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Murder In Moscow: Dylan Mortensen Faces Scrutiny In The Wake Of The Murders · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: we heard that Dylan Mortensen was dealing with survivor's guilt
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  Speaker 1: after her roommates were murdered, and she had a run-in
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  Speaker 1: with the accused murderer, who the government tells us is
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  Speaker 1: Brian Kohlberger. And according to her father and her ex-stepmother,
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  Speaker 1: she's been really going through it. Well, there's an article
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  Speaker 1: out in the Daily Mail talking about how Dylan Mortensen
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  Speaker 1: is seen out in costume, dressed up, and having a
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  Speaker 1: good time with all of her friends. And the headline
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  Speaker 1: here is very suggestive. The headline is basically saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: I thought she had survivor's guilt. What's she doing out
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  Speaker 1: here partying with her friends if she has survivor's guilt?
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  Speaker 1: And my answer to that is, how's she ever supposed
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  Speaker 1: to get over that guilt? How's she ever supposed to
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  Speaker 1: get over feeling terrible if she doesn't move on with
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  Speaker 1: her life? Is she supposed to just stay home forever?
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  Speaker 1: Never leave the house again? Never go to a party?
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  Speaker 1: Never have fun? Let's be very clear, okay? It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Mortensen who murdered her roommates. And the people out
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  Speaker 1: here yapping about her, they're coming off a lot like
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  Speaker 1: that TikTok so-called tarot card reader who was out here
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  Speaker 1: popping off at the lip about the professor talking about
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  Speaker 1: how Rebecca Schofield was involved in this. That's how people
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  Speaker 1: sound when they're talking about Dylan Mortensen or Bethany Funk
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  Speaker 1: being part of the murders. It's just not something that
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  Speaker 1: is based in reality. There's literally zero evidence for anything
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  Speaker 1: that even resembles something like that. But there's still people
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  Speaker 1: out there who keep making shit up. That way they
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  Speaker 1: can keep driving traffic to their website or whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: then inevitably, when we get to the trial, and we
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  Speaker 1: get all of the facts, we get all of the details...
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  Speaker 1: And Brian Kohlberger gets convicted. Those same lames who are
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  Speaker 1: out here on TikTok being all contrarian, talking about this
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  Speaker 1: one's going to get freed. This one's going free. He's
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  Speaker 1: not going to get convicted. They're always wrong. And then
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  Speaker 1: they just keep it moving like nothing happened, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: they never made a bunch of stupid ass predictions that
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  Speaker 1: fell directly on their face. Instead, they just move on
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  Speaker 1: to the next tragedy and they start pumping out more lies.
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  Speaker 1: Today's article is from thedailymail.com. And the headline. Idaho murders
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  Speaker 1: victim's roommate, Dylan Mortensen, is seen in costume dancing and
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  Speaker 1: partying with friends just weeks after her family revealed she
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  Speaker 1: suffers from survivor's guilt over her brush with accused killer
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  Speaker 1: Brian Kohlberger. The author of this article is Harriet Alexander.
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  Speaker 1: One of two Idaho students who survived the massacre at
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  Speaker 1: their shared house is emerging from her self-imposed isolation, new
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  Speaker 1: photo show, a year after the attack. Dylan Mortensen, 21,
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  Speaker 1: has been racked with survivor's guilt, according to her stepmother,
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  Speaker 1: and turned into a recluse, staying at home and playing
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  Speaker 1: video games, according to her father. So she goes out
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  Speaker 1: one night, and all of a sudden, let's pile on. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this kid went out. She got dressed up. God forbid
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  Speaker 1: a 21-year-old kid goes out for Halloween. It's just absurd.
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  Speaker 1: But newly emerged photos show her at a sorority initiation
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  Speaker 1: on September 15th with her University of Idaho friends and
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  Speaker 1: at an October 31st Halloween party dressed in a gold
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  Speaker 1: sparkly outfit. Oh, well, there it is, folks. A gold
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  Speaker 1: sparkly outfit. They really nailed her here. Patricia Monroe, Mortensen's stepmother,
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  Speaker 1: said earlier this month that she had dropped out of
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  Speaker 1: the University of Idaho and switched schools, so it was
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  Speaker 1: not clear whether she was back to visit or not.
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  Speaker 1: if she was still enrolled, in the same college. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know one way or the other, but does
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  Speaker 1: it seem that unlikely that somebody would go and hang
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  Speaker 1: out with their friends that they used to go to
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  Speaker 1: school with? Doesn't seem that unlikely to me. And you
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  Speaker 1: know what this story is a product of, folks? This
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  Speaker 1: story right here is a product of there being a
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  Speaker 1: gag order on this case and there being no information
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  Speaker 1: to share with people. That's why you get stories like this.
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  Speaker 1: Mortensen has found her life turned upside down since the
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  Speaker 1: murder of her four roommates in November of 2022, Madison Mogan,
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  Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalves, Zanna Kernodle, and her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin. The
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  Speaker 1: four were stabbed to death in their beds in the
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  Speaker 1: early morning hours of a Sunday morning. Mortensen said she
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  Speaker 1: saw a man leaving the house in Moscow, Idaho, in
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  Speaker 1: the early hours, but did not realize until hours later
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  Speaker 1: that four of her roommates had been murdered. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of questions that still haven't
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  Speaker 1: been answered, really, when it comes to what happened in
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  Speaker 1: the aftermath of these murders. And we're going to find
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  Speaker 1: out a whole lot more come trial time, obviously. But
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  Speaker 1: until we get there, it's going to be pretty light
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  Speaker 1: on details. We're only going to get what we get
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  Speaker 1: out of those court documents. And that's why it's so
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  Speaker 1: important that we stay on top of those court documents
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  Speaker 1: and keep them moving. Because if not, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to have any idea what's going on here. And again,
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  Speaker 1: that's all because of the gag order. Like every other
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  Speaker 1: case we're talking about right now, basically, it's a touch
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  Speaker 1: and go situation trying to figure things out because there's
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  Speaker 1: not any information that's being given to the public. So
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  Speaker 1: we have to navigate through those court documents and try
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  Speaker 1: and make heads or tails of what's going on. Brian Koberger,
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  Speaker 1: a 28-year-old criminology student, has been charged with four counts
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  Speaker 1: of murder and pleaded not guilty. He remains in jail
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  Speaker 1: with no trial date yet set. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a summer trial for
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  Speaker 1: Brian Koberger. I'm not positive, obviously. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: Judge Judge is thinking, and I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors are up to, but it seems likely that summer
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the time where this man is
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  Speaker 1: finally put inside of that courtroom and and has to
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  Speaker 1: face justice. But with that said, we have to recognize
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  Speaker 1: that the wheels of justice, they grind slowly. So it
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  Speaker 1: might take a little bit longer than that even. Mortensen
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  Speaker 1: left Moscow earlier this year, said Monroe, Mortensen's stepmother. Monroe
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  Speaker 1: was married to Mortensen's father, Brent, and helped raise Dylan
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  Speaker 1: from the age of seven until almost her graduation for
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  Speaker 1: high school. She told the New York Post that she
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  Speaker 1: remained close to the family and that Mortensen was okay. Monroe, 53, said,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guilt because, you know, if someone says, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: Dylan was so lucky, you know, you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take on that luck because all of the children deserve luck.
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  Speaker 1: They all deserve to be spared from that. And this
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  Speaker 1: is one of those maddening cases where it should have
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  Speaker 1: never happened for sure. There's no rhyme or reason to this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no justification. There's no, oh, well, you wronged me.
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  Speaker 1: This is just some disgusting madman doing what he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do with no care about anybody else. And if
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  Speaker 1: Brian Koberger is that guy, then he certainly deserves to
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  Speaker 1: face a firing squad, lethal injection, or, if we were lucky,
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  Speaker 1: a volcano. Because anybody... who is capable of doing what
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  Speaker 1: was done at that house in the early morning hours
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  Speaker 1: of November 13th, deserves to be put to death. Mortensen
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  Speaker 1: told police that she stood in a frozen shock phase
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  Speaker 1: as a figure clad in black clothing and a mask
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  Speaker 1: walked towards her, then towards the back sliding glass door
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  Speaker 1: and left the house. She then locked herself in her
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  Speaker 1: room and did not emerge until the next morning. Mortensen
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  Speaker 1: and Bethany Funk, the other roommate who survived the attacks,
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  Speaker 1: did not call police until noon the next day, which
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  Speaker 1: has given rise to online trolls attacking Mortensen and Funk
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  Speaker 1: and claiming that they were involved in the murders. In
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  Speaker 1: the direct aftermath, when this was all going down and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have any information, that's certainly a logical stance
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  Speaker 1: to take, right? Did these girls have something to do
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  Speaker 1: with this? I certainly had my questions about what happened.
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  Speaker 1: But as the investigation has moved forward, and especially as
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  Speaker 1: the court documents have begun to drop, We haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: one single thing about co-defendants. We haven't seen anything about
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  Speaker 1: the roommates being involved, anyone else being involved. So all
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  Speaker 1: of that is nothing more than innuendo and a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of online nonsense. You never really think about online backlash
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  Speaker 1: and trolls until you deal with it, and it's just
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  Speaker 1: a really hurtful thing, Monroe said. People online are ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And people online have also gotten real comfortable saying things
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  Speaker 1: to people that they would never say in person. And
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  Speaker 1: social media, and especially places like Twitter or X or
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  Speaker 1: whatever you call it, is overrun by a bunch of dum-dums.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's the truth. I
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  Speaker 1: challenge anyone to be in a position where they wake
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  Speaker 1: up to four of their roommates gone and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not even realizing it. People have to understand, these children
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  Speaker 1: are very young. You know, they're just young kids. And
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  Speaker 1: it's just a really traumatizing thing. I just think that
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  Speaker 1: people need to have some compassion. Probably a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, you don't have to like these girls.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to agree with the way they conducted themselves.
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  Speaker 1: But does that give people free reign just to go
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  Speaker 1: around and talk about whatever they want? She was involved
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  Speaker 1: in this. She was involved in that. She murdered this one.
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  Speaker 1: She murdered that one. Did people not learn a lesson
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  Speaker 1: from the TikTok tarot card reader? That's getting the shit
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  Speaker 1: sued out of her right now by Rebecca Schofield. Because
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  Speaker 1: that's certainly in the cards for some dum-dums out there.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you don't have the goods to back up
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  Speaker 1: the bullshit you're saying, you're going to get sued. Point blank, period.
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  Speaker 1: There needs to be space and time for all the
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  Speaker 1: details to come out in trial. That's what I'm waiting for.
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  Speaker 1: Once we get all the details, then I'll have some
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  Speaker 1: criticism maybe if things are funky. But as of now,
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  Speaker 1: we have no idea what happened in that house besides
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  Speaker 1: what was in the affidavit. And according to that affidavit,
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  Speaker 1: there's only one person responsible for what happened here, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not Bethany Funk, and it's certainly not Dylan Mortensen.
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  Speaker 1: Mortensen's father, Brent, told author and private investigator, J. Reuben Appelman,
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  Speaker 1: that she was isolating herself and playing video games to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the stress. Appelman told News Nation in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning weeks after those homicides, she was basically dogpiled on
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  Speaker 1: on social media. This was part of the trauma that
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  Speaker 1: she experienced. Dillon herself has retreated from the public eye.
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  Speaker 1: Very few people see her. Mortensen's father told Appelman that
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  Speaker 1: his daughter is in the process of healing despite being
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  Speaker 1: hounded by bullies. She is in trauma therapy of sorts.
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  Speaker 1: She's getting help from the spiritual community, he said. isolating herself,
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  Speaker 1: but she is stepping out a little bit at a time.
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  Speaker 1: She is gaming online with peers in group gaming sessions.
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  Speaker 1: She is doing what she can without going into public.
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  Speaker 1: So she should never go out in public again? Is
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  Speaker 1: that what people think? This kid should just stay home
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  Speaker 1: all day every day like she's Prince Andrew or something?
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  Speaker 1: That's just ridiculous. And anybody who takes that kind of
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  Speaker 1: stance here is being absurd. And I have a sneaking
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  Speaker 1: suspicion that Once this trial starts and we start getting
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  Speaker 1: some more details here, a lot of these goofballs are
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  Speaker 1: going to be exposed for being exactly that. Goofballs. The
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  Speaker 1: sad thing is, though, it won't matter. People will continue
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  Speaker 1: sucking down their content. People will continue listening to the
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  Speaker 1: bullshit that they're pitching. And the misinformation and the nonsense
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  Speaker 1: will continue to grow. And one of the main reasons
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  Speaker 1: that that's able to happen is because the gag order
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  Speaker 1: provides fertile ground for bullshit to sprout up. So how
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  Speaker 1: do you combat that? The easiest way and the only
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  Speaker 1: way right now is to go through those court documents.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why we continue diving into those court documents.
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  Speaker 1: That's why we continue climbing up that mountain. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why we'll continue to do so until the trial gets here.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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