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• FiFi: well, by the time this comes out, I will be at the hospital ripping a baby out of my wife. Graywo1f: boy. SCUD: You're gonna rip the baby out? FiFi: So I'm personally well, no, I'm gonna be in the room though, and I'm gonna make sure I don't look this time. So last time last time like with the last kid, it was a C-section, and they're like, hey, whatever you do, don't look and make sure you turn left when after you cut the umbilical cord. And I did not do that. And curiosity got me, and the anesthesiologist had to wheel a chair up underneath my butt before SCUD: Ha ha ha ha. FiFi: before I hit the ground. So Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I'm the I am 100% the opposite. I'm like, yo, ground zero, let's go. There's a baby in there, guys. FiFi: Yeah. No. My wife would like to laugh at me. Cause you know, cause you know how they're awake. Like they're like they keep them awake during this during an operation. So I'm like sitting up there by her head and like they're tugging the child out of her and she's like bouncing around like this as they're tugging. And I'm already queasy because of that. And then she's like so, you know, numbed up. And she's looking at me, she's like, Are you okay? You look a little pale. Like my wife is like Graywo1f: you FiFi: talking to me through the C-section. And I was like SCUD: Somebody give this man an epidural. FiFi: Yeah, I was like it was anyways. So anyways, by the time this comes out, I'll be right in the middle of doing all that. So wish me luck. Yeah, don't don't pass out. SCUD: Congratulation messages. Type them out in the chat. Welcome to I Alpha Ligans, everybody. Graywo1f: Yes. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Pee pee? SCUD: Fifi. I'm gonna say Fifi passes out and I I did say Pee Pee. I'm gonna refer to him as Pee-Pee from the rest of this episode. Welcome to High Vulligans. FiFi: B P fast is that? Jimmmmmmmy: Pee fee, keepe. New new new call sign. Keefe. Graywo1f: style renaming. SCUD: I'm Scud. We've got Jimmy Chaos, we've got Grey Wolf, and as always we've got Pee-Pee. FiFi: Okay. Graywo1f: you Jimmmmmmmy: Pretty sure you said P fee. SCUD: Peefee. Papa Peefey. Jimmmmmmmy: There we go, pop. I I can't do it. That's a tongue twister, dude. Graywo1f: Papa Palpatine. SCUD: This episode is gonna be user. Graywo1f: Hey, Pepe. Jimmmmmmmy: Ha ha. SCUD: This episode's users Graywo1f: Hey, peepee. SCUD: questions from the from the audience. That's what we're what's what we've got. We're gonna answer questions from the audience. if you want to participate in future questions from the audience, then join our Discord, which is where we we farm these questions from. First, thanks to our sponsor, Jimmmmmmmy: Diligently. SCUD: Fox Remanaged Solutions. If you need a server, hit them up. Use the what is the checkout code for Fox Tree? Hooligans twenty five, twenty-six. Jimmmmmmmy: Hooligans. Hooligans. SCUD: Hooligans. you get a discount for the life of your server. Also our partners, Eagle Dynamics. Heat blur in the house. Toby I track, Jimmmmmmmy: Win control. SCUD: wind control, Pimax. We just it we FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: just need to have something we play at the beginning to cover all this stuff. So I don't fumble through it every single time. It's like me, I Graywo1f: or know the designs? FiFi: We do. SCUD: fumble through this at the beginning and then Jimmy's always like caught off guard by dad advice at the end. We need to bookend the episodes with some shit that just covers that for us. Jimmmmmmmy: Joe Grinnelli. SCUD: Grinelli designs, yes. See if that that was up there. yeah. Flight Sim Expo. See, I could just read all that stuff. There Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh, Evan. SCUD: we go. FiFi: just put it up. I gotta I gotta swap out I gotta swap out the before I put this up I need to swap out the Fox 3 logo. But Jimmmmmmmy: Yes, you do. FiFi: because it's a new one. And I have them. I just need to do it. I'm sorry luck. I'm saying this right now. I'm sorry. I'm gonna swap all the stuff out. I promise SCUD: All right. Before we jump into the episode, a few other things. new campaign live on the Hooligans World Tour servers. Jimmy, you wanna tell what the new campaign consists of? Jimmmmmmmy: Whole lot of fun. FiFi: Yeah. Basically we Yeah, basically we SCUD: There you go. That's all you need to know. Jimmmmmmmy: No, FiFi: made a promise that Jimmy has to upkeep and he's doing his best. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, so it is based on Leka's foothold. really awesome work, lots of functionality, and we really wanted to do something that was like end of World War II, beginning of Korean War, so that we could have, you know, first gen jets with, you know, the prop fighters. But it's kind of hard. Like that's a unique period. but so what it is is End World War Two to the beginning of Vietnam. So it's a a little bit of a a range. But if you're in there and you wanna run a prop fighter, you can get your AI escorts. So it balances out a little bit. But they willn't they will only engage air to air. SCUD: All right. So we've got some World War II fighters mixing it up with some Korean war fighters like the MiG-15 F eighty six, a couple very early Vietnam era aircraft, and somewhat appropriate threats to try to model it a little. Jimmmmmmmy: A lot of w Yeah. SCUD: So you're not gonna see Sams, right? You're not gonna have missiles shooting up a shoot, but a lot of triple A and ground fire. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Black. Yeah. Graywo1f: That's a whole lot of Dealing with flak. Jimmmmmmmy: You didn't. FiFi: It's gonna be it's I I'm excited to get into it. Is the C one thirty in there? Jimmmmmmmy: Uh-huh. SCUD: It is. FiFi: Yes. Okay, I'm in. SCUD: Even though it's a J. FiFi: Yeah, well you gotta do what you gotta do. Jimmmmmmmy: Simul s simulated D. FiFi: Yeah, simulate e model. Yeah. SCUD: Also, if you haven't gone to our channel and and and watched the the most recent cinematic, please go watch that and give it a like. also Fifi has a shout out for one of his his favorite creators. FiFi: So okay, we gotta tell like the quick story about it. But basically, SCUD: Go ahead. FiFi: a guy named Flying Psyching. I've been using like I've been commenting on his stuff from like my personal account, not from the high-up hooligans account. I think I did maybe once from the Hooligans account. But long story short, he makes some really cool single player missions and campaigns. And and probably and you can adapt them to be group campaigns and missions. But I use like his C130 Cola sandbox, which is a lot of fun because it's like a cargo sandbox and he just generates really random cargo missions. You have to go taxi to a specific spot and pick up cargo that's already generated. It's a really cool set of things. If you have a C 130 squadron, you can also add more C130s into it so everybody can fly and do it. but he's he's a longtime listener and he came forward and asked us for some collaboration and we'll leave that we'll leave the announcement to him to make because I think it's really cool. But just look for him look for his products. His stuff is really good. He's constantly updating them. All this stuff is free. so definitely like give him a shout out. I just want to give him a shout out because he's super cool dude. Yep. And in the SCUD: Yeah, flying psyching on YouTube. in addition to the sandbox, he has a Foldegap A ten campaign. He has a Huey in Lebanon, like UN campaign, and an F4 Northern Defense. He's got a a bunch of different products he's put out for DCS, which is we talk about this a lot, like the game Doesn't give us content. It gives us the tools to make content and we need people to make fun stuff. So here's an option FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: for you to go find some cool stuff to do. FiFi: And and all his stuff is free. he just does it for the love of the game. So go check it out. It's really cool. You can find him on the you can also find him on the on the forums and and the official stuff. SCUD: Yeah. Grey Wolf, are you live right now or are you just is that just a background? Graywo1f: Just the background, I didn't have time to jump in. I guess I could have. SCUD: Didn't log on. Jimmmmmmmy: It's just a background boat living Graywo1f: Hmm FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: Ha ha ha. Jimmmmmmmy: in a lonely podcast. FiFi: Ocean? Graywo1f: I could hop on. SCUD: Nah, it's just I just want to know if we could expect, FiFi: It's all good. Graywo1f: Explosions. SCUD: you know, somebody to spill your coffee because you knew you want some butts and shit like that. FiFi: The shenanigans SCUD: and then if if FiFi: R I P Jester. SCUD: you if you guys haven't noticed, all of our teasing about us being collectively 40 year old child children that play video games has finally worn Fifi down to the point where he shaved his mustache to try to look younger so he doesn't have to blend in with us. FiFi: It's so I was looking I was looking really rough because I hadn't shaved and and I it all grows in all patchy and redneck So I I was like trying to trim my mustache up and I totally screwed it up and my wife looks over at me and she's like, SCUD: Ha ha ha. FiFi: dude. And I'm like, Is it is it beyond saving? And she's like, It's beyond saving. And I was like, I did it again. So SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: it just all had to go. Don't worry, it'll take another month to grow back in and then we're all good again. So Jimmmmmmmy: I got I got beard covered for all of us. Especially with the new curl dude. Ooh FiFi: I know. I got so much beard empty. Yeah, the curl. I'm s I'm just trying not to look SCUD: Yeah, you do. Graywo1f: Yeah, thank you. FiFi: so jealous. Graywo1f: Hmm SCUD: How do you want to do these questions? Who do you want to read them? FiFi: I think we just start from the stop. I'll read I'll SCUD: Yeah, but who who's who's reading them? Who's who's querying? Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, I like that. FiFi: I'll read it. I put the question out for everybody, so I'll read and we can all talk about So SCUD: Love it. Jimmmmmmmy: Like the questions. FiFi: Yeah, they're really good questions. SCUD: I do too. FiFi: So so what we did, for those of you who did not see, but I across all of our social medias, I you know, I put out, Hey, let's just make this a question for the community, questions for the boys, and everybody responded. It turned the squadron bar into an absolute shit show for a little bit, and Jimmmmmmmy: Yes. FiFi: I don't know what I was expecting, but I should have been expecting that. So thank guys for the entertainment for like a solid day. SCUD: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: And it's and it's the Halloween noises now it's like ooh ooh ooh FiFi: Yes, Halloween noise. Yeah. So SCUD: Ha ha ha. FiFi: thank you guys for that. and girls, because there was a girl who asked who who asked something as well. But and then so we Jimmmmmmmy: There's a girl in there? FiFi: do we just come we took all the questions, compiled them down and we're just gonna answer some of the questions from the community and you know, see what see what it feel what everybody's talking about and then you know we'll give our our measly opinions on it from four old guys that just play video games. So Let's get into it. So, question number one SCUD: Okay. FiFi: if all flight sims disappeared and you still wanted to have a gaming focused channel, what genre would it be about? Graywo1f: Like the High Alpha Hooligans, if that was a gaming channel. FiFi: Yeah, what would what would we be? I'm gonna talk like last, I guess, on this. I'm just gonna let you guys talk 'cause SCUD: Love to say I'd love to say driving, but I'm such shit at driving games. is it is it flight sims or all sims? All flight sims. honestly, FiFi: It's just all flight sims, yeah, that's the question. SCUD: I honestly this is it's tough for me to imagine doing something else because I see all the games I love, I see other creators doing really awesome shit that I know I couldn't compete with. But it would probably be arc raiders and other games like that. And I say that just because there are some really awesome content creators making hilarious content. Clutch Jackson and the high the the hairpin bandit or abstract abstract Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, the hairpin bandit's awesome. SCUD: in the the the where he does his high out or he does his art graders trivia where he downs somebody and then asks them FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: three questions to be revived. There are some really funny creators. I would love to do that if it weren't for Sims. Jimmmmmmmy: I would probably lean on rucking sim. I don't know. FiFi: really was not expecting that answer from you, was Chucking Sim. I SCUD: I kinda was, yeah. FiFi: really? Okay. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. 'Cause it's there's a lot to it 'cause running the garages, running your drivers, maintaining your yard, making sure you have all the trailers to pick up jobs and And they're constantly expanding it. SCUD: It's a great game. Jimmmmmmmy: It is. FiFi: I was a tracker for Living, so SCUD: And it I've I've said this before, it's a very relaxing game until you play it multiplayer with Jimmy. And then FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: it it's it's wreckfest in Big Rigs on the highway. FiFi: Ha ha Graywo1f: Back in the day, I was on my channel, I was massively into Kerbal Space Program and Jimmmmmmmy: yeah, dude. SCUD: Mm. Graywo1f: Arma 2 and Arma 3. That's probably, that's probably FiFi: Yeah. Graywo1f: would be my fall, my fall back. SCUD: Yep. Grey Wolf just wants to make he FiFi: I've never played Triple Space We're gonna. Jimmmmmmmy: Arma's good. SCUD: just wants to make big dick shaped rockets and make content about it. FiFi: It looks like a giant chitson. Graywo1f: I was huge into space planes, just making the planes that could just take off on the runway and just fly right up into orbit. That was a big challenge. That was a lot of fun. FiFi: sense. That's cool. I don't know. SCUD: Fifi. FiFi: For me I Jimmmmmmmy: I FiFi: it's always for me it's always been about community. But yeah, go Jimmy. Jimmmmmmmy: I have a I have a second second reattack. Maybe gray zone. FiFi: Okay. Grey Zone. Right. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: Social Yeah. For me, like it's all it's all been it's always been about community. Like it's just like is anything that I can just do with my my my bros and broettes. Like some of the most fun I've ever Jimmmmmmmy: Tommies. FiFi: had was yeah, was playing like Arc Raiders with you guys and like Bella and you know, having Bella show up is always fun. Like lately I've been playing Arma Reforger Venom for Venom Cinematic. Graywo1f: Nice. FiFi: He's we go on and like he's I think he's filming some stuff in that. So I've been showing up and with that and like yeah, I don't know, just anything that's like social that just hang out. Like it's never been about the game for me, it's always just been about hanging out with people. So it's like it's it's it's SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: the millennial bar, right? 'Cause we don't really go out and drink anymore at bars. Like we all just kinda get online and hang out. So SCUD: Yeah, I like that. I like your comment about community. I think that's another reason why I'd say an arc raiders type thing because of the social interactions that happen. And I just want to say, playing with Bella, I don't know if she listens to the podcast or not, but it changes the dynamic of the game so much. Because FiFi: Okay. SCUD: her voice and the way she talks to hey Raider, like it it disarms every player you come into contact with. FiFi: But SCUD: You could do you could know that these people are hostile and she'd be like, Hey, Raider. And then suddenly they're dropping blueprints for you. And it's like, She did that. We were playing my sister Bella and me were playing. And she she did that voice. And immediately this guy like followed her around and then he kept saying, What do you need? Do you need anything? And she's just restarting her her character. So she she needs everything. And she's talking to him. And then on Discord, when she's not keying the mic to talk to him, she's talking to us. She's like, What do you guys need? He's giving me anything I want. What do you need? FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: She just It was awesome. Jimmmmmmmy: Shopping. FiFi: Yeah. Yeah. And but until she gets downed by somebody and then Bellett turns into the most foul mouthed person I've ever been in my life. Jimmmmmmmy: evil. Yeah. SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: Like it was so it was so good. All right. Next one. This is kind of like starting to get in the technical s this is a good technical question. Do you think countermeasures countermeasures will be reworked in the future and especially the effectiveness of chaff? And I think for the most people, I think we need to I think we need to explain to people how The chaff and flare are coded in the game. So if someone wants to give like an explanation about that first before we talk about the answer. SCUD: Yeah, I can I can jump in on that. and I'm sure Grey Wolf has a lot of insight into this too, maybe. But it in the in FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: the game, I he his screen freezes every once in a while, so does Jimmy, so I can't see their facial expressions. it it's it's it's ones and zeros in the game, right? So when you throw out chaffer flare, it's it's just a code that gives a percentage of whether that's gonna work or not. Just like, you know, it just triggers a a What's the percent that this this confuses a missile or or confuses a radar? and It it's dependent on whether you're in the notch or not, whether that actually affects it. So there's just a couple of variables. That's that's how it works in the game. You throw out chaff and and the game triggers a couple variables to determine what effect it has on either your radar or your weapon. But it's way more in depth in real life. Jimmmmmmmy: It's a good entry SCUD: That what you wanted? Jimmmmmmmy: low it's a good entry simulation. And then the more you use, the higher that percentage goes up. But then, the lower percentage you have, do you have any left? SCUD: So and and in DCS, as it is in real life, right, countermeasures don't save you. Countermeasures buy you time to maneuver. And maneuvering is gonna be your best bet for survival. To contrast that with real life, this chaff particularly, without getting super deep in the weeds. Like when you chaff in DCS, it it's there for like, I don't know, five seconds, and then it and then Graywo1f: Mm-hmm. SCUD: it's gone. And in that few seconds, there's a variable whether or not it will confuse your missile or your radar. Like chaff doesn't disappear in five seconds. Chaff hangs out in the sky for an hour. And it slowly spreads out and becomes this giant cloud. And that definitely doesn't happen in DCS. so you still have to maneuver, but yeah, I think I think it's not it's not realistic. It's not long lasting. It's it it it it it's just it's just this brief moment of maybe this'll help me, maybe it's not, but it doesn't behave the way it should, I don't think. Jimmmmmmmy: I think f I think flares are better represented in DCS than chaff. You think? FiFi: Yeah, well I'm gonna let Grayson Gre Greywolf talk. SCUD: With within within the Graywo1f: It's probably, SCUD: the bounds of what they're allowed Graywo1f: yeah, yeah, SCUD: to do, yeah. Graywo1f: it's probably easier. Flares are maybe a bit easier because it's just heat and aspect as opposed to getting into radar theory. SCUD: Yeah, I think I Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: think they're probably better represented because flares are a short lived thing. It's a moment of hot energy to distract a heat seeking missile. The chaff does in real life it hangs out. And and if you put a lot of chaff out, it can screw up a radar picture quite quite a bit. We never see that. You never see a lot of chaff pop out in the game and then see a cloud on your radar, depending Jimmmmmmmy: Get returns. SCUD: on the radar you're using, 'cause some radars can weed through the chaff and some can't. Depends on Graywo1f: Yeah, that'd be fascinating to get chaff returns on the raw scope. That'd be pretty cool. SCUD: Yeah. There there's a I I should try to find it and share it later when when I have a minute. the B fifty-two we carried a lot of chaff and flare. our flares were in a horrible position. They're in the horizontal stab on the tail. So not anywhere near the engines, but that's like if we're flaring, it's like Graywo1f: You SCUD: a hell merry pass to maybe survive. But the chaff, it it dispenses out the bottom of the wing between the engine pods. So that chaff immediately dispenses into that turbulent air right behind the engines Graywo1f: hits the airflow, yeah. SCUD: and just clouds out. And and there have been a few times where pilots have inadvertently chaffed when they were not supposed to and have like shut down ATC radar for a while. And there's a picture of like, I don't remember, I think it's Dallas where there was chaff put out. And you you can see the radar picture and like a huge chunk of Dallas is just a big blob and it just like ATC can't track any airplanes. Radar's gone. It's just It does a lot more in real life to the radar than it does in DCS. To answer the question, what was the question? Do we we hope they're gonna Graywo1f: Maybe we think it'll be reworked. SCUD: I hope it will, but Graywo1f: have no idea. SCUD: I have no idea. Jimmmmmmmy: I feel like that's for FiFi: Simples. Jimmmmmmmy: what the player base wants though, that's probably low hanging fruit for development priorities. FiFi: Yep. SCUD: I think that also goes hand in hand with the the whole EW spectrum. the whole electronic warfare spectrum is is very under represented in DCS. FiFi: Well, it's hard to represent anyways though, because a lot of the things that make electron electronic warfare, electronic warfare is top secret. So getting getting that. SCUD: Yeah, exactly. It's w within the bounds of what they can do. FiFi: Hot take. Hot take. I think the countermeasures actually work pretty well. I think players just suck it and they don't use it properly. So you can't you can't be you can't turn you can't turn directly away from a heat-seeking missile, pop go full burner and then pop a couple flares and think that it's supposed SCUD: Ha ha. FiFi: to bite off on the flares. Like that right. Jimmmmmmmy: You're what do you mean you're still the hottest thing in the sky? Graywo1f: Yeah. FiFi: Or that and you know, people think that they're cranking and you know, like, you know, when they're like, but I'm in the notch. I'm like, just because in the in in the y-axis, yes, you you might have the missile perpendicular. Off your on the y-axis, but that missile's also high coming down on you, and you're not presenting your wing or you know, that that small side profile to the missile. So not only do you need to turn away from the missile, but you also need to make sure that you're actually, you know, have an idea about where the missile's coming down on you from, because it might still be looking at the top side of your aircraft, giving a bigger return than the chaff is. So I think players aren't thinking about the geometry. Of it as much as they should. And honestly, you have to use it properly. I'm not gonna give away my secret about how I chaff and flare because it really works. And there's plenty of documented evidence of me just dodging the shit out of all sorts of stuff. But you know, it you know, I can I can I am confident enough to SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: say that I have gone up against an SA 11 with a C 130 and won because I know how to play the game. It wasn't it was a 10. Sorry, it was a 10, Jimmmmmmmy: It was it was a ten. It was ten it was it was ten, yeah. FiFi: but and one because I know how to play. the game with Chapin Flag. So it's not it's not DCS's fault. It's your fault, players. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Yeah. The I think the biggest SCUD: Yeah. It if Go ahead. Jimmmmmmmy: Biggest thing that people FiFi: Yeah, okay. Jimmmmmmmy: understand is energy management and conceptualizing the energy that the munition has and how to bleed that energy. Cause you can if you know where it's coming from, the range, you don't even have to defend yourself with countermeasures, you just Graywo1f: Mm-hmm. Jimmmmmmmy: point to nose, point to nose, point to nose. Ha ha loser. Graywo1f: Yeah, that's one of the things I was going to say as well. SCUD: I was gonna that's the same thing I was gonna say. Yeah, you have to you have to outmaneuver the the well, one, you have to be in a position where you can outmaneuver the missile. And Jimmmmmmmy: The five D's? SCUD: then then you have to outmaneuver the missile. You cannot FiFi: The practice of that's wrong. SCUD: just pop chaff and flare and expect that to save you. You you and and and when you're out of chaff and you're out of flare, you can still defeat missiles if you're playing the game right and you're you're at an appropriate range. It's not those aren't gonna save you, they're just gonna help you. Chaff should do a lot more to confuse the missile, but it in the game now. It's it's still it's upon the pilot to do that. And and no matter how much you think you know what you're doing, Grey Wolf will still put a Phoenix up your ass when you're not expecting it. Graywo1f: you Jimmmmmmmy: Actually, the five D's of dodgeball are actually pretty applicable defending yourself in DCS. FiFi: There's no five D's of dog fighting. Jimmy's five D's of dog fighting. Graywo1f: Yeah, whatever they are, Dodd. SCUD: Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and Jimmmmmmmy: Dive or dodge, dive, dip. SCUD: dodge. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah, that's that's legit. Yeah. All right. Next question while we keep going, because we got 18 questions. Ne question Jimmmmmmmy: I like that one. SCUD: That's good. FiFi: number three. Next question. Do you guys think Eagodamic Dynamics will implement an anti-cheat system for multiplayer? Now, again, we're gonna copy out this one for everybody. Without giving away secrets about how DCS and Ego Dynamics actually combats cheating in multiplayer, we're gonna go we'll do what we can to talk about this without giving away how it's done. So Keep that in mind, everybody. Go. SCUD: Well, first off, we have to we have to define FiFi: Mm-hmm. SCUD: what this question might be asking, right? 'Cause there's there's people that say somebody's cheating 'cause they're stream sniping. Well, that's you're you're putting it out there, right? They're just playing the game, It's it's that's counterintelligence. That's that's PsyOps or not Psyops, it's c it's counterintelligible. or, you know, F five views in a dog fight. Like then turn them off in your server, right? That's fine. I don't I don't think that's necessarily cheating, cheating, but like I was talking to Greywolf about this before the episode, and he was talking about people writing code that injects stuff that is not found by the the integrity check that modifies what's happening in the game. That I think is what this question's talking about. And I I hope Eagle Dynamics will do something to counter that because I mean that's every every game has people that are going to aimbot and do look through wall cheats and they people buy this. I'm not saying this happens in DCS. I'm just saying in the gaming world for Call of Duty and other games, people people go online and buy software that will backdoor in and cheat for them. it's it's part of the gaming world. I I think that I don't think it's as prominent in DCS. At least I I haven't seen it. But any game that doesn't combat that and figure out a way to stop it is going to start losing player base. So I just hope Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. I don't SCUD: it doesn't become a big deal. Jimmmmmmmy: don't think it's super prevalent because a lot of people are in DCS for the realism. And then when you, bend the rules of the game to make it, you know, easier, that's not really the experience that most people are looking for. SCUD: No, it's it's never most people. It's that it's that that special Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. One percent. SCUD: few that just wanna jump in and you know, the people that do that, the people that are using cheats in the game are are the same kind of people that if they could teabag you after you get blown up, they would teabag you with their jet. Like that's they're it's the few assholes that do that. Jimmmmmmmy: Is that dropping Graywo1f: Yeah, pretty. Jimmmmmmmy: the hook? FiFi: He needs to tell the kid. SCUD: No, no Graywo1f: Yeah, pretty small subset of all the servers that are out there and of all the groups that are flying co-op missions together. Yeah, as far as like an actual problem, problem, it's a pretty small chance you're going to run into it. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. I'm sure you've seen it more, Grey Wolf, but I think in the two years that we've had our servers, we've only seen it twice, I think. Graywo1f: Yeah, as far as true cheating cheating where they aircraft were like firing weapons that were very much not ever Jimmmmmmmy: Wrong. Graywo1f: intended to be an aircraft, a weapon on an aircraft was probably only twice. The rest are just like weapons modifications of sorts. FiFi: Yeah. So there it is. A lot of times I think people confuse cheating with just people using game enhancement mods, what people think they're, you know, they're doing for you know, for this and that. So I like like you guys said, like I've only seen cheating like maybe once or twice. And it wasn't and even then it wasn't cheating. Like there was somebody who showed up with the op wags shooting like aim two sixties or whatever. Graywo1f: Mm-hmm. FiFi: And then we caught that pretty quickly because people are just randomly exploding without any sort of warnings and stuff. But And e again that I it it was just a bad mod. It wasn't even like cheating it per se. So I think I think yeah. No, SCUD: To answer the question, go I'm sorry, I thought you were done. FiFi: I was gonna say I think we just gotta define I think I think everybody has a different definition of cheating in that sense. So SCUD: To address the actual question, do we think ED will implement anti-cheat stuff? At at this point, probably not, because it's not very prevalent. But it they're not gonna FiFi: I that's what integrity check is for. SCUD: Yeah, but there's bad there's ways around that and that people are using. I think if it becomes a big problem, then I think they have no option but to try to figure out how to combat it. Jimmmmmmmy: Think and then FiFi: That's good. Jimmmmmmmy: if you're in an environment where that is a problem, look at SFL or maybe the old racing that Grinnelli used to do, they do have their own proprietary add-ons that they use to keep everybody on honest. So if you're hosting that environment, that's something part of the process FiFi: Right. Jimmmmmmmy: that you take on when you host that. Same that same as we did when we did op wags, you FiFi: Yeah, that's that's that's the answer. So pretty satisfied with that. We'll move on. well, here it goes. Here here here here starts the questions from from from the from the peanut gallery. Do you kiss SCUD: Ha ha. FiFi: the homies good night after a podcast ends? Yeah, always. Jimmmmmmmy: Always SCUD: E i every night. Not just when the podcast ends. FiFi: Yeah, it's true. And Harper has become Yeah. SCUD: I text I'll text Fifi like feet picks every night. Jimmmmmmmy: It mo more so more so when we're actually together too. That's FiFi: So okay. Jimmmmmmmy: some that's some romantial situations. dude. God and I had Sim Gaming Scud and I FiFi: I will throw it out there. Jimmy is the best hugger. He you you give the greatest hugs. SCUD: What were you gonna say about Sorry, go ahead. Jimmmmmmmy: at Sim Gaming Expo, we get in the in the elevators. God's like, man, you you're looking good. I'm like, bro, you are fucking smoking. And there's SCUD: Ha ha. Jimmmmmmmy: some some random some random lady who's on there with us is like, what the fuck? SCUD: You were gonna say something about Harper, Fifi. FiFi: yeah, no, Harper whenever Harper's on and whenever anybody's about to jump off, he says love you and you have to say it back or else he will yell at you. And Yeah, yeah, if you don't say it back. Jimmmmmmmy: Love you, say it back. SCUD: he gets mad if you don't say it back. In fact, he yeah, he does. He just immediately yells, say it back. He also has this weird propensity of sending me pictures of just his face, but he always sends me pictures every time he takes a shower, he'll take a selfie of his dripping water in his face and send it to me. Graywo1f: Ha ha ha ha ha. FiFi: Yeah, it's true. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I got a pretty good gallery on my birthday. SCUD: We didn't mention that when he was on the last episode. We should have mentioned that. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: Shout out to Harper and his shower picks. FiFi: Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. Scud scud feet story time real quick. No, like it's it's it's fun because we're all logged into the like the same account for the Hooligans account and stuff like that. And so like it's it's guaranteed a couple times a month, one of us accidentally logs ourselves out of it, just swapping between like personal accounts and the hooligans accounts stuff like that. And so it all like our we all our phones always get the notification when someone's trying to log back in. So we always have to approve it for each other to log in. And Scud texted me and he was like, Hey, you know, can you approve my my login back into the account? And normally you can see like where it's being logged in from. So I know like I know roughly I'm like, okay, so it's probably Scud logging in because it says, you know, it's from, his hometown or, you know, Jimmy and somewhere somewhere. But sometimes, you know, we like to mess each other. So I told Scud, I was like, Yeah I I don't do this shit for free anymore. You gotta send me feet pics. And he actually sent me a foot a picture of his foot. SCUD: He wrote, feet picks, I don't work for free, let me see them tosies. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: He actually sent a picture of his foot. So so yeah, to answer the question, we do. We we proclaim our love for each other all the time. In between arguing with each other, we proclaim our love for each other. So SCUD: Valid. Graywo1f: Yin and Yang. FiFi: yeah, next question. Simon from DCS recently did an interview with hip games and was asked, how many modules can you step into and be 80% proficient? So I guess that's a good question for us. Graywo1f: Mmm. FiFi: Like, how many modules can you jump into and be 80% proficient in? Jimmmmmmmy: was I was actually thinking about this when I saw the question pop up. I was like, that's a good question. And I think I have two that I'm 80% or maybe maybe three with war words included. But it's really however much you invest and how much you want. Because you look at Harper, Harper is the master of all of them, down to every detail and system. And then there's me SCUD: Yeah, isso. Jimmmmmmmy: and I've got like my main three and then the rest of them, you know I I need a kneeboard. I literally have kneeboard saved to be like, where's my where's my start sequence? where's this kneeboard? it's it's all in what you FiFi: What are your three? Jimmmmmmmy: put into so definitely the Hornet, the Spitfire and the Apache. FiFi: Pretty good. It's a good it's a good combo. Jimmmmmmmy: Well pro probably the one also. That one's pretty easy. Graywo1f: What's What's yours? Jimmmmmmmy: Well actually ma maybe maybe just every NATO war bird, because I can fly the I can fly the wings off all those, I think. But those are easy. SCUD: All the war birds I would say I'm eighty percent proficient in. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: although I don't know that I could cold start the LA seven because it's been a minute and that one's like Jimmmmmmmy: that's hard. SCUD: freaking it's like diving in a World War Two submarine. Spin this knob, spin that knob, twist this valve, it's it's complicated. Jimmmmmmmy: Turn your arrow on. Turn your arrow off. SCUD: The same thing with the exception of like cold starting the the hip. I'd say probably all the helicopters, but I don't have the Kioa. But I mean when I say when I think proficient, I think like I can I can manage the airplane and employ weapons, right? and I can do that in all the helicopters. and then the Hornet and the F one hundred. Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh, yeah, F one hundred. SCUD: I could confidently get in those and and and the F5. I could confidently get in those, get them, get them off the ground and go go fight. the the hard part for me is is fourth gen. It's cause there's so much intricate computer submenus and and it's not just flip a switch to arm a pylon. So like I like when I jump into Viper or the Harrier or any of the any of the fourth gen jets or the Tomcat or the Phantom, which are Both incredible. I'm I'm always like immediately sitting there looking and I don't remember how to turn any of this stuff on and so yeah helicopters and warbirds and then yeah the hornet and the fan and the hun. Jimmmmmmmy: I forgot about the Hun Nut. That's a good one. Good caveat. Same for me. FiFi: Great. SCUD: But that's just 'cause FiFi: Well SCUD: we'd spent so much time testing it too. we we had to invest a massive amount of time. Graywo1f: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah. That's true. Jimmmmmmmy: Was the only thing I flew for six months just out of love for the module too. FiFi: Yeah, it's still a great module. Graywo1f: Yeah, for me it's probably K-50 because that was the first ever super clickable A-10 and then P-51, Jimmmmmmmy: Are you any good with the Tomcat? Graywo1f: the Tomcat and the Viper. I love the Viper. The F4 Phantom. I can fly the absolute crap out of the hip, but I've just honestly never bothered to learn to start up. just auto start and then, but everything else I need, just know where it is. Yes. SCUD: Harper has a great video that will show you how to start the hip. FiFi: Yeah, let's start the every It's so good. Graywo1f: But this fucking thing, this fucking thing. All these switches right here. Love it. SCUD: Okay. Jimmmmmmmy: I like when SCUD: Fuel Jimmmmmmmy: he when he I love SCUD: cock Jimmmmmmmy: when he's like, I don't care what anybody else says, just hit all. FiFi: Those are good. Those Graywo1f: Yeah. FiFi: are good. SCUD: You said the A ten, that one, Jimmmmmmmy: Hard. SCUD: just the hotas buttons. I it takes me so many sorties to remember how to run all the hotas buttons. Graywo1f: Those are like riding a bike for me. I mean, it's, just instantly do it. Even if I haven't flown it for two years, it's, it's wild. Cause I've flown the crap out of that thing when it was like the only. FiFi: That's fair. Jimmmmmmmy: My hardest my hardest thing with the with the warthog, I can get in there if I have like somebody who can like walk me through it. I can pick it up pretty easy. But the one struggle I always have is to turn that spee into a birthday cake. Graywo1f: Hmm, yep. SCUD: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: That is like that is my Achilles heels. my God, boats with China hat. I don't remember the sequence. Graywo1f: Mm-hmm. FiFi: Yeah, that's fair. Hog drivers. SCUD: What are yours, Fifi? FiFi: I only have a couple really, the Hornet, obviously, 'cause we've we spent so much time in the Hornet. I that thing front Jimmmmmmmy: Mm-hmm. FiFi: I'd I I'm gonna my my final my final words on the on my deathbed are gonna be battery, APU, engine start, MFDs. Like it's you know, but that, of course the one thirty. SCUD: It's funny because the the last thing the last thing that you say before my grave comes up is two's visual. Graywo1f: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. FiFi: Get used visual. I'm on your wing. But yeah, Hornet. And then obviously the C one thirty. just because it's my favorite module and I'm always in that thing. the P51 and the Mozzie. Those are the only ones I've like pretty confident in. So and the Mosquito's kind of difficult. especially when you're starting it up, 'cause it if it's cold, it like, you know, you have to sit there on that boost and the engine start like cranking it forever. But But yeah, I I think those would be my my four that I could do with with confidence. Anything else, probably not. It's been too long. Jimmmmmmmy: Maybe SCUD: It doesn't matter what we're doing. It doesn't matter what Fifi's doing. If he if he's like, I can't fly tonight and we and we just whisper Moz Mozie, mosquito. He'll he all of a sudden you hear the Discord ding. Fifi's there. FiFi: I've been playing Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh. FiFi: I've been flying the P51 Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh. FiFi: a lot more lately though. but yeah, I I do I we need to get Dampy back around and hit put his mission up so I can do more mosquito stuff. Because Dampy's SCUD: Yes. FiFi: Dampy's mission is like built his the way his little mission set works Jimmmmmmmy: Mosquito. FiFi: is built for the mosquito. it's so good. So anyways, next Do you meow on Unicom or is that reserved for the ground crew? Graywo1f: Definitely great flag tech. Or, or, FiFi: Ha ha ha. Graywo1f: God I'm brain farting. Guard, yes that's the word, guard as a Rohito. SCUD: No, I don't meow on on the radios. There I I tried FiFi: I I really don't either. SCUD: it once in DCS and and the real the real pilot part of my brain smacked the shit out of me before I even got finished saying that one word. Graywo1f: You FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, I'm pretty hard coded for behaving on a radio. That's that's FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: over twenty years of, radio discipline. FiFi: Yeah, agreed. So that's a pretty quick one. All SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: right. Here's a good one. Here's a good one. How have your E D wish lists evolved over the years? When you first started, you might have wanted certain features, but now with more time in the seat, what do you really want to see implemented that hasn't that hasn't received much attention? Graywo1f: yeah i have one right Jimmmmmmmy: That's an easy Graywo1f: now i have one right off the bat Jimmmmmmmy: I have two right SCUD: Go for it. Jimmmmmmmy: off the bat. Yeah, you go FiFi: Yep, yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: gray. Graywo1f: replay system. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: Yes, that's exactly what I was gonna say. Graywo1f: It's... it's... it is actively preventing so many people from making content and making videos and I... I just, please, I would love a better replay system. FiFi: Yeah, that's a good one. That's like I think yeah, that's one probably for everybody. I think you speak to so many souls with that. Jimmy, what's your two? I know you were pretty instant with it. Jimmmmmmmy: Control Z in mission editor, undo. FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: And then either a lightning or a fortress. FiFi: man, this started such a really good conversation. I can't wait for Scud to jump in on that. That's the Fortress. 'cause I like we had a really good conversation on SCUD: Well I was I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna I can. FiFi: the Discord about it. SCUD: If if you want me to throw my opinion on it, I can. FiFi: it's podcast. The people people are here to listen to us rant. SCUD: I hear I I love the B-17. I love it. I played old B-17 games that are so much fun, but they were built around that. I think that I hear a lot of people say they want to see a B-17. I think it would die as a module in DCS because it is a it Graywo1f: the amount of stuff you have to go into it. SCUD: is a level flight bomber that drops bombs in formations of like 20 to 80 bombers. And you're not gonna get. 20 people flying with you, so it's gonna be all AI wingman, that that's gonna be a nightmare. And and it's just fly in a straight line over a target and drop a bomb. I think Jimmmmmmmy: It's my wish list. SCUD: I know, I know. I I think FiFi: Ha ha ha. SCUD: that I think we need a multi-crew bomber in DCS. I think a B twenty five, and it's not even my first pick, but I think that would be the best suited because it can level flight bomb, put a glass nose on it. If you fully implement the Norden bomb site and make it so you have to spin that thing up and get it working real, that would be awesome. But it can also put a gun nose on it and you can stray targets and do diving attacks so you're not just doing level flight. It's much more well suited to go out in formations of two or three instead of twenty or forty or sixty. And you still get two pilots, you still get possibly bombardier, you get tail gunner, waist gunners, maybe a top turret gunner depending on the model. And it also flew operationally with a seventy five howitzer in the nose to go punch holes in warships. So I think I'd love to see B seventeen. I hope that whoever builds a World War Two bomber doesn't go down that road because I think that there's other options that will be way better to implement. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, that's fair. Can I have my lightning at least? FiFi: Yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent. The P thirty eight, yeah. Graywo1f: Which lightning? The P38? Yeah, Jimmmmmmmy: Well thank you, Dad. Yeah, P thirty eight. SCUD: the P thirty eight. my gosh, please. Graywo1f: yeah. That'd be so cool. That was a monster in that thing. In aisle two. Let's see if he's... FiFi: Absolutely. No question. Resounding resounding yes from everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Well Scott, do you have do you have yours? SCUD: Mine was the replay system. And FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: I don't even need them to revamp the whole thing. I just want them to be able to have it index the all the data points so that I can rewind it thirty seconds. FiFi: I I am going to say A form of and man, I'm waiting for the angry comments on this one. Sharko's gonna own me. A form of maybe an AI assistant built into mission editor to help you get through building scripting and things like that in the mission editor for people like me who are too stupid to try to under to understand and don't have the patience to understand like the in-depth the depths of the mission editor. Like it would be really cool. For people, because I have tons of awesome mission ideas sitting in the back of my head. But I and I every time I try to sit in the mission editor, 10 minutes in, I am like giving up on life because I I just cannot do it. And I don't speak about them because I hate throwing like I like the one thing that I know that I I should I I cannot do anymore is like I hate going to Jimmy and be like, Jimmy, I have a really great idea for a mission. You should totally make it. Like SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: because he's like, dude, do you know how much time it takes to do that? I'm like, yeah, that's why I don't do it. So I think yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: It is it is a passion that you have to have to build stuff in Mission Editor. FiFi: Yeah, so some form of 'cause we have cool stuff like the retribution like retribution tool. Luck with Fox Three has like his his mission generator that is like doing stuff. People are using Claude now for that kind of stuff. Like I think yeah, Jimmmmmmmy: Briefing room. FiFi: the briefing room, DKS has a bunch of stuff like that. Like SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: I think like an integrated one to help people build good missions would be great. And to SCUD: I think FiFi: also have script plugins like where moose where moose and CTLD scripts are are native to DCS. I would love to see that. SCUD: For the people listening and watching, Fifi did say the forbidden letters. Alpha India. but there FiFi: I didn't. SCUD: are other people on the show. Like we have three other hosts. So so give us some grace and please don't just unsubscribe immediately from the channel. FiFi: That's that's all I'm saying. Okay. Next one. If you can have Just to read you a bedtime story, what would it be? Graywo1f: Hey Peter. SCUD: Yes, I have an answer, but I want to go last. Graywo1f: You want me to read you a bedtime story, Peter? SCUD: All right. If you guys watched the the most recent cinematic, the the the heritage video from North American Aviation, our our illustrious gray wolf was the the voice. And he sent me he sent me all of the the lines I sent him, but then he sent me a second file and it was that voice. It was it was is it is it Joe? Is that his name? It it was all of the lines. Jimmmmmmmy: Idrick. FiFi: Patrick Warburton. Graywo1f: Yeah. Patrick Warbrin. SCUD: Hey Peter, the P fifty one Mustang was born in FiFi: Ha ha ha Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: I meant to make a a blue bar reel with that and I never had a chance. It was great. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I didn't I didn't tell you, but so I put it up on the TV in the living room. I like, hey Amelia, we got we got a new thing out. We recorded it last night. You want to check it out? She's like, because normally she knows we do long form just talking. She's like, And I was like, No, no, it's it's like a movie one. She's like, Okay, I'll watch it. Cause she likes watching the specific deep dives and stuff. She watched the F one hundred deep dives like s multiple times. So she can actually tell you about the hun. And when the hun overtakes the F eighty six. And the music shifts and you hear that sonic boom. She just gets this big smile across her face. And she said, She's like, Mom, did you know they had to change the metal on that jet engine? Cause it was originally melting. SCUD: Ha ha ha. Jimmmmmmmy: And I was like, Graywo1f: Nice. Jimmmmmmmy: You watch SCUD: I love that. Jimmmmmmmy: my stuff. She's Yeah, I like those ones. FiFi: Parenting that is the biggest parenting win I've ever heard. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, she had a smile from ear to ear SCUD: Yeah, that's that's good. Jimmmmmmmy: when the hun went past. Graywo1f: guys. SCUD: I I have a good answer to this question, but I wanna go last and I'm gonna send Greywolf something before Graywo1f: no! Do FiFi: no. Graywo1f: I have to read something as Morgan Freeman? Jimmmmmmmy: I I can I can SCUD: Absolutely you do. Jimmmmmmmy: I can give you the first answer. I want him to read me the Major Pain bedtime story as Major Pain. And I was just shooting FiFi: That'd be a good one. I don't know. Yeah. SCUD: that's a good answer. Jimmmmmmmy: like, you know, ripping him off the train, like FiFi: What's that? man, I just read a whole thing about this. It's like the hardest book in the world to read, and it's like like it's like the basis, it's like an old it's like an old Scottish or Irish writer. Finnegan's Wake. You gotta read Finnegan's Wake. Because it's got like a bunch of words that are made up in it that and it's like it's there's a like a lot of modern novels are written off of this particular book. so they say there's a theory out there that Star Wars is actually a a like based off of Finnegan's wake. But anyways. So everybody go look up Finnegan's Wake and try to understand Jimmmmmmmy: Is that why Yoda talks away does? FiFi: it. Yeah, it's like it's like a whole thing. But yeah. SCUD: Does Grey Wolf get answer this since he's also a jester? Jimmmmmmmy: He stands in a mirror Graywo1f: I Jimmmmmmmy: in his boxers after he's done brushing his teeth, takes an Elka Seltzer. Hey, good looking. You want to hear a story? Graywo1f: I read my SCUD: Do you read yourself bedtime stories? Graywo1f: kids bedtime stories and then sometimes I fall asleep doing so, so does that count? Jimmmmmmmy: dude, do you ever do FiFi: It if it works. Jimmmmmmmy: pout pout fish? Graywo1f: Yes. Jimmmmmmmy: I love pout pout fish. And the dreary weary's all over the place. Graywo1f: Yep. No, it's, I, FiFi: I I haven't heard that one. Graywo1f: I do love doing voices for the bedtime stories for sure. For the different characters. I, FiFi: That's fair. Jimmmmmmmy: I you to read Pop Pop Fish now. Graywo1f: that's, it's, it's a lot of fun. SCUD: I believe that. Graywo1f: Every fish. Well, scud sent me something to read his Morgan Freeman. SCUD: Yeah, so if if Jester FiFi: no. SCUD: could read me a bedtime story, I'd like him to read me this this book by an author named Adam Mansbach. And the book is it's an actual bedtime story book called Go the Fuck to Sleep. And I'd love him to read that in Graywo1f: you FiFi: god. SCUD: in Morgan Freeman's voice. And I sent him a little excerpt from it. Graywo1f: So I haven't done my Morgan Freeman warmups, but so bear with me, but the room is all I can remember. The furniture, crappy and cheap. You win, you escape, you run down the hall. And as I nod the fuck off and sleep. SCUD: I love that. Graywo1f: I haven't done my Morgan Freeman in so long, hopefully that didn't suck so bad. FiFi: God. my god. SCUD: That was good. That was great. FiFi: okay we SCUD: The only thing the only thing you missed was the was the startup where you go, yes. Graywo1f: yes. Well, you see, Andy FiFi: my god. I'm Graywo1f: Dufresne and I, we were in the chow SCUD: Yeah. Graywo1f: hall. FiFi: that's good. That's good. All right, moving on, because this is good the rails. Graywo1f: You SCUD: I love it. It's fun. FiFi: if the aircraft we regularly fly could talk about us, what would they say? Graywo1f: I have one. SCUD: Go ahead. Graywo1f: Do we really have to be that close? SCUD: Alright. Graywo1f: I'm always way close in formation. It's my natural state. FiFi: Ha ha Jimmmmmmmy: Mine mine would say please stop hitting that stupid paddle. Graywo1f: You SCUD: I'd I'd say it's the Mustang. FiFi: Wait, Jimmy, are you a paddle puller? SCUD: He yeah, I do know Jimmy's a paddle polar. Look at the guilt on that face. FiFi: No, I didn't know I didn't I I never took Jimmy as a I never took Jimmy as a paddle fooler. SCUD: I Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, if I see if SCUD: my mine would be the Mustang and it would be saying hot hot hot hot hot hot hot Graywo1f: Ha ha ha ha ha ha Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Graywo1f: ha. Jimmmmmmmy: That's good one. Graywo1f: Randy Marsh. Hot, hot, hot. SCUD: Hot, hot, hot, hot What FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: about you, Fifi? FiFi: it would be the one thirty. It'll be like, that's not a runway. Stop. What are you doing? Graywo1f: Or would it say, that's not a runway, but let's go. FiFi: No, it would tell me to stop. It would just tell me to Jimmmmmmmy: I think that's what I would say. Yeah. SCUD: Let's do it. FiFi: stop. I if if if the C130's damage damage model was updated a little bit more, I would always be bringing it back with like six pop tires. So exactly SCUD: It only has six tires, right? FiFi: exactly. Every time they'd be like, dude. So let's see. so here we go. could we do an episode discussing discussing our favorite single player campaigns and missions? We'd love to hear your thoughts on them. Yeah, why not? SCUD: I I yeah, I can think of one right off the bat. FiFi: Paradise Lost. Jimmmmmmmy: Yes. SCUD: Paradise Lost. FiFi: Yeah. Yeah. I think I we we that it's officially in the queue now. That that is something that that's an episode that we can do. Graywo1f: That would be a good one. FiFi: So yeah, there's no reason why not to. I think we've actually had the discussion before that we've we've wanted to talk, we wanted to have episodes where we talk about Jimmmmmmmy: I do speed and angels in the B U. FiFi: Yeah. I've heard that I heard it was really good. That just cut people flying it right now. And but yeah, I think I think we've actually had that discussion like a few times about wanting to do like something highlighting campaigns and we've really touched on it here and there but we haven't done a full episode so yeah a hundred percent I think we should do it so I think everybody's pretty Graywo1f: Hell yeah. FiFi: cool with that. All right. Well that was an easy question. number eleven, who is the worst at preparing for an episode and why is it Fifi? Rude. One one rude Graywo1f: I don't know, SCUD: Ha ha ha. Graywo1f: think it's probably me. Because I just show up. FiFi: Well, that's the that's the understood agreement though. SCUD: I Yeah, I don't Jimmmmmmmy: I think we all have our our moments. FiFi: Yeah, I would say we all have our moments. Jimmmmmmmy: Man. SCUD: I think we all have episodes that we we take charge of that we're excited about and then the rest of us just show Jimmmmmmmy: Okay. SCUD: up. FiFi: Yeah, it's true. Graywo1f: Yeah, there's probably FiFi: I'll admit Graywo1f: going to be some ideas that I have in the future that I'll probably... FiFi: Yeah. I'll admit that I start bitching. as soon as this one goes up, I'll start bitching at everybody about we need to figure out what we're doing with next episode and then I'll disappear for a few days and then not s talk about it. And then three days beforehand I'll be bitching at everybody again that we haven't come up with an episode. So SCUD: Case case in point. This was Fifi's idea to do a let's ask people questions. And then he posted in our studio Discord, I'm gonna post all the questions here. I owe you guys at least that much. And then me and Grey Wolf compiled and posted all the questions and Fifi didn't do shit. Graywo1f: you FiFi: Yeah, it's true. It's true. In my defense, I've been dealing with a pregnant wife. So that's my alibi. SCUD: I do wanna praise whoever wrote that question for for throwing shade at Fifi, right right in the question. FiFi: I think there's a couple of them for that. So all right. SCUD: Well done. FiFi: what is your favorite DCS aircraft to fly and why? Graywo1f: boy. Definitely the Top Cat. FiFi: Question. Graywo1f: Hands down. FiFi: It's a cool plane. It's just a cool plane. Graywo1f: But also, it's really close second for the Phantom just because of the pilotage and what you need to do to put bombs on target and that thing is so much fun when it works out. FiFi: I can I can validate that for sure. the Phantom is it's a monster. It's just so it's it's a lot of fun to fly. We've loved it. What about you guys? SCUD: The Huey. It's it's always my go to. it's it's not always something I can employ in a campaign or a mission, but there's there's probably not a time I fly at DCS where I don't end my my flying with a few minutes in the Huey every time. Graywo1f: It's so well done. SCUD: Could use a three D model refresh, but God's so fun. And maybe after that I'd say the FiFi: Really? I never see I see you and Wizard in the in the Apache all the time. And I I was expecting the Apache to make it in there. Because you guys always do work on a campaign of the Apache. Yeah. SCUD: It's fun when wizards when you have a good front seater, but I Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: That's more of a benefit in future situation though. FiFi: Yeah, fair. Jimmy. Jimmmmmmmy: For me it's definitely Spitfire. Graywo1f: You Jimmmmmmmy: I just I don't know. I even have my own little well the campaign, that the the fifty sixth fighter group. Like I will take off at dawn and just you know, just fly the coast. just something cool about the plane to me. FiFi: The Zen the SCUD: It's beautiful. FiFi: z the Zen of it. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: Ooh. I know everybody's expecting one thing out of me. SCUD: Y you you think? FiFi: Yeah, everybody's expecting Went to get me. But I'm gonna actually end up saying the P fifty one. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. That's a good one too. FiFi: Yeah, I'm SCUD: I FiFi: gonna I'm SCUD: thought FiFi: gonna say the P fifty one. SCUD: I was exp we were all expecting the Herc. And then when you when you hinted that it FiFi: Yeah, I know. I know. Jimmmmmmmy: No. SCUD: wasn't the Herc, I was gonna think it was gonna be the Mirage. Jimmmmmmmy: I was expecting the Mustang. FiFi: But the Mustang, it's just it's the Mustang. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, there's something special about the warbirds. we grew up idolizing that generation as kids, you know, and then we get to fly it, you know, and then just visually GCS is just such a I don't know, great looking environment. SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah. And then and then the same reason why I think it's the same reason why Jimmy, why you love the Spitfire, Scott, why you love the the reason why we all picked those planes, we recognize we none of us picked a modern a modern aircraft. in that sense for it and it SCUD: Well I was just gonna say if Sharko, if you're listening, nobody picked the Viper. FiFi: Yeah, nobody picked the Viper. Jimmmmmmmy: Or seven thirty seven. FiFi: Of course, yeah. SCUD: Ha ha. FiFi: But but Sharko's a boat boy now. He loves the Tomcat. He loves the BU. he like I was playing professional ship simulator earlier and he was giving me crap about playing professional ship s simulator. I don't care. It's a good game. But but he was like, You should be doing this, and then he sent me pick screenshots of him flying the BU. So he Jimmmmmmmy: Hmm. FiFi: is he is converted. SCUD: Go all the way back to the first question. That's what Fifi's if if simul if if Flight Sim disappeared, Fifi would be doing a podcast about driving like a a tugboat pushing a barge somewhere or some shit. He'd be wearing a sailor's hat and Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I would actually I would actually almost change my answer too. I would go to probably train sim just with like my introduction to trains in like the hobby world. Like that Graywo1f: yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: would go hand in hand with train sim. Let me send you guys in Discord real quick. we just rebuilt our layout and it is FiFi: Have you seen have you seen the steam the actual miniature steam locomotives that people can ride Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: on the rails? those that's wild. Graywo1f: yeah. SCUD: That's I think they're really cool. FiFi: That's super cool. SCUD: They also scare the shit out of me. You're you're gonna sit on like I've seen the like you said, the ones people ride. You're gonna sit on a on a pressurized boiler and ride that around your backyard. FiFi: Well you're sitting behind it. And but they're using they're using miniature tools, actually scoop coal in there into the fired Graywo1f: Mm-hmm. FiFi: and that's like I was I got stuck on like the the Instagram reels algorithm of that for a while. Actually, shout out to Glue, because like a couple of weeks ago I got stuck on like the train talk, like and so Glue and I like meme all the time, like send memes back and forth. That's the only time I ever get to talk to him since he's always working. And I got he ended up getting like two days worth of like train stuff from me one time and he was like, dude. It's just like SCUD: if you have VR and you want train stuff, derail that. FiFi: Deeper Valley, okay. SCUD: It's only in VR. But you have to legit FiFi: So while Jimmy's looking that up and symmetry. SCUD: use your hands to pick up the shovel and shovel coal and turn Graywo1f: Nice. SCUD: valves and it's it's it's nerdy as hell. Anyways. FiFi: So while Jimmy's looking that up and he's getting ready to send that stuff. here's a good one. How did this Graywo1f: Number 13. FiFi: whole thing start? Yep. How did this whole thing start? And what made you guys start a podcast about such a niche game? I think this deserves a story from the beginning. Jimmmmmmmy: I can hit it in thirty seconds. SCUD: Go ahead, Fifi. Jimmmmmmmy: yeah, Fi Fi, you hit it. FiFi: no. Okay. So we were all in the squadron. Well SCUD: You were you were the the match, the spark. FiFi: well, more like more like the fart in the windstorm. But but like I I think I think it goes back to like when we were all flying in the like in the in the same squadron. Like we started off on a couple servers together. We're flying on the same squadron in the same squadron and Jimmy and Scud were big streamers. Like they were streaming all the time, you know, they had like quite a bit few followers. And I remember the joke always made That's good always made. And Jimmy even made the joke too. you guys were both making the j joke at the same time of, hey, if we could do this full time, I totally quit. I totally quit my my job, my like my real time job and make money. Because we were talking about like with the th the thirty dollar payouts from like Twitch and stuff like that. And then one day I think we were all joking about we were talking about how like our wives hate it when we just saw sit there and just talk about DCS to them. And then I was like, what if we start a podcast and we just talk about DCS to each other? And then that's kind of how it started. And then that it just kinda went from there. But now we all we do is talk to our wives about about the podcast. So SCUD: Yeah. Yeah, it was just an out of a nowhere question when when you brought it up too. We we th thought about the idea once for while, or once or twice, and then yeah, and then what Fifi hit me up one time and he's like, Hey, do you want to podcast? yeah. And we he had done a lot of research. He did a lot of the footwork before we started. But we're we were kind of talking about it. We're like, you know, if like 50, 100 people listen. As long as we're having fun doing it, then let's do it. And then 50 people subscribed and we were like, my gosh. And and then we hit a hundred and we blew our minds. FiFi: Yeah. And then Graywo1f: Jimmy was like, or Jimmy. Yeah, Jimmy started on episode like four or five, right? Or something like that. SCUD: I w three? We had him as a guest on three. FiFi: Yeah, well d the story about the story about that was Graywo1f: yeah, that's right. FiFi: Yeah. And this and how that started was the fact that we were like Scott and I were like, Well, we're starting a podcast, but we really don't have a home for it. And and then Jimmy came out as a guest, which was like, Jimmy, we need we need something to talk about. Do you want to come on as a DS? And he was like, sure. And then of course everybody loved Jimmy on the on the episode because it's Jimmy. And then and then we're like, we need a home for the podcast. And then Jimmy was like, Well, you guys want to use the fifty six op group as a home for the podcast? We're like Can we? And then that happened, and then and then Grey Wolf and then you came around. god, the thumbs. And then Grey Wolf and then you came around. And like we were wigging out. We were like, holy shit, like Grey Wolf, Grey Wolf from Grey Flag loves the podcast. It said it would like it was so funny. Like those early conversations where we were like, Nobody bug him. Nobody bug him. Let's not bug him. Let's not ask him to come on. Like, nobody bug him. He probably gets bugged all the time. Like nobody just just leave him Jimmmmmmmy: Play cool, play cool, play cool. FiFi: like play cool, play cool, play cool. And then yeah, and then you just start hanging out. We we also start hanging out more and then now we're all here. So bing, bang, boom. That's basically how it happened. SCUD: And the the second half of the question, it's such a niche game, but it's it's a it's our niche game. this is our niche. This is what we do. We it's why we're not doing a podcast about anything else. FiFi: There's obviously twenty five thousand six hundred people in v w who wanna listen to it. So we wanna figure it out. So Jimmmmmmmy: It's also it's also like a great outlet to have fun because the best funnest moments I've had in this game in the last probably s six, eight months has just been the four of us plus, one or two others just filming for cinematics or stuff like that. SCUD: Love it. Love it. Good question. FiFi: So yeah, that's a good answer. okay. boy, this is a long one. DCS World launched in 2012, and no game lasts forever. With advancing technology and declining activity, how much longer do you think the current DCS World simulation will remain viable? Are there any potential competitors or replacements being developed? What is Egodynamics doing to remain competitive, attract new customers, and retain existing ones? And at what point Would starting over with DCS World 2 become more practical than continuing to overhaul the existing platform? Oof. That's a long Jimmmmmmmy: got that. SCUD: Hmm. FiFi: one. Jimmmmmmmy: I got that. SCUD: Go ahead. Jimmmmmmmy: so FiFi: Yeah, that's all you have. Jimmmmmmmy: you have to look at where we came from. Somebody who asked that question is probably more our age to where, we had Battlefield One, Battlefield Two, stuff like that. We had, man, trying to think of the Mario, Mario World, Mario sixty four, you know, and we didn't get updates back then, but now when you look at modern games, especially something niche and focused on flight like DCS, we get updates at least once a month now with new content. We get modules, it feels like all the time now compared to what it was when we started flying this. And This game is constantly in a state of evolution and moving forward. look at we're we're on the edge of, switching to Vulcan, and instead of sacrificing what we have, they're cleaning up what is there, they're always expanding it and always improving it. So I don't know that we are in an age of replacing a game. another another example is Grand Theft Auto. The most recent Grand Theft Auto ran for thirteen years and it still has new updates constantly. so I I don't know that DCS is I don't know that we'll ever see DCS two just because Eagle Dynamics is so forward leaning on technology and content. Graywo1f: That's almost like a flying museum SCUD: I I agree with that. Graywo1f: too. Jimmmmmmmy: Mm-hmm. SCUD: I agree with that completely. Yeah, the really good point at with how much content is being made compared to what it was, years ago. I it's the longest running Flight Sim studio, Eagle Dynamics. That that Wags told us that when he was on the episode that that, you know, you'd think like Microsoft Flight Sim, but has been out forever, but it's been bounced from studio Graywo1f: Yep. SCUD: to studio. This is the longest running Flight Sim studio out there. And they have been able to improve the game. dramatically and and I can only see it getting better. Vulcan, you mentioned, is gonna hopefully bring massive improvements and changes to the game. so viable, it's niche. Like people that fly this game, they want ultra-realism in the flight sim. and I don't know that they need to be competitive because there's nobody else producing something that Jimmmmmmmy: Mm-mm. SCUD: is a study level like this. There are a lot of competitors to just Combat flight sim stuff. War Thunder, and more recently, IL2 Korea, which is a beautiful looking game. And I am jealous of what IL2 Korea has as far as an actual Korean map and more Korean era assets and a lot more different variety of airplanes to fly. But they're not no no switch flippy in the cockpit. Everything has to be bound or keyboard. And that's where this game stands out, right? That's the people that play DCS play it because they want that extremely intricate level of depth. And I don't think there is a competitor out there. and I hope, and I don't I don't want, I'm not bashing on War Thunder if that's your thing. if you if you think it's realistic for a plane to go like this when it turns. all the videos I see, the planes, the plane maneuvering is just it kills me. and if you like all these other games, that's great. Do that. I I hope that. DCS and Eagle Dynamics does not try to change their product to appeal to those players because that lowers the s the standard that they've set for the the modules we have now. And I don't think they will. the the devs that want to make airplanes for DCS are held to an incredibly high standard. They have to demonstrate that before they're allowed, before they're given a contract to make an airplane. So I don't I don't think there's a competitor to this. It just sits in its own lane. Jimmmmmmmy: And then to be SCUD: And it's not for everybody. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, to pig back off what you said, if you're at a point where you think you've done everything in DCS, you just need to broaden your horizons, try a new server, try a new module, or get into a new aspect of the game with creating content or creating missions, or, you know, step out and teach FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: people, or you know, there is so many different facets to have intrinsic joy in playing this game that if you're at that point where you're like, I've done it all, I promise you you haven't. So SCUD: Have you done a labs drop in the F86? Then you haven't done it all. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: Have you have you have you have you tossed a nuke in the MiG 21? No. There's I we have lots of modules. We fly all the time, and there are there are aspects to these modules that I have not gotten deep enough into to exploit. You know, I I love the the Huey. I fly it all the time. There, there's there's one or two campaigns I've flown where I have to like dig in and figure out how to run the the ADF radios to like, you know. home on a station to complete a mission. Yeah, there there's I think most players kind of scratch the surface, maybe just start to peel back the first couple layers. And there's so much depth to the game that there's always you can always dig deeper. I don't know. What else on that one? FiFi: Okay, well, we got anything? Graywo1f: Purple. FiFi: Purple. Purple. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Jimmy and Scott are right in that sense. Like a hundred percent right. But there's a reason and I think DCS isn't the product. It's there's another facet of ego dynamics that is an open secret that everybody knows about, that is the actual business. And DCS, we are getting the cool benefits and the byproduct of a lot of things from a different facet that we that a lot of people don't know about that they think they know about. Through a lot of conversations that we've had with a lot of different people. that is I think I'm I'm trying to keep it as vague as possible without getting it without getting anybody in trouble or you know, but I think I think we're we're benefactors to a much larger picture. And we're lucky enough to have forty percent of of other of other projects in the form of DCS. So DCS is not gonna change. I don't think it I don't think it'll ever change unless requirements for the other sixty percent of what goes on changes, and then we're gonna be benefactors of that. So there is no competitor to for Ego Dynamics. There is none. There there is because there's nobody else that does what they do, like Scott said. And like Jimmy said, it's it's so deep that you have no idea what you're missing because you just don't know because it's so much. So Jimmmmmmmy: You don't know what you don't know. FiFi: You don't know what you don't know. So that's that's my that's my extremely vague but extremely specific answer on that. So purple. SCUD: All right. Purple. FiFi: purple. I just lost the list. Hold on. Anybody got the list? Okay, I got it. I'm back. Go okay. which module that you own do you use the least and why? Is there a particular feature or mission that would encourage you to fly it more often? Ooh, I've got a really good answer for this one. So you guys go. SCUD: If you a good answer, spit it. FiFi: Okay. All the helicopters that I own. I own the Hind. Graywo1f: you Jimmmmmmmy: Ha ha ha ha. FiFi: I own the Apache. SCUD: Yeah. Graywo1f: you FiFi: I almost bought the Shinook, but I didn't. And it's because I'm a terrible freaking helicopter pilot and I just hate helicopters, right? But The reason why I don't fly them is actually a really cool conversation. I don't know if you guys were around for it. I think it was where we were doing it while we're playing Arc Raiders with them. But it was a question I asked Wags about, and I don't have any issues going on that prevents me from flying a helicopter. it's got donated to be rudder pedals. I've got I've got the full setup, right? But I asked Wags, I was like, are there any. Is was there any plans for any assists and accessibility assists for people to who want to fly helicopters, don't fly helicopters? And he and he said yeah, because or he said that he would he wants to and he wishes that he could, because of the fact that you know he couldn't use rudder pedals, and so he had to use like his his his his Jimmmmmmmy: T D C's flu. FiFi: CDC slew for for his for his yaw and for his anti-torque pedals and One thing for people who are afraid of getting into war birds for the fact that, they just can't control the torque and the the P factor on takeoff and stuff like that is there's a there's in the special menu, there's an assist slider and option where you can turn on auto rudder to help you get off the ground and fly. And I've taught it's an assist, but yeah, Jimmmmmmmy: It's not auto, it's it's assist. Yeah. FiFi: but it it helps you get off the ground. Jimmmmmmmy: Does FiFi: it makes things a lot more manageable to help you build confidence. I used it in the mosquito at first. While we were trying to get the mosquito off the ground. So I would love to see some sort of an assist like that in helicopters, anti-torque assist in helicopters, to help people get the confidence to fly helicopters more. And I would fly helicopters a lot more if I could just do that because I just really suck at helicopters. There's my answer. SCUD: He's afraid of the Jimmmmmmmy: I ha SCUD: god nut. Jimmmmmmmy: I have I have w FiFi: It's tattoo. Jimmmmmmmy: I have an answer, but it's pretty boring. Mine mine is the Hercules and I I already lived that life. I'm not trying to do it again. Graywo1f: the FiFi: That's fair. SCUD: I think Graywo1f: same. SCUD: I I love all of them. I have a lot I don't fly. And I think the ones I don't fly are for a lack of purpose. I I I I don't fly the MiG fifteen. Hardly ever. I love that module, but I don't fly it very much because I there's just not many servers or environments where you're like the MiG fifteen's the right tool for the job. It's never the right tool for the job on almost any online server or campaign. FiFi: Except for now. SCUD: no, it's not. It was it would have been the right the right, but we have we have third gen it so it's like I'm not gonna go up against a third gen and make fifteen. It's it's it's very hard to Jimmmmmmmy: Now with that attitude. SCUD: it's very hard to build FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: it take it's gonna take some effort for people to build something that some of these these modules feel like it's it's their environment where they can kind of thrive. And I would say the same with like the the MI eight. but that's because I If I'm gonna fly helicopters, I'll just fly the Huey. the MiG-21 I have, and I almost never fly it because it's it's complicated as hell. what would help me fly? What feature, what thing would make me want to fly these more? They probably already are out there. I just haven't taken the time to download them, is really good single player campaigns that are built for you to be able to take some of these airplanes that don't have a really good home and feel like they fit in. But case in point, we we mentioned it earlier, the the Huey, the it doesn't really have a place. I mean, not in not in most of the modern campaigns. You don't have you have some flares, you have no RWR. It's it's but Paradise Lost made that helicopter feel absolutely at home in a Vietnam ish style campaign. So Graywo1f: Yeah, for me, it'd probably just be some of the warbirds just because I always just come back to the P-51. But I'd love to fly them more. Like Scud said, to get a good mission or a campaign to really kind of explore it better. but yeah, SCUD: Yeah. Graywo1f: that's a tough one. Jimmmmmmmy: It's so it's that's yeah. I th I think we all suffer from this from the same thing where we get modules, we're like, this is cool, and then we don't have the environment or we don't go find the environment or we don't create the environment for it to thrive and we just sit back on it. It was a great case in point is in this is the tiger, because when we did our deep dive into the tiger, we were doing a Cold War campaign and all of us were like, we're gonna fly it, but we're gonna get SCUD: we had fun. Jimmmmmmmy: We're like, we're gonna get our cheeks claps, boys, but it's gonna be fun. We're gonna do it together. But then we jumped in with Beaver and Beaver, you know, took mission commander and he literally, you know, took the time to actually plan and briefed us what we're gonna do. He kept us idiots together. And we literally did bombing run after bombing run of pop ups and we just were wiping the map and we were just coming back every time. Graywo1f: Yeah, it reminds me of a campaign one of my DFA homies Shakespeare made of the Yom Kippur War and we just flew F4 Phantoms like crazy and it was the most Jimmmmmmmy: dude. That'd be yeah. FiFi: That'd be cool. Graywo1f: fun I've probably some of the most fun I've ever had in DCS for sure. FiFi: It's really funny to listen to the guys who are like the main dudes hosting servers, big servers at that, to talk about how they don't get a chance to fly anything because there's nothing out there for it. And I think it shows, and I'm not like poking at you guys for it, but I think it shows how difficult it is to host environments for it because of the fact that you, you know, as server hosts, like I I watch this happen to you guys all the time, sitting on the sideline. but like You guys are always struggling to try to make sure it's inclusive enough for everybody to be able to jump in. And like we're seeing that right now with with the Korean with the Korean war server. Like we have like Tomcats and F one hundreds and like early, early sixties model aircraft in there because we don't want to alienate people because you know, otherwise it should if we were gonna keep pure to it, it should just be F eighty sixes and MiG fifteens and like some Corsairs and P fifty ones and stuff. But it's not because not everybody has that. SCUD: Yep. Yeah, we did the research. Yeah, we did the research. It's Mustang Corsair F eighty six and on Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: the red side it's LA seven and MiG fifteen. And if it's real Jimmmmmmmy: It's hard. SCUD: Korean War, that's that's the only modules you get. And and yeah, that that narrows FiFi: But we'd alienate SCUD: your scope. So now you're only getting players that are gonna fly those airplanes and not everyone has those airplanes. Jimmmmmmmy: And then it and then if you dial it down even more to ground assets, that narrows it even more. to where you mix in can some modern scouts, throw in some well, you can't really throw in, World War Two tanks and flak because now you need the World War Two asset pack and FiFi: Yeah. We need SCUD: Which it that's what you'd have in the Korean War, right? It it a Jimmmmmmmy: Thank yeah. Graywo1f: Hmm. SCUD: lot of the tanks and ground assets were World War Two assets. So Jimmmmmmmy: But to Phoebe's point, FiFi: It's a Jimmmmmmmy: you how how many people do that does that then second order, they don't come in? Yeah. SCUD: Well that yeah, that that's why I say it's it's it's a matter of taking the time to to jump in and fly single player campaigns and just understand Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Yeah. That's SCUD: that the real environment where people have taken the time to build that out is not always going to be a multiplayer environment. Jimmmmmmmy: That's a perfect answer, Scud. FiFi: So interest that was a that was SCUD: Next one. FiFi: a really cool interesting question. okay. Of all SCUD: Yeah, it was. FiFi: the announced Red Four new Red Four modules, which one are you most excited about and why? SCUD: Well let's break down what we got here, right? We've got the the MiG seventeen, we've got Graywo1f: Make 27. SCUD: the MiG twenty three and the MiG twenty seven K. Am I missing any other ones? FiFi: I don't know. I think there was a couple of guys who do a podcast that talked about another one that was coming out about two episodes ago that hasn't been quite officially SCUD: What am I missing? FiFi: announced yet, but we but not we, but I've I've heard that those guys actually said it outright. Yeah. SCUD: yeah, no, you hinted at it, right? You hinted at it at one of our episodes. FiFi: And only one person only one person came forward and it was actually Venom. It was pretty funny. He was like, Dude, are you serious? I was like, Yeah. And supposedly there's two variants of that coming. SCUD: You're talking about a possible Graywo1f: As far as which one I'm most excited about of those three that we're thinking SCUD: A bat? Graywo1f: of is the MiG-27 probably. Yeah. FiFi: A flying manual memo? Really? Sure. SCUD: Same. Graywo1f: doing some FiFi: Explain. Graywo1f: Cold War air to ground. I don't know, just something about the look of the MiG-23, 27, and the sweep wings, and just how it looks on the ground, that crazy landing gear. when I was growing up in high school and making missions in Flanker 2.0, and then lock on and whatnot. I was always tossing the B27 in as a cool air to ground because I'm just like, man, that thing looks so cool. SCUD: It is cool looking. yeah, I I'm the same. I I we had a chance to test the MiG 17 and it's gonna be awesome. The Red Star is doing such good work with that. we need to talk to Gavad and and and and get more information Jimmmmmmmy: Yes. SCUD: out of him on that. that dude is so much fun. Graywo1f: Yes. SCUD: and he's really passionate and excited about the project. the the same thing. as much as I'm excited about that, I just I wanted to have a home. And the MiG-23 is going to be awesome, but it's a it's an it's an interceptor. It's an air interceptor. And that doesn't excite me as much because that's it's not a dog fighter. It's an interceptor. And there's just not a lot of intercept missions. And you're gonna take off with an air-to-air loadout and you're gonna get jumped by somebody that can turn and fight better. And so I think it's gonna be a a fun airplane that's gonna be a struggle to fight in. But but take that same airframe, the MiG-23, take the same airframe and update it. Into a ground attack MiG twenty seven K, they're almost the same airframe. I think they are. they look the same. That that is exciting to me. That that ground pound Russian style. Jimmmmmmmy: I'm looking forward to b yeah. I'm looking forward to both of those, but for a a very different reason. And that's because like when I'm flying and I get into a merge with them, they throw their wings back, they for a full burner and they just have like this insane amount of speed on tap and SCUD: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: I'm like, Holy shit. Like that's what I'm Graywo1f: Yeah, they're very fast. Jimmmmmmmy: looking forward to. FiFi: I'm with Jimmy. Graywo1f: Surprise people. FiFi: I'm with Jimmy. The answer's all of them. Just because Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: one, red the like the Red Four players have been holding it down in just the MiG 20, MiG 21, and then recently the MiG 29. And I'm just happy for all the Red Four guys that finally get it. Like Harper woke up in the Graywo1f: get a W. FiFi: yeah, Harper woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep. And like he was SCUD: He blew the Discord up. FiFi: Yeah. Like like it it's just it's just cool to see the excitement from all the Red Four players. Like they deserve They finally deserve to have more aircraft. And so I'm just excited just because it's it's it there's just it's just more stuff to play with and more opportunities to create some cool stuff. That's my that's my answer. SCUD: I well and FiFi: All of them. SCUD: it's also gonna be exciting too. We're we're so used to seeing MiG-23s and MiG twenty-sevens. Is it are the what are they both in AI right now or is it just the twenty-three? I think it's Graywo1f: Are they both a what? SCUD: are they both AI assets? I think they are. Graywo1f: yeah, yeah. SCUD: We're so used to seeing them and just assuming they're AI. And so Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: it's gonna be exciting it when when when when somebody sees one, when when AWAX calls out a MiG-23. And they're like, okay, that's an AI player. And then it starts doing shit that AI doesn't do. And that was the same when the MiG-29 came out. There, you'd see a MiG-29 and and you weren't sure which which is this a is this AI or is this client? And it was the same with when we did one of our campaigns and Fifi was in the Mirage and we we did a little El Rojio action and and people didn't know at first. And and I remember somebody somebody was in the Discord, they were like, they were like, holy the Jimmmmmmmy: what the fuck is up with this thing? SCUD: That that's not that's not moving like a that's not moving like an AI airplane and it was Fifi in the in the Mirage. So it it'll be really fun when when when you don't know You don't know. This might Jimmmmmmmy: You're gonna hear SCUD: be this might be a person with some skill. Jimmmmmmmy: He hear Morgan Freeman with a Russian accent saying, Gotcha bitch SCUD: Yeah FiFi: Good. Graywo1f: Another one bites the dust. FiFi: That's a good one. Jimmmmmmmy: You gotta throw some Russian in there, some Cyrillic Wang. Graywo1f: yeah. SCUD: All right, we got what, two more questions? FiFi: Two more questions. So next question. Do you think we'll ever see a fox bat in DCS? Graywo1f: I have no idea. Jimmmmmmmy: Next. SCUD: We already skirted around that a little bit. but I I it it it but FiFi: yeah, I'm just next next. SCUD: that also th I I hope so. I I think we need every old airplane that's ever existed in DCS. So I'm gonna say I hope so to every module that we could talk about. But but Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. SCUD: again the fog the Foxbat is a it's a high altitude interceptor, so it's gonna be another one of those like you're gonna have to have Jimmmmmmmy: Purpose. SCUD: the right mission for it. You're gonna have to have campaigns built where you've gotta intercept B fifty twos from hundreds of miles out to make use of that airplane. Jimmmmmmmy: I think it it was either Graywo1f: It'd be cool to emulate the reconnaissance version of it too through some scripts SCUD: yeah. Graywo1f: or something like that. SCUD: That's a powerful airplane. FiFi: Gee, those all sound like such great ideas. It would be so cool to have a fox bat in DCS that could do all of those things. Yes. Next question. Jimmmmmmmy: one one of one of you three said it earlier when we were talking about the longevity of DCS, it it is a museum for us to live in. And so, you know, like Scud just said, like I hope we get all. FiFi: Yeah. Like Pokemon. Airplane Pokemon. SCUD: All right, last question. Graywo1f: Gotta catch all. FiFi: Last question. SCUD: Hey Peter. Graywo1f: Hey Peter! Hey Peter! FiFi: Yeah. Graywo1f: We got another aircraft here. Throw the fuck a pokeball! FiFi: God. SCUD: Can you give us a couple gesture calls in that voice? FiFi: my god, yeah, I know. That's gotta that's we we know. Graywo1f: One o'clock low. Holy shit, we're right behind him. Go get him, Peter. FiFi: All right. I am Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, that would Graywo1f: you Jimmmmmmmy: people people there's there's gesture mods out there. I would love to have that on the user file somewhere to download a new repository. FiFi: I am no, I am clipping this and I'm just gonna send it over. I'm gonna put it in the Heapler tester Discord and be like Jimmmmmmmy: It's now straight to Iron Mike. Graywo1f: Ha ha ha ha! FiFi: this this this is this this needs to go in the next update. Graywo1f: going to go as out as a short. FiFi: Yeah, it just needs to go in the next update. That's just what it is. Graywo1f: You FiFi: All right. Jimmmmmmmy: do the ver vertebrae vertebros thing. Graywo1f: Hey Peter, my fucking vertebrae just became vertebros. They're so much closer now. SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: my god. Alright. SCUD: that's my favorite line. FiFi: We just keep poking Grey we just keep we poor out poor Grey Wolf. We just keep poking for stuff. Jimmmmmmmy: and then the F the the F four phantom when you're taxing and you're like, guys this could be high or low today or whatever. SCUD: What do you mean? Graywo1f: Yeah. FiFi: my god. Okay. Graywo1f: Those are some fun ones to FiFi: Last last question. If you were king of the castle for a day, what would you implement or ch I knew I knew that was coming? What would you change SCUD: King of the castle, King the Castle. FiFi: or implement about DCS in its current state? SCUD: Mm-hmm. Graywo1f: Well, aside from what we said earlier of replay system, I would say, yeah. FiFi: Yeah, you can't use that one twice. Even or you can emphasize, or you can just emphasize how important that is. Graywo1f: Yeah, I would emphasize that, but I would also say multi-core or multi-threaded in some way, multi-threaded servers. I think that would be nice. SCUD: Better multi threading. I would say I would say and they're already working on it, so it's a it's kind of a moot point, but Falcon because of the gameplay well the multi threading improvements and the gameplay improvements that it's gonna bring. Jimmmmmmmy: Got one. Full fidelity multi crew ground vehicles. Graywo1f: Dude, I even was thinking a few years ago, like how cool would it be to have a fucking Arleigh Burke or some shit like that? I mean, it would be super crazy in DCS or whatever. Jimmmmmmmy: You need you need sixty people to multi crew it. Graywo1f: Well, yes, that would be a SCUD: Yeah. Graywo1f: bit much, like just in some kind of fashion of like. That'd be that'd be kind of neat. Jimmmmmmmy: It would be badass. Yeah. FiFi: That's actually that's it that's actually a really cool one. SCUD: It would just be can you imagine that in in VR and you're just standing Graywo1f: Yeah. SCUD: on the bridge and all all it's all you do is yell and then somebody repeats an order back to you? Helm, ten degrees Jimmmmmmmy: I was born for it. SCUD: left. Helm ten degrees left. You just you just stand there and yell orders. FiFi: Hmm. Graywo1f: Yeah, the manpower thing aside. Jimmmmmmmy: be quite FiFi: Mm. Jimmmmmmmy: a robust w SCUD: Phoebe, what's your Jimmmmmmmy: gesture wheel. SCUD: sorry. Graywo1f: Yes. SCUD: Yeah, the jester wheel's got four hundred options. FiFi: Yeah. One of them actually being like a breakfast, lunch, and dinner menu option because you know, food on a ship is like that's that's important. geez. SCUD: So or toilets, apparently. FiFi: Yeah, it's true. Like I did I did like a I did like a two week cruise one time. I was lucky enough to go on a two week cruise on an LHA one time and as soon as we left port, like two days into it. Every head except for one, was busted in there. Like it was bad. SCUD: Do you have any MRE bags? FiFi: No, well it was still a ships though. Jimmmmmmmy: Just be over the side, dude. Graywo1f: There's a Humvee below Dex probably, right? FiFi: I don't know what about mine, like SCUD: King in the castle, Fifi. FiFi: For me for me I would Trying to say this without throwing shade at some of our dear friends in Ego Dynamics. for me, it would be a more focused campaign on Sharing information and getting and being not as closed off as a company to the player base, like helping try to build some more confidence. Because what's the one thing we always say? Well, how and then like and it's it's it goes to show when everybody gloms on, like they're like, Did you guys see somebody from Ecodynamics like was on somebody's podcast? And then like that's like Everybody glomps onto it. And then that's the only talk for three months. And that's the only thing you ever really get like a good a good thing. And and of course Big Nui and Nineline are out there all the time answering questions in the Discord. but and but I think it would be really cool to actually have like a really good public relations officing campaign from from them to like be a little bit I'm not gonna say more transparent because I d we don't we don't need to know the inner workings of the business, but I don't know. I just feel like I feel like DCS and Ego Dynamics as a company is still a little disconnected and close guarded from the player community. And I understand that the player community is pretty toxic at times, but I think they're toxic I think I think someone's got to step first. And I feel like Ego Dynamics has an opportunity to step first and kind of open up the doors to the land of Oz a little bit. And and let people's and let let the munchkin land see kind of thing. Jimmmmmmmy: So they need a marketing specialist? FiFi: Possibly or somebody. so some somebody that isn't afraid to get out in front of SCUD: Ha ha ha. FiFi: everybody, right? Like Wags did an incredible job about it, but Wags wore also like so many hats where he was so busy that it would you were lucky to get a chance to get Wags around to talk about it. So SCUD: Jimmy, I'm surprised you didn't lean into the camera and wink on that one. Graywo1f: you FiFi: Yeah. So that's that's that's my I that that would be my king of the castle answer. SCUD: I have one other thing I'd like to see. And I know we're not going to get it, but I'm going to call it out anyways. I would love to see a f built on the Herc we have with all the the detail put into it, a gunship, a real gunship. FiFi: No. No. SCUD: I know we're not gonna Jimmmmmmmy: Yes. Graywo1f: You SCUD: get it, but I with it with an actual side HUD and then an actual weapon near station in the back where you're running the pod and driving the guns, I think that multi-crew. Of maneuvering around a target while somebody's in the back shooting. Graywo1f: That 105 would be pretty slick. Jimmmmmmmy: I I FiFi: I would be SCUD: Well. Jimmmmmmmy: I'm right there with you 'cause anything multi crew is better than the whatever else you want to touch. SCUD: Phoebe's gonna rip his head off. FiFi: Nope. I think nope, Jimmmmmmmy: It only taker stuff, guys. FiFi: no, no, no, no, no. I listen, I I live I I can throw rocks and hit the gunships on the runway. as someone who grew up around gunships and worked with gunships their entire career, I love gunships and they're super fucking cool. If we were gonna do a DCS gunship, it needs to be an A model, a Vietnam era A model one, and we'd fly it like you fly the Han. Like in in those scenarios. A modern gunship Absolutely not, it would die like the B seventeen. Jimmmmmmmy: God didn't put an error on there. He just said, Give me multicrew. FiFi: He said side HUD. He said side HUD. Even the H models and U models did not have side HUDs. They they were still doing grease pencils. Jimmmmmmmy: Not with that attitude. SCUD: I don't I just think it would be cool multi crew. FiFi: No, absolutely not. Because it would take look up the look up the story of Spirit Zero Four. Spirit Zero Three. Jimmmmmmmy: I want it for the fun with the homies. FiFi: It would be it would be insane amounts of fun, but it would die so quickly because it would the the the the the hype around it would die so quickly because people would try to put it in situ like a a gunship works really well in a very extremely specific circumstance. Jimmmmmmmy: then we create that environment. FiFi: Right, but people won't. we will. But yeah, it would go that way. Like, SCUD: Just just like the F the MiG fifteen works in a very specific experience. FiFi: but but everybody else will be like, you know, you'll get I'm I'm gonna throw shade. It'll be growling sidewide or being like, Well, I'm gonna low level a three hundred knots into my gunship and then try to like people think that gunships do shit because they watched wait transformers way too many times over and over again. And that's not what a gunship does. People will get so fucking bored of gunship. Anyways, I'm done. I'm done. Graywo1f: I have a devil's advocate of the gunship. If we had a gunship, C-130 gunship, and we put it in gray flag, I wouldn't change a thing. I think we have the, just for example, and I think a lot of other servers would be similar in this regard. They create the sandbox of the campaign, and then, hey, if you want to be able to use this asset, you need to make it. so you can use this asset and you need to sanitize the airspace completely. out the room, always take out the SAMs SCUD: Yeah, it needs to be a permissible environment. Graywo1f: and then you can then you can get your gunship in Jimmmmmmmy: Then you can cook. Graywo1f: there. But for sure, there will be a lot of gunships shot down until they figure that out. FiFi: And by then people will give up on it 'cause they're like, Well, I can't fly this stupid gunship because all I do is get shot down 'cause I can't get anybody. And then they're gonna go back to flying the A ten and realize I have so much more fun doing groundwork on a in an A ten. Graywo1f: but the people who really will be able to fly the gunship will stick around. FiFi: Gunship's a bad SCUD: Yeah. FiFi: idea. Terrible idea. Graywo1f: Are we did? FiFi: The only one that I SCUD: Anyways. FiFi: w the only other one that I would really be on board for would be the AC forty seven. Graywo1f: That would be cool. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: Ooh. Again. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: more niche environment. You're like, hold on, let's take something that's hard for an environment and then make it ten times more focused. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD: Ha ha. FiFi: it would be fun to throw it into a World War II server, but Yeah. Yeah, Graywo1f: your Korean server FiFi: or a Korean server. But no. I'm I'm not gonna rant anymore on that. Jimmmmmmmy: that thing would throw that that thing would thrive in what I just launched today. No SAMS, just lob one fives. FiFi: Any more rage bitty rage bitty things that we want to bring up? SCUD: There wasn't a one hundred five in the see Jimmmmmmmy: I'll take anything. I I SCUD: the spooky. It just had miniguns. It had three or four miniguns outside. Jimmmmmmmy: still take it. It'd still thrive. FiFi: So hour and thirty six minutes. Graywo1f: Are we to dad advice now? SCUD: Well, I think we are. I think we're a dat advice. Yep, he's sh caught Graywo1f: deer in the headlights. FiFi: Yeah, Jimmy. Jimmmmmmmy: I got one. SCUD: off guard. Graywo1f: you SCUD: Yeah, how he always says I got one like we were calling on anybody else too. He's like he's always like, hold on, I got one. It's it's FiFi: Yeah, I know. It's it's only coming from Jimmy. SCUD: always Vin Jimmy. Jimmmmmmmy: I I've got one. This one's actually gonna go out to one of my very dear homies. I'm not gonna say any names, James, but a real man will take a fart to the limit and sometimes go past it. SCUD: How is that dad advice? It's FiFi: Good. Jimmmmmmmy: 'Cause every dad no SCUD: it's we're back to old man advice. Jimmmmmmmy: every every dad knows sometimes you take it to the limit and sometimes you go past it with parts. SCUD: Yeah, every man knows that, dad or not. Jimmmmmmmy: Ha ha ha ha. SCUD: Well there's the poop joke. Jimmmmmmmy: You're welcome. FiFi: Yep, there we go. Our proof reference. We are SCUD: All right, thanks for watching and listening, everyone. Grey Wolf as always, thanks for being here all the time. Graywo1f: Yeah, FiFi: We're mission complete. So Graywo1f: happy to be here. And as always, RifleKazoo.