaker 6: is a pioneering mix of flexible and secure space creating
- 20:54Speaker 6: innovation at scale. It brings together advanced infrastructure and specialized
- 20:58Speaker 6: hubs co create with industry and academia, all purpose built
- 21:03Speaker 6: for market leading and globally ambitious companies. It all sounds
- 21:08Speaker 6: very good so far, but then I think we have
- 21:12Speaker 6: to look. So they're on track apparently for their twenty
- 21:15Speaker 6: twenty seven which is the first step of their development
- 21:19Speaker 6: and expansion. And this is the ideas sector, the creating
- 21:23Speaker 6: of a hub for companies pech companies including those from Israel,
- 21:28Speaker 6: of course, which is heavily invested in this project, to
- 21:31Speaker 6: come and discuss the future of cyber strategy in the
- 21:35Speaker 6: UK and then the router element which is basically a
- 21:40Speaker 6: central hub for transport and so on. And these plans
- 21:44Speaker 6: go through on their website to twenty thirty five and
- 21:48Speaker 6: then just a quick look to show how effectively they
- 21:52Speaker 6: are linked to GCHQ, very very close. They're adjacent to GCHQ.
- 21:57Speaker 6: We've just spoken about the fact that gch you directors
- 22:01Speaker 6: and staff are heavily involved in the planning. And if
- 22:04Speaker 6: we have a quick look at the partners you have
- 22:07Speaker 6: there also Cheltenham Borough Council, GCHQ and a company called Plexa. Well,
- 22:15Speaker 6: who are Plexer and how are they also connected into Israel?
- 22:20Speaker 6: So let's have a look at this announcement a few
- 22:24Speaker 6: days ago in April, Home Office appoints BA Consulting and
- 22:29Speaker 6: Plexil as ACE Delivery partners. ACE is accelerated Capability environment
- 22:37Speaker 6: solves public safety and security challenges arising from rapidly changing
- 22:42Speaker 6: digital and data technologies. Brings together expertise from industry and academia.
- 22:47Speaker 6: Note the academia is being pulled in again to innovate,
- 22:50Speaker 6: collaboratively and deliver frontline mission impact at PACE. Also interesting
- 22:55Speaker 6: to know that they are part of the Home Office
- 22:59Speaker 6: kp ability as part of the Homeland Security Group and
- 23:03Speaker 6: ACE solutions in fields such as online child sexual abuse
- 23:07Speaker 6: and exploitation, terrorism, insider threat in critical national infrastructure, and
- 23:14Speaker 6: border security. So I think we can see pretty clearly
- 23:17Speaker 6: where this is all heading. And then this has taken
- 23:20Speaker 6: again from the plexil website. I think this was yes
- 23:24Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. We're offering eighteen free memberships to support
- 23:29Speaker 6: early stage cyber startups and what does that include? So
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- 23:48Speaker 6: Dell Technologies discounts. So I think what is frightening and
- 23:53Speaker 6: I'd really like to discuss this an extra But it
- 23:56Speaker 6: appears that this entire hub is being developed to protectors
- 24:01Speaker 6: from cyber attacks, but my controls. I'd like to get
- 24:05Speaker 6: your opinion, maybe an extra or now if we have
- 24:07Speaker 6: time as to whether it's actually going to be turned
- 24:11Speaker 6: against us and weaponized against us through the field of
- 24:14Speaker 6: education and surveillance.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Well, as you say, we can talk about this much
- 24:21Speaker 1: more an extra but you know the prevalence of UNITITY
- 24:26Speaker 1: two hundred, another Israeli intelligence agency alumni right across the
- 24:32Speaker 1: tech sector. These are the people that are building the
- 24:35Speaker 1: surveillance infrastructure that we are increasingly submissive to, or at
- 24:42Speaker 1: least populations seem to be at the moment. But certainly
- 24:44Speaker 1: it's becoming mandatory for us to be involved with it.
- 24:47Speaker 1: So you know, this should be a cause for concern
- 24:54Speaker 1: for most people, I would have said, And certainly we're
- 24:58Speaker 1: not getting the questions or the public a bit around
- 25:00Speaker 1: this that we should be. But we'll talk much more
- 25:02Speaker 1: about this in extras, So thank you very much.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Just the only other thing to point out, as well
- 25:07Speaker 2: as being slapped back next door to GCHQ, the other
- 25:10Speaker 2: side of it is the new Glocester Police development of Furlong.
- 25:13Speaker 2: So interesting, interesting location, let's say, but a lovely view
- 25:16Speaker 2: of those sewage works.
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- 26:43Speaker 1: Absolutely Tonight seven pm Jerrem is talking to doctor fernand
- 26:48Speaker 1: Santos on the Artemis hoax. Well, that should be interesting.
- 26:52Speaker 1: China justified US sanctions is the discussion, and so I
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- 27:05Speaker 1: So architect of global control is how they're describing it.
- 27:07Speaker 1: So join us at one pm tomorrow for that. Now
- 27:11Speaker 1: let's move on to the information war then and will.
- 27:15Speaker 1: This press release was released by the British Government by
- 27:19Speaker 1: the British Embassy in Kiev. It is raising a tender
- 27:24Speaker 1: inviting proposals worth up to one point five million pounds
- 27:27Speaker 1: for nonprofit organizations to deliver what are described as strategic
- 27:32Speaker 1: communications capacity to the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers and this
- 27:37Speaker 1: contract is to run from July twenty twenty six to
- 27:40Speaker 1: March twenty twenty seven. Although it's framed as governance support,
- 27:45Speaker 1: the structure and terminology used it absolutely fits within the
- 27:51Speaker 1: idea doctrine of behaviorally informed state communications. In other words,
- 27:55Speaker 1: it's information on you and me to make sure that
- 27:58Speaker 1: we're supporting the Ongore proxy war against Russia, which is
- 28:02Speaker 1: costing us all huge amounts of tax money. This is
- 28:05Speaker 1: being funded through the Integrated Security Fund, which is the
- 28:08Speaker 1: successor to the Global Security and sorry to the Conflict
- 28:14Speaker 1: Security and Stability Fund. And the text refers to the
- 28:17Speaker 1: battle in the information environment and the goal of helping
- 28:21Speaker 1: Ukraine win the information war, and its language is drawn
- 28:26Speaker 1: from NATO Strategic Communications Doctrine, which incorporates information operations and
- 28:32Speaker 1: psychological operations as constituent parts. Now, the three objectives map
- 28:38Speaker 1: onto the operational architecture of the UK's government Communications service.
- 28:43Speaker 1: So these are the two key documents that you see
- 28:45Speaker 1: on screen here at the moment, the Allied Joint Doctrine
- 28:49Speaker 1: for Strategic Communications and the Government the UK Government's Government
- 28:53Speaker 1: Functional Standard on Communication. And there's three objectives mentioned. Objective
- 28:59Speaker 1: one and dates audience research and Insights collection objective to
- 29:04Speaker 1: establishes centralized what they call one Voice Coordination Team which
- 29:10Speaker 1: is modeled on Government Communication Service best practice. And Objective
- 29:15Speaker 1: three specifies data delivery, data driven delivery through paid and
- 29:20Speaker 1: earned media and I'm not clearly paying media for getting
- 29:26Speaker 1: messages out is something that maybe we haven't seen acknowledged before,
- 29:31Speaker 1: but they are talking about in these documents. The OASIS framework,
- 29:34Speaker 1: which is objectives, audience Insight, strategy, implementation and scoring, and
- 29:40Speaker 1: it's used across the UK government communication since twenty eighteen
- 29:43Speaker 1: and it embeds behavioral science methodology at each stage of
- 29:47Speaker 1: any campaign. They call it audience centric research and audience insight,
- 29:54Speaker 1: and it uses what they describe as psychographic segmentation rather
- 29:58Speaker 1: than demographic targeting. They're not basing this on what age
- 30:02Speaker 1: you are or whether your male or female. They're basing
- 30:04Speaker 1: it on your psychological profile. The approach was refined by
- 30:09Speaker 1: the Behavioral Insights Team, which we've talked about many many times,
- 30:12Speaker 1: established within the Cabinet Office in twenty ten. It now privatized.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It identifies population subgroups by attitudes, values and behavioral drivers
- 30:22Speaker 1: and then designs differentiated message variants which are then ab
- 30:27Speaker 1: tested for measurable impact. The theory of change formulation is
- 30:34Speaker 1: implicit in the tender itself, and it's a standard behavioral
- 30:38Speaker 1: change tactic of the kind expressed in the mind Space
- 30:42Speaker 1: document which Brian initially talked about way back in twenty
- 30:46Speaker 1: eleven or twenty twelve, and we've talked about many many
- 30:49Speaker 1: times since.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Now.
- 30:51Speaker 1: Two phrases in the tender warn't particular intention attention. One
- 30:57Speaker 1: is tailored interventions targeting key audiences, and it uses intervention
- 31:02Speaker 1: in its behavioral science sense, which means that they're denoting
- 31:07Speaker 1: a design stimulus intended to alter a belief or action
- 31:11Speaker 1: at population scale, so that's not an individual that's across
- 31:14Speaker 1: the population. And the other phrase is counter hybrid information
- 31:19Speaker 1: environment based threats, and that places to work within the
- 31:22Speaker 1: hybrid warfare sphere where civilian information consumption is treated as
- 31:27Speaker 1: a contested military operational domain. And this comes back, Charles
- 31:32Speaker 1: to the sort of integrated operating concept of this idea
- 31:35Speaker 1: that foreign lands might be a military operational zone, but
- 31:41Speaker 1: so is domestic audiences. Now, the one Voice team that
- 31:46Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier is particularly consequential. So this is centralized
- 31:51Speaker 1: coordination of ministerial communications. It's modeled on the government, the
- 32:00Speaker 1: GCS institutional architecture that provided the same messaging for us,
- 32:06Speaker 1: the same type of messaging for us during the COVID
- 32:08Speaker 1: nineteen response. I'm thinking here particularly of the spy B
- 32:12Speaker 1: twenty second in March twenty twenty paper that we basically
- 32:15Speaker 1: broke that story that recommended that the perceived less level
- 32:19Speaker 1: of personal threat had to be increased amongst all of
- 32:22Speaker 1: us using hard hitding emotional messaging, and that was in
- 32:27Speaker 1: order to get us to comply with the lockdown at
- 32:30Speaker 1: the time. So this is quite a spectacular piece of
- 32:37Speaker 1: a tender that's been released, Charles, and it gives us
- 32:41Speaker 1: a great deal of insight into how the UK government
- 32:44Speaker 1: is using applied psychology and at population scale to change
- 32:48Speaker 1: opinions and drive people to support an otherwise unsupportable policy.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think the fact that it's coming
- 32:57Speaker 2: from or releases directly related to Ukraine, you know, it
- 33:00Speaker 2: just couldn't be more significant, and exactly where we went
- 33:02Speaker 2: with the Skyhammer piece, with the you know, the fact
- 33:06Speaker 2: that people's emotions are being drawn upon and the psychological
- 33:10Speaker 2: nudging and all the rest of it.
- 33:11Speaker 3: I think it's fascinating.
- 33:12Speaker 1: But if it's being used in Ukrain, in Ukraine, it's
- 33:15Speaker 1: also being used with respect Israel, Gaza and Iran and
- 33:18Speaker 1: all these kinds of things.
- 33:19Speaker 3: So was it one and a half billion?
- 33:22Speaker 1: So we'll check that and discuss. Well, indeed, anyway, let's
- 33:29Speaker 1: let's talk about two masters.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Yes, there's sort of where we get to this. I
- 33:34Speaker 2: think we will start with the Times of Israel because
- 33:37Speaker 2: they've been reporting that and admissively I can't substantiate this,
- 33:41Speaker 2: but that the Board of Peace might be planning to
- 33:45Speaker 2: shut down the Ceasefire Coordination Headquarters in Israel South.
- 33:49Speaker 3: At least that's the headline. Now, what they mean by that.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Is that the Board of Pieces had to deny report
- 33:55Speaker 2: that the US will be shutting down the Civil Military
- 33:57Speaker 2: Coordination Center, the CMCC, which was tasked with facilitating the
- 34:02Speaker 2: entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza, and I've put it
- 34:06Speaker 2: involved monitoring the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Now there's
- 34:10Speaker 2: been a lot of confusion about its role and remit
- 34:13Speaker 2: and with a special regard to cease fire. And that's
- 34:17Speaker 2: the bit that I want to hammer here, because we're
- 34:19Speaker 2: just going to go through a few more bits to
- 34:21Speaker 2: join up in order to see where we get you
- 34:23Speaker 2: with it.
- 34:23Speaker 7: Now.
- 34:23Speaker 2: As for a Central Command itself, sent Com back in
- 34:26Speaker 2: October last year put out a statement about the CMCC
- 34:31Speaker 2: as to what it was going to do, and they
- 34:34Speaker 2: said the CMCC will also monitor implementation of the ceasefire
- 34:39Speaker 2: agreement featuring an operations floor that allows staff to assess
- 34:42Speaker 2: real time developments in Gaza.
- 34:43Speaker 3: So that's fairly clear.
- 34:44Speaker 2: They were absolutely setting themselves up to monitor the ceasefire agreement.
- 34:49Speaker 3: However, at the time, Ian.
- 34:51Speaker 2: Overton was writing in the Byeline Times and he wrote
- 34:56Speaker 2: that leaked US military papers seen by the Byline Time
- 34:59Speaker 2: suggests that Gaza's you created civil the CMCC, now endorsed
- 35:03Speaker 2: by the Security Council as part of Trump's twenty point
- 35:06Speaker 2: peace Plan, will function more as a US Army command
- 35:10Speaker 2: post than a humanitarian hub. Now that might not seem
- 35:14Speaker 2: like such a surprise, and after all, this is in
- 35:17Speaker 2: effect old news, or at least we are going back
- 35:20Speaker 2: in order that we can trace the line forward. Well,
- 35:22Speaker 2: now look at what the National said just after that
- 35:26Speaker 2: article put out by Ian Overton in the Byeline Times,
- 35:29Speaker 2: and they refer to to the center being established on
- 35:32Speaker 2: October the seventeenth to observe the ceasefire for any violation.
- 35:35Speaker 2: So again, monitoring of the ceasefire and to handle logistics
- 35:38Speaker 2: including aid delivery into Gaza. Now here's the significant part.
- 35:41Speaker 2: A British officer, Major General Tom Bateman, is deputy to
- 35:45Speaker 2: the US commander of the operation. Now that might not
- 35:48Speaker 2: mean much to just yet, but it will in a minute.
- 35:52Speaker 2: We'll go back to the House of Commons in October
- 35:55Speaker 2: where James Cartilage, the Conservative MP, asks how many British
- 35:59Speaker 2: service personnel deployed to Israel to monitor the ceasefire in
- 36:03Speaker 2: Gaza by rank and Al Khnes replying said, a small
- 36:08Speaker 2: team of UK planning officers led by a two star
- 36:11Speaker 2: deputy commander. Two star is equivalent to rank of major general,
- 36:15Speaker 2: have embedded in the US led Civil Military Coordination Center CMCC.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Now that bears out what the National was reporting. Can't, however,
- 36:23Speaker 2: goes on to say, to ensure that the UK remains
- 36:28Speaker 2: integrated into the US led planning efforts for Gaza post
- 36:34Speaker 2: conflict stability, this team is not monitoring the ceasefire in Gaza. Now,
- 36:40Speaker 2: that is a very interesting discrepancy, and as I said,
- 36:43Speaker 2: I'm not trying to suggest that this is new news,
- 36:45Speaker 2: but of course it's brought into focus by the Times
- 36:49Speaker 2: of Israel pointing out that the Board of Peace might
- 36:51Speaker 2: be doing for the CMCC in the first place. Now
- 36:53Speaker 2: we go back to Tom Bateman, because not only is
- 36:57Speaker 2: he deputy commander and therefore under the United States chain
- 37:01Speaker 2: of command, sentcom, but he is also the commander of
- 37:06Speaker 2: the standing Joint force within the Joint Expeditionary Force, so
- 37:11Speaker 2: he is being asked to wear two hats. And the
- 37:14Speaker 2: question has to be is it possible for him to
- 37:17Speaker 2: be serving two masters at the same time, and therefore
- 37:21Speaker 2: what inference should we be drawing from this, particularly at
- 37:25Speaker 2: a time where NATO of the future of NATO's absolutely jeopardized,
- 37:29Speaker 2: and of course significant past about the Joint Expeditionary Forces.
- 37:32Speaker 2: The United States is not part of it. And yet
- 37:34Speaker 2: here he is absolutely within the chain of command in
- 37:38Speaker 2: US Central Command. So I think there's a lot of
- 37:39Speaker 2: questions that are going to come out of that. And
- 37:42Speaker 2: of all the people that could have been chosen to
- 37:44Speaker 2: double hat, he seems, well, you could say, an extraordinary choice,
- 37:48Speaker 2: or indeed a perfectly logical one.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles Vanessa. Let's welcome back and bring us
- 37:55Speaker 1: up todate with what's happening with respect Iran. Is Trump
- 38:00Speaker 1: really standing done for no?
- 38:04Speaker 6: Well, I mean sorry, I have to laugh because the
- 38:07Speaker 6: messaging has been extremely schizophrenic leading up to Trump standing down.
- 38:13Speaker 6: As you said, you spoiled my punchline, Mike on the report.
- 38:18Speaker 6: But never mind, So, first of all, this came out
- 38:22Speaker 6: I think it was yesterday. So bear in mind the
- 38:26Speaker 6: US administration. Trump's administration is really scrabbling at the moment
- 38:32Speaker 6: to find a narrative to pin on their behavior in
- 38:35Speaker 6: the aggression against your own. So let's start with this.
- 38:38Speaker 6: This was on CNN.
- 38:42Speaker 7: This is a physical blockade. They're not able to send
- 38:45Speaker 7: their oil and the resources to China, and vast majority
- 38:50Speaker 7: of their oil experts were going VC. To give you
- 38:53Speaker 7: a sign of the desperate measures they're contemplating, The Wall
- 38:57Speaker 7: Street Journal reported today that their contemplating measures like suicide dolphins,
- 39:02Speaker 7: you know, dolphins equipped with minds to try to go
- 39:06Speaker 7: after US ships. So that's not that's not a measure
- 39:09Speaker 7: which projects real strength.
- 39:11Speaker 8: Wait, I'm sorry you have to how would that even work?
- 39:14Speaker 7: So this has been discussed in the past by the
- 39:18Speaker 7: Iranian regime that you know, they.
- 39:19Speaker 9: Want to strap bombs to dolphins.
- 39:21Speaker 7: Dolphins with mines to go after US ships. Now that's
- 39:26Speaker 7: that's a pretty crazy asymmetric tool. But this is some
- 39:30Speaker 7: of the measures that are being reported right now.
- 39:33Speaker 4: I mean, do you think that they could actually try
- 39:35Speaker 4: If they actually tried that, what would that say about
- 39:38Speaker 4: their desperation.
- 39:39Speaker 7: Well, this is something that they've thrown out in the
- 39:42Speaker 7: past to show the various options they have at their disposal.
- 39:46Speaker 7: But again, this is not a show of a country
- 39:49Speaker 7: which which is strong. You don't contemplate those kinds of
- 39:52Speaker 7: measures when you're strong.
- 39:57Speaker 6: I would suggest you don't contemplate these kind of stories
- 40:00Speaker 6: if you're in a strong position as the aggressor. Actually,
- 40:04Speaker 6: if you go back to sixty four, nineteen sixty four,
- 40:06Speaker 6: nineteen sixty five, there was the CIA Project Oxigas, which
- 40:11Speaker 6: intended to use dolphins to do exactly that. But anyway,
- 40:16Speaker 6: then let's hear about Trump's statement yesterday when he threatened
- 40:21Speaker 6: basically to blow everyone up as usual. But let's have
- 40:24Speaker 6: a listen to Fox News.
- 40:29Speaker 9: Foxer's alert Central Command has just initiated Operation Project Freedom,
- 40:34Speaker 9: the mission unblock the strait. The president says, if Iran interferes,
- 40:39Speaker 9: it's a death sentence.
- 40:40Speaker 8: I spoke with President Trump for twenty minutes about the
- 40:43Speaker 8: situation with Iran. He talked about Project Freedom and the
- 40:47Speaker 8: US efforts to guide vessels through the Strait of Hormuz,
- 40:50Speaker 8: issuing a new warning to the Iranian regime, saying, if
- 40:53Speaker 8: the Iranians try to target US ships in this area,
- 40:57Speaker 8: they will be quote blown off the face.
- 40:59Speaker 5: Of the earth.
- 41:03Speaker 6: Okay, are you following me so far, so you're understanding
- 41:07Speaker 6: the rhetoric that's coming out of the United States. Then
- 41:10Speaker 6: sent Coom put out this statement on social media and elsewhere.
- 41:16Speaker 6: Vessels currently in the Arabian Golf. Notice how they've changed
- 41:20Speaker 6: the name there. At least it's not Trump's Golf, but
- 41:23Speaker 6: the Arabian Golf. It's not the Persian Gulf. Represent eighty
- 41:27Speaker 6: seven countries from around the world, and as the President mentioned,
- 41:30Speaker 6: they are merely neutral and innocent bystanders. Over the last
- 41:34Speaker 6: twelve hours, we've reached out to dozens of ships and
- 41:38Speaker 6: shipping companies to encourage traffic flow through the Straight of Foremus,
- 41:42Speaker 6: consistent with the President's intent to help guide ships safely
- 41:47Speaker 6: through the narrow trade corridor. If you pay attention to
- 41:50Speaker 6: the language there, what does this actually mean. It means
- 41:54Speaker 6: that sent Com is not going to be accompanying the vessels.
- 41:57Speaker 6: It's just going to give them directions as to which
- 42:00Speaker 6: part of the strait they should pass through to achieve
- 42:04Speaker 6: safe transit point. And then if we actually look this
- 42:08Speaker 6: was published by an Iranian telegram Channel pretty much at
- 42:12Speaker 6: the same time, basically saying no vessel is even attempting
- 42:18Speaker 6: to basically pass through the alleged safe passage set by
- 42:22Speaker 6: the US for vessels where they have to effectively contact OMARN.
- 42:27Speaker 6: I have to also say Marco Rubio went on social
- 42:31Speaker 6: media to basically tell the UN that it should interfere
- 42:36Speaker 6: to open up the Straight of Hormones. I also have
- 42:38Speaker 6: to remind people the Straight of hae Moves was open
- 42:41Speaker 6: until the United States imposed it's illegal blockade on the
- 42:46Speaker 6: Iranian blockade. When the Strait of hor Moves was actually open,
- 42:51Speaker 6: It's just that ships had to ask permission to pass
- 42:54Speaker 6: through the Strait of Foremus. And then basically yesterday there
- 43:00Speaker 6: were a number of drone attacks on the UA and
- 43:05Speaker 6: there was a fair amount of rumor mongering saying that
- 43:09Speaker 6: Iran was going to be targeting the oil pipeline that
- 43:13Speaker 6: you can see there in green, which is supposed to
- 43:16Speaker 6: be helping bypass the wallmut Straight blockade. But I think
- 43:20Speaker 6: it can only transport around one point nine million barrels
- 43:26Speaker 6: per day, so it's not going to achieve a huge amount.
- 43:30Speaker 6: And then ultimately the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the
- 43:34Speaker 6: IRGC both put out statements denying any attack on the UAE,
- 43:41Speaker 6: and if we can just pull up the statement from
- 43:44Speaker 6: the Foreign Ministry, they also condemn Abadhabi for cooperating with
- 43:49Speaker 6: US and Israel against Iran, especially by hosting military bases
- 43:53Speaker 6: and equipment. The MFA now officially rejects UAE claims that
- 43:58Speaker 6: Uron launched missiles or drone at the Emirates, saying Iran's
- 44:02Speaker 6: actions are only aimed at rappelling US aggression.
- 44:05Speaker 1: So very clear that.
- 44:06Speaker 6: This was or let's say, at least there's potential that
- 44:09Speaker 6: this was a false flag to restart the aggression. And
- 44:15Speaker 6: then I wanted to also have a look at this.
- 44:19Speaker 6: This is what the White House put on X. This
- 44:22Speaker 6: was a statement from Hegsath and again very belligerent language.
- 44:27Speaker 6: Here to what remains of Iran's forces. If you attack
- 44:32Speaker 6: American troops or innocent commercial shipping, you will face overwhelming
- 44:36Speaker 6: and devastating American firepower. We prefer a peaceful operation, but
- 44:42Speaker 6: are locked and loaded to defend our people, our ships,
- 44:45Speaker 6: our aircraft and mission without hesitation.
- 44:48Speaker 1: Amazing how everything becomes American at that point.
- 44:52Speaker 6: And then I just want to play a little section
- 44:54Speaker 6: of Rubio's exchange with the press yesterday where he makes
- 45:00Speaker 6: it very clear what the har moves of Straight is.
- 45:03Speaker 6: Let's just play this straight.
- 45:05Speaker 1: What do you think they would do if they had
- 45:06Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon.
- 45:07Speaker 5: They would hold the world hostage with that nuclear weapon.
- 45:09Speaker 6: That's what they would do. They would do exactly to
- 45:11Speaker 6: the world or a nuclear weapon what they're doing now
- 45:13Speaker 6: with the straits. So I think there he made it
- 45:18Speaker 6: clear that in fact, the Hall moves straight is probably
- 45:21Speaker 6: more of a nuclear weapon for Iran in the sense
- 45:24Speaker 6: that it can sanction the entire global economy than an
- 45:27Speaker 6: actual nuclear weapon. So thank you Marco Rubio for confirming that.
- 45:33Speaker 6: And then this was a rather wonderful exchange between Iran's
- 45:38Speaker 6: Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman who responded to a question
- 45:42Speaker 6: from a foreign journalist and if we can just have
- 45:45Speaker 6: the slide up, and the journalist asked why Iran doesn't
- 45:49Speaker 6: back down when America is a superpower. He responded, we
- 45:53Speaker 6: are a superpower too, which I think I couldn't be
- 45:57Speaker 6: any clearer. And I think what seing the flailing around
- 46:02Speaker 6: and floundering of the Trump administration and dealing with Iran
- 46:06Speaker 6: at the moment, I think I would agree. And then
- 46:08Speaker 6: all of a sudden guess what freedom, Project Freedom is
- 46:13Speaker 6: stalled and backpedaled. Trump puts out this statement on true
- 46:18Speaker 6: social based on the request of Pakistan. Funny how it's
- 46:21Speaker 6: always a request of someone else when he does have
- 46:24Speaker 6: to back down and other countries not named. The tremendous
- 46:28Speaker 6: military success that we have had during the campaign against
- 46:31Speaker 6: the country of Iran, some would disagree. And additionally, the
- 46:36Speaker 6: fact that great progress has been made toward a complete
- 46:38Speaker 6: and final agreement with representatives of Iran. Not sure where
- 46:41Speaker 6: there's so many capitals everywhere. Of course, there's no agreement
- 46:46Speaker 6: because Trump back down on that. Also, we have mutually
- 46:51Speaker 6: agreed that while the blockade will remain in full force
- 46:53Speaker 6: and effect Project Freedom, the movement of ships through the
- 46:56Speaker 6: straight of wall moves will be paused for a short
- 46:59Speaker 6: period of time to see whether or not the agreement
- 47:01Speaker 6: can be finalized and signed. President Donald J. Trump, So
- 47:06Speaker 6: I think you can safely say that's another one chalked
- 47:09Speaker 6: up to Iran.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's capitals all the way through that,
- 47:14Speaker 1: because he's attempting to brand these frizzers as being some
- 47:19Speaker 1: kind of trademark. But anyway, Yeah, we will absolutely be
- 47:23Speaker 1: talking more about that an extra as well. But let's
- 47:26Speaker 1: come back to the UK Charles and R R streets.
- 47:29Speaker 2: If well, this is the question that the Laby government
- 47:33Speaker 2: has to deal with. Certainly they are going to pretend
- 47:37Speaker 2: that what their actions, or are the actions they're taking,
- 47:40Speaker 2: are going to make them safer. And they of course
- 47:43Speaker 2: just last week passed the controversial and much reported upon
- 47:48Speaker 2: Crime and Policing Bill, which has received Role assent and
- 47:51Speaker 2: now becomes the Crime and Policing Act. According to the
- 47:54Speaker 2: press release, this will represent new powers for police and
- 47:58Speaker 2: the wider criminal justice system, and it will help realize
- 48:01Speaker 2: this government's mission to restore confidence in policing and tackle
- 48:05Speaker 2: the epidemic of serious violence and violence against women and girls. Now,
- 48:11Speaker 2: first of all, I'm going to concentrate on this use
- 48:13Speaker 2: this word epidemic because this is suggestive of very very
- 48:17Speaker 2: high numbers, numbers that are changing. So therefore we look
- 48:20Speaker 2: at these statistics, or at least those that are available.
- 48:23Speaker 3: Now.
- 48:23Speaker 2: The NPCC had simply said, in order to sort of
- 48:27Speaker 2: reinforce this, that violence against women and girls makes up
- 48:30Speaker 2: just under twenty percent of all recorded crime in England
- 48:33Speaker 2: and Wales. Now, first of all, that is a very
- 48:36Speaker 2: mischievous way to put it, because the Home Office counting
- 48:39Speaker 2: records enable the fasically the misscoring, and this does not
- 48:46Speaker 2: at all suggest that that many twenty percent of those
- 48:50Speaker 2: incidents as reported were anything like the initial report, So
- 48:55Speaker 2: it doesn't give any indication of what actually happened or
- 48:57Speaker 2: what happened next, simply that course to police was made
- 49:00Speaker 2: or allegation was made. So the Office for National Statistics
- 49:04Speaker 2: give us a little bit of context in that the
- 49:06Speaker 2: police made thirty three arrests per one hundred domestic abuse
- 49:10Speaker 2: related crimes in the year ending March twenty twenty one.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Going back to the census data. But now to look
- 49:17Speaker 2: at the data that they have on homicide, which I
- 49:21Speaker 2: think is really the pertinent point here, a different picture
- 49:24Speaker 2: is painted. First of all, far more men are, of
- 49:27Speaker 2: course killed by men, So the number of male victims
- 49:30Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six for the year that's just ended,
- 49:33Speaker 2: decreased by ten percent from four hundred and eight, while
- 49:35Speaker 2: the number of female victims in actual fact remained similar
- 49:38Speaker 2: to the previous year at one hundred and fifty eight.
- 49:40Speaker 2: Now not at all trying to dismiss or marginalize the
- 49:43Speaker 2: instances in which there have been female victims of homicide,
- 49:47Speaker 2: but it just needs to be set against the overall figures,
- 49:50Speaker 2: and indeed to remember that the majority of people killed
- 49:54Speaker 2: by men are in fact men. Now, the second point
- 49:57Speaker 2: to draw out of this statistic is that there are
- 49:59Speaker 2: one hundred eleven domestic homicides in the year ending March
- 50:02Speaker 2: of this year, slightly lower than the previous year, and
- 50:04Speaker 2: of the victims, seventy five were women and thirty six
- 50:07Speaker 2: were men. Now, again the proportion there, I mean, it's
- 50:13Speaker 2: obviously significantly weighted towards women, but again the point must
- 50:18Speaker 2: be made that men do die in domestic violence incidents.
- 50:22Speaker 2: And thirdly, because of course there is never any mention
- 50:25Speaker 2: of it, because it's far too politically sensitive. The homicide
- 50:28Speaker 2: rate for those in the black ethnic group was thirty
- 50:30Speaker 2: six point eight victims per million, which works out at
- 50:34Speaker 2: being four times higher than for the white ethnic group.
- 50:37Speaker 2: But statistics like this are never brought out, and indeed
- 50:42Speaker 2: why would they when you can create much more division
- 50:44Speaker 2: with things like the femicide census from twenty twenty two,
- 50:47Speaker 2: which specifically says one hundred and twenty two women were
- 50:50Speaker 2: killed by men in the UK in twenty twenty two. Now,
- 50:53Speaker 2: of course I've just qualified that statistic by showing those
- 50:57Speaker 2: from the ons. But the point is that this is
- 51:00Speaker 2: absolutely creating the idea. This is a campaign of hate
- 51:02Speaker 2: and violence being waged by men against women in order
- 51:06Speaker 2: to provoke exactly the sorts of responses of division and suspicion. Now,
- 51:11Speaker 2: another key part of the legislation that that's just come
- 51:14Speaker 2: out is the Respect Order, And as with all orders,
- 51:17Speaker 2: it's an absolute affront to liberty and the perversion really
- 51:20Speaker 2: of the course of justice. Because, of course, like all
- 51:22Speaker 2: of these orders, and I've talked about many of them
- 51:24Speaker 2: in the past, that sorry Serious Violence Reduction Order being
- 51:28Speaker 2: an obvious one, they may be laid by local authorities
- 51:31Speaker 2: upon anyone and they can prohibit or mandate any sort
- 51:36Speaker 2: of behavior that the local authority feels as appropriate, even
- 51:39Speaker 2: if no criminal activity has taken place. And the way
- 51:42Speaker 2: this is done is that it is a totally arbitrary
- 51:45Speaker 2: process under the heading of anti social behavior, which of
- 51:49Speaker 2: course in and of itself is not a crime, but
- 51:52Speaker 2: a failure to adhere to a respect order or indeed
- 51:55Speaker 2: the provisions of a respect order will result in a
- 51:58Speaker 2: criminal sanction. It's also I think absolutely reasonable to regard
- 52:03Speaker 2: this as another sort of backdoor entrance or a push
- 52:06Speaker 2: for digital identity, because it introduces the two step verification
- 52:10Speaker 2: for online knife purchases, as though this is really the
- 52:14Speaker 2: only way that a criminal might actually get hold of
- 52:16Speaker 2: a weapon. But of course once that premise is set,
- 52:20Speaker 2: then there's no reason that couldn't be rolled out to
- 52:23Speaker 2: deal with absolutely many many other things. Of course, therefore
- 52:27Speaker 2: the gateway to digital identity. There are apparently thirteen thousand
- 52:32Speaker 2: new community police coming from, not at all clear where
- 52:35Speaker 2: they're going to come from, and I think the question
- 52:37Speaker 2: has to be asked that if police are unable to
- 52:39Speaker 2: deal with their current workload and they'll be given more
- 52:41Speaker 2: powers and more offenses, how is this actually going to
- 52:44Speaker 2: improve anything. However, the government press release obviously also highlighted
- 52:50Speaker 2: the fact that there were lots of agencies queuing up
- 52:55Speaker 2: to applaud the new legislation, and notable I think the
- 52:58Speaker 2: top slot was given to Ryan Wayne, who's senior director
- 53:01Speaker 2: of the Tony Blair Institute, and presumably inadvertently hit the
- 53:05Speaker 2: nail on the head by saying, we know there's often
- 53:08Speaker 2: a difference between the statistics and what people feel and
- 53:11Speaker 2: what people feel is scared. So he's basically articulated the
- 53:15Speaker 2: way in which government and media amplify and exaggerate, as
- 53:17Speaker 2: well as outright manipulates statistics in stories in order to
- 53:21Speaker 2: use them to drive through policy and legislation exactly like this.
- 53:26Speaker 2: And also one has to point out that, sadly, the
- 53:30Speaker 2: man who's the chief executive of the nighttime industry's association
- 53:35Speaker 2: concerned about public safety has the unfortunate name of Michael Kill.
- 53:39Speaker 2: I'm afraid I couldn't resist including that, but as a
- 53:43Speaker 2: very timely example of the disgraceful manner in which the
- 53:46Speaker 2: government does shape public opinion. And we need look no
- 53:50Speaker 2: further than the official statements on the gold screen stabbings,
- 53:53Speaker 2: because from the original statement it was absolutely omitted that
- 53:57Speaker 2: there was a third victim, and with the name Ishmael Hossein,
- 54:03Speaker 2: it seems that the public are being asked to believe
- 54:05Speaker 2: simultaneously that the suspect or the assailant was so rampantly
- 54:09Speaker 2: anti Semitic that he just happened to have time to
- 54:12Speaker 2: stab a Muslim on his way to finding two Jewish people. Now,
- 54:18Speaker 2: this is absolutely part and parcel of the way that
- 54:20Speaker 2: this is done and counter Terrorism Policing only introduced that
- 54:24Speaker 2: detail into their statement much later on. But of course
- 54:27Speaker 2: the other detail really just to close out with is
- 54:29Speaker 2: that it should be no surprise that all of this
- 54:31Speaker 2: is wrapped up in the same thing, because it's absolutely
- 54:34Speaker 2: joined at the hit with policy that's coming straight out
- 54:37Speaker 2: of organizations like the Tony Blair Institute. And here's an
- 54:39Speaker 2: article that Ryan Wayne himself wrote back in January of
- 54:43Speaker 2: this year entitled policing makes Britain safer, not just better
- 54:47Speaker 2: at counting crime. So the full effect of this act
- 54:51Speaker 2: is obviously yet to be felt, but I think there's
- 54:53Speaker 2: much more to be said on protests. I've run slightly
- 54:56Speaker 2: over time, but essentially the idea that protests may now
- 54:59Speaker 2: be described as cumulative. So if a protest on one
- 55:03Speaker 2: issue has taken place in a particular area, even if
- 55:07Speaker 2: another protest planned there is going to be on a
- 55:09Speaker 2: totally different subject involving totally different people, it may be
- 55:12Speaker 2: prohibited on the grounds of the cumulative nature of the
- 55:15Speaker 2: distress for the local population. And that is very very
- 55:18Speaker 2: easy to manipulate.
- 55:20Speaker 1: Absolutely, And don't worry about running over time, because you've
- 55:22Speaker 1: got another segment coming up that you can take the
- 55:24Speaker 1: time back off again.
- 55:25Speaker 3: Thanks Mike.
- 55:26Speaker 1: Right anyway, let's move on then to drones and well,
- 55:30Speaker 1: the UK government is announced forty six million pounds in
- 55:34Speaker 1: funding to expand drone and their taxi services. These are
- 55:39Speaker 1: going to be delivered through the Civil Aviation Authority, but
- 55:42Speaker 1: also to restrict drone use by ordinary people. So around
- 55:48Speaker 1: twenty point five million points is going to be made
- 55:50Speaker 1: available to develop a hybrid remote ID system described as
- 55:55Speaker 1: a number plate four drones as or we could talk
- 55:58Speaker 1: about it as being digital ID for drones because the
- 56:01Speaker 1: drones will have to broadcast ID and location data so
- 56:04Speaker 1: police can identify usage and therefore if it's illegal usage
- 56:08Speaker 1: they can undoubtedly capture people. I'm sure they'll be very
- 56:12Speaker 1: successful of that. There remaining twenty five twenty six point
- 56:16Speaker 1: five million pounds targets regulatory streamlining, which is faster approvals
- 56:21Speaker 1: for emergency, medical and inspection flights and rules to enable
- 56:26Speaker 1: flying taxis from twenty twenty eight. So there we go.
- 56:29Speaker 1: We're going to see the likes of this flying around apparently.
- 56:33Speaker 1: So the government has framed this package as supporting growth
- 56:37Speaker 1: in a sector projected to contribute up to one hundred
- 56:40Speaker 1: and three billion points to the UK economy by twenty fifty,
- 56:44Speaker 1: so that must be all good.
- 56:45Speaker 3: Then, no, but yes, I think probably no.
- 56:50Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, well let's end then with sustainability, Charles, because
- 56:55Speaker 1: apparently we don't have enough enough cod for our fish
- 56:59Speaker 1: and chip.
- 57:00Speaker 2: It's not just can't no, it's not just god no,
- 57:03Speaker 2: I think this is just the question to be asked.
- 57:05Speaker 2: Really with what I'm about to report on is is
- 57:09Speaker 2: there actually a possibility that there might be some organizations
- 57:12Speaker 2: out there who are pursuing what might be described as
- 57:15Speaker 2: sustainability in the genuine sense of the word. And so
- 57:18Speaker 2: we look first to Waitrose, who has announced that not
- 57:22Speaker 2: going to be selling macrol anymore because they believe that
- 57:24Speaker 2: macrol stocks are well below where they should be, and
- 57:28Speaker 2: that in September twenty twenty five, the International Council for
- 57:31Speaker 2: the Exploration of the Sea recommended that Northeast Atlantic macrol
- 57:34Speaker 2: catches should be cut by seventy percent. And it won't
- 57:37Speaker 2: surprise you to learn that in December, four of the
- 57:40Speaker 2: coastal states agreed to cut macrol catches by forty eight percent. Now,
- 57:44Speaker 2: I don't want to oversimplify this in saying that you
- 57:46Speaker 2: can just sort of turn off the tap for that
- 57:47Speaker 2: particular industry. But nonetheless John Low's partnership do appear to
- 57:53Speaker 2: be adhering to their principles. But of course, with food
- 57:58Speaker 2: shortages very much in ether in terms of what's being
- 58:01Speaker 2: suggested with the idea of whole of society approach to
- 58:04Speaker 2: the war that the government is desperately trying to create
- 58:09Speaker 2: sort of anywhere and everywhere, I think it has to
- 58:11Speaker 2: be regarded that this could easily be manipulated. So that's
- 58:16Speaker 2: one thing that the other is again I think more
- 58:19Speaker 2: significant really with regard to the pushback against the climate
- 58:22Speaker 2: change narrative. And this is the Soil Association which has
- 58:25Speaker 2: released cent out of press release this morning about the
- 58:28Speaker 2: dangers of agricultural chemicals but glypher sate in particular, and
- 58:32Speaker 2: they've launched their cut to the chemicals campaign about pre
- 58:36Speaker 2: harvest spraying in particular. So they say use of glyph
- 58:38Speaker 2: states as a pre harvest drying agent was banned in
- 58:40Speaker 2: the EU in twenty twenty three, and the UK government
- 58:43Speaker 2: now has the chance to do the same as it
- 58:46Speaker 2: negotiates with the EU. Now you will guess which way
- 58:49Speaker 2: the lobbying pressure is going to push that particular thing.
- 58:54Speaker 2: But if you're not sure what exactly this is about
- 58:57Speaker 2: what the dangers of glyph state are, then first of all,
- 59:00Speaker 2: I would urge that you do go to their petition
- 59:01Speaker 2: site to have a look that there will be a
- 59:03Speaker 2: link in the show notes. But also they are basing
- 59:06Speaker 2: this on a body of evidence produced by the University
- 59:09Speaker 2: of Washington, and there are just a couple of quotes
- 59:11Speaker 2: to draw out, first being about how glyphasate actually gets
- 59:15Speaker 2: into the body, which is that food is the main
- 59:17Speaker 2: route of exposure, unless of course you're coming into direct
- 59:20Speaker 2: contact with it fire gardening or farming practices directly associated
- 59:25Speaker 2: with glyphasate. The other thing critical detail really is that
- 59:28Speaker 2: surveys detect glypha sate in samples collected from seventy to
- 59:31Speaker 2: eighty percent of all people examined, including children, and with
- 59:35Speaker 2: regard to the types of effect they create, human and
- 59:39Speaker 2: animal studies indicate the risk of multiple adverse health effects
- 59:43Speaker 2: in addition to cancer, including disease of kidney, liver, impacts
- 59:47Speaker 2: to reproductive, endocrine, neurological, and other metabolic systems. And then unfortunately, children, infants,
- 59:53Speaker 2: and fetuses are the most susceptible. So this it is
- 59:57Speaker 2: absolutely no joke and yet it's dismissed absolutely across the
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: board by governments and all the rest of it.
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: And of course what this does is to obscure.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: The real effects for the degradation of the landscape, and
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: it enables people to point at so called climate change
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: to describe why it is that there is sort of
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: catastrophic decline of species. But also just to run the
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: point home, I'm just going to remind you about something
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: that Vanessa reported on recently, which was the use of
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: for say it as a weapon of war by Israel,
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: described here in a question not asked in the European
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: Parliament about Israel's use of chemical weapons in Lebanon and Syria.
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: So I would say a campaign started by the SOD Association,
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: regardless of what you might think of them, that absolutely
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: should have legs and does carry a very very important message.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles, Thank you. Thisxious to the end of
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: the program. We got to leave it there for today. Stiff,
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- 1:01:21Speaker 3: Bye bye bye bye