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Paralegal Mom, 26, vanishes, tot son left at daycare. Where’s Prisma Denisse Reyes? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Her son he needs, he
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  Speaker 1: needs to have his mother. Police have been searching for
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  Speaker 1: the twenty six year old mother since Wednesday. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: Mesquite Police detectives are going door to door that night,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't pick up her child from the babysitter. Since
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  Speaker 1: her son was born, that's her whole world. I would
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  Speaker 1: love this year. I'd love to be able to give
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  Speaker 1: her a hug again, bringing her home to not pick
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  Speaker 1: up their child when they're supposed to. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: part of our biggest concern is why she didn't pick
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  Speaker 1: her child up, and you know, is she safe? Where
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  Speaker 1: is a beautiful young mom? Prisma, Denise Reys, I, Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to David Max, indicated talk show host. Start
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  Speaker 1: at the very beginning. What do we know, Dave. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a twenty six year old, beautiful woman with a
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  Speaker 1: six year old son who leaves work during her lunch
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  Speaker 1: hour and that's the last time anybody has seen her.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't show up to pick up her six year
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  Speaker 1: old son. That was the tip off that family and
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  Speaker 1: friends had knowing that something was amiss, because she would
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  Speaker 1: never ever leave her six year old without his mom.
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  Speaker 1: So they knew, and they immediately alerted everybody they could
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  Speaker 1: and started looking immediately. We were talking about a twenty
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  Speaker 1: six year old mom Priest mont Denise Rays. We know
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  Speaker 1: she didn't pick up her son from the babysitter's house,
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  Speaker 1: which she did every work evening around seven thirty. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we know. She gets up as normal
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  Speaker 1: that day, she goes to work, she drops the baby
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  Speaker 1: at the babysitters like she always does, She reports to work,
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  Speaker 1: she goes to lunch, and then she's never seen again.
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  Speaker 1: That's my understanding of the facts. With me an all
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  Speaker 1: star panel, ash She Willcott judge Law, your anchor at
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott dot com. Jeff Cortez, a FBI special agent,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Max indicated talk show host from Karen Stark Psychologists
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  Speaker 1: joining us from Manhattan at Karen Stark dot com. And
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  Speaker 1: Robin Malinski Crime Online dot com investigative reporter. I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to Jeff Cortiz, a former FBI special agent. Jeff, I,
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  Speaker 1: like Dave Mack, find the most uncharacteristic mark of this
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  Speaker 1: to be that she did not pick up her baby,
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  Speaker 1: Because maybe I'm projecting my own feelings, but I would
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  Speaker 1: never ever not pick up the twins. Ever, I'd have
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  Speaker 1: to be incapacitated not to pick up my children. Jeff, Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that point was definitely not lost
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  Speaker 1: on law enforcement between especially after understanding and gaining some
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  Speaker 1: visibility and clear y on the relationship between the mother
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  Speaker 1: and the son, it did appear that that to be
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  Speaker 1: a very standout, in significant moment, not the least of
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  Speaker 1: which also included the fact that they found the vehicle
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  Speaker 1: the next day. So those were two extremely telling indicators
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  Speaker 1: for law enforcement. What do we know about the moments
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  Speaker 1: of her disappearance? Listen to our friend at CBS eleven.
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  Speaker 1: This is Andrea Lucia. Security footage shows Prisma Rayas standing
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  Speaker 1: by an elevator at this Dallas department complex just before
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  Speaker 1: six o'clock Wednesday evening, talking on the phone. It is
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  Speaker 1: the last sign of the twenty six year old single mother.
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  Speaker 1: Mosquite police have been able to find her. Cheap wrangler
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  Speaker 1: was found parked in the same complex. Her mother, Lilia Batata,
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  Speaker 1: says this has never happened before. She last communicated with
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  Speaker 1: her daughter Wednesday at noon to warn her about the
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  Speaker 1: storms in the forecast that evening, she kept checking her phone.
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  Speaker 1: Badauda says she was looking to see if Rayas had
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  Speaker 1: sent her a message or a photo of her grandson,
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  Speaker 1: as she usually does instead, but out that later learned
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  Speaker 1: her daughter had never showed up at her friend's house
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  Speaker 1: to pick him up after work. Now Musquite police are
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  Speaker 1: trying to piece together what happened. It is unusual, I think,
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  Speaker 1: for anyone to maybe abandon a vehicle, and but really
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  Speaker 1: to not pick up their child when they're supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of our biggest concern is why
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  Speaker 1: she didn't pick her child up and you know, is
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  Speaker 1: she's safe? Okay, that's telling me something I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: with me. Ashley Wilcot, judge, trial lawyer, anchor at Ashley
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  Speaker 1: Wilcott dot com. Ashley, that puts her alive after six pm,
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  Speaker 1: and then she is reported missing after she doesn't pick
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  Speaker 1: up the baby at seven thirty. Now that's my understanding
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  Speaker 1: of the facts. In my mind. Before I hear that reporting,
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  Speaker 1: I thought she just didn't come back from once. That
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  Speaker 1: was one report I had heard, Ashley. But if she
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  Speaker 1: is alive and well at six and then she's not
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  Speaker 1: somewhere at seven thirty. That should really refine the timeline absolutely, so,
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  Speaker 1: as you well know, Nancy, in all of these cases,
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  Speaker 1: timeline is the most important thing because you've got to
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  Speaker 1: narrow it down to figure out and be able to
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  Speaker 1: focus the investigation. That significantly changes the timeline, so they
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  Speaker 1: can start focusing on where did she go at six
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  Speaker 1: o'clock and what happened between them and seven thirty. You know,
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  Speaker 1: and right now this is a huge, vast investigation because
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  Speaker 1: we don't know where she is during that timeline yet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge, big deal. Jeff Cortez, FBI
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  Speaker 1: Special Agent, Jeff, because if we're starting the timeline where
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  Speaker 1: I thought we were starting it at twelve when she
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  Speaker 1: goes to lunch, this buys me six more hours of
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  Speaker 1: knowing she's alive and well, now I don't have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about who she had lunch with, where she was
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  Speaker 1: at lunch and trk that down with receipts or ATMs
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  Speaker 1: or even you know, the on star in her car
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  Speaker 1: or serious radio. Now I can start at six o'clock
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  Speaker 1: if that reporting is accurate, that she's caught on video surbillance,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm looking right now at the video surveillance. If
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  Speaker 1: this is the same thing, and I'm pretty sure it is,
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  Speaker 1: she is. She has on a red it looks like
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  Speaker 1: an i don't know, like a soccer a professional soccer shirt.
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  Speaker 1: She is talking on her cell phone, she's got her
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  Speaker 1: pocketbook in the crook of her arm, she's holding her keys,
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  Speaker 1: and she's you know, walking around. It looks like waiting
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  Speaker 1: on an elevator in a parking deck, talking on her phone.
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  Speaker 1: If that's at six o'clock, the advancement of that timeline
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  Speaker 1: is highly significant. Jeff No, absolutely, and the timeline is
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  Speaker 1: critical to the investigative process. There's there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly the events leading up to six o'clock. So
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  Speaker 1: even where she was at noon and where those receipts are,
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  Speaker 1: what restaurant they might be coming back from, those are
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  Speaker 1: also critical because the events leading up to the point
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  Speaker 1: in which we last identify her location could be significant
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  Speaker 1: to painting the picture of where she is now. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: on spotting her, listen to ABC thirteen reporter David Goins,
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  Speaker 1: it's been four days, but it feels like it's already
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  Speaker 1: longer than then. When there are a few clues, Rudy
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  Speaker 1: Peralta fills his time instead with questions he cannot answer.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know where my sister's in, he says.
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  Speaker 1: He spoke with twenty six year old Prisma Peralta Reus
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  Speaker 1: about a week ago. Nothing eventful, just work and busy
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  Speaker 1: life as a mom to her six year old son.
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  Speaker 1: Deep was her baby, I mean, her kid was her world.
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  Speaker 1: Mesquite police says something in Prisma's world change Wednesday night
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  Speaker 1: when she failed to pick up her son from the
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  Speaker 1: babysitter after work. I just need that that's not her.
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  Speaker 1: Detectives discovered her jeep wrangler fifteen miles away, abandoned at
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  Speaker 1: this apartment complex just east of downtown Dallas near Hall
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  Speaker 1: and Ross. Prisma wasn't there, she wasn't entering her phone.
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  Speaker 1: Then on Friday, Mesquite investigators released this video. They are
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  Speaker 1: the last known images of Priestman, taken outside an elevator
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  Speaker 1: at that East Dallas apartment complex. Belie say they've counted
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  Speaker 1: the person that she's on the phone with and interviewed them,
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  Speaker 1: but haven't said anymore. I've seen that videos. It made
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  Speaker 1: me break down and made me just falling, you know,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that that's the last thing I could see from her,
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  Speaker 1: But Arlta says he looks up to his big sister,
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  Speaker 1: the first to go to college, inspany, a hard worker
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  Speaker 1: and dedicated mom. She's really muture, really smart, she's really funny,
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  Speaker 1: which is why he admits nothing makes sense right now.
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  Speaker 1: He hopes anyone who may have seen his sister around
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  Speaker 1: this complex on Wednesday will come forward and provide a
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  Speaker 1: clue that could help lead her family to answers they
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  Speaker 1: do not have tonight. I don't want to spend the
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  Speaker 1: rest of my life knowing that I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: have one older sister. Straight out to Dave Max, indicated
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  Speaker 1: talk show host Dave, what can you tell me about
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  Speaker 1: the timing of that video? Is it at six o'clocks
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  Speaker 1: and Nancy and it is crucial the location where this
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  Speaker 1: part deck is and why she was at that apartment
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  Speaker 1: complex you mentioned earlier. We don't know where she was
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  Speaker 1: between noon or roughly around lunchtime until we see her
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  Speaker 1: in the surveillance video at five fifty pm. It is
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  Speaker 1: the apartment complex of an ex boyfriend and the relationship
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  Speaker 1: did not end well, according to her sister. Prime Stories
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  Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace Photos Chrisma rayas posted on Facebook. The
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  Speaker 1: endearing caption reads, Dad, look at all of these memories.
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  Speaker 1: Very loving, very karen, very smart. Dan Fuchs is the
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  Speaker 1: dad she's referring to. He's her stepfather, but loves Prisma
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  Speaker 1: like his own. I looked at her just like she
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  Speaker 1: one of my own natural children. Dan said he was
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  Speaker 1: out of state driving his truck when he got the
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  Speaker 1: call about Prisma's disappearance. I just haven't come to the
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  Speaker 1: reality of it yet, you know, I just I'm just
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  Speaker 1: trying to keep myself busy, man, That's all I can
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  Speaker 1: really do. Police have been searching for the twenty six
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  Speaker 1: year old mother since Wednesday. That night, she didn't pick
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  Speaker 1: up her child from the babysitter since her son was born.
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  Speaker 1: That's her whole world. We are talking about a gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: twenty six year old mom, PRIs Mareus, who goes missing
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  Speaker 1: after work, apparently on her way to pick up her
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  Speaker 1: baby from daycare. You know another thing about her, to
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  Speaker 1: Robin will Let's ki joining me now Crime online dot
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  Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, is not only did she hold down
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  Speaker 1: a very responsible job as a paralegal, she also had
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  Speaker 1: been National Guard and that invokes the idea of a
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  Speaker 1: certain discipline to be in the military, and she had
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  Speaker 1: an excellent reputation and record with the National Guard. I
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  Speaker 1: find it very difficult to believe this mom, who had
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  Speaker 1: never once failed to pick up her child, didn't call
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  Speaker 1: in sick to work, didn't lay out whatever she felt
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  Speaker 1: like it, suddenly missus the pickup for her child. And
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I'm now learning she was National Guard
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  Speaker 1: gives me a different insight into her personality. Robin, you know, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: she's a very disciplined person. By all accounts. They have
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  Speaker 1: looked at her records. She shows up to work on time,
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  Speaker 1: she takes her son, the six year old, to the babysitter.
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  Speaker 1: She has a brother and a sister. She's in touch
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  Speaker 1: with the parents on a regular basis. This is not
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  Speaker 1: someone who is irresponsible. This is someone who is very
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  Speaker 1: responsible and Nancy, as you know, I lived in Dallas
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  Speaker 1: for many years. I just want to say something about
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  Speaker 1: the geography of this. She was living in Mesquite, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: which is a little bit more suburban, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: fifteen one five mile radiant from her home where she
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  Speaker 1: lives with the sun to the location where she's last
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  Speaker 1: seen on the videotape wearing the red shirt a soccer
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  Speaker 1: shirt as you described with the jeans. So fifteen miles
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a lot, but in Dallas, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: where the highways are very vast and there's just you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of road between point A and point B,
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  Speaker 1: there is terrain here to cover. Robin Willinski, jointing me
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  Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter. Then we get another
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  Speaker 1: development in the case of discovery of her vehicle seemingly abandoned.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Nancy. The car is found in a parking
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  Speaker 1: deck in Old East Dallas. This is fifteen one five
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  Speaker 1: miles away from where she lives in Mesquite, Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: you would have to go on highways and then a
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  Speaker 1: couple of small roads to get to where the apartment
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  Speaker 1: complex is an Old East Dallas and where she works.
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  Speaker 1: I understand it's kind of midway between the two between
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  Speaker 1: the home and where the car, the jeep Wrangler twenty
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  Speaker 1: seventeen model is found. But more can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: about that? Dave, Max and Kady talks to her us
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  Speaker 1: about the discovery of her jeep. Well, the jeep is
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  Speaker 1: actually located about a block away from the apartment complex
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  Speaker 1: that it was associated with. H she will cut, joining
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  Speaker 1: me as well as Jeff Cortez, FBI, Dave matt Ker,
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  Speaker 1: and start Robi Linsky to Jeff Cortez, what's the first
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  Speaker 1: thing the FBI would do with an abandoned vehicle given
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  Speaker 1: these circumstances. One of the things they're gonna do is
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna process that vehicle. So they're gonna be looking
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  Speaker 1: for fingerprints DNA. They're gonna be checking the position of
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  Speaker 1: the driver's seat to see if, in fact, a five
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  Speaker 1: foot two woman was driving it, or if somebody else
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  Speaker 1: was driving it. They're gonna be looking for signs of
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  Speaker 1: a struggle, any indication that this vehicle was part of
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  Speaker 1: some Let me go through everything you just said, Jeff Cortez,
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  Speaker 1: he is the former fed with the FBI special agent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through everything you just said with the
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  Speaker 1: fine tooth comb number one. When you said the seat,
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  Speaker 1: Remember Ashley Wilcot and Tara Grinstead's car, who a beloved
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  Speaker 1: high school teacher, beauty queen getting her master's degree, brilliant, beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: The works disappears, never seen again. She was a neat freak.
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  Speaker 1: Her home was incredibly neat everything in order her car.
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  Speaker 1: You know those people that their car still smells new
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  Speaker 1: after two or three years. She was like that. But
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  Speaker 1: when they got her car, Ashley, it was covered in mud.
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  Speaker 1: And just like Jeff Cortize is saying, the driver's seat
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  Speaker 1: was pushed back, nobody her size would have been able
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  Speaker 1: to hit the gas or the brakes, Ashley. That says
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  Speaker 1: everything to me, Nancy. You know, my very first employer
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  Speaker 1: got in my car when I was out of law school.
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  Speaker 1: We were driving to a deposition, and you know, he
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  Speaker 1: said to me, you could always tell a lot about
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  Speaker 1: a person by their car. I completely agree. But with
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  Speaker 1: the seat all the way back like that, that is
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  Speaker 1: a huge clue that it wasn't just her driving, got
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  Speaker 1: out of the car, got a wild tear, took off
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  Speaker 1: all of that in conjunction with this is a reliable,
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  Speaker 1: responsible young mother who's never not picked up her child,
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  Speaker 1: and the seats back like that, We've got a problem. Yeah, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to see mock up of her vehicle
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  Speaker 1: or the video of her the last known signing a Prisma,
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  Speaker 1: please go to crime online dot com. We've got the
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  Speaker 1: tipline and everything breaking in this story. Another issue back
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  Speaker 1: to d Jeff Cortez regarding the car, what would you
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  Speaker 1: look for if you were looking for signs of struggle,
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  Speaker 1: as you pointed out, if she was somebody who was
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  Speaker 1: more meticulous in her cleaning. I'm gonna look for something disrupting,
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  Speaker 1: something that suggests that the the items within the car
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  Speaker 1: had been moved around. I'm gonna be looking for tears.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you know, this is a relatively um
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  Speaker 1: small vehicle or smaller vehicle, but I'm gonna be looking
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  Speaker 1: for bloodstains. I'm gonna be looking for globs of hair, mud,
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  Speaker 1: or dirt, things that might otherwise seem out of place.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all of that is visible to the naked eye.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Cortez a FBI. What about that evidence that is
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  Speaker 1: not visible to the naked eye? Fibers. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 1: fibers that was that were used to connect all the
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  Speaker 1: victims in the Wayne Williams serial killer case first time
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  Speaker 1: in the country. I'm talking about the use of luminol
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  Speaker 1: to find possibly invisible to the naked eye blood. What
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  Speaker 1: else can you find in a car that would not
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  Speaker 1: be visible to the naked eye? Sure scent, you could
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  Speaker 1: find DNA fibers, skin follicles. You can find pieces of
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  Speaker 1: from an individual person that might identify a DNA that
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  Speaker 1: is different or unusual or inconsistent with the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the car. You know, speaking of the car and everything
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  Speaker 1: that Jeff Cortize is advising us that would be looked for.
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  Speaker 1: You know, also Jeff Cortize, you have to look at
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  Speaker 1: something like you're on Star which might be tracking you
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  Speaker 1: or some type of GPS in there that may say
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  Speaker 1: where the car has been before it was abandoned there.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of where it's abandoned, Robert Lensky Crime online
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  Speaker 1: dot Com, I'm curious because it means a lot. Was
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  Speaker 1: it down or ravine? Was it left out in the woods?
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  Speaker 1: Was it in a disley wooded area? Was it in
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  Speaker 1: a Walmart parking lot? You know a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: you hear of cars that are part of kidnappings or
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  Speaker 1: that have been stolen part of the very last spot
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  Speaker 1: in a Walmart or behind the grocery store where nobody's
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  Speaker 1: going to see it until several days have passed. What
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  Speaker 1: do we know about where PRIs moray As jeep was abandoned?
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  Speaker 1: It was in some sort of a parking lot area
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  Speaker 1: because the neighborhood where this apartment complexes in oldies Dallas
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  Speaker 1: is basically nancy three to four story apartment buildings, and
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  Speaker 1: it has lots of parking lots. It's not really a
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  Speaker 1: wooded area. There's basically apartment complexes and places to park
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  Speaker 1: your vehicle. So somebody would park it there and it
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  Speaker 1: would just blend in into dozens and dozens and dozens,
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  Speaker 1: maybe hundreds of other cars as the days pass. Where
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  Speaker 1: is PRIs montray As. One day after her disappearance, police
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  Speaker 1: recovered Rayz's jeep from the same apartment complex and say
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  Speaker 1: they've spoken to the person on the other end of
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  Speaker 1: Rays's phone call. I've seen that video. It made me
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  Speaker 1: break down, made me just following, you know, knowing that
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  Speaker 1: that's the last thing I could see from the Mosquite,
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  Speaker 1: Texas police say Rays seemed to be behaving normally. She's
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  Speaker 1: just talking on the phone. She doesn't not appear to
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  Speaker 1: be under drest or anything, but her stepfather says he
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  Speaker 1: is concerned that this video may show just the opposite,
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  Speaker 1: the way she was floundering, her arm and a lanyard
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  Speaker 1: for her Keith run. It's just a trait that she has.
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  Speaker 1: It is unusual, I think for anyone to maybe abandon
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  Speaker 1: a vehicle and but really to not pick up their
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  Speaker 1: child when they're supposed to. I think that's part of
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  Speaker 1: our biggest concern is why she didn't pick her child up,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, is she safe? And so that surveillance
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: video is critical, and this morning we don't know what,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: if any evidence, police have been able to gather from
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: her car. We do know, however, that calls to her
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: cell phone have gone unanswered. Her family and police are
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: desperate to find her. You're hearing our friends at ABC's GMA.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That was Marcus Moore. That's another issue. To Jeff Corteze,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it matters to me if when you dial a cell phone,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: if it goes straight to voicemail, if it continues to ring,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you go straight to voicemail. To me, that says is
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: dead or it's been shut off. If it's still ringing,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just anecdotal, and I think that's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: what that means. It means it's still working. If it's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: still working, you can get a ping off of it. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And that's going to be an early investigative step that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: law enforcement should be taking. And I would imagine did take,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and that is to triangulate and circulate around the cell
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: towers in which that phone might be heading off of two.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot judge, trial lawyer or anchor at Ashley Wilcott
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: dot com. Ashley, the cell phone records should tell us
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a lot. Cell phone records are some of the best
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: evidence because remember we can then see where the phone
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: last was, where did it ping, and how far was
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it from where she is Because wherever it pinged, wherever
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it was, then law enforcement can go to those locations
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to track her down. So cell phone records are one
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of the things that often can break a case wide open.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I keep looking at this video and again
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you can see it at crime on line dot com.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Some people have says she looks distraught. She doesn't look
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: distraught at all to me. She's got on um like
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: capri jeans or gene tights. She's got on black tennis
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: shoes with a white bottom. She's got her bag on
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: her arm like she may be going backs cooked in
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: her right arm. She's got a long key chain. It
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: looks like it's something should wear around her neck like
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: an employee. I d and again kind of a red
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: soccer looking shirt, and she's talking a lot of phone.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: She's just kind of wandering around talking to me, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I know all of you guys have looked at it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: To Dave, Max Indicated talks to her, she doesn't look
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: distraught at all to me. And she's not flailing her
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: arms around. She's just walking back and forth, shifting her weight.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It looks like she's waiting on an elevator in a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: parking debt. That's clear. It appears to be. But Nancy,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: here's the catch. Her stepfather, Dan Fuchs, actually made a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: comment specifically about how normal that appears to most people.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: If you've got a child, you know, they have different
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: tells when they're nervous, when they're upset, they do different things.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And Dan feuds her stepfather, who she referred to his dad.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: He says that that actually shows that she was nervous,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: there was something going on, because what appears to be
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: normal to you and me, we don't know her. He
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: knows her, and he said that that behavior actually showed
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: something was going on to him. You know what, you're
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: right as she will hut. I mean I can look
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: at John, Dave or Lucy, my twins and they can
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: exhibit a behavior that looks normal to somebody else, but
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I know it means something very different. Absolutely, you can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: look at a child, you can look at someone that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: you're related to, your own child, and you're right, you know.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: And I always say trust your gut because even if
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you don't know what it is, why they're acting different,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: why they seem different, you know, And the majority of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the time, if not every time, you are going to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: be dead on right that something's wrong. Guys, we are
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talking about missing Prisma Ress, twenty six year old mom.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Her little boy left at the babysitter. She always picks
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the baby up at seven thirty when she gets off.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So I want to talk some more about what we
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: can see in the video about the location of her vehicle.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Another issue I'm trying to find out about Robin Molinsky
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com is the nature and scope of
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the search because at the beginning they no one would
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: even say she was missing. Why is it, Robin. Whenever
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a woman disappears, everybody says, oh, she's run off with
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. She has not run off with her boyfriend.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It took some time before everybody agreed she's missing. Yeah,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that's nonsense. Set women are just running off into the sunset.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I don't buy it for a minute. This is someone who, again,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: who really has a regulated schedule. When you have your
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: kids at the babysitter, you pick them off so you're
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: not overcharged. Here's the bottom line. This is a woman
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: who abided by a schedule every day. She didn't just
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: run off into the sunset. That's nonsense. But what strikes
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: me about this video that is so specific. I've watched
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it a couple of times. The phone, Nancy, She's speaking
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on the phone, she's holding it in our hand. The
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: conversation is on a speaker phone. Are you talking in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a private conversation, a deep conversation with your lover or
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: your husband, or your boyfriend or a boss, and letting
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: anyone who would be walking by getting off that elevator.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: She has the phone on speaker in her right hand,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and the ID and the keys on that long lanyard
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: are in her left hand. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Robin, Robin,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So you think it's unusual for someone to talk on
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: speaker because hello, is it just me, Dave mac Because
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I've read all these suggestions that you should not ho
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: your phone right up to your head. Okay, I don't
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: want all those radio waves going through my head. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't care who's scoffing at me. They said cigarette didn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: cause cancer either, Look what about that? So I talked
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to everybody on speaker. Unless I can manage to steal that,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you're plug away from one of my twins who clutch
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it like it's gold. So I'm always on speaker. Everybody
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: hears everything i'm saying. I'm just saying. I'm sorry. You
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: have to hear me talking to my eighty seven year
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: old mother. He's hard of hearing. I have to scream. Okay,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, But yeah, I don't think that's ought to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: be talking on speaker? Is that? Is that just me?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Dave Matt No, I think it's normal. And actually, Nancy,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, while many of us we see that and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we wonder who she talking to, what's going on? Well,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the police have already talked to the person on the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: other end of that phone call. They're not telling us who, what, when,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: or where, but they already talked to that individual and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: then said it has nothing to do with this case. Okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Ash will caught. Did you just hear Dave Matt completely
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: ignore what I say said? What is it with men? Dude?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Can they not? First of all, cut Dave, Max, Mike.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear him right now, Ashley, what
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: is it not you, Jeff Cortize? Of course, because you're perfect,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: But what is wrong with them? I just said, I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: don't think it's weird che's on speaker phone, that I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: do it all the time because I don't want ear
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: cancer or brain cancer or any other kind of cancer.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Lord help me. And he just goes off on something else.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Did you hear that? I did hear that I did?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It was non responsive, darn it. So let me just
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: say with him, I completely agree with you. I'm on
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: speaker phone the majority of the time. Now. If it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in a bunch of people and it's rude, I certainly
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: take it off speaker, but I always use speaker phone.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: It's also easier because I can hold it right in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: front of me. Yeah. I can clear out a whole
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: room screaming into the phone trying to make my mother
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: hear me. No problem, Okay, let Dave mac back in
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: now he's spanked enough. So Cortez, did you hear that?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Jeff Cortize, what Mac just said that they've spoken to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the person she was talking to on the phone interview.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Then they whoever it is, they won't divulge it, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: they've spoken willingly. So that's really not helping me except
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: giving me a time another clue. Maybe that person knew
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: where she was headed. Man, it helps me a little bit,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I guess. Jeff Cortiz, Yeah, I think even identifying people
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: who are not facilitators in nefarious activity is helpful to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: law enforcement. So being able to cross names offul list
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: can always be helpful and is helpful, especially when you're
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: dealing with a missing person case. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Dan says it's out of character. Prisma would never run away,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and most importantly, she would never leave her son. Her
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: son he needs, he needs to have his mother. Police
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: release surveillance video of prisma last scene in Dallas. To
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: people who don't know her, it may seem normal, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: to Dan, he's analyzing every movement and worried she was
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in distress. The way she was floundering, her arm and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a lanyard for her keys round. It's just a trait
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that she has. He is hoping his daughter is safe.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I would love to see her, you know, I'd love
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to be able to give her a hug again, to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: bring her home. That's about all I ask. As you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: right or wrong, every investigation into a homicide or a
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: missing person starts close to home. I'm talking about your husband,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: your boyfriend, your ex, the guy that was your ex
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: three years ago, and you've got a t r against him,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: anyone close to you and your immediate orbit. And if
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that fails, you step out. Coworkers, neighbors, associates. Then you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: step out, and you keep going. End up with the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: pizza delivery boy, you end up with the guy at
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the grocery store, you end up with the bank teller,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and it goes on and on and on. Because normally,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: right or wrong, Jeff Cortez, a former FBI special agent,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: homicides occur by people that know you, not necessarily your husband,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: but maybe your husband, your ex, your boyfriend, and then
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you move out, ever so slightly. Statistically, that's true. Do
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you agree? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely that's the case. So in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that scenario, I want to hear first about the search.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: What is being done? Are they using k nines? Are
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they walking shoulder to shoulder with cadets? What has been done,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Dave Matt syndicated talk show hosts Two Fine Prisma Denise Matthy.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: They actually have done exactly as you describe. They've gone
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: door to door, canvassing the entire apartment complex that is
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: attached to this parking garage where we saw her on
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that video at five fifty in the evening. They've canvassed
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood. They've talked to everybody, every family member, co workers,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: pasco workers, They've talked with everybody at this point. There
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: it's an exhaustive search. Letscape police going door to door
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in the area where Prisma Denise was last seen. They
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: asked everyone to check security cameras and hopes of finding
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: more footage of her the day she goes missing. The
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: little boy, I understand is with relatives. What can you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: tell me, Robin Malinsky crime online dot com about where
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: where's the father of the little boy? Where does he live?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That is the big outstanding question. Let's talk about the search.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: To Dave Matt, you said everything has been done. I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: assume that may's looking at bodies of water if there
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is one nearby, bringing in tracker dogs, cadaver dogs, scent dogs.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: You told me shoulder to soldier shirts. Have they done
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: drone and air search as well? Dave Matt Nancy. What
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we've been told by the police thus far is that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they've done an extensive search around the apartment complex of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that thirty five hundred block of Roseland Avenue, which is
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: where her vehicle was found at what they referred to
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: as abandoned and where that video was taken of the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: CC camera that we saw. They've gone to every apartment building,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: every apartment, they've knocked on the doors. They've gone to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the other buildings along that same block, knocking on doors
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: to talk to anybody who has any information about the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: evening that Prism was last seen. Speaking of starting with
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a small nucleus, take a listen to our friend at
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: fox Ford, Dallas, says Alex Boyer. Right now, Mesquite police
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: detectives are going door to door in this area. They're
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: asking folks to check their surveillance video. They're hoping that
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: there's additional video of PRIs Mareyas from the night she
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: went missing in this area. Meanwhile, her mother and sister
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: are devastated. They're waiting for answers. Where is she? We
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: have to know? Still no sign of the devoted single
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: mother from his ski. It's hard seeing my nephew every
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: morning and knowing that he might not be able to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: see his mom ever again. Dallas police officers located rays
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Is cheap abandoned on Rosalind Avenue in Oldies, Dallas last
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Thursday morning. Surveillance video released by police places ray Is
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: at a nearby apartment complex around five to fifty Wednesday night.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Investigators have not said why they believed she may have
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: been there, but Rays' sister revealed a possible link. We
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: do know of an ex boyfriend that lives there and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: her car was parked the block from there. As Morelda
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Pilalda reported that information to police. She tells me the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: relationship ended badly. Let's talk about the obvious, the boyfriend.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott judge, trial lawyer or anchor Ashley Wilcott dot com. Ashley,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: he should expect to be questioned. That's just sp stenter
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: operating procedure. And I find it very probative that she
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: was in his apartment complex going to pick up the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: baby and the car was found not too far away
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: from the apartment complex. Ashley, Yeah, it does not give
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: me a good feeling at all, Nancy, A couple of things.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Number One, he should absolutely expect to be questioned, because
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: they should be questioning everyone that she has contact with
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: or known in the area, or that knows her. Second,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, the statistics part
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of it, most people. Things don't happen to most people
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: by strangers. Usually statistically, it's by someone that we know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: someone that knows us. And he would fit that bill.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: So he is a potential He's certainly a person of interest,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: if not a potential suspect. We know that in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: hours after Prisma Denise disappears, her sister called her on
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: her cell and it rang and rang and rang, going
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: to voicemail. Now the cell phone appears to be off
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: or the battery drained. That's significant, Jeff Cortiz, because right
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: after we note she was gone, and that's around seven thirty,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: when she didn't pick up the baby, the phone was
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: still working. How long Jeff, does it take to get triangulation. Well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean you could look at historical records to get
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: an idea of a general vicinity. If you're talking about
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: getting a precise location, Uh, you know that that doesn't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: take very long. But you know, there are court processes
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in place that you know, protect people from the government
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: being able to do that too seamlessly. Now in a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: missing person case, obviously there are some exigent circumstances that said,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: this being the same evening, the turnaround time on such
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a court order might might be hard to put a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: finger on that. And I don't really know at what
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: point the phone stopped working, so you know, the phone
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: does need to be operational for them to get that
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: close pings beyond just hitting off a cell tower. Another
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: thing we know, and correct me if I'm wrong. Robin
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: will as Kin, Dave matt Is, the person she was
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: talking to, has not only been identified interviewed, but they
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: have been cleared as well, according to the information that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: we're getting. Yeah, he's no longer he's not a person
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: of enter or she He or she is not a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: person of interest. They've already done the interview and has
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: said that that call has nothing to do with What
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: about the boyfriend. I don't know the boyfriend's name yet,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: that has not been released. But is he considered a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: person of interest? Nancy? At this point, I don't know
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: his name either, And I'm not even going to assume
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the police have talked to him, because you know as
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: well as I do, people lawyer up right away, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: knowing that this according to her sister, the relationship ended
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: badly infer and that what you want. But I'm going
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to assume that she's telling the truth and that this
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: guy is going to have already lawyered up, is not
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: talking to anybody, but we don't know that. Where is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: PRIs mut Denise Yes. If you have information, please call
• 36:02
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• 36:09
  Speaker 1: six Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,