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- 0:00Speaker 1: Jacob Fry and Tim Waltz. They probably want this outcome
- 0:04Speaker 1: because they this gives them an excuse.
- 0:06Speaker 2: We get all that, we get all of that.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Christine Nome's reaction has been very bad, no way around that.
- 0:13Speaker 1: There's reports now out of the White House that President
- 0:16Speaker 1: Trump is not happy with Christy Nomes that to go
- 0:18Speaker 1: on TV and say the guy is a domestic terrorist
- 0:21Speaker 1: who was finally to assassinate, to show up in massacre scores,
- 0:27Speaker 1: come on, I mean, you know, and what's emerging is
- 0:30Speaker 1: an ICU nurse who is one of these social justice
- 0:33Speaker 1: warriors who may or may not have been part of
- 0:36Speaker 1: the signal chat to try to mobilize these protests. But
- 0:41Speaker 1: we can't. We can't pretend that something is A when
- 0:48Speaker 1: it's B. We can't say up is down. There's no if.
- 0:53Speaker 1: To this day, a lot of people are are livid
- 0:56Speaker 1: that an unarmed Ashley Babbitt was shot and killed at
- 0:59Speaker 1: the Capitol and and rightfully so. This guy at the
- 1:02Speaker 1: time of the shooting, and I know we all have
- 1:05Speaker 1: the hindsight, the benefit of hindsight and analyzing video, they
- 1:09Speaker 1: disarmed him and apparently the gun went off accidentally allegedly
- 1:14Speaker 1: after he was disarmed and they started yelling gun, gun gun. Now, look,
- 1:18Speaker 1: you don't need to tell me or convince me that
- 1:21Speaker 1: when you show up to a protest with a loaded
- 1:23Speaker 1: weapon and you're ready to scuffle with law enforcement, you're
- 1:27Speaker 1: asking for trouble, ever.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Trouble, but not hoping to be killed, but asking for trouble.
- 1:33Speaker 3: And that's what this entire mon good. You finish your
- 1:36Speaker 3: paragraph because you're.
- 1:37Speaker 2: On a round.
- 1:37Speaker 1: So no, that's okay, because you know two things can
- 1:40Speaker 1: be true at the same time. The guy made some
- 1:43Speaker 1: terrible decisions, but nonetheless it was likely a bad shooting.
- 1:48Speaker 1: And I've talked to law enforcement all weekend long, who said,
- 1:52Speaker 1: that's the We talk about shootings in terms of good
- 1:55Speaker 1: shootings bad shootings. If a gun went off accidentally, that
- 1:59Speaker 1: they armed from him and then somebody panicked and said gun,
- 2:03Speaker 1: gun gun. I mean, Mark, it's not a bad it's
- 2:07Speaker 1: not a good luck, not a good luck.
- 2:09Speaker 3: But when you say bad shooting, this is with them
- 2:11Speaker 3: what this kind of what I'm talking about.
- 2:13Speaker 2: But that's okay. Let's spin our wheels for a couple
- 2:15Speaker 2: on this.
- 2:16Speaker 3: When you say bad shooting, do you mean horribly unfortunate?
- 2:20Speaker 3: Because it probably wasn't necessary or time for charges to
- 2:24Speaker 3: be finally in somebody.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about charges.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I think the way I analyze it, And based on
- 2:31Speaker 1: a long conversation I had with a senior law enforcement
- 2:34Speaker 1: a federal law enforcement official, it was a series of
- 2:37Speaker 1: very unfortunate events that led to this guy's killing. And
- 2:41Speaker 1: it shouldn't have happened, but it did. And look, this
- 2:44Speaker 1: happens all the time day to day. I mean, I've
- 2:46Speaker 1: spent hundreds of hours riding with officers. They have a second,
- 2:49Speaker 1: a split second to make a decision, and waiting might
- 2:53Speaker 1: lead them to go home in a body back.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Correct.
- 2:56Speaker 1: So it's again, we're all Monday morning quarterbacks who freeze
- 3:00Speaker 1: frame this and let's slow the And on top of
- 3:03Speaker 1: everything else, you got the nightmare of AI. You got
- 3:07Speaker 1: AI versions of this incident that are not helpful. Oh
- 3:10Speaker 1: haven't you seen those? They're they're oh yeah, they're they've
- 3:14Speaker 1: they've actually added.
- 3:15Speaker 3: A gun animations, and they've added a gun to the
- 3:19Speaker 3: guy's right hand.
- 3:21Speaker 1: He was holding the he was holding the camera. He
- 3:23Speaker 1: wasn't holding the gun. All right, You had the you
- 3:24Speaker 1: had the gun in the waistband. They got the gun
- 3:26Speaker 1: off his body, and then after they got the gun
- 3:29Speaker 1: off his body and you could clearly see the officer
- 3:32Speaker 1: with his gun in the officer's hand, and then somebody
- 3:36Speaker 1: yelled gun and blamed they went they fired away.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Like do you feel like, since we know, like we
- 3:42Speaker 3: know our own names, that the moment those shots were fired,
- 3:44Speaker 3: that the mob, and sadly the mob includes the mayor
- 3:48Speaker 3: and the governor, that the mob is going to go
- 3:51Speaker 3: look more Nazis, more evil, Trump, more evil Ice more
- 3:55Speaker 3: you that since they're going to crank it up to eleven?
- 3:58Speaker 3: Do you feel like there was a psychle lie human
- 4:00Speaker 3: nature thing on the part of some in the administration
- 4:03Speaker 3: that says, we better ramp it up. Similarly, on the
- 4:05Speaker 3: other side, we better categorize this guy not just as
- 4:09Speaker 3: an unfortunate fool, but as a willful domestic terrorist. Did
- 4:17Speaker 3: you feel like they just said we got to match
- 4:18Speaker 3: him on the battlefield fire for fire, because that's what
- 4:21Speaker 3: got him in trouble over the weekend, because it just
- 4:23Speaker 3: was not a good.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Looks It's hard to understand what they were thinking. I
- 4:28Speaker 1: suppose that could be an explanation that they feel like
- 4:31Speaker 1: they've got to come up with some kind of a
- 4:33Speaker 1: defense I wish, and here I am a big mouth
- 4:37Speaker 1: talk show host from right off the bat set. How
- 4:39Speaker 1: about we all wait until the investigation is completed. Yes,
- 4:43Speaker 1: and yes there is there better be a fool not
- 4:47Speaker 1: going to do what.
- 4:48Speaker 3: No, the crazy left will not wait, will not be patient,
- 4:52Speaker 3: and that's why it's.
- 4:53Speaker 2: A lot of heavy that's on them.
- 4:57Speaker 3: It is, but it also means that our fear is
- 5:00Speaker 3: they will then win the narrative, win the news cycle,
- 5:02Speaker 3: because there they are.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Going Nazis Nazis, Trump's the.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Antichrist while we're being so thoughtful, which, by the way,
- 5:09Speaker 3: is the right thing to be thoughtful, restrained, patient.
- 5:13Speaker 1: And that's when I set off the off the get go,
- 5:16Speaker 1: And within an hour of this thing, I said, let's
- 5:18Speaker 1: be thoughtful, restrained and patient. Let's wait until the investigation
- 5:21Speaker 1: plays out. I mean, yes, here's the thing that's also
- 5:24Speaker 1: intriguing to me. I was talking to my boss and
- 5:26Speaker 1: driving into work, as I often do Phil Boyce and
- 5:28Speaker 1: Phil and I were both commiserating over the fact that
- 5:31Speaker 1: it's not like these border patrol officers and ice officers
- 5:35Speaker 1: aren't aware that they are every their every move is
- 5:39Speaker 1: being scrutinized. They know they've got thousands of cameras trained
- 5:43Speaker 1: at them at any given moment, not just scrutinized. Oh
- 5:45Speaker 1: it's weaponize, weaponized, of course, but they but they're not
- 5:49Speaker 1: unaware of it.
- 5:50Speaker 2: So and that's another problem.
- 5:52Speaker 1: But look, that's what an NYPD officer goes through every
- 5:56Speaker 1: day of the week. When they make an arrest on
- 5:58Speaker 1: Times Square or on the Upper Eastide or wherever they
- 6:00Speaker 1: may be, they know no chances are they'll be a
- 6:02Speaker 1: half a dozen people whip out their cell phones and
- 6:05Speaker 1: they chronicle that arrest. And so they have to be
- 6:08Speaker 1: incredibly careful, they have to be incredibly smart, and they
- 6:12Speaker 1: have to go above and beyond what they would probably
- 6:14Speaker 1: normally do. Look, there was a day you fall with
- 6:17Speaker 1: a cop. You got the snot beat out of your period.
- 6:19Speaker 1: It's the way that goes Those days are largely gone.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I want to ask you about not only the reaction
- 6:25Speaker 1: from Jacob Fry and Tim Waltz, but also media. Have
- 6:29Speaker 1: you ever heard of Brian Taff from ABC six in Philadelphia.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that name? He's a news anchor. Okay,
- 6:37Speaker 1: name is Brian Taff. Taff you want to see his
- 6:40Speaker 1: Twitter site?
- 6:41Speaker 2: I don't know how he wound up on my Twitter feed.
- 6:44Speaker 1: This guy is absolutely a crazed, far left Trump hating
- 6:50Speaker 1: law enforcement hating guy, which he has every right to be.
- 6:55Speaker 1: He's the news anchor for the ABC affiliate in Philadelphi.
- 7:00Speaker 1: For you, I mean, you know, Ari Fleischer wrote a
- 7:07Speaker 1: posted something on x that said, essentially, look, you can't
- 7:10Speaker 1: show up at a protest armed.
- 7:13Speaker 2: You got it. Blah blah blah. It was a very
- 7:15Speaker 2: reasonable take. Sorry if it was exactly the reasonable way
- 7:18Speaker 2: to be.
- 7:18Speaker 3: If you're walking into a situation like this, know that
- 7:20Speaker 3: it's tense, if you attract negative attention from law enforcement,
- 7:24Speaker 3: you know, make it clear you pose no threat, et cetera,
- 7:27Speaker 3: et cetera.
- 7:27Speaker 1: And he did the opposite of that. And Ari Fleischer
- 7:31Speaker 1: isn't exactly candae owns. Okay, so he's a he's a
- 7:34Speaker 1: pretty moderate, restrained.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Guy, right. So so you saw his post.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Here's the ABC news anchor of Philadelphia's response on Twitter.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Utterly reprehensible. But that's your thing.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Is it not possible in your world to acknowledge when
- 7:52Speaker 1: something is simply wrong, rather than to spin it in
- 7:56Speaker 1: such a way to benefit your perceived side. Not every
- 8:00Speaker 1: everything has two equal sides. Unless you see the world
- 8:04Speaker 1: in two dimensions. Now again, anybody has an absolute right
- 8:09Speaker 1: to that opinion. But doesn't it strike you as bizarre
- 8:12Speaker 1: that he's the nightly anchorman on the ABC six newscast.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Listeners might say, no, that's media, No, no, no it Mike's right.
- 8:20Speaker 3: This is a whole, whole another level of treachery. Usually,
- 8:24Speaker 3: if this is an MSNBC anchor, reporter slides in something snide,
- 8:29Speaker 3: or one of the hosts of the morning shows, which
- 8:30Speaker 3: we saw plenty of that this this, this is like
- 8:34Speaker 3: Doug Dunbar on Channel eleven or John mcs back of
- 8:36Speaker 3: the Channel eight.
- 8:37Speaker 1: It's like, what, so I know, I mean the evidently
- 8:42Speaker 1: they've decided to drop any pretense of objectivity from their
- 8:47Speaker 1: anchorman in one of America's biggest markets, Mark, I mean,
- 8:50Speaker 1: can you imagine what the news coverage is like every
- 8:52Speaker 1: night coming from his anchor, Desh.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can't think about that.
- 8:56Speaker 3: You mentioned, so what did I mean by the silver lining?
- 8:58Speaker 3: You and I were texting over the weekend and you're
- 9:00Speaker 3: very say this is going to be bad, this is
- 9:02Speaker 3: going to be messy. When I say silver lining, I
- 9:04Speaker 3: don't mean something to make everything light and sprightly and wonderful.
- 9:07Speaker 2: But if indeed in the.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Result of some bad messaging, Trump makes clear that the
- 9:14Speaker 3: messaging needs to be better. And we have a situation
- 9:17Speaker 3: maybe of a shooting that we're not all going to
- 9:20Speaker 3: rally behind and say.
- 9:21Speaker 2: One hundred percent justified. We know it's one hundred percent justified.
- 9:24Speaker 2: We don't know that it's not. But we don't know
- 9:26Speaker 2: that it is.
- 9:27Speaker 3: That might earn us some objectivity points that Lord knows,
- 9:31Speaker 3: the left will never earn.
- 9:33Speaker 1: That's kind of well, perhaps I saw your comments, I
- 9:35Speaker 1: watched you closely over the weekend on social media. This
- 9:39Speaker 1: to me is way bigger than a messaging problem. I
- 9:43Speaker 1: don't think this is about messaging. This this had Look,
- 9:46Speaker 1: they're not going to go anywhere in Minneapolis.
- 9:48Speaker 2: They're not going to back down in fact now now
- 9:50Speaker 2: should they nor show? Should they? No? No, No, I'm
- 9:53Speaker 2: talking about the protesters.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Right, Okay, But they're on the side of this because
- 9:56Speaker 3: this is sort of the conversation of the day. I've
- 9:58Speaker 3: heard five, six, seven people I respect, and you touched
- 10:01Speaker 3: on it a little as just kind of a talking point.
- 10:03Speaker 3: There's a there's a narrative that says, Okay, Minnesota we're
- 10:07Speaker 3: gonna give you what you asked for. We're pulling all
- 10:10Speaker 3: of them out. We're gonna let the illegals run wild.
- 10:12Speaker 3: Let you just bathe in the juice of your own crime.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Happy.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Now, it's so satisfying to say that, And it's a
- 10:19Speaker 3: horrible id.
- 10:21Speaker 1: It's a terrible idea because it's it's mob rule wins.
- 10:24Speaker 1: That means the mob gets to chase lawn for it. However, however,
- 10:28Speaker 1: President Trump has an uncanny ability to pivot.
- 10:32Speaker 2: I mean, look at Greenland.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I mean one moment, it seemed like we were about
- 10:36Speaker 1: to go in there, guns blazing with tanks, and they said,
- 10:38Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm not gonna take over Greenland.
- 10:40Speaker 2: You know, there was a pivot there.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Whether you agree with him or disagree with him, he's.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Never gonna surrender. He's never gonna.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Say, oh, yeah, you win, blah blah blah. But he
- 10:50Speaker 1: does have an ability to make some changes. I don't
- 10:55Speaker 1: know if you trust Eric Erickson's source. Eric Erickson claims
- 10:58Speaker 1: that he's got a senior White official who is saying
- 11:01Speaker 1: that Trump is very unhappy with Christine.
- 11:03Speaker 2: No, that was late last night that he trusted out.
- 11:06Speaker 3: So Trump also had five six chances over the weekend
- 11:09Speaker 3: to say totally clean shooting. Everything's bying, nothing wrong here. Oh,
- 11:12Speaker 3: he didn't say that, and he did not. He was asked,
- 11:15Speaker 3: which he was asked by the Wall Street may speak volumes.
- 11:18Speaker 1: He was asked by the Wall Street Journal apparently late
- 11:20Speaker 1: last night, and he would not commit one way or
- 11:23Speaker 1: the other. He said there had Look, there has to
- 11:25Speaker 1: be an investigation, and look, the Feds and the locals
- 11:29Speaker 1: have to be on the same page.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Well, these locals hate the Feds.
- 11:33Speaker 3: There's the stupid Minneapolis police chief saying, well, we arrested
- 11:36Speaker 3: four hundred people last year and we didn't shore it anybody.
- 11:40Speaker 3: And people wonder and Fry and Walls wonder why local
- 11:44Speaker 3: Barney Fife is not allowed into this investigation.
- 11:47Speaker 2: It's because he's is an impediment.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Do you think it's a thirty seconds take us out,
- 11:52Speaker 3: governor have a five so take us out?
- 11:54Speaker 1: Got you you think that it's any coincidence that Minneapolis
- 11:56Speaker 1: is the only city where this is all happening.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Hemphis, New Orleans, the Texas they hate Trump, and well
- 12:04Speaker 3: Texas weird. At least we have some nobody put some
- 12:07Speaker 3: sanity or something around here.
- 12:08Speaker 1: I liked it well, but it's not happening anywhere else.
- 12:11Speaker 1: It's only happening in Luna. Lunatic happen in Detroit or
- 12:15Speaker 1: New York. It's not happening in Chicago. I mean, even
- 12:20Speaker 1: so that there's a story there all right, hanging there
- 12:22Speaker 1: by the way, I'm sick as a dog.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I hope you haven't noticed.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I mean, I've got allergies out the wazoo. Disney's Castaway
- 12:31Speaker 1: Key has this island with trees, and it was breezy
- 12:34Speaker 1: and windy and sure enough here, so I just tried
- 12:36Speaker 1: to Nettie pot. Oh my lord, that was a that
- 12:39Speaker 1: was a catastrophe. Oh my gosh. I got water coming
- 12:42Speaker 1: out my eyes and my no and my ears. It
- 12:45Speaker 1: didn't work. Oh my lord, that'd be my last. I
- 12:49Speaker 1: never doing that again. All right, So happy Monday. There's
- 12:53Speaker 1: a visual thank you. He's gonna rock Foot shows Life
- 12:59Speaker 1: and it's Sale News Channel