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Top 10 Card Magic Plots (and the worst) #180 · The Magic Guys

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Don't you threaten me with a good time, Doug. Ladies and gentlemen, and I'm Josh Norbito.
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Welcome to the show where we talk about being a professional magician and the
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weird stuff that happens with it. You know what?
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I got a message from a magician, a fellow Australian magician.
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He goes by the name of Magic Dale on Instagram.
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Are you friends with Nick yet?
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You're friends with yourself, but are you friends with Dale yet,
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Nick? I don't think I am friends with Dale, but I'll definitely set up a friendship.
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Chip he's he's uh yeah so so he's
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from perth and he reached out to
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say that he found about found out about
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the podcast but he's starting from episode one and i
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was like all right oh my god and this is a few months back he just messaged
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me yesterday to say this is so awesome i've made it to episode 100 now wow and
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the coolest thing is and i'm saying this now dale because i'm sure in In like another year,
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you'll get to this episode and you'll hear me talking about you.
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He said he has a notebook, which is called like the magic podcast notes.
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And he, that's where he writes all the notes he gets of advice that he picks
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up from us and our guests. And I just think that's awesome.
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I think we should apologize. I'm like, sorry. Yeah.
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You could have been listening to magic discourse and you know.
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Sorry. Yes. Somehow you've ended up here. That's it.
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And to start things off, we have a speak pipe, which I encourage everyone to
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leave us voice messages to play on the podcast.
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You can do that through our website or speakpipe.com forward slash the magic guys.
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This one is from our fellow listener, Billy Fisher.
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Let's see what Billy's up to. Norbito. I've got a bone to pick with you,
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as doug might say was doing magic for
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some high school kids the other day and i decided to close with
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a new deck murder finisher did a couple pharaohs and
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reveal that it's a new deck order and one of
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the kids just says i know how you did that if you do eight of those shuffles
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it goes back to the exact order you started it and didn't exactly know how i
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did it but knew that that was the method and i was like oh you know from talking
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to him after i kind of ruined my finish he knew knew who you were from Instagram
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and he showed me your profile and I was like, golly.
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So I had to call and share that with you. And then lastly, Nick,
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I heard you say in a recent episode that you knew Craig Chapman.
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That's a guy that I would love to hear from on the podcast. I have his material
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and really like the things that he does.
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If that could happen, it's a podcast that I would love for you guys to do.
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So just a suggestion, if you could get him on, I would love it. Thanks, guys.
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Oh i'd like to have this guy now and i liked his vibe yeah thanks billy with
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your good energy yeah and another thing nick can you bring back batman that'd be really cool.
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Uh did you expose the pharaoh shuffle you're not an exposer well tell me is
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that exposing i i just made a video where if you do eight perfect pharaohs you
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end up back in the same order is that is that it so funny that someone who never
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exposes anything gets called out.
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Yeah i know right i got busted because of
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norbido and his social media magic i finally
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made it to colorado where did he say he
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was calling in from i made it somewhere other than man
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when you're influencing young minds you're making
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a difference this is you know you change that young child's
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you know perception of the universe well in
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the same breath you know sometimes people give pseudo explanations and they
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assume it's entirely true you know like
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i'm sure that wasn't billy's effect
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it wasn't him doing eight pharaohs to end up
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back in you know like that wasn't the trick he did because i
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talked to him a little bit afterwards it had nothing
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to do with the effect but because he knew a shuffle can
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put something back in order he just assumed that
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was what was going on but and it's worth
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considering actually for that to become common knowledge as
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i really was considering a memorized deck alan
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ackerman champions this memorized deck as did
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mike i think mike skinner used it as well you
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go two shuffles away from new deck order you know so you give it six pharaohs
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memorize that and now you're always two shuffles away from new deck right that's
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pretty valuable or i think alan uses uh all aces all twos all threes all fours
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that kind of sequence yeah yeah that's becoming public knowledge maybe that's not the best way to go.
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Interesting damn exposure gentlemen i will say it is an interesting plot in
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magic and that's what we're here to discuss today amongst all of our friends
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and a quick shout out to our friends who are here live in the chat we have drago
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nick good to see you pal scotty poo thomas tim ed.
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Seth thank you all for being here i think i did see my good friend dairy davis there as well good
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to see you pal so today's topic is card
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plots thanks we
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we got so carried away chatting about this backstage we actually started the
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podcast two minutes late because we got so carried away with it because we're
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debating plots that are one are good and two that just suck and so we we drift
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well a good friend daddy doug drafted up a quick list and i think we don't
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even have to talk about it it's all written down you can take notes and
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read them at home there that's exactly just you've already
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got all you need to know excellent learner you
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can go to bed now so if i may i say that we
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start off with a trick we describe the effects and then
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we discuss starting with trick number one doug so
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worst trick ever the 21 card trick if
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you're doing a trick of any kind where you have to deal piles of
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cards your spectators are vomiting in
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the inside side of their head neck discuss okay
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so i want to cut trick which i think people
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experience you know it's just it's a bit could we
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call it a mathematical type effect in in in a sense where you make piles of
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cards using a total of 21 cards and then through a series of making piles you
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decipher what their playing card is i think the reason i dislike it is just purely that.
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There is not enough moments of magic in
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a time span i'm the type of guy that likes a reaction every
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10 to 30 seconds whether it be a laugh or a
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magic moment or in some sort of fun interaction like
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it is a good time and that is just a kind of laborious task i think in a sense
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and guys in the chat you're welcome to share your thoughts as well we'd love
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to share them on the pod but But I think that even worse when the person performing the trick,
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as is usually the case, has no professional experience or sense of what it's
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like to make something entertaining.
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So when it is time to deal those rows of seven cards, or like you said,
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let's just put mathematical trick or any dealing trick that takes time.
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If you're not making that process interesting, you're doing it wrong.
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So that's the lesson. And these can be good tricks, but most people don't want
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to take the time to figure out those jokes and by play and things that are going
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to make dealing procedures interesting and.
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It's easy to make the second choice anyway. So just make that choice and not do that trick.
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I, I challenge someone to make it interesting.
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I bet there is a way if you actually wrote a script and cause the problem that
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we're explaining is there's just nothing happening during the boring part.
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But if someone was to take it on and make a story,
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a rhyme questioning that's happening, like, you know, obviously just learn how
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to force that doesn't take five minutes to do, but like just learn how to force
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a card and then you can just bypass the, all of that.
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There's some great methods for this trick, but you're hitting the nail on the
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head there, which is, you know, make it interesting.
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Absolutely. Now there's, there's an effect. So talking about dealing,
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being laborious and boring, Steve Cohen at the chamber of magic.
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20 year running best magic show I've ever seen in New York.
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Look, he ends with a trick that actually involves a lot of dealing and he only,
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I actually feel like it might actually be a little too much dealing,
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but he closes with it and gets a big reaction, but he does it in,
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he tries to do it in such a speed that it looks like, like I'm trying not to
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waste your time kind of thing.
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And he does say a few things as he's dealing it, but not to where it's like
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engaging or there's jokes.
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So I just want to throw that out there. There is an effect that someone very
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reputable in our field does that actually does a lot of dealing.
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I don't really have a tradition. The traditional saying is there's no bad tricks,
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just bad performers is generally the case.
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And as we, you know, talk about bad tricks, it's not that.
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No, exactly. It's not. No, I don't know why I'm saying, I'm just saying there
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is an effect out there of someone we love who does do a trick that does a lot
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of dealing. If you want to watch it, I'm going to look at the comments in a
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second, because I feel like there's something funny there by Doug's face.
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But if you want to see him do this performance, now it's actually a Juan Tamariz
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effect, which is why it's so good and worth doing.
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But if you watch Steve Cohen's performance on Google, on YouTube,
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he did a talk for Google, you'll see him do this effect. It's called like the
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three coincidences effect.
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And I used to do it for a little while. I enjoyed performing it,
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but I just realized, oh my God, I'm spending way too much time.
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Is that the two deck trick, red, blue shuffled together?
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Yeah that's right that's right that's right it is
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actually amazing but there's a lot of dealing but the 21
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card trick it can fuck right off anyway mike mentioned the version in my book
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specifically created to do for other magicians and let me tell you what it gets
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to the point there's no bs so yeah there is a version of it in my book because that's.
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To synopsisize this and move on to the next one, I guess we can comfortably
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say that there are no bad tricks, just bad performers.
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And that it's not something to be dismissed or written off.
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But it is something that if you are going to tackle, you probably want to look
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at its inequities, look at what makes it a weak effect, and do whatever you
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can to elevate the trick.
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Because there was an interesting lecture from Mario Lopez where he said it's
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very difficult to take a trick that's been around for a long,
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long time and is awesome and make it even better.
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But you can take an absolute porridge trick that would be like a C plus in a
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classroom and you can make a C plus student an A plus student because there's room. I love that.
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Yeah. Jeff Hobson and the egg bag. Perfect example.
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So please do not dismiss it by all means. It's something
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that if you're going to walk away from this podcast thinking anything about
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the 21 card trick is that it's not great but
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it could have potential so think about yes done probably
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probably leave it but yeah it's going
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to take some work all right next one we have
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a suggestion here from nick who's saying the story deck plot
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and i think this is worth discussing so the for those
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of you who are not aware of the story deck plot it's effectively an
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effect where the magician will have a pack of playing cards do
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a whole series of shuffles and then be able to tell a
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story with the card so for example there was a couple of redheads and
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a couple of brunettes and then in that moment you would
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deal the two red queens and the two black queens and this
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is most commonly well when i first
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was exposed to this it was through an effect called sam the
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bellhop which was popularized by bill malone
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in he made it right no it's actually
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like 100 years old quite a very very old effect
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but he's gotten around it and done a beautiful presentation frank
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everhart a bar magician from i
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believe chicago created sam the bellhop well
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that's not chicago frank everhart yeah so so that was called sam the bellhop
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it was if you do want to reference it you can google it and see the performance
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or if you want to learn it you can learn it from his on the loose dvd series
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which i believe was released through lnl but seth howard also makes a really
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good actually it's he released that as a standalone item did he.
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Put it on the on the series i believe he's also released the deck as well there's
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an actual sam the bellhop deck which you can get through bill malone where it
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comes i just remember when i learned it it was a standalone project released
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on its own sam malone i say.
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Yeah cheers was on television at the time woody harrison was just a bartender
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but seth howard Howard makes another comment, which is the 673 King Street,
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which I believe is referencing our Aussie friend.
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James Galea. James Galea. Thank you. He's going to be mad that I didn't remember that.
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Yeah. So it's a good plot. It's a very good plot.
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And it's not something that's utilized all too often. And if I could share a
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quick story from my own personal experiences, when I did my very first festival
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show at the Melbourne Magic Festival, I opened with Sam DeBellhop.
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And one of the best bits of feedback I ever got was from Helda Gramirez,
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an amazing FISM winning magician from Portugal, who said,
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you have a very good eye for strong magic, but
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you're good enough to make your own material and the first thing he said was
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you opened with story deck and you're good enough to make your own go make your
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own so thoughts on story deck well i can say i do have my own that i do in theaters
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at the end of showman i we close our show with it.
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Thanks dad and instead of story deck it's called love story and it's a love
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song that i actually had produced and made and yeah all the moves and stuff
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it's in it's yeah it's about did you write the music for it?
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Yeah. Well, so, so what I did was it's a custom song I wrote.
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So, so first what I did was, if you want to know, I figured out what are,
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so instead of a dealing story deck, this is a sleight of hand story deck.
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So I'm doing slights and pop outs and vanishes to the song.
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I sat down and I was like, what are all the moves I could do to a song?
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And then I was like, and what words could be tagged to these moves?
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Moves, like, you know, her heart vanished or, you know, just like what are all
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like the cringiest, you know, love story kind of things.
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So we took all those phrases. I sat down with this artist, R&B artist,
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and we just composed a thing for it to make sense.
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And I was like, I need this many beats to be able to perform this part of the effect.
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So it was like, all right, I'll make the, you know, I'll drag out that line.
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And yeah, so we spent like a full day jamming this thing and then he properly produced it and stuff.
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I love that. What a great crossover for your two art forms that you love, right?
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I was pretty proud of it. And then Australia's Got Talent was like,
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we don't want that on our show. I was like, okay, sure.
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And then, and then, and now it, yeah, resurfaced. And that's what I used.
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We used to close our, yeah, theater shows and showmen.
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And the very last move is that the two cards have found each other and then
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they turn into one, which is the two of hearts.
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And then And that changes into rose petals and I sprinkle them on the card mat and then.
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The show ends. I'll probably, I have a video of me doing this in QPAC,
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which is our biggest theater in, in Queensland.
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Eventually I'll put that out as its own video. So it can just live on the internet.
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But anyway, all I'm saying is story deck. I enjoy it. I have my own now.
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And the good thing about it is the procedure is like you delivering a presentation.
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So it stops that monotonous.
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I've started writing my own story deck as well but i'm only two cards in so it's not a lot.
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What are the two cards you're gonna have to wait and see okay i lied with only
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one card it's okay i started doing magic when i was eight years old that's all
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i got i actually hit the creative wall and i can also say nick i've seen you
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do an impromptu story deck with your magic sports.
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Yeah, we've done a lot of impromptu stuff and we tend to try and stack the deck
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in such a way that it's a genuine mix, but at least we all get four kings each.
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And if you have a king, you put it to the bottom and serve it last.
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So you can say that it's a four king good trick.
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But as far as story decks goes, it is a really good effect.
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It's certainly, you know, for a place and a purpose.
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Like I think it's more to be propagated towards the stage slash parlor realm.
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As opposed to doing close-up roving sort of stuff, because the reset would be
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a little laborious and so forth.
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That's a great social trick. You do this at the bar or at your family dinner.
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People love the story deck.
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Maybe not a great commercial. Like you said, high-energy stuff.
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Yeah, it's a really good effect. I'm reminded of two things when I think of story deck.
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One is there is a version that Danny Garcia does where it's like an impromptu
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fully shuffled and he just controls like two cards and he makes it up as you
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go along because his comedic value is good enough to him to sort of freestyle through.
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But he just glances a couple of cards on top and maybe he puts a two to the
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bottom and he just makes it up as it goes along and it's quite funny.
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You can also have a stack deck and project that image, which is an approach
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Mike Amar and Eric Mead both endorse in the art of astonishment and,
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so you pretend doing it but you
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don't really yeah oh that's a fun
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idea there was another version that my friend Alex Stella
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Ramballi is his name and he was doing a version of it was very political at
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the time and he was talking about this is a time where our prime minister Julia
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Gillard which was a red-headed woman so he was using the queens red queens to
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tell the story and then made it a a very political speech and then basically
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said, and everyone had their humble pie pie,
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which is 3.142, blah, blah, blah.
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And he just spreads the deck. Yeah, that's fun.
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So that's cool. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's the stuff you find your moments.
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So story deck. We like, we like, by the way, we're going to get to like sort
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of our, as a professional at the, towards the end, we'll get to like the list
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of plots. We do recommend.
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No, I'm going to keep doing in the gutter. I'm going to, I'm going to go dark side.
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Okay let's all right let's keep going you could be dark side we'll be jedi,
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what do we have so i got this any trick where you're slapping cards out of my
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hand means i'm gonna slap them right back out of your hand i hate that if i do this and you smack me,
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i'm coming right back at you amen yeah the trick the name of that trick i got
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this from stefan who's been on our podcast i didn't know this credit oh yeah.
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It's clearly right here designed for laughter.
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It's in the Royal road of card magic. One of the worst card magic books ever.
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In my opinion, that's designed for laughter to, to smack someone in like to
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physically assault someone while they're holding a pack of plank.
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It's recommended all the time. I don't know why. I hate that.
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It's just, it's because it sounds prestigious.
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Right. Okay. I mean, years ago, maybe it was the best thing going. Okay.
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Reasons. I dislike it. If I may, I dislike it because I just think it's not
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a nice experience to slap things out of people's hands, period.
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Like you wouldn't slap a drink out of their hand. You wouldn't,
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there's just, there's not any scenario I can think of to smack something out
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of somebody's hands unless they were about to drink poison, right?
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Like, I just don't think that's a nice experience.
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Number two, when you're in a situation where you slap cards out of someone's
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hand or if someone does it to you and then your cards then fall to the floor,
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you then got to pick those cards up and then go to the next group of people
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to perform for. Now, then I'm handling things that have been on the floor.
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I quite literally, if I drop a card on the floor, I'm like, well,
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if I can't play with the others, I can't play at all. And I kick it under a
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table and I leave it there.
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And I don't bring that card back into the fold. I just don't.
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There's some professional advice, you know.
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That's a killer tip, Nick, you know. It's probably not even worth the time to pick up, much less.
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No, and when people try to, and people, oh, let me go. No, no,
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no. I'm not going to have you touching things that have fallen on the floor.
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And they go, well, thank you for making me feel so classy.
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Like that's the exchange you have so those are
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my two reasons i dislike it i'm sure there's
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got to be something better there but i'm going to cut it off anyone
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else i mean aside from also being hackneyed like
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if you do that trick you probably you're comparing yourself to
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drunk joe at the local dive bar who does
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it every night for the regulars and everyone's seen him do it so
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that's the class you want to be with that's what you're doing
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if you're doing that thing yeah i understand the
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idea of it being random like the
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fact that you know i hit all those cards out
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and just one happened to be in there that was like i i
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get why people think it's a good idea but yeah i don't want cards falling on
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the ground and it's mainly the falling on the ground bit i don't mind the hitting
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bit because you're just hitting the cards but they have to go everywhere and
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it's just not classy and like there's so many better card plots which we'll
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get to so that's all i have to say.
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I like Dragotea said the Doug slop shuffle. That should be a shuffle is what does that involve?
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You do the slop shuffle while we were, we were talking about the slop shuffle
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before I was in the discord for an hour or two before the podcast,
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we were talking about tricks and Nick mentioned that one, like maybe one that
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could be on the list, I actually, with the chat GPT, I went to artificial intelligence
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and asked it and it's on the list, the slop shuffle, it can be underwhelming.
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If not performed with sufficient skill or
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charisma it's a little is that what
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it said yeah wow could i could i say something off the back of that i have a
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friend who is one of the best card guys i know his name is chihan yo and i love
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him to bits and every time i jam with him i i walk away with like learning something
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he shares like one little plot or one little idea and i just take
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it and run and make like six routines out of it.
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Now he has a version of the slop shuffle, which is in the form of a triumph type routine.
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For those of you who don't know what a triumph routine is, is when a card might
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be selected, you shuffle pack face up and a face down.
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You show all the cards mixed. And then with a magical gesture,
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all the cards correct themselves bar one card, which remains face down.
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Okay. If you don't know what triumph is, please stop listening to this podcast.
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Don't you listen to Josh. He's a dick. Okay. No matter what level of magic you
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are in, If this is the first time you're here to us, you are all very welcome
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to be here, and we appreciate you listening.
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Unless you do the slap trick. Unless you do the slap trick. But Scotty P has
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a good take on it. I want to talk about it.
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Yeah, that's true. Now, the way he presents this is he does it in this kind
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of like, this is the thing about life.
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Sometimes things are topsy-turvy, upside down. You don't know which way is up,
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which way is down, and life can be a little out of control.
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But with a little bit of magic, everything will sort itself out.
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And you'll find yourself charisma, see, like, so again, you can polish any turd.
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You just got to freeze it first.
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Bang, bang. I like the shot. I like the slop shuffle. Use it a lot.
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Jay Sankey's back in time is my preferred trick with it. And I suggest that
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people don't do it sloppy enough.
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Like it's a little too studied when they do this thing, you know,
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what I'm doing, it's like, and some cards are falling down,
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dropping and stuff and i'm just not even looking you
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know what's really true slop shuffle this
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is gonna blow your mind slop shuffle with invisible deck oh
24:39
baby you ever tried that stuff so the trick the trick there is triumph with
24:45
the invisible deck yeah that's a shaken not stirred originally by and steve
24:50
bedwell another tidbit i i remember that tricking up i i remember learning this
24:56
false shuffle by michael vincent which
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just looks like this it's just like a little over under kind of
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thing and if you combine that with the
25:05
slop shovel because the slop shuffle you end up like this hang on so you've
25:08
got your you know back to back and you want god if you do that shuffle with
25:14
this it looks like you're shuffling and seeing all these cars like face up and
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face down throughout the whole
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thing but you and then you do your move and you've got your you know your
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ending and so yeah just doing that
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little shuffle after the slop shuffle makes it
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look like they really are all mixed up in between it yeah slop
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shuffle i look i think that there's probably a time and a place for it and again
25:36
just what are we what are we to conclude about the slop shuffle i think that
25:41
triumph as a plot is amazing i do a triumph but i use a cull i it's inspired by.
25:48
The roadrunner cull and a presentation that james brown does on his professional.
25:55
Opportunist dvd set he does a thought of triumph and and i love those those
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handlings on that so i don't use the slop shuffle but i think triumph because
26:04
we're sort of touching upon two things here triumph great routine i mean what
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the mythology of triumph was it was vernon's son,
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that said if you were to be able to achieve this effect it would be like your
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triumph like he quite quite literally said it in that sounds like some BS Vernon
26:18
made up no yeah probably well here's what Vernon's son said father can you please be a father yeah,
26:27
it wasn't a great guy pretty funny,
26:36
Ben Earl, Ben Earl does a slop shuffle in a triumph version.
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He does. That's actually a psychological triumph where the spectator does like
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the second half of the, it all going back to normal, but in their hands.
26:50
And if it's good enough for Ben Earl to do a slop shuffle, then I think it's good enough for me.
26:56
Okay. I feel like I've just alienated the whole Vernon.
27:02
I'm not allowed on the West coast anymore. more everyone's taking down their
27:06
vernon posters and putting up marlo ones because of what you've just said i
27:09
hope you're happy doug oh no i'm gonna shit talk marlo with his wife later hang on.
27:17
Okay okay before we go slandering more and
27:20
more people i think that let's just take away that as far
27:22
as the triumph plot is brilliant and number two the slob
27:26
shuffle has a place you just
27:29
got to bring the riz and i think that it'll it'll
27:32
serve you well there is something that's constantly being repeated
27:35
in the chat i'd like to bring to everyone's attention scotty p
27:37
mentioned no more kissing spectators i believe that
27:40
he's referring to french kiss nick oh yeah referring to nick that just kisses
27:46
all the spectators i kiss all the boys no that trick really should have been
27:50
outlawed before it was embedded like it's like do you guys know anyone that
27:56
still is working that routine,
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no i certainly know that our good friend ben's not
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doing that anymore from the cruise ship situation which is even funnier because
28:04
it is a comment here that says how about slapping a folded card out of their
28:09
mouth until the tongue goes through it's by jeff and i think that's funny because
28:14
our good friend ben was performing this on a cruise ship and he got bopped for.
28:20
For a a a don't be throwing good friend around
28:23
so whimsically you could drop cards on the ground
28:26
and then put them in a spectator's mouth here put
28:29
these in your just yeah and then and then
28:32
uppercut them and only one why just smack
28:35
it this is something lj could be doing as
28:38
a wrestler and give it the
28:41
macho man yeah and absolutely
28:45
that actually l by the way great episode
28:48
by the way i i wasn't on the episode but it was so it was
28:51
so um fun it's the first time i've been
28:54
able to do it in a long time to just actually listen to an episode
28:56
and i have no idea what's coming up great work guys yeah
28:59
that's very fun to listen to what's a fun one yeah yeah okay
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but yeah kissing spectators i want to talk one one second about triumph because
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look on this lip from chat gpt number two is this the pick a card any card tricked
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so it says while the classic premise can lead to great tricks many versions
29:19
are executed poorly with no real climax or
29:21
surprising element. I think here's the problem.
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When you say pick a card, any card leading into your pick a card trick,
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your spectator feels like they might've already seen this effect. Oh, I've seen that.
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So if you're going to do triumph, maybe don't start it with pick a card, any card.
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It could be perceived as hack Nate. That makes a lot of sense.
29:44
Like if I said, if I just started singing, Mary had a little lamb,
29:47
you'd be like, I know this jam. You'd be like, no, no, no, this is different.
29:49
This is different. This is an R and B version. Like it's quite literally.
29:53
Really i can think of yeah it makes a lot
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of sense now i kind of feel people like to pick a card you
29:59
know i think people really do like to pick one pick a
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card oh we're having fun but maybe just don't say those words
30:05
when you're doing tricks that need a selected card like trying
30:08
maybe maybe say points to
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a card or i like to dribble cards and
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say stop say stop say stop and or riffle
30:18
through i'm gonna stop dribbles are great options
30:21
yeah so efficient too yeah i think just
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i think options where they say stop well maybe you're
30:27
drilling cards at the table just say stop when you're ready say stop so maybe like
30:30
say stop is a a different thing unless they make
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some trigger some sort of spice girl song stop i'm
30:37
gonna go on a small just a small side road here because on
30:40
the list which is a pet peeve of mine is tricks where the
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performer reclaims the card and
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inserts it so say someone has picked a card and they're
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holding it i think one of the worst things you can do is
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take that card back from them and put
30:56
it in the deck yourself yeah this is your spectator's card now they should put
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it back in the deck you should never reclaim it from them and this is where
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the dribble is a good option alleviating that moment or touch a car here just
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look at it but if they're going to hold the card they should put it back in the deck.
31:16
Interesting thought naming a card is another
31:19
way i mean i think that's how i get out of a lot of that josh has
31:22
been alice in wonderland with his little set i just name anyone i have it doug
31:28
i have to say i i got that from you telling me about your friend the busker
31:32
that says that right all right name a card and how would you like me to find
31:37
it i remember you telling me that are you making that a pretty standard part of your,
31:43
I, yeah, I say what, what, what way would impress you if I found that card and
31:49
then you're like a card, a card genie, you know, what more do you want?
31:55
It's so much fun to do that too. And there's so much banter or the other thing
31:59
is I'll introduce the, the prop.
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I'm going to use to find their card first, like a rubber band and be like,
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have you seen these? They're high-tech tension dispensers.
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Yeah. I'll show you what they do. Yeah. Take the deck, take out a card that you like.
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Back and i have not yet said pick a card so they take one out and now it's easily remembered.
32:16
Right and then once they've taken their card then i do this and i go okay put
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it back wherever you want and now we're in the same position of having just
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picked a card and put it back but,
32:28
they're thinking like what's going on with this rubber band what's why am i
32:31
holding this and so yeah anyway you can just say put it back if they're going
32:35
to put it back i i just approach
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them with a dribble so i try to avoid
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any verbal at all i'll just come towards them and offer the card and they'll
32:44
just go for it 99 of the time it's just the dynamic i've worked out i like that
32:49
yeah yeah very good very good i literally had an event i was working with another
32:55
magician mike tyler and i went to this table and he had just done invisible deck,
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deck and I was going to do my stack work.
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So I, I opened with the same line, which was think of a card and because he
33:09
had done invisible deck a different trick, but said, think of a card,
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the woman actually looked at me very like serious and was like,
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we actually saw that one.
33:19
Like we actually saw that one tonight when I said, think of a card. What do you mean?
33:24
You've seen what I, I'm like, oh, okay, cool. Cool.
33:29
Yeah. We'll think of a different one. And anyway, and it was funny cause she
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was really like, I don't mean in her head, like I don't mean to embarrass you, but we've done this one.
33:39
Can I, because I have my version of invisible deck, which you've seen,
33:43
Josh, and I make it a three-step process where I'll ask someone,
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I'll explain, cards are red or black.
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Could you please choose the color on behalf of this lovely group here?
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Do you want red ones or black ones?
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And they'll say red. And I'll go, great, that's going to be a heart or a diamond.
33:56
Would you like a heart or a diamond? Great.
33:58
And then explain this, 13 values, ace through 10.
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And it's just, it's one card being chosen by not saying, pick a card.
34:07
When they try to backtrack it, there's a logic trap. all
34:10
the way because did he make
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you say blah oh yeah he went and got all of us to say what he
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wants us to say like you know like there's this logic trap in
34:18
amongst that process so that might
34:21
be a fun way to sort of get i'm a big
34:24
fan of this approach use it all the time on the
34:27
street it's a great way to involve multiple spectators
34:30
in a direct effect and that's a great approach
34:33
for name a card well here's a
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plot if i if where i cater move on from this one where
34:39
don't say pick a card as far as a plot goes and it is the multiple card select
34:45
plot great plot great plot for working magicians there's nothing better than
34:51
getting multiple people involved at once like oh my god if there's a card trick
34:56
i could only pick one off to do it gigs it's it's that That one.
34:59
Yeah. Multiple car. Cause it's really six, you know, however many cars being
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selected. It's like four.
35:05
Car tricks in one go. 18 was my personal best when I was restaurant.
35:09
I was table hopping. I hit a banquet table with 18 people.
35:12
Yeah. Wow. See, and that's the thing, right? Like when you were trying to gain
35:17
everyone's attention, it's kind of important that when like at a table of 18
35:20
people, there's probably a lot of dynamic going back and forth.
35:23
It could be a group of three talking group of two group of two group of four,
35:26
and they're all engaged.
35:27
Age and if you can find those individual groups and break
35:30
them up by including them in a card selection process it's a
35:34
really great way to disrupt them in
35:37
such a way that the attention is now on you and then you gift them
35:40
the magic you're about let me be blunt at 18 it's
35:43
just for you really it's not about them anymore yeah look
35:47
yeah like man you just want to see if
35:50
you can do 18 different revelations seven or eight
35:53
is plenty five is really enough to
35:55
have a good time with multiple selection here's good
35:59
advice maybe you have a good beginning a good ending and a
36:02
couple middles that you know are killer and then if you feel like
36:04
your audience is into that you have a few other fill-ins you can zap in there
36:09
nice but yeah go in like plot go along on that is dangerous take it and run
36:15
absolutely i my clothes are usually yeah yeah i found that go on no you go,
36:22
No, I'm going to take it entirely. No, Hugo. No, Hugo.
36:27
For me, I found that six is the sweet spot, but I'll do eight if extra people
36:32
come over and watch with multiple confines.
36:35
I know Nick approaches it differently, which I really like as well.
36:39
But if, yeah, if I'm just having random cards picked, I'll do six,
36:42
but I'll have the sixth one signed so that they can't say, I don't remember
36:48
what my card is, and then we're screwed.
36:49
I can definitely do the ending no matter what, because I'll see the signature.
36:52
There's a little tip there, but that's all. Now you go.
36:57
Okay, so I've had an idea for a plot, and I want to share it with you guys,
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because I've not been able to get it off the ground thoroughly.
37:02
There's a few different ways it can go, and the plot is this.
37:07
The Uncheatable Deck. deck and the premise is
37:10
really stupid so i'm going to share it with you guys the premise is this
37:12
people say things like oh you know would you can
37:15
you come to me the casino but they don't know that they actually
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use uncheatable decks at the
37:21
casino and they're like what okay yeah you can't cheat
37:24
with the decks at the casino let me explain and then you grab
37:27
out like some nuggets like jerry like jerry's nuggets
37:30
like i see like a casino deck and you explain like this
37:33
is a this is a deck of playing cards and then so one of the examples that
37:35
i gave was that let's say for example someone were
37:38
to say stop and i dribble the cards and they see the four
37:41
of hearts but when i go to look at it it changes to the three of
37:44
diamonds and it's this whole premise like
37:47
i can't cheat because if i cheat the cameras will
37:49
catch me and um i tried to do the second
37:52
deal can't do it yeah yeah yeah
37:57
and that's the thing right so that's the whole
38:00
premise of like it's because the reason i wanted
38:03
going to do it is i wanted to that and
38:06
this is going to be a segue into gambling demonstrations which we
38:10
were talking about beforehand doug you you made some
38:12
very interesting comments about gambling demonstrations well a modern audience
38:17
might find them and they're often laborious dealing procedures boring well my
38:22
idea of combating that was to make it a comical sort of experience in which
38:26
you try to cheat and in the gambling demonstration but it's not working and it's more fun.
38:32
Or if I try to cheat, it doesn't work. But if I can cheat for you or something
38:36
of that nature, I had this whole premise where I had a dealer chip.
38:39
And if I had the dealer chip, it wouldn't work because it knows I'm the dealer and I can't cheat.
38:44
But if I give you the dealer chip, then I can cheat with this deck because that's how it works.
38:50
And so that was one of the premises I created with this deck.
38:53
And then I had another version. So I just became up with multiple ideas, but not routine them.
38:56
I had one version of it where the deck locks itself if you cheat so many times.
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And I basically got a whole deck of playing cards and super glued it all together
39:04
so you can't actually do anything except a little bit of this.
39:07
And so I'm like, and they try to like, and you can't do anything with the deck
39:11
and the idea is just like, oh, you got to put the security code in and then
39:15
I have a gaff which is like those lockers where you twist.
39:21
Tim Spinoza's deal. The combination deck.
39:25
The combination lock where you actually have a combination lock and you have
39:27
to go left, right, and then it unlocks the deck and then you can spread it again.
39:31
And I was like, oh, I wonder how many times I can cheat before the deck locks
39:36
itself because it keeps track of things.
39:39
And so I played with this whole different premise. So it's, in my opinion,
39:43
it's a plot that doesn't exist.
39:44
And I chatted about this many, many years ago, jamming with other really,
39:48
really talented magicians at Magic Live.
39:51
And it was some, I can't recall who it was, but I just said,
39:54
you just came up with a new plot in Magic.
39:56
And I'm like, cool. And I think it was me. I think Nick Lawrence was there and a bunch of others.
40:01
And I was like, let's meet back here next year and see what we've come up with.
40:05
And then covet happened and we never got to sort of get that
40:08
idea off the ground but i may need to kick it in again in a
40:11
couple of weeks time it's definitely a routine like that's
40:15
worth it i mean obviously it's worth exploring but yeah i
40:18
mean you could like take out the four aces but then when you go to deal
40:21
them they've changed to crappy cards for
40:25
a poker hand for sure i like it yeah do it or if
40:27
you let them face up and every time you try to deal to yourself it doesn't
40:30
go to you but you can deal to somebody else so there's like
40:33
this second like ortiz dealing routines where you say you're
40:36
gonna deal yourself the four kings and the four kings end up
40:39
over here and then you got the aces
40:42
maybe as a kicker i guess that's cheating so that one you can take it a lot
40:47
of places is where it's at i guess from i guess the question i'm asking you
40:50
and our audience is like should we explore the uncheatable deck plot yay or
40:59
nay let us know in the chat
41:00
let us know when it
41:03
comes to while they're while they're letting us know when it
41:06
comes to gambling demonstrations i know that i don't
41:09
do any there was a time where there was one routine that
41:12
bill malone put out in the the malone meets marlo series where it was a funny
41:18
deck demo gambling demonstration where he would deal like five cards to everyone
41:22
and then when everyone looked he had like 40 cards he's like oh yeah i think
41:27
i got you beat and it was like a funny version.
41:30
Which was good, but I, I it's dropped off from my memory now.
41:34
Cause I just, I think even that was not yet enough entertainment for me to be
41:40
dealing that's as direct as it gets.
41:44
That's a no, no downtime at all. Yeah.
41:48
Yeah. But do you, Nick or Doug do any gambling routines, like demonstration
41:54
routines? Only for myself.
41:56
Yeah. It's like card porn, you know, no one, no one in the public.
42:00
Like should see it yeah it's just.
42:09
Magical masturbation well my friend she and I was telling you about he taught
42:13
me some beautiful effects that that are really out of the vein of that I actually
42:18
just recently bought Jason the Danny's book as well the the deception what's
42:22
it called it's just up there so it's something that just because I'm not like
42:26
pro it doesn't mean I'm against it but,
42:29
It's, it's something that I do do for myself. And every now and again,
42:32
when you meet someone, they'll ask you, can you gamble?
42:36
Can you this and you that, and you give them a demonstration of what that might look like. Right.
42:39
And I think what's important is that you shouldn't be anti gambling,
42:45
gambling demonstrations purely because all good card magic is based off card cheating.
42:53
So if you have that, I have a gambling demo.
42:56
I was recently reviewing. I have put together a sequence for public viewing
43:01
of demonstrating gambling techniques.
43:04
I think it's really important to keep it simple, like dealing these five card
43:08
poker hands with games no one plays anymore.
43:10
You know, here's what I think. People understand high card.
43:14
So you can demonstrate like cutting the aces. They understand the game of blackjack.
43:18
So if you do something that involves a blackjack, they could,
43:21
you know, that could appeal to the lady.
43:23
And then if you do a very quick like royal flush production that's something
43:28
they can understand and if you're doing much more than that i hope it's just
43:33
for yourself in your bedroom late at night in your mom's basement agreed.
43:40
Oh i oh i just came to mind that doesn't get a lot of love may i share it let's
43:46
go six card repeats Oh, that was questionable for me. I almost put that on the negative list.
43:53
You know who talked me out of it? Bob Possum.
43:56
Oh, that trick was probably not cool 30 years ago, but it's probably cool again
44:02
because no one's been doing it.
44:04
I almost started doing it when
44:06
I watched Paul Daniels Bravura set and he teaches him doing it basically.
44:12
And he has it as a, he has it as a filler trick in case he needs to fill time. He can just bust it out.
44:18
But yeah i'm not doing it i can't
44:21
say i've ever done it professionally tim ellis
44:25
has a six card rap and he
44:28
does a full rap sequence i have rhyming patter on
44:31
the questionable list yeah so so there's
44:35
two there's two elements here of like white guy
44:38
rapping forces yeah so like
44:41
rapping the six card repeat it's does massive
44:44
things it's taken him all over the planet this particular routine i think he
44:47
has released it since then they were very mad about it when they did and it's
44:52
just like it's got to go around sometime but i have to mention that i i saw
44:56
a version of it most recently when i went and saw fizzum winner hector mancha perform this trick.
45:04
And it was really good because he
45:09
had a selection and then he was like okay cool he took five cards out and was
45:15
like staring at them very funny like to like remember them like cool and he
45:20
just put it in wait a second and he just like looked at him again they put the
45:22
card in and he goes cool how many chances do i have to get this correct.
45:27
And it's like, he's got a one in six chance of getting this right. You know what I mean?
45:30
And then he'll be like, your card, this. Okay, start again. I have one,
45:33
two, three, four, five, six.
45:34
Give me three chances. Not this one. Not this one. Not this one.
45:37
We'll start again. I have one, two, three, four, five, six cards.
45:40
And so he's trying to find the card, but keeps getting it wrong.
45:45
And he was like, we'll start again. So it's a very cool presentation.
45:50
And I really enjoyed how it was done. You know what?
45:53
Now that you're telling me a good version of Sixth Car Repeat,
45:56
Pete, I'm just remembering the other good version, which is the one David Williamson
46:00
teaches on his penguin lecture, which is designed for kids, which is the five card trick.
46:06
And he's like, do you know how many cards you need for this? Five, one, two, three.
46:09
Oh, is it the four card trick? Actually, it's, it's actually the three card trick is the name of it.
46:15
Actually you're right. Yeah. And that's right. And you have four and you're
46:18
like, oh, damn it. I gotta get rid of one.
46:20
That one is actually wonderful. Because you're just getting a few cards for
46:25
it and you can, it's, kids love it because they're like, it's like the sucker trick.
46:29
No, they want a point. Like, no, there's actually four.
46:32
Yeah, that's fine. All right. Should we, you know, with 12 minutes left,
46:35
should we maybe go through the plots that we do use professionally?
46:40
Like our sort of go-tos maybe?
46:42
Yeah. One of them. I'll kick it off by saying ambitious card.
46:46
Yeah. Yeah. So let's say you go into a gig. you
46:49
can only do card tricks let's say and you've got
46:52
to do 10 minutes to a group or something
46:55
like what what are like the main plots you feel
46:58
like are going to be the strongest for you
47:01
like for you that you do not to say they have to be the
47:04
best ones ever the ones that you're going to fire off well
47:07
for me personally i do a lot of like a lot of transposition stuff so
47:10
i'll do like card in the box type routines and different
47:14
versions of that like the card to box card to pocket type stuff so anything
47:17
where transpositions are strong because my my
47:20
belief is that anything that you see on a grand
47:22
scale where it be illusions if you
47:25
could like make a car vanish and make it appear somewhere else make a person vanish
47:28
make them appear somewhere else it's like one of the coolest things that can
47:31
happen in a theater show so if you can emulate that in a close-up setting even
47:35
though you're doing it with something as primitive as a pack of playing cards
47:38
it's still like what it's going to be the strongest effect they're going to
47:42
experience because that's normally the the coolest thing you see at a grand
47:44
illusion show. So that's my thought process.
47:47
So I focus on that. The multiple card select is also super important.
47:54
I use as the finish to the multiple selection also as a standalone often.
47:59
And sometimes I'll do it with two or three cards, but I think card to wallet
48:03
is invaluable for any close up stage.
48:08
It's just a great workhorse. So I guess the, a card to impossible location plot
48:13
as a whole is quite. Yeah.
48:15
Yeah. Which is similar to what Jeff was writing up the homing card where the
48:19
card keeps going back to a certain place. Oh yeah. Isn't awesome.
48:22
Like What's a bad card to impossible location?
48:25
What would be a bad possible impossible location?
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Like I could think of one from the jerks, but I don't really want to go there.
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I saw, I saw a Chris corn performance once where he shat the deck out of his
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pants. And then the wrong card emerged.
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Yeah. Reputation maker. That one, that was maybe not the best one.
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I love that. Actually on hindsight, that might've been the best one. Nevermind.
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Like where, where's a bad place thing. to
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okay like the exclusion of a transposition
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like in a french kiss but to an impossible location it's like
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dude you shouldn't do that you should here's one that i question myself
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on this is a trick that i like to do actually card to
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forehead perform only this
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can make your spectator seem foolish right
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in a sense you're making fun of
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the spectator on stage you know you get a card stuck on
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your head they don't notice it's there yeah so
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there's one my two cents is i only do
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that trick if they're already playing the fool and
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they're heckling and they're amongst friends that yeah
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will you know i only do it if it presents itself as that guy is sort of being
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a bit of a dick yeah i have removed it from my repertoire as much over the last
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couple years opting out of it kind of for that reason it's like yeah we can
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make better choices yeah when you get to know it when,
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when you get to know it all then it's fun um right but that's all yeah i mean
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i'll do it to the point where like i do a card to mouth and i just put it in
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the corner so i can still speak really comfortably and do what i gotta do and
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i'll do it like it's like in part of my ambitious routine,
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where i'll do it in front of their face and go is that yours and then i'll bring
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it back down like this and put it back on the deck and give it a shuffle and
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go is that one and and it's like up this, but they don't see it because it's this instead of that.
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That's different because it's not about as much maybe...
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Someone on stage with you per se. No, no, no.
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I think in a stage setting, something like that is not a great time.
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But I think when we're in a close-up setting, it's super fun.
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You know, I feel like there's a different synergy when you have that,
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you know, when you sucker people in.
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And like, for example, last night I was performing at a uni lodge student accommodation.
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And, you know, I went over to a table just to say hi and do a small group.
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And before I knew it, it was four people deep. tape so just
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me and then students like around this one table like
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rather large table communal table and so
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i just sat there and gave them a really decent close-up show and that
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was one of the effects that i performed because you know every time i put a
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card down they would turn it over and check it and they were just like so hyper
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focused on what was happening here that i was like well let's dance in the shadows
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you know because they're the spotlight right now watching all the stuff i'm
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like this is gonna be great so yeah if i had to say three plots that i'm actively,
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going to use at a corporate gig.
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It's going to be the card to pocket, like the homing card, right?
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The card keep going to my pocket. And then it's a whole deck that's in my pocket.
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It's going to be multiple card find. Cause then you, it's really six card tricks
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in one. Cause you're revealing them all different ways.
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It's going to be that, that, and what would be the last one?
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I mean, then it's going to be named the name and card plot. So name a card and
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tell me how you want me to find it. It's going to be multiple card find and
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it's going to be, yeah, sign a card and it's kind of like ambitious,
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but it's going to keep going to my pocket.
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That would be the three hardest hitters from what I've acquired. Hmm.
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I don't think anyone mentioned the invisible deck. I'm a champion of that trick.
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I know Nick just makes cards appear out of thin air. In a sense,
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doing it with a memorized deck is kind of the same thing.
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But if you need a good trick in your repertoire, you can go buy an invisible
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deck. And you're doing a top three card trick tonight if you need to.
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Yeah. Nick actually has an invisible deck.
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But if you're a regular human and just need to pretend to be a magician this
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week, you can buy the invisible deck from conjure.com.
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That's right. If you added these this week, this is a great one that I keep in my bag.
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You mentioned like the six card repeat. If you need a few minutes for the side
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bit, I keep the three and a half of clubs in there.
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This can be a couple minutes of comedy, drama, mentalism. You know,
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you make a prediction, you force the seven of clubs and you tell them you've
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predicted half their card and they think, you know, it's the magician in trouble scenario.
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The three and a half of clubs shows up and everyone goes crazy.
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What? So you're saying whatever card you pick, I've got half of it.
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You don't know the three and a half of clubs.
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Yeah. You say, I'm going to shoot. You build it up real big.
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You make the prediction.
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You force the seven of clubs and you say, I'm not very good at this. I'm I'm like 50% good.
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So I'm probably like half, right? So whatever card you pick, just divide it in half.
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Like if you had the four clubs, make it the two of clubs, the two of hearts,
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the ace of hearts and face cards are worth 10.
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So divide your card in half. What do you get? The, the, the what the three and
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a, what'd you pick seven of clubs?
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Well, yeah, that'd be the three and a half of clubs. That's what I got. thank you very
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much and your next act is you know
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boom okay now now it
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all makes sense why i got a three and a half gimmicked card
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from sean piper once bro in my magic do me a favor do it one time at your next
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gig just one time okay and listen to watch the reactions off the chart question
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to the group long card is there any way of doing it where it's not crude because every time i've seen it
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done it's normally like you it's let's say it's like the three clubs you take
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out of your pants and they go it was the 10 of clubs and then you take the long
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card out of your business,
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you just mentioned that chris corn would produce the long card from his butthole.
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Is there a non-gross way to do this effect?
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I actually, I have a effect for the long card, removing it from a box or an
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envelope or something that is not long.
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So it's a, it's a production, a production, a little hackneyed,
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but now it's growing and linked out of need as opposed to just.
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You know, a package joke.
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Joke a coat pocket could be good actually because when you sort of
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say like i'm gonna make my prediction put it in my pocket and as you
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take it and you just sort of keep going out of
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your breast pocket that would be a good idea you have to make it you don't
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have to sort of tailor a long pocket but that's that's not a bad idea i actually
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have a vision like a pay envelope you know where you could clearly show it and
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then this thing just comes out yeah hey a plot we didn't cover i want to get
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your thoughts the biddle trick what do you think trick see the bill is good
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because it's a transposition little tricks killer yeah
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yeah yeah i just want to make sure we bring it up i don't know
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i don't know that everyone knows what it is so we
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should definitely have brought it up yeah the bit of i recently filmed a tutorial
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for the bit old trick for the new project i've been doing and called it one
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of the more important tricks a beginner will learn you know yeah like this is
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a trick you can get into right away and kill with it yeah my friend Sebastian Rodeau also known as Mr.
55:37
Marmalade does this trick and has been doing it for a
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thousand years so he does the middle trick right but
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he just back palms each card and gets
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rid of them one by one and then and then
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for the fifth one he'll like steal it real quick and then do it again and then
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he brings each one back but then the last one is like your card and then does
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the transposition into their neck I've never seen anyone get so much out of
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so little especially especially when it's like begin a trick and he does it so professionally.
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Like it's, it's killer. Yeah.
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Brian Saint, who we had as a guest on the podcast, he created his own variation
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on the Biddle trick as a, like a different performance, very worth exploring.
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It's in his lecture notes available on his website.
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His idea is instead of one card being picked and put amongst five,
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it's, you have five cards picked from different spectators and then they choose
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which one of theirs should be vanishing.
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And so it's more of a, it makes sense why there's five cards and it's like you
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impossibly made the one that they chose to disappear and end up anywhere that
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you want very worth exploring, but yeah, you're right. Biddle trick.
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Great go to effect. You can just boom, smash out.
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Yeah. I love it. I love it. I got to make sure there's no other tricks I need
56:59
to crap on here. We didn't talk about cards across.
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Oh, it's gold.
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Yeah, it is. It is gold. Yeah. As I mentioned, color money is dumb with the
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blue and the red diamond.
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Get out of here with those diamond cards. You can use the $14 card,
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but any trip that comes out of a vinyl wallet with specially printed junk on
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it, like the $14 cards, a good finish. The blue and red diamond thing.
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You can't even see what color they are in a dark room. What about the this and
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that version of that trick?
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You know, this, that, and the other. that's okay those are that's words you
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might have words on paper in real life but so i was walking through the street
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and this guy came up with a blue diamond and a red diamond yeah i could barely
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tell them apart to begin with but he asked me to put money on it.
57:51
Well, a couple of guys in the comments, both Chris and Nick,
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are saying oil and water. I love oil and water.
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I love it far more than I love out of this world.
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Oh, you didn't even talk about. Yeah, that's fair. Too procedural.
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We didn't even talk about Akon very quickly. What do you think about Akon?
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I mean, it's fun to do one, but what do you think about, do spectators appreciate
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it the same way they would appreciate a triumph or, you know,
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like a strong. because I really love Ozzy Wynn's Akon.
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I think it's the most direct and best fucking version I've ever seen.
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Hard to hate on that plot.
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Can't hate the plot. Totally. Same with Oil and Water.
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I know people like to hate it but truthfully it's a time-honored established
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classic and you can look at Rene LaVon doing it and influencing.
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We had him as one of the most influential close-up magicians.
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His exhibition on World's Greatest Magic opened the eyes of many people to them who loved it.
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And again, it's, it's probably on the scale of things, a B grade trick.
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And which means that you have an opportunity to bring it to the A plus realm.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, I think we covered a lot of plots here.
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I really love this. Keep it going in the discord, share your versions of your favorite car plots.
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We'd love to see your videos. And also for those who were here for Nigel's episode,
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the memory, the amazing Nigel, his memory PDF is in our Discord if you haven't
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checked it out already from a couple of weeks back. Awesome.
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Let's leave the final word of card plots to Doug, I think, this week.
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Thanks for watching. We'll see you next time.
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If you're going to get yourself the Jumbo 3 of Clubs, you're going to want to
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get also the Jumbo 52 on 1.
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This is how I get around the notion of having someone name a card.
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So if I'm going to do the invisible deck or the brainwave, I say,
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Hey, I got a psychic trick, reading minds, telling futures. Do you believe in that?
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I give you the three 99 a minute psychic friends rate.
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So just name a card, any card. And now if you present this card to your audience
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with the intent that you've already predicted the card, they'll have no trouble
1:00:03
just naming the card that comes to mind.
1:00:05
And you go, yep, it's right on there. The four of diamonds. and now you've had
1:00:09
them name their card and you can easily take out the trick you really meant
1:00:12
to do, the invisible deck or the brainwave or maybe it's card and phone.
1:00:16
And yeah, these are available at conjure.com. That's your final word.