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Wired To Hunt Podcast #99: Talking Turkey · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number nine
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  Speaker 1: tann the show. We're taking a break from white tails
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  Speaker 1: and instead are focusing on our favorite credit to chase
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  Speaker 1: during the spring, and that's turkeys. All right, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sick Gear. Today,
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  Speaker 1: we're taking a break from our hardcore white tail hunting
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  Speaker 1: focused episodes and instead focusing on another species that's incredibly
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  Speaker 1: popular with US deer hunters, and that's turkeys. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the spring turkey season having been opened across a lot
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  Speaker 1: of states over recent weeks, and you know, continue to
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  Speaker 1: do so across most of the rest of the country,
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  Speaker 1: and the next week or two, it seemed that now
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  Speaker 1: was about as good time as any to talk turkey.
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  Speaker 1: And I get a lot of emails and messages asking
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  Speaker 1: for us to talk about other species like turkeys more often,
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  Speaker 1: especially from guys or girls that maybe haven't tried turkey
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  Speaker 1: hunting yet but are interested. And you know, how do
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  Speaker 1: you do that? Coming from a deer hunter's perspective. So
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  Speaker 1: that was kind of my idea for today. I thought
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  Speaker 1: we could, you know, share some of the things we've
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  Speaker 1: learned as turkey hunters, me and Dan walk through some
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  Speaker 1: of our stories and kind of give a deer hunter's
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  Speaker 1: perspective on how to get started turkey hunting and and
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  Speaker 1: kind of everything else falling under from there. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I kind of needed a day like this Dan,
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  Speaker 1: to just kick back and have a cold beverage and
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  Speaker 1: just talk turkeys. Know, we had a b S episode
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  Speaker 1: two episodes ago, but I kind of feel like I
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  Speaker 1: need that again today. So so I'm gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: do BS with a purpose today. That's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling. That's good because that works. Everybody. Everybody needs
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  Speaker 1: a little a bssh. Yeah. I just I just need to, like,
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  Speaker 1: I need to take some weight off the shoulders. I
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  Speaker 1: need to unwind, and um what better way to do
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  Speaker 1: it than talk about turkey hunting, which for me opens
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  Speaker 1: up in less than a week. What about you? Youth
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  Speaker 1: season is going right now. But before we get into this,
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  Speaker 1: I want to tell you something real quick, please do
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  Speaker 1: I was driving from work here, you know, I get
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  Speaker 1: off work and I come straight here and I go
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  Speaker 1: down this black top and on my radio, guess what
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  Speaker 1: song comes on. I don't know if you're probably not
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  Speaker 1: into this kind of song, but the song, uh Mother
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  Speaker 1: by Dancing. Have you ever heard that song? No? Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, are you kidding me? It's like it's hard rock,
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  Speaker 1: heavy metal mother tell your children not to hold my hand?
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  Speaker 1: That song? Now it rings a bell anyway. So that
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  Speaker 1: song got me thinking about a peanut butter and jelly
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  Speaker 1: sandwich that I made when I got home for some reason.
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  Speaker 1: And so I got an awesome song in my head,
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  Speaker 1: and I got a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in
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  Speaker 1: my belly. So I'm like jacked up ready for this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: So wow, So we're both like we're having to go
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  Speaker 1: yeah right, I mean, I'm I'm jacked. Oh, I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: These episodes are best when we're jacked and pumped up
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  Speaker 1: for them. Um, So I'm good. I'm glad that you're pumped.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like I'm coming off of like
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  Speaker 1: an adrenaline burst, and so I'm like kind of on
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  Speaker 1: the hangover effect right now. So we'll, um, we'll meet
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle. Right. It sounds good. And if
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  Speaker 1: you if you start fading, man, just holler at me
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  Speaker 1: and I'll pick you up. I'll carry you tacking out Dan,
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  Speaker 1: pick it up, pick it up? Oh man, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I actually I'm glad you threw me off the turkeys
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  Speaker 1: there for a second, because I should share why I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little exhausted today. Um, which is some exciting news
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  Speaker 1: which we'll talk about more. But last fall I launched
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  Speaker 1: The White Tail Q and A podcast as this secondary
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  Speaker 1: show I was running is a kind of short form
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  Speaker 1: Q and A style show, which I'm sure most of
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  Speaker 1: you know about. Um, But just recently I've announced and
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  Speaker 1: you might have seen this already if you subscribe to
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  Speaker 1: The White Tail Q and A podcast, or if you
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  Speaker 1: follow us on social media and everything. But long story short,
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  Speaker 1: have decided to excuse me. I've decided burp right now.
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  Speaker 1: I have decided to We are partnering with the guys
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  Speaker 1: that Drewy Outdoors, Mark and Terry and Matt Drury. We
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  Speaker 1: are partnering to kind of revamp that White Tail Q
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  Speaker 1: and A podcast, so we've renamed it the Wild Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing an audio version continuing like we've done the
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  Speaker 1: past but adding Matt Drury as a co host, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be bringing on Mark and Terry and other
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  Speaker 1: guys from the team as guests on the show. And
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  Speaker 1: then we're also doucing a video version of that podcast
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  Speaker 1: um and live broadcasting it when we record those. So
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  Speaker 1: today was the first live broadcast, so we had to
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  Speaker 1: go through all this stuff to get this thing up
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  Speaker 1: and running, and doing this live video version has been
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  Speaker 1: way more difficult than I think we thought. There's been
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  Speaker 1: so many different technical difficulties. We've tested like a million
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  Speaker 1: things and trying to get my video set up to
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  Speaker 1: work and look good. It's been like two headaches and
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  Speaker 1: a half. Um. So we had that first one today
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  Speaker 1: it went okay, nothing, nothing broke, nothing like totally embarrassed us.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess that's a win. UM. So more details
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  Speaker 1: to come on that. You can subscribe on iTunes and
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  Speaker 1: stitch you're just like you would have to any other podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and then you can watch the video version on the
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  Speaker 1: Drury YouTube channel. UM. But yeah, that's why I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of burnt out because that all happened today and now
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like who with all this this live streaming
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  Speaker 1: that's being done right now because I I do a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of that myself. Wouldn't it be really embarrasseding
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  Speaker 1: if you passed gas like really loud and it got
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  Speaker 1: broadcast to the entire world. What's bound to happen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna it's bound to happen, that's true. But I
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  Speaker 1: will say something. I worry that this live video stuff
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  Speaker 1: which everyone is doing, which is cool. I like it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's getting It's already getting almost kind of overwhelming
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  Speaker 1: just for me, like on my Facebook feed or everywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's just gonna get to be
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  Speaker 1: too much and then the noise is so heavy that
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  Speaker 1: then it's just I don't I don't know. Well, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have that, especially with any new technology. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's why I do it, because it's new and people
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  Speaker 1: are excited about it. But just like anything, there will
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  Speaker 1: be a plateau, and uh it will you know, everybody
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  Speaker 1: will go back to you know, things will settle, the
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  Speaker 1: dustal settle. But you know, as far as technology is concerned,
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  Speaker 1: it's Moore's law, right, every eighteen months something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Um, it is getting crazy though my Facebook feed.
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  Speaker 1: I feel I don't know what you think about Facebook
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  Speaker 1: these days, it's just all videos now. Yeah, I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: kind of down on Facebook just a little bit personally
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  Speaker 1: because there's like so much video stuff and like it's
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  Speaker 1: mostly from people I don't even know, and it's random
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  Speaker 1: like viral videos that are posted on Facebook now and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know. I've been spending a
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  Speaker 1: lot more time like Instagram is where I'm still getting
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  Speaker 1: like some stuff that I'm actually interested in seeing. While
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Facebook, I mean, Facebook is cool to
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  Speaker 1: stay up to date on, like some of the websites
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  Speaker 1: I like to follow and some of the things like that,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't really see like updates from people I
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  Speaker 1: really know or care about anymore. Right So, for my
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  Speaker 1: personal Facebook feed, it's pretty much just a place to
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  Speaker 1: post pictures of my kids for my family members. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really go on there, you know. My main my
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  Speaker 1: main focus on Facebook is obviously the blog and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, probably just like you as well, it
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  Speaker 1: blows my mind how much trash is on Facebook in
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  Speaker 1: my feed and how much trash people post meaning and
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  Speaker 1: I'll take it a stat father. You know the podcast
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  Speaker 1: that we do the company. Let's say I do a
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  Speaker 1: podcast about products. They won't post my blog the posts
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  Speaker 1: that you know, they just got done talking about their products.
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  Speaker 1: They just got done talking about um information that consumer
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  Speaker 1: might want to know about their products. They won't post
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  Speaker 1: that Facebook post on their feed, but they will post
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  Speaker 1: some dumbass meme about hey is it you know rutting
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  Speaker 1: and Strutton's turkey season? You know of some like don't
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  Speaker 1: you know, like some redneck with a case of beer.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they'll they'll post something like that, but they
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  Speaker 1: want It blows my mind. I don't frustrated. Yeah, I'm frustrated,
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  Speaker 1: but just you know, there's a lot of trash too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just like junk. It's just junk. It's becoming overwhelming. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's now it's more of like a how do
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  Speaker 1: we filter through all this to find a few things
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  Speaker 1: that are interesting and available? Speaking speaking of interesting and
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  Speaker 1: available things, I found on Facebook, did you see the
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  Speaker 1: picture I found of you? That was kind of funny.
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  Speaker 1: I found this news article with a picture of a
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  Speaker 1: guy sitting at like a Denny's that looked exactly like Dan.
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  Speaker 1: If Dan had some more tattoos, man, I tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: if it was a little bit more socially acceptable. I
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  Speaker 1: would definitely have a neck tattoo. Since when have you
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  Speaker 1: cared about social acceptable acceptability? Well, you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: children now, so instead of looking like a dad, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I had a neck tattoo, I might look like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I just stole this kid out of a car type.
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  Speaker 1: You definitely had that going for. That's passing judgment. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I uh, I think a neck tattoo
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  Speaker 1: would really just would would be sweet on me. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it very clearly says something about you. As soon
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  Speaker 1: as somebody walks up they know this guy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it says, but it says something. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: why does this guy have a care bear tattooed on
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  Speaker 1: his neck? That would be a legit neck tattoo. Many
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  Speaker 1: real quick, before we get to turkeys, we need to
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  Speaker 1: pause very briefly to thank our partners at Sick of
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  Speaker 1: last week, we're going to be changing things up with
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  Speaker 1: to begin sharing super short stories during this time from
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  Speaker 1: people who have had incredible experiences while out hunting in
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  Speaker 1: stories necessarily about gear at all. We're just looking for
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  Speaker 1: our upcoming segments. So with that said, thanks again to
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  Speaker 1: Sika for making this turkey talking episode possible. And now
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  Speaker 1: back to the show. Let's talk about turkeys. So why
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  Speaker 1: did you start turkey hunting? I'll be honest, the very
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  Speaker 1: first time I ever went turkey hunting was in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and to my junior year in college, so it
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  Speaker 1: would have been two thousand and one, spring two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and one. I think, how old are you at that
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  Speaker 1: point Spring two thousand and two. I'm sorry, I was
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  Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Okay. So I didn't do any
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  Speaker 1: type of any type of turkey hunting until one day
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  Speaker 1: my uncle because I transferred from one college to another
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  Speaker 1: college and I lived closer to my uncle, and my
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  Speaker 1: uncle's like, hey, you want to come turkey hunting with
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  Speaker 1: me this spring? And I'm like, yep, So shotgun hunting
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  Speaker 1: for turkeys And it was it was really fun. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So so we're both late onset turkey hunters. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: start till oh, gosh, I don't know. Probably hell now,
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  Speaker 1: I was probably twenty two. Maybe they have been turkey
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  Speaker 1: hunting for six years maybe now, um, But it was
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that the first time I ever
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  Speaker 1: tried it, I was like hooked. Yeah, it's it's definitely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what would you tell someone who's never turkey hunted?
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  Speaker 1: Somebody listening right now, Let's say if I had a
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  Speaker 1: guess based on we did a survey like this for
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  Speaker 1: the National Deer Lines. I should have pulled this up,
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  Speaker 1: but earlier, probably last year, we did survey asking people
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  Speaker 1: if they also turkey hunted, and I think something like
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  Speaker 1: seventy or eight percent of those deer hunters also turkey hunted.
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  Speaker 1: So if we assume that is the case, maybe seventy
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  Speaker 1: percent of our audience is already a turkey hunter. The
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  Speaker 1: other thirty aren't. What would you tell the other thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent who haven't tried it yet? Well, if they if
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  Speaker 1: they're wanting to hunt in my woods, I'd say it's
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  Speaker 1: not very fun. But if but if it, uh, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what there's nothing better, in my opinion. We
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  Speaker 1: had kind of had a conversation like this on the
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  Speaker 1: b S session that we did a while back. But
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  Speaker 1: it's pitch black, right. You're walking into the timber, you're
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  Speaker 1: set up in your blind, you're on a field edge
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, and then you sun starts coming up,
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  Speaker 1: the birds start tweeting, and you hear that first gobble
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  Speaker 1: and it just makes the if it's close, it makes
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  Speaker 1: the hair on the back of your neck stand up,
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  Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's it's very interactive. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what I why I don't understand why more people don't
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  Speaker 1: turkey hunt, because it's not really a lot of if
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  Speaker 1: you're a gun hunter, it's not a lot of sitting
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  Speaker 1: and waiting. Like for me, I'm I'm on the go.
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  Speaker 1: So if if I was to continue gun hunting, I
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  Speaker 1: would Okay, they're not coming this way, so now I
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  Speaker 1: gotta make a move. It's like it's more of a
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  Speaker 1: chess game for me than it is sitting in a
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  Speaker 1: blind waiting for something to come through. Yeah, yeah, so true.
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  Speaker 1: I think it can be that way. I mean, some
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  Speaker 1: people do hunt that way, so it's kind of nice.
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  Speaker 1: You can kind of pick your pick your poison. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can do the sitting and the pop up blind
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  Speaker 1: with a decoy set up and hang out, or you
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  Speaker 1: can running gun, moving around, hopping from set up to
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  Speaker 1: set up, hiking all over the place. And it's really
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just a very dynamic hunt. You can do
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  Speaker 1: so many different things with it. You can hunt them
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  Speaker 1: totally different one day than the next day. Try something different.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but with turkey hunting,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the steaks aren't as high and that
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  Speaker 1: and that I do it. Obviously I want to kill
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  Speaker 1: a turkey for the meat and to eat it, and
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  Speaker 1: it's also just for fun. But I don't put as
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  Speaker 1: much pressure on myself to try to target some big, mature,
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  Speaker 1: really really super smart turkey. Although I'm trying to become
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little more selective. Um, But because of that,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to take myself quite as seriously. It's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more laid back. It's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more fun. Last times, I go hunting with buddies, so
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  Speaker 1: like we'll go out together, sit together, call for each other,
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  Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. Um, you don't need to
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  Speaker 1: wake up as early in the morning at least for me, um,
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  Speaker 1: compared to what I do with white tail honey. I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to get out there, you know, just before dark
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  Speaker 1: or just before daylight while turkey hunting, while deer hunting
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  Speaker 1: him out there, like an hour and a half before daylight. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can take a nap in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the day if you want to sit out there
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit and lost of times you'll hear
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  Speaker 1: turkey and it'll wake you up. You don't need to
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  Speaker 1: be constantly scanning. Um. I mean you should, but if
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to take a napty could um. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just like a It's a nice way to get out
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  Speaker 1: in the woods in the spring, which is a super
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  Speaker 1: pretty time of the year to be out there as
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  Speaker 1: it's just warming up. The sounds are beautiful. I love
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  Speaker 1: the spring sounds. You got the turkey's goblin. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've got pheasants out here behind my house where I've
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  Speaker 1: been turkey hunting, their crowing a little bit in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: and all the other birds. And you know, you can
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  Speaker 1: you can be active and hunt, you can be laid
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  Speaker 1: back and hunt and then like you said, all the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the interactive nature of these birds talking to
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  Speaker 1: you and you're talking back and all that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it makes for a super fun, super fun hunt. And
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  Speaker 1: not to mention, if you do it right, they taste
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  Speaker 1: really good too. That's a fact. Jack love turkey. How
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  Speaker 1: do you like to cook? I can't. If we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about this before, I'm sorry, but I can't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we have. And we were talked about eating wild turkey.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean we probably mentioned it
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  Speaker 1: with the cooking podcast that we did with what's his name?
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  Speaker 1: But so my wife likes it when I make it
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  Speaker 1: into turkey nuggets. So I'll take a breast and I'll
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  Speaker 1: cut him up into like bite size, I'll bread them
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  Speaker 1: and then i'll fry him, and I turned him into nuggets, um,
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  Speaker 1: and then I put them you know, I'll make some
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  Speaker 1: kind of hot saucer barbecue sauce type, you know, wing
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  Speaker 1: sauce basically, and then eat him with some blue cheese.
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  Speaker 1: That that's that's what my wife likes. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: what I cook now. Um. I've also do the crop
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  Speaker 1: pop method, which well I'll take a breast and I'll
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  Speaker 1: cut it into like three pieces. Because for those of
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  Speaker 1: you who don't know, a turkey wild turkey breast is gigantic.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a turkey breast from the grocery store. It's
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  Speaker 1: like four turkey breasts from the grocery store. It's it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So I like to slow cook it a long time
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  Speaker 1: with potatoes and carrots, and then I'll make a gravy like, um,
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  Speaker 1: a mush a cream of mushroom type gravy too that
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  Speaker 1: that goes with it. And uh so those are two
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  Speaker 1: methods that I use. How about yourself? Sounds pretty good
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: before I Before I answer, do you just take the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: breast or do you eat the legs too? You know
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I've done I've done the legs one or one or
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: two other times before and I didn't get it right,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: So now I don't. But this year I am going
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I saw a recipe online and I'm going to take
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the entire bird this year. Yeah, I've got I've got
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a secret for you, a secret recipe that will make
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you enjoy those legs like never before. You'll have to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: post it online. I will, um it is it is
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the best recipe I've tried yet for legs, and I've
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I've been trying a lot of different things because I've
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: been wanting to, you know, find a good way to
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: use them. And like you said, it's easy to get
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: it wrong because it can be really tough, you know.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: That's that's you know, very muscle fibers in a wild turkey,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: so it can be super tough unless you cook the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: right way. So this recipe I found is in a
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: cookbook called A Field. Um, I cannot remember the author,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: but it's a pretty cool cookbook. And basically, you well
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it's called tomato braised wild turkey legs. Yeah, I saw
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you posted that. Yeah, I posted some about Instagram, I think, um,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: and basically you just well take a step back and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I keep I got the hiccups. I'm sorry. First, we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: brined the turkey legs overnight, So Brian's like a super
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: salty water and other vinegar mixture that you put the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: turkey legs in and brined them overnight, And we now
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: do that with breasts and legs. That seems to make
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: a huge difference on the tenderness factor. No matter what
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: recipe we do, we brine them first overnight and then
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the next day we go through the regular recipe process.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: So that's a little tip that we've kind of picked up.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: That's helped a lot with the wild turkey we eat,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: so we we brine it, and I cannot remember what
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: my wife puts in the brine, but if you just
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: look up online various different turkey Brian's, I'm sure you'll
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: find one. Um. And then you put in tomatoes and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other stuff, and then you you
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: braise it, which is essentially a slow cook in liquid
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: for like five or six hours or something. And when
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: doing that with the slow cook mixed with the very
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: acidic tomatoes, it breaks down the muscle fiber and those
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: turkey legs and the tendons and a lot of stuff
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and makes it so tender, like no knife required. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: could just pull it off of my fingers and eat
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the meat off of it. It was really really good. Um,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: by far the best recipe I've tried for wild turkey legs.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: So that's one definitely worth checking out. UM. And then
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I really like what you said. I like with my
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: turkey breast. Doing the nuggets is a great way frying
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: them up. That's a tasty treat. And then we also
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: do a pretty main wild white wild turkey white turkey
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: chili and that's pretty good. But again, everything if you
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: briand it first, it just seems to help a ton
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that tenderness, which is the big factor.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's the big thing with wild turkey that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: people get wrong and that people say they don't like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: wild turkey because of its because that's too tough. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: if you if you get that tenderness taken care of,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it's it's good good eating. Yeah, I agree. We always um,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: when whenever I cook the breast, I tenderize it with
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a mallet or a cookie dough roller. So just like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: smacking it really hardful long time smacking it hard, just
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a bit and um that that does a good job
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of tender tenderizing it as well. Yeah, that's smart. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think that's if you if you take that tip into mind,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: some kind of tenderizing treatment, I think you have a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: lot better meals from those from those wild turkey. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: so we talked about eating turkeys. Um, when did you
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: kill your first bird? Going back to the back of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the day you started hunting when you were twenty two
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: or so, take for you to kill your first, very first,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: very first season. I um, I have killed other than
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the year my wife was pregnant, which would have been
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: last year. Um, and then there was another season. It
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: rained every day of turkey season. I've I've shot my
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: turkey every year. So since since uh two thousand and two,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: there's either two thousand two or two thousand and one,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I killed a turkey every year except two years. Nice. Yeah,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it's a nice Uh. It's a nice way to get
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: some consistent diversity in your diet. Oh. Yeah, like you said,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think, at least for me, I don't know. I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: hear some people talk about how turkeys are like super
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: super smart and so difficult to hunt, and I don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: want to say they're not, because you need to do
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: things right and it's a challenge still. But at the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: same time, I feel like and and maybe this is
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: maybe that's completely wrong, but from my experience, once you
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: kind of have some basics down and you kind of
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: kind of solidify a basic level of calling expertise I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: want to say expertise, but oh, what's the right word here?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Just a certain standard of quality in your calling and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a few basic things like you can pretty consistently get
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a bird into at least shotgun range. Um, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: if you if you go out a handful of times
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a year. So, so yeah, since I started turkey hunting,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the first two years, I think I did not kill
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a bird. The first year, I just went out and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: sat with a friend who didn't really know what he
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was doing. Um. And the second year I went out
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: on my own, just trying to figure it out myself,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and had a couple of close calls but not quite
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: close enough. And then the next year I like bought decoys.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I bought my own decoys finally, and from there on
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: out it's been every year, multiple birds. Um. So it's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like I just had to kind of take a couple
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of years to figure things out and just kind of
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: wrap my head around it and then get half decent
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: with the call. And now it seems like, knock on wood,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I can get out there and there's gonna be a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: pretty good chance of fill in that tag if I've
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: got a couple of days to hunt. But you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: now I'm trying to take it, you know, like we
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: talked about the other day, trying to make it a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: little more of a challenge maybe, but with bow hunting
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or doing different things, they're traveling to different places of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: turkey hunt because it's a ton of fun, and I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: kind of now don't want my season to end so quickly,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, right right, I tell you here's here is
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: my very first turkey experience. So, UM, I meet my
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: uncle at this little this it's an old farm, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: my uncle and his brothers and my two uncles basically
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they built They build a little shack and it had
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: bunk beds in it and enough room for a cop
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: so it was real tight in there. But me another
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: buddy and UH, one of my uncles and my other
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: uncle lived close, so he drove. He drove from his
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: home every morning. But the very first morning, my buddy
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: went with my one uncle and my other uncle took
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: me and UH took me down to this river bottom.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: He we waited, We walked into the timber, waited to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: hear the first gobble, walked up to about i'd say
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a hundred yards to where um this turkey had gobbled.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: He sat me down in a tree. He backed up
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: about fifty yards and UH started calling this jake for yeah,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: this jake flew out of the tree started strutting right
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: in front of me. Boom. It was maybe six in
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the morning, Like it happened real fast. And that was
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that was my very first turkey hunt. Is that basically
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: how your turkey hunting process looks now, is that you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: basic just still Uh yeah, I mean so that for
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the most part, that's what I do. I mean, if
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gun hunting, obviously bow hunt. I haven't bow hunted
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: before for him, But like I said, it was my
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: wife was pregnant last year and I didn't hardly get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: out at all. But this, you know, if it's just me,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing is I'm waiting to hear gobbles. If
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm and this is if I'm gun hunting. If I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: waiting to hear gobbles, uh, then I make a move
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: on to where they're at still roosted in the tree,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and uh, I'll sit down and wait, and I'll try
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to get into a position where I can maybe get
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: some kind of response from them and then call them.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Most of the time they come right in as far
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: as mornings are concerned. Um, if they don't come right in,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: then I'm I'm doing a lot of running and gunning.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe move fifty yards or maybe to the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: next ridge, call a little bit, call a little bit,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: try to hear those responses early in the morning and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: then when it comes to the later in the afternoon,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that's when I do a lot of sitting and using
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: maybe some more decoys to try to get to try
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to get you know, something to cruise by me or
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: or get interested or I mean, it's just different. Every
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: years different. So do you when you're going into your
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: proper do you know, do you have a handful of
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: spots where you know that they traditionally roost So when
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you go out there opening day and the next week
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is that you're gonna go out there,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: are you going to go to this general area where
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: typically you know some of roosted in here and get
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: out there in the morning, listen and then from there
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: ad just what you assumed. Is that correct? Yep? So
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: this year is going to be different because I'll be
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't say this year, but my wife
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I go I go turkey hunting with my wife, um,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and she loves it because it's turkeys are ugly, they're
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: not dear, they're not cute, so she has no problem
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: killing an ugly animal. I guess. So. Uh so they're
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: kind of like, they're kind of pretty in their own way. Yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty, yeah, but have you ever seen
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: their face up close? I mean if I had a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: face like a turkey face, I wouldn't have my wife
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: right now, Dude, me me, My face on a video
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: podcast is like when you finally get up close to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a turkey head. That's why this whole video podcasting is stressful.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I gotta face for radio, dude, gonna sensor your face.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: They might need to someone. Somebody told me the other day, well,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I was doing a live Facebook feed that I look
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: like Roseanne from the Roseanne Show. Definitely don't look like Roseanne. Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: thank you, because I started googling Roseanne try to look
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: at pictures. I'm like, really, yeah, so why do we
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: even try? I don't know, I don't know, but sorry
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. So because I go uh hunting with
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: my wife now, um, she's not a huge fan of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the running gun type tactics. So I'll so like, let's say,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for example, next Friday is when the season starts, So
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon, I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna set a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: blind up uh for Friday morning, and I'll get it
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: close to where Turkey's historically roost in this particular field
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and they like to pitch down into it. So so sorry,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this is a field. You're set up on the edge
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of the field, right, So it's kind of like a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: cattle pasture. It's not an egg field. It's like a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: mix between CRP, but cattle have access to it. So
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it's a little overgrown, but it's not it's not a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: straight pasture and it's not straight CRP. And they fly
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: down in there and it's kind of in the wide
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: open and they like to strut from there to some
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: fields and uh to a different kind of horse pasture,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and they just kind of work this this high point
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and uh so what we do is we cut them off,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and uh that's where we're gonna go hunt this year.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So okay, so this is good. I think this is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you know, for those of you or thirty percent of
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you out there who have never turkey hunt before and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: maybe you're going to try, I think what Dan laid
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: out there is a pretty solid way to go about
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: getting started turkey hunting. That's very similar to what I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: do too. You know, once you have a property you're
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: gonna turkey hunt. The first thing I would recommend probably
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: doing is just like Dan said, go out there early
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in the morning and just listen and find out where
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: these birds are roosting. And I mean traditionally, and I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: want to take a quick stuff back. I am not.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think Dan would claim to be either. I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: don't think either one of us claimed to be expert
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: turkey hunters. No, we are not because Strickland were we.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: We simply are guys have managed to figure out some
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: way to have success. Um. But that said, um, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: go out there trying to try to hear where these
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: birds are gobbling, because they gobble off the roost when
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: they're when I say roost, if you're not familiar, that's
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you know. At night they go up and stay in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a tree and they stay up in that tree until daylight,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and then after daylight they will fly back down to
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the ground and spend their day in the ground. So
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that's why you want to go. They'll be gobbling one
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: they're off the tree. You want to find them when
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: there in the tree so you can get close to it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: And then, like Dan said, maybe you'll be able to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: get them to fly down and then work their way
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: towards you because they think you're a hen. So a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: couple of things to keep in mind when it comes
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to finding out where turkey's roost from what I understand, um,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: in front of scene, you know, turkeys typically like to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: roost on a large horizontal limb, if you know, if available,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: so lots of times. If you you know, maybe if
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: there's a big ridge with a bunch of old oak
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: trees on it, with some big old branches that come
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: off of that, that might be a terrific roosting location. Um,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that kind of spot is where you're typical going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: see those birds staying at night. And then they like
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to be somewhat close to some kind of strutting zone,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: some kind of field or open area like Dan mentioned
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in his case a horse pasture or something, or cow pasture.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Lots of times, one of the first things they want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to do is they come off the roost, they fly down,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and they want to work to a strutting area or
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: some kind of spot where they can strut around and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: hopefully find some hens. And you know this is this
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: basically this time of year, the spring is the turkey rut.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: You know, this is when you know they're trying to
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: find their hands and um, you know that's Basically, the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: simplest way to think about turkey on it is that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: right there, find where they're roosted, get as close as
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you can, and then try to get them to come
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: in your way once they drop down. Um, so I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: curious about your calling thoughts and techniques. When they're on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the roost, you get in there in the morning, you
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: get is well, actually, let's take stuff back. How do
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you decide how close you're willing to get when you're
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: trying to get over to that roosted the bird still
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the tree gabbling? What do you do? You just have
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a rule like a hundred yards is as close as
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you want to get? Or fifty or sixty or seventy
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: yards or do you just kind of wing it? Yeah,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: it's all. It's all winging because if you go too close,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: they'll see you and then they will not come in
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: your direction. Um. But so I like to I like
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to get into a position where they where. If I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: know where they're at, I know I can use terrain
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: or other object obstructions to get closer to them. You know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: if that's just me and a gun. Now, if I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: if I'm hunting out of a blind, I'm gonna hunt
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in an area to where I think they're gonna be going, so,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like a field edge or more of a
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: wide open space because turkey or not like deer, right,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: so they like a little bit more of a wide
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: open type of area to to do their strutting, because
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna see a turkey go through a multiflower
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: rose sticket, you know what I mean. So someplace where
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I have historically seen him strut in the past, which
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: is like field edges, fields, um cr CRP, cattle pastures,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So if I'm in a blind,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going to where they are wanting to go.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: And if I'm with a gun, I'm gonna get as
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: close to him as humanly possible while still in the tree,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and then try to get them as they fly down
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and potentially have maybe a decoy out to get their
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: attention or do some light calling to get them interested
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: in coming my way. Yes, let's talk about that. So
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: one of the things that I think I was screwing
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: up early on when I ever first started turkey hunting
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: is that I couldn't get enough of goblin. So when
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I could get a turkey to gobble I want to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: call right back, and then he gobble, and then I'd
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: be so excited I want to call right back, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: then he got obbowl and I do that, and I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: was overcalling, and those birds would never come to me.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: So so now I'm I'm really actually pretty careful about
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: not overcalling, and I'm much rather prefer too, to be
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: very strategic with just just enough to keep him interested
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: but longing for more. So you know, when it comes
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to when when a bird's on a roost and I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: get set up on that bird, I typically just like
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: to do enough calling, some light yelping, just enough so
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that I know that that bird knows I'm there. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: get a gobble from him or from all the birds
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that are there in that area, and once they know
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: him there, then I kind of shut up and I
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: wait for them to fly down. I just want to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: make sure they know there's a hen there, but they
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: don't get worried that maybe it's a hunter and then
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it's not legit. So I'm pretty careful. I'm pretty up
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: what's the right word, I'm struggling to find the right
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: word her, but but really limited in my early roost calling.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Once they come down onto the ground, then I'll give
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it to him a little bit. But again I'm much more.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I Oh, I don't know why I can't think of
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: the word here. I can try struggle to find the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: same word over our again. But long story short, I
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: let them want more from me rather than consistently try
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and get them a gobble over and over and over.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: What's your thought process on a mountain of calling? Do
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: you agree with me on that? Are you different? Well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it just depends on who I'm with, right, So like
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: if I'm with I've taken kids out before and kids
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: love gobbling, right, So if they're a new hunter or
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: my wife, you know, it gets excited because if you
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: just sit there and don't call, it's kind of it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, you hear a gobble. It's fun. But at
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the same time, UM, I want to try to be
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: successful as well, and there is a time when it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it's time to shut up. And that is if you
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: here for me is if a turkey is, if a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: turkey is if a toom is gobbling and getting closer
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to you as you call, I continue to call. But
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: if for some reason this turkey maybe um heading away
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: from you, then what I do is I will stop calling,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and I may even move my position backwards just a
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: little bit and then maybe do some more calling. Now
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: what that does, you know, there's I don't know if
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: there's any scientific fact to back this up. But what
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this does is it makes the turkey, the tom feel that, hey,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: that hen is going away and I need to go.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I need to, I need to, you know, go that way. Now,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not so I'm not sure of this this fact either,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but I think male turkey's gobble and in in nature,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the hands go to the tom's. Now that is okay, yep.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So what as a hunter, we're trying to do things backwards, right,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: we are trying to get the hams to come to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the hens, which is not it's not natural. So if
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Tom is with another hand, that's what you know, we
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: call that being hend up. And it's very hard to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: get a Tom to break off, you know, break away
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: from a hen, especially if he's the only time with
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the only hen. So it's it's very hard to get
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: them to break off and come your way. Now, you know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: if you sound horned up enough, you know, I've seen
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: some crazy things happen where Tom's do come to investigate
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and you know you got a shot there. But I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: tend to be aggressive in my calling, but then then
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: just go completely dead quiet. And I feel that that's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: where I had success over the years, is to get
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: them all horned up and then stop and then they're like, hey,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? Yeah, I think that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that's a spot on tactic. When they get kind of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: hung up. You know, when there's a bird who just
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: will not maybe they get to like eight yards or
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: whatever and they just will not come any closer because
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: just like you said, I think that's this exact situation.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They say, Okay, there's the hen she should come to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: me now. And I think when you when you just
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: shut up and then just wait, and then all of
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: a sudden, ten minutes later, bam, there they are right
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: in front of looking around that the headheld high, looking
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: around um, and that's when they That's when my favorite
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: moment in turkey hunting happens. When you get that gobble
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: from fifteen yards away that you had no idea was there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: That is awesome. And then there's another thing that it's
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: also important to know, right, So if a turkey sounds
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: like he's getting closer and you call, and you call,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and he's getting closer, and he's getting closer, and he's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: gobbling this entire time, and then he stops. You know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: if you're a relatively new hunter, you're gonna say, well,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: he went away, he's done. If they stop gobbling, that
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: means they're close and they're continuing to come in closer
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: because once they have identified where the calling is coming from,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: they no longer need to gobble, so so they're coming
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to your location. That's a good point I've found in
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: both ways. Like sometimes I'll have these gobblers that come
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: in loud the whole time, but then you definitely do
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: get those that that shut up and then keep coming
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: in but silent. And that's so true, like you need
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to keep your eyes on a swivel without moving um,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: but be ready. I would probably say for good, like
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: ten fifteen minutes. Even after thinking that bird has been
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: quiet and maybe isn't there around anymore, you should still
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: just just assume that he's coming in and be ready
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: for it, because they all of a sudden pop on nowhere.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And I I don't know about you, but in a lot
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: of cases, turkeys are like with a deer, they're they're
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a pretty big animal, and even though they're well camouflaged,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: if there's one getting close to you, it's usually you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: gonna know it. But lots of times a turkey can
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: just like sneak up on you because like most of
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: their body can be underneath grass and stuff. You just
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: see there's a little head that kind of pops around
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: above if they're in some kind of cover. Um, all
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, there could be one or right up
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: behind you before you even know it, if you're not
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: paying attention to it. So yeah, there's definitely, uh, there's definitely,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: you know, just like deer hunting man, there's there's tips
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: and tricks and things you've got to learn on your
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: own in order to you know, in order to be successful.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So true, Um, what kind of calls to use? Did
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I tell you what? I cannot use a mouth call
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: for the life of me when it comes to turkey hunting.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I suck. I suck at mouth calling. So I have
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: a box call and I have a slate call, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I mix it up based off of what
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: you know, what's getting them responding. But most of my
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: calling is done with a box call. I'd say, I'd say, yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: so you prefer a box called the slate, yep, I do. Interesting.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm the opposite. I'm not well to your point
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: with the reed calls, mouth calls, I'm not great at those.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit better. I've been trying to get
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: better at that, because there's something to be said about
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: not having to use your hands when calling a burden.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: So I've I've tried to get just good enough that
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I can use it, you know, in some situations. But
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I still prefer a slate most of the time. For me,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I feel like I have the most
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: control and I can just get the most accurate sound. Um.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know why that is, but it just seems
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of I don't know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I can just I've got a little more control over
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the sound than I do with a box call. I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: feel with the box is just like loud and squawky,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: while with my slate call, I can I can kind
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: of you know, I can purr, I can cluck, I
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: can yelp, I can do a bunch of little things
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: with It's essentially just working a pencil on this on
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: this slate, and you just can kind of finesse it
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and get different sounds, and for whatever reason for me,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that's what that's worked for me. Um. But the reads
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: are definitely a challenge. It takes a while to figure
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: out how to work your mouth to get the sound.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: You know. That's right. So we've talked about our favorite
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: calls and how we like to call. Um. Now, you
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: said you sometimes these decoys, sometimes you don't, right, And
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I always I always start out like in the morning,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: my first setup will be with decoys, right, and then
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: as the because sometimes when turkeys fly down off the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: roost roost, they all go in different directions, right, So
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the goal after they get out of the tree and
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: onto the timber floor is to meet back up again
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: with one another. The tom's and the hens. They all
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: want to be in this group, especially, so if you
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: can get close enough to where they pitched down and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: having you know they have the opportunity to see a decoy,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: they're gonna they're they're more likely to come in right
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: off the morning to you know, to uh meet up
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: with those other turkey. Yeah. So what's your typical dequeste? Um?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I I usually run a jake and a hand one jake,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: one hand and do you have a particular way you
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like to have them set up looking at you or
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a pet or heads up, heads down, anything like that,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily. I I typically have my hand decoy,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: she has her head up, and I try to keep
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: her as low to the ground as possible, and then
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I'll have the Jake decoy right like kind of off
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to the side of her and but close to her.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And that's what works. But I mean I've I've had
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: success with two or three decoys. Um, I've cut the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I've cut a slice out of one of my Jake
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: decoys and I attached an old fan that I had
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: from a previous turkey kill and made what looked like
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a full strut gobbler out of it. And uh, that's
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I've killed turkey over that. You know. I've also killed
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: turkey over um, no decoy. So it just depends it
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: kind of what situation if you were, if you're gonna
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: sit a lot and it's early in the morning, I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: use decoys. But after that I try to, you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: take the decoys out of the equation and then make
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: them think that they have they can't see it, so
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: you know, if they if they can see something and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: they're not terribly interested in coming in, then they won't
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: come in. But if they can't see it, it kind
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of gets them thinking, hey, what uh, what's going on
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: over there? They may be more likely to investigate. Yeah,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I've definitely had I feel like I've had both situations
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: where like I felt like, you know, some kinds sometimes
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: like you just said there, But on the other hand,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: sometimes they feel like I was calling a bird. He
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: gets within sight and they say, okay, I should be
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: able to see that turkey. Now where's the hen? Why
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: can't I see a hen? And then he won't come closer.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: So I feel like for me, I I always am
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: experimenting and sometimes adjusting and seeing that change, you know,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: make a difference right away. So first usually kind of
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: now after trying a lot of different sets with Jake's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and hens and Tom, I've kind of settled on. Usually
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I start with a single old strut Tom and hen
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: with the hen's head down like she's feeding, and then
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Tom behind her. But I will then gauge, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the turkey's behavior and how they react to that after
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a hunt or two, and then adjust. So the other
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: year I had a situation like that where I had
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: some birds come in. They saw it and it was
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: just too much. They didn't like that tom in there.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: They backed out, And I think that's sometimes kind of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a sign of the kind of like the phase of
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the ruts, sort of we're talking in deer terms, you know.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: The turkey mating season goes through a through kind of
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a process, consistent process every year too, so there might
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: be in a different phase sort of of where they
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: are in the breeding season. So sometimes those turkeys, those
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: tom's are a little bit more competitive and they're interested
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: in coming in and beating up on another town. Other
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: times of the year they're not as interested in it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: So I kind of gauge that based on how they
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: react to that Tom. And so if I see those birds,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: some gobblers or Jake's coming in, they see that tom,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: they don't want to have anything to do with them,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and then I'll remove it. Lots of times just leave
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that hand or put out two hands. And then sometimes
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that ends up being the trick, because I think you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: need to kind of pay attention to what they tell
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you and then adjust accordingly. But I personally have always
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I think I usually start with that tom and head
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and then and then go from there. But it's there's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: no there's no one size fits all, you know. When
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it comes to strategy for turkey, I almost I almost
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: think it's like deer hunting, but the information is processed faster,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you know. For you know, if you're after a buck,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you have to wait for him to come through, or
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you know they're not making noise. You know, you you
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: try to find out a pattern. I feel that with
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: turkey you can process that information faster, which allows you
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to make quicker decisions, which allows you to compress all
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that all that decision making into one day to get
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: on a turkey as opposed to maybe a couple of
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: days to get on a deer. I think there's a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: lot of truth to that. It definitely does allow you
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to speed up a lot of that process because of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the audio, Nate sure of it all. It makes it
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun too, That's right, that's the truth.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: So have you ever missed a turkey? I have never
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: missed one. But I did shoot one head on full
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: while it was in full strut and it it did
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a backwards flip somersault type deal and it didn't kill
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it and it ran away. So I hit I didn't
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: hit it directly in the head. I hit it basically
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: in the breast a little like in the breast, and uh,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: it just it was probably at about twenty yards, so
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it it got a lot of the load, but um
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it didn't you know, it rolled it over backwards. And
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it's like my uncle always told me, if the turkeys
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: in full strut and you and you shoot him and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: he doesn't hit the head, that's almost like a plate
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of armor for it. I mean all those yeah, a
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: lot of feathers that are bristled up, and uh, it
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: allows a turkey to kind of have a little defense
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: mechanism sort of. Yeah, that's very true, and that's why
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you aim for the neck and head. Yeah, if you're
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: hunting with a gun, if you're hunting with a gun, correct,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: if you're hunting with a bow, you want a more
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: mid body, You've gotta be careful about that. They've got
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: actually a pretty small vital area in the heart, lungs
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: area in the body. So it's worth looking up at
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a diagram to see exactly where they are because it
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: can be kind of tricky to pick up the exact spot,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: especially if you're looking at a turkey that is full
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: strut versus not um from the diagrams I've always seen it,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: it's usually helpful to look at that turkey's legs where
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: they come into the body and then go straight up
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: from that. No matter what angle the birds at from you,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: if you look at where the legs come into the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: body and then go up a little bit from that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that's a good kind of frame framing to look at.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: But I dan have missed three turkeys with a gun
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: or with a bow. Once with a gun, twice with
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: a bow. Um. My first bird I ever shot at
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: well was with my gun. No, no, let me take
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: that back. That was this is the first birds I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: ever shot at were with a bow. And I missed
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: both of them, one of them, I just well know
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: both both of them. I shot right underneath them. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: missed judge the distance and just shot too soon on
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: both of those birds and shot kind of right between
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: their legs, right underneath them. Uh. And they were both
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: probably a little bit too far than I should have
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: been shooting at a turkey. Um. And that was like
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that second season i'd ever hunted him. And then the
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: next year I went out with a gun and the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: first gobbler I called in that year. He had come
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: in and came in directly behind me. And the way
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I was set up, I was set up on my
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: back to a tree, not in a blind or anything.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I was just sitting up against a tree. And behind
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the tree I was sitting next to it was a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: huge pine tree, like a really thick, really big pine tree.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So that big pine tree kind of blocked a lot
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of my vision behind me. So it was this was
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: an evening set and I was sitting on the edge
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of a winter wheat field kind of where I thought
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: these birds might be headed back up towards to roost
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and low behole. You know. After yelping away, I finally
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: got one gobbling way off from the distance, um, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: it saw that he was coming by direction. But then nothing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything for like half hour forty minutes, UM,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and I was getting you know, closer and closer and
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: dark and heading or anything. And so finally I tried
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: another yelp again. And this is just like that situation
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I talked about earlier, Like ten yards behind me, Max,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: a gobbler just blows up right after I started help
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and he came all the way in. It was right
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: behind me, but he was on the other side of
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: that pine tree. Well, I can't move because I'm worried
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: that he can see I can't. I can't get behind
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: me because he sounds so close. I don't want to
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: turn because he might be within sight. But at the
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: same time, I can't see him at all because it's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: these pine trees right behind me. So I'm just frozen
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: there waiting. And as he starts coming up behind me,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I realized he's going to literally walk like right next
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to me, like he's gonna be within like almost like
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: armed distance. I can just kind of hear this like
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: slowly working towards me, and so I realized, Okay, he's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: going to walk right next to me, and he's gonna spook.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to have to do like a one
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: two three spin around and try to shoot him, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: like try to do all that in a split second.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: At least at the time, that seemed like the best
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: thing to do. So I just decided, okay, right when
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I thought he was like getting like close enough that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I could do this, I did the countdown and then
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I spun around and there he was like three yards
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: away from me, and I ripped the trigger and I
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: don't know what happened, but did not hit him at
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: all because he just went tearing off. And that was
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: my first mess with a gun. I was very upset.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: How do you miss a turkey at three hearts? I
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: felt like a real idiot. Um. But then like five
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: ten minutes later I heard another gobble and lo and behold,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I was able to call in three more birds in
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the last like five minutes of daylight before dark, and uh,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I got a really nice bird. Um. It came out
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: in front of me the way I was hoping the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: first one would. So that was how I killed my
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: first bird. Was I was missing one of three yards
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and then five minutes later getting a chance of a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: real nice one right out in front of me. So
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that's that was pretty cool. I have not missed one since,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: so knock on wood, Yeah, that might change the seif
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I go out with the bow again. I think I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: told you ever since I started dating my wife, and
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: it was like the first yeah, I don't even know
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: if we were married yet, and I took her out
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in the first two years I took her out. We
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: didn't hunt in We hunted in a blind in the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: mornings and then we just running gun all day. Well,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: now I know better to do that, But the first
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the first two years were it was a lot of
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: raining and a lot of walking, and I could look
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: in her face while she was behind me as I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: calling we're trying to get on in position for these birds,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: just not having any type of fun like the it
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: was just soaking wet. So I was surprised on that
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: third year when she decided, hey, yeah, I'll give this
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: one more shot. And that's when she got her first,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: her first turkey. And uh, it's kind of funny to
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: two toms came in at one time, and uh, so
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I'm coaching her through the I'm coaching her through the
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: uh you know, the tom's coming in all right, you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: all right, get your gun up. Are you ready? Did
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you turn off your safety? Your safety is off? All right?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you ready? And she's like yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: boom drops it just drops it right in its tracks.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And the other tim was kind of just hanging around.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: So I took the gun away from her and I started.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I pulled it up to shoot the other time, and
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: she jumps on me, giving me a hug because she's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: so jacked up that it kind of like the gun
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: kind of goes off and I'm and I have to
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: like adjust in my seat and put the barrel, you know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: line the sights up again, and then I shoot the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I shoot the next tom next to it. So her
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: first turkey was a double or a double for us,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and it was it was very it was like siding
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I had. So I'll tell you what, I have a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: lot of fun hunting with my wife, so I can
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: definitely see that. It's it's just fun too. I can well,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I have to turkey out with my wife too, but
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: it's just fun to turkey out with another person. It's
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: one of those types of things that you can really
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: enjoy with another person. Yep, Now hold on one second, dance.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: My cat is in the office of me. Okay, it
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: sounds like a pigeon. It sounds like a pigeon is
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: in your And I was just gonna ask you, hey, man,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: what's uh for somebody jack hammeron outside? But it's a
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: cat purring, the loudest cat ever, Cana. Her name is
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Bella Bella Okay, and she only has three legs. Really, yeah,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: she only has three legs. One of them well here's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm gonna remove her from the office
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna come back and tell you about that. Okay,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: so it's gonna take two seconds. I'll sing to everybody
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: while you talk. You talk to people. Okay, guys, now
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: that Mark is on, uh, let's let's talk really about
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: what we think of Mark Kenyon. Okay, I mean, if
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: you ask me, I think, man, I don't know. I
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: don't get him. And what were you saying there? And
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: that's why, you know, those are my five favorite things
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: about Mark Kenyon. I can't wait to go listen to that.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: When I edit, I was gonna edit this whole cat
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: section out, but I think I'll keep it. Not Yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: so the cat, she was sitting here on the chair
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and she was sleeping, and I was like, okay, you
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: know what, Like usually I make all my dogs and
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: my cat leave when we recorded, but she was sleeping
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: on the chair next to me. I thought, oh, she'll
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: be fine. But that was a big mistake because she's
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the loudest cat ever. When she purrs, she's got this
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like smoker's cough per So, so what happened to her
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: is she when we moved in this house. She was
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: like a barn cat that was in this barn behind
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: her house that my wife took a liking to. When
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: we moved in, the cat would come up my wife
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: with petter, and eventually she give her milk and food
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: and kind of started liking this cap and it would
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: be there like every day at our back door. And
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: then one day the cat disappeared. And at about the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: same time, a local trapper had told me that he
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: had asked if he could trap behind my house and
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I told him the day before that
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: yes he could. Um. Well, then the cat disappears, and
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: my wife is freaking out, what happened to Bella? Where's bellah?
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, and like it had been like, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, several days or something, and finally I was like, well,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it got caught in one of
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the traps. So I called the trapper and I said, hey, man,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: my wife's cat disappeared. Is there any chance that you
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: might have trapped that cat? And he's like no, no,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: and then it hangs up. And then that night the
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: cat shows up on our front doorstep with its back
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: leg just mangled. It was it had obviously been trapped
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and was just absolutely mangled. So my wife wigged out
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and took it to the vat and she decided that,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: you know, we it was either the cat had to
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: be put down or we had to pay to amputate
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the cat's leg. And my wife was crying and I
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't say no. So I spent all this money to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: amputate the leg of a barn cat that I didn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: have anything to do with until we showed up here.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: And now that cat is a house cat that we've
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: had for the many years since, and she's a great cat,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: but she is just really loud. So so that's that's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the story of Bella, and that's why you heard the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: loud purring pigeon for the last ten minutes. I do
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: not know what we were talking about before that, but oh,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I was thinking. One thing you mentioned
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that that one day with your wife was reigning, right. Um,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I'm curious about how you think different weather impacts turkeys.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: The one thing I've seen personally, well, there's two types
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: of weather related factors that have influenced my turkey hunting success. One.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like windy days because it's hard to hear
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the gob it's hard to hear turkey and it's hard
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: for turkey to hear you. So those are tougher days
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen. And then rainy days can actually
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: be good days because from what I've read, from what
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I've learned from guys that are actually really good turkey hunters,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: turkeys really like to be out in the open during
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the rain, even more so than usual because that rain
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: impacts their ability to hear stuff when they're in the woods,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: So they go out into the wide open so they
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: can see everything around them really well. That's where they
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: feel safest during a heavy rain. So you can actually
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: find birds a lot easier when it's raining because they're
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be almost always out in the open. Those are
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: two things I've learned about weather, anything that you've seen. Yeah,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: similar to what you know if it's if it's raining,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: or if it is really windy or even overcast. I mean,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I feel that those three scenarios prevent turkeys from gobbling
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and being vocal. Now, on the opposite end of that,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: if you have a really crisp, no wind, beautiful sunrise morning,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: those are when the turkeys go the craziest. Those are
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: days to be in the woods. That's that's right. So
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: what's your worst turkey hunting mistake do you think you've
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: ever made? Um? I don't know. Man, probably being too
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: aggressive and just trying to bulldoze right into where I
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: think they're at and you know, obviously not run full
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: sprint through the woods trying to uh go get them.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: But you know, probably I've I've been busted several times
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: where um, you know, because some sometimes they're heading away
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: from heading away from you. It's it has it's typically
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: in one of those days where they're not responding and
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: uh you know it too calls either it's windy or
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: training or it's maybe a little cast and I'm trying to, uh,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a move towards their location where
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I last heard him or saw him, and in the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: meantime they've shifted position and I have I got busted
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: by a hen or a tom or whatever, um going
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: to their location when they maybe a head flanked me
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, that's easy to do. Yeah,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: when they when they quiet up and then you start
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, at least for me, I once you have
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: talkative birds, you start just assuming that you know where
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: they are, but you then make the mistake and that
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: you thought they were two hundred yards away or whatever
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: because you heard them there a couple minutes ago, and
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: then you come around the corner and fifty yards aware
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: there is when you thought you were still safe to
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: be moving through there or whatever. So you just definitely
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: got to be I think I've tried to teach myself
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: to be a little more careful, Like you want to
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: be aggressive, but careful, because you can't assume that if
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: a bird's not talking, a bird's not there. You know
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So yeah, I've definitely made similar
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: mistakes or something similar to that. I was hunting with
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: my buddy Josh and he was one hunting. I think
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I was calling and uh, we were set up in
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the evening trying to we were trying to be close
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: to where we thought they'd be roosted, and it was
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: kind of a windy day and just nothing was talking
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: as they're heading back to roost and so I think
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know five heck, I don't
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: know what it was. It was getting to be pretty dark.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I was starting to think, I bet you that, Uh,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I bet the birds have already gone up to roost.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe nothing had been talking for like half hour forty
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: five minutes that we had heard one gob away off
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: distant a long time ago, but nothing now, and so
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: we're like, all right, you know, let's just call it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: So we stand up, and just as we stand up,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: we turned around, a big old gobbler goes running away.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: He was like twelve yards behind us, was right there,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: and uh, we just we didn't wait it out. We
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: didn't put in the whole time. We were going to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: bail out of there early. And because of that, my
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: buddy missed down and be able to kill his first turkey.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: So that was a bummer. But there's a lot of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: instances like that. I think that I've where I've spooked
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: a bird because I moved too soon, or you know,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I should have stayed put for a little bit longer.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But the one that I said, I guess the turkey
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: is that, at least from what I've seen, is they
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: might be a little bit more forgiving of those kinds
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: of mistakes than mature bucks are. Yeah. The uh, my
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: favorite is, you know, I I'm hunting all morning, I'm
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: going up and down these ridges and draws and chasing
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: these birds. And then I walk up and I have
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: my gun, um down, I take my I took my
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: bullets out of it already. I you know, every all
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: my calls are in my backpack. I got my head
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: down walking and um. I step out into the field
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and I look up and there are two tims and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: like one or two hens. The toms are in full strut,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: probably ten yards from my park truck. H oh jeez.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: So so they'll sit there and they'll get spooped at
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: a leaf fall in the tim, but then they'll go
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and strut by a tractor or a part truck. That's awesome.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be frustrating, yeah, but the cool thing about
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: turkey hunting is you can you can be unsuccessful with
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a bird and give them maybe thirty forty minutes, maybe
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: even an hour, and then those birds will go away
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to the next ridge. They'll get calmed down and they'll
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: start strutting again, and they'll start you know, they'll they'll
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: think that they're away from danger. They may not gobble
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: as much if you busted them, but you definitely have
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to call him in again, or or make
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: a move get around them exactly and get another shot
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: in that way. That's a That's a good way to
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: go about it, for sure. One other random thing that
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I just thought of. It is not related to what
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: we're just talking about at all, but I want to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: make sure we mentioned it before we go. Is one
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: tip related to calling that I found has been really
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: effective is mimicking a hen, and that if you hear
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: a hen, there's another hen with tom somewhere near you.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: You're trying to call that Tomin, but there's also a
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: hen that's making some noises to some me oping, mimic
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that hen, whatever noise she makes, make that noise, and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: then get more aggressive with it, and then just keep
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: going back and forth. If you can piss off a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: hen lots of times and they'll get so fired up
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: they'll come in and they pull on the town with them.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: I've done that many times, several times, I guess, just
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: in the last two years that I have gotten a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: hen fired up, brought her in, and then a town
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: was right on her tail. And uh, we got my
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: dad a bird like that last year, and we got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: a shot at to Tom's in Ohio like that last year,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: and then the year before that we did a double
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: May and my buddy Joshua hunting down on our Ohio
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: lease and we had one of the situations where two
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: toms came in together at the same time and we
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: did the one two three shoot and got them both,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: which was pretty cool. Yeah, that's always fun. So, yeah,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: that's that's something that I've I've heard from a lot
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: of people like that was something I learned from some
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: magazine and article, I right, or something that that I've
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: seen work very well in the field. So if you hear,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: if you hear a noisy ahead, get right back at her. Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Do you have setting Stone Turkey plans yet? What do
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know when you're going out? Yep. Um, let's see.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: In Iowa, let me pull up my calendar real quick
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: on my phone here. Um, let's see the youth season
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: already has started, and I believe I don't know if
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: it's I think it's like it goes in different seasons
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: for gun hunting now. Uh, I think it's I don't
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: know if it's this weekend or it's actually the eighteenth
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: where archery season starts. So for Iowa, you can buy
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: one archery tag and you can hunt from the of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: April all the way until I think May or something. Now,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: for gun hunting, you're limited to seasons, so like the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: first season is the eighteenth through uh, and then the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: second season is the third, fourth, and fifth, maybe the sixth,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and then the third season is then through. So the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: seasons get a little bit longer as the season or
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the Yeah, the seasons get longer as the month progresses,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: all the way into April, where I think the we
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: have a bonus week, and then the third season is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: to two weeks, I think something something like that, but
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: we always go the second week the second season, which
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: is the first weekend. So it's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the first weekend. You said, it's the it's the first
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: weekend that is available to hunt in those particular seasons. Yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: but it's it's considered second season. So that's what you said.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: April that opens, So is that April or seventh or something.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: You'll be out there. I'll be out there next weekend,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: not this weekend, but next weekend. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I will be starting to hunt next Monday, so a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: week from yesterday, and then my dad and Josh will
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: be coming into hunt with me that weekend that you'll
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: be hunting, so we'll have some fun hunting. God, I'm
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: just so ready to get out and do some hunting.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I've been struggling. Are you going to Ohio at all? Yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do a weekend song hunt here during the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: week next week. Then that weekend, Josh and my dad
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: will be down to hunt here, and then I think
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: the following weekend is when we're gonna go to Ohio.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: And so that'll be when I put out cameras, do
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: a little stand adjustments and turkey hunt is Uh, let's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: see here is Michigan in Ohio? Are they one or
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: two bird states? They're both one bird, So that's the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: same as Iowa. I know there's some southern states where
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  Speaker 1: I think you might be wrong. Ohio it might be
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  Speaker 1: a two bird state. Okay. I know there are certain
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  Speaker 1: states that are one one bird. There's other that are
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  Speaker 1: two birds, and I think there are certain states that
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  Speaker 1: there may be. Yeah, a five turkey throughout the entire
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  Speaker 1: year like so that that just seems like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of turkey. That's a lot of turkey.
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  Speaker 1: I do wish that I could take two in Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: UM two seems nice because like that's why I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this year, like for a number of years now,
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  Speaker 1: I've killed a bird within the first day or two
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm done, And so then i just end
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  Speaker 1: up going out with a bunch of other friends and
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  Speaker 1: calling for them, which is still fun. As long as
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  Speaker 1: I'm out there, I guess it doesn't matter. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: selective just so I don't end it too soon. But
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  Speaker 1: I've just been like getting Kevin fever, Like it's been
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  Speaker 1: such a kind of cold, crappy spring here, at least
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  Speaker 1: for us here in Michigan that I've just been dying.
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  Speaker 1: Like since shed hunting season, I've not had anything terribly
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  Speaker 1: fun to go do outside. So I'm just like I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready to get out there and do some stuff. I've
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  Speaker 1: been scouting, doing the work like that, but i want
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  Speaker 1: to be out there hunting, so I'm excited for that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very excited. And then when do you start your
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: bass master turning? It's no bass Master tournaments this year, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I will be trout fishing here and dude, I'm
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be heading out to Idaho and like five or
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: six weeks, I think. So you're going to Idaho for
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: one month, in Montana for one month. Yes, yes, so,
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  Speaker 1: son of a gun. Hello, I'm very excited. I'm very
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: excited about that, so counting down the days for all
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: that good stuff. But but I'm thinking we should shut
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: it down because you might be able to tell I'm
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: very stuffed up. I've got a cold, so I think
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I need to take some medicine. And I'm gonna be
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: going to bed kind of early tonight. So let's wrap
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: the sucker up. And before you guys go, just a
• 1:08:44
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• 1:08:48
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• 1:08:56
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• 1:08:58
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• 1:09:02
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• 1:09:06
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• 1:09:08
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  Speaker 1: And finally, thank you all for joining us today. We
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Hopefully it's got you stoked to do
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  Speaker 1: some turkey hunting, and if you haven't gone turkey hunting before,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: hopefully this will give you that little push out the
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: door to give it a try. So thanks again, good
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: luck hunting, and stay wired to hunt.