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- 1:04Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode
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- 3:15This episode of do, we're not doing hellos and all that.
- 3:20Well you know we're okay really quick.
- 3:21Logan, tell it will say everything.
- 3:23Okay? Yeah, where am I right now?
- 3:29We'll have you plugged Bill Bros at the end.
- 3:32This week's episode of The Last of Us was wild and not because
- 3:38it was violent, not because it was disturbing.
- 3:42It was a beautiful fucking episode.
- 3:44So beautiful, in fact that at one point, I stood up in the
- 3:47middle of the episode to go get a glass of water and it took me
- 3:51five minutes to get my glass of water Charlie, is he got up in
- 3:56love? I looked at him and I and I did,
- 4:03but I want to call out all the people I'm seeing on Twitter
- 4:06already, bitching about this episode's quote-unquote agenda,
- 4:09there is no agenda. Lgbtq in this episode.
- 4:13They were already saying it wasn't even.
- 4:15All right. Dude, it's wasn't even over.
- 4:16So straight away. Fuck you.
- 4:19You didn't play the games and also fuck you because you're a
- 4:22piece of shit bigot and just fuck you fuck off and fuck you,
- 4:26that's episode was amazing. First and foremost, Nick
- 4:31Offerman, delivers a performance and who's his Murray Bartlett, I
- 4:36think was the name I saw, okay. For that's Frank.
- 4:39The two actors who played Bill and Frank did an amazing fucking
- 4:43job. This is an award worthy fucking
- 4:45episode of it doesn't win. Some sort of fucking award.
- 4:48That is bullshit has been snubbed.
- 4:50If you talk shit about this episode 4, what it shows and
- 4:53depicts your cunt. That's right.
- 4:59Actually, I can't believe that that was already happening.
- 5:02I mean I saw a couple things in the episode where I was like,
- 5:05somebody's I have a problem with that, sometimes we call them
- 5:07right away while watching. Yeah.
- 5:09Yeah, because yeah, because we were watching it separately
- 5:10again. I've been watching it with my
- 5:11family and next been watching it in the Discord which you should
- 5:14join in. Watch with us or him rather so
- 5:16much one episode with us. Yeah, I'll probably I'll see.
- 5:21Maybe I'll watch the next episode with you guys.
- 5:24Just did a private viewing like in here a sphere something?
- 5:27No, no, I'd watch it with the rest of the group.
- 5:29I just sprinkle chips. I just called Matt Granite.
- 5:37Yeah, dude, I'm scared. Fuck you, bitch.
- 5:51Which I think is why I joined in and I saw this.
- 5:55But yeah, I can't believe that if you were already saying stuff
- 5:58like that. No, there's no, there's no.
- 5:59Agenda. I mean we knew from the game
- 6:02that that was a villain Frank. We're Partners.
- 6:05Yeah. And the show has just agreed to
- 6:09make it that way. So this is a dumb thought.
- 6:11Well, the the games both, both of them won an to deal with
- 6:15issues, like this in a very beautiful way.
- 6:17I think, especially part 2 deals with some stuff as well as part
- 6:211 part 2, arguably deals with more if you want to look at it
- 6:24that way. But this is really the only in
- 6:27the first game this this and Ellie's story are really the two
- 6:34biggest. You know, I guess like stories
- 6:37in that not genre but like in that space and you really get in
- 6:42the game, you really didn't get to know much about Bill other
- 6:45than the fact that he was like a survivalist like a doomsday
- 6:48prepper paranoid. You know, I mean they depict
- 6:51that so well when you see them, it's like really experience.
- 6:56The apocalypse is very interesting because he got to
- 6:59hide in his Anchor, everyone dipped out and then he
- 7:01immediately like went into survival mode which I think was
- 7:04so sick. But you never like, you never
- 7:06know. Never seem to deal with an
- 7:08infected. You never seemed only a camera
- 7:10like he knows that they exist. Well, he knows that they exist.
- 7:13Yeah. Right.
- 7:13But like, he never experienced the apocalypse like everyone.
- 7:17In those veins cities did in all the stories that we see that was
- 7:21his City on that City. And that's I literally told Nick
- 7:24Nick when he first It was like, making the roux for his steak.
- 7:29It was pouring it on like his first dinner was, everyone was
- 7:32gone for the first, like night. I was like this - absolutely
- 7:41perhaps he was only one, did you see how quick he is?
- 7:44Right? Like I mean, as soon as
- 7:45everybody's gone he clears the immediate area.
- 7:48Depot him down, the natural gas play.
- 7:52I was like a crank on. Yeah.
- 7:56You took the boat. I was exposed fucking take in
- 7:58the boom, he's anything but he's not going to use that, right?
- 8:04My initial reaction was, he's not going boating really?
- 8:07Like, come on. Alicia feels way too bills.
- 8:11Way too paranoid to even think of doing that now but um, it was
- 8:15awesome. I did like that.
- 8:17I like you know I like the visual storytelling in this
- 8:20episode, I think is very heavy in terms of both in Bill and
- 8:24Frank story as well as what we see.
- 8:26For when, you know, the episode does start with Joel and Ellie
- 8:31Ellie has, it was the cold open this week.
- 8:33Yeah, I wanted to make yeah, yeah.
- 8:35Basically flashback called open in this one but you kind of do
- 8:40right after that but it's the main story.
- 8:43But yeah, storyline sisterly like a flashback to pre-pandemic
- 8:50know. It's right at the start.
- 8:53And yeah, I love to visual storytelling from Um, Everybody,
- 8:56right? I liked Joel and Ellie
- 8:59immediately. I just, I keep loving Ellie,
- 9:01more and more as every episode goes by, I just love.
- 9:03She does not give a shit what you'll want or thinks she
- 9:07breaks. Like she just doesn't care.
- 9:10I love this episode. I think she finally, like, it's
- 9:12finally clicked in her head though where she's like, I
- 9:16understand now I have to listen to it.
- 9:20I think she knows anything or she'll break, right?
- 9:22But I think she's starting to finally understand this starting
- 9:25to go now. He's here to protect me.
- 9:28He's not survive, unless I stick with him and I need to follow
- 9:32his rules to stick to them. Well, that's the thing that
- 9:34makes her different from. I think a lot of traditional,
- 9:37like, characters and apocalypse, or horror or whatever you want
- 9:41to call it like shows. And just like just characters in
- 9:44general is there's always characters where there are
- 9:46people that just for whatever reason, don't decide to stick by
- 9:49the hero or the guy who knows what they're talking about.
- 9:51The person who knows what they're talking about and they
- 9:53just don't for reasons that escape.
- 9:56And then Logan. Anyway, there's always a person
- 10:20that doesn't stick by the main character that for whatever
- 10:24reason we don't know why and they just decide to stop
- 10:28laughing. You're making me laugh.
- 10:29I'm trying. Um, and and they died, right?
- 10:32They end up dying or they end up getting captured, whatever it
- 10:34is. And that just, that's not, maybe
- 10:36just in horror apocalyptic stuff, but just in general, just
- 10:39in stories. And with Ellie, it's always, I
- 10:43think it's going to be it's different, right?
- 10:44Because she knows almost when to break the rules until she
- 10:48doesn't like there are some times where she breaks the rules
- 10:51when she shouldn't. But then there are other times
- 10:52where she breaks the rules because she has to like, you
- 10:56know, she can own. There's only one way through it.
- 10:59And it's like Joel said this rule, but like, I have to do
- 11:01this to save choler. I have to do this, to save
- 11:04myself, right? And everything like that, you
- 11:07know? And obviously same thing Falls
- 11:09like, They're right at the end when he says his third row,
- 11:12which is listen to what I say when I say it, Ellie's going to
- 11:15break that rule instantly. You know, she's she won't do
- 11:19that. She thinks she's 14, right?
- 11:23And and she said like throughout the entire thing like at the
- 11:26beginning when they're going into the market to, you know,
- 11:28find Jules stash. He's like stay out here and
- 11:31she's like I'm going in. I want to see some stuff like
- 11:35you know, I thought you would have liked it as well because it
- 11:38was kind of another one of those moments.
- 11:40She was just kind of thinking of that life that she never got to
- 11:45live for the apocalypse, which was, you know, in that s, that s
- 11:49episode, she was pushing the cart in the water and pretending
- 11:53that she's at the hotel and this one she gets car to the, I would
- 11:56have spaceship. Yeah.
- 11:59Yeah, she yeah she's a 14 year old kid full of wonder and
- 12:03excitement and she's interested in everything and I like that
- 12:07about I mean I think that's what makes people both.
- 12:10In the game and the show fall in love with her is that she's
- 12:13she's, you know, us as kids, right?
- 12:15She's interested about everything.
- 12:16She's, you know, getting into the car for the first time.
- 12:18She's like, what is this? And, you know, she sees the
- 12:20Mortal Kombat machine in the, in the grocery store.
- 12:23Whatever. She's all excited.
- 12:24She's like, I had a friend who knew everything about this, and
- 12:26she's excited, and talking out loud.
- 12:28And she is no real in a beautiful, sort of way.
- 12:32She is no real understanding of the danger around her.
- 12:36Even if it's not immediate, like she just she likes it.
- 12:40Can you imagine out like she recognizes the world she's in
- 12:43but she doesn't. She has these moments where she
- 12:46almost like Steps out of it goes.
- 12:47No, no, no. Like this is beautiful.
- 12:49I love that. You know, I think this is
- 12:50interesting. I think this is cool and I did
- 12:54like, I mean, we don't know if that was her her first kill
- 12:59first infected kill there. But if it was, I mean, in terms
- 13:03of what we are, most intimate, if anything probably, yeah, that
- 13:07is a nice kind of looking at it or not zombie, but that in fact,
- 13:10Affected was kind of looking at her.
- 13:11Like, come on. Don't do it.
- 13:13Not even that she was like, almost like studying, like, just
- 13:15trying to understand and like just, like, kind of, why are we
- 13:20killing them? Like, are they really that bad?
- 13:22But then she almost bit my tongue looks like she's kind of
- 13:25having these flashbacks of everything that they've done.
- 13:28Yeah, well like no, this is interesting on it was
- 13:33interesting on both sides, right?
- 13:34Because I mean in The Game's, the infected are constantly
- 13:37crawling and you know, fighting for every inch base.
- 13:40We to kill you and it was really weird to see this where it's
- 13:43like this infected basically. Almost knew there was nothing
- 13:46that he could do, right? So this is all just gave up.
- 13:49Yeah, he kind of just sat the Kathy's body was crushed under
- 13:52concrete like yeah. He wasn't like jerking.
- 13:54She's just kind of he wasn't even trying to reach even when
- 13:57she was Within Reach. He just was looking at her which
- 14:00is interesting because question to you is, do you think that's a
- 14:04part of that the immunity videos is that she has or do you think
- 14:07that was to your guys's Point? Like maybe it had just been
- 14:10sitting there for so long. It just has no energy left, but
- 14:13even if Joel was down there, it would just be like, I'm fucking
- 14:16dime just. Yeah, I don't know.
- 14:19That's a good question. I don't think it has anything to
- 14:21do with her Sim like her immunity because she is.
- 14:27I mean, just like as we saw in episode 2, she is under threat
- 14:30of being ripped, apart of. She like from the clickers.
- 14:32If she made noise, they would have killed her.
- 14:34They don't really care, right? But I, in the Companion podcast
- 14:39for For the last of us that's like on Spotify and stuff like
- 14:43that, that I listened to every Monday.
- 14:45I just kind of gave them a plug. I don't know why, but they don't
- 14:48need it. They don't need it.
- 14:49But go check them out if you want.
- 14:54They said something about how like these sort of infected are
- 14:58like the way they are in the show is that they're not
- 15:00zombies. They're like like with what
- 15:02happens with test she gave up and she wasn't threatening them
- 15:06which is why that one infected just wasn't threatening her her
- 15:10you know he didn't jump on her and start fighting her she's
- 15:13just she got bit on the neck which is the fastest infection
- 15:16times. I wonder to your point as well
- 15:18wasn't. It's like an hour or two.
- 15:20It's good when she turns out that she was infected and was
- 15:22like double knot. Brett I can walk up.
- 15:26Yeah. Like he just walked up to her
- 15:27and just you know give her a little smooch.
- 15:30I was curious. If they ever go into depth about
- 15:33the reasoning for that scene. Like I didn't nothing, it was
- 15:35just curious like, you know, probably did in a podcast.
- 15:39Yeah. They kind of they kind of
- 15:41touched on that but for this episode I liked how that was a
- 15:45little neat touch but I mean that's so small and I love that
- 15:49the way that they brought us to Bill and Frank was seeing this
- 15:54woman scarf and Joel is a flaming skull.
- 15:58The baby school will and Joel explain sir.
- 16:01Another piece of Storytelling that we didn't know before.
- 16:03I don't think it's ever mentioned in the game's.
- 16:05Is that what Federer was doing on the weekend before like the
- 16:09weekend? Of the outbreak was they were
- 16:12rounding up everybody in the small towns and what they would
- 16:15do is they would bring everybody there.
- 16:16Until they were told that there was no more room in the event
- 16:19that there was no more room. They just killed everybody.
- 16:22Yep. And then we like basically were
- 16:26told that and it camera goes to like a scarf and it's it cuts to
- 16:302003 September 30th or whatever and it's a woman with a baby and
- 16:37they get a truck and they leave. And then we meet Bill infinite
- 16:44Glory pills in his basement with his cctvs and sees all the
- 16:48trucks pull off into goes showtime baby.
- 16:50Yeah, she's like hee-hee basically clapped rubbed his
- 16:53hands together and said it's time to get to work, right?
- 16:56I mean, making this town so hard during that suicide note.
- 17:01When she went, he, he he dude, I needed them.
- 17:06Like, I needed that break. From the episode when she was
- 17:11reading the, no. And then, because obviously,
- 17:13it's fucking bill. Just being bill is like, I never
- 17:16fucking liked you but I respect you and we're not gonna raise
- 17:21motherfuckers. Get us.
- 17:22He but Ellie reading, hee, hee, hee, hee, and it goes on way too
- 17:27long than you'd expect, like, sleep wrote it for like 80.
- 17:32Yeah, he was Road at that long, that shit you needed that in
- 17:36this episode though. Because Cuz it starts out just
- 17:41showing a man who was prepared and that starts out and its own
- 17:45comic relief raised like not today.
- 17:47You jackboot motherfuckers. Yeah, just we've already
- 17:51discussed, he's looting the town, he's putting a fence up.
- 17:54He's watching big, he's watches cameras.
- 17:57Well that infected dies, he goes it never gets old like ever gets
- 18:00old. Like there's a little bit of
- 18:01comic relief in but he's alone and that's what this goes into.
- 18:05It's like, yes, he is happy at first.
- 18:08He doesn't need. Everybody thinks he's alone and
- 18:11then we meet Frank and not only is he alone but he's alone with
- 18:17somebody that he can love because he's been hiding it.
- 18:21That's what was so beautiful. We know that bill and Frank
- 18:24we're gay. Yeah, they were a party of we've
- 18:27known this but to see them explore it in this way to be
- 18:32like during the fall of right Bullock during the first
- 18:37intimate scene, Bill and Frank really.
- 18:38Have I'm not talking about the piano time, but when they
- 18:40actually go to bed together, have you ever been with anybody?
- 18:44No yes no yes, okay. Girl, long time with a girl
- 18:49though. He's I see you've never been
- 18:50with a man. No, then he goes, then we're
- 18:53going to take it slow. I was like this is fucking
- 18:57amazing. You basically goes.
- 18:58We're gonna start with the basics because obviously bill
- 19:01has been he because of who bill is his had to hide his sexuality
- 19:06from the outside world. And Eventually obviously from
- 19:09himself to a little bit you know.
- 19:11And they will never give us. They give some of that comic
- 19:13relief still though, where Frank is?
- 19:15Like I just want you to know. I'm not a horror though, like
- 19:17I'm not going to do this in the LI if we do this, I'm staying.
- 19:19I have to add these comic relief moments, and he did they deliver
- 19:27they deliver the strawberries? That was, I didn't find that
- 19:31even if I didn't find, like, even when there is that comic
- 19:36relief in that scene, I still couldn't even laugh because I
- 19:39was just like, it's just so it's beautiful.
- 19:43Like it's honestly, one of those things where I was thinking
- 19:46about it watching it, like, you're watching.
- 19:48Yeah. Like you said, Nick beautifully.
- 19:50Beautifully said of, it's a man who's alone and we see him kind
- 19:53of grow but he grows so little, you know, it's the same thing
- 19:57day after day, right? He doesn't find.
- 19:58And fun stuff to do, he doesn't do anything.
- 20:01Different in our area had, he's very OCD like creates a routine.
- 20:05Frank comes in and he refuses to bring disrupts that routine and
- 20:09refuses to break in but door while he comes from, but Bill
- 20:13loves every moment of the routine being broken.
- 20:15Even if he even when they fight pushing back, even when they
- 20:18fight, he said, the father gives them the yes.
- 20:20Hey, makeup, and everything is back to normal, exactly living.
- 20:25They father why? This was beautiful.
- 20:26This is this was a relationship. Bells like the boutique, like I
- 20:53don't have friends. And he goes, well, I met a nice
- 20:56lady over the radio, and he just storms that, he's like Frank.
- 21:01What smell has a tied them into Joel and Tess.
- 21:04And olives, I was always curious, I guess this going to
- 21:06be a dedicated episode to their backstory and then it just will,
- 21:10you know, fourth episode. We'll just go back to main story
- 21:13but the way that they Blended not only tests and Joel before
- 21:18but also unfortunately, yeah well afterwards, but how they
- 21:24Blended? that in, and they Breakdown of
- 21:30how they made the episode. They use, they bring up how they
- 21:33use that bills, time line as a guide for The Sword to continue
- 21:39and the way that they put them in the show to make it, make it
- 21:43make sense early well done as well, right?
- 21:46And that's one of the things that I love about this episode.
- 21:49So much is like Nick said, it's a relationship and you get to
- 21:54watch it grow and you get to watch it stagnate a little and
- 21:57then you get to watch it grow more and To enjoy like like
- 22:02right there, right. Frank says, we're going to have
- 22:04friends. We're going to have people over.
- 22:06So like fix yourself up, like we're going to have people.
- 22:09And then it's this lovely little thing of them.
- 22:12Just eating dinner in the garden or like kind of a lovely besides
- 22:16bill with a gun on it on the table the entire time.
- 22:22But like then there's but like then you have, you know, Joel.
- 22:26Yeah. Basically saying like yeah I get
- 22:28it dude. And Frank.
- 22:30I like Frank's just calm demeanor to everything Bill does
- 22:33where he's based. It's almost like a maze
- 22:35dismissive a bit, but it's not it's a mirror version of tests
- 22:38and Joel because test is the same way towards Joel where he's
- 22:41where, she's like, he won't, he won't bite until I tell him to
- 22:44bite when it's the same thing as Frank, what prank calls each
- 22:50other? And yes, I understand that it's
- 22:54okay, well and then even then right he still doesn't really
- 22:57care for what she has to say. He doesn't believe.
- 22:59For and then Joel kind of points out.
- 23:01He's like the wire you have is already like rusting like yep I
- 23:05give it a year. He says I give it a year before
- 23:07that fence goes down. Yeah.
- 23:09So he's like I can help you but instead of just saying like we
- 23:12can help you and I understand the gun.
- 23:13He's like I can help you and here's how these and I kind of
- 23:16like he needs. Yeah.
- 23:18And and that's exactly what, you know, Bill kind of response to
- 23:21even though like like we said, he still doesn't like Joel but
- 23:26that's you know par for the course bill doesn't like
- 23:28anybody. Bill.
- 23:30Now that wasn't anybody that he needs to go to the guys
- 23:57just dumbfounded. Like what Say it like I was
- 24:00trying to be nice. It's almost you're not there
- 24:03where he's like, you know, Bill knows knows his grounds.
- 24:07He knows what he needs, he knows how to make his shit work.
- 24:11So what exactly says I can help. That's not good enough, I know
- 24:14more than you, but for Joel to say this is what you need fixed
- 24:18and him being in his head like damn, okay.
- 24:21It's kind of, right? Yeah, he kind of knows.
- 24:23Like who knows? What's up?
- 24:25Yeah. Like that's that, like you said
- 24:26that. Respect was it?
- 24:27I'm listening now. You're Feeble person to me in an
- 24:30asset. Now, I understand when I love
- 24:32the time jumps that we get, because we don't get to see
- 24:34everything, but we get to see your fix.
- 24:37We get to see the beginning. We get to see their little
- 24:39blossoming like their their love of Linda Ronstadt and like
- 24:42playing the piano and and all that kind of stuff and then,
- 24:45yep, Frank kind of walking them through the basics and then it
- 24:49cuts to the, you know, yeah, even food.
- 24:52And then it cuts to, I mean, Equator this episode it, I like
- 24:56that at that. Well, I think it's important to
- 24:57mention their first meal is ready.
- 24:59But with like some some vegetables and a specific wine
- 25:02that even Frank mentions he's like you're a smart man because
- 25:05you know to pair this one with rabbit that was the tip-off for
- 25:08Frank as well. He was like hmm.
- 25:10Yeah yeah exactly. And then you get to end then it
- 25:15cuts right from there to them arguing, right?
- 25:18Like I like it's been it's not bold three years later and it's
- 25:21yeah, it's not too much. Yeah, it's not two months.
- 25:25It's Frank literally like, fuck you man.
- 25:28He like no. This is what I want to do in
- 25:30bills. Like even Frank Cuts mop and
- 25:32goes don't give me any of that shit about Resource Management.
- 25:35He's like, you know, we have enough don't be an asshole.
- 25:38Like I can do this gas as a whole gas valve.
- 25:41Injury to themselves were using too much gas.
- 25:44He even points out. He's like look at your house
- 25:46like it's neat. It's trim, everything's pretty,
- 25:48but he's like somebody comes along and they see one really
- 25:52pretty house. And then they see a really like
- 25:54basically, like a shit pile across the street.
- 25:56He's like that looks bad on us, which I love that.
- 25:58There's this little Like Dynamic of Frank is so open to the idea
- 26:03of other people that he's just like I want to fix everything up
- 26:06because I want everything to look pretty because he's like it
- 26:08was, he says, this is my street to and it's like you don't shit
- 26:11where you eat. I think that was a growing
- 26:15opportunity that they're due to the circumstances circumstances
- 26:19never got to come into fruition, but something you brought up
- 26:22with was that stagnation and then grow stagnation Pro.
- 26:26Yeah, I think one of the really big rose that would have been
- 26:29Like an end goal. Is Frank wants to clean up this
- 26:32place. He wants to have yes.
- 26:33So, foreign visitors, and in the day mentally Frank wants the
- 26:39world to go back to normal? Yes, absolutely.
- 26:41If this neighborhood to repopulate with people they take
- 26:45the fences down and it just becomes a town that is normal.
- 26:50And yeah, Bill very happy with those fucking things up and just
- 26:55him and Frank pulling out together for the rest of their
- 26:57days, which is what they get. But Not to the meat that they
- 27:00realistically want well, he finally Bill finally found the
- 27:04one and that's the biggest thing here.
- 27:08It really is. But Joel points out.
- 27:11And this is where we go here. Joel points out, you got a year
- 27:15left on that fucking fence. Raiders.
- 27:17Okay. Not even fucking ten minutes
- 27:21later in this episode villain. Frank good man.
- 27:24Four minutes dude, Yassin. It's midnight with the time in
- 27:27the rain. You're like, oh God, but that
- 27:30scene is shot so fucking brilliantly.
- 27:34Well, and I love that. We follow it.
- 27:36Really, we followed for all banks respect.
- 27:38Yeah, I don't need to see Bill schuette of these motherfuckers,
- 27:41see if he's gone and it's just like, where the hell did Bill
- 27:45go? He's off to roofings.
- 27:48This is not Not sorry, but this is not actual Source material.
- 27:52This was written for the show. This is a delegation and the way
- 27:56they did this, I don't care. I know there's things missing.
- 27:59I know you don't see the bloater.
- 28:01I know you don't see that argument C1 and C2 infected and
- 28:05everything else is human. But like and I know there's
- 28:09things missing like I said the bloater and the argument with
- 28:11Ellie and Bill but like what you get here is so much more in my
- 28:17opinion. You get.
- 28:20Okay. So to touch on the the whole
- 28:22midnight scene that I really enjoyed.
- 28:24Yeah, we follow from Frank's perspective and we see I like
- 28:29this because they're the producers and the writers and
- 28:33everybody are teasing exactly what the show has been setting
- 28:37up since the beginning. Is that the infected aren't the
- 28:40real problem? No, it's the people.
- 28:43And yet you did was you don't see.
- 28:46Well and well The Walking Dead is The Walking Dead.
- 28:48And And they set it up a little bit with so far.
- 28:52Yeah, they say that. Like that's the whole thing that
- 28:54people got mad with The Walking Dead, when the first start is
- 28:56because you look, why is there so much human interaction?
- 28:58Because, like, at the end of the day, that's truly what it comes
- 29:01down. To is the human interaction
- 29:03degree, because the people are not so much and everyone was to
- 29:06kill each other now however, we are the most dangerous animal
- 29:09live but we but we don't see any of these Raiders other than
- 29:14their initial shots of them pushing towards the fence and
- 29:17then go down woken up. Fire and electrocution, which is
- 29:20always literally flame throat, but whatever.
- 29:22I've literally sorry, Evan. I had not tried it, right.
- 29:25I'd literally screaming like no Shantz into hell motherfuckers.
- 29:30Yeah. It's not having that.
- 29:32But then we see on fire, bro. But you see, you know, Frank get
- 29:37the gun. He clearly knows how to handle a
- 29:39gun because Bill is taught him, which is an absolute lot of
- 29:42like, you know, those like okay, you can fix everything up but
- 29:45then you gotta do something for me.
- 29:47Will do things your way, but I need Need to show you my way to
- 29:50like, like, like a relationship right?
- 29:52Where it's like, okay, yeah, we'll do what you want but you
- 29:54gotta give me. You got to give me this, right?
- 29:56You gotta let me teach you this. You got 11.
- 29:57The boutique store off fucking shooter, right?
- 29:59Yeah. All right, jack.
- 30:02I'll let you fix up the boutique store.
- 30:03If I get to see teaches you some, basic firearm training
- 30:06right service in. Isn't he grabs that gun and
- 30:08like, he clearly, like he said, he knows how to, you know, he
- 30:10knew how to handle a pistol. Yeah, because Freya bills out
- 30:15there with the rifle and he's clearly like taking Marksman
- 30:18shots feel like He kind of fumbles the gun a little bit and
- 30:20he grabbed these are. All right, I got it.
- 30:22Yeah but he follows out the door just that way and then he sees
- 30:26he sees Bill, he runs to Bill Bill gets, you know, erbil gets
- 30:30hit. And then you, there's that great
- 30:33scene where I thought, personally, I thought Bill died.
- 30:36We're thinking I would literally like, if this continues and like
- 30:39he's a next scene Aphasia, but we were going to stop.
- 30:41I'm pissed, I'm pissed. Like, but then, but then, that's
- 30:44the thing. Is that, you know, you see it
- 30:47again, like It's the the lovely thing is, you know, if I'm with
- 30:51a group of friends or another person in the house and one of
- 30:54us has been shot, like, I'm thinking of two things.
- 30:56I'm thinking, how do I save this person?
- 30:57And also, what the hell is going on outside, but Frank doesn't
- 31:01even pay it, any mind and bill says the same thing.
- 31:04He's like the frame, the flame throwers in the gate will get
- 31:06the rest of them, don't worry about God, but even the bill
- 31:10doesn't even say, don't worry, he'd bills and say worry about
- 31:13me. He says, I have a list.
- 31:15Here's the things I want you to know it all troll Frank like a
- 31:18Like a good partner is like you tell me about the list saying
- 31:22stay awake. Tell me what to do, but you're
- 31:24going to be okay. I'm fixing it already like he's
- 31:27getting. That's When he finally gets shot
- 31:46in there laying down, there is very distinct screaming and it's
- 31:51slowly, as I said quiet, so it tapers off eventually towards
- 31:57the end when he's kind of just like holding his hand.
- 31:59It is dead silence, those ranges notice.
- 32:02Those Raiders are dead or ran off and gone.
- 32:05Yeah, I didn't notice that that's awesome and I love that
- 32:08scene for that because like that were that like like he knew his
- 32:10shit he was he knew it was going on and he knew that it would
- 32:14Happen. And he was prepared for it that
- 32:15and pause before we get too serious.
- 32:18I'm gonna be the comic relief if I'm reading someone's house in a
- 32:22post-apocalyptic fucking thing and I see a dumbass fence.
- 32:25I'm like, dude, we got this. Everyone's like, I don't know,
- 32:28Mike, we got this and I see my boy, let's say Evan goes, I'll
- 32:32go first boss. I don't think he's Sprints for I
- 32:36go. Okay.
- 32:36Evan, you go. First and Evan.
- 32:38Just on fire. I go not the police, and we
- 32:41absolutely, yeah, exactly, mmm. He's Brisk on even I'm gonna
- 32:45tear your fucked. You are from the fox that you
- 32:50already got past. So while your Panic running its
- 32:53fuck to you hit one of those and you're getting killed.
- 32:56You mean a simple trip. Wire is a simple trip.
- 32:58Wire is like any writers, like, oh, any idiot can do that.
- 33:01But when you see a flamethrower come up out of the ground, you
- 33:03like, okay, this guy knows what he's doing like yesterday with
- 33:05sega's. You go through back to those
- 33:06woods. You do, you know if your coat
- 33:08and get out everybody who's watching The Infected die, they
- 33:10were not near the fence, they were in a perimeter bit like The
- 33:13couple yards. Yeah, dude.
- 33:15Yeah, there's a couple than that.
- 33:18Hit those wires have got a couple bullets to the side of
- 33:21the head and when good night that's a, the affected, it was
- 33:23just like, and it was gone. I was like God.
- 33:27Oh yeah, I know, but can you so pleased?
- 33:30I'll lead, uh, lead us into this because this is where the pain
- 33:33happens. Is we have to?
- 33:35Yes, we have. It's the, it's the best part of
- 33:38the episode. When you see my Logan
- 33:42strawberries strawberries. So well there is that we did
- 33:47feel the touch on that but basically Frank is is is as we
- 33:51said bills partner and he shows Bill, you need to work out.
- 33:55You need to run every day here. You know.
- 33:57Like you need to know the importance of key which I loved
- 33:59healthy which is what makes all of this more tragic is that you
- 34:04know you're not sure who died who died or like, you're not
- 34:07sure if Bill died and then it cuts It's two are Fades into
- 34:12Rather. Somebody on a porch.
- 34:14You can't see who they are, but you see that, they're in a
- 34:18wheelchair and you hear somebody's, you hear Frank's a
- 34:22bill bill and Bill comes out and says it's getting cold inside.
- 34:26Frank's the one in the wheelchair, so we don't know,
- 34:29you know, we didn't know anything about that and then it
- 34:32looks that. I mean, Frank looks older than
- 34:34bill at this point. In Bill certainly has got
- 34:36looking at me. Logan, stop this both of you.
- 34:40This is emotional and you need to be attentive.
- 34:43First, I thought, I thought the first same thing ever.
- 34:46It's like the thing that it makes you give the dead giveaway
- 34:48is the way that he got shot in the stomach is functions and he
- 34:53was paralyzed can't walk down. Yeah.
- 34:55Well guess what they, you know reversed us.
- 35:04Yeah, before we go into this, now let him do one.
- 35:06Before we go into this. The strawberry scene is one of
- 35:09my favorite scenes. I've seen in the show so far,
- 35:12because it go, it's not just the strawberries, it's the gun
- 35:15thing. Yes, I traded Joel and test a
- 35:18gun for a pack machines, which going to use it.
- 35:21Don't worry. It was a small one.
- 35:24And they immediately bill goes, I don't fucking care in his
- 35:28head. He's like, I don't get, is it
- 35:30fucking gone? It's really.
- 35:32Not that I'm poor. I just don't care about the gun
- 35:33and they they're about to like get romantic.
- 35:36There's like not on the strawberries that fucking Made
- 35:42my heart. Happy that right there, that
- 35:53conversation they walked away when they walked away.
- 35:56He went over and was like I kind of gave him that second
- 36:02affirmation of these people made by significant other half.
- 36:07Yeah, they are good people. I will at least I'm tired out.
- 36:12The guy don't care about the gun.
- 36:14Yeah, I Partners happy and they let him have this moment.
- 36:18They are good people. Yeah, it was just beautiful to
- 36:21me man. This is now, let's get into the
- 36:23heavy. Shit, is everyone here?
- 36:25So that was heavy. So that alone is happening.
- 36:29We see that Frank is in a wheelchair and he's sick with
- 36:32something and it's not it's not necessarily implied as to what
- 36:36it is. But it's some form of cancer or
- 36:38at some part of the, some form of neurodegenerative disease
- 36:41because he can't use his hands. He has to use a straw now to
- 36:45drink fluids. He can't cut up his own food, he
- 36:48has to be basically force-fed stuff and he can barely even
- 36:53paint. And you can see throughout the
- 36:55house that there's a lot of paintings all over the wall that
- 36:58are varying degrees of very beautiful too.
- 37:01You can tell where he started to struggle and the last one he's
- 37:04working on is a portrait of Bill that he never Finishes.
- 37:08And this is a beautiful thing that I love is when he's in the
- 37:11greenhouse and he's trying to paint and Bill comes over and
- 37:14just kind of Winks at him and then because he's busy doing
- 37:16something else but he's just like, it's a silent way of
- 37:19saying. I'm here for you.
- 37:20Let me know if you need something, I'm alone over here
- 37:23and then you know, they're eating dinner and he takes Frank
- 37:30to bed Bill does, and Bill wakes up the next day and Frank's
- 37:35already in the chair. And Bill immediately goes into
- 37:40caring mode of like, I got to get you back into bed.
- 37:42You gotta go to sleep, like Mom. Yeah, I would almost, yeah, you
- 37:45gotta go to sleep. If you fall asleep in your
- 37:47chair, your feet are. Do we go Blue?
- 37:49A cold doing the whole lecture? He's like, it's not even
- 37:53something. Like, think of it at that.
- 37:54Think about it that way, right? The thing he's worried about
- 37:55isn't inherently something, super serious?
- 37:58Not just like, he's like, I just don't want you to be
- 38:02uncomfortable and Frank and honestly some of my favorite
- 38:05writing of the show is Today's my last day and feels like, what
- 38:10are you talking about? And he's like, you know, you've
- 38:13given me more good days than anybody else has ever.
- 38:16Given me. Give me one more and he has this
- 38:20hat. I'm sorry.
- 38:21Evan, I'm so sorry. But he is honest with Bill to
- 38:25he's like and yeah you've given me shit.
- 38:28Daisy, never backside. Yeah you never has any moment
- 38:31where he's like, oh maybe I'm not going to go through this
- 38:33whole as soon as he says those words.
- 38:36Exactly. It is that entire day.
- 38:38That is the plan. Exactly.
- 38:40But like it's the honesty. It's like you've given me fuck
- 38:43today's as well. Yeah, you pissed me off.
- 38:45This has not been perfect. What?
- 38:47I love you. Give me one last good day.
- 38:50Yeah, and here's my, here's my itinerary, right?
- 38:53I want to, I want you to do this.
- 38:56I want you to take me over to the boutique because I'm going
- 38:57to pick out clothes for us, and we're going to get married.
- 39:00You're going to wear what I want you to wear.
- 39:02And then love that and you're going to like it.
- 39:05Yeah. And you're going to cook me a
- 39:06delicious dinner and then he gives them, he shows him a bag
- 39:09of pills and says and you're going to put all these in my
- 39:11wine glass, I'm gonna drink it and then we're going to go to
- 39:14bed and you're gonna fall asleep.
- 39:18I'm gonna fall asleep in your arms and they go through and do
- 39:22all the stuff. We don't hear any of their
- 39:23conversations. We see them going to the
- 39:25boutique. We see them getting, we see them
- 39:29dressed up and what Frank wanted them dressed in.
- 39:32Exchanging Rings kissing each other.
- 39:35They see we see that their last meal is also their first.
- 39:39It is Revit exam. All right, off the bat, I was
- 39:43like it's fucking rabbit and he did that fucking plate tilt God
- 39:50damn it and then he you know they eat and you notice again
- 39:55this I'm sure you all. I'm sure you both did is when
- 39:58you see them meet. For the first time they are on
- 40:00opposite ends of the table. And now they are reacting to
- 40:03each other. I said that as well.
- 40:05He's sitting next door. Yeah.
- 40:07Yeah. They're right next to each
- 40:08other. They eat.
- 40:09And then Bill comes out and he pours another glass, a bigger
- 40:14glass for both of them as no dessert.
- 40:18Whatever. Jesus.
- 40:20No, I want to strangle them. I wanted this ring, I already
- 40:23want to strangle them to glad he's not the Discord right now,
- 40:25but anyway, he been pours. All of the crushed up pills into
- 40:30Frank's drink. It swirls it around and gives it
- 40:34to Frank Frank, drinks it, and then Bill drinks his and it
- 40:39takes a second. And then Frank goes, you already
- 40:42had pills in the bottle that Yap and Bill goes enough to kill a
- 40:46horse. So, Which I, if you notice that
- 40:51too, now that I'm just thinking about it.
- 40:53Wow, great writing is because there were already pills in the
- 40:57bottle. And there were pills in the wolf
- 41:01in the glass. That means that Frank would have
- 41:03fallen asleep faster which if you know, Bill had to wait to
- 41:08write the note because he wouldn't want Frank to know.
- 41:12Exactly. So You probably took Frank
- 41:16upstairs. Went back downstairs.
- 41:19Wrote that note, what else? No, they didn't go downstairs.
- 41:22They're better than go upstairs. So Bill rolling Frank into the
- 41:33bedroom and shutting the door and then we cut to Joel and
- 41:35Ellie, finally arriving. If you can get, see, you can see
- 41:40that. Joel knows what's up with these,
- 41:41like plans of the flowers aren't watered, yeah.
- 41:45Look, son, kept, it looks on kept, it's not what bill and
- 41:48Frank would do no, especially not bill, right?
- 41:50And intentions do. Something's wrong.
- 41:56People have come in his first belly.
- 42:00Stay still for Joel.
- 42:12Even walked got close to the gate.
- 42:15Oh yeah. That's what I'm told.
- 42:16It was Joanna, greet him. Yeah, exactly.
- 42:20So we get there and we see them kind of talking to each other,
- 42:23Joel and Ellie and Ellie finds the note, I believe.
- 42:29Yep. Really does know he finds the
- 42:30note with the key to the car. And, you know, raise it.
- 42:34Joel kind of walks around notices, that that door to the
- 42:37bedroom is locked and you can't get in.
- 42:40And Ellie's reading the note, the asks, you know, he says read
- 42:44it to me and She reads through it and says, you know, if
- 42:47you're, you know, I love that. The the line on the envelope is
- 42:51to whomever but probably Joel but probably Joel.
- 42:54Yeah the first couple lines he goes hey I'm assuming if you
- 42:59made it through electrical gate than it was you Joel because the
- 43:03only person that could get through that without fucking
- 43:05dying. Yeah, and you know, he says we
- 43:10left the window open because the bedroom is a sight to see at
- 43:13this point. Probably But we didn't want the
- 43:15house to stink which I love that.
- 43:18That was a nice little Cherry. Yeah, it almost felt like and
- 43:21you know, if it was clearly Bill writing that note which just
- 43:24shows how much a Frank's influence played on his life
- 43:28because that's not something bill would ever say, on his only
- 43:30hit him with the, he he, he times 80.
- 43:33Yeah. Yeah.
- 43:34He to. But that, we've alluded to that,
- 43:36that fucked us up. Yeah, and the thing about that
- 43:40note, that is the most powerful is Bill saying you And I are the
- 43:45same and yeah, our only job is to protect the people we love
- 43:49because that's what we do best. And you know the the
- 43:54heartbreaking thing is he says you know, they're take you have
- 43:58I'm giving you access to all of my equipment, all my weapons,
- 44:00anything you need. It is yours.
- 44:02This is the past because it's all my shoes.
- 44:04Yeah, here's the pass code to everything.
- 44:06Here's the bunker code and you know keep test safe and Ellie
- 44:11stops before she can say tests and then Joel reads it and then
- 44:17goes outside and I thought he was going to like cheer up or
- 44:21have a panic attack. But yet we still don't see that
- 44:23from Joliet. We don't see was able to just
- 44:25keep it fucking down low. You can see is so much.
- 44:28I hate dress face. He's always pushed it down.
- 44:33You can see that from this man, but the thing beautiful thing
- 44:36about Joel is And yes Pedro Pascal is hot.
- 44:40That's fine, that's fine. But what I'm saying is it's
- 44:44weathered on him, the stress, the emotion.
- 44:47He's just taken and driven down into his core.
- 44:51It is on his body and you can see him.
- 44:55Just that's one more. Even if it's emotional, that's
- 44:58one more scar. I'm Joel rat.
- 45:01Well, that line on the Note just was one more wrinkle, one more
- 45:05gray hair. You know I'm saying like Yeah,
- 45:08we never see what the rest of the note says.
- 45:11And it's it's again just a reminder of, you know, how he
- 45:16knows. For instance, how angry Bill and
- 45:19Frank would be if it was if it was reversed where Bill and
- 45:22Frank were okay and test still died, right?
- 45:24Yes, you like they would look at Joel not, you know, I don't
- 45:29think they really would. They wouldn't be like a judge
- 45:31Jewels jewels. First reaction is what would
- 45:33they think of me? Even though they probably
- 45:35wouldn't even come close to what Joe was actually thinking?
- 45:38But but he thinks they'd be so disappointed in me and I'm
- 45:41disappointed in me and Ellie is disappointed in me because I
- 45:44haven't been able to do what this is, is a job.
- 45:47Even though it wasn't his job, it was his job and it's his
- 45:52person's gone. Yeah.
- 45:54And the writer said, he failed to save his daughter.
- 45:59Saved us and Joel's constant question.
- 46:02Can he do it? Yeah, Joel's constant.
- 46:04Question is, who's I'm going to fail?
- 46:06Who am I going to fail? Next, Joel?
- 46:07Already, his head is going. I'm going to fail Ellie even
- 46:10though he's not portraying Delhi.
- 46:13Joel cares. It's already hard ass.
- 46:16Yes, he cares already. You already hairs.
- 46:18It's a little girl. He already is seeing his
- 46:21daughter in her even if they're Polar Opposites.
- 46:24And they are, then they are, but he's already going this.
- 46:28But the thing is Ellie reminds Joel of Joel.
- 46:33Yeah, so he's already going fuck.
- 46:35I gotta steer you the opposite way.
- 46:37Yeah. So of course in his head, he's
- 46:39like, I got to go into dad mode, even if I can't go in dad mode,
- 46:41so I'm not going to go and Dad. But I'm going, it's this
- 46:44conundrum. He's gotten his fucking head and
- 46:46it's already fucking wearing on him and it's beautiful.
- 46:50Sorry, for a third time in a Row, Third fucking times.
- 46:53I was like, ooh, am I gonna fail now?
- 46:55Well, they spend time together to write, because of course,
- 46:58there's no car battery in the car, that was hilarious, which I
- 47:03love that bill. I think was still smart enough
- 47:05of like, okay, if whoever is dumb and whoever is able to get
- 47:08all that and it's not Joel. Then you do it.
- 47:12Yeah. Yeah you make a car battery.
- 47:14The like ironic like situation in that though where every
- 47:19single goddamn times all these are battery.
- 47:22There's no can never get a goddamn bring enough.
- 47:26He's better and then he sees it he's like okay I can make one
- 47:31and but then again right he smiles.
- 47:33Yeah, bills like you know how to make one.
- 47:35So this is for you but he's like he's willing to bet that no
- 47:38random Raiders that got through all the stuff would know how to
- 47:41make them would know how to make car.
- 47:43Battery never. So this letter of we're the same
- 47:45person like you. So want to take some time and
- 47:47they get to spend some time together and say, okay here go
- 47:50get this, go get that grab what you need take a shower you know?
- 47:53Ellie tells him take a shower because you stink bro and they
- 47:56clearly they finally are able to get in the car and Ellie in her.
- 48:01Amazing childhood wonder is like, it's like a spaceship
- 48:04which is a nice little Pause pause.
- 48:09Let's go back. Let's go to the bunker.
- 48:13They go to the bunker. Oh yeah it's explained why that
- 48:16song was playing the 80s music was playing.
- 48:20Death, they were in trouble. Yeah, there was trouble.
- 48:24There was trouble when it wasn't intentional.
- 48:26It wasn't exactly like 20 minutes but it's still there,
- 48:32right? So it's like, okay, we have to
- 48:33go there now, but the funniest part about that was she's like
- 48:37huh God. He's like no.
- 48:40She's like, there's a whole fucking wall.
- 48:42Mm. Yeah.
- 48:43Well the funny thing is that's so good.
- 48:49Yeah, well, And that's the, that's the other thing too, is
- 48:52that LE finds the gun that Frank would have used and she's
- 48:55actually has it in her backpack, which is another.
- 48:58I think, I know where that gun is going to come into play.
- 49:01I have it is wrong. I think I have a pretty strong
- 49:03hunch, but you get to see them spend time with each other and
- 49:07and, you know, Ellie still has her little sense of just pushing
- 49:11Joel and, you know, kind of pissed him off.
- 49:13But being a smartass and Joel being very hard-headed and just
- 49:17saying, you know, no, here's what you're going to do.
- 49:20Is the rules. Here are the rules.
- 49:22Don't tell anybody about your condition.
- 49:24Keep your history to yourself. Don't talk to me about mine and
- 49:27listen to what I mustn't. Listen to what I say when I say
- 49:29it. And alleys, like, okay, dude, I
- 49:32get it. And he goes, say it back to me.
- 49:33And all she says, is all she says, is whatever you say goes.
- 49:37Yep. Which is, I love that where it's
- 49:39like, she doesn't. It's almost like, yeah.
- 49:41She probably does Russia because Russia really sad, but if she
- 49:43doesn't write, she's like, you know, I'm just going to give you
- 49:46this answer instead of actually repeating everything back to
- 49:48you. He gives her That straight cold
- 49:51face of I guess. I understand like fuck.
- 49:53Yeah, like let's okay. You got it.
- 49:55Yeah and then and then the the nice thing is, is to cap.
- 50:00It all off. Is the the car batteries done.
- 50:02They get in the car. Well, he's all excited and she
- 50:06finds a CD or a, not a CD. Sorry types has a tape.
- 50:09Oh my God. So old and finally, you're
- 50:12young? No, yeah, tape was all I know
- 50:21them but like I know Papi disc. I like how Joel still has so
- 50:26much respect for Bill where he's like, put his shit away.
- 50:30Like stop. Yeah.
- 50:31When they fight over the radio to I like the volume and all the
- 50:34knobs because she's just touching shit.
- 50:35He's like stop stop. He goes could you not?
- 50:38Yeah. Not like and the song the song
- 50:42that plays is the song that bill plays to Frank.
- 50:46It's a Linda Ronstadt song. Yeah he plays it and A jewel
- 50:51immediately kind of goes. Oh, this is great.
- 50:52Linda Ronstadt, you don't know who that is?
- 50:54Do you? And she's like, no, I don't.
- 50:56But she's like, not about the music and they get up to the
- 50:59gate and she's like better than nothing and I really know them.
- 51:02We get to see them drive off into the sunset while the song
- 51:06plays which really is probably the nicest ending you'll get in
- 51:09this show because the next episode last could like having
- 51:12it this is like the Hat even though it's just a emotional
- 51:17ride as you happiest story. Of an apocalypse, especially the
- 51:22zombie apocalypse situation. You'll, it was a perfect story
- 51:25for two people, in a, in a world like this, right?
- 51:28Yeah, threat. They had the best ending.
- 51:30It was still a, which is bad ending but which is arguably,
- 51:34the tragic thing about it is that they had everything and yet
- 51:37what subtle was, and what ended it so fast was something that
- 51:41no, no, nobody could stop any other team.
- 51:45Well, Joel, if he took his chair, he took his advice.
- 51:50I thought about those Raiders coming, I know you need to help
- 51:53me. God, well, seems like he took
- 51:56Joel's help. Well, he did take those out but
- 51:58like what, what ended that whole relationship wasn't something
- 52:02that Joe could have helped like know for sure it was a terrible
- 52:06disease. Yeah, Frank just says like they
- 52:08didn't fix this before. Why would they fix it now?
- 52:11And you love that from Bill to of like what if we get help it's
- 52:16that desperate. Plea of there's gotta be
- 52:17something for my person. It's like whatever you like,
- 52:20what if we find a doctor? Would have a doctor comes
- 52:23around. He's like the dogs and Frank
- 52:25being even if Frank. Frank says if it wasn't curable
- 52:30before the pandemic it's not. What makes you think it is now?
- 52:33And that's the like I said the tragic thing about it is you get
- 52:38to watch this beautiful relationship and it's tragically
- 52:40cut short by something that happens.
- 52:41All tuna wilts. Yeah well it's it's cut off its
- 52:45cut short by something the world around them which has now vast
- 52:49way. More ways of dying.
- 52:51And then all of the reason that the reason that was about
- 52:56exactly the pocalypse, and even get the them.
- 52:58You know what? I'm something before the
- 53:00apocalypse. Oh, the bill says that to him,
- 53:02too, because you've made me happy.
- 53:04You know, you've given me satisfaction, you've satisfied
- 53:07my life and I'm an old band and I'm old.
- 53:10So like I'm happy and there's no reason for me to says, oh, and
- 53:13if end yeah, there's no reason to keep going.
- 53:16If, if that's what you know, is what's going to happen?
- 53:19Right, I'm gonna just I'm gonna live with you, you know, and
- 53:23sleep with you and yeah, I got nothing much more to say on that
- 53:29other than that's beautiful. And anybody who really has a
- 53:32problem with it, you're really not seeing the point, it's
- 53:36really not about them being Bill and Frank.
- 53:38It's about that being life. Exactly, that's just to it.
- 53:44That's just how it goes if you find somebody like that.
- 53:46That that's, that's what can happen.
- 53:49And Honestly in some ways, what you should pray to have happen
- 53:53because look at how happy they situation like that.
- 53:56Yeah. So as Nick said at the
- 53:58beginning, if you're real issue, is the fact that it's Bill and
- 54:01Frank and not Joel and test or something like that.
- 54:04You've got other issues that you need to look at your the problem
- 54:08and the situation, right? What I was going to say is any
- 54:14other team behind project such as this Would have steered away
- 54:20from this entirely and I'm very happy.
- 54:23We got the team behind this show to do this episode.
- 54:28Well I watched episode ever again, maybe one more time,
- 54:31maybe even one more time. I just love Nick offerman's like
- 54:35this. The episode is so depressing.
- 54:38I don't ever want to watch it again but his love and Nick
- 54:40auction it so much that watching these athletes over time.
- 54:45I talked to the Christian. Yes, to watch it with your
- 54:47fiance tomorrow. Dude, you're okay.
- 54:52How do you think Christy's gonna do all this episode tomorrow?
- 54:55I mean every episode so far, she's given a 10.
- 54:59So this is gonna get like a 15 and Parks and Rec is hurt one of
- 55:02her favorite like Pastime show. She's probably watched it like
- 55:0620 times and like, Ron all around Swanson and Nick Offerman
- 55:10as an actor's one of her top tier actors.
- 55:14Like she already knows he's in it and is like super prepared to
- 55:17see him for an episode. But I don't think she's in any
- 55:21way shape, or form paired for what?
- 55:24This episode contains so best of luck to her best of luck to you
- 55:32Christy. Yeah, if if you are yeah.
- 55:41Oh yeah, if you're posting about this episode and weird fucking
- 55:45ways, stop, I'm not going crazy into it easy.
- 55:49You didn't, you didn't really watch the episode in my opinion
- 55:51though you didn't play the game is already established that Just
- 55:54play the game course. Exactly.
- 55:57So just don't be weird. Swash episode enjoy it for what?
- 56:01For as long as you can enjoy the episode at least.
- 56:04Yeah it'd be more of an issue of Frank showed up and it was Frank
- 56:07L and it was a girl. You like that's not supposed to
- 56:09be a girl Frank. What the hell?
- 56:12Yes, I'm sorry that be more annoying.
- 56:14Like they kept it to the source material.
- 56:16They did not change anything. A lot of people right now are
- 56:20also bitching about the fact. There is no bloater there.
- 56:24Is no argument with Bill and Ellie dude.
- 56:30It's going to get just let that let the series play out.
- 56:33I think there was a moment where I was like a nod to the game.
- 56:36The game Community who have played it is that she's walking
- 56:39down the stairs of that bunker. She goes these guns, this guy.
- 56:44Yeah genius genius had that altercation and they would have
- 56:53figured it out. Exactly.
- 57:03Well, I think one of the cooler Easter eggs was the Mortal
- 57:06Kombat 2 machine. That was a cool Easter egg.
- 57:10Yeah, that was pretty nice. Do you remember that Logan?
- 57:15I do. Yeah, logos just kind of looking
- 57:17so. Sweet.
- 57:18Just letting Evan and green eyes.
- 57:19I don't like Mortal Kombat go. So it wasn't like, it was cool,
- 57:25right? I mean, it's just showing more
- 57:27of Ellie's excitement and her recognition drags.
- 57:32Yeah. She's just happy to see what you
- 57:33saw. And you know, got her reminding
- 57:35of she said A friend of mine was really good at this and do all.
- 57:38The moves. I'm willing to bet that that
- 57:40friend is Riley. Well, they show on your opinion
- 57:44and I know they've really quick flashback, like moments, will
- 57:48they showed you think a more in-depth scene or episode?
- 57:52Possibly, I believe an entire episode is about alien, really?
- 57:56I think so. And that would have to be.
- 57:59You can't really have the entire.
- 58:01You can't have the show without that because we had people who
- 58:04haven't played the games. Need to know.
- 58:05Exactly. So so, when do you think you see
- 58:07that? Eight because they're going to
- 58:10give us some big-ass Cliffhanger on seven and make us wait
- 58:13another two weeks to see exactly what happens is, there is a cap
- 58:19will because nobody could be that episode and then after 7:00
- 58:23and 10:00 hanger, episode 8 comes doesn't deal with anything
- 58:26really it's just a saw a giant flashback and then it's like now
- 58:29back to the main show. But you know what I love though
- 58:32about this is I love, this is just a separate thing but I love
- 58:35that they're kind of going off of episodes with certain They're
- 58:39the episodes are different lengths, like you always expect
- 58:42them to the season. The season premiere is always
- 58:44going to be a little longer and the season finale is going to
- 58:46always be a little longer or whatever.
- 58:48And then, you know, usually have like a 45 minute to an hour
- 58:51episode for every in the middle or, you know, something like
- 58:55that. But, yeah, you know, an hour and
- 58:5620 for the first 45 to 54 the second, and now an hour and 15
- 59:01for the third. It's like, I love that.
- 59:04Yeah, honestly, you gotta give him the screen time.
- 59:08Hate it. I hate to be that guy and I
- 59:10understand it's because I'm such a fan of this franchise but like
- 59:13honestly with how good these episodes are, I wouldn't mind
- 59:15them. All being an hour and a half
- 59:16long. I would like them to be because
- 59:19I want to see more it goes but then by the end, you're loving
- 59:26every minute that you want. Begin the conversion.
- 59:34Yeah, you all want them. I want long because it's like,
- 59:37they are doing such a great job with the pacing, and the
- 59:40storytelling and whatnot, but to for me to not dwell on it so
- 59:44much anymore because I really can't wrap them up.
- 59:47This episode, gets a 10 for me. Easy.
- 59:50Okay, if I can go above a 10, I'll go above a 10, but yeah, 10
- 59:55episodes like it's a straight ten Outta ten.
- 59:57Its Incredible. Subsidy was beautiful and
- 1:00:01incredible. Whenever redeem myself from my 9
- 1:00:04and give this one a temporary five.
- 1:00:07Goddamn. Let me put this in our Callie.
- 1:00:10It's, it would be it's going to get it's a nine and a half and
- 1:00:13then run off Nick Offerman, Nick Offerman.
- 1:00:16Yeah, yeah. So to recap The Last of Us
- 1:00:25episode 1 from Evan of myself, you guys can expect Logan on all
- 1:00:29these episodes. By the way, So so far The Last
- 1:00:34of Us episode 1 got a 9.5 from Eva to myself.
- 1:00:39Episode 2 from Evan myself and Logan got annoyed 9.8.
- 1:00:42I almost said Annoying like Blink-182 that we just want to
- 1:00:45put it in there. I give the first episode of 10
- 1:00:47because I love the cold open. So video game kind of shot for
- 1:00:53shot moments. It was first episode Nick.
- 1:00:56I think Nick gave it a 9.5 just like that actually would bump it
- 1:01:00up to a 10. So a 10 Slide, 19, .8, episode 2
- 1:01:05and a 10 episode 3. Yeah, she's asked rais'd.
- 1:01:11It is. It is the I think I saw an IMD.
- 1:01:13It's the most popular TV show right now.
- 1:01:16If you like to tally, Christie's to I'll give you a hearse
- 1:01:18tomorrow she's given 10 for the first two episodes.
- 1:01:21And well Jesus Christ, and I think everybody in the eye, you
- 1:01:25have to have to ask people in the disk or not asking that.
- 1:01:28No, that's how I think. I think that point.
- 1:01:31Yeah. Matt's gonna be like it was
- 1:01:32Good. It's like okay.
- 1:01:33Alright, you saying that, like you could do better even he
- 1:01:35said, I love east of the East would be like yeah, Ethan played
- 1:01:41the games. Yeah.
- 1:01:42But what makes it even weirder why you drank it so low because
- 1:01:45he's a hardcore fan and he all right, all right, keep it
- 1:01:50rolling. I still love him.
- 1:01:52That's just how it is. But, you know, so we're yeah,
- 1:01:56ranking. This one is just a straight ten
- 1:01:58across the board from everybody and I'm excited for the next
- 1:02:02episode because it looks like a really gonna get to see Joel
- 1:02:04step into his protector role and Yuri for violence.
- 1:02:08Probably still be sure that I'm ready for him to himself out
- 1:02:12like a spoon over all that built up, energy.
- 1:02:15Just seen we've seen Joel kill somebody right?
- 1:02:20We see how he has that power. He killed that officer.
- 1:02:24No, I would say that that would say the fedra.
- 1:02:27He's just he just really fucked up.
- 1:02:29Yeah. He didn't kill him in the way.
- 1:02:30Batman doesn't kill. Just gives them permanent brain
- 1:02:32damage or yeah. Yeah, that guy is like basically
- 1:02:35just which which in this case let's be honest if he's a
- 1:02:39permanently paralyzed Federal Officer they're probably just
- 1:02:41going to kill him. So let's just say maybe Nick's
- 1:02:45but maybe Jewel didn't kill him but Joel killed him he
- 1:02:48inadvertently ended his life. Yes, yeah, whatever.
- 1:02:52And we're gonna see now which I loved them, the little trailer
- 1:02:55we saw which is an iconic moment in the game is them driving into
- 1:02:59Pittsburgh and if Somebody saying I'm hurt.
- 1:03:02Help me. Please help me and Ellie goes,
- 1:03:05we got a healthily got to help and she goes to get out and help
- 1:03:07him and jewels like no, no, no, this is not help.
- 1:03:11No, we're not and he reverses that thing immediately like
- 1:03:14know, he knows what's up. Well, in the end, the guy who
- 1:03:18the guy who's pretending to be hurt in the game.
- 1:03:21Recognize like, he immediately breaks to and goes to pull out a
- 1:03:24gun, like he knows like, you know, obviously thinking that to
- 1:03:27you see like around like, you know, the corners and also
- 1:03:29there's people around people all show.
- 1:03:31This was a setup. Yes, absolutely, absolutely an
- 1:03:35ambush. But yeah, there's a great thing
- 1:03:37that Joel says in the game that I hope he says next episode.
- 1:03:40Where Ellie asks how did he know?
- 1:03:42And he goes I've been on both sides.
- 1:03:43So again alluding to and I hope you get a little bit more in
- 1:03:47depth on that because I love that Joel.
- 1:03:49It's not afraid to really tell Ellie I have been a bad person,
- 1:03:53you know, I have done things like this.
- 1:03:54I love in this episode which we didn't touch on.
- 1:03:57He's got a scar on his head and Ellie asks how he got that.
- 1:04:00And he He's like some guy shot and he missed.
- 1:04:03And she's like, did you shoot back at him?
- 1:04:05Did you get him? And she goes, no, he goes.
- 1:04:07He goes. No, I missed you.
- 1:04:08And she goes, cause you suck, and he goes, no, a general.
- 1:04:10It's just hard as hell. To hit people.
- 1:04:12Happens more than you think it happens more than you think.
- 1:04:15So yeah. No, 10 across the board from
- 1:04:17everybody here at wasd and cant wait for episode 4.
- 1:04:20I can't wait to watch Jewel. Craft a bunch of Spike bombs die
- 1:04:2475 times because you're on grounded mode, is a compass
- 1:04:28backpack behind the shelf and use three rolls of duct tape.
- 1:04:31Of last night, the last Light to make a pipe bombs and sweet.
- 1:04:35Fuck well after holy shit. Sorry guys, after this week's
- 1:04:40episode, I'm gonna need a dopamine Rush.
- 1:04:41That's what episode 4 is looking like.
- 1:04:43So we will see and we will see you guys back for next week's
- 1:04:47episode. Evan and I got a lot of things
- 1:04:49in the pipeline. Yes, that we've laid out to
- 1:04:52record so you can expect possibly two episodes next week.
- 1:04:57Not this week, we got a lot to work on.
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