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- 0:26Speaker 1: You had these folks who are way out in the
- 0:27Speaker 1: wilderness in the northeast corner of New Mexico.
- 0:30Speaker 2: There is one hope for the nation and the world,
- 0:37Speaker 2: and that is to believe in me.
- 0:39Speaker 3: There was nothing he could say that they would disagree with.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I am the second Coming of Christ.
- 0:46Speaker 4: He took two of the wives from two of the
- 0:48Speaker 4: men in the church.
- 0:50Speaker 5: Freely admitted they had with Wayne Bett.
- 0:53Speaker 6: I am fully yielded to him, and they left their
- 0:56Speaker 6: kids and their husbands.
- 0:58Speaker 5: One was his son's wife.
- 1:00Speaker 1: He was sleeping with his son's wife, and Wayne would
- 1:03Speaker 1: tell them it is God's will.
- 1:05Speaker 6: He molested everybody's hearts and minds. He destroyed a lot
- 1:08Speaker 6: of families.
- 1:09Speaker 5: There's starting to be these admissions to potential bocts with children.
- 1:14Speaker 7: He's my husband.
- 1:16Speaker 8: So you're twelve years old and you have a husband.
- 1:18Speaker 7: Yes, I love you. I love you.
- 1:23Speaker 2: The world thinks that you're hypnotized. But what you have done,
- 1:29Speaker 2: your great crime, is that you have believed me.
- 1:38Speaker 9: I am glad, I'm all might peril.
- 1:44Speaker 10: Amen.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Amen.
- 2:05Speaker 1: The world was going to end on October thirty first.
- 2:08Speaker 1: That was the day that everybody was counting down towards.
- 2:14Speaker 3: They were dooms.
- 2:15Speaker 11: They called.
- 2:15Speaker 3: They believed that the end of the world was coming.
- 2:18Speaker 2: We are no longer.
- 2:22Speaker 12: They all came out and sang songs, and they waited for.
- 2:26Speaker 5: It to happen, and it didn't happen, but it got
- 2:31Speaker 5: them attention.
- 2:36Speaker 4: It was like a magnet, and I got pulled into
- 2:39Speaker 4: the Lord r Rightishness, which was run by a man
- 2:42Speaker 4: named Wayne Bent.
- 2:44Speaker 2: But the sign of the Son of Man has appeared,
- 2:47Speaker 2: and it will get brighter and brighter and brighter until
- 2:57Speaker 2: the whole thing is burned up, the whole world destroyed
- 3:02Speaker 2: by fire. There is one hope for the nation and
- 3:11Speaker 2: the world, and that is to believe in me.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Broke away from the Seventh Aird and Cist Church. His
- 3:24Speaker 3: wife's just left him. So he decides, why don't we
- 3:27Speaker 3: go off and start our own group.
- 3:31Speaker 4: And we were drawn into it, and so that's how
- 3:35Speaker 4: it got started.
- 3:39Speaker 6: From the very first day that I was part of
- 3:42Speaker 6: this group. Jesus was supposed to be coming in like
- 3:44Speaker 6: six months, and I was seventeen, So why get an education, why,
- 3:54Speaker 6: you know, be successful at anything?
- 3:57Speaker 13: Why?
- 3:59Speaker 6: Because as Jesus was coming and then we would all
- 4:02Speaker 6: go to heaven. So at first we were in Idaho
- 4:08Speaker 6: and then Wayne ended up trading that property for property
- 4:13Speaker 6: in New Mexico.
- 4:16Speaker 3: You're driving on this dirt road for forty miles and
- 4:20Speaker 3: eventually you come to this gate.
- 4:22Speaker 1: You had these folks who are way out in the
- 4:24Speaker 1: wilderness in the northeast corner of New Mexico, and it
- 4:27Speaker 1: looks like little house on the prairie.
- 4:30Speaker 3: They were growing their own crops, they were living off
- 4:32Speaker 3: the grid. They were homeschooling their kids.
- 4:35Speaker 5: The name that we generally referred to the people out
- 4:38Speaker 5: there was either the Lord of the Righteousness Church or
- 4:42Speaker 5: the Strong City Compound or call.
- 4:45Speaker 3: He didn't object to the word cult, he said, I
- 4:49Speaker 3: don't object to that. It comes from the word culture.
- 4:53Speaker 4: It was very coldish. The church owns all the property.
- 4:57Speaker 4: What we did is we turned our paycheck over to
- 5:00Speaker 4: the church, gave them the whole check, and then they
- 5:04Speaker 4: in turn bought everything we needed. And we couldn't leave
- 5:07Speaker 4: because he owned everything, you know, and so we were
- 5:14Speaker 4: stuck there.
- 5:15Speaker 3: There's no going back. It's all or nothing, and so
- 5:18Speaker 3: all you want is for this guy to love you.
- 5:23Speaker 3: They're pussy in his hands.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Wayne went out for one of his walks out in
- 5:29Speaker 4: the woods, so he was gone for several days and
- 5:31Speaker 4: he came back, and that's when he told us that
- 5:34Speaker 4: God had entered him.
- 5:37Speaker 2: This is the revealing, the appearing of Christ.
- 5:40Speaker 14: This is what's happening now.
- 5:44Speaker 5: In me.
- 5:47Speaker 2: And in everyone who.
- 5:48Speaker 15: Believes my testimony. I am the second coming of Christ.
- 5:55Speaker 4: And that's when everything changed. When he spoke as God,
- 6:02Speaker 4: it was God, this is what we were told to believe,
- 6:05Speaker 4: and his word was word.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I want to tell you the truth. Heaven has come
- 6:13Speaker 2: down here. Just like Lucifer was in heaven a long
- 6:20Speaker 2: time ago and didn't see it, you have been in
- 6:24Speaker 2: heaven and haven't seen it, but you're seeing it now.
- 6:29Speaker 6: My mom came over one day and she's like, who
- 6:33Speaker 6: do you think Wayne is? And I was like, Wayne,
- 6:39Speaker 6: What she was getting at is that you know he
- 6:42Speaker 6: was God in the flesh.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Jesus, the Kingdom of God is in your midst and
- 6:51Speaker 2: is within you. So the whole world is making this
- 6:56Speaker 2: decision that you're making right in this room. For if
- 7:00Speaker 2: they hear my voice and respond to it, they have
- 7:09Speaker 2: the light shining in them. But if they will not
- 7:13Speaker 2: hear me, they are not God's sons.
- 7:18Speaker 4: He changed his name from Wayne Band to Michael.
- 7:21Speaker 15: Travesser Professor is where we live here. This is an
- 7:26Speaker 15: area called Travessor And Michael is interpreted one who is
- 7:34Speaker 15: like God. And in the scriptures, Michael was always a
- 7:39Speaker 15: deliverance angel. And so it's the work that I've had
- 7:44Speaker 15: to do here.
- 7:46Speaker 4: Of course, Seventh Day advertisby that Michael the Archangel is
- 7:49Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
- 7:50Speaker 8: You see that you're Michael and Michael the Archangel, that
- 7:53Speaker 8: they're one and the same.
- 7:55Speaker 4: Yes, So he was calling himself Christ by calling himself Michael,
- 8:01Speaker 4: and you didn't want to say anything against it because
- 8:05Speaker 4: you get kicked out and then you leave with nothing.
- 8:08Speaker 4: So we were living a life that was in denial
- 8:14Speaker 4: and we were trapped.
- 8:19Speaker 3: There were very internet literaate. They had two or three websites.
- 8:24Speaker 4: He said, we have to master the Internet, and he
- 8:27Speaker 4: put a lot of the church's talent and resources into that.
- 8:34Speaker 4: I think we probably spent a couple of million dollars
- 8:36Speaker 4: on our marketing. It brought in some good sized donations.
- 8:40Speaker 4: We ended up with a church in Costa Rica, we
- 8:43Speaker 4: had a church in Europe, and I think at one
- 8:45Speaker 4: point we had close to four hundred members worldwide.
- 8:50Speaker 3: And when he realized that these people were hanging on
- 8:54Speaker 3: his every word, that there was nothing he could say
- 8:57Speaker 3: that they would disagree with. Then he could do anything,
- 9:02Speaker 3: and he could twist this to his own ends.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Jesus has a new name now, it's Michael. Michael is
- 9:14Speaker 2: the Angel of deliverance. So the question is do you
- 9:22Speaker 2: believe me and do you have the answering chord within
- 9:26Speaker 2: yourself that these things are true?
- 9:29Speaker 5: And these followers you got to understand, these weren't just
- 9:31Speaker 5: uneducated people. There were people with master's degrees, doctor degrees.
- 9:37Speaker 11: And today I was sitting here and I just had,
- 9:41Speaker 11: I just think, a very very great love for Michael,
- 9:48Speaker 11: and it was just so strong. I the almost cry,
- 9:51Speaker 11: and I just it's just been so wonderful to have
- 9:55Speaker 11: those things on me, I think Father for.
- 10:01Speaker 5: And so it was kind of what was next, and
- 10:04Speaker 5: that's where this vision that came out to everybody. The
- 10:08Speaker 5: next component the seven Messengers or seven Virgins.
- 10:27Speaker 2: You see me, Everyone is seeing me, and I have
- 10:38Speaker 2: come down from heaven and I have come with all
- 10:46Speaker 2: of my holy angels.
- 10:48Speaker 4: Also, there was stuff in the scripture about the seven virgins.
- 10:53Speaker 4: He took that literally and manipulated everything to make it
- 10:56Speaker 4: happen so that he could say, I'm the guy.
- 11:00Speaker 2: My instructions were to do as I was asked.
- 11:04Speaker 4: He took two of the wives from two of the
- 11:06Speaker 4: men in the church, and they became his two witnesses.
- 11:09Speaker 4: So he was technically married to him, and they were
- 11:11Speaker 4: just hung on him everywhere they went.
- 11:14Speaker 2: It wasn't a secret. This was not done in secret,
- 11:17Speaker 2: and that's why we've made this movie.
- 11:20Speaker 8: Who are you? I told you I'm Michael's wife.
- 11:26Speaker 9: What is your name?
- 11:28Speaker 7: My name is Omian.
- 11:32Speaker 9: What are you a captive of this co leader that
- 11:39Speaker 9: is introvessor? And he won't let you go? That's right,
- 11:51Speaker 9: It's probably more like I won't let him go.
- 11:53Speaker 8: Okay, I love you, Michael.
- 11:59Speaker 5: You can see an in videos. They kind of sat
- 12:02Speaker 5: at his beck and call freely admitted they had with
- 12:06Speaker 5: Wayne Bett.
- 12:08Speaker 16: I am willing to let him bring me to be
- 12:10Speaker 16: naked and unashamed so that his son can come into
- 12:14Speaker 16: the very depths of my being. I am fully yielded
- 12:17Speaker 16: to him.
- 12:19Speaker 8: Who are you and I as your besser?
- 12:23Speaker 10: Hey?
- 12:24Speaker 8: What are you.
- 12:27Speaker 9: My witness to the appearing of Messiah?
- 12:29Speaker 8: Okay? Are you help captive here?
- 12:34Speaker 9: And you can't get away?
- 12:35Speaker 15: Now?
- 12:37Speaker 8: That's very funny. What would you like to ask me?
- 12:43Speaker 9: How is it that you're so beautiful?
- 12:48Speaker 15: That's my question.
- 12:49Speaker 6: Indeed, I knew both of the ladies. I knew their families.
- 12:55Speaker 6: They're my friends, and they left their kids and their husbands.
- 12:59Speaker 8: How do you feel about your mother being one of
- 13:01Speaker 8: the witnesses.
- 13:02Speaker 7: It's been really painful to have my family broken up.
- 13:07Speaker 7: It's like the consummation took my mom away from me.
- 13:10Speaker 7: It's it wasn't an easy thing. But when I look
- 13:13Speaker 7: at her, and when I see how happy she is
- 13:16Speaker 7: and how much she loves Michael, it's like it makes
- 13:18Speaker 7: it all worth it.
- 13:20Speaker 17: I remember the husband of one of them. He would
- 13:23Speaker 17: go out on the gravel road and I would see
- 13:27Speaker 17: about to shake it his fist at the heavens, so
- 13:30Speaker 17: angry at God.
- 13:31Speaker 11: Why why?
- 13:33Speaker 4: Why did Wayne take my wife away from me? He
- 13:36Speaker 4: was so angry, so lost.
- 13:39Speaker 18: Father is asking too much. Not only is he taking
- 13:43Speaker 18: my wife, but now he is asking Michael to make
- 13:46Speaker 18: love to her. I have been willing, reluctantly to submit
- 13:50Speaker 18: to my crummy circumstances. Father was going to have his way.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Men who've been married for decades remained even after Wayne
- 14:02Speaker 1: took their wives or their wives went to him, however,
- 14:05Speaker 1: you want to see it, and Wayne would tell them
- 14:08Speaker 1: it is God's will and you are being tested.
- 14:13Speaker 18: I could offer no explanation as to why I was
- 14:16Speaker 18: doing this thing, giving my wife and the mother of our.
- 14:19Speaker 8: Child to Messiah. I was simply following the father's inner promptings.
- 14:24Speaker 6: Wayne said that he came to divide families, right, and
- 14:28Speaker 6: so pretty much everybody left their husbands. He destroyed a
- 14:35Speaker 6: lot of families, a lot of kids.
- 14:41Speaker 8: Some people call it adultery.
- 14:43Speaker 7: Yeah, I know what the earth view of it looks like.
- 14:46Speaker 7: It looks like Michael committed adultery.
- 14:49Speaker 11: But I know that he didn't because he followed his
- 14:52Speaker 11: instructions and.
- 14:53Speaker 7: I believe him.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Everybody was google eyed. All the women were google eyed
- 14:56Speaker 4: over you.
- 14:57Speaker 5: One was his son's wife. He was sleeping with his
- 15:01Speaker 5: son's wife.
- 15:04Speaker 6: Wendy, his daughter in law, became one of Wayne's wives.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Jeff was, by the way, a former cop until he
- 15:11Speaker 3: brought into his dad's message that his dad was the
- 15:13Speaker 3: son of God. That's part of the test, right. He's
- 15:18Speaker 3: going to take these women away from their husbands and
- 15:21Speaker 3: then he's going to dare them to leave, and to
- 15:23Speaker 3: say that this isn't ordained by God, and he's going
- 15:26Speaker 3: to say this is killing me as well. It's killing
- 15:31Speaker 3: your wife, it's killing me, it's killing you. But your
- 15:34Speaker 3: pain isn't any more than mine or theirs.
- 15:37Speaker 4: My marriage with Lilian was, to actually believe it or not,
- 15:39Speaker 4: was the very lash marriage that dissolved there. We just
- 15:44Speaker 4: never ever in our whole marriage, our experience. But then
- 15:46Speaker 4: we never had crosswords, never a fight, and for me
- 15:49Speaker 4: to have flashed my wife is it was just a
- 15:52Speaker 4: horrible thing. Then he started doing the nude healings with
- 15:58Speaker 4: the underage kids, the skin on skin ceremonies. You know,
- 16:04Speaker 4: that was when I couldn't live with that, and that's
- 16:09Speaker 4: when I made the decision. I got to get out
- 16:11Speaker 4: of there.
- 16:17Speaker 10: Remember, I'm responsible for you.
- 16:24Speaker 7: Here, I am.
- 16:32Speaker 10: There, you are? What's on your heart?
- 16:37Speaker 2: What do you see.
- 16:41Speaker 7: That you're beautiful?
- 16:43Speaker 5: Wayne Bent would talk about that he had more authority
- 16:46Speaker 5: than a doctor, than a rabbi to heal and that's
- 16:50Speaker 5: where some of the children that got involved in this case,
- 16:53Speaker 5: they were talking about this idea of wanting to be
- 16:56Speaker 5: closer to God.
- 17:00Speaker 13: You.
- 17:04Speaker 15: I love you, I wanted to hear it.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 17:16Speaker 10: How that comes out of here and I love you,
- 17:26Speaker 10: That's why I'm here.
- 17:30Speaker 5: There's starting to be these admissions to potential facts with children.
- 17:37Speaker 5: They are legal names at the time. Lakeisha and Ashley.
- 17:41Speaker 8: What's your earthly name?
- 17:43Speaker 7: Keisha are twelve and.
- 17:46Speaker 8: What's the new name father's given you? What does that mean?
- 17:51Speaker 10: Daughter?
- 17:52Speaker 5: They weren't shy about it. They talked about what they experienced.
- 17:56Speaker 8: What is Michael to you?
- 17:58Speaker 7: He's my husband?
- 18:00Speaker 8: Your husband? Seeing you're twelve years old and you had
- 18:03Speaker 8: a husband? Yeah, what does that mean?
- 18:07Speaker 7: It means to one with him?
- 18:10Speaker 5: Lakeisha talked about you know. It came to her in
- 18:13Speaker 5: a message in July of two thousand and six. She
- 18:17Speaker 5: came in the middle of the night, approached his trailer,
- 18:20Speaker 5: asked to come in, asked to lay naked with him
- 18:25Speaker 5: where she said that she was healed by being skinned
- 18:28Speaker 5: to skin with God.
- 18:30Speaker 6: That's when I said, why isn't someone saying something? Why
- 18:33Speaker 6: isn't someone doing something like this is wrong? They're little girls,
- 18:40Speaker 6: he's an old man. Will they call it a healing ritual?
- 18:48Speaker 16: No?
- 18:50Speaker 6: If something is wrong, it's wrong. And if I think
- 18:54Speaker 6: something is wrong, I'm going to stick up for what's right.
- 18:57Speaker 6: And so I just went with him to the sheriff.
- 19:01Speaker 12: When I spoke with the girls, it was to talk
- 19:03Speaker 12: to them about possibility of testifying in trial. Actually was
- 19:07Speaker 12: a little more willing to tell her story. Lakeisha also was,
- 19:12Speaker 12: but she was more defensive of Wayne Bent. Lakeisha was,
- 19:17Speaker 12: you know, insistent that Wayne Bent is Jesus, is the Messiah,
- 19:22Speaker 12: and that anything he did or didn't do was okay
- 19:26Speaker 12: with her.
- 19:27Speaker 7: When I looked at him, he wasn't the way I
- 19:30Speaker 7: saw him before. He was different. Who I saw was Jesus.
- 19:37Speaker 7: He wasn't the person I saw before. He was Jesus.
- 19:41Speaker 7: And when I walked out the door, and all I
- 19:43Speaker 7: could do is cry because it was so touching and
- 19:48Speaker 7: sweet to me, I've never had it happen before. He
- 19:52Speaker 7: said that Father opened my eyes to see.
- 19:56Speaker 5: The acts they did were the result of suggestion.
- 20:00Speaker 12: And that's another way of saying grooming, And that's another
- 20:03Speaker 12: way of saying brainwashing or indoctrination, at.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Least to me.
- 20:10Speaker 7: One thing I know is that Father told him to
- 20:14Speaker 7: do it, and I know that I know that he
- 20:17Speaker 7: wouldn't have done it if Father didn't tell him.
- 20:19Speaker 2: To the world thinks that you're hypnotized, but what you
- 20:32Speaker 2: have done your great crime is that you have believed me.
- 20:46Speaker 5: So grand jury was convened in Clayton, New Mexico. Wayne
- 20:50Speaker 5: Bent didn't deny what happened.
- 20:54Speaker 19: We'd like to talk with you about those charges, if
- 20:56Speaker 19: you wanted to talk with us.
- 20:58Speaker 14: With Lakeisha, there was a connections that connection you said
- 21:02Speaker 14: it was, but you.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Were both naked together, So what kind of connections there there?
- 21:07Speaker 2: Put my hand on her sternum, never touched breasts, never
- 21:13Speaker 2: touched private parts, legs, but never touched you in this
- 21:18Speaker 2: part of any of them.
- 21:21Speaker 14: So they say that you did, are they like, well,
- 21:26Speaker 14: they just didn't. When they say that you did, are
- 21:29Speaker 14: they like did a Keisha?
- 21:31Speaker 15: Say that?
- 21:32Speaker 7: I'm asking you.
- 21:34Speaker 14: When they say that that did happen? Are they like, well,
- 21:40Speaker 14: I don't. I don't have any thought about that. So
- 21:45Speaker 14: when they say that, if if.
- 21:48Speaker 2: They, if any of them said I touched them on
- 21:51Speaker 2: the breast, it just did not happen. Well, mister Betts,
- 21:55Speaker 2: to be honest with you, don't believe. No, I don't
- 21:58Speaker 2: explain you too.
- 21:59Speaker 15: I mean about sending with girls.
- 22:01Speaker 12: If there's something about how with tiners like naked in
- 22:04Speaker 12: your bed, that obviously is I don't have it would
- 22:08Speaker 12: you agree.
- 22:09Speaker 15: With that's wrong.
- 22:10Speaker 2: No, not when God commands it.
- 22:16Speaker 12: Wayne Bent's attitude in his grand jury testimony was always
- 22:22Speaker 12: those are healing ceremonies. The girls came to me with
- 22:26Speaker 12: their own free will. No one forced them to be here.
- 22:30Speaker 12: I had contact with them, but never in a way.
- 22:35Speaker 12: He believed that the only law that was applicable with
- 22:37Speaker 12: God's law. And if God told him to lie down
- 22:40Speaker 12: naked with little girls, then he's just following God's law.
- 22:44Speaker 2: The world promises you many things, but it gives you nothing,
- 22:57Speaker 2: and I give you everything.
- 23:02Speaker 12: Our case was always very simple. It's very simple. The
- 23:05Speaker 12: law of New Mexico says you do not touch a
- 23:07Speaker 12: child on an intimate part.
- 23:10Speaker 18: The leader of a New Mexico sect scene here appearing
- 23:12Speaker 18: for a court hearing, claims to be the Messiah.
- 23:15Speaker 10: He's accused of being appropriately touching three underage female followers.
- 23:19Speaker 20: Is an innocent man who's being crucified by those who
- 23:21Speaker 20: have an agenda against him.
- 23:24Speaker 5: You were talking a lot about innocence in there.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Are you innocent?
- 23:27Speaker 10: Yes, sir, and tell us.
- 23:28Speaker 5: Do you think you've got a fair shakedown today?
- 23:32Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:33Speaker 5: Mister Ben.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Are you going to continue not eating or for the
- 23:36Speaker 4: present time. Is it a fast or is it.
- 23:39Speaker 5: As it's not a hunger strike?
- 23:42Speaker 8: Okay?
- 23:43Speaker 20: And the work God has given my father to do,
- 23:45Speaker 20: he has been at times required by God to come
- 23:48Speaker 20: into close physical contact with people. Sometimes he touches people
- 23:53Speaker 20: to heal them of a physical or spiritual problem. On
- 23:57Speaker 20: a few rare occasions, and only at the request of
- 23:59Speaker 20: the person who is to him, he has allowed them
- 24:01Speaker 20: to remove their clothing. This case is not about, as
- 24:08Speaker 20: the state would have us believe, it's about removing a
- 24:13Speaker 20: cult later the state once out of the way. It
- 24:17Speaker 20: is about crucifying someone the public finds offensive.
- 24:29Speaker 5: It was the biggest high profile case that we had
- 24:31Speaker 5: had in Taos, perhaps ever.
- 24:35Speaker 4: It was a Fiashgo It was a public Fiashgo Machio trial.
- 24:41Speaker 4: It was just awkward to be there and witnessed.
- 24:43Speaker 6: That he had his whole tribe around him, and one
- 24:49Speaker 6: of them was my mom. She disowned me at the trial.
- 24:55Speaker 4: As soon as I walked up to they all turned
- 24:57Speaker 4: around and face the other direction shunned me. One of
- 25:01Speaker 4: my best frien answers there. He looked at me and shaid,
- 25:04Speaker 4: I never knew you, and just turned around and just
- 25:07Speaker 4: broke my heart.
- 25:10Speaker 5: The only thing we really worried about is is you know,
- 25:12Speaker 5: there could be somebody on the jury that just had
- 25:15Speaker 5: that idea of freedom of religion. It was going to
- 25:17Speaker 5: be this was lawful freedom of religion.
- 25:22Speaker 19: Religions have practices, and they had the free right to
- 25:25Speaker 19: practice the religion. But when they break the law, that
- 25:28Speaker 19: is not practicing the religion, that's a crime.
- 25:32Speaker 5: Get religion out of your mind. Wayne Bent wasn't being
- 25:35Speaker 5: prosecuted for his beliefs. He was being prosecuted for the
- 25:41Speaker 5: harm that he did to these children. Defense spent, you know,
- 25:45Speaker 5: a good portion of the trial talking about the voluntariness
- 25:48Speaker 5: of the children coming to them in New Mexico under
- 25:51Speaker 5: the age of sixteen. They can't give consent to that
- 25:54Speaker 5: act with a sixty year old man.
- 25:58Speaker 13: Neither one of them is going to take you that
- 26:00Speaker 13: anything occurred, and what mister Bent is charged with is criminal.
- 26:13Speaker 8: Contact.
- 26:14Speaker 19: In the they would call miss houssare.
- 26:18Speaker 5: The parents. They were angry. They they were followers of
- 26:22Speaker 5: Wayne Bent, I think going on twenty one years. They
- 26:25Speaker 5: didn't want their daughters to lay naked with him.
- 26:28Speaker 19: Do you believe that Michael influenced your daughters to lay naked.
- 26:31Speaker 21: With him in a subtle way. Yes, what do you
- 26:36Speaker 21: mean by say, well, they didn't outright say come lay
- 26:40Speaker 21: naked with me. There was posts that said you need
- 26:44Speaker 21: to be naked with God, and if he's Messiah, he's God.
- 26:51Speaker 19: Thank you.
- 26:54Speaker 8: Do you trust Michael? I do, but I don't.
- 27:00Speaker 19: If you feel he had influence over your girls.
- 27:03Speaker 22: Yeah, you also said you can't trust your youngest daughter.
- 27:08Speaker 8: Why is that?
- 27:10Speaker 23: Mm, Because I feel like that soon as she turns eighteen,
- 27:14Speaker 23: she's gonna go back out there and Michael will probably
- 27:17Speaker 23: sleep with her. I'm sorry I didn't catch the end
- 27:21Speaker 23: of the day, and Michael will probably sleep with her.
- 27:25Speaker 5: Initially, Lakeisha wasn't going to testify, and I privately met
- 27:29Speaker 5: with Lakeisha. I told her, you tell us anything that
- 27:32Speaker 5: you want to say.
- 27:36Speaker 24: I told him that it was strongly on my heart
- 27:39Speaker 24: to lay naked with him, and that I wanted it
- 27:43Speaker 24: to be skinned to skin. I told him I need
- 27:50Speaker 24: I want something deeper. I want something.
- 27:58Speaker 5: I know it's hard to explain. Yeah, so you're talking
- 28:02Speaker 5: to Michael, you tell him what is on your heart
- 28:06Speaker 5: and what happens next.
- 28:11Speaker 24: Michael was quiet for a little while, and then he
- 28:15Speaker 24: said you may and then he asked me, are you afraid?
- 28:23Speaker 24: And all of a sudden I realized he really meant it,
- 28:28Speaker 24: and I excitedly told him, you mean right now and
- 28:34Speaker 24: take my clothes off and get in bed with you,
- 28:36Speaker 24: And he said yes, And so I asked him, I said,
- 28:43Speaker 24: but what about my parents? And he told me, well,
- 28:49Speaker 24: they said that they trusted me.
- 28:53Speaker 5: At that point.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Did you take your clothes?
- 28:55Speaker 7: Yes?
- 28:56Speaker 6: Okay.
- 28:57Speaker 1: What was Michael wearing.
- 28:58Speaker 24: At the time, Nothing, I don't think. Yeah, he was
- 29:04Speaker 24: not wearing anything.
- 29:06Speaker 5: Lakeisha's testimony with some of the most powerful testimony I
- 29:11Speaker 5: had in my career as a prosecutor. Did you ever
- 29:14Speaker 5: tell anybody that he put his chest on your chest?
- 29:18Speaker 24: Yes?
- 29:19Speaker 5: And did that happen?
- 29:22Speaker 24: He did put his chest on me, but he did
- 29:26Speaker 24: not put it directly on my breast.
- 29:31Speaker 5: Why do you give us that clarification?
- 29:35Speaker 24: I don't remember Michael ever touching my breast, and this
- 29:39Speaker 24: is one reason why I know he didn't lay on
- 29:44Speaker 24: his chest directly on me.
- 29:48Speaker 5: So, okay, you have this interaction with Michael, how are
- 29:53Speaker 5: you feeling at this time?
- 30:15Speaker 18: Did I love Michael?
- 30:21Speaker 5: You're on other statement, request a five minute recess. We
- 30:24Speaker 5: had to have a five minute recess where she just
- 30:26Speaker 5: broke down crying, said, but you know I love him.
- 30:30Speaker 5: I love him. It wasn't like a parental love. It
- 30:35Speaker 5: was something untoward. We didn't try in any way to
- 30:41Speaker 5: limit Lakeisha's testimony. We wanted them to know that Wayne Bent,
- 30:46Speaker 5: you know, had total control of them.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Do you want to go home? Yes?
- 30:51Speaker 22: Now if you go home, are you in any danger
- 30:54Speaker 22: from Michael Wayne Bent?
- 30:57Speaker 13: No?
- 30:57Speaker 10: Peace with you?
- 30:59Speaker 3: Know?
- 31:00Speaker 4: Thank you?
- 31:00Speaker 8: We have nothing to.
- 31:04Speaker 5: Ashley. She was different than her sisters. Her sister was
- 31:08Speaker 5: still in full full belief, but Ashley was angry at
- 31:12Speaker 5: the time.
- 31:13Speaker 8: Did you tell Michael you were nervous?
- 31:15Speaker 4: Yes?
- 31:16Speaker 7: Okay?
- 31:17Speaker 25: And and Ashley, why why were you nervous?
- 31:21Speaker 8: Because I was scared?
- 31:25Speaker 5: Okay, when you were when you were in Michael's bedroom.
- 31:31Speaker 8: Did he kiss you yes? Did he kiss you on
- 31:34Speaker 8: the lips, yes? Okay.
- 31:36Speaker 5: Did he kiss you anywhere else? Yes? And I know
- 31:41Speaker 5: it's difficult. Where did he kiss.
- 31:42Speaker 7: Him on the rest?
- 31:46Speaker 6: I want you to be very clear for the jury.
- 31:51Speaker 7: When when did I touch you?
- 31:52Speaker 26: Did he touch any.
- 31:53Speaker 13: Of the parts that are covered by this on your stuff.
- 31:57Speaker 19: On your buddy no?
- 31:59Speaker 11: Are you sure?
- 32:00Speaker 19: Yes?
- 32:09Speaker 2: Would you please state your name for the record wing Bent.
- 32:13Speaker 22: At any time or at any point, did you apply
- 32:17Speaker 22: any touch to any intimate private.
- 32:20Speaker 19: Parts of Ashley Sayer?
- 32:23Speaker 16: No, ma'am.
- 32:24Speaker 22: Are you very clear about that given the encounter that
- 32:26Speaker 22: you had with her that day?
- 32:28Speaker 2: Very certain?
- 32:30Speaker 22: And as to l s on the thirty first day
- 32:32Speaker 22: of July two thousand and six, did you apply any
- 32:37Speaker 22: touch anywhere on her body that would be considered an
- 32:42Speaker 22: intimate heart of her body?
- 32:45Speaker 8: No, ma'am, thank you.
- 32:46Speaker 15: Nothing further.
- 32:52Speaker 19: On that night, where you dressed when Laksha was.
- 32:54Speaker 2: There when she came into the room. Yes, I was
- 32:58Speaker 2: in bed. It was a hot summer night and I
- 33:02Speaker 2: just had my white undershort son in the bed and
- 33:07Speaker 2: that's all I had on when she came.
- 33:09Speaker 19: Do you recall whether you allowed her to come into
- 33:12Speaker 19: your bedroom?
- 33:14Speaker 8: Yes?
- 33:15Speaker 2: I did allow her to come in.
- 33:17Speaker 19: You never told her, you can't, you know, not to
- 33:20Speaker 19: come in my bedroom and get undressed.
- 33:23Speaker 2: I really stay away from telling people what to do.
- 33:27Speaker 2: I'm not their director, I'm not their dictator. I'm not
- 33:31Speaker 2: their controller. I've known Lakeisha since she was a baby,
- 33:37Speaker 2: and I've always taught the children follow your heart, do
- 33:44Speaker 2: what God tells you, don't follow me. And so coming
- 33:53Speaker 2: against her like that would be impossible for me to
- 33:56Speaker 2: do because it would be against my fundamental, reallyifous beliefs
- 34:01Speaker 2: for people to follow God according to their own conscience.
- 34:06Speaker 19: You didn't have a concern that a young girl wanting
- 34:08Speaker 19: to come in your bedroom in the middle of the
- 34:10Speaker 19: night and unclothe herself. There wasn't anything in your mind
- 34:13Speaker 19: that went off and said, well, this is wrong.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Oh no, I didn't have any thought that it was wrong.
- 34:20Speaker 2: My thought was that this could be troubling. And here,
- 34:26Speaker 2: I am, Can you stand up and show the jury
- 34:31Speaker 2: how you put your hand on her surnam?
- 34:33Speaker 11: Yes?
- 34:38Speaker 2: In Lakeisha's case, it was straight up and down like
- 34:44Speaker 2: this if I put my hand on the sternam of
- 34:48Speaker 2: somebody clothed. I'm not always so careful where I put
- 34:52Speaker 2: my hand, but in her case, I was being exceptionally careful.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Not to her in between any kind of with.
- 35:02Speaker 19: Her would actually have any reason. You heard her testimony correct, Yes,
- 35:14Speaker 19: And do you agree with it?
- 35:17Speaker 2: I think it's basically true.
- 35:19Speaker 19: Okay. So she said that you kissed her on the lips?
- 35:24Speaker 19: Is that true?
- 35:25Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but it could be true. It's
- 35:28Speaker 2: something I would do, Okay.
- 35:30Speaker 19: She also said that you kissed her on her breast here.
- 35:36Speaker 2: No, she in an earlier interview, she it was pointed
- 35:40Speaker 2: out the clavigal area. It was I never touched any
- 35:45Speaker 2: fleshy part of the breast.
- 35:47Speaker 12: He believed that he was going to explain.
- 35:49Speaker 20: Himself away to that jury.
- 35:51Speaker 12: He gets to go after it's all said and done
- 35:54Speaker 12: and say I got up there. I was the tireless,
- 35:59Speaker 12: fearless defender of God's word and man's laws. Decided to
- 36:05Speaker 12: convict me and send me to prison, much like they
- 36:09Speaker 12: decided to convict Jesus and send him to the cross.
- 36:13Speaker 5: This case is not about religion.
- 36:17Speaker 25: It is not about making a determination if mister Bent's
- 36:21Speaker 25: beliefs are correct, are wrong, if they're better than anyone
- 36:25Speaker 25: else's beliefs. This case is about mister Bent's misusing his
- 36:31Speaker 25: trust and authority over these two young girls.
- 36:35Speaker 5: He used his position of authority to cause these girls
- 36:40Speaker 5: to come to his.
- 36:41Speaker 25: Room so lay naked, and while they lay naked, he
- 36:49Speaker 25: committed criminals contact.
- 36:54Speaker 27: This is my new BFF.
- 36:57Speaker 22: Let me tell you why.
- 37:00Speaker 27: Because the state has to prove criminal.
- 37:06Speaker 6: Contact of them.
- 37:10Speaker 27: He would have had to touch intimate parts of the
- 37:15Speaker 27: body and both girls got on the stand and I said,
- 37:19Speaker 27: did he touch you anywhere on your body if you
- 37:23Speaker 27: were wearing a bikini that would have been covered by
- 37:26Speaker 27: the bikini, And the girls said no.
- 37:40Speaker 5: The jury did take their time in arriving at a verdict.
- 37:43Speaker 5: They deliberated two days.
- 37:48Speaker 19: Whatever the verdict is, I expect that there to be
- 37:50Speaker 19: ordered in the quorum and the court room. I don't
- 37:52Speaker 19: want any outbursts of any sort. I understand that there
- 37:56Speaker 19: will be some noise, but let's keep the noise to
- 37:59Speaker 19: minimum and let's conduct ourselves accordingly.
- 38:04Speaker 26: Data New Mexico County of Chaos District Court Daty Mexican
- 38:08Speaker 26: VIASUS Wayne Bent. We find a defendant, Wayne Vent not
- 38:12Speaker 26: guilty of criminals contact of a miner's charged in count one.
- 38:16Speaker 5: They didn't find him guilty of the Lakeisha count. They
- 38:18Speaker 5: had a holdout that just said freedom of religion.
- 38:22Speaker 26: We find the defendant Wayne Bent guilty of criminal contact
- 38:26Speaker 26: of a miner is charged in count two.
- 38:28Speaker 12: The outcome was guilty on the criminal contact as it
- 38:31Speaker 12: applied to Ashley, and the two counts of contributing to
- 38:36Speaker 12: the delinquency of a minor.
- 38:38Speaker 7: We find the.
- 38:38Speaker 26: Defendant Bet guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a
- 38:42Speaker 26: miner is charged in count three. We find the defendant,
- 38:45Speaker 26: Wayne Bent, guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a
- 38:48Speaker 26: miner is charged in count four.
- 38:50Speaker 12: Obviously, when I first heard it, I was a little disappointed,
- 38:53Speaker 12: but then you look at the big picture, it wasn't
- 38:56Speaker 12: completely surprising. Again, I think Lakeisha was very convincing, or
- 39:02Speaker 12: could be convincing to some people, and that may have
- 39:05Speaker 12: been the jury's way of saying, Okay, you know, we're
- 39:07Speaker 12: gonna defer to what she has to say.
- 39:10Speaker 6: It's the sentencing. He called me and all sorts of things.
- 39:15Speaker 6: He was not very nice. He molested our hearts and
- 39:19Speaker 6: our minds. It wasn't just those two girls, it was
- 39:23Speaker 6: all of this.
- 39:25Speaker 12: I was asking for the max and the reason for
- 39:28Speaker 12: that was just the whole dynamics of it, the absence
- 39:33Speaker 12: of any kind of remorse, the whole position of authority,
- 39:39Speaker 12: the grooming, the brainwashing, the indoctrination, and so I believe
- 39:43Speaker 12: that it was the type of case where the maximum
- 39:46Speaker 12: eighteen years was warranted. The judge gave us ten years,
- 39:51Speaker 12: and I was okay with that.
- 39:53Speaker 5: He's a lifetime defender. He has to register in any
- 39:56Speaker 5: state in the United States as a defender.
- 40:01Speaker 6: He didn't even get everything he deserved. In my opinion,
- 40:04Speaker 6: for all the destruction that he caused, he deserved more.
- 40:17Speaker 12: When he developed a skin cancer or some kind of
- 40:20Speaker 12: cancer condition. I'll admit it, part of me was sympathetic
- 40:23Speaker 12: because if it was true that he was terminally ill, well,
- 40:27Speaker 12: he's going to meet his maker.
- 40:33Speaker 6: Carol Kruger, the only reason that I was okay with
- 40:38Speaker 6: Wayne getting out of prison is because of Jeff, his son.
- 40:44Speaker 13: It was his death.
- 40:47Speaker 6: Wayne took my mom away from me, and I felt,
- 40:54Speaker 6: you know, eight years is long enough to have your
- 40:58Speaker 6: parent taken away from you.
- 41:03Speaker 4: I wrote a letter to the Bureau of Prisons asking
- 41:07Speaker 4: them to let him go, to let him out of
- 41:09Speaker 4: prison early so he can go and die with his people.
- 41:13Speaker 2: For now, the earth comes to its end.
- 41:18Speaker 8: It's over.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Now, we watch it pass away before our very eyes.
- 41:28Speaker 4: Cult experts say, once you've been in a group like
- 41:30Speaker 4: that for twenty years, you are unreachable, and I was
- 41:33Speaker 4: there in nineteen and a half. You get pulled in.
- 41:37Speaker 4: There's no matter how smart you are, you can get
- 41:39Speaker 4: pulled into this stuff because they see that you have
- 41:42Speaker 4: a need and they're willing to help you get that need.
- 41:48Speaker 6: The only people he has control over are the ones
- 41:50Speaker 6: that give it to him. They're followers, and they're going
- 41:55Speaker 6: to always find someone to follow it, whether it's him
- 41:57Speaker 6: or someone else.
- 42:01Speaker 4: I pray for him still to this day, and I
- 42:03Speaker 4: pray for all the people there, even after he took
- 42:06Speaker 4: my wife, and Lord, I just pray Lord, that you
- 42:12Speaker 4: be with these people and just love him, let him
- 42:15Speaker 4: know that you haven't forgotten him, and that you'll open
- 42:18Speaker 4: up a way for them to be able, hopefully to
- 42:21Speaker 4: come home back to their loved ones.