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S21, #2: Dating after The Bachelor · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. We welcome everybody. Welcome back, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: it's good to be back. It is good to be back.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a tough morning for me. I showed up
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  Speaker 1: excited to be here, ready to see you and ready
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  Speaker 1: to see our our beautiful team of people. I walked
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  Speaker 1: into drama. I don't know exactly what happened in the
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes you're here without me. Yeah, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a there's just a lot going on, a lot being
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  Speaker 1: thrown at. Mean, we'll get into that. We'll also get
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  Speaker 1: into this week's Bachelor atte um. But you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: coming off of a long weekend actually, and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to hear what is going on in your life
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  Speaker 1: right now. Well, there's a lot of work things. You know.
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  Speaker 1: This is my second podcast, I have two each week.
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  Speaker 1: My other one is the I Don't Get a podcast
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  Speaker 1: with my sister and my best friend and we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about things that we don't get. But you know I
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  Speaker 1: have is that a lot of things? Apparently, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: on episode twenty two now we come up with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things we don't get, um, but I have
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  Speaker 1: that I have this hosting stuff at Clever TV and
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  Speaker 1: a Access Hollywood. But other than that, you know, lying
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  Speaker 1: around enjoying my life. Are you dating? I just okay?
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  Speaker 1: So am I dating? I know everybody Whenever they asked
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  Speaker 1: me what are you doing? Like are you are you dating?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, honestly, I'm working so hard that I have
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  Speaker 1: zero desire to day on like the off night that
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  Speaker 1: I get to sit like get Postmates and be my pajamas, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I just am not interested in that, but I am
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  Speaker 1: interested in getting married eventually. So apparently I need to
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  Speaker 1: be concerned about this. So what's your strategy? So what's
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  Speaker 1: my strategy? Well, I'm on Hinge. Now there's that. It's
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  Speaker 1: pretty interesting. It's kind of fun because they're calling it
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  Speaker 1: the relationship app. Now it's not like Tinder where you're
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  Speaker 1: swiping for hookups. There's a variety of photos like the
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  Speaker 1: other dating apps, but then there's also a cute little
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  Speaker 1: like bio info, so it'll be like who do you
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  Speaker 1: want to have dinner with? Or who are like tell
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  Speaker 1: me how your parents met? So those are the kind
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  Speaker 1: of that's a kind of info on your profile. That's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So we've progressed as a society enough
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  Speaker 1: now from where we have a hook up app. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're just in the mood for a one night stand,
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  Speaker 1: you go to what I Think and then if anything
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  Speaker 1: else you go to this hinge. Yeah is it work? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So I just started using it about a week ago,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got a lot in my inbox, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys like in me. But I'll probably set up
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  Speaker 1: one day, you know, this week. What's your last day?
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about it. My last date was like three
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I'm not even sure it was a date. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean? Okay, this is actually something I
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  Speaker 1: was going to do on my I don't get a
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  Speaker 1: podcast because I truly didn't get whether it was a
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  Speaker 1: date or not. Um. He he was like flirting with
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  Speaker 1: me the night before. He's a mutual friend. He's actually
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  Speaker 1: a friend of yours. Oh okay, so he's a fellow
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  Speaker 1: bachelor alum. Yeah, and he texting me a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He just moved to l A and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: let's hang when I moved, and I'm like, okay, sounds good. Um,
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  Speaker 1: later in the week, if you want to do lunch
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  Speaker 1: or dinner, like, I'm good, Like Thursday, or Friday night.
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  Speaker 1: And then Jared happened to be here, my complication for
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  Speaker 1: the past two years. Yes, he happened to be here,
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  Speaker 1: staying with me as he always does. Just set in there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask any follow up questions. I'll
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  Speaker 1: just keep spewing info. Um. So then he invited this
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  Speaker 1: said guy from your Bachelor season to go to this
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  Speaker 1: concert with us. So we went to this event. He
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  Speaker 1: was really he was not like overtly flirting with me,
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  Speaker 1: but he kept complimenting me and saying how pretty I was,
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  Speaker 1: and how stupid year it is, and like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the same all the stuff that we usually get.
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  Speaker 1: So um. Then he said to me that night, he goes, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I still want to to have like one on one
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  Speaker 1: alone time with you on Friday. I'm this guy's got game,
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so, like it's a real date, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking in my head. And then I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting ready. I'm walking to the restaurant and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing heels and skinny jeans, like this is a
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  Speaker 1: date outfit. This is anate like getting a lunch with
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  Speaker 1: a friend outfit. And then I'm like walking up, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what if this is just a friend date?
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  Speaker 1: What if we're just hanging out? And then at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the night we split the check. I have
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  Speaker 1: to say. I grabbed the check and I grabbed it
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  Speaker 1: quickly because I didn't want to make it really awkward,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. And then we split the check, which means
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't a date. There was no conversation about who
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  Speaker 1: is going to take the check. We just split split it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say, h because I
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  Speaker 1: know who this is and I'm a little bit confused.
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  Speaker 1: I need some outside sources. So can we take a caller.
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  Speaker 1: I need to ask this person if if they believe
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  Speaker 1: this is a date or not. I got my buddy,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Strmberg on the line, formerly known as Cupcake Chrissy. There,
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  Speaker 1: come here. What's up? Then? Hey, buddy, I'm sitting here
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  Speaker 1: with Ashley I Connetti. You're on the almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: on I Heart Radio, and we're so excited to have
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  Speaker 1: you buddy. UM, thanks for having me. I you know
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  Speaker 1: you know highly I think of you, UM, and how
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  Speaker 1: I've told you many times. If I had a sister,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't, I would allow you to date her
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  Speaker 1: or want you to date her. Um, so Ashley and
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  Speaker 1: I are sitting here today and and her last um
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  Speaker 1: interaction with you was something that we're a little confused about. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: three weeks ago, you and Ashley went out to dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Correct correct can real quick and about two sentences? How
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  Speaker 1: did you feel about that interaction? Um? Yeah, I love Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: She's great. The more I get to know her, the
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  Speaker 1: more normal and cool she seems to me. We had
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  Speaker 1: a great conversation. Okay, Chris, was this a date or
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  Speaker 1: was it not? Was it a date? Yes? Oh? Uh man,
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  Speaker 1: you're putting me in a bad position here. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a date. It was a
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  Speaker 1: friend date. It was a friend date, right. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: The funny part is actually knew that all along. She
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  Speaker 1: never once was confused about that. You made me confused
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  Speaker 1: about it, then making you stressed out about this. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: who needs dating apps when you have the almost famous
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  Speaker 1: podcast to set you up? Chris, I love you, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for calling in, Thanks for clarifying. This is big
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  Speaker 1: for us. Actually, I have to apologize for something now
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  Speaker 1: I think very awkward. That was one of the most
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  Speaker 1: awkward moments I've had since The Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: I'm beat red right now. Well, hey, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: at least now you know right wants to date me
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  Speaker 1: like no one likes me. I think this is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a really good topic for a podcast going here.
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  Speaker 1: Is is Ashley's dating life, and I'm I think every
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  Speaker 1: week we're gonna try to find just that special guy
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  Speaker 1: to sign you on a date with. No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: get on a date a week. That's exhausting. What are
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  Speaker 1: you gonna do? Ashley? So moving on from here, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we just talked to Chris Strmberg and Chris Stranburg was
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  Speaker 1: was formerly known as Cupcake on on My season in
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor with Caitlin. I guess not my season The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: It's Caitlin season The Bachelor. At that I was a
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  Speaker 1: part of um. Cupcake is a dentist for a living,
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  Speaker 1: so he has his beautiful teeth, always has, always hopefully
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  Speaker 1: will um. But he's also known for one of the
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  Speaker 1: most historic crying scenes in Bachelor and Bachelorette history. So
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  Speaker 1: that brings me to topic today. I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about is this week on the Bachelorette, there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of criers. Um, I've been a crier on this show, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember if you've ever cried or not on
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  Speaker 1: this show or not. There's a better question. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a time where I wasn't crying on the show. That's
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  Speaker 1: a good question. I want to hear your thoughts from
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  Speaker 1: a female's perspective. Is it not just okay? But is
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  Speaker 1: it attractive when a when a man cries. It depends
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  Speaker 1: on the guy, and it depends on the instance. I
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  Speaker 1: like it when guys cry on The Bachelor's bachelorret Like
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  Speaker 1: I thought Nick's crying was actually super sweet and showed
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  Speaker 1: his like mushy, mushy insides that are really warm and wonderful,
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  Speaker 1: whereas on the outside he's like this hard shell and
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  Speaker 1: he like puts all these walls up. So I liked
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  Speaker 1: how it's telling of a person's soul. But like my sister,
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  Speaker 1: his dated guys and they cry like when they can't
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  Speaker 1: afford their rent, and that is disgusting really, like just
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  Speaker 1: at the other like a sorrow cry like I'm I
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  Speaker 1: need sympathy, or like I'm scared that everything's fallen out
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  Speaker 1: around me. The second Yeah, it's sad. It truly is
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  Speaker 1: but it's also like get yourself together and you know,
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  Speaker 1: let's like get a job. Actuley from Kentucky. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think about this? Um? I can't do boy cry
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  Speaker 1: very often. Like my I had an ex boyfriend who
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  Speaker 1: he kind of showed up on a spring break and
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  Speaker 1: like cried to me, and I was just was he
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  Speaker 1: crying about this spring break? Well, he was actually into
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  Speaker 1: a funny story. He was actually in another part of
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  Speaker 1: Florida and like drove in the middle of the night
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  Speaker 1: to surprise me. But it didn't go well. And this
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  Speaker 1: is when I was like eighteen or nineteen in Panlo City.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, should we just skip over the details of
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean gonna go? Okay? Okay, I'm good
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  Speaker 1: with that. I don't need to ask any more follow
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  Speaker 1: up questions. Yeah, um no, he just cried and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what to do because I'm not very sentimental.
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  Speaker 1: I like happy cry a lot, but I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: big sad crier, so I don't know how to handle it.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if I should like pat them,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. So I'm not honestly as a crier myself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to handle other people crying either.
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  Speaker 1: But that's because I try to put myself in their shoes,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm there in their shoes often, so I think, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I really want to be touched,
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  Speaker 1: because when people hug me it makes me cry more. Really,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see to both my Ashley's right now, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: a crier and love that. That's cute on you. That
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  Speaker 1: works for you. Maybe I just haven't had the right
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  Speaker 1: cry because I feel like I could deal with a
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  Speaker 1: thin cry, but not like maybe it was just one time. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the reason I cry is really, I think especially during
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  Speaker 1: this this experience of the Bachelor, or just in life,
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  Speaker 1: when your emotions start welling up, it's it's my only,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, reasonable reaction. Right, So when you get an argument,
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  Speaker 1: or you get frustrated with something, or there's a sad
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  Speaker 1: event in your life, you can either react in a
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  Speaker 1: negative way by anger or frustration. I hate that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but my reaction is typically to cry, to kind of
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  Speaker 1: take that time and release whatever heaviness is that I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling in my heart. Okay, so exactly. People are always like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, everything comes out in tears for you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, well, I'd rather it come out
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  Speaker 1: in tears and like soft sensitivity than me like channel
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  Speaker 1: it into rage or anger. I never feel angry. I
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  Speaker 1: very very very rarely feel great. I can feel annoyed
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  Speaker 1: sometimes and frustrated, but never angry. I get it. I
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  Speaker 1: get that. I never feel angry, though I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get quiet and then but again, a happy cry like crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost embarrassing, the happy cry, wedding cry. Well, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I hope that this podcast makes you happy cry from
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  Speaker 1: weeks on out. Actually, thank you for joining the almost
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  Speaker 1: famous podcast today. Thank you by so. Speaking of christ
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have asked this question
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  Speaker 1: over the last week to me after the first episode,
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  Speaker 1: is why are you partnered with Ashley I? And why
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  Speaker 1: is actually I partnered with you in this podcast? And
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  Speaker 1: I think our our listeners deserve just a really short
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  Speaker 1: summary of how we came together. And it's not because
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  Speaker 1: we both cry a lot. Yeah, because you don't cry
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  Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah. I think you've explained it well, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of. When we're coming up with the name of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast, you called it the Calm and the Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I have a little craziness to me too. I think
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  Speaker 1: we all do. You channel it way better, like you're
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  Speaker 1: able to really, you know, keep it in check. I
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  Speaker 1: can keep I have to like make it public. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot hide any of any of my personality traits. Mary
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  Speaker 1: Anne from San Diego had this question directly asked me today. Okay, Marian,
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  Speaker 1: are you out there? Yes? I am. Okay, So you're
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  Speaker 1: wondering exactly how Ashley and I, Ashley, Ashley, I and
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  Speaker 1: myself started on this podcast together, right, yes, yes, yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So your question just coming from like just interest or
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like this isn't gonna work. We'll be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I was a little when I heard the announcement. I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is kind of a kind of unexpected pairing because well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I love you too individually, but I never
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  Speaker 1: thought you two would come together for a podcast. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess my question is, yeah, how did the two
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  Speaker 1: of you decide to come together? And did you guys
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  Speaker 1: have to like screen or was it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like this right out and see what happens. Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's a great question, and I'll start in. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: can kind of um fill in with the parts that
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  Speaker 1: she knows, you know, Maryanne, months ago this came up
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  Speaker 1: in conversation. Kind of my desire to do UM a
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  Speaker 1: podcast with a couple of buddies of mine, or or
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  Speaker 1: to just kind of talk about life, to have that outlet.
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  Speaker 1: And as I was talking to some friends UM that
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  Speaker 1: I knew about this idea, they kind of threw it
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  Speaker 1: out there, why don't you do one with I Heart Radio?
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  Speaker 1: Because I Heart Radio is obviously the best place to
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  Speaker 1: do a podcast through UM. Through that, I Heart contacted
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I've known Ashley off and on through this
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  Speaker 1: whole Bachelor experience, but we've never really gotten a chance
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  Speaker 1: to sit down and talk about life together. And I
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  Speaker 1: think we do come from two different perspectives, both unique,
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  Speaker 1: both interesting hopefully UM, but two different perspectives. And so
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  Speaker 1: yes it is we will be the first to admit
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  Speaker 1: this is UM an unusual pairing, one that is unexpected
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  Speaker 1: maybe yes, definitely, but one that we hope, uh we'll work.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's where we're giving this shot. Actually have
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  Speaker 1: anything to add? I do? I have a lot to add.
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  Speaker 1: I think that people know me as like the crazy,
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  Speaker 1: over early emotional girl and the Bachelor, but that's also
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  Speaker 1: a caricature of myself and a lot of Bachelor family
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  Speaker 1: members know that I'm a lot more toned down or
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  Speaker 1: can be than what you always see on TV from me. Ben,
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? I agree, no, And and
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  Speaker 1: that's the best part about Ashley is she is She's
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  Speaker 1: she's complex, which I think is awesome. Um, And you
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  Speaker 1: have this this Ashley that gets you know, falls in
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  Speaker 1: love so hard and and not often but not often,
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  Speaker 1: but hard, and she lays it all out in the
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  Speaker 1: line for it. But then when you get her out
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  Speaker 1: of that, you know, romantic part of her life, she
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  Speaker 1: is more reserved and she's incredibly intelligent, which is a
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  Speaker 1: side that I think everybody will be able to see
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  Speaker 1: as this podcast progresses. Yeah. I think Ben and I
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  Speaker 1: have fundamentally the same values, a lot of the same
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  Speaker 1: personality traits, but um, sometimes just like the way we
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  Speaker 1: are in public acting on it is a little different,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. And so so as we move about here
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  Speaker 1: through the Bachelor, Marian, I want to first off, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for calling and thank you for asking this question.
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  Speaker 1: It really does help us because there has been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions asking me what exactly is going on here? YEA.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully that clarifies how this almost famous podcast got started. Yeah, definitely,
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  Speaker 1: and I just kind of want to reaffirm to you
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  Speaker 1: guys that yesterday I thought it flowed really well. It
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  Speaker 1: was very entertaining. You guys have big chemistry and banter,
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  Speaker 1: and I wish you guys a lot of luck and
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  Speaker 1: success with this. But I'm definitely tuning in and I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait for more. Thanks marian appreciated. Thank you. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Mariann brings up a good point there. She said a
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  Speaker 1: word they're called chemistry, right, which we've all tried to feel,
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  Speaker 1: uh in life, and we've all kind of touched on right.
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  Speaker 1: We've just talked to Chris Stramburg earlier, the dentist, and
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  Speaker 1: I felt like there was chemistry there when you were
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  Speaker 1: talking to him. I don't know if that's true or not.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like I haven't recovered from the redness because I
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  Speaker 1: think it wasn't a date because you put into the
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  Speaker 1: universe all you're like, isn't a day? Is a date? Like?
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  Speaker 1: It seems like he's open to it, but he just
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  Speaker 1: needs a little bit of a post It sounded like
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  Speaker 1: he was very hesitant of it when because he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know where you're coming from. Guys in general are insecure, right, Ben?
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, you know we we we mask this insecurity,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes in different ways. But every guy is there in
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  Speaker 1: that search for that special someone or they're kind of
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  Speaker 1: maybe lost, just not knowing if that special someone exists,
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  Speaker 1: has insecurities that kind of wells up inside them. I
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  Speaker 1: bet Chris was sitting there, like he said, in front
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  Speaker 1: of this beautiful person who he didn't know very well,
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  Speaker 1: who he just moved to l A, so his whole
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: life is changing, and he thought, I don't know if
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: she's ever gonna like me not. I don't know if
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I can compare to the guys in l are not.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And here you are grabbing the check paying for that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: was aggressive move, not a bad move, but an aggressive move.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Actually fail, it's a giant fail. Okay. See, let me
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: tell you this. When I'm on a regular date, when
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I know it's an actual date, I will never I
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: don't even reach for the check. And actually, Ben, this
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: is a question and an argument that I've had with
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Jared on the first date that's an actual set up date,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even reach for the check. But Jared said
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that looks awful and that I should just fake the
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: reach and then let him take it, let him take it,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and then offer are you sure? Are you sure? Hey,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I would love to pay for this with you. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: had such a good time tonight, such a good time
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that I would love to split this with you because
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be so many more times down
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the road that that's what you should say. Wait, you
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: want me to split, I will not split. Is literally
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a death sentence. Really, if you split, you're done on
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor's it because if you, if you, if you
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: feel like they're not going to pay, just pay for
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's it's been a long time since
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: seven on Dates, so that that might make sense that
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: split with girls. I can't remember, Ashley, it's been a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: long time. Like I said, um, well, hey, there's there's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a guy coming up today on this podcast that I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: would love too that I know you would love going
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to date with a guy, A secret guy. No, no, no,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it's not a secret. We're gonna be calling Luke pell
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with Luke. Hey, Luke, Yeah, I got a paradise for you,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: but I can it's fine. So we're gonna try to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: tame Ashley down for a second. We're gonna get her
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: some some cold water. Uh. She got very excited there,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I think. So later on the podcast we're going to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: talk to Luke. But before that, we got another caller
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: from South Carolina named Marissa Mercy out there. Hello, Hi Mirissa,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: this has been an Ashley on the Almost Famous podcast. Hi,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Hello Mersa. You have a question for Ashley? Correct? I do?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: All right? Shoot? My question is I am a virgin
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and I want to understand how like you don't like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: pressure is like not a big thing for you, it
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: seems like and you're not like two into a rush
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to lose your virginity. But I wonder if the influence
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of friends and family like make you think twice about
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: doing it quicker. Honestly, there's been like three guys in
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: my life that I've liked enough to say that I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: would have if I had gotten to a committed point
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: with them, um and and none of them wanted to
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: get to a committed point with me. So that's where
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I am. And I totally understand, and I know myself
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: well enough that I wouldn't. Well, first off, I don't.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have to make the decision to be
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like no, no, like in the heat of the moment,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like no, no, no, like don't do it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I just would never get to that point where with
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the guy that I wouldn't be okay with doing it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense. But does like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: your friends ever go oh? They tell you stories and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: then you're sitting there like, oh, wow, that's a very
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: interesting story, and you're like, I wonder how that feels
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: at the moment, and if I could do that story
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and be a part of that and tell that story
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to someone else, And it's like, have that experience? Has
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that ever crost your mind? Do you know? What's really
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: funny is that when I was in my early twenties,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I used to be really awkward when the subject of
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: sex would come up because a lot of my friends,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you know, at school, I didn't really know all those
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: details about me, and I didn't want them to know
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be outcasts like that. But
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: now ever since I've come out with it on the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and so many people know about it, I actually
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: love to listen to other people's stories And it's fine
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that I can't relate. I just think they're fun to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: listen to. Oh yeah, I have friends who tell me
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: their stories all the time. And I'm twenty one, so
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from too, And I hope
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that when i'm your age, I'm still a virgin and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: waiting because I don't want to rush it because I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: haven't really had a committed relationship, and my friends are
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I know, the type of people to tell me some
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of these craziest stories and I'm just sitting there like,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: how does that even possible? How do you do any
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of this? I know that I'm very emotional per sin,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and that when I like someone, I connect to them
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: very deeply. And I know myself well enough that I'm
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: not just going to do it with somebody that I'm
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: not going to have something really serious with. You know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You're you don't want your first time to be a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: one night stand. Oh absolutely not. And I'd like it
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to not be somebody that I'm just with for a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: month or two. I'd hope we had a real relationship.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'll do it until I get a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: committed relationship. At least that's what I always say i'll do.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You know, Marissa, you bring up a really good point
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and one that I've always been very interesting talking about
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: because I think UH, in our in our culture today,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: sex is a very taboo topic, right, so people feel
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: awkward or ashamed or insecure UM to talk about their frustrations,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: their confusions UM about sex. And so I think your
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: question today, not only UH, is really good for for
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Ashley and to kind of think through, you know, the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: just the stresses that topic puts on a person, but
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: also asking Ashley personally, like what are the stresses that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that's put on you? And and and have so many
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I can talk about podcasts on this, be honest. I've
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: gotten to this really weird point where now I'm twenty
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: nine and my upper twenties and guys are freaked out
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: by it. It's actually prevented guys from really dating me,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Like guys who would have dated me now they don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: really give me the time because they're like, oh, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: don't want to be responsible for that, or like I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to get involved with a girl who's going
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to get so clingy if this happens. And just last night,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and when I first heard it, I wasn't annoyed, but
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: then I started thinking about and I got really upset. UM,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: my friend, I go, why didn't you, UM, why didn't
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you hook me up with your your other friend? Like,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: why didn't you set me up with him? He's so
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: cute and he's like, I'm not gonna hoog him up.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hook my friend up with a virgin.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: How does that? I mean, this is a very this
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: is a very general question, but like, how does that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: make you feel? Not not just the pressures of of
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the X part, but as as a human that that's horrible? Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I was really sad, Like that sucks, Like that sucks
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that in our society because like you're moral and like
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: made this choice for yourself that like I'm being punished
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: by it. Sort of. Yeah, I get that because the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: one thing I know about you is is the person
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you are is a lot bigger than just that topic,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: right right, And I can't stand when guys make that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: topic so big. It's so big to them. Definitely, Well, Marissa,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: once again, I want to thank you for calling with
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that question. That couldn't have been easy. But like I said,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I want this to be a podcast where those kind
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of questions are able to be asked because actually not
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: here to talk. So Merissa, thanks for joining love it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I love you. Hey, have a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: great day, MARSA, thank you. But what a great question.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: That's a good question I can talk about. For a
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: long time, I didn't know, I can tell and and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's a question that you know, honestly, before I even
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: met you, actually I watched you on TV and it
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and it was kind of what defined you, right, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: coming off the Bachelor, that was who you were. That
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: was the stigma that they put to you, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: actually the virgin And and so enters into a topic
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about a little bit. Is coming
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: off the Bachelor, Bachelor or any show you do, any
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: reality television show, right, you're gonna be known as something, right,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: your character is going to be defined. What have those
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: pressure has been like for you? Well, that's been the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: biggest pressure. That's like the one thing that is that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: surrounds me forever. Like every guy I go on a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: date with can google me and find out them a virgin,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: even though like it's probably not time for him to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: know my sexual history. And it's definitely something that I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: have to admit. I was really open with UM Production
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: about going into casting because I knew it would set
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: me apart. I knew it I just knew if I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: was really open about that part of me, that they
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: were probably going to cast me. So I was like, Okay,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: let's talk about it. But I didn't didn't think that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make it such a big deal the show.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: People think it's not and some people think it's not true.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's why I stumbled there for a second, because when
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I say that I mentioned it casting. I remember my
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: first season was my first season, people were telling me, Um,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you just told them that so that you'd be famous,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: that you'd stick around, or that you'd have a storyline.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, you guys really think
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that this is what I want out like the people
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that I want my dad to be hearing about my virginity.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Of course, you'd rather be hearing about my virginity than
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: all the guys that is love with. But still it's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: a pressure. Perfect timing because we have a caller on
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the line who has was a part of The Bachelor
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: with with Jojo Luke pell Um. Luke is a guy
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I've just known a couple of met a couple of times,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: so I don't know Luke personally, but I know when
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: we talk about um kind of how your character gets
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: questioned by doing doing these shows are getting defined by something.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I know that Luke is somebody can speak to that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Lucy out there, buddy, hey man, you got Ben and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Ashley here. Um, thank you for joining us today. First off, yeah, absolute, UM.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So we've been talking for the last few minutes about
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: how coming off The Bachelor, Bachelor really really any reality
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: held in show, there's a ton of pressures and people
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: end up defining you by something they read, they find out,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: or something that the show portrays, and fairly or unfairly
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: or unfairly you end up living. Um. People end up
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: knowing you by whatever is being displayed. And I know
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: recently you've kind of had that happen, right, You've had
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: some articles come out about you that haven't been necessarily positive. Um.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But you don't really have now a platform to defend yourself.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So I just want to hear what has that been
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: like for you coming off the show and having those
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: things said about you? Um. Yeah, I know it's interesting. Uh.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: The unique thing about um, not reality celebrity kind of
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: coming to the status of celebrity and being so well
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: known by the public and scrutinized by the public that's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: very different specific to the Bachelor franchise versus saying, oh,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I'm a professional baseball player or I'm even an actor
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in a fictional series or whatever it is. Because everybody
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: then feels like they have a personal um, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: obligation or interest in your love life that's what you're doing,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: or your relationship status, and so then they feel like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: it's open. There's no there's a gray area between judging
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: what you do and how you date or how you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: relationally on screen during your time on the show. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: then when you come off of it, then people still
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: follow you as a reality star or whatever on social
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: media and they get glimpses of your personal life or
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: there's hearsay or articles about uh, you know, from internet
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: blockers and whatnot, and all that hearstay it becomes the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: only fact that they have to judge from it. So
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: then they just are creating these whole storylines that are
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: just social media driven and you know, borrow articles driven,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and they have no grounds and there's no like thorough
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: platform of facts about what that is. And that's just
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: how you're known. So that's yeah, it's very interesting, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that um then and Ashley have probably felt
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that that same phenomenon. So yeah, we we have. And
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and that's what as she was just talking about here is.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You know, coming off The Bachelor, she was known as
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the virgin, and she as a result her her life
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: has been greatly affected by that. Even though she's proud
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of that, right, that's a more moral choice she's made
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: as an adult, but she still now sees how that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: affecting her life, even outside of the topic of sex, right,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: just dating in general has been rendered um by that definition.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And and you know, for for me, I've cut you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I think in a weird way. I came in The Bachelor,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and I think the tagline was perfect been, which is
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: which is super nice and very kind. But all of us,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: all of us know that's not true. And so when
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you're defined yeah, I have many flaws, and when you're
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: defined as perfect, right, there's only one way to move
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and that's down. And you're going to continue to fail people.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Instead of people getting to know you fully and seeing
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: your flaws, end up embracing your flaws, loving your flaws,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and helping you work through those, they end up just
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: getting disappointed in you. And that's where I guess the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: heaviness and the burden's light on my life is all
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I could do. Was disappointed from the moment that that
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: was the definition of me. Only the only option I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: had was to fail people over and over and over again,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: because I'll be the first to tell you, and this
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: is coming from no place of humility, It's coming from
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: no place of of insecurity. I'll be the first to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: tell you I am not perfect. And and and that's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what what my struggle has been with Luke coming out
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of that and kind of moving more into your experience here,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: uh from the Bachelor, and and kind of what you're
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: doing today. Um, how is Life's it's Um, it's it's
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: it's different. Um. You know, I've got new pitfalls to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: look out for. Sometimes they're relational, sometimes they're just kind
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: of life rhythm because um, you know, you kind of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have to learn to say notes because there's so many
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: opportunities on the table. And you know, I've met so
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: many people this year, more so than probably the last
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, five or six years combined of my life.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Just meeting people in new faces, new names to remember,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: new people asking you, hey, come do this, come do that,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And you just learn you know, you trying to say
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: yes to a lot of these things, and then before
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you know, you you, you know, the family starts falling
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: down in terms of how much time I got spent
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: with my parents this year and that started dropping, or
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like how much I call my sister and see how
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: she's doing things that I used to do like commonly
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: that are in my personal life. Now I'm starting to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: kind of see conflict with what I'm doing professionally because
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm so busy and say yes all the time the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: tribol and work and everything. So this is just a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, a lot of implications that come. Um,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you know, after you you're you're off the air and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: after the show is over, but you know, you continue
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to rise in the s celevery status and you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: people want to know what you're doing and why you're
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: doing it, and you know all these things. So yeah, hey, Luke,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I know that you took a picture with Danielle l
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and it got all Bachelor
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Nation buzzing that you guys were dating, But it was
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: really just a picture, you know, And I take pictures
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: with Jared all the time, and everybody's like Oh my god,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it's finally happening. How do you guys handle all the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: speculation that comes across with just Instagram pictures. I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: from my perspective, we can make excuses all we want, right,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we and everybody tells us we signed up for this.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: We did we We signed up for this show, hoping
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: for the best, not knowing what we're really getting into.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But the point that I always communicate is we're still
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: normal people. I still sell software like that is my
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: full time job. I also not talking to podcast, which
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about. But but coming into the Bachelor or
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Bachelor ete, I didn't have any prep prep for what
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: happens afterwards. Um. And so social media becomes this monster
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that you have to manage. UM. You have to not
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: only post the right thing, say the right things, um,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: but you also have to post a certain amount of
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: time so that people stay engaged. For me, for me personally,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: that that was only the only thing that was was
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a stressor, and it ended up being a stressor on
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: my life. I think it ended up affecting relationships not
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: only with you know, my fiance at the time, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: my family, my friends, because there was always this constant
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I need to show what I'm doing now, and I
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: can't be in the moment actually doing it. I have
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to make sure I document this the right way. We
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: could do entire podcast about social media and how it
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: affects our lives. It's kind of like a beautiful disaster
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: for us because it's so good for business and what
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: we try to promote. Luke, you your music, me all
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the media stuff that I do, and now Ben's got
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: a podcast. But also you're right, I mean, I can't
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: go somewhere fun without stressing first about getting the perfect picture,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and then if it doesn't get a lot of likes,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna tell you that
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't care like I do. It makes me stressed out.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, is my time able to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: do all these cool things coming to an end? Yeah? Well,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's on the same token, it's kind
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: of giving me a glimpse into the world of just
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: being in the entertainment business. And I feel like it's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a glimpse of you know, all these people that are
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: actors that kind of that catch a break and then
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you know they they're always trying to stay relevant, like
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: relevant is their whole lifetime goal. It seems like as
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a career they're like in the tabloid or what's the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: next project or whatever, and they're always trying to stay relevant.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: It's like a Hollywood thing. And so you know, for
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: us being normal people coming off the street, we get
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a dose of reality TV and to every status and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're relevant in a very quick,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: um short period of time kind of on on that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: entertainment world, you know, spectrum, and then all of a sudden,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: then that relevant starts fading just as fast as it happened.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And then people, you know, emotionally, they get caught up
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: in that and it becomes a very some people, i
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: think it become addicted to it, and it becomes a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: very important part of their life and and probably too
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: much so. Actually, there's a study that came out this
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: week that there's been a seventy increase in depression in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: young girls like twenties and below because of social media
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and the images, the perfect images that are put across
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: on those platforms, and it's just no, you can't compete
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: with all the airbrush, and you can't compete with these
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: lifestyles that girls kind of pretend they're curated lifestyles and
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: personalities that they put up there. Yeah, hunter see that.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You know, just um, there's this change that's happening right now, transition.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: We're um, the high percentage of of twelve year old
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: kids that are just going their adolescent development stages emotionally
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and physically are now all on iPhones and all at
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: such a fragile time of your life and trying to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: figure out who you are. They're in this they're learning
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to be the most narcissistically uh you know, developed people.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But Luke, I want to ask you real quick. You're
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: just just we only have a couple of minutes here.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You're getting ready to get off social media. You're going
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to paradise. Tell us about it. Are you excited? Are
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you nervous? What's going through your mind? Oh? I thought
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that was announced? Is that not announced? Tell us anything
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that I'm sorry, I apologize, I thought that was announced.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So you know what's going on there? Uh no, I
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: think that. Um, actually, for me, it's not something I'm
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: actually interested in right now. And uh so, UM, you
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: know obviously that's been on the table for you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of folks that are always alumni for at
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: least the last couple of seasons and and just for me,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: after some discussions that just didn't steell like it was, um,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you know right for me, and so um, so yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not actually gonna go in Taradise this year. All right, Well,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but I support that, man, I do. I support you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: fully in that decision. I think you gotta do what's
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: best for you. I you know, I know if you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: did go, you're the hottest commodity out there. All these
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: ladies are gonna be so sad. You'll be getting a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: call from me later. Um, but good luck. I know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I know you're touring right now. You want you want
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to say something about that. Yeah, no, I'm just, um,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, back to Nashville, like what I was doing
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: before and and and things are great here. I love
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: this community and love being out to be in the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: music industry at something. I left the corporate world and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: left the military, um to come and do this and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: kind of get back to what I was passionate about.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And so that's that's all I'm doing. And I've never
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: never looked back. I've never been happy here. So it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: things are great. So you guys come out to nashvill
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: whenever you get a chance and come hang out and visit. Man. Well, hey,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: thank you, good luck with everything. We appreciate you calling
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: into the almost Famous podcast, and uh, good look with
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the rest of the UM, I guess without paredise, good
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: luck is great. You have fun getting your flow phone
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: blown up by Ashley here for the next couple of days. Yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of days of chill and then
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: maybe you'll hear from you. I'm glad we got to talk.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to see you guys again. I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: sure we'll we'll get the hangar the next couple of months.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: All right, perfect things, all right, that good day, see it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So we haven't talked a lot with that. By the way,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that was a great call call. I love what he
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: said about social media. Yeah, and that's a topic we're
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: gonna touch on, I'm sure many times throughout this podcast
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: because it is so relevant in our lives today. UM.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: But to kind of transition over, we haven't talked a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: lot about this week's Bachelor episode, which was crazy, by
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the way. Um. Not only throughout the week, there's been
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a ton of press about how Rachel has announced that
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: she is engaged. So I'm watching this episode this week
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: knowing that she's engaged to one of these guys, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out exactly which one it is.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: She's not just in love, but she's engaged. Who do
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you think it is? Okay, and I only say this
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: because Jimmy Kimmel seems to be the new reality Steve. Okay,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he gets it right every single year. He got it
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: right for you, right, he did get it right for me.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: He gets it right before everyone. He said, Peter is
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the number one. Peter wins. That's what he says. Peter's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the Audie. He's like, okay, actually, let's be a little
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: more detailed, you guys, I'm sorry right now or something. Um. Yes,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: he has got blue eyes just like looks like he
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: could be in g Q. He actually had the one
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: on one date this week. It was a jet Palm Springs.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: They kissed. It seemed really good, and um, did you
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like what you see in Peter so far? Well, he
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: does that thing that I was talking about last week
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: when they kiss, you know, he puts his hand on
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: her jaw. He's sweet and kind of secretive. He hasn't
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: like Scorpio vibe. I bet she's a Scorpio because he's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like warm yet very mysterious. You know, I like him romantic.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Are you a Scorpio? No, I don't really know what.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Let's do Zodiac reading one week. You know. I like
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Peter why. It's because he wore a bow tie on
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: night one. That takes some cos I know, but but
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that that takes some confidence. And when you can walk
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: out of the limo in a bow tie on the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: biggest like entrance of your life, I have to give
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: it to Nick Vile. No one wears a suit like that. Man,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, Yes he does. Okay, So so
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: moving into the episode, there was a lot that goes on,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: but the one big thing and the hot topic right
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: now is still Boom. I'm not gonna do it. It's
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: gonna do it, and I'm not gonna So we have
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this guy, uh, you know, and and honestly, it's still
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: hard to keep everybody together. I'm going to forget names.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I just know these guys by faces and moments in
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the episode. I mean, I didn't know we had that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: That's good stuff right there, That's good stuff and I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: never want to hear it again. And uh, so we
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: have what we just did their guy and and we
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: have then Dean seems like a nice guy. I think
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't end up with Rachel, he would probably
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: be my top choice for the Bachelor so far. It's
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: crazy that we predict bachelor's during week What else he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: gonna do? I think we all, you know, pretty much
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: predicted you by week two. Can I tell that a
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: little story for a second? Go ahead? Okay? Um? So
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I came back from Paradise totally heartbroken by Jared and then, um,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I got home to like four episodes of The Bachelorette
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to catch up on, and my mom and I rewound
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you giving the sex talk about five times because I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: was upset. I was like, jaredy, I was like with
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that again. I was like, this guy is absolutely the Bachelor.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: That was your moment, that moment moment, Oh, Ashley, Well,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I will say I got very lucky with that. Um.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Ali from California, Alie out there, Hi, Hi, you have
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a question, um, not about the Bachelor, not about the Bachelorette. Yeah,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: so what's your question? Ali? My question with all the
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: hyphen in then of the man umper that's all over
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: social media, definitely the man romper. Oh yeah, so for then,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: would you ever wear a man romper? And then for
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: actually a little bit different, if a guy that you're
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: really into attracted to shows up on your second or
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: third date wearing a man rapper, would that be a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: total doodle breaker? Ali, how do you know I'm not
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: wearing one right now? Uh No, I would not wear
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a man rapper. Those things not only look uncomfortable, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine every time you like stand up
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: or sit down or as a man like moving those things,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: something's happening that doesn't exactly fit our bodies absolutely, like
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: we get camelto in them. But could you imagine the guys?
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Sorry, I didn't mean to go. Yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's just very awkward to have this. Like. So, I'm
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: just gonna compare it to ski season. So I wear
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a ski suit, right, It's a one piece ski suit,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and anytime I have to do anything outside of that suit,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: it is a massive task, a massive it is. It
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: is so annoying that I would almost choose to do
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: or whatever I've got to do just standing up inside
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the ski suit because it takes forever. It's uncomfortable. It's hot, right,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it's constricting. Well, I'll tell you what you actually do
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: in that scenario, Van. You pull it over to the side.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Like when I go to the bathroom and a romber,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I just pull over my underwear. I think I speak
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: for women when I say that. For you guys, I
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: don't know. I guess it depends on your size down there. Yeah, Ali,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: thank you for the call. I would not wear a romper.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: You're the best. We appreciate it, Um, and thank you
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: for joining the Almost Famous podcast. Did a guy? Who? Oh?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I understand? Okay? Thanks? Thanks Ali. Al Right, everybody, this
• 42:55
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• 42:59
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