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Lunch with the Clydesdale - After a Few Days Off, We are Back and Better Than Ever · Clydesdale Media Podcast

0:03
The bears took it to the wire again,
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but this time they couldn't pull it out.
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We're going to talk about that and a
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whole lot more next.
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I love the chase and the hunt and
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I set the pace when I'm running.
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I always take what I want and I
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always give it one hundred.
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Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
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Play the game like it's nothing.
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I'm always thankful for something.
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Don't take for granted, stay humble.
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Now wake up!
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It's time to look at the enemy.
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Look in the mirror if he is no
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friend to me.
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It's not working out,
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maybe it's the chemistry.
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It's time to break up so I can
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make a better me.
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What is going on everybody?
0:57
It is that time of the day.
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So good to be back with you.
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Yeah, we took a couple days off.
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I see you, Larry.
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I see you, Shay.
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Really, honestly,
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there just wasn't a lot to talk about.
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And everybody was kind of spending time
1:17
with family.
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And we wanted to give all of us
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just a little bit of a rest.
1:23
to be able to hang out with our
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families.
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My mom just went back to Pennsylvania.
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She was scheduled to go back this morning.
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She ended up going back last night because
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of bad weather.
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But I wanted to spend some more time
1:34
with her.
1:34
I wanted to spend time with my wife.
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And I know Carolyn had flown to
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California.
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We wanted her to have time with Lex.
1:43
Speaking of Lex, happy birthday.
1:46
Hope you have an amazing day.
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I know your forty niners beat my bears
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last night.
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And as I said in my text,
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if that gave you your birthday wish,
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makes taking the loss a little bit easier.
2:00
So, Train Olive,
2:05
we've been having Clydesdale withdrawals.
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Lana, welcome back.
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Yeah.
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So I was here last Wednesday and now
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we're here.
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We had the Christmas holiday.
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This was our first Christmas without our
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daughter and it took an emotional toll.
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It really did.
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Much more than I could have ever imagined.
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We FaceTimed Christmas Eve.
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That's when the tears started and probably
2:31
didn't stop for most of the weekend.
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My daughter said that she's never going to
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let this happen again,
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that she'll find a way to make Christmas
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her trip home.
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You know, she was alone in...
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Montana,
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she had friends that invited her over and
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they enjoyed each other's company,
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but she said it just wasn't the same,
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that they don't spend Christmas together
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like we do.
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And so it just was lacking something for
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her.
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We truly miss our daughter on those
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holidays as much as we wanted to make
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it normal and get through it.
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We did the best we could.
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And I'm so proud of her.
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She's killing it at life,
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killing it at life.
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And I want her to keep doing that
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and keep being a success.
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But, you know, she's my kid.
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She's my only kid.
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And just miss her tremendously.
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So that's that.
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We made it through the holidays.
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Now I'm into my birthday week.
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So my birthday is this Thursday.
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Um,
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I've promised you guys all like a hot
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sauce challenge at some point this week.
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I need to talk to Corey,
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see how we can kind of figure that
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out.
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Um, but yeah,
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we'll do some fun stuff hopefully this
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week for my birthday and yeah,
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we'll see what's going on.
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So last night's day to play for the
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bears game.
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Um,
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They went to San Francisco or Santa Clara
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to play the forty niners.
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It was an epic offensive battle.
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Game was tied seven, seven, fourteen,
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fourteen, twenty one, twenty one,
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twenty eight,
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twenty eight and thirty five, thirty five.
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The Bears went ahead.
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Thirty eight, thirty five.
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And then San Francisco scored,
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making it forty two, thirty eight.
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The Bears got the ball back with two
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minutes left.
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They have been riding that knife all
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season long of trying to make the comeback
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with two minutes to go.
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They marched the whole way down the field.
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They get the ball to the, what,
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four-yard line with maybe three-yard line
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with four seconds left to go,
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one play left.
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Um, Caleb drops back,
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avoids a sack floats out to the left
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where he is met with two forty niners.
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He has to back up and then throw
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moving backwards to try to hit his guy
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in the end zone and, uh,
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and it falls short.
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but what, what an amazing,
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what an amazing game.
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And I didn't expect any of this,
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this season.
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I expected them to like get better this
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season.
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And then next year be the year they
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make a run for it all.
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And, and, and they did,
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they've been awesome.
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They,
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they hung with a playoff team in their
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home stadium stadium until the very bitter
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end of the game.
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Um,
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but I'm not confident about their defense.
5:35
I'm not confident about San Francisco's
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defense.
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This year's NFC playoffs are the Rams who
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have both.
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And then three teams that have a great
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offense, Chicago, San Francisco,
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and maybe the Panthers or Bucks.
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And then three teams that don't have a
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defense or that don't have a good offense
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like Philly, Seattle,
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So it's going to be a have-have-not season
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in the playoffs.
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It's going to be interesting to see.
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We'll see how it all goes down.
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But at least the Bears get a home
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playoff game.
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They clinch the NFC North on Saturday
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night.
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Now they have to play next week to
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see who gets the two and the three
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seed between them and Philadelphia.
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Um, so yeah,
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we'll see how it goes from there,
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but at least the bears get a home
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playoff game.
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If they can win Sunday,
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they'll get two home playoff games if they
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can win out, um, which would be awesome.
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Uh, so super excited for that, but, uh,
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we'll get into some CrossFit stuff.
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We're coming to the end of the fantasy
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football league too.
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This was the last week of the fantasy
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football league, uh,
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Jamie and Natalie Lemieux were playing for
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the championship.
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They still have players tonight,
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but the winner is going to get this
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as their trophy.
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I don't know if you guys can see
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that.
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But it is a championship ring.
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I grew up in an era where that
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was the big thing, the cool thing,
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everybody's quest for the ring.
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So it's got some jewels in it.
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It is a twenty twenty five fantasy
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football league championship ring.
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I try to have fun trophies for the
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events we do here on the show.
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So that'll be mailed out to whoever wins
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the fantasy football league tonight,
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either Jamie Latimer or Natalie Lemieux.
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One of the two of them will be
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getting that championship ring for winning
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the Clydesdale fantasy football league
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this season.
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So, yeah.
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Those are all kind of the news updates.
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I have needed it so much this weekend
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to recover from all the holiday
8:06
festivities.
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it,
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it just does so much to recover my
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body, uh,
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from all the toll of lifting and tugging
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and all that kind of stuff.
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Um, with the, the grass fed beef collagen,
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it helps so much.
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Um,
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And yeah, and I sleep through the night,
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which is great.
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I just, I wanted more sleep this morning.
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The game went late,
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which I could have got just a little
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bit more,
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but glad I got deep sleep with my
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game changer for me.
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I'm hearing that from so many people.
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Yeah.
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It has been a lifesaver for me as
8:53
I go into this month of all the
8:56
procedures and getting my sinuses cleaned
8:59
out and getting my biopsy on my lungs,
9:01
all that's happening at the end of this
9:02
month.
9:04
Um,
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but at least I can sleep up until
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then.
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So that has been awesome.
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So glad it's working for you.
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Trinked olive or winter.
9:15
We'll call you winter today.
9:17
Um,
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The other thing I want to talk about
9:20
is Dense Updates, or Jenny,
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did a great year in review episode this
9:27
morning.
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If you haven't checked it out,
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please go do so.
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I think she counted out fourteen of the
9:35
hottest topics of the year and gave a
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brief recap of that.
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It's amazing that some of this stuff...
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happened this year it feels like eons ago
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as i'm watching that and i'm like holy
9:50
cow that did happen this year um and
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She did great.
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There's Grant for keeping it real.
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He did the Kale Layman story on the
10:01
Dense Updates, updating us on that.
10:03
That seems like three years ago at this
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point with everything that's been going on
10:08
this year.
10:09
But the main theme of her Dense Updates
10:12
was people say CrossFit is dead and...
10:18
she was proving that there are so many
10:20
stories, so much new media,
10:22
so much expanded media that there's no way
10:25
you can say that CrossFit is dead.
10:27
People are talking about it left and
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right.
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Uh,
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she included the stories of Daniel
10:32
Brandon.
10:32
She included, um, the stories of the sale.
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Uh,
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it's really a good recap of the year
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to kind of reset everything that, um,
10:44
that was going on this year and to
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show that there is so much activity around
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the sport.
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Yeah, some of the numbers are down,
10:53
but we're coming off some weird stuff.
10:54
Hopefully that can clear up and we can
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move in a direction.
10:59
Hopefully we hear more about a sale or
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where it's going,
11:02
what direction it may go.
11:05
So Vaughn teased this morning that he has
11:07
some news on that front that he's going
11:09
to talk about on their Friday update show.
11:12
So make sure you tune into that.
11:14
I know I will to see what's going
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on and what news they have.
11:18
on their front.
11:20
But hopefully, I mean,
11:21
I would have thought that we were sold
11:23
by now,
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but it definitely has not happened.
11:26
It looks like it stalled.
11:29
Again,
11:29
Sevan teased this morning that there is
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some talk of some stuff actually going on
11:37
right now,
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but he is not releasing that information
11:40
until their Friday CrossFit update show.
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So...
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It made me kind of reflect a little
11:47
bit about what we've been doing here and
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we've made some significant changes over
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the last year that has honestly increased
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growth tremendously for our channel.
12:01
And thank you to all of you who
12:03
listen every day.
12:05
We've created this little tribe that meets
12:08
every day at lunch, hangs out and chats.
12:13
That's one of the big things that we
12:14
changed.
12:15
We have done a daily lunch show that
12:19
has never been something in our
12:21
repertoire.
12:21
And it actually just kind of came about
12:24
twofold that...
12:30
that I wanted to find a way where
12:33
I could just sit here and talk to
12:34
you, the audience,
12:36
at the drop of a hat and talk
12:38
about news,
12:39
talk about things that are going on in
12:41
life,
12:41
things that are going on in the
12:43
entertainment world,
12:44
things that are going on in sports,
12:47
and just get more comfortable with me
12:49
talking to a camera and not to a
12:51
co-host or not to somebody else.
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But in addition to that,
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I found a new co-host, and that's Corey.
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Corey Leonard has become a mainstay on
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this lunch show.
13:03
He comes on once or twice or whatever
13:06
throughout the week,
13:06
and it does give a nice change up
13:08
to the week for me as a host
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because when he comes on,
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I have no clue what we're going to
13:15
talk about.
13:16
Um,
13:17
and it just adds some variety to me.
13:19
Um,
13:20
and hopefully that gives a freshness for
13:22
you guys that the topics go in different
13:24
directions.
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And, um, yeah, so that those,
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that's the main thing that's happened this
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year.
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Uh, Larry Young says, uh,
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CrossFit is not dead for me.
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I'm pushing harder than I have.
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Uh,
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wish I had a shot at the top,
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but probably not.
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You never know, buddy.
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Keep, keep at it.
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uh train olive i'm so glad you decided
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to add the lunch show uh me too
13:51
it's been it's really been a cool thing
13:55
to have this group to hang out with
13:56
every day and just chat and talk and
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and it's made it so i cannot wait
14:02
i cannot wait for live events again to
14:04
maybe meet some of you out there on
14:06
the road in the upcoming year because i'm
14:09
hoping with this surgery done at the end
14:12
of the month
14:13
And my wife's two new knees now that
14:16
we don't have these things that prevent me
14:18
from hitting the road this year and that
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I can come meet you all in person.
14:24
I got to meet Joseph Ramirez at the
14:25
games last year.
14:27
I've met Larry Young a couple of times.
14:29
I met Grant at the games a couple
14:31
of years ago.
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Like that's the fun stuff, man.
14:33
I cannot wait to meet you all in
14:36
person.
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And that's one of my goals for this
14:38
year.
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The other thing that was major difference
14:44
this year is we got the glitter band.
14:47
We got the glitter band for the games.
14:49
We got to do full backstage stuff,
14:52
which I'm still working on finishing up
14:55
the Hattie Cano documentary.
14:58
I know I've promised it a lot.
14:59
It's just so much has been hitting us.
15:02
And so I'm going to get little short
15:03
times to work on that.
15:07
My team at work went from three to
15:09
two.
15:09
So now two of us are covering the
15:11
same amount of work that three used to.
15:13
And it just doesn't allow for a lot
15:15
of time to dedicate to that documentary.
15:20
But it's still in the works.
15:21
It's still being worked on.
15:23
And I'm hoping to get it out.
15:25
sometime in January.
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That is my goal.
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You know,
15:29
I used to always complain about when
15:32
documentaries were announced by CrossFit
15:34
and it took forever for them to come
15:35
out.
15:36
And it does take a lot of time,
15:37
especially when you're a one-man show.
15:40
doing all the editing,
15:41
doing all the cutting, all the music,
15:47
trying to find all that stuff.
15:49
It is a painstaking process.
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One that I love doing,
15:53
I just don't have a lot of time
15:54
to set that aside.
15:59
But yeah, we're hoping to get that out.
16:01
We put out part one.
16:02
There's only a part two.
16:04
So one and two.
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Part two will be out hopefully in January.
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That's my goal.
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I'm setting that goal with a hard deadline
16:12
of the end of January.
16:13
And I need to do that to force
16:15
myself to get it done.
16:18
So that should be coming out soon.
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Terry says,
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you and Corey are great together.
16:26
Corey, if people don't know,
16:27
I met him at the Masters Fitness
16:29
Championships.
16:31
I truly met him in the chat.
16:33
But then I was debating on whether going
16:37
to the Masters Fitness Championships.
16:39
He had qualified.
16:42
One of his buddies was going to come
16:43
with him and got injured and couldn't
16:46
compete.
16:47
so he had an extra space in his
16:50
room and invited me to stay with him
16:53
for the weekend so uh fort wayne is
16:55
only a two and a half hour drive
16:57
for me i drove up i stayed with
16:59
corey for the weekend we became immediate
17:02
friends um he was competing i was filming
17:06
and doing some little vignettes with
17:08
different athletes and uh we had a blast
17:12
we had a blast that weekend um
17:15
And our schedules were very different.
17:17
So we were almost like passing like ships
17:19
in the night,
17:21
coming and going at different times.
17:25
But that's where we met.
17:26
I got to see him on the floor
17:27
compete.
17:28
It was so much fun seeing the energy
17:31
he brings.
17:32
And with that,
17:33
I started bringing him on the show.
17:35
And it has been awesome.
17:37
It has been really, really awesome.
17:39
to get to know him even better.
17:41
And I consider him like one of my
17:43
best friends now.
17:45
So super stoked that that happened this
17:47
year.
17:49
And yes, Joseph,
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so good to meet you at the games.
17:52
It was so weird how we met because
17:55
I was actually looking for John Hurd and
17:57
you just happened to be sitting in the
17:59
same row as him.
18:00
And that's how we met.
18:01
And that was really cool that we got
18:03
to do that.
18:05
So fun stuff there.
18:10
But yeah,
18:10
it has been for a year where I
18:12
couldn't travel as much because of my
18:14
wife's surgeries to get, to go to Albany,
18:17
to get, to go to the games.
18:19
Um,
18:22
to do all that to cover the sport
18:24
like we did even though i couldn't travel
18:27
as much and to grow this audience through
18:30
this lunch show has been amazing this year
18:33
and i thank each and every one of
18:34
you for being here every day um because
18:36
i truly appreciate each and every one of
18:38
you and the and the thing that's really
18:40
changed is i used to do just a
18:41
ton of interviews right
18:44
from people all over the sport,
18:45
whether they be a semifinal athlete,
18:47
a master's athlete, an elite athlete,
18:50
whatever it may be.
18:52
And I've really backed those way off.
18:54
And it's almost become a thing where I
18:58
had to do it because...
19:02
with the way my work is working now,
19:04
I just can't drop work to jump on
19:07
an interview.
19:09
And when you're trying to interview
19:10
athletes,
19:11
timing is so hard to nail down where
19:15
it works for my work schedule and it
19:17
works for their training schedule.
19:20
And so with that,
19:21
I've really taken a back seat when it
19:24
comes to doing interviews with athletes.
19:27
and really leaned into these daily shows
19:31
like this.
19:33
And really, when I talk to athletes now,
19:36
it's just asking them questions off air to
19:40
increase my knowledge and talk about
19:42
things more
19:46
with more authority than I would
19:50
otherwise.
19:51
Being able to talk to them off the
19:53
record and keep...
19:57
keep things secret that need to be kept
20:00
secret.
20:00
But that gives me like an idea of
20:03
where things are going for people and I
20:05
can, uh, follow along better and,
20:08
and then have those discussions with you
20:10
in a way that, um, doesn't ruin their,
20:13
um,
20:14
their secret or whatever they're going
20:17
through.
20:18
And, um, and so, yeah,
20:22
it's really changed that way.
20:25
Um,
20:28
And I think what's crazy is you would
20:30
think that having elite athletes on would
20:34
increase the visibility of the show,
20:36
and it really doesn't.
20:38
They are not like the needle movers that
20:42
you think they are, which is crazy.
20:44
Unless you're like Hiller and going and
20:46
doing like a forty eight hours with or
20:49
something new and exciting and vibrant,
20:52
it doesn't it doesn't move the needle
20:53
much.
20:54
And the elite athletes don't move it much
20:56
at all.
20:57
I actually find like the semifinal
21:00
athletes move the needle more because they
21:02
share it with everybody they know.
21:05
Cause they don't get these opportunities
21:07
very often.
21:08
And so they're sharing it to Instagram.
21:09
They're sharing it to their own YouTube.
21:11
They're sharing it with every family
21:13
member they got.
21:15
Um, so yeah.
21:19
That's really the reason behind it.
21:21
So it's all of those things that we've
21:23
switched this format.
21:25
Mostly now it's because I just love
21:28
hanging out with you guys every day in
21:29
the middle of my workday to catch my
21:32
breath,
21:33
to get kind of rejuvenated a little bit
21:36
and see what's going on with all of
21:38
you.
21:43
Jody asks,
21:44
what is the next event you'll go to
21:46
in person?
21:48
I haven't really made any of those
21:50
decisions yet.
21:52
I kind of am one of those guys
21:53
where I want to get through the next
21:55
thing first.
21:56
And that is the end of January,
21:58
I have the sinus surgery.
21:59
I have the biopsy on my lungs.
22:01
I find out a lot after that week.
22:07
And then I'll look at the schedule and
22:09
I'll try to determine how I can work
22:11
things out.
22:13
The one event I really,
22:15
really enjoy going to that's not a bad
22:19
drive for me is Syndicate Crown.
22:21
So I'll most likely go to Syndicate Crown.
22:25
I may try to go to Mayhem.
22:27
I don't know yet.
22:30
Mayhem's tough because I don't know what
22:32
kind of content I can get out of
22:34
that.
22:34
I've heard that the people that went last
22:37
year had very restricted access compared
22:41
to their own media team,
22:42
which completely makes sense that they
22:45
would want to give more access to their
22:49
own media team than an outside party.
22:52
And they put out so much content that...
22:57
I give them a pass on that because
22:59
they do as much as they can with
23:02
what they provide there,
23:04
and it's their show.
23:06
so um so syndicate crown is most likely
23:11
a definite now that wilson lives up the
23:14
street and we've been talking um i want
23:17
to support his event so most likely i'll
23:21
be at syndicate crown um joseph asks about
23:25
crash i'd love to go to crash um
23:31
I think I'm going to try to go
23:32
to Crash this year.
23:34
My wife has a ton of family in
23:37
the North Carolina, South Carolina area.
23:40
And if I can pair it with her
23:44
getting to visit family and I go to
23:46
the event,
23:47
I think we can pull that off.
23:49
because her one cousin that she hangs out
23:51
with a lot just moved to South Carolina
23:55
or just south of the North Carolina
23:58
border.
23:59
So it's probably only about a half an
24:00
hour away from Crash.
24:03
So Syndicate and Crash seem pretty good.
24:06
And I do have my hotel reservations for
24:08
the games.
24:11
So that's already done.
24:14
I just have to figure out like that
24:16
with visiting my daughter.
24:23
Joseph,
24:23
those sound like my plans right there.
24:25
I'm planning on going to Syndicate and
24:26
Crash and I already have Airbnb for the
24:28
games.
24:29
Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at.
24:31
I have my hotel reservation at the games
24:35
and I'll probably go to Syndicate and I'll
24:37
go to Crash.
24:39
That seems good.
24:44
Joseph, you're a groupie.
24:46
I love it, says Jody.
24:46
Yeah, we are CrossFit nerds, aren't we?
24:52
We love to go to these events.
24:57
So I had a comment from last week's
25:00
show that I wanted to pull up and
25:05
just kind of talk about.
25:09
So I'm going to share my screen.
25:19
So it's this comment from Ben...
25:22
Benetal or Benito one, six, five.
25:29
I don't know if I agree with minimum
25:31
work requirement because it's a season.
25:34
So if you sit down an event or
25:36
two and get zero,
25:37
but you get points on the other ones
25:39
that add towards your season score,
25:42
I'm fine with that.
25:43
Otherwise,
25:44
people's whole season would be screwed up.
25:46
What if that happened at tour stop one
25:48
and you didn't make a minimum work
25:50
requirement on a workout and got
25:53
disqualified from that tour stop?
25:55
The rest of your season would be affected
25:57
and you'd probably sit it out.
26:02
Here's what I would say to that.
26:04
Injuries are a part of sport.
26:06
And the one thing I have a hard
26:08
time remembering is in this CrossFit
26:11
space,
26:12
there are a big group of people that
26:15
this is the only sport that they watch.
26:19
If I told you that Fee Sagafi should
26:25
not have been able to continue on after
26:27
sitting out an event at the World Fitness
26:31
Project finals, everybody's like,
26:34
that's unfair.
26:35
She'd just give her a zero for that
26:37
event and she should move on.
26:40
It would be the same as me saying
26:43
that Tiger Woods...
26:46
can sit out holes eight and nine on
26:49
a golf course and then come back on
26:52
hole ten and finish out the round of
26:55
this tour stop.
27:00
Injuries happen in sports all the time.
27:03
All the time.
27:04
If you watched the Bears' forty-niners
27:06
game last night,
27:07
the forty-niners have lost five
27:10
A lot of their stars on defense.
27:12
A lot of their stars on defense.
27:14
They don't get a pass on that.
27:16
They don't get an exemption for that.
27:19
They have to figure out how to play
27:20
without them.
27:22
If you went to a tennis match,
27:24
which is an individual sport just like
27:26
CrossFit,
27:27
and you went to the French Open and
27:30
you got hurt in the second round,
27:32
they don't let you sit out round three
27:34
and four and come back in round five.
27:38
It doesn't happen in other sports.
27:41
So I don't understand why it's such a
27:44
big deal that if you're hurt and cannot
27:47
complete the event,
27:49
this is a test of fitness,
27:51
of everything that they can throw at you
27:53
in this weekend or this season or whatever
27:56
it is.
27:57
If you skip a part of the test
28:00
and then come back to compete in the
28:02
rest, it's an unfair advantage to you.
28:09
Because the other people stayed healthy
28:11
enough to compete in every event.
28:16
Staying healthy is part of the test.
28:23
You have to stay healthy.
28:25
You have to.
28:27
Now,
28:28
if they set up a tour where you
28:30
have to show up at three out of
28:33
five events and you get three scores going
28:37
into the finals,
28:38
like they do in some of the golf
28:41
events or in some of the tennis events,
28:43
then that is part of the rules that
28:45
you just pick the three you're going to.
28:48
And maybe you can avoid a tournament or
28:51
two because of an injury and let it
28:53
rest.
28:54
But that's not how this works out.
28:56
This works out where every event is scored
29:00
and it is one complete season from tour
29:04
stop one to the finals.
29:06
Every event counts.
29:08
You should have to compete in every one
29:11
of the events or suffer the consequences
29:15
of not appearing at an event because of
29:17
injury.
29:19
And there were a handful of people that
29:20
did not do a tour stop and still
29:22
qualified for a pro card.
29:26
Namely,
29:26
Jeff Adler skipped tour stop two
29:28
completely, came back in the finals,
29:30
and still got a pro card.
29:34
So he was hurt,
29:35
could not compete in tour stop two,
29:37
didn't show up and do three of the
29:39
six events.
29:40
He didn't do any of the events and
29:43
still was able to go on and by
29:45
rule was able to complete and qualify for
29:50
a pro card.
29:56
Now,
29:56
do I think the point system is right?
30:01
And...
30:03
No,
30:03
I think that double points is too much
30:05
for the finals.
30:06
It's putting too much emphasis on that.
30:09
I really like Jamie's idea of the raw
30:11
score just carrying over from tour stop to
30:14
tour stop.
30:16
But I do think that if you cannot
30:18
complete the events at that tour stop,
30:22
there should be a minimum work
30:23
requirement.
30:24
And if you can't go on,
30:25
you can't go on.
30:29
And the reason that it's an unfair
30:32
advantage is because if you rest two
30:35
events and you come back for event three,
30:38
you are rested while the others have
30:41
worked their tail off through two events
30:44
and then come back and try to compete
30:46
against you fresh in event three.
30:49
It just taints the scoring completely and
30:52
it gives an unfair advantage to the
30:54
injured athlete.
31:02
Um, Vicky, uh, unfair advantage for sure.
31:05
Even with sitting out event,
31:07
one event allows for extra recovery, uh,
31:11
train all of all good points.
31:14
Um, dense Jenny says, I agree.
31:17
Jenny, great job on the recap show.
31:19
Loved it.
31:20
Um,
31:22
and then we have Grace's fifteen forty.
31:25
I don't see how that's a problem.
31:27
If they're modeling it on golf,
31:29
golfers don't do every event on the tour,
31:31
right?
31:33
they don't,
31:34
but they don't do half a tour event.
31:37
No golfer goes to the Memorial Tournament
31:41
and does nine of the eighteen holes and
31:46
counts their score.
31:49
If WFP wants to have five tour events
31:53
and you only have to do three of
31:55
them, then it's more like golf.
31:57
You can choose the three you want to
31:59
do.
32:00
What happened with Fi,
32:02
and I'm not picking on Fi,
32:03
I love Fi,
32:04
but she showed up and she only did
32:06
the events she was able to do.
32:08
Getting points for those events,
32:10
but nothing else.
32:12
That is where it's an unfair advantage,
32:14
doing half of the events on that tour
32:17
stop.
32:18
If you're in golf and you go to
32:20
the tour stop,
32:21
you play all the holes that you play
32:25
on that tour stop.
32:38
Did they say something about changing the
32:40
points for next year's season?
32:41
I have not heard that, Holly, at all.
32:45
But then again,
32:46
I have really been kind of out of
32:48
it over the weekend.
32:50
Jody says,
32:51
will WFP even have another season?
32:53
Every pundit has it as a once and
32:55
done pursuit.
32:58
I do think they're going to have another
32:59
season for sure.
33:02
People have guaranteed money coming to
33:04
them.
33:05
I think they're going to want to sign
33:07
up and collect it.
33:09
or if they didn't think there was going
33:10
to be a season two,
33:12
I don't think you'd have Adler and James
33:15
and Dallin show up in Copenhagen to get
33:17
that true, get that pro card.
33:25
I don't think they would have done that.
33:32
Lito,
33:32
also recovery from a golf event isn't the
33:34
same as recovering from a CrossFit event.
33:37
Granted, but again,
33:39
golf does not let you come and take
33:41
a couple holes off and then jump back
33:44
in and play the rest of the holes.
33:45
They don't let that happen.
33:51
John George says,
33:52
Grant's cameo on Jenny's recap was funny
33:54
as F. It was good.
33:56
It was really good.
33:57
It was a nice,
33:59
pleasant surprise and a full circle moment
34:04
for Jenny and Grant.
34:09
That's true.
34:10
Gracie says that's true.
34:12
But did fee get a pro card?
34:13
I thought she didn't.
34:14
She did not.
34:15
But when you're when you're taking points
34:18
from other athletes because you've jumped
34:21
back in,
34:22
that's where it really gets twisted.
34:25
So she takes off to events.
34:27
She comes back in,
34:28
and maybe she gets a top five.
34:30
And I'm just saying hypothetically because
34:32
I can't remember all of her finishes.
34:34
She gets a top five.
34:34
She gets all the points for that top
34:36
five.
34:38
If she would not have been able to
34:39
continue,
34:39
some other athlete would have gotten that
34:42
place, and they lose those points.
34:45
And if you looked at the end of
34:46
the WFP season,
34:48
there were a ton of ties.
34:50
a ton of ties.
34:52
So that placement could have made a huge
34:54
difference in what level of pro card you
34:58
got at the end of the season.
35:12
Exactly, Wayne.
35:13
She impacted points for others trying to
35:15
get their card.
35:16
Right.
35:17
And you had a tie for first.
35:19
You had a three-way tie for third.
35:23
There were so many ties that every little
35:25
point mattered on that women's division.
35:34
Grace says, okay,
35:35
I see what you're saying.
35:36
I don't necessarily agree,
35:37
but I see your point.
35:41
Right,
35:42
and the comment that I'm reading here,
35:44
she's entitled to that opinion,
35:47
or he or she is entitled to that
35:49
opinion,
35:50
and you're entitled to yours as well.
35:52
I'm just telling you as a sports fan
35:54
watching other sports,
35:55
it doesn't make sense to me.
36:01
And so I have a hard time accepting
36:05
why someone would be able to compete for
36:07
a couple events,
36:08
take a couple off and then come back.
36:11
It just it doesn't compute in my brain
36:13
after watching and being a sports fan my
36:15
entire life watching other sports.
36:20
And so that's why I brought it up.
36:22
I'm not here to bash on anybody.
36:24
Everybody's entitled to their opinion.
36:27
But my opinion is that it skews things
36:31
for people, just like John George says.
36:34
It's dumb and skews the points.
36:36
Same thing happens when CrossFit count
36:37
scores in quarterfinals or semis for
36:40
athletes that don't do all the tests.
36:42
It's just dumb.
36:43
Do them all or get a zero for
36:45
all of them.
36:46
Yeah.
36:47
I mean, that's even a bigger issue, John.
36:49
Um, I agree with you.
36:55
And it, and it,
36:56
it even goes to the place where if
36:58
one person inputs an incorrect score,
37:02
but because they're so far down the
37:03
leaderboard, nobody checks it.
37:05
It skews the overall points for other
37:07
people.
37:08
That is such a massive problem in the
37:11
opening quarterfinals.
37:13
Um,
37:15
but I don't even know how you fix
37:16
it.
37:18
I mean,
37:18
I could see where if you didn't do
37:19
all the events,
37:20
you just get eliminated from the
37:21
leaderboard.
37:22
That seems like the easy fix,
37:24
but the video review of people who could
37:27
skew scores with the number of people that
37:30
CrossFit has doing the reviews and the
37:32
number of people that enter the open,
37:34
and we don't want to discourage people
37:35
from entering the open.
37:38
It just seems to be,
37:41
almost an impossible task to figure out
37:44
how to fix that.
37:50
So yeah, I see what you're saying.
37:53
And it is a mess.
37:55
It's not just a WFP problem.
37:58
If you think back to the twenty twenty
38:00
three semifinals in Orlando,
38:02
when Alex Caron was told that he didn't
38:06
meet the minimum minimum work requirement
38:09
and was exited from the competition,
38:14
even though CrossFit didn't post a minimum
38:16
work requirement.
38:18
they said it was due to it created
38:20
an unfair balance by him not even making
38:23
an attempt on the ring muscle-up.
38:25
This has been an issue for a long
38:27
time in CrossFit as well as WFP.
38:31
I think there should be established
38:33
minimum work requirements.
38:34
If you get to semifinals and you can't
38:37
do a ring muscle-up,
38:40
should you be allowed to then compete for
38:42
the games?
38:43
If you are unable to do a ring
38:46
muscle-up,
38:47
you are not able to compete at the
38:49
CrossFit Games,
38:53
and someone else should get that shot.
39:00
I do not disagree with you, Graces,
39:02
fifteen forty.
39:03
People were pissed about it.
39:05
But again,
39:05
that's one of those things that never
39:07
computed in my head that people should be
39:10
pissed off about it,
39:12
because if you can't do the event,
39:15
you shouldn't be able to take it off
39:17
and then come back and continue to
39:18
compete.
39:20
The test to get to the games is
39:23
this complete six event test,
39:26
which happened at that semifinal.
39:28
If you cannot complete the six events that
39:32
are testing this balanced fitness level,
39:36
you shouldn't be allowed to compete at the
39:37
games.
39:48
Wayne Short,
39:48
they need to release season tour stop
39:51
dates soon so athletes can plan.
39:52
Season starts in less than sixty days.
39:55
Yeah,
39:55
that's another animal that maybe we'll
39:57
touch on later this week.
40:00
Alito,
40:01
what is the minimum work requirements
40:02
point for you, Scott,
40:03
to prove that the athlete can physically
40:05
do a movement or to tire him or
40:07
her out enough to make it fair?
40:10
Yes.
40:12
It is both of those.
40:17
it is one,
40:18
you should be able to prove that you
40:20
can do the movement.
40:21
If you cannot do that movement,
40:24
then you shouldn't be a CrossFit Games
40:26
athlete.
40:29
If you...
40:32
can't do the movements and you want to
40:36
take an event off,
40:40
you should have to do at least this
40:42
much of the event to be tired out
40:44
so that it's fair for the rest of
40:46
the competition.
40:47
Yes, both of those.
40:49
But like in the Alex Caron situation,
40:53
if you can't do a ring muscle-up,
40:54
should you be going to the games?
40:56
Yes.
40:58
And in that moment,
40:59
that's the test that you're given.
41:01
If you can't pass that test,
41:04
you shouldn't go to the games.
41:10
In Fee's case at WFP,
41:12
if you can't do a deficit handstand
41:15
pushup, which was the test,
41:18
you shouldn't get a pro card.
41:21
And I know it was due to injury,
41:23
but injuries happen in sports.
41:26
And on that day and on that test,
41:29
you couldn't complete the test.
41:39
So that is my belief.
41:43
You need to be able to complete the
41:44
test given today.
41:47
And if you cannot,
41:50
then you're not a games athlete.
41:52
You're not a pro card member.
42:00
Lito agreed.
42:01
Same for max lifts, lift events,
42:04
in my opinion.
42:04
You can't just do a thirty five kilogram
42:06
snatch and call today.
42:08
Totally agree.
42:10
And that minimum work requirement should
42:12
be established.
42:14
Now,
42:14
if you get three shots and you are
42:18
making valiant attempts at a legit weight,
42:22
that is making a valiant attempt.
42:25
And you're getting it overhead.
42:27
You just miss it.
42:29
That's one thing.
42:30
But to give up and just pick up
42:32
a bar and throw it over your head,
42:34
no.
42:35
Not cool.
42:40
Train Olive,
42:41
is it different to you if an athlete
42:44
comes into the competition with an injury
42:46
versus anyone during the competition?
42:48
No.
42:49
If you cannot complete the test given to
42:51
you at that moment,
42:54
you cannot prove that you deserve to move
42:57
up to either a games athlete position or
43:03
a World Fitness Project pro card.
43:10
Grace says,
43:11
I don't think you should distinguish
43:15
between people.
43:18
It's hard to distinguish because people
43:21
hide injuries.
43:22
If you can complete the test,
43:26
then it doesn't matter if you're hiding an
43:28
injury or not.
43:31
You are given a six event test.
43:34
You should have to complete all six events
43:37
to be able to be tested to go
43:39
to the games.
43:40
Whether you're hiding an injury or not,
43:43
some people can fight through an injury
43:44
and be able to do the test.
43:46
More power to them.
44:01
I think Kenneth Lap wrote in the wrong
44:03
chat.
44:09
Alito, it's harsh,
44:10
but they've got more opportunities than
44:12
ever.
44:12
So if the live event doesn't go their
44:16
way, they can do online semis.
44:18
Being the fittest also means being
44:20
injury-free relatively.
44:21
Exactly.
44:22
Exactly.
44:24
It is harsh,
44:25
but sports are harsh sometimes.
44:28
Sports are hard.
44:31
The people at the pro level of any
44:33
sport are the best in the world.
44:36
And they fought through a lot to get
44:37
there.
44:38
And part of that is staying healthy or
44:41
healthy enough to complete the test.
44:44
People play hurt all the time,
44:46
but they can complete the test that they
44:48
are given or the task they are given.
44:55
Train all of how is it any different
44:57
when there are lower level athletes, i.e.
44:59
when they had the countries compete and
45:01
they couldn't finish a workout though.
45:04
I can't factor that in.
45:06
That is not the format we have today.
45:08
That was a weird and wild thing that
45:11
happened back then.
45:13
Now we only get thirty people to the
45:15
games and to make sure the right thirty
45:17
get to the games.
45:19
You better complete the test.
45:30
Wayne Short,
45:31
especially where cash is paid for events,
45:33
he could just sit out every event and
45:37
win the one rep max events.
45:38
He could.
45:39
And is that fair?
45:41
Is that fair to the other people who
45:42
have tired themselves out on all the other
45:44
events to then try to compete against him
45:48
in those events?
45:59
Lito, train a la faire,
46:01
but there was essentially a minimum work
46:02
requirement, i.e.
46:03
they got cut after an event.
46:06
Very true.
46:09
And Winner's just playing devil's
46:10
advocate.
46:13
And now she's laughing.
46:15
She's just trying to push those buttons.
46:20
You guys almost got me.
46:24
Um...
46:28
John George asks,
46:29
doesn't Guy do that anyway?
46:32
Kind of.
46:33
But at least he has to go through
46:34
the motions of the other events.
46:36
He meets a minimum work requirement.
46:41
And that's all I'm asking.
46:42
You have to do all the test questions.
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He doesn't ever sit out.
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He doesn't ever sit out.
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That's one thing you can say.
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Well, that was a fun discussion,
46:55
everybody.
46:59
Glad to be back with you guys,
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but now I have to get back to
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work.
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So much fun being with you.
47:06
I will be back most of the week,
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I think.
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Again, it's my birthday week,
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so I don't know my schedule exactly
47:17
because I'm not totally in control of it
47:19
this week.
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But once I know more tomorrow,
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I'll let you guys know.
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If you guys have any topics that you
47:25
want to talk about,
47:26
shoot them to me either in the comments
47:28
on YouTube or shoot me a DM through
47:32
Instagram and we'll line those things up.
47:35
If you haven't already gone and checked it
47:37
out, go check out Dense Updates,
47:41
Jenny's updates from last year.
47:43
Really fun watch.
47:45
And I'll try to pull out some things
47:46
that I think were big time moments from
47:51
five and we'll talk about those this week
47:54
and thank you everybody for the birthday
47:55
wishes but it's not till thursday my
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birthday is this thursday and i'm hoping
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to do a hot sauce challenge with cory
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we'll see how that goes did one a
48:08
few years back we're gonna reopen it for
48:11
one more time and i will see how
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that goes
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Other than that, guys,
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have a great New Year's week,
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and we will see you tomorrow on lunch
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with the Clydesdale.
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Bye, guys.