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PORSCHA COLEMAN - Resilience in a Blanket · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Colleen Witt, and today we have very
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  Speaker 1: special guest actress and host Portia Coleman is in the building. Ramona,
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  Speaker 1: how are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good with just cooking of things, you know, not much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you already getting started. Why don't you go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: I mean you are not wasting any time?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: On this show, we do have a phrase, the broker
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  Speaker 1: the dish, the better the story. This dish was definitely
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  Speaker 1: under I want to say, or ten bucks probably. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and tell our listeners what are you gonna
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  Speaker 1: have me eating today?
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  Speaker 2: Listen? So I'm gonna have y'all eating pigs and a blanket.
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  Speaker 2: It's the perfect struggle meal because everybody knows a good
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  Speaker 2: hot dog. Yeah, but I never loved the hot dog
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  Speaker 2: buns as much as I like these biscuits.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the biscuits. You didn't even choose the chrismal.
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  Speaker 2: No, not Caissant's. The biscuits is by the time you
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  Speaker 2: pack them and you put them in and they get fluffy.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me, these pigs in a banket. It fills you
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  Speaker 2: up while you're struggling, but at the same time you
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  Speaker 2: appreciate it because it cooks. Usually I would always actually
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  Speaker 2: heat and cook my wieners first. Okay, okay, so I
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  Speaker 2: do that first usually, but they could still cook while
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  Speaker 2: in here too. So you take it like this. You
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  Speaker 2: take it and you roll it.
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  Speaker 1: So when you cook it, are you putting it in hot?
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  Speaker 2: I put the usually the wieners in fully cooked, but no,
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  Speaker 2: you put it in because the biscuit's gonna cook, and
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  Speaker 2: then the winner can cook inside it at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Usually it's about fifteen minutes. I like my stuff well done,
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  Speaker 2: so I like to leave it in there so it's
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  Speaker 2: literally easy. And what I'm gonna do is, I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: gonna like put a little butter already in the pan
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  Speaker 2: because you don't want it to stick. You gotta have
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  Speaker 2: it be nice and greasy so it can kind of
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  Speaker 2: like toast a little bit too, like underneath it.
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  Speaker 1: And then we got you the buster the butter biscuits.
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  Speaker 1: If I didn't know you were gonna cook your first,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure on the show.
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  Speaker 2: I always like, I like to cook my wieners first,
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  Speaker 2: but it's okay because it can still cooked while inside.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a problem. But no, I like to butter
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  Speaker 2: this little pan. But see like this little I mean,
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  Speaker 2: look how cute.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's cute. I didn't know how you were gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you take it and you roll it up again
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  Speaker 2: struggle meal.
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  Speaker 1: So you won't see the you won't see the hot
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  Speaker 1: dogs from the outside.
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  Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Sometimes you can take them and
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  Speaker 2: cut them up if you want a smaller biscuit. But
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  Speaker 2: since these are the wide ones, you can cut them
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  Speaker 2: up and just still have it throughout. Because if you
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  Speaker 2: take one whole wiener, the whole winer would be extended
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  Speaker 2: past the biscuit. Yeah, so you don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's already going to expand, and so will the wiinner itself,
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  Speaker 2: so you're gonna actually taste Look the wiinner's on both sides.
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  Speaker 2: See it's already here. So I'm telling you talking about struggle.
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  Speaker 2: This right here was my quick go to.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the ingredients are.
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  Speaker 2: Butter biscuits, butter biscuits, a little bit of butter and
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  Speaker 2: some margarine, and all you need is some some hot dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's so simple and so easy. So look, so
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  Speaker 2: see you can go this way like this. So see
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  Speaker 2: how I'm putting them like this. You take them and
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  Speaker 2: you fold it this way, and you do it just
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  Speaker 2: like this, and you cover it because you want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure they don't open up while you're actually putting
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  Speaker 2: them in the Yeah, I'm telling you it looks crazy,
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  Speaker 2: but it's gonna be so delicious.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I'm starving. So you don't ever add
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  Speaker 1: cheese or anything.
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  Speaker 2: No, we'll see these are butter biscuits though. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: you can add cheese, but I personally didn't need cheese
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  Speaker 2: or like them necessarily in between it because again, we
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  Speaker 2: ain't got no cheese. But I never tried it with cheese,
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  Speaker 2: but I never I never needed it because again, these busts.
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  Speaker 2: Look at these biscuits.
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  Speaker 1: These are already so yet it's gonna be good. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna mess with your dish. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: like getting creative from the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. I love it. So see this one, I don't
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  Speaker 2: let's say, I don't want to make it that long.
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  Speaker 2: Take it this way, m hm. You wrap it on.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. We have more than enough weianers
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  Speaker 2: to work with these biscuits. So we're gonna take this
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  Speaker 2: up in here, got it, roll it on down.
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  Speaker 1: And this is what you were doing to get through
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  Speaker 1: the hard times, did you not? So take me back
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  Speaker 1: to what was going on during these hard times.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? So I'm going all the way back
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  Speaker 2: to when I was seven. Okay, So we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about a little project, a movie that I'm sure you
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  Speaker 2: guys will all know called Friday. Oh yeah, I was
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  Speaker 2: a background after at the ice cream truck and Friday. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So just to show how long this process has been,
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  Speaker 2: from seven till now, there's nothing overnight about my success
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  Speaker 2: at all. So I was seven years old, me and
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  Speaker 2: my mom, bugging it out, single mom?
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  Speaker 1: And did you have siblings?
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  Speaker 2: I have an older brother, but he's eighteen years older
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  Speaker 2: than me. Oh jeez, So I was technically raised like
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  Speaker 2: an only child because my.
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  Speaker 1: Brother had an eighteen years spread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, re married God with my dad and why exactly
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  Speaker 2: she said that finished line? She was thirty five and
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  Speaker 2: was like, I'm starting all over again? What is this?
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Yeah? And she actually did just.
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  Speaker 1: Does she ever when she gets mad at you? Like
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  Speaker 1: ever mentioned like I started.
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  Speaker 2: All out over you. Yeah. She used to its me
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  Speaker 2: like that ain't my fault. You chose my daddy, and
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  Speaker 2: my daddy was ten years her junior. Oh, my pops
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  Speaker 2: was twenty she was thirty, and then they got married
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  Speaker 2: to have me at thirty five and twenty five, I said, mine,
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  Speaker 2: you was you was robbing the credle cridle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she know what she was doing.
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  Speaker 2: Still together, No, they're not still together now, Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: my dad actually passing twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: tough because you know the interesting thing about life. I
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  Speaker 2: was with my dad the night before he suddenly passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Oh he suddenly just suddenly passed away. My dad was
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  Speaker 2: only fifty nine. He was fifty nine years old. So
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  Speaker 2: this is just the definition I think, following your intuition.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm out in the valley doing my thing, and
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  Speaker 2: I had a lot of airan chevon. I was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a Marina. My dad lives in Compton Wilmington Central
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  Speaker 2: in LA. And something just told me go see your dad.
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  Speaker 2: And at first I was like, Oh, that's far away,
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  Speaker 2: there's traffic, and I don't know if I should go
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  Speaker 2: do that. Something told me again. I called my dad.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't answer, so I was like, all right, let
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  Speaker 2: me just pop up. I'm gonna go surprise my pops.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably already off work. I know he gonna be home.
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  Speaker 2: Go to his house. He in the garage, hill on
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  Speaker 2: his friends, still in his work outfit. Dotta, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing here? And I'm like, nothing much. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to surprise you. What's up? What are we doing today?
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  Speaker 2: We loved going to Sizzler, we loved doing our this
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  Speaker 2: daddy daughter day and we spent the entire day together,
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  Speaker 2: entire day. So I left, probably it was I got
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  Speaker 2: there abound four or five, left around midnight. He said,
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  Speaker 2: call me tomorrow. You know, your daddy's awesome. Me go
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  Speaker 2: with my friend and just call me later. But he
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  Speaker 2: loves to talk. I did to get my dad to
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  Speaker 2: text because'd be on set. I'm like, Dad, I can't
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  Speaker 2: call you with this text. So the next day that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear from him, and no big deal. And
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  Speaker 2: then I get a call. I see it's my uncle
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  Speaker 2: calling me and he's like, come to the house. Something's
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  Speaker 2: wrong with your dad. And I'm like, what are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about? Something's wrong with my dad? Like that's just random.
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  Speaker 2: I just seen him I say, come to the house,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, Well, if he's not okay, I
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  Speaker 2: need to go to a hospital. He's like, just come
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  Speaker 2: to the house. They're not going to move him. What.
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  Speaker 2: And first thing I thought was, if somebody's sick, you
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  Speaker 2: got to move them. You gotta transport him. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: So he didn't say that, but I knew in my
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  Speaker 2: mind it's like, something's not right. I was on my
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  Speaker 2: way to a premiere with me and my mom and
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  Speaker 2: we literally diverted from the one thirty fourth Freeway and
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  Speaker 2: went to Compton and I and as soon as we
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  Speaker 2: pulled around the corner, I'm talking about cop cars, but
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  Speaker 2: people all in the streets. My dad was very popular.
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  Speaker 2: Just you know. My dad had a key to the
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  Speaker 2: city at Compton because he saved people out of a
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  Speaker 2: plane crash that crashed into his house in twenty probably
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  Speaker 2: twenty eleven, and he was on Ellen DeGeneres and got
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  Speaker 2: the key to the city for saving people at his house.
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  Speaker 2: So my dad was that dude, and I knew something.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I pulled around the corner and I
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  Speaker 2: was like what And my dad just had a sudden
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  Speaker 2: heart attack that morning. Wow. So again in my mind
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  Speaker 2: when I thought about that, I was like, of course devastated,
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  Speaker 2: but I was like that was meant to happen because
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  Speaker 2: my intuition told me to go see my father. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I did. Yeah, And having that peace was.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was gonna ask you, did it help you?
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  Speaker 2: Kind one thousand percent? And I never and honestly, like,
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  Speaker 2: knowing my dad and how vivacious he was, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to go into the house, like I knew, okay,
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  Speaker 2: if he had a sudden heart attack and if his
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  Speaker 2: wife had got home and it was all these hours later,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's final. I don't need to see that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People came and I stayed around the corner while I
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  Speaker 2: know the coroner came, and I was like, I was
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  Speaker 2: with my dad before. And I literally thank God to
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  Speaker 2: this day for knowing that I was with him the
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  Speaker 2: day before and following that gut intuition that I did
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  Speaker 2: because I was with him the night before.
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  Speaker 1: How did your mom respond to it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course they had been separated for so long,
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  Speaker 2: they've been separated, but my mom of course was there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, wow, it's like, I mean family at
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  Speaker 2: the same time. So Mom was there, I remember she
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  Speaker 2: stayed the night at my house that that that same night,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just like the process of thinking like
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  Speaker 2: I was just with him, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: that was God giving me that time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that.
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  Speaker 2: Was God giving me the final moment. So to this day,
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  Speaker 2: I'm grateful and even everything that I'm doing now, my
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  Speaker 2: daughter will always be bragging his friends. Oh my daughter's
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  Speaker 2: on TV. You gotta go watch my daughter. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I'm making my pops proud. He's writing Inglewood
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  Speaker 2: in a mausoleum. Any time on driving by Inglewood, I
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  Speaker 2: go right to the mausoleum, go talk to catch him up.
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  Speaker 2: Like his presence is literally with me, because I've had
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  Speaker 2: two people that had no idea about my dad's passing
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  Speaker 2: call me and say, somebody just like I don't even
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  Speaker 2: know mediums, like I don't do none of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And two friends I remember calling me one day when
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  Speaker 2: I was on FaceTime with them and they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you got to a little day, okay, And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you, Like, what are you talking about? Like tripping?
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  Speaker 2: And then like ten minutes later, my friends were like,
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  Speaker 2: so when you FACETI behind you was a black guy
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  Speaker 2: in a ball head in a blue suit. Oh, my
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  Speaker 2: dad's bal head and was buried in a blue suit.
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  Speaker 2: And I had just left the mausoleum that day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, I said, that's not scary,
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  Speaker 2: that's just my dad's presence.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then somebody else did it before that same day
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  Speaker 2: and said somebody would have ball head in a blue suit.
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  Speaker 2: Is telling me to tell you, I'm so proud of
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  Speaker 2: of you data, And I was like, she said it
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  Speaker 2: the same exactly. This woman has never met my dad nothing,
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  Speaker 2: she's a publicist and had no idea. So the closure
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  Speaker 2: that I had in a sense of knowing that even
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  Speaker 2: though my dad has gone from this earthly life, my
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  Speaker 2: dad is with me. So dating back to when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid and starting in all this journey, it's
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  Speaker 2: like you want to have your parents of course beside you,
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  Speaker 2: but sometimes it doesn't align like that. And my mom
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  Speaker 2: and dad had divorced, but my dad was still there
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  Speaker 2: watching me on TV, proud and supporting everything you know
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  Speaker 2: that I did. So it started when I was seven
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  Speaker 2: all the way up until the journey now. So it's
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  Speaker 2: no roses in prettyness over here. Every father's there. I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying Happy Father's Day to the men that are no
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  Speaker 2: longer here, you know, and the fathers that have have departed.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But it's a blessing because
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  Speaker 2: I had him in my life and I know he's around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so many things happened. I'm like, look at my dad
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  Speaker 2: just doing his duties, not a father, because he was protective.
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  Speaker 2: He was protected. He'd be like, you're trying to holler
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  Speaker 2: my daughter. Uh uh, Like he was that guy and
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  Speaker 2: from Compton. So this is LA's finest.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So this is official pigs in the blanket going.
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  Speaker 2: There's official pigs and a blanket. And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: So these biscuits were gonna obviously like expand. And the
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  Speaker 2: funny thing is that these business are all gonna be touching,
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  Speaker 2: which is fine. So we're gonna cut them and separate
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  Speaker 2: them so we can all have our own gift. Kids.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I had another biscuits because I got two
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  Speaker 2: more wieners. But it's fine, it's fine. We got the pig.
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  Speaker 2: Lit come on, now he's on in the blanket, So
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna stop process. I'm gonna put the
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  Speaker 2: time on put the time. I'm gonna put it about fifteen
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  Speaker 2: minutes timer. Let's see here, Okay, I got right now fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: Let's do fifteen minute count.
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  Speaker 1: Fifteen and then the package say eight. But you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, the package has twelve to fifteen. Ok but
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  Speaker 2: we gonna say twelve to fifteen. So no, I like
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  Speaker 2: it to go the max. So we can get that
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  Speaker 2: little Chris and I'm gonna look at I'm gonna keep
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  Speaker 2: my eye on it. Okay, we're gonna talk meat.
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  Speaker 1: So take go ahead and take me back to seven
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  Speaker 1: year old. You were gonna go all the way back
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  Speaker 1: to Friday. Okay, I didn't mean to take you off.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good, but it was. It's a fond memory.
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  Speaker 1: I love hearing that story that you got that moment. Now,
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  Speaker 1: so you and your mom, you're auditioning, you're doing all
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  Speaker 1: of this. You land the Friday movie? Yeah, single mom?
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  Speaker 1: Are you guys struggling?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? But landing the Friday movie in the sense of background.
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  Speaker 2: So background acting is how I started. So I didn't
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: come off the gate being principal. So when you have
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  Speaker 2: a background agency, they basically send you not even an audition,
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  Speaker 2: you don't book it technically. They to see you on
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  Speaker 2: a piece of paper and say we need little kids
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  Speaker 2: that you know are between seven and ten to be
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  Speaker 2: an ice cream scene. Oh that's literally what happened.
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  Speaker 1: So do you get paid for those?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you definitely get paid, but it's like your background,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not a ton. You might get forty something
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  Speaker 2: bucks a day, but you get your vouchers and that
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  Speaker 2: helps you get to sag later on. So I'm seven.
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  Speaker 2: If you remember the scene, Meghan good is right next
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  Speaker 2: to me at the ice cream truck. I remember that,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what we're standing side by side. I'm one
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  Speaker 2: of the little kids at ice Cube. You know, he's
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  Speaker 2: talking from the porch. But Chris Tucker comes up. He
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  Speaker 2: hitting kids, Get out the way, get up the way
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  Speaker 2: to get the big work. Oh I thought. I was
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  Speaker 2: like so bombed when he hit me upside the head
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  Speaker 2: like trying to get to the ice cream truck. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like dang, Like it was so funny and so
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  Speaker 2: cool because that was my first job and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I love this. I can get paid just to like
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  Speaker 2: hang out with some friends and be on camera.
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  Speaker 1: It was like immediate So was it your mom that
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  Speaker 1: kind of brought this acting idea to you or were
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  Speaker 1: you going to your mom like I think I want
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  Speaker 1: to pursue it.
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  Speaker 2: It was both. I was already like, I have video
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  Speaker 2: literally at three years old, I was in school plays.
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  Speaker 2: I have literally a video with three at the private
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  Speaker 2: school that I was at. The song called Daddy, You're
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  Speaker 2: My Hero in a play, so like, I literally was
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  Speaker 2: already starting.
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  Speaker 1: So she saw it and completely poured into it.
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  Speaker 2: At five YMCA, I'm singing I Miss You much Janet
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  Speaker 2: Jackson with a flashlight, two backup dancers that I had
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  Speaker 2: doing the running Man the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you were you were already invested already. So
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  Speaker 1: what does your mom doing to support y'all while you're
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  Speaker 1: on this journey.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my mom had a job. She worked at the
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: LA Unified School District, so she worked in busing and
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: then she was going for a promotion. The promotion didn't
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: work out, and then she was like, well, I can
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: go back to work, or I'll take you to auditions
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: and just figure out the process from here. And at
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's like, you need somebody
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: to take you to auditions because as a single. Mom,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: how you gonna get there? You can't drive? So my brother,
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: mind you, who's eighteen years like he's telling you older
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: than me. He's already in college. So I'm four or
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: five years old. My brother's at Washington State. And then
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: he had actually got drafted to like he played for
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: the Raiders, the Oilers, the Niners for a bit. So
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: my brother was gone. It was just me and mom's.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: So my aunt and my uncle were already doing a
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: lot of background work. So at that time it was like, okay,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: you might do one or two jobs a week. Yeah,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: you can take them to set, but a parent always
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: has to be there. So in between that process, my
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: mom was doing it. If my brother was in town,
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: he'd take me. And then I got an agency and
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: I booked three commercials like that. Really it took me
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: like six months to get my SAG vouchers.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: But now commercials is more money.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Hello, because at that point you got a join SAG.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: So when you're in the union, you get more money.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: So I went from making probably thirty forty a day
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: to where I made thousands at a time. I did
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: a tie commercial with Alberson's commercial and another one was
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: like this purple Moon like doll commercial.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: And at that age, they're putting in an account for you.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: So you have a Cougan account, so ten percent of
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: it goes to a Coogan account, which is literally.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Only ten percent. Yeah, oh I thought ninety then you
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: get ten percent.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: No, it's it's more of a percentage. But the parents
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: are the ones that actually get the full amount of money.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Oh so ten percent for sure is going to where
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: the kids are. You know, let's say they want to
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: go to college, and so later on they have that
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: little percentage, but that's still not enough. Being fully transparent,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: It's like when you think of a household. If a
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: parent is not working, if a parent is taking their
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: child's money to live in the household, you're not making
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: no money. Yeah, because I remember I had when I
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: looked later, I remember looking probably ten fifteen years ago.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: By the time I was eighteen, it's about five hundred
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: and some thousand dollars that I had made, but it
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: was only a couple thousand in any account.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Now what yeh?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Does that make you feel some type of way towards
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: your parents?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if I'm being transparent, yes, because
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like, at the end of the day, no
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: different than we've had parents. Like look at the Raven Simons,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: you got Kyla Prass. This is all people that I
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: grew up with, Megan, all of us. I knew their
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: parents had jobs, whether they had one parent or two,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: they were working. So I was not thinking in the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: process at the time. Okay, I'm supporting a household. Yeah,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: you didn't dawn on me till like I'm eighteen and
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, now I'm not moving out right away,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: but I'm paying for everything. And by the time I'm
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: ready to go go, which was still much later than
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: most people end up leaving home.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: You made all this money, but you still couldn't leave
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: because you.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Saying yes, I'm very I'm very much saying that because
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if someone is like,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: right now the business mind that I have now, so
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: many things would have been different. But I didn't know
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I was a kid. There's no way there should have
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: been a business that my mom set up.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you look at the Mary Kay to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Nashley Olson's man, the parents, the parents like whooped.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Of course they kicked asked with their investments or a
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: lot of times you see, even like the Raven simone
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like they had her father always saw with certain auditions.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Do I feel like I wish my mom would have
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: took the business mindset that a lot of other parents had. Absolutely,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: because I remember getting eaten up in taxes as a
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: kid when my mom should have had a company LLC
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: or escort or something.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, the money was going directly to you.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, But therefore, since she didn't work, I'm paying like
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not her dependent, she's technically mine. Yeah, so in
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: tax is mine, I'm getting eaten up in so many ways.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Where someone new business, it would have been different. Now
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: now I have two companies, two businesses, everything runs through
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: es Corps, and I pay personal taxes. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: well now it's like it's next level. But I didn't
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: know nothing.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Do you have yourself on payroll like a salary?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, depending you have to. Yeah, a lot of times
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you have yourself on salary because it's like I'm employing myself.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So even like right now on the shows that I have,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I am employing. My company is employing Porsche to come
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: to work. Yes, and that's how not only is it legal,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: but it's legit because people don't realize that LLCs they
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: stop and cap you at how much you can write off.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it also helps you too. And I talk about
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: this a lot, yeah on camera, but when you're going
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to buy real estate, you being an employee allows you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to leverage more versus if you're just an independent contract
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: care company.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Independent contractors don't get looked at as a good business
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: person to loan money to.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And then and then the banks also get look at
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you as higher risks because they're like, wait, how do
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: we know your business is even gonna be here.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: There's too many people that are entrepreneurs, too many people
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that are trying to trying to say it, because this
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: entertainment is full of people that are hoping to make it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if I'm a bank,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you five hundred thousand dollars
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: because you got a hope and a dream. I would
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: give you that money if I saw you had a
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: company and you're putting yourself on saling and your company
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: already gross this money and you're paying yourself a salary
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: of eighty or ninety k. It just looks different on paper.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So in hindsight, of course, everything that I see now
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I wish my mom had done. And there's a lot
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: of tension that it came from that once I let
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: her know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Like when did you let her know? Like what age
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Like? Oh, man, I got my license in sixteen. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: when I got my license, the first thing I said was, Okay, Mom,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I want you to transition from this standpoint of being
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: just my mom that's with me, to being maybe a CPA.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could be a business manager. Maybe you could
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: do this I'm talking about. I'm like, so big college,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: like your mom, not your ma mager, correct the ma major.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people take that standpoint. But
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: to me, if you're my manager, you bringing jobs to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the table.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like booking your own jobs. You're dealing
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: with my agent exactly she's doing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: She's dealing with the agents and calling them because obviously
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: that back then it was pages. Let me talk. I'll
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: tell my age is pagers. You get a page, come
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: to the office, you gotta leave, you got an audition,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Come because you have a meeting. So she's driving me everywhere.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: But at the point when I'm able to drive, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I got my diploma when I was sixteen, years old.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I was legally emancipated in sixteen. I graduated a year
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: emancipated in sixteen. So here's the thing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You divorced your mom.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. So let's clarify that, no, emancipation is
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in the system of schooling. You're technically legally listed as
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: an adult because when people are working on set, actors
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and kids can only work about like four to six hours. Yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So if I'm sixteen, but if I've already got my diploma,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that means they don't have to send me to schooling
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: on set, and if I've already legally fulfilled my obligation
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: in the school system, I can work twelve to fifteen
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: hours like an adult.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So you're saying emancipated in this That's what it means
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Emancipation is legally in the system of acting.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, because they have emancipation, Like I know in New York,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it's like where you you sever that time with your parents,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: they're no longer legally financially response.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's for sure. I've definitely seen a lot
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: of kids that are like going through adoption and they're like, hey, okay,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I want to mancipate for my parent. You know, in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the emancipation of acting world, it's just from the sense of, oh,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: you're graduating. Because I even remember the first time it
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: really counted was when I remember I was sixteen going
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: on seventeen and the Parkers audition came up, and I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: remember they wanted somebody like in their twenties. Yeah, so
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I was only seventeen. They didn't know that, but my
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: agent I was listed as an adult. By the time
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I got on set and was working with Monique and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: all them, they were like, how old are you? And
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I've already graduated. I drive myself to set. Wow,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I'm treated like an adult in the system. So therefore,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: companies want to work with the kids. Even if you
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: see a lot of movies back in the day when
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: we were watching Saved by the Bill, all the kids
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: weren't high schoolers. They're in their thirties for a reason. Yeah,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Power Rangers, all these different shows where you have kids,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the actors are of age, they just play younger.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Now, when Monique and those guys found out, like, hey,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: she's younger, did it cause a little bit.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: No, It was totally fun because me and count is
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: vond were not necessarily close in age, but we always
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: had to vibe. Me and ken Elle Countess Parker, like
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: even Monique. I walked on seting the first thing she
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: said was we need to get this bittion food. You
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: too scared? And I was like, here we go, Like no,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: it was a vibe. It was. It was so fun.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: But the fact that I already graduated early outside of emancipation.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I did all my credits that I needed, and I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: already was ahead of my courses and was smart. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I graduated literally a year early.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Did you now were you going to regular schooling or
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: were you doing private?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I went to Hollywood High School Performing Arts, right,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So you're busting.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: You really focused, you knew what you wanted to do.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I was a school I loved school and I loved working,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: So I went to school. I got all my credits,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, I wanted to be an actress,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: so I figured, if I can go to school finish early,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I can get out and go to set in full time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: So I got my diploma. Then I went to a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: home school and just took like calculus and just like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: some math classes to already be over yeah, like I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: already went over expectation what I needed to do because
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I was already I looked and as a junior, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: was like, wait, I could have graduated, like at the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: tenth grade. I know not I have so many credits
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: because you get more credits when you're on set. I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was like, I could have been out of school. So
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I checked out my junior year and I was like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to a whole school for two three months,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did because I end up getting
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a Disney movie and I was not even gonna be
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: home for my graduation.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So I remember going to another friend's prom and literally
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: celebrating my birthday in Salt Lake City on the set
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: of Pixel Perfect.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And I did it Disney with, which is big now
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: on Disney Plus people go watch it all the time.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They hit me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: So at sixteen, though, you're starting to say hey mama.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cause I'm driving, I'm doing my things. So I'm like, hey,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I don't need you in that capacity, so maybe try
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to shift into this lane. So it's also like trying
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to adult in a way, because you grow up fast
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: when you're in entertainment.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Mind youuly having a conversation like that with your parents.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like you need that, like because I know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like I'm very self sufficient so much in a way
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: where it's like it's scary where I'm like, I have
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: to let other people help me do things because I'm
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: so used to doing it myself. But at sixteen, I'm like, Okay,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I got my license, I already had a first car,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I got everything, so now let's try to transition into
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: this phase of what you can be for me. But
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: my mom is stuck on like, no, I gotta be there.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be with you and we're gonna be together.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm like okay. So it kind of kept going,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you know, for a while, and I'm like, Okay, the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: transition has to happen because why am I going to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: pay another person to do what I'd rather pay my
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: mom to do. Because if you look at a lot
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: of people that are celebrities, they hire like Jamie. One
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: of my good friends, Jamie Fox, love him so much.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: His sister is his stylist, His best friend is his
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: wardrobe stylist. His sister does his heir, He keeps his
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: stuff in the family, and I love that because you
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: trust your family, So it's like you want to do that,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, if they're not capable of
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: doing it, I'm also not going to be putting myself
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in a position to not have you doing the proper
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: job when you need to go get get training. If
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be my CPA, I need you to study business.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: If you're going to be my manager, I need you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to go study on how to talk to these agencies.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: No, so what is her capacity right now?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: To you? Oh that's interesting. Just look at the ball,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Look at the biscuit.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: It looks so good.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Come on, you think I'm playing.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get out of this question.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get out the question. The capacity right
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: now currently.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: We probably have to stop that big bad the audio
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: is gonna they're gonna.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, okay, so let's let's stop the I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: got it, I got you. Look how fire it looked though.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: It looks good. I'm hungry too.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Oh man, are they getting this because y'all see my biscuits?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: No to see it right here? Okay?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what, It just reminded me to do
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: my job.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Come on, it's okay. Oh brow look at the pigs
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in the blanket. Wow, the pigs are in the blanket.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And that's why I told you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Now, why do you use the biscuits? Did you answer
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: me before? Why you use the biscuit and not the.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The crsuns are too flaky? Oh really yeah, so crssants
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: are too flaky. So therefore I love flaky. But the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: things that they're going to fall apart if you're cooking
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: them too long when you're cooking also the winner. So
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that's the only thing I love flaky. But these biscuits
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: also have a little bit of on tool. So that's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: why I told you I needed the butter, because see,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: look when you put the.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Butter, it is curious.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It is it is for sure. I remember we turned
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it back on. So see you got to get the boy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: She turned it back on. When she came back in,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you turned it back on. It's all okay, cool, it's sorry,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it's okay.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: It looks so good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It's delicious. I'm telling you when you get the little biscuits.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: So your your mom, yes, is she at the is
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: she at mom capacity or is she at I'm doing something?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I want her to be at mom capacity. But I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: think if we're just being transparent, because a lot of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: people go through this, you know, in the ship and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: dynamic when it comes to their kids. Sometimes growing up,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I had to choose myself over what my mom was
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: kind of stuck on because I think at the point
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: when someone gets angry with you because they're not around
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: in a capacity that they want, when you're telling them
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: what you need, it can get a little toxic. Yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So I kept telling her what I needed and what
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was important, and for her it would go over her head.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: She didn't care. So I had to kind of put
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: this position of like, Mom, these people are going to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: be helping me do it. You at any point can
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: kick in when you want to. But if that's not
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: going to happen, unfortunately, we're going to have to to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: cause a separation in this relationship.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And then at this point is she working other jobs.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited about it.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: So it's so good. That's why I'm buttering it. That's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: why I'm doing it, girl, Venus, That's why I'm doing
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm getting you to your biscuits. I'm preparing your biscuits.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I think I would hope that she's of course, you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you know proud, which I think it's that dynamic, but
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: at the same time, it's almost proud of you. They
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: would reach out to you too.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Are you guys not talking?
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: No?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Ah, dang no.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And again I feel like it's only a matter of time.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: But here goes back to but.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: How long have you guys not been talking? Is it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like a bad month?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: It's been No, it's been longer than a month. It's
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: been longer than a month. And I'm only saying this
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: from the standpoint because I think the power of healing
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: is what people need to no one understand. And choosing
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: yourself because sometimes parents' job, I think, is to raise
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: their children to be able to fly off.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And yes, I have this discussion with my husband all
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the time, like I think our responsibilities to kind of belity.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And your kids to leave you because at the end
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of the day, you're not going to be around forever
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: and your kids have to be okay without you. I've
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: been so self sufficient for so long, but I realize
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: doing that, I enabled my mother to be self sufficient.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Well, that was going to be one of my questions
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: because it seems like you were very self sufficient book, Yeah,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't your mom who had a role to play. Where
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: did this independence come from?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I think the independence came well in a way,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: technically from my mom too. If my mom's a single mother,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you grow up watching someone do it all alone, right, Yeah,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: So technically in a way that helped me. See like, okay,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I could do things on my own because of course
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I'm young. It's not like I have a man or
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: need something. I had managers, I had agents, I had
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: people in my life that were there. But when it
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: came time to do business, when I was like, wait
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a minute, y'all, look at this though, Look at you.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I told you that I'm talking about pigs in a blanket.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Grab one. So I'm telling you grab one, take it
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and put your little ketchup and your little mustard on
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the plate. Butter and the butter, popp and that's that's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: what they need. The butter. You gotta get the butter.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: That's why I put a little extra on there. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I love butter. That's what I'm saying. You gotta get
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the butter on a bit.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Put that. If you want a little Dejon too, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: usually just do ketchup and shake up the ketchup because
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you don't like it to be you know, the watering
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: paratly gonna come out first.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long have you and your mom not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: been talking?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's been a second. I think it's been.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I look back and the last
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: sext message was November or something like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But even before Sisters is out and you didn't get it. Congratulations. No,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: but damn that sucks. I mean sorry, no, no, no,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you know, you know kids, you're thinking about it in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the back of your mind.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: We're talking honestly, we're talking honestly. My thing is that
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I wish that people and this is what anybody And
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that's when I had to separate the difference between you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: might need to cut into it. If not, just take
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a bite. Let let's take our first bide. Do you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: want to do it?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Want to do it?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Dip it in? Take a bile? Right right? How we
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: like him?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Go to now?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: How are we liking him? Make sure you get the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: winger and they're.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Doing I'm gonna eat this whole thing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you she likes it, y'all. First of all,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: she killed her biscuit and her pig and a blanket,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: so I almost say this is a hit.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It's a definite head noah, you know, I will definitely
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: go home and do this for my time, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: for your kids.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Like we're making pigs in a blanket today, So you
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: want the more christal. You don't have to put as
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: much butter. But I like the butter because it just
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: seeps it in, right, mm hmm, so good.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: This is brilliant, easy, and it's brilliant right to the point.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Then it's take less than five bucks.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Five dollars. Get you some biscuits. Pop them open, put
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: them in a blanket. And that's why you see I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: rolled them like that so they stay tight. So even
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: though it looked like they were mushed, when as soon
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: as the biscuit expands, it still keeps it. So you
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: see the winder on the outside here.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about the way you did the
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: hot do say?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Listen, I was fine with the hot dogs, Like I said,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I usually cook them before, but the hot dogs are
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: already Like, it's fine, the hot dogs are cooked. That's
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: why I wanted you at least a good fifteen life.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So good, I hold up tearing it up. This is
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: my hope and this is what my thoughts.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Well, this is a contribution of your mom. R.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: This is a contribution because she used to do pigs
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in a banket for me, I think for me where
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I think the separation, of course even started more after
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: me kind of begging and even saying like, hey, ten
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, we need to help our relationship
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: go to the next level because I'm not a parent,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: but I feel like, as a parent, you should transition
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: from this is my child, this is my young adult,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: this is my adult. Now we're friends in a capacity.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I'm still the mother, But how do you need me
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to be there for you?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: The guiter from like the.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. It's like, if I'm self sufficient
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: in my business, all I need you to do is
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: just be a mom and be my.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Parent in that way, like listening and just and.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Being that person not combative or not.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But also a cheerleader too, like the boy Sisters is
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: out like cheerleading.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great. My mom was always the cheerleader.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: But I would notice that when I'm trying to work
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: on the depth of our relationship, she was more focused on, Okay,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: there's a red carpet, Okay, there's something we can go
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to here, And it was distracting from me because I'm like, listen,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I'm your daughter first and foremost before i'm a celebrity
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: on the red carpet. Yeah, And I had to start
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: choosing to notice the boundaries and where no, you're not
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: going to reap the benefits without doing the work. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I'm the type of person who I'm like, I want
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: to do the work. And that's where it kind of
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: got tricky when I was like, Okay, you're not going
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: to come to this event, You're not going to come
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: to that, Well, what's the problem, Because I told you
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the problem. We got to work on our relationship and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: choosing to not want to do that and not wanting
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: to heal and wanting to just.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Has she ever done counseling? And I'm sorry, I.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Remember one time it was Yeah, I've offered over and over.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I sent the therapies, I sent all of that, just
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: trying to say, this is what we need to be
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: because I'm willing to be transparent, but I have things
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that I want to talk about as a child that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I feel that this is what would help our mommy
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: daughter relationship but also the business side. But you need
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: to learn how to separate the two. And that's why
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you see a lot of kids that are suing parents
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: because their parents didn't necessarily know how to separate that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: same thing. So do I feel we can get back
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: on track? Yes? But am I in a space right
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: now where I'm like I did all I could, knowing
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: that I put it out there regarding Mom, this is
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: where I'm at, this is what needs to happen for us,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and let's go have someone else come in. And I
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: think it's someone with that generation too. My mom is
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: seventy five. God bust the people that are at the
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: generation prior, you know, or two generations prior, because she
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: had me at thirty five, so there is a big
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: age gap there. So a lot of the beliefs are
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: like therapy, why would you do that?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I noticed that with the I feel like
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: with that age, not trying to hate on that age
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: where not.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I do see that with even peers like they're stubborn, They're.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Hella stubborn and they're hella. What is it like defensive?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: It's like almost like.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Defense mechanism, Like crazy, if I can say, hey Mom,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: this is what I need, can we do this? What
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: about you and I'm like, wait, I'm just having a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: conversation about hot.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: The defensiveness is the tricky part, and I think as
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: their child who loves them, and you're like, man, after
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a while, it's like I don't even want to address
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: these things because it could set off a nuclear bomb
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: and that's where the break ends up in the sea.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So many parents, I realize, have that sort of mindset,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: but in that age bracket, it's so crazy, and kids
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that are my age, there are so many people, like
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I said, because I haven't even talked about this and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: like even like put it out there like that only
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a couple close friends know. There's so many people that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I know that had to separate from their parent because
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: of the healing that needed to be done, that the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: parent was either choosing to try to live their life
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: for them and be this is how you need to live,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: this is how you need to do that. And it's like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: at what point do you say, this is not your life.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I thank you for having me, but now my life
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: has to be lived. I want you to support and
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: be there for me, like I should be there for you,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But why do I have to be just dictated to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and when I have something to say you don't want
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: to hear it.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I also think it creates some kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of trauma because I now talk to I'm not gonna
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: say who it is, but they felt like, you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: they just kind of got to the point where it's like,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: my mom loves me, but she just doesn't like me.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: And I was like, because that's what happens, though, if
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: your parent continually shuts you down, you're just like, you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: know what, I know this person would take a bullet
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: for me, but they just don't like me. And I've
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: accepted it, so I no longer come to them with
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: either something amazing or I don't come to them when
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I'm in a hard That's true because I just feel
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like this person that I love so much is that
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I know loves me but just doesn't like me. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like it creates a trauma.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: That creates a trauma. And I had to look back
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: when I thought of like when you think of your
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: first your first car, your first apartment, your force wins.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, my mom hated
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: on all those see I hate that, Like I'm just
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: giving me even more transparent. I was proposed to and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the guy went to my brother to ask him. Was like, hey,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: don't tell her mom. You know, I'm just coming to
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you because I know her father's not here. And my
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: mom had the nerve to literally tell me the night before, no,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I'm no had I had no idea that sun And
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, wait, First of all, my brother knew,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: so I me and my brother disobeyed and went to
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: go tell moms. Moms held it for months and I
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, me and my guy are going
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: on the trip. Oh, we're going on the trip overseas
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: or something like that. You know he's gonna propose you right, Well,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: what you think?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, did she say like, you
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: know he's probably no.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: No, you know he's gonna you know he's gonna propose you. Yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he already reached out to your brother and he already
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: asked for your head. Oh oh oh oh, oh oh oh.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about all of that. My first apartment I remember,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna just say this too, because again we talking,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: we even while broke when we're talking about it. I
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: didn't move out, so I was like third thirty really,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: but again it was at my place, but my mom
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: was living with me, but I was like, it's time
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: for us to separate and go.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Wait. Hated it when you say your mom. So it
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: was like, was it like her place you paying the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: bills or you're.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was thirteen, we moved. I'm on the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: lease at thirteen years old. I'm on the lease. You're
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: on the lease because we move in together. But the
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: place that we got, my friend is the one who
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: gave it to us, like it was a it was
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a nice apartment complex, two bedroom, two bathroom, Like I'm
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: on the least. The reason why I'm saying if it's
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: my place is because if I'm seven making checks and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: then i'm thirteen, forteen to fifty, all the way I'm paying.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying the rent.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: So it's like and I wasn't tripping, mind you. Me
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and my mom had a good relationship, but I started
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: noticing the more that I started trying to be independent,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the more it's like, you can't do that. Why are
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you doing that? You shouldn't be doing that, And I'm like,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: that's weird. Like getting a car is a big deal.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: You didn't like that getting.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Now you got the car yourself.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay of course I got the car myself.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: But then I don't know if she like set it
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: up in a way where it felt like it was
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: coming from her, or was it just very open, like no,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it never came.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: No, it never came from her. I got a car
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: on my own. I went to a lot and was like, oh, okay,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I want to go get a car. So I called
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: my friend and was like, Hey, what are they about
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: this car? It's like literally like this this mind you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It was already a used car, but it was still
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: on a couple thousand miles. I'm like, this is a
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: great steal, and I'm like, I don't know how my
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: mom's gonna take it. I started realizing, like you started
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: realizing early. I started having a watch things that I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: was sharing. I'm like, Dan, that's not fair to me.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You have to watch what I have to say.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That kind of goes back to what I'm saying where
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: you kind of set that tone of the trauma, that the.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Tone of your trauma, so your defense mechanism is stronger
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: than it even should be.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Your survival and that goes back also why you were
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: so independent.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, mantimes, it's not a good thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Dependent. Yeah, you're independent, came from lack.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Of Sometimes your independence comes from the mentality of I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: gotta do this because I have to to fight for
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: myself and my own right to speak up if I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a kid supposed to grow up and be happy and
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: supported in that regard. But I'm being tugged like, no,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you can't do that, No you shouldn't do this. No, no, no,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not a no person. I'm always
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: gonna think something is going to be the grass of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the greeners other side, the glass is half full, not
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: half empty. But someone is pulling at you. You're like, now,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: is it them that has a problem with what you're
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: doing or are you just not being allowed to flow?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: You can see it. You can see it. Even when
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: you tell the story, it's like, I won't think about
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: this car. Instead of calling your mom, You're like, I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: calling the friend. And then I'm still concerned on how
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: she gonna take the news.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm still concerned, and even at the point when I'm.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: So, when you go home with the car, how does
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: she handle it?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I didn't even go home with
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the car, the car that she was already driving was
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: a car that again that I got through a business
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: dal and we had from a friend. I called her
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and like, oh, hey, come take a look at it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I called her to the location, had her show up.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: My friend is already there. She's there, and I'm like,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: guess what this is. I'm gonna get this car. But
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: why we already got a car. I'm like, we have
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: one car. We need two cars.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: So if you're had a license, mom, let's I need
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: my my.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That's just that makes control because if you have one car,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: you can't go without me going, yeah, you can't go
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: unless I tell you. So. Again, it was that control factor,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: so kind of like being a child actor and wanting
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: to flourish do that but someone is not letting you
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: do that. It creates a power struggle.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeh.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And at some point you have to realize, Okay, if
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you my first car moment, the first apartment moment,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Like I moved out and my mom didn't talk to
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: me for a whole year and I paid her rent
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: in mind didn't.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Talk that whole year, entire year.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot, and I'm like, I'm not supposed
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to be paying your.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Now is there a part of you that were hoping
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to like, maybe at some point she'll go, man, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: have a good daughter, and I'll just you know, I'm
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just saying that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: At some point I was like, that should kick in.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: But what I did was and I said, Mom, you
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: need to go take your chances and do this career
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: as well, because I feel that's what you want. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: feel you want to go act. So I got my
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: mom with my agency. My mom booked a stand in
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: role for Sisily Tyson and got her vouchers like this.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking saying the first thing I say is like, Okay,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I used to do background work. I don't want my
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: mom in seventy I can do that. I paid thirty
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: four hundred for her to get her SAD card.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So you're like, yeah, but I so, I think that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: was an interesting plot twist right there to say maybe
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you want to do this too. It sounds like the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: daughter is the mom and the mom is the daughter.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: That's what started happening, and I'm like, okay, I can
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: take that role, but I shouldn't have to take that role.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So I me giving and providing in that kind of way.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: I kept feeling like I was getting shut out. In
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: so many different ways shut out by it. It's like,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: but you should be happy for my wins. Why is
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it not this support factor that I should be having
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: from you. So let me let you do it so
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: you don't feel like you're missing out on something. I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: go do that during COVID, and then it's still like
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting phone calls, you're not talking to me,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: you're still not trying to go to therapy. It got
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, well, I'm not
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: paying a phone bill no more. You're gonna have yours,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: gonna have mine. Period. If you're not calling texting me,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: we're not gonna be talking unless you call me directly
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: on my phone line that I paid for, You're gonna
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: pay for your own. So I just had to start
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: pulling away from certain things.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: How did.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Anger Yeah, of course again, if someone's.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: At this point it's now it's entitlement, I would imagine.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's entitlement, but also like, you're supposed
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: to take care of me, You're supposed to do this,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to do that. I'm like, I didn't know
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: that was the role of your children is to just
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: take care of their parent, not if their parent is
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: not sick, not their parent is not unable to do stuff.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Now is she working at all during any of this?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: My mom is like she did a job in fashion,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: which I remember my brother got her. She worked at
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a fashion designers. But we were Me and my brother
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: were always providing for my mother. She did little things
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: here and there, but it was never anything full time.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Because when your brother was you said, like right after
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: eighteen he started going.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: My brother was gone out of college. But my brother
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: did well. He was in real estate. He was I mean,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that's when real estate was kicking all before the crash.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: He had money. He'd be like, y'all run his five
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: six hundred dollars, do it. Because we were under rent control.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: This was twenty five years ago. Rent was cheaper then. Yeah,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: so we were always in control of that. But we
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: both always were trying to find ways for my mom
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: to Yeah, Mom, you can't leatch you all on to
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: my brother. No more, you can't let youall to me.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Let's get your own independent. So my mom, that's her
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: unhealing self in her situation where she doesn't want to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: let go of her daught her because she's afraid of
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: what that looks like for her and I.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Had and then me and her identity could be wrapped
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: up in it two.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Right, one thousand percent. Everything was Porsch, Porsch Porsche. And
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I realized, my mom doesn't mean any harm, but she
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: has to understand that, Mom, you have to have your
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: own identity. Yeah. You need to walk in the room
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and say I'm this person, yeah, not Porsha's mom.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: And that's where I started having to realize we do
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: need our own identities, because I'm like, I need to
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: have you realize this fairly early.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Too early, I think another thing that must have been
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: tough to accept this. And I learned this very late
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: in life. I would say, like thirty six, around that
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: age where I was like, there's there's a I like
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: to put people on and I no longer want to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: change people. I put them in their proper categories. So
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, if you are, I have friends that are
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: like ride or Die, that are like happy for me
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: when I'm up, kill anybody when I'm down. We'll be
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: sitting Girl will fly in, watch Pretty Women Get the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Rocky Road, and We're gonna sit and watch these movies
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: while we go through this breakup. And then when you win,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: they over the moon like they want the lottery. But
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: then you have another You got another side, which is
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I'm down for you when you're down, but I'm not
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: excited when you're up. And that one, I think is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the hardest one to understand, because you know this person
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: is down for you and they would kill for you,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: but they just not happy when you're up. And that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: one of those things where you're kind of put into
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the position of dimming your light to make someone else.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Come, to make someone else comfortable. And I love what
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you said about putting people in categories and letting people
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: be who they are. I think the healing for me
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: happened even not even a couple of years ago, when
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I realized my mother who is who she is, my
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: brother is who he is, I am who I am.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Just because you come from your parents doesn't mean that
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you are supposed to spend the rest of your lives
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: under them and being best friends. And I think that
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: is what I had to realize, is that my mom
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: is who she's gonna be. My mom has been this
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: way since for seventy five years. Yeah, I can't change her.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I can love her from a distance. But I can
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: also choose my piece and knowing what I need out
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: of this relationship is you to be mother, not the
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: lady who wants to come to the red carpets. Not
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: the lady that wants to come and oh look at me,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Like I got tired of that because I would go
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: places and I would hear the conversations not about my daughter.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: My daughter's doing this, but guess what I used to
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: be doing this and this is what I used to do.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And guess what. You can catch me on this background
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: show doing that and I'm like, but if you're here
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: for me, that should be your focus and you're happy
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: doing that for me. If I'm coming into your space,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and make the moment about well, yeah,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: her show cool, but see but guess what, but guess
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: what this is? And then you know you got those
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: kind of friends, like you said, that are happy for you,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: but that are also get away competing with you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's one of the most painful things
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you can that you could actually learn because for a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: multitude of reasons. Yeah, but past that, I think the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: difficulty with being someone's child and I only know this
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I have a daughter I don't I have a daughter.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I have a daughter. It's so new to me. It's
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: weird because I feel me and my husband both try
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: to do whatever what happened to us. We want to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: do everything in our power to not do it to her.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And what I noticed with myself and I think with
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: other people, is like you have this like unreal amount
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: of I just want to know my parent loves me, right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And I think when you're facing those positions of you know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: are they envious, is their jealousy or are they happy
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: for me? Or are they not? Like I know they
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: love me clearly, they got me to where I'm at,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: they fall for me. That that question, how do you
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: navigate or do you ever navigate that question of like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: is this real love? Especially when they can go a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: long time without calling.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody loves different. For one, let's just say,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: like you said, you and your husband are trying not
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to do maybe what your parents did to you because
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: you want a different whether it's a different life, a
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: different outlook. You know, you go through things and you're like, Okay,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I want to prevent somebody else from doing it. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: also when people do that, they can stop their kids
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: from really living or experiencing certain things. So my mom
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: is that person like, wait, no, no, don't do that,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: because don't do that, And it's like, but I need
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: to experience this. If I'm trying to be let's be real,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Tyler Perry is a billionaire. If I want to be rich,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: if I want to be in rooms where I'm walking
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: in and getting respected, I'm gonna talk to Tyler. I'm
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna go to my mom. No, I'm not gonna
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: go here to the homegirl. And if you have to
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: be around the people that you're trying to be, like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: if you want to do better, you have to put
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: yourself around people that are gonna help you get to
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that level. So I think she started thinking that something
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: was disrespectful when I started saying, you can't be my
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: plus one today because I'm gonna have my publicis coming
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: because I need that next job. My agent's gonna come
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: because they can talk to the producer and talk about
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: giving me my next job.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And yeah, if you went to school and got the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: training or whatever, you started mastered, but.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Don't take it personally. I'm taking somebody else like you
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: think it's a slight to you, Like I don't like
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you like it has nothing to do with not liking you.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I need that next gig because everybody knows actors can
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: sit here all day long and talk, oh, look at
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the flash yourself offline, But everybody a lot of times
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: is check to check in this business. When it comes
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: to that one job that hits, it may be six
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: months and you have nothing. So you got to sustain
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: yourself in between that. So if I'm gonna be at premiere,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: if I'm at a red carpet, I need to be
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: with somebody that can walk up to a producer and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: be like, hey, this is my talent Portia Coleman. You
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: can see her on this and this and that. Let's talk.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about you getting her in your next project. Yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I need that. Or just my mom coming to hang
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: out and just smile at people and there's no disrespect
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to her. I know what she likes, and I realized
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: that's what she's happy doing. But I realized that it
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: was costing me financially by just bringing her as a
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: guest to hang out versus somebody that could read.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: You need to maximize this.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: You got to maximize the time because this window can
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: be so fast and so quick. So I think it
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: was a.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Good business move, good business, and it's not to take personally.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Nothing but speaking of good business moves, hello, let's go
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: closer to some of the bigger, bigger, big biggest. Come
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: on now, biggest move. Let's get close to your newest
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: BT plus with Tyler Perry. I want to know how
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: wind where? How did it all come about. I've had
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a couple people on the show that have worked with
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Tyler ive heard nothing but rave reviews and surprising paychecks
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that lives. Hello, it's not on the thing. He likes
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to just surprise people with paychecks at yeah point, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: know that story you're talking about too.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: You do which one the one story where he surprised
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: people with bonuses? Oh? He was s well, I know
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a couple of stories.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I know we haven't released this one. But the guy,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: this particular actor had said, well, I guess by the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: time your episode, but he had said that, you know,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: he went in at a five thousand dollars pay rate.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Wow, and it.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Was like the lowest he had ever made whatever mm hmm.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, damn, he's gonna in my head,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, he's going to edit this out. He's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: definitely going to edit it out, and he didn't you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: know why, because his surprise was that Tyler Perry ended
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: up giving him six figures at the end.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Come on, and I was like, dang, listen, I think
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: for sure that shows what dedication looks like. Because I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: love my career so much. I've only been singing, acting,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: dancing since the day I was born and came out.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I would do this for free because I love it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I love that I would do it for free. So
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: to know that I can look and cut a check
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and be like what officer all I could do for free?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: To work like ten hustles is a beautiful thing. And
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I can honestly say I've never had a nine to five.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I've never clocked in a job. I've never done that.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I sing, I act, I dance, I host, I do voiceovers,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: video going and I've been working a whole life. And
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: that's again, I'm not gonna say that's a trauma response.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That's just me. I learned that I love to do
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: what I do. I don't drink, I don't smoke. I'm
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm out here. Yeah, So I love what I do.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: But when you cross pass with someone like a Tyler Perry.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: If I can look at your story from sleeping in
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: your car to get in your play, to getting your
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: play financed, to get in your play on tour, to
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: where now you have a network who gives you astronomical
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: amounts to put our people in position to be starring
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: on shows when twenty years ago there was not really
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: all black lead shows. You had the Cosby's, then you
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: started remember when UPN popped up? Do y'all really remember UPN?
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: That's when The Parkers was on, but you got one
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: on one the Parkers school Boys in Outer Space, Moesha,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: We at one point did not have all black lead
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: shows by other period. Right now is literally doing something incredible,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Like he said to the BT was we're all sitting
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: there watching he said, I have made more millionaires black
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: millionaires on TV than anybody. Because he's right. If you're
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: gonna sit there and take a five thousand dollar check
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: knowing that you've gotten paid more, but you're willing to
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: come to work and bust your ass, Tyler is gonna
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: bless you and do that. Because I remember just thinking
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: like I've never auditioned for Tyler, I'd never been in
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: front of him. I was like, dang, if I get
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: that opportunity, I just hope it's it. The first time
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I was in front of Tyler Perry, I got it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Tell me about it, tell me how you got this.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: It's I'm me a whole backstory.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, it's fast. If anybody knows about
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: self tapes twenty twenty COVID, everything shuts down, so nobody's
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: really in rooms anymore. So they say, hey, here's the audition,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: here's a size, put yourself on tape, find a reader.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Mind you got to find a reader, set your camera up,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: set your lighting up, and do all of this stuff
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: by yourself in your house. Okay, So mind you. It
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: gets overwhelming a lot of times because you got to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: find people that's available to do that when you got
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: an audition in twenty four hours self taped. Remember Clearsday,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I got to shout my girl out. I love her
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: to death. Doctor Schammel Bell very accomplished. She helped start
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter movement. She used to be a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: she said doctor. She does everything. But she was out
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and about in LA. I said, girl, you got a
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: second can you come cel tape for me? And she
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, sure, whatever you need. I got the
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: audition for Tiffany. So if you guys watching the show,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: the girl Tiffany has the big curly the real name
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: is our girl Brianna, and I auditioned for that. I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: put it on tape. Forty eight hours later, my agent
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: called and was like, hey, you got a call back
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh great. They say they're gonna
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: send us the details and I'm like, oh, mind you.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking Tyler's in Atlanta because I sell tape.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And Tyler Perry.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it clearly said. The reason why I knew
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: is because it clearly came out as Divorced Sisters. Mind you,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bt. Plus, I watched Sisters. They're nine seasons
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: in Divorce Sisters. I'm like, not a new franchise. Oh
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: So I told my agent, push for this. I said,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I know the casting director shout out to Kim Coleman,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: love you too. I called her like cousins. We have
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the same last name. I said, please push for this
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: because I think I'd be great for this and this
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: is the role of Tiffany. Go in. Send the cell tape.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Two days later, Tyler Perry's going to be at the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: audition nine in the morning off a sunset boulevard. I'm like,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I'm waking up at six in the morning. This this
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: is doing no, this was this was at the top
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: of the year. Right now we're only in July. We've
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: shot this show in March.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you send in yourself.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about during COVID is when they don't
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: go an audition way. So that's why when you said
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the process that the process wasn't seeing Tyler first. It
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: was me putting my cameras, my lightnings up, looking at
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: the scene and reading with my friend off camera and
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: just sending in and hoping I get a call. Forty
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: eight hours later, I got that call. H Tyler Perry's
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: going to be at the space off a sunset in person,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, so mind job. I'm like, okay, I
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: already got my size memorized what to expect. I'm like,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: let's go walk in the room. There's like one hundred
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: people in the waiting room.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you feel in those moments?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: And that's what actors again, you know, you walk in
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: the room and you're like, oh, back to these days
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: when you're seeing every girl in the room, I'm seeing guys.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know who's audition for this part,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: but you have to tune it out.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the girl. You guys ever become buddies in
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: those scenarios.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Oh No. When I walked in, I literally saw four
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: girls I knew. Okay, I knew him. I was like, oh,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: this is the girl. I played a sister with her
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: on a movie. I knew my homegirl from Bee Valley.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I knew people in the room, but at that point, honestly,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: just with me, it's like, you're not friends in that moment. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: because I can walk up to you, but ha's your mom?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: How's all this? We got a job to do. So
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the first thing I do is I went to sign
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: in make sure they knew I was there. I went
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: out to the hallway and I literally was in the
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: elevator because I'm like the chatter sometimes people like you
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: talk in all the rooms. I need to be trying
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: to focus. I'm trying to be focused. I'm like, I
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: got an audition to be with Tyler Perry in front
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: of a series regular. I need to be focused. So
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I remember being a hallway. It was like nine o'clock,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: nine thirty. They said, oh, portion, you're on deck, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm on deck.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Wait before you get into there. When you say focused, now,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: is that when you do? I mean I see a
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: lot of actors do this or like the bigger ones
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: than be like I was in that whole role during
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the whole taping.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, that's one by the time
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: you get it. But I'm talking about the time when
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: you're in the audition room. You gotta book it before
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: you can get to set. I'm not thinking about working
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: on set. I'm thinking Tyler Perrent.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're doing that focus, are you in
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: yeahfter or are you just memorizing my line?
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: My mind? What I do and this is a hack
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: for me, I put my ear pods in, okay, and
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I play music because again, if someone's in the hallway
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: talking and right now, if I'm trying to study, to
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: go knock out this scene where I got to mind
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: you the scene is eight pages. Eight page is long?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: You got to memorize in front of Tyler Perry. I
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear old girl talking about Oh my god,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: girl so good to see you. Guess, well, how's your
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that air pods are in.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I'm down the hallway by the elevator, so I don't
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: got to hear that. That's my process. So by the
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: time they said you're on deck, I'm like, okay, I
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: gotta come close, gotta come close. Take out the ear pods,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: put it in, put my purse to aside, be like, okay,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: go on in the room. Go on in the room.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I see like five people in their cameras. Tyler's right there.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about you. He's right at the head of
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the table. His head is down. He's not even looking
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: at me though, and I'm like, okay, I walk in.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: His head is down, he looks up. He says, okay,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: you ready, all right, let's go. That was it, and
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, mind you no conversation. What's
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: your name? I'm like, okay, cool. He wanted to go
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: right into it. We go write into it. Next thing
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I started delivering the scene. Okay, thirty second
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: ten he does this like stop and I'm like, oh shit, girl,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: exactly what I said. Oh shit. He was like, thank you,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: thank you. He said that was really good, by the way,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: but I need to read for the role in Naomi.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh okay. He was like yeah, so
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: they'll give you the sides outside and just come back
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: in the room once you've taken a look at it.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, wait a minute, so you
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: have like less than a couple of minutes to what I.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Was like, Yes, at that point, it's cold reading because
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: mind you, I already had the other scene for over
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: a week. I had a chance to look at it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I knew it. They handed me some new scenes, a
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: whole new character, and I'm like, what's her backstory? Wait?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: New scenes, so I'm a whole different person.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, you couldn't use the scenes, that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Know, because the scene that I auditioned for is Tiffany.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Naomi was not in Jesus, I'm looking at this and
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: this is one acting Yet when your bag kicks in,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: when I'm my training since seven, eight, nine, ten kicks in,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: you gotta look at a scene and deliver it like
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you are this person in this scenario right in that moment.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: So first thing they come out and say, as I said,
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: who's Naomi? Who is she? Well, she's got thirty seven
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: million dollars, she just got divorced from her ex husband.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: She hates him, and now she's mad that her her
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: lawyer homegirl, is not helping her sue him. That's all
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: he said to me. And I was like, okay, okay.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: So the first scene that you see that I walk
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: in on scene one is a scene that I auditioned
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: that where I'm standing by the car, like, what's up?
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Did you look at this lawsuit? What's going on? Yeah?
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: And I remember after all of that fifteen twenty minutes
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: walking back in the room and he said the same thing. Okay,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: you ready, Like it was no conversation, mind you. I
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: have a great memory. So what I usually do is
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: when I looked at it, I said, I'll be damn
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: if I'm being in front of Tyler Perry glued to
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: the sides. Hell no, ma'am. I said, I'm gonna look
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: at it. I'm gonna know some calling responses, but he
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of ad lib and just me
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: feeling this carriage, okay, had to still respect that game.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Rolled it up, and he was right to the side
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: of me soon as it started. She's supposed to be
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: hot that her lawyer's out there. So I said, what's up.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: You talk to your lawyer, Geneva, what is going on?
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Tell me? No, hi the baby. She's like, the baby's
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: right here. I'm like, I don't care, Hey, baby, what's
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: up with my lawsuit? Like, and I'm seeing Tyler and
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: other people in the room like locked in, but I'm
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: tuning it out because I'm not looking at none of
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the side. I'm just delivering it. After it was over,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Tyler was like that was amazing. He's like, yeah, wait
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: in the lobby said don't go anywhere. And I was
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: like okay, And I was like and I just went
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: for it. And I was like, holy yeah, Like that
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: was yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: And what are you thinking when he's like waiting the lobby?
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: I want to know what is your emotions?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing. The reason why I'm okay with
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: that is because by this point, it went from a
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: hundred people in the lobby to twenty five. Okay, so
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: the lobby was getting empty do so I'm like, Okay,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: he didn't ask me to come back in, so he's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: not mixing and matching. I'm still waiting ten people in
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the lobby and I'm like, Okay, that girl was auditioning
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: for this part, but she's not here for Naomi. Who's
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: she here for? Next thing? I know? It's like ten
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: of us, rob Riley, myself, Breonna Price, Me, DeVaughn, and Kadeen.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: He's like, everybody, come.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: In, sorry for Kurt.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: No, you're good, You're good. We walk in the room
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: and he's like, this looks great. He said, this is
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: the cast right here. This looks amazing. He said, all right, guys,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: well congratulations and get ready to work your ass off.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: We'll be doing about two three weeks in Atlanta, and
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: get ready. Our agents and Lawy's will be in contact.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: And I was like, mind you. We was from nine
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: am to like three hours at this point, I'm like,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: holy holy what And just like that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Were y'all all like high five and each other hugging.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Of course because he because here's the thing and this
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: is what Tyler said. He was like, y'all can relax
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: now you're not auditioning no more. And we were all like,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: oh thank you God. We were all like standing there
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: in a lineup, like what do we do like and
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Tyler was like, y'all can relax, Like y'all good, And
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, mister Perry, You're like it was like
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: a moment where we were all like we made the cut.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And it was in person. So I always had oh
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: my gosh, like the story I was never.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Had you told anyone else's story?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: No good, because like telling these stories is like it
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: helps actors understand or people that are not even actors
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: to know the processes that we go through. And why
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I talked about, let's say, the traumas and stuff that
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: happened before, because yeah, I was dealing with all kinds
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of stuff, but when you walk in that audition room
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: or when you're walking in to do your job, all
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: that has to go out the door in the window
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: that morning stuff was going on. I was like, do
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I feel okay? Like you're nervous, you're like thinking about
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: your personal life, but then you're also thinking about what
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I got to go do. If I'm over here worried
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: about what's going on with my personal life, I got
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: to make sure my next job is landed. Which is
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: why I said, sometimes you have to know where to
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: place people, whether it's also your family, because your family
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: could be just as toxic as people that aren't you
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: got to place that in a box and still be
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: able to perform and do your job. Because that's what
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: mattered when I walked in that room. I booked a
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: job and I literally cried. Once I got into the car,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: And who is the first person you called?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Again? It wasn't. I didn't even talk to my family.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: The first person I called was my aunt And the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: second person I called was my friend who helped me
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: do the cel tape. Wow, and I called. And that's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, your friends can become your family.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: And I have a great family. I have a huge family. Like,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm really close to it to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: several members of my family. It's just at this time
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: it's just my mother and my brother. I'm not because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I needed the support in a different way, and the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: way they wanted to have me support them, it wasn't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: going to happen.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Well that and in that moment, you need all positive energy.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: And if you know your people and you put them
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: in their proper place, you know who to call.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying, like, if I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: know I need to get hyped, if I'm going to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: the gym, I'm putting all my ying yang, I'm putting
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: on some CARDI I know the vibe I want to
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, anybody know me knows
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I will be some checking like assault, shaker, whistle while
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and a heartbeat because their and they get you. They
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: get you right. But if I know I'm trying to
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: wind down on the night where I had a long day, Baby,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I need someone, need a baker. Okay, I need some
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: card up in the rapture, I need some Oh my god,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I love her like she's one of my favorite artists ever.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: So I have moments and vibes that I go through.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: But you know where people you want to talk to,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: You know when a moment happens, like who do I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: want to call? Who do I want to be there
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: for me? So I'm so glad that, like I said,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I have amazing support systems, and I keep a small circle,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: and I do hope at some point my mom and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: my brother and all of us can talk. But I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: knew that for me to do the job that I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: needed to do, and this is even prior to this one,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I had to create the space in the distance. If
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: I told you what I need. If it just takes
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: going to a therapy session that's really talking out what happens,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: and you guys are refusing to do that, that's fine.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: I can't force you, but I can also remove my
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: presence and know that my piece has to be maintained
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: because I need to be hurt. And being the younger
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: the two, I was never getting hurt.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Now are you in a place? And this is something
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I've been kind of self discovering a little bit too.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I like everyone in my circle to feel safe to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: advocate for themselves. Oh, I love that, you know what
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if we disagree, you should still feel
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: comfortable to advocate for yourself, Like you shouldn't feel like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: i'mly gonna shut it down or yeah, I'm gonna shut
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: it down, like we're gonna disagree. But and I feel
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: like you're at that place of like I'm gonna continue
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: to advocate for myself.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Right without question. Yeah, you have to self advocate for
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: someone to respect you. And that's the difference I had
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: to learn, Like, of course, if my mom is thirty five,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: my brother's fifty six, and here I am eighteen years
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: younger than them. I was already the little young one
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: of the bunch. Yeah, young siblings never get respect.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Let's be real, they I wrong. I know my little
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: brother gets you know what I'm saying. He started advocating
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: firm you have to and let me tell you something.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I shout out to a little bit of work. It
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: worked because we definitely know, like when he talks, we
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: have to listen.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: No don'ing's wrong is gonna let You're gonna let older
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: siblings have that inside. But like I'm a older sibling,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: like you whatever when I tell you, my brother always
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: told me that you ain't been through shit, And I'm like, okay,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to tell you from my perspective what.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I feel and what does he also advocate for your
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: mom to like you know, I understand her kind of
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: It was a standpoint of like them right in the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: fence of like you know again, I was always the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: middle person. My mom is like oil and my my
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: brother's like the water, and then when you put them together,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: just don't always mix it. I was always that middle
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: person that's creating the peace between their disagreements. So the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: moment I started had my own voice and saying this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: is how I feel that. It's like, but you're not
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: on my side. I t I hated hearing if I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: would disagree about something. She said, No, you're supposed to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: stay with me. I'm your mother. Yeah, but that doesn't
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: mean that I have to agree with you. That old
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: school mindset, and I I've done so much healing on
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: it and studying of what it is. People are fixing
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: their own ways a lot of times, so where they
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: can't break that the idea ideology of what they feel.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm not going to debate her on what she feels.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to get downplayed and like,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: f you you don't know what you're talking about yet,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: But you call me for everything. You call me to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: take care of you. You call me because you know
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I know everything about the computers, I know everything about technology.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: But you need my help all the time. So don't
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: act like you need my help but you don't want
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: to listen to me.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now with the Bore sisters, Yes, you guys all
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: have a very nice chemistry going. Yes, which you don't
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't see that a lot in the industry.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It looks like it definitely carries off camera.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's thousand percent, we ally was out there. Like
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I said, three weeks. The first week, we all just bombed.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: We all got together, We went to bars, we went
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to eat, we hung out. And I already knew LaToya
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: because we did a BT plus movie we played best friends.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: LaToya had already knew several of the girls, like Geneva
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: and Latoy already knew each other, Kadeen and Breonna, like
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: everybody had kind of somehow knew each other in a way.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: So it was perfect. And when we locked in, if
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: we're looking at the story saying we got to be
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: friends for twenty years, we really got to come like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and had little things. So even as a scene in
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: like episode two, I think that I love with me
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: and Brianna in the kitchen, and I'm telling it like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: it is, like, girl, you need to love again. When's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the last time you let a nigga to be with you?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Excuse me, but when's the last time you've been with
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: a man in a kind of way? Because you'll be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: here judging me because I'm stuck on my ex husband.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: But you ain't even had a chance to be willing
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: to go date somebody because your trauma and she has
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: a moment where she's like, you're right, I haven't been
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: able to let go. And in that moment me and her,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, we need to have a thing. Are
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: we gonna do this? We're gonna pump? What is gonna
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: be our little thing? So every one of us have
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: a thing that we ended up doing on camera organically
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: that we thought about to be like how wore me
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: and you interact what we do? Me and her are
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: both dancers, so we were always gonna do like some
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: dance stuff like that's our connection. So the connection that
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: you see on camera is very real. The support is there.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: We have a group chat. It's called Divorced and we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: said that like people ask, so we chat each other.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: We're always like saying, girl, that scene you did was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: so powerful.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Now have you guys ever rallied against Tyler?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Hilarious?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Never never guess, never talked back nothing, no, no.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Like I no, because honestly, Tyler is like and you
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  Speaker 2: never know is when you have somebody like Tyler, you
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: write direct produce, you thinking you gotta be every line
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: must be perfect. When I tell you Tyler, lets you go, Tyler,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: let you go. Like there's one time I remember one
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  Speaker 2: word and I'll say this. Okay, we're just pointing. I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: was like, ooh, did I tear it? I said, like,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: because this character cusses a lot, she will say and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: this is this is literally in the script, so it's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: like she is that expressive type of person. Will she'll
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: say certain words, and I remember I put God in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: front of one of the words, so let's just say
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: this God damn. I didn't know that that was going
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: to be a problem because I'm like goddamn and that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: kind of way. He's like, no, we don't come byd
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: God in a curse word. No. I was like, sorry,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: mister Perry, Okay, we'll go back and do that one
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: line again. And that's I'm like, okay, cool. Because Tyler
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: is a god fearing man, I'm a godfair a woman.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, my bad, I'm in the scene
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: so much. I'm over saying yeah there. He's like, no, no,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: So we've never banned against someone that knows what he's doing. Again,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: if you look at.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: All, then nothing set him up said it up.
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  Speaker 2: I would listen. Tyler took us to his house. Baby.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: When I tell you, first of all, we were all
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: having too much pun over there. It's a brunch. How
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: about just getting to the house, sweetie? When I said, I.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Would have done it in front of him though, you know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Justler's so fun.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Tyler's a guy who'd be like, I want to hurt him.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Get done so I can go drink later. Like Tyler's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: mad cool. But when I tell you when we all
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: got the invite, I'm talking about the Sunday before we
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: started working on a Monday, Tyler's like, so you're going
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: to be getting a call about coming to my house
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: for brunch. And we were like, you're kidding. Right When
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I tell you, they sent personal cars to come pick
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: us up. The ride from his gate to get to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: his house was like four miles.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: How big was the house?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Was that dcastle?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Okay? This is the best O times ten. The best
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: way I could say it is there's a scene in
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies, john Wick, one of the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: last John Wick movies, when they have this big fight
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: on the staircase. When they're fighting. The house that you
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: see in john Wick literally looks like the house that
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: we were at with Tyler. It's it's not even it's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: it looks like a stage It's like, what is this
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: freak out helicopter plane?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: It's helicopter plane and plane.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: He has a plane?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Yo, just shout up. I'm gonna tell you this. I'm
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: gonna speak this into existence. Eating while broke will do
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry MTV Cribs version of eating while broo.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be fun to go into his mansion with
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: his planes.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: And somebody see it. I'm just saying he has a plane.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: To know that you can chart a plane just to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: go eat with your friends, because I know other friends
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: that really don't.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: See a plane like a helicopter plane or like a treaty,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: like a plane that's sitting.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: United Airlines Southwest. That's a plane.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Get the freak out? Did you at least did you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: at least say hey, can I go check it out?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: God? No, that's that's doing too much, you know, eating
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: while broke. I would have been like, let me get
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: you a plane ride to first day before filming? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: to get fired before first day. I'm not trying to
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: be too personal like that, but the fact that he
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: has a plane in his house again, I'm thinking of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: what was he eating while he was broke? Because he
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: was sleeping in his car.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he went before he.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Even had a chance to have these plays. And again
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: an opportunity where he's giving us money to come to set,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: which his studio is like nothing you've ever seen either.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's incredible. Just so, just so you know,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: he has an exit off the freeway. Why are you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: driving in Atlanta, it says Tyler Perry Studios. That's the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: exit you get off.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: As like, so, when you're working with him, do you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: feel extremely motivated that the sky's the limit now after
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: experiencing all.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: That, absolutely, so you okay, And just so people know,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: we shot sixteen episodes in eight days.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I heard a shoot schedule.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I heard.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot. Let me tell you something. People
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I've been saying, like they shoot in a week or
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: two weeks or under two weeks.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: That's real. It was supposed to be ten days and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: we ended up losing a day because of one location issue,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: and then the other day we finished the day early.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: We shot eight days, sixteen whole episodes. Imagine how many
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: paid a day you had to do.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: And you guys got paid a lot too.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: I mean you get paid well, yeah, very well. But
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's like, even if
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: you didn't get paid for three weeks of your time, yeah,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: that's all I know to do other things. No, let
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: me be real, it was great. What I'm saying is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: that how quick it is to make what you make
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: in those three weeks with Tyler Perry, someone would have
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: to work a whole year. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, more
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: well more than that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: That.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: The the salary and the minimum wage is is what
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: it is. You would have to be working several years
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: to get what you can get in three weeks from him,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: because he expects you to come prepared. He expects you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: to do the work.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Obviously, you're not late.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: No one's late, girl, Tyler Perris never late. That's one thing.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Anyone late to say.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Ever, yeah what somebody was sick one of the days,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But again that's that's that's sick. But no, I mean,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: stuff happens by the end of the day. Tyler's such
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: a professional. He's like, we're gonna move this scene to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: the end of the day. We're gonna move this scene
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: over here. He's not gonna lose no time. I like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna lose no time.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I like him, so we got to close this interview out.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I have so much fun with you. I love that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: you opened up the way he did. I feel like
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: we're sisters.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for feeding me. Come on, you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: know I'm gonna finish.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Just lasting bits that we're gonna put our bite together,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: all right, Let's put together, all right? Why tuning in
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