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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
- 0:05Speaker 1: six forty.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Bill Handle here on a Monday morning, February twenty third.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Some of the stories we're looking at. The Department's Homeland
- 0:17Speaker 2: Security has reversed this decision to suspend the TSA pre
- 0:21Speaker 2: check program hours after it suspended it, then it unsuspended it.
- 0:26Speaker 2: There was a lot of backlash, and that was I
- 0:28Speaker 2: think they undid the first suspension, and then we did
- 0:33Speaker 2: the suspension after a suspension, and then they turned around
- 0:37Speaker 2: and we unsuspended it. A little complicated, but we've seen
- 0:43Speaker 2: a lot of that. I'll tell you else we've seen
- 0:45Speaker 2: on a level that got me stunned, and a lot
- 0:48Speaker 2: of other people's done. As you know, the President pulled
- 0:52Speaker 2: us out of the World Health Organization at the beginning
- 0:54Speaker 2: of the second term, and we spent about six hundred
- 0:58Speaker 2: and eighty million dollars a year in dues and voluntary contributions.
- 1:03Speaker 2: And the World Health Organization basically it's exactly what it says.
- 1:07Speaker 2: It's the World Health Organization working with countries all over
- 1:11Speaker 2: the world in dealing with pandemics, epidemics, diseases AID. You know,
- 1:19Speaker 2: for example, one of the things that the President said,
- 1:23Speaker 2: why we wanted to pull out. There is a program
- 1:25Speaker 2: in which one hundred million dollars in condoms were bought
- 1:29Speaker 2: to be used in Africa, and then the next day
- 1:31Speaker 2: it became fifty million dollars and in reality it I
- 1:35Speaker 2: think it was several hundred thousand dollars. So look at
- 1:38Speaker 2: the stupidity. How can we buy condoms for people? Well,
- 1:42Speaker 2: it happens to do with aid with AIDS, the AIDS
- 1:47Speaker 2: issue to somehow not eliminate, but certainly reduce the amount
- 1:53Speaker 2: of AIDS that are being transmitted in Africa. So does
- 1:56Speaker 2: that make sense? Yeah, I think it does. So what
- 2:00Speaker 2: is as a result of this? Because the government still
- 2:04Speaker 2: wants us involved in global health? So the administration is
- 2:09Speaker 2: proposing a two billion dollar a year program to fight
- 2:14Speaker 2: global disease and surveillance and outbreaks around the world.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Now who was.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Basically built by the US, And we spent last year
- 2:25Speaker 2: six hundred and eighty million dollars and we spent too
- 2:28Speaker 2: much money.
- 2:29Speaker 1: That was what the President said.
- 2:32Speaker 2: We are just spending way too much money and we
- 2:35Speaker 2: don't control and we're not happy or he's not happy
- 2:38Speaker 2: with what the World Health Organization does.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And there's not enough control.
- 2:43Speaker 2: So the big issue is the money that we're pissing
- 2:46Speaker 2: away with these people. So instead of spending six hundred
- 2:49Speaker 2: and eighty million dollars a year, let's spend two billion
- 2:53Speaker 2: dollars a year to save some money because we're spending
- 2:57Speaker 2: way too much. And naturally, the statement from the White
- 3:01Speaker 2: House is all of this is to protect Americans. Get
- 3:05Speaker 2: a lot of that. Everything that's done is protecting Americans. Well,
- 3:10Speaker 2: the public, the medical sector and private medical center and
- 3:17Speaker 2: governmental medical center outside of the administration are saying this
- 3:20Speaker 2: was a disaster. It was the decimation of foreign aid
- 3:25Speaker 2: for health, including dismantling of USAID, which was specifically created
- 3:32Speaker 2: to help emerging countries deal with their health issues and
- 3:37Speaker 2: epidemics dealing with for example, malaria, malaria control, and others.
- 3:43Speaker 2: And this guy from Harvard Medical School, a tool Gwande,
- 3:49Speaker 2: who's an expert in all this, said, we're spending more
- 3:54Speaker 2: money than we spent on WHO to create an institution
- 3:56Speaker 2: that's number one unlikely to survive.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Will accomplis show only a fraction of what.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Who did Because the entire world was acting together, even
- 4:06Speaker 2: Russia and China that don't share health data directly with
- 4:11Speaker 2: the United States did share their health data with the
- 4:15Speaker 2: World Health Organization. This was a truly cooperative venture among
- 4:21Speaker 2: the world. This was an easy one where everybody could agree,
- 4:24Speaker 2: we want to save lives around the world, and the
- 4:28Speaker 2: President simply did not want to have anyone else other
- 4:34Speaker 2: than the United States control it. And by the way,
- 4:35Speaker 2: the United States did control it. It was the major contributor.
- 4:39Speaker 2: It really made all the major decisions. But it doesn't matter.
- 4:43Speaker 2: So global health experts were stunned, International authorities were stunned
- 4:49Speaker 2: at it. And so I think the big issue here
- 4:52Speaker 2: is creation of a whole new bureaucracy. And we're talking
- 4:57Speaker 2: about laboratories, administrator buildings, programs, transportation warehouses. We're going to
- 5:08Speaker 2: create our own all over the world and effectively undo
- 5:12Speaker 2: what WHO does let them have WHO.
- 5:14Speaker 1: We are going to have our own.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Well, I know at some point international cooperation should be
- 5:22Speaker 2: and is necessary, and this one was really really a
- 5:26Speaker 2: tough call. I remember well I talked about this a
- 5:30Speaker 2: lot when the President withdrew from WHO, and the same
- 5:34Speaker 2: thing withdrawing from NATO, and the same thing from withdrawing
- 5:38Speaker 2: from the United Nations, for example. And as you know,
- 5:41Speaker 2: his peace program is and he said, it's to control,
- 5:48Speaker 2: is to outdo the United Nations not interested in world involvement.
- 5:53Speaker 1: At the same time world involvement.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Let's let's get Greenland, Let's get can as our fifty
- 6:01Speaker 2: first date. Let's go ahead and pick up Maduro, which
- 6:05Speaker 2: everybody thought was a great idea, although the government of
- 6:10Speaker 2: Venezuela is exactly the same, although they are now listening
- 6:13Speaker 2: to the United States. So everybody thinks. Most people think
- 6:18Speaker 2: that was a pretty good deal. I certainly do. And
- 6:21Speaker 2: at the same time, now with Iran, are we going
- 6:24Speaker 2: to go to war with Iran? If the President is
- 6:28Speaker 2: unhappy with Iran, does if Iran does not come to
- 6:30Speaker 2: the table and does not give up as nuclear capabilities,
- 6:35Speaker 2: it's in Richmond program, it's ballistic missile program. Then the
- 6:40Speaker 2: President said, well, President made it pretty clearer. If we
- 6:44Speaker 2: can't do it the easy way, we'll do it the
- 6:45Speaker 2: hard way. And I don't think anybody doubts that. Well,
- 6:50Speaker 2: that's not staying out of world events. That's jumping in
- 6:55Speaker 2: with both feet and both arms. So the shame of
- 6:59Speaker 2: it is is the World Health Organization just how can
- 7:04Speaker 2: we not stay in it? I mean, we're talking about
- 7:07Speaker 2: a Bola a time I was studying a Marburg virus
- 7:11Speaker 2: and just aids around the world fighting all of those
- 7:14Speaker 2: diseases with the World Health Organization. And we're gonna do
- 7:17Speaker 2: it ourselves.
- 7:18Speaker 1: All right, sure? Why not?
- 7:20Speaker 2: All right?
- 7:20Speaker 1: Coming up? I want to get rid of this. I
- 7:23Speaker 1: have a hard.
- 7:24Speaker 2: Time, and we can't do any more Trump. I'm telling
- 7:29Speaker 2: you right now, no more Trump, no more Trump, but
- 7:34Speaker 2: segments at all, never again until tomorrow, when we're probably
- 7:38Speaker 2: gonna do three more brain rots. It describes being very
- 7:48Speaker 2: online and it's harming our brains. That's one brain rot.
- 7:52Speaker 2: The feeling of coming up for air after spending too
- 7:54Speaker 2: many hours scrolling through social media. That can be brain rot.
- 8:00Speaker 2: Viving the content itself. Brain rot. It's a noun and
- 8:04Speaker 2: it's a verb. It's an adjective, depending on how you
- 8:06Speaker 2: look at it. So there's a woman who wrote a book,
- 8:08Speaker 2: How to Break Up with Your Phone, Catherine Price, and
- 8:13Speaker 2: she not only looked at the studies of people going
- 8:18Speaker 2: through their phone and scrolling, etc. And there are studies
- 8:21Speaker 2: out there. She has heard from thous This is anecdotal.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Lee has heard from thousands of people since her book
- 8:28Speaker 2: was published. Struggling to Focus, for example, p people used
- 8:33Speaker 2: to love reading in books are unable to finish a book.
- 8:37Speaker 2: The smartphones, what they've done is increase, exacerbate, exacerbated our
- 8:43Speaker 2: inclination to be easily distracted.
- 8:45Speaker 1: That's what this is about. So here's research.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Shows that scrolling through short videos TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, shorts
- 8:53Speaker 2: is affecting our attention, our memory, our mental health. There
- 8:58Speaker 2: is scientific literature out there that shows increase use the
- 9:02Speaker 2: short form video is linked to poorer cognition and increase anxiety.
- 9:09Speaker 2: And here is the interesting part. Our brains are distractable naturally.
- 9:14Speaker 2: For example, you're reading a book, or you hear a
- 9:15Speaker 2: loud noise, you're wired to look up and go, well,
- 9:18Speaker 2: was that a gunshot?
- 9:19Speaker 1: Was that a car backfiring.
- 9:22Speaker 2: The problem is with constant interruptions, whether it's phone notifications
- 9:28Speaker 2: or switching from topic to topic as you scroll, it
- 9:31Speaker 2: fragments our attention. Now, the question is are there long
- 9:36Speaker 2: term implications If you look at the science again. Jason Chen,
- 9:42Speaker 2: the professor of psychology and neuroscience at Temple University, says,
- 9:45Speaker 2: we do know there are certain parts of the brain,
- 9:47Speaker 2: certain connections between regions of the brain that look like
- 9:52Speaker 2: they're differentiated between people who are online more.
- 9:56Speaker 1: They can see it when they do cat scans.
- 10:00Speaker 2: More people who spend more time on social media, who
- 10:04Speaker 2: are more attached to their phones show less ability to focus. Now,
- 10:13Speaker 2: now that doesn't mean that causation is a correlation. Is
- 10:17Speaker 2: causation for exec get you don't know? Are people easily
- 10:20Speaker 2: distracted go to phones?
- 10:22Speaker 1: You know?
- 10:22Speaker 2: For example, here's the example I give. There was a scandal,
- 10:28Speaker 2: a little tiny bit of a scandal of Catholic priests
- 10:32Speaker 2: dorking little boys.
- 10:33Speaker 1: You remember that. Now the argument is.
- 10:38Speaker 2: The church responsible for the door curiosity or is the
- 10:44Speaker 2: church just a safe place for people who do that?
- 10:48Speaker 2: Not the church's fault. It's just it's the people's fault
- 10:51Speaker 2: who then go to the church. You see the problems.
- 10:53Speaker 2: So there isn't a real, real close connection. There was
- 10:57Speaker 2: a twenty twenty five study that was up published in
- 11:00Speaker 2: the journal Translational Psychiatry, and researchers looked at data for
- 11:05Speaker 2: more than seven thousand kids around the country. More screen
- 11:09Speaker 2: use was associated with it's a little complicated cortic little thickness,
- 11:16Speaker 2: I mean just the way the brain works. And the
- 11:20Speaker 2: science has said that this is important for controlling addictive behaviors.
- 11:25Speaker 1: So the more use, the more scrolling you do, the
- 11:29Speaker 1: more you.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Pay attention to the phones, the more addictive you can be.
- 11:33Speaker 2: And again, are addictive people going to phones or are
- 11:37Speaker 2: phones causing the addiction adhd? ADHD is a big, big
- 11:44Speaker 2: problem and another important factor. Screen time usually means nighttime use.
- 11:50Speaker 2: You're in bed, scrolling happens a lot. You're just that's
- 11:54Speaker 2: where you spend an enormous amount of time scrolling. And
- 11:58Speaker 2: here is what some of the research says. The number
- 12:01Speaker 2: one reason why kids are not getting the eight hours
- 12:03Speaker 2: recommended eight hours is they're.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Using the screens just too much. That's it. And over time,
- 12:09Speaker 1: not getting enough sleep. Sleep, especially in.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Adolescents, reduces the white matter in the brain. And what
- 12:17Speaker 2: does that mean. Well, white matter is what grows among teenagers.
- 12:23Speaker 2: You've heard about adolescents, and you really don't have your
- 12:27Speaker 2: full brain functioning, your full brain ability to look at
- 12:33Speaker 2: factors and see what's dangerous, which is why teenagers and
- 12:37Speaker 2: young people are crazy. They will do things. They're invulnerable.
- 12:40Speaker 2: No one's going to kill us, nothing's going to kill us. Well,
- 12:43Speaker 2: that is a question of the brain not evolving, and
- 12:45Speaker 2: it doesn't evolve till you're in your late twenties. So
- 12:49Speaker 2: the bottom line is this ain't good for you. And
- 12:54Speaker 2: here are some suggestions. No screens in the bedroom for anyone.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Make conscience decisions when using chatbots. Our brains love shortcuts,
- 13:05Speaker 2: but if you don't use a skill, you lose the skill.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And the chat bots do all your thinking for you.
- 13:13Speaker 2: You don't spend a lot of time analyzing.
- 13:15Speaker 1: They do it.
- 13:16Speaker 2: And the problem is, again, if you don't use it,
- 13:19Speaker 2: you lose it. And that's a real problem. We're gonna
- 13:22Speaker 2: find some major, major problems with screening. I don't have
- 13:25Speaker 2: that problem because I don't.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Screen very much. I don't scroll very much. I don't
- 13:29Speaker 1: I don't get my news from the internet. I don't
- 13:31Speaker 1: get my news. I just don't. We would have never
- 13:35Speaker 1: guess that by the term you just used. I don't
- 13:37Speaker 1: scroll very much. I don't scroll my screen very much.
- 13:41Speaker 1: I don't screen my scroll.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Okay, you have the attention span of a net already long.
- 13:47Speaker 1: But that's true. But that has nothing to do.
- 13:48Speaker 2: That's true because I don't have the patience to actually
- 13:52Speaker 2: screen by scroll. Okay, now let me tell you about
- 14:00Speaker 2: something that happens governmentally and even privately when businesses are
- 14:06Speaker 2: bought and sold in contracts are written, or you have
- 14:11Speaker 2: new laws that are written, or in this case ICE
- 14:14Speaker 2: and that is the concept of unintended consequences, and that
- 14:19Speaker 2: is a big deal.
- 14:21Speaker 1: So let me tell you what's going on with ICE.
- 14:24Speaker 2: There is a little town called Socorro near the Rio
- 14:26Speaker 2: Grand It's a border wall.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Town, and rumors were swirling around that.
- 14:33Speaker 2: ICE folks were buying some serious amount of warehouse space.
- 14:42Speaker 2: This is actually the Department Homeland Security had bought one
- 14:45Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two million dollars for eight hundred and
- 14:48Speaker 2: twenty six thousand square feet of warehouses in Sicoro.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Sacoro has forty thousand people.
- 14:56Speaker 2: That is a problem because they're putting in more people
- 14:59Speaker 2: in warehouses around the country because they just need more
- 15:04Speaker 2: warehouse space. One of the things about picking up a
- 15:07Speaker 2: lot of detainees, picking up a lot of putative illegal.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Aliens, not just the worst of the worst.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Let's get real here, picking up a lot of people
- 15:18Speaker 2: and detaining them.
- 15:20Speaker 1: They need a space and there isn't enough space.
- 15:25Speaker 2: And as the Department Homeland Security and ICE is falling
- 15:30Speaker 2: precipitously in the way Americans view them they're going straight
- 15:35Speaker 2: uphill with buying these warehouses for detention centers. Sakuro is
- 15:44Speaker 2: among twenty communities with these large warehouses across the US
- 15:49Speaker 2: that have become targets, actually stealth targets for ICE. They're
- 15:54Speaker 2: forty five billion dollar expansion of detention centers.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Forty five billion dollars just for detention centers.
- 16:02Speaker 2: So here are the unintended consequences Because ICE comes in
- 16:07Speaker 2: and it builds this massive destension center for five seven thousand,
- 16:12Speaker 2: ten thousand people. Well, guess what the communities have to
- 16:15Speaker 2: do when you have an extra seven thousand people in
- 16:18Speaker 2: little towns like SoCoRo, they have to build increase sanitation services,
- 16:24Speaker 2: lighting roads. And these are poor towns. I mean, you
- 16:31Speaker 2: cannot bring ten thousand people into a town where there
- 16:35Speaker 2: are forty thousand people increase it by twenty five percent
- 16:39Speaker 2: without building infrastructure.
- 16:41Speaker 1: And these towns are just going Come on.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Also, list the political fallout of this too. I mean,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody is offended by forty five
- 16:51Speaker 2: billion dollars just for new detention centers.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I kind of am.
- 16:57Speaker 2: And there are fewer and fewer people that are getting
- 17:01Speaker 2: in line saying ICE is doing a great job, and
- 17:04Speaker 2: they're pulling back.
- 17:06Speaker 1: They are pulling back. We know that.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Tom Holme, who is the the immigrations Zar the detentions
- 17:14Speaker 2: are is it has pulled back all of or many
- 17:19Speaker 2: of the federal ICE agents. A matter of fact, the
- 17:21Speaker 2: vast majority from the various towns now they, by the way,
- 17:26Speaker 2: they have not walked back at all. Christy Nomes's statement
- 17:32Speaker 2: about the two people that were killed, right, Renee Good
- 17:37Speaker 2: and Alex Pretty as far as they are concerned, they
- 17:42Speaker 2: both of them were still domestic terrorists that were trying
- 17:46Speaker 2: to kill ICE agents. They never walk that back. We'll
- 17:51Speaker 2: see what happens with these warehouses. The problem is the
- 17:54Speaker 2: land has already been bought. The warehouses have already been bought.
- 17:57Speaker 2: These are empty warehouses, tribution centers. Because these various businesses,
- 18:05Speaker 2: well they guessed there were going to be a lot
- 18:07Speaker 2: more and the business is not as strong as they
- 18:11Speaker 2: assumed it was going to be. All right, I want
- 18:13Speaker 2: to have fun now, all right, let me tell you
- 18:16Speaker 2: what happened at the Munich Security conference this month. The
- 18:19Speaker 2: beginning of this month, Marco Rubio said in a speech
- 18:24Speaker 2: that the entire I'm going to quote the entire romance
- 18:27Speaker 2: of the cowboy archetype that became synonymous with the American
- 18:32Speaker 2: West was born in Spain. All the Mexican went nuts.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Mexico went, oh, no, no, no, let's stop it right there,
- 18:42Speaker 2: unintended consequences. You throw a line out, it's fairly benign, saying, hey,
- 18:46Speaker 2: American cowboy came from you guys.
- 18:47Speaker 1: He's talking to the people from Spain.
- 18:49Speaker 2: And you know why not, Well, Mexico went completely nuts
- 18:53Speaker 2: and said, no, no, no, cowboys came from Mexico.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Why because if you look, if.
- 18:59Speaker 2: You look at the horses that were brought over from Spain,
- 19:04Speaker 2: we're the ones that russelled cattle, were the ones that
- 19:10Speaker 2: had We had the cattle herds. We had what cowboys
- 19:14Speaker 2: do that was developed here in Mexico.
- 19:16Speaker 1: And when you think.
- 19:16Speaker 2: About it, Rubio said that the cowboy lineage can be
- 19:21Speaker 2: traced to Spain the Iberian Peninsula because the animals were
- 19:25Speaker 2: brought the horses were bought over there. But no, no,
- 19:29Speaker 2: not at all as far as Mexico is concerned, because
- 19:33Speaker 2: here were the horses and sheep and donkeys brought over
- 19:38Speaker 2: to the New World, and we have the grasslands, planes
- 19:42Speaker 2: and deserts, and the animals just absolutely thrived. So cattle
- 19:48Speaker 2: had to be managed, and so the job of refining
- 19:54Speaker 2: the techniques of riding and roping fell to the Mexican cowboy,
- 20:00Speaker 2: the vecanos, which is the standard, the Mexican word for cows,
- 20:05Speaker 2: and the Mexican cowboys, they were adept at everything from
- 20:09Speaker 2: caving to branding to overseeing the long distance cattle drives.
- 20:13Speaker 1: And if you.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Look at the language of dealing with cattle, words such
- 20:19Speaker 2: as corral, lasso, bronco, lariat chaps, which by the way,
- 20:27Speaker 2: are a very big part of gay porno films, that
- 20:30Speaker 2: all came from the Mexican version.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Well the Spanish version certainly the language well the language
- 20:39Speaker 1: king it from white Spain. Yes, And that's the point.
- 20:43Speaker 1: And I think that's the point that.
- 20:47Speaker 3: Music is German because brass came to Mexico by way
- 20:52Speaker 3: of Germany.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Yeah, the point that that is being made, I think,
- 20:57Speaker 2: and the Mexican cowboy experts, if you will, as well
- 21:03Speaker 2: as historians say it's all mixed up.
- 21:05Speaker 1: You cannot claim anything came from.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Any particular group, because it was indigenous people in the
- 21:13Speaker 2: Portuguese and people from Spain. And so you put all
- 21:17Speaker 2: that together and you get the Cowboy. Now, a couple
- 21:20Speaker 2: things are historically correct. Horses did come from the Iberian Peninsula,
- 21:25Speaker 2: but that was before Spain was Spain.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Is when horses came over.
- 21:32Speaker 2: So it is just this mishmash and the point I'm saying,
- 21:36Speaker 2: and this is where going back to unintended consequences, something
- 21:39Speaker 2: is benign as cowboy because he's speaking to a Spanish
- 21:42Speaker 2: group from Spain and he said, by the way, our
- 21:46Speaker 2: cowboys come from Spain and we basically want to thank you.
- 21:51Speaker 2: And what happens with people on the internet, what happens
- 21:54Speaker 2: with the response from Mexican authorities and people of Mexican descent,
- 21:59Speaker 2: go berserve.
- 22:00Speaker 3: I also believed it came from Mexico, and I want
- 22:03Speaker 3: to stick with that. And I know that John Wayne
- 22:07Speaker 3: is turning in his great SAPs probably saying offensive words
- 22:18Speaker 3: like shaps.
- 22:19Speaker 2: Okay, I've made that point. Okay, fair enough, I've milked
- 22:22Speaker 2: that on the way. Yeah, I've milked that one to death. Okay,
- 22:26Speaker 2: We're done, guys, Gary and Shannon up next. We're back
- 22:30Speaker 2: again tomorrow morning. Cono is one of the few people
- 22:33Speaker 2: that actually laugh at that stuff. Will and Amy come
- 22:38Speaker 2: aboard at five o'clock with wake up call. Will you
- 22:41Speaker 2: may want to try to comb your hair at some point,
- 22:44Speaker 2: and then Neil and I jump in from six to nine.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Of course, Cono, you can't tell if he combs his
- 22:50Speaker 2: hair because he always wears that hat, and Neil, who
- 22:54Speaker 2: rarely combs his hair because he has.
- 22:56Speaker 3: Starting it different today. Nobody noticed that's true.
- 23:01Speaker 2: All Right, We're done, guys. Gary Shannon up next. Catch
- 23:04Speaker 2: it tomorrow kf I am six p forty.
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