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8/12/26: Hunter Biden On Tucker Show, USS Lincoln Morale Collapse, Israel Attacks In Gaza · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 4: Well, Hunter Biden stopped by Tucker Carlson's show this week
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  Speaker 4: to make a new case about where potentially his infamous
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  Speaker 4: laptop came from. It's We're gonna parts of the story
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  Speaker 4: sound legitimate, other parts of it less legitimate.
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  Speaker 5: We'll have a little fact check, but.
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  Speaker 4: First take a listen here to this origin story, or
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  Speaker 4: this new version of the origin story of the Hunter
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  Speaker 4: Biden laptop.
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  Speaker 6: Then the official story comes out about how the laptop
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  Speaker 6: was left. You left a couple of laptops and a
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  Speaker 6: laptop repair store in Greenville, Delaware, which I'm a town
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  Speaker 6: I'm very familiar with. So, and the guy was blind,
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  Speaker 6: and I interviewed the guy who seemed to totally believe
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  Speaker 6: the story, John mcgaac. I mean, he seemed to be
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  Speaker 6: telling the truth, but the story did not make sense. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting we get approached by Israelis connected to Benjaminenya,
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  Speaker 6: who like, I know that, who are shopping this stuff
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  Speaker 6: to me at Fox News? And I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 6: think that that part of the story. The laptop is real.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that from day one, but the way that
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  Speaker 6: it entered the bloodstream exactly American media, was not real.
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  Speaker 6: So I just want to ask you, point blank, did
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  Speaker 6: you drop off lap No? And this is the thing
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  Speaker 6: that I've said over and over again. I have literally
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  Speaker 6: zero recollection or memory of ever dropping off a laptop
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  Speaker 6: at John Paul mc isaac's no.
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  Speaker 1: The answer is no.
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  Speaker 7: And John Paul Mcgawhile, So John Paul mc isaac, who's
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  Speaker 7: legally blind, yes, who on the day when the laptop
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  Speaker 7: became public, sat in outside of his shop. He gave
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  Speaker 7: an interview and flat out says that he doesn't remember
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  Speaker 7: seeing me. He couldn't identify me, and also that his
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  Speaker 7: security cameras that he has don't have any footage from
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  Speaker 7: that time. And so regardless though regardless of anything, just this,
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  Speaker 7: the laptop, according to lob Partner, is under oath in
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  Speaker 7: his testimony before the House Oversight Committee, was being sought
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  Speaker 7: by Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine in all the way back
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  Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen. And so Rudy Giuliani is working with
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  Speaker 7: a guy named Andre Dirkash who was a MP in
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  Speaker 7: Ukraine and a known Russian JERU agent. So Rudy goes
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  Speaker 7: over there and basically takes his dossier and receives information
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  Speaker 7: that Hunter Biden's hard not laptop is for sale. And
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  Speaker 7: the person that they can go to is this other
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  Speaker 7: Ukrainian Russian oligarch who is living in Austria. That's what
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  Speaker 7: Leed parn Is and Igor Frewan were doing getting on
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  Speaker 7: the plane.
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  Speaker 1: Before they were arrested.
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  Speaker 7: So how before John Paul mc isaac was ever a
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  Speaker 7: twinkle in anybody's eye.
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  Speaker 6: I believe that the story that was always the weak
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  Speaker 6: part of the story, like he drops off.
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  Speaker 7: Even John Paul mcgeaac, Okay, from there is no such
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  Speaker 7: thing as a laptop the laptop that he turned eventually
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  Speaker 7: turns over a year later, eighteen months later to the FBI.
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  Speaker 7: The thing that he that is distributed and disseminated that
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  Speaker 7: John Paul mc isaac claims that he got off of
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  Speaker 7: a device was a hard drive, and that hard drive
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  Speaker 7: had a limited amount of information, a limited amount of
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  Speaker 7: like gigabytes. I don't know the difference between a gigabyte
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  Speaker 7: and whatever. And that goes into the hands that he
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  Speaker 7: somehow can't find anybody. Could You can't throw a stone
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  Speaker 7: in Trolie Square without hitting someone that knows me personally, right,
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  Speaker 7: and he knows that he's liberd in his whole life. Instead,
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  Speaker 7: what he finds through this guy Apple Bomb and is
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  Speaker 7: Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, Bob Costello. He turns over this hard drive,
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  Speaker 7: the hard drive becomes the platform.
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  Speaker 5: So a couple of things.
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  Speaker 4: Just First of all, that laptop was presented as evidence
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  Speaker 4: in trial, and they traced the serial number. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: reading from the New York Post here, which originally broke
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  Speaker 4: the story. The actual laptop was presented as evidence at
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  Speaker 4: then First Sun's twenty twenty four illegal gun possession trial.
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  Speaker 4: FBI Special Agent Erica Jensen testified that the MacBook Pro
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  Speaker 4: thirteen serial number on the back belonged to then President
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden's son as he sat in the courtroom. So
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  Speaker 4: Hunter Biden is being careful notice the language when he says,
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  Speaker 4: I do not recall.
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  Speaker 5: This is his story consistently.
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  Speaker 4: I've watched literally every major podcast interview that he's done.
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  Speaker 4: He has said consistently he doesn't recall dropping off the
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  Speaker 4: laptop at John Paul mc isaac's repair shop in Delaware.
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  Speaker 4: John Paul mc isaac is blind and has said that
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  Speaker 4: because of this, he could not confirm that Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 4: did it. There is no security camera footage that we
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  Speaker 4: know of of Hunter Biden dropping off the laptop, but
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  Speaker 4: the timeline would fit with Hunter Biden potentially not recalling
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  Speaker 4: that he had dropped off the laptop. Ryan important noise
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  Speaker 4: to contextualize new Hunter Biden coverage since the second Trump
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  Speaker 4: administration has kicked off by saying Hunter Biden corruption, which
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  Speaker 4: was very real and which he is not totally copping to,
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  Speaker 4: is on a level it's on a totally different planet
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  Speaker 4: from what we're seeing from the Trump administration, the Trump family,
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  Speaker 4: the Witcoff family. It is not comparable in any way
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  Speaker 4: whatsoever that is not necessarily vindicated. But I'm curious, from
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  Speaker 4: your perspective, having covered Israeli influence operations, especially as they
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  Speaker 4: relate to the media, how much of the story sounds plausible.
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  Speaker 1: What's the point? What's the point of him lying about this?
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand like that if the hard drive, the
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  Speaker 1: hard drive is authentic. What I'm trying to get at
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  Speaker 1: what point is he trying? How does it help him?
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  Speaker 1: Is he just trying to deflect this to Israel now
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  Speaker 1: that Israel is like the boogeyman.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and I think the DC establishment is the boogeyman
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  Speaker 4: as well. I think there were and you would probably
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  Speaker 4: agree with us. They're absolutely hanky things going on with
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  Speaker 4: Rudy Giuliani going to Ukraine and trying to pin this
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  Speaker 4: trying to drum up corruption evidence on Hunter Biden, which
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  Speaker 4: really was not that difficult to do. So, Yes, Rudy
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  Speaker 4: Giuliani leve Parnas, they're involved in this wild plot to
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  Speaker 4: implicate Hunter Biden in corruption because they knew about the
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  Speaker 4: Barisma thing, and so I think they knew that if
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  Speaker 4: they scratched the surface, perhaps other evidence would present itself.
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  Speaker 4: But he says, and Tucker's no saying that he was
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  Speaker 4: approached by people Israelis, he said, Israelis, not you know,
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  Speaker 4: people connected to Israel, he said, specifically by Israelis when
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  Speaker 4: he was at Fox News pushing the story.
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  Speaker 5: And that does sometimes happen.
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  Speaker 4: When somebody is pushing a story, or when a story
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  Speaker 4: is suddenly starting to kind of materialize, you can sometimes
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  Speaker 4: connect the dots about who is behind the scenes trying
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  Speaker 4: to make the story materialize, by who's pushing it on you,
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  Speaker 4: by who's saying, like, you should really.
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  Speaker 1: Cover this anyway.
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  Speaker 4: But does that mean I actually don't even know why
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  Speaker 4: the Israelis would do that to Hunter Bidenen blackmail.
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  Speaker 1: They really loved Trump somewhat. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see it. Yeah, well there's something
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  Speaker 1: or I mean, anytime you got Ukrainia, you know it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's an a morphous world. But I don't I
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  Speaker 1: also don't see the point.
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  Speaker 4: And he claims to have gotten sober I believe in
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  Speaker 4: the spring and summer of twenty nineteen, and the laptop
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  Speaker 4: was according to mc Isaac dropped off in April.
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  Speaker 5: Of twenty nineteen. So this would not have.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I think again he's being careful and saying
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  Speaker 4: I don't recall any of that.
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  Speaker 5: But to your question.
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  Speaker 1: So can we underlie he So they found the laptop,
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  Speaker 1: they matched it. Yeah, see your number, Like he dropped
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  Speaker 1: the laptop off. Somebody dropped the laptop off. Who else
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  Speaker 1: would do it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: And from the laptop we know he was hanging out
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  Speaker 4: with quite an interesting cast characters at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the fact that the blind guy at the
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  Speaker 1: computer store didn't see you, doesn't it. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: to point out the obvious course of course he didn't
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  Speaker 1: see you.
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  Speaker 5: It's such a wild Hunter Biden story. The blind guy
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  Speaker 5: at the computer shop like only Hunter.
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  Speaker 4: But to your point about why he's making these claims,
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  Speaker 4: I would submit his evidence.
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  Speaker 5: D two. Let's watch.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you could say lots of things about Trump
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  Speaker 6: are bad, but getting us into a war we can't
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  Speaker 6: win in which Americans are dying in Iran that will
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  Speaker 6: only diminish America's power and bankrupt us. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 6: the only exit, really and make a ron stronger and
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  Speaker 6: like no, no, Chuck Schumer is like, yeah, it's bad,
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  Speaker 6: but of course he endorses like the whole leadership structure
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  Speaker 6: endorses that. So like, I can't really say, like they
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  Speaker 6: like Trump.
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  Speaker 7: Now, yeah, I don't know if they like Trumps.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever, but he's doing what they want.
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  Speaker 7: I take us a little bit of it at a well.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, I I don't disagree that that there
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  Speaker 7: is an enormous failure failure of the of what I
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  Speaker 7: call the the elite oligarch Epstein class of Washington d C. Yes,
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  Speaker 7: that are that you and I both know very well, yes,
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  Speaker 7: and that have that are as interested in protecting their
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  Speaker 7: their their corporate overlords as they are in protecting anything.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so the elate Epstein class, which ryan speaking our
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  Speaker 4: language here right up our alley, let's put this Fox
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  Speaker 4: News teraarsheet up on the screen. D three Hunter Biden,
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  Speaker 4: in a deposition that was recently released, is saying that
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  Speaker 4: his family is broke he's being crushed by legal fees.
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  Speaker 4: Fox reports the deposition is related to an ongoing lawsuit
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  Speaker 4: between Biden and the firm Winston Taylor for unpaid legal bills.
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  Speaker 4: Winston Taylor claims the Biden sion owes it seventeen million
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  Speaker 4: dollars from representing him in criminal prosecutions, congressional investigations, and
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  Speaker 4: defamation suits against his critics. Joe Biden actually left the
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  Speaker 4: presidency in debt, I think like eight hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: of debt. So the Biden's are trying hard to gen
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  Speaker 4: up business one way or another. Joe Biden released her book,
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden's about to release his book, and Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 4: has a sub stack that he's plugging in these interviews.
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  Speaker 4: Ran I think the tactic here is actually really clever,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm as amused and entertained by Hunter Biden's sometimes
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  Speaker 4: revelatory interviews on these podcast channels as much as anyone else's.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's it's clever. I do think it's strategic.
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  Speaker 4: But right now, the way to make money in Washington
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  Speaker 4: is to say that you're revealing how people make money
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  Speaker 4: in Washington, Like that's the new that's kind of can
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  Speaker 4: become the new grift.
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  Speaker 1: There was a funny point, funny moment in the interview
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  Speaker 1: where he says, I don't want to be a corporate
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  Speaker 1: chill anymore. What on earth was I even adding to
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. It's like, that's why I want to live
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  Speaker 1: in authenticity now it's why I'm I'm It's why I'm
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  Speaker 1: an artist. It's why I'm writing a substack. It's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm working with multiple nonprofits that are that are doing
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  Speaker 1: aftercare and doing drug drug treatment. It's why I'm working
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  Speaker 1: with bitcoin. It's why I'm working with You're like, wait, well,
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  Speaker 1: what was that last one? Bitcoin? Bitcoin? And then he says,
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  Speaker 1: because I love bitcoin, but also because I'm getting paid.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and he keeps saying that the.
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  Speaker 1: Also you like, he is a perfect spokesperson for bitcoin,
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  Speaker 1: so perfect, Like, have you ever needed to move huge
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  Speaker 1: amounts of money untraceably across borders to make purchases that
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: may or may not be legal in the state where
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  Speaker 1: you live or the country where you live. I have
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  Speaker 1: a product for you.
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  Speaker 5: He should be doing ads.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like that hunt slash Hunter.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, discount code hunter.
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  Speaker 4: But he is also in all of these interviews saying
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  Speaker 4: that the laptop's found nothing that implicates him in trading
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  Speaker 4: on access. He says that he shouldn't have done barisma,
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  Speaker 4: that he understands now why that was bad. No kidding
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  Speaker 4: the people quietly in the Obama administration at the time,
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  Speaker 4: were raising red flags about it at the State Department.
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  Speaker 5: We're raising the red flags about it at the time.
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  Speaker 4: But again he said to Tucker, I did not trade
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  Speaker 4: on access. Well, if we're agreeing that this laptop is real,
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  Speaker 4: there's so so.
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  Speaker 5: Much evidence that he was trading on access.
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  Speaker 4: The most points out he was doing these dinners at
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  Speaker 4: Cafe Milano with his dad, with Kazakhstani, Russian, and Ukrainian patrons,
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  Speaker 4: all easily connected to the government. He was doing coffee
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  Speaker 4: at the Four Seasons with the Chinese business associates, and that,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, we remember the post points out he
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  Speaker 4: quote threatened his father's wrath if a payment was not made.
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  Speaker 5: And you can tell when he's doing these business deals
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  Speaker 5: he's on crack go over and over again.
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  Speaker 4: He's on something because he's unintelligible in some of the
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  Speaker 4: text messages where he is threatening his dad's wrath, like
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  Speaker 4: that's actually pretty obvious. But Tucker is the one who
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  Speaker 4: did the interview with Tony Bobolinski, who was formerly a
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  Speaker 4: business partner, was involved.
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  Speaker 1: Metros in the lobby of a hotel.
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  Speaker 4: I mean met Biden, right, Yeah, And Babolinski is the
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  Speaker 4: one who revealed the temper cent for the big guy comment.
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  Speaker 4: And so anyway, all this to say, if you go
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  Speaker 4: to uh, who's the guy that's done the great laptop breakdowns?
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  Speaker 4: I wish I remembered the so I could plug the website.
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  Speaker 4: But if you go to this website, there is just
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  Speaker 4: enormous amount of breakdowns, not about any.
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  Speaker 5: Of the sexual stuff, but about the business stuff from
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  Speaker 5: the laptops.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a YouTuber.
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  Speaker 4: He might be a YouTuber, but he has like PDFs
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  Speaker 4: where he's isolated a lot of the important parts from
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  Speaker 4: the laptop documents and you can look at the business connections.
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  Speaker 4: It's also convoluted and pretty impossible to follow you or
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  Speaker 4: like Charlie Kelly on the Pepe Silvill board when you're
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  Speaker 4: trying to put it together. But it's just ridiculous. There
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  Speaker 4: was intelligence agents that were working to cover up the
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  Speaker 4: story that we're using CIA email addresses to organize that
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  Speaker 4: fifty one former intelligence agent letter to make it so
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  Speaker 4: that when you tried to send the New York Post
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  Speaker 4: reporting on this in a direct message, Twitter said Nope,
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  Speaker 4: can't do it.
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  Speaker 5: It came back with an error.
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  Speaker 1: Remember you couldn't do that, And the types of corruption
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  Speaker 1: that he was engaged in, are just deeply corrosive to
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  Speaker 1: our democratic system. At the same time, they're also patty
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  Speaker 1: cake compared to Trump's sons yep, who are just straight
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  Speaker 1: up like, oh, Kazakhstan, you want uh, you know you
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  Speaker 1: want a defence packed yep, And you want then how
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  Speaker 1: about we uh, how about you make us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent owners of this mine yep? Like I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: what why did it is? Just we get the fifty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month retainer, like we want to own
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  Speaker 1: half the.
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  Speaker 5: Mind wide open corruption for free for all of you
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  Speaker 5: to see.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's staggering levels of corruption family business dealings. Their
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  Speaker 4: argument is probably internally that it makes them more like
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  Speaker 4: the Arab countries who can just like wheel and deal
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  Speaker 4: in a way that's better for the country because they
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  Speaker 4: know best and.
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  Speaker 1: They're more sophisticated cocaine rather than crack.
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  Speaker 4: So yes, much more sophisticated.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, worth remembering.
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  Speaker 4: And I went through some of that stuff on an
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  Speaker 4: after party episode.
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  Speaker 5: No, not the cocaine. I didn't go through some of
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  Speaker 5: that stuff, but.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the laptop stuff on an after party episode
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  Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 5: People want to take a look at it.
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  Speaker 4: Because the Hunter Biden media tour is ammuse us, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm all for him spilling the secrets. We also don't
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  Speaker 4: need to whitewash the truth about what he was mixed
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  Speaker 4: up in either.
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  Speaker 5: So that's enough of that. Let's head to the USS Lincoln.
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  Speaker 1: So at this start of the Iran War, the United
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  Speaker 1: States had two carrier groups in the region. One of
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  Speaker 1: them had multiple difficulties, including the underwear section of the
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  Speaker 1: of the ship catching fire that's a gerald Ford, as
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  Speaker 1: well as people accidentally flushing socks and t shirts down
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  Speaker 1: the toilets, clogging them up. So the jail Ford carrier
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  Speaker 1: group had to retreat from our war effort. That left
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  Speaker 1: the USS Lincoln, which cost us something like ten or
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  Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars to produce, which cost us I think
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  Speaker 1: around eight million dollars a day to operate. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: doing a little math. That's about three hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: an hour to keep that thing going. Let's check out
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  Speaker 1: how it's going. Not so well, and put this first
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  Speaker 1: element up on the screen. Sailors are trying to jump
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  Speaker 1: off the thing as it's been out in the ocean
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  Speaker 1: for more than two hundred and forty days at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Let's roll. Let's roll this first, stop you guys.
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  Speaker 8: There's a mental health crisis happening aboard the USS Lincoln
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  Speaker 8: in the Middle East that no one is talking about,
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  Speaker 8: and mainly because the Navy's pretty much quashing it. You
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  Speaker 8: will read online about food shortages, supply shortages, poor morale
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  Speaker 8: among crew members. That's because they've been at sea continuously
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  Speaker 8: for two hundred and fifty days. They've been deployed a
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  Speaker 8: total of two hundred and seventy one days, two hundred
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: and fifty without a port of call. That's unheard of. Normally,
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: they would go to port every three to six weeks.
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: They have not been to port in thirty eight weeks.
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: Keep in mind there are fifty two weeks in a year.
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: And yes, the showers are moldy. They're eating basically like
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: a gruel kind of slop at this point. There's no deodorant,
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: there is no toothpaste. My nephew has as a friend
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: on board there, and I was basically hearing updates last
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: week when I was in the States. In real time.
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: They're not talking about the mental health crisis. Six people
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: have tried to jump off that ship. The most recent
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: was last Monday. You know, when you have not touched
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: land in thirty eight weeks, in over two hundred days,
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: things start to happen to you mentally, you know. Combine
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: that with exhaustion, and deadly mistakes.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Start to happen.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: So you know, this is how the Department of War,
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: this is how Donald Trump treats our service men and
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: women whose lives are already being put in harm's way
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: for a bullshit war of aggression that was supposed to
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: be over in a matter of weeks. We are further
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: putting their lives at risk out of sheer ineptitude and neglect.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: It defies logic, it defies reason, and it defies basic
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: fucking humanity.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And this is not just a guy saying his nephew
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: talked to his cousin. We can put up this next element.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I think etwo from the Military Times, multiple uss Abram
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Lincoln sellers of trying to go overboard and made extended deployment.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Families say, so this is this is extraordinarily serious. This
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: is uh. You know, you go back at your you
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: read novels are about like nineteenth century seafaring. Okay, they
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: had it. They had it worse than these guys had.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: This is not good, no getting and you know they're
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: getting resupplied, you know, from shore as quickly as possible,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: from little you know, shuttle boats going back and forth.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But this is, this is getting dark, and this is
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this is what the US has to threaten Iran with
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: as it's going into these negotiations or negotiations that aren't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: exactly happening, right Like, if you don't give us what
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: we want in these talks, you know we're going to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, unleash hell on you again because we have
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the fearsome USS Lincoln nearby, which we spent billions of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: dollars to construct, and many billions more, you know, training
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and recruiting sailors and supplying them. And if you're looking
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at it, you're like, I don't I'm not so sure
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this is in fighting force if you know, it has
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: already moved significantly out of you know, close range of
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Iranian missiles, which undercuts the whole point of having an
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: aircraft carrier group, right It's like supposed to be mobile
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and get you close to your targets. Now if they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: come under you know, drone barrages or other crews missile attacks,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you're going to be you know, the sailors who are
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: in charge of the defense of the ship are not
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: going to be at their peak performance.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Clearly not so Stars and Stripes, which my recollection is
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the Department of War has tried to sort of editorially
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: assert dominance. Over also reported yesterday that there's this massive
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: meeting between families of people who are deployed on the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: USS Lincoln and Navy Secretary hunk Cow. In one case,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: they say from this meeting, espouse tearfully told officials that
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: she received a message that same day from her husband saying, quote,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: he hopes he doesn't wake up tomorrow.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I mean thirty eight weeks in.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Right, and for what it's it's like not really even
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in the fight in the act.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: And I think that's what's so demoralizing probably for them.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: The actual for what is that it's there to provide
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: missile defense for Israel, right, Like that's what that's the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Navy's main role at this point in the region is
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: if you know, hardcore fighting breaks out again. Israel is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: down to, as we've reported, double digit ballistic missile interceptors
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and is relying almost exclusively on the US Navy being
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: being nearby to be able to shoot down Iranian Irnan
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: cruise missiles. Otherwise tel Aviv would look like Kiev now,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: which has basically depleted its its stock of missile interceptors,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and now when there are ballistic missile attacks from Russia
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: on can if you see headlines of ten, twelve, twenty five,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: fifty five like significant casualties because they're no longer able
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to shoot them down.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they also don't have a publicly announced return date,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: and so they're just kind of in limbo, and that's
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: enormously demoralizing too, especially when the commander and chief is
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: vacillating back and forth between well, the war is about this,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: or the war is about this, the war is over,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: The wars not over. I just can't imagine they were
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: supposed to The anticipated end date was back in May,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and now they don't have a return date.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: There doesn't seem to be an end in sight for
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: them right now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: They did a record deployment without without what's the best
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: way to put it, without a port stop. It's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: bad situation, bad situation for everybody. If you support the war,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: this is obviously a bad situation. Even if you are
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: one of the few people in this.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Country that actually supports the war.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: This is a bad situation, yeap, Yes, indeed, all right,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: let's move on, Ryan to your reporting out of Gaza.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Since reaching a ceasefire with Hamas in October twenty twenty five,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the Israeli military has not stopped attacking Palestinians in Gaza.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Now that Netnyahu is rejecting a disarmament deal and pledging
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to stay in Gaza indefinitely, it's worth taking a closer
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: look at what Israel has been doing there month by month.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a moment, but to get
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you up to date first, last week, after the Board
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of Peace, the US and Hamas reached a deal that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: would see Hamas disarm and relinquish power in exchange for
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Israel withdrawing from the Gaza Strip, an odd thing happened,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: or I should say it's odd if you have believed
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: American media claims over the past three years that Israel
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: was not attempting to carry out ethnic cleansing in Gaza
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and had no intention of expelling the population and seizing
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the territory, but instead was truly only interested in getting
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: its hostage back and making sure Hamas could never threaten
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Israel again if you believe that hearing this from Netnyahu
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: would have been odd. Here he is speaking in Hebrew
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: after a recent security Cabinet meeting. As for the Gaza strip,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Netnya who is saying, first of all, I want to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: clarify the main thing, as long as I am Prime Minister,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: no Palestinian state will arise, not in Gaza and not
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in Judea and Samaria, neither Fatastan nor Hamastan. As for
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: specific things coming up in the news lately, I want
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to be precise. Here, Israel rejects the fifteen point document.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I heard people saying you didn't say it, so here
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I am saying it again. Israel rejects the fifteen point document.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The IDF will not carry out any withdrawal until Hamas
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: is disarmed. And when I say disarming Hamas off its weapons,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that means the heavy weapons, the less heavy weapons, all
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: the weapons. And we're talking about real disarmament, not fictitious disarmament.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Now we're talking to the Americans about this issue. They
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: have ideas, some of which are acceptable to us, some
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: are not acceptable to us, and we know how to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: stand firm on these things now. Net Yahoo is resisting
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the agreement for a number of reasons. Among them is
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the looming election, in which any concessions at all to Hamas,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: even ones already agreed to and done for the purposes
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: of disarmament, would be costly among voters. Of course, most
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Palestinians under Israeli control cannot vote now. The deal being
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: discussed is an extension of the one struck in early
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: October twenty twenty five. What has happened since is chilling.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Shortly after the agreement was reached, the IDF began burning homes, shops,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and crucially the sheik Ajlein sewage treatment station, a central
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: component of Gaza City's sanitation network, in September. According to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the Gaza Ministry of Health, some twenty five hundred people
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: were killed by the Israeli assault in October. In the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: weeks after the ceasefire was reached, on the eleventh, israelinux
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: proxies killed two hundred and twenty six Palestinians in Gaza
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and injured five hundred and ninety five. In November, Israel
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: continued its steadily strikes, with warplanes bombing tent encampments and
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: displacement shelters, conducting one of the Bloody's assaults, killing over
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: thirty Palestinians, a majority of whom were women and children.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Troops also continued moving deeper into Gaza City, expanding the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: so called Yellow Line and seizing more territory on a
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: humanitarian front. Aid restrictions continued, with even emergency aid being
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: denied as heavy winter storms hit, causing massive flooding and
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: tents to collapse from the rain, putting hundreds of thousands
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: of Palestinians at risk. Israel had agreed to allow for
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: reconstruction as part of the deal, but instead blocked supplies
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and equipment needed. Israel called another one hundred and thirty
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: people in November and wounded three hundred and fifteen in December.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Satellite images showed that Israel was preparing for a permanent
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: presence by constructing at least thirteen new military outposts inside Gaza.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: A lack of waste management resulting from the earlier attacks
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: led to a buildup of nine hundred thousand tons of garbage,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: exacerbating the public health crisis. To Israel's control of all
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of Gaza's major landfill areas, Israel killed sixty Palestinians in December,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the least violent month of this quote unquote ceasefire, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: wounded another two hundred and forty four. In January, Israeli
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: encroachment into Palestinian land continued, with the military turning the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: yellow line splitting Gaza into a physical barrier. Palestinians walking
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: too close to it would be shot on site, with
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: no indication given of what counted as too close. At
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the same time, Trump rolled out his quote BOARDI of
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Peace plan. Children continued to be killed in a surge
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of attacks in what were supposed to be safe zones.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: By this point in January, Israel was killing an average
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: of five Palestinians every day since the ceasefire. As the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: winter weather continued, shelter supplies were blocked from entering the strip,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: leading to dozens dying from cold temperatures, including babies. One
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: year old Mohammed Basiuni became the seventh child to die
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of exposure that winter. At least twenty five more were
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: crushed today by collapsing buildings as storms ripped through Gaza,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and even more of the population was forced into tents,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: even as Israel blocked delivery of tents. That month, one
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: hundred seven were killed by Israeli attacks and two hundred
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and ninety wounded. In February, Gaza's government media office put
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: out a report demonstrating that Israel had violated the ceasefire
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: agreement over one thousand, five hundred times, with civilians, including women, children,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and medical workers being routinely targeted targeted. The prevention of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: equipment and supplies to search for bodies in the rubble
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: led to families resorting to crude measures to try and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: find the family's remains. One man was left to search
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: for his family the remains of his pregnant wife, unborn child,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: and children by digging through the dirt with a flower sifter.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: That month, Israel blocked engine oil and spare parts from
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: getting into Gaza, a move that would have debilitating consequences
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: for machinery, vehicles, and generators overcoming months. Throughout February, one
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: hundred and six people were killed in another two hundred
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and fifty wounded. In March, after strikes on Iran, Israel
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: reimposed a total siege on Gaza, causing fuel and food
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: supplies to dwindle. Eighty four people were killed. As the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: world's attention turned away and another two hundred and forty
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: seven were wounded. In April, as Israel began increasingly outsourcing
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: violence to local militias, one of them launched a deadly
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: attack on a refug camp, firing at people's homes and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: at children under the cover of airstrikes, killing at least
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: ten and wounding dozens. Later, a nine year old girl,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Ritadrihan was shot to death in bait Lahia while attending
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: class at a school made up of makeshift tents dropsites.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Muhammed Ahmed spoke with her mother, Ola Rihan about the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: day and she told him quote, she went to school
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: like every other time she goes. She hadn't even been
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: there an hour when I got the news that she
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was injured. I said, maybe it's a minor injury in
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: her leg or her hand. Not even fifteen minutes later
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: they told me your daughter has been martyred. I collapsed
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to the ground from shock. I couldn't bear it. There
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be a ceasefire, but it didn't happen.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: She was in the school when the bullet found her.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: What do you want me to say? Ritage is everything
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to me. Ritage is a piece of my heart. She said,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: she went on her own two feet and she came
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: back to me on a stretcher. Meanwhile, Israel was also
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: denying insecticide and rat poison. Akmed Dremley reported on the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: surging rat infestation. Those sleeping intents had to contend with
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: more than just the elements, and now would be routinely
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: bitten while they slept. One hundred and fifteen more Palestinians
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: were killed in April, and four hundred and two were wounded.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: All of this continued in May, with warnings of an
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: environmental and biological apocalypse if urgent action was not taken.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Families continued searching through rubble for their loved ones by
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: hand due to a lack of appropriate equipment allowed into
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the strip. The physical divide at the yellow line had
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: been fortified with newly constructed military bases. On e Day,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: strikes killed at least sixteen Palestinians. The World's Cential Kitchen
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: announced it was rolling back their food and contribution due
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to financial pressure, noting specifically that the reduction was not
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: due to a change in need. On the ground. That month,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Israel killed another one hundred and four people and wounded
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: five hundred and seventeen in Gaza. In June, the number
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of people killed since the ceasefire topped one thousand. Israel
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: also temporarily closed all of the border crossings in retaliation
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: for Iran's retaliatory strikes, which came in response to Israel's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: attacks in Lebanon. Israeli airstrikes on ten encampments on the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: beach continued. Here's the Yasin family surveying the wreckage around
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: their tents. Meanwhile, at the G seven, Trump told the
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: world that Hamas had been respecting the ceasefire. Here he
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: is praising them in his bizarre Trumpian fashion.
• 31:49
  Speaker 9: Look at the job we've done in Gaza. Look at Hamas.
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: Amas has been very silent. You haven't read anything about Humus,
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: and we're trying to get them unarmed. They grew up
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: with the machine gun in the hand. I think actually
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: when they were born, they came out with a machine
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: gun in the hands. That's not the easiest thing. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: they've actually behaved pretty well, considering this was not the
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: lifestyle that they were taught to have.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: June ended with Israel killing another one hundred and twenty
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: seven Palestinians in Gaza and wounding five hundred and seventy.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: July saw further escalation and was the deadliest month of
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Israel firebombed to family home with children
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: sleeping in the middle of the night. The Israeli army
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: pushed the yellow line further in Hundreds of bodies remain unidentified,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: buried in a mass cemetery identified with numbers and not names.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It's known as the Cemetery of the Missing. One hundred
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and sixty three were killed in July and another six
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four wounded in August. After the Board
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: of Peace, Hamas and the US agreed to the disarmament plan,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Israel rejected it. So Emily I just wanted to because
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Gaza has been fading a little bit from mainstream coverage.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Just wanted to remind people that there is technically a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: ceasefire in place. On a near daily basis, Israel will
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: announce that it struck so and so person, or tried
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to strike so and so person, or there will just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: be news of like huge explosions and homes and ten
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: encampments blown up, and it's a very odd understanding of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: a ceasefire. When Israel will say, well, this was a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: commander who was involved in October seventh, so we attacked
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: their home. It's like, okay, but I thought you there's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a ceasefire like this hole there Hamas. You made a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: ceasefire agreement with Hamas. So it's just such a it's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: so hard for me to get my head around this
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: idea that it'll reach a ceasefire and then just continue
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: shooting at the person.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And I'm so glad you did this because I've been
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: way for somebody to put this all together, just personally
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: for a long time, because it's hard to wrap your
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: head around the day to day in Gaza, especially now
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: that there's a war in Iran. It's just genuinely hard
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to keep track of day to day what's happening with
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the quote unquote ceasefire.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: And for example, you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Wrote thirteen military outposts have gone up as.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: A really military outposts.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: I'm ashamed to say I didn't realize it was thirteen
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I had gone up.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: In Gaza since the seasfire.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: That is a remarkable fact, and it's something to your
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: point that's getting buried in the coverage. And just the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: last thing I would say on that is I think
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: that was part of Trump's plan and We've talked about this.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: We've asked Jeremy this too, multiple times, since he's been
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: covering the Iran ceasefire, and he covered the Gaza seasfire
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: so closely. I think Trump knows that he can make
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: this public relations push to say he settled the conflict
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: and then watch the corporate press put it on the
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: back burner so that politically none of this matters. That's
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: what he's betting on, is that politically none of this matters.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: And I do think sadly that's kind of proving to
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: be true.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And one reason that there's less coverage is that Israel
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: has literally killed so many of the journalists there. Two
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: days ago was the one year anniversary of the deliberate
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: assassination of Annas al Sharief, who was the most prominent
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Palestinian journalist working in Gaza. And just this morning we
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: got news that Muhammad A Wad, who is a well
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: respected photo journalist in the West Bank and a drop
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: site contributor as well, was arrested in a raid on
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: his home in Ramala. He becomes by our account or
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: by account, I saw the fortieth journalist who is currently
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: detained by Israel. And so if you are killing and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: detaining the people who are going to tell you the news,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: even if and letting nobody else and letting nobody else
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in even if the public's attention is waning and moving
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to other issues. If there aren't journalists to tell the story,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: then there's nothing to kind of take your attention away from.
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: So the the.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: What you just saw was the work of journalists who
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: are still going in goza abdel kater Sada, uh Muhammad
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Akhmed terrific courageous journalists as well as some others that
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that I named there and led by our Middle East
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Bureau chief Sharif al del Cadus, is just absolutely terrific.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: And there's there's still there're still pushing, but so many
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: of their colleagues have been killed and in prison that
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the work becomes that much more difficult.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for putting that all together. Ring
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: appreciate it. Right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: That'll do it for us today, Uh, Krystal and Sager
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow, and we'll be back on Friday.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Apologies, this one's probably going to hit you in box late.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: We had some teleprompter issues.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: We did we apologies, and also we just kept talking.
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: There's that too. Apologies for that too, Yes, thank so much.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Everyone stuck