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Hubby's 'PROS & CONS' LIST TO 'KEEP' PREGNANT WIFE Found After She is Found Dead · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous twenty eight year
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Speaker 1: old mom to be vanishes seemingly into thin air. What
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Speaker 1: happened to Jennifer? I mean, Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: and Series eleven. First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 1: Bo and Jennifer's romance begins while they are both studying
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Speaker 1: engineering at the University of Lussouri, Columbia, in twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 1: They say I do and move to Saint Louis for work.
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell is a chemical engineer at m Ecs Inc.
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Speaker 1: In Chesterfield. Bo Rothwell works at Ambateech now called Zachary
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Speaker 1: Engineering in the Saint Louis area. Soon, the couple turns
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Speaker 1: their eyes on becoming parents, and just one year later,
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Speaker 1: they get the good news a baby is on the way.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like a dream come true, and it is.
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Speaker 1: It's what everyone wants, the American dream. A beautiful home,
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Speaker 1: a lovely family, a baby finally on the way, awesome
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Speaker 1: careers in front of them. And then somehow, in the
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Speaker 1: midst of all this happiness, she disappears. Her family, your parents,
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Speaker 1: her husband, devastated. Take a listen to Robert Townsend ks DK.
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Speaker 1: I talked to Jennifer Rothwell's parents on the phone now.
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Speaker 1: They didn't want to go on camera. They're big concerned
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Speaker 1: is just hearing from their daughter. I'm gonna step back
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Speaker 1: and you can see right now. Saint Louis County Police
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Speaker 1: they are here sitting in two vehicles on Rothwell Street.
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Speaker 1: They've blocked off this street and the background there where
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Speaker 1: that light is on at the porch. Officers are going
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Speaker 1: in and outside this house. We believe that they are
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Speaker 1: searching in and out of this house again. The family's
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Speaker 1: house here off North Winds Drive in West Saint Louis County.
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Speaker 1: That all unhappy has been happening in the last few minutes. Again, Officers, detectives,
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Speaker 1: they look to me going inside this house searching for
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Speaker 1: possible evidence. I believe in connection with this woman's disappearance. Again,
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Speaker 1: this is what I know. Jennifer Rothwell as twenty eight
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Speaker 1: years old and married. She's five foot six inches tall.
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Speaker 1: She has long, light brown hair, curly hair. She weighs
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Speaker 1: about one hundred and fifty pounds now. She was last
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Speaker 1: seen leaving her West Saint Louis County house yesterday morning
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Speaker 1: and six weeks pregnant with me an all star panel.
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Speaker 1: But let me first go to Christie Missouri joining us
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Speaker 1: any award winning investigative reporter. Christie, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Now. This took place in kravre Missouri. Tell
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Speaker 1: me about that. It's a lovely, family oriented community. Neighbors
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Speaker 1: know everybody else, So for this woman to just vanish
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Speaker 1: in thin air without a trace was very unnerving to
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Speaker 1: her neighbors. It apartments. Are they single dwell their homes? Oh,
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Speaker 1: this is a yeah. It's a lovely little, lovely little suburbia.
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Speaker 1: It's utopia. What were their jobs, Christy Massar, Where did
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Speaker 1: they work? They were engineers, So these are learned people
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Speaker 1: making very good salaries, upper level income. Soyl these are
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Speaker 1: meticulous people. That's why when she went missing it was
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Speaker 1: so out of the ordinary because both of these people,
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Speaker 1: separately and as a couple, had every moment of their
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Speaker 1: day documented with a calendar. Oh my goodness. To doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall joining me. High profile SLA analysts joining us
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Speaker 1: out of LA. She is the star of a new
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Speaker 1: Netflix show, Bling Empire, and you can find her at
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com, Doctor Bethany, the reason I'm
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Speaker 1: asking about the area is the first thing you want
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Speaker 1: to do is look at the area if it has
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Speaker 1: a high crime rate. To have there been a string
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Speaker 1: of break ins? I don't know if you remember, Jackie,
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Speaker 1: look this up for me. I recently covered a pastor's
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Speaker 1: wife who was pregnant, who was the victim of a
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Speaker 1: home invasion, and her other baby was home at the time.
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Speaker 1: I think it was like a two year old son
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Speaker 1: was home. And of course all the suspicion went on
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Speaker 1: the pastor, the young pastor, at first, because he had
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Speaker 1: been at the gym. And have you never noticed how
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Speaker 1: many husbands are at the gym suddenly when their wife
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Speaker 1: goes missing or fishing, like Scott Peterson, They're very rarely
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Speaker 1: at work where they punched the clock and everybody can
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Speaker 1: see them. So it led to suspicion on the pastor.
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Speaker 1: And the next thing you know, it came out that
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Speaker 1: there had been several burglaries in the neighborhood. Did you
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Speaker 1: find it, jack Amanda black Got said, that's right, Amanda Blackburn,
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Speaker 1: Now I remember exactly. Amanda Blackburn, just beautiful like a
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Speaker 1: seer face, right, in front of me, and everyone was
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Speaker 1: questioning the pastor because of his early morning gym trip.
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Speaker 1: It turned out to be this group of burglars, and
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't even get very much to get, like a
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Speaker 1: TV or a DVD player. They broke into her home
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Speaker 1: and I think the door was unlocked. Bethany as I recall,
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Speaker 1: and murtyred her, so she wouldn't be a witness. Awful.
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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying what kind of an area
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Speaker 1: is at high crime low crime? But I also find
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Speaker 1: it interesting what Christy Missouri said that these two I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about Jennifer and husband Bow, they're about to have
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Speaker 1: their baby, young and love the whole thing. They're so meticulous.
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Speaker 1: It's very rare that you see in a low crime
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Speaker 1: area someone just go missing. Now, if she left the
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Speaker 1: area on her way to work or on her way
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Speaker 1: to the grocery store, that changes the whole scenario. But
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Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of people just vanish when
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Speaker 1: they're the kind of person that has day and date,
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Speaker 1: you know, every hour accounted. Four. Nancy. This is a
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Speaker 1: beautiful young woman, a high level professional. She's an engineer.
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Speaker 1: She works in a business or in a company with
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Speaker 1: many other people. And one of the first things I
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Speaker 1: would wonder is had somebody fallen in love with her?
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Speaker 1: Was somebody obsessed with her? Did she have a stalker,
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Speaker 1: somebody who is making advances to her or wanting to
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Speaker 1: spend time with her. I think that's the first thing
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Speaker 1: I would look at. Who are her friendships, what's going
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Speaker 1: on in her computer? Who did she spend time with?
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Speaker 1: The second thing is this pregnant? What do you think
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Speaker 1: she's going out to bars? N weeks? Six weeks, that's
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Speaker 1: still pregnant. She's not shown You do know I threw
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Speaker 1: up every single day of my pregnancy, starting at a
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Speaker 1: bit some guy every day. I have news for you, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: some book to some guy who's stalking her, who has
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Speaker 1: a crush on her. It is not going to care
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Speaker 1: that she's throwing up every day. Okay, thank you for that, mule.
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Speaker 1: But you know what you said. You said something really interesting.
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Speaker 1: Let me throw this to Matthew Mangino joining US high
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Speaker 1: profile criminal defense attorney out of Newcastle, Pennsylvania, former district
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Speaker 1: attorney and Lawrence County. And the reason I emphasize that
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Speaker 1: is you cannot be the district attorney or an assisted
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Speaker 1: district attorney without trying a lot of cases. He knows
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Speaker 1: his way around the courtroom. Former Parole board member, I
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Speaker 1: don't like that one bit. Parole author of the Executioner's Toll.
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Speaker 1: You can find them at matt Mangino dot com. Matthew
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Speaker 1: when she said, when doctor Bethany said, they're highly trained,
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Speaker 1: highly learned engineers, that is a very exact science. And
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Speaker 1: Bethany also said she works with a lot of people,
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Speaker 1: which is true for engineers. In my mind, I thought
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Speaker 1: she works with a lot of men. That's true. That's
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Speaker 1: a male dominated occupation, and when you work with a
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Speaker 1: lot of men, that heightens the likelihood that one of
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Speaker 1: them is going to get a crush on you. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's certainly a possibility, and that's something that I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the police would consider immediately upon learning of her disappearance. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: we know from news accounts that they're searching the home,
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Speaker 1: which is the first place that they're going to look
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Speaker 1: when someone comes up missing, as you mentioned earlier, the preacher.
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Speaker 1: You know, unfortunately, they're going to look to people who
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Speaker 1: have close contact with her. They're going to look to
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Speaker 1: the husband immediately, just to make sure that that there's
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Speaker 1: some basis for not looking further at him. They want
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Speaker 1: to eliminate the husband first thing, first of all, you know,
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Speaker 1: but they're but they're looking in the home, so we
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Speaker 1: know that there might be some information there that they're
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Speaker 1: interested in, and that's where they're going to find out
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Speaker 1: her every move. These two have been married for four years,
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Speaker 1: and she's last seen alive that morning, leaving for her
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Speaker 1: job as a chemical engineer, straight out to John Guard
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Speaker 1: joining US chief deputy with Pitt County Sheriff's Office in Greenville,
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Speaker 1: who specializes in cases just like this one. You know,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell, it strikes me how organized she was, with
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Speaker 1: every hour accounted for, Like when you look in your
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Speaker 1: iPhone at the calendar. She had it so meticulously arranged.
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Speaker 1: So it should have been easy for police to figure
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Speaker 1: out where she would have been at the time she
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Speaker 1: went missing, John Guard, because isn't all of that saved
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Speaker 1: in the cloud? Absolutely, Nancy, And that's one of the
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Speaker 1: first things you know, we're going to do in any
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Speaker 1: case that begins maybe as a missing person, So you're
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Speaker 1: gonna examine that digital footprint, and you know, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of legs that go off that footprint connect to
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Speaker 1: other people and other information, and you're just going to
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Speaker 1: run that information down and see where it takes. It
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Speaker 1: sounds like the police did what we normally do in
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Speaker 1: cases like that, and I did a really really good job,
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Speaker 1: learning a lot in hindsight, as I'm sure the investigators
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Speaker 1: work in the case. I saw, you know firsthand, but
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of planning, not only you know,
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Speaker 1: in her daily life and what Jennifer did, she certainly
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Speaker 1: lived by a calendar. So what I'm trying to say,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, and you know, for Pete's sake, people,
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Speaker 1: I'm a JD, not a DDS. I how to pull
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Speaker 1: a tooth, but I'll try it one more time. Bethany,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to declare you a hostile witness because you
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Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. Yes, but I can't get
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Speaker 1: the answer out of you, so I'm now going to
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Speaker 1: have to cross examine you. I'm sorry, doctor Bethany. Isn't
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Speaker 1: it true that at no time has it ever been
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Speaker 1: alleged Jennifer Rothwell was let's just say, a drug addict. Yes, no,
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Speaker 1: it has not been alleged, so no, And isn't it
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Speaker 1: true She's never been suspected of being a prostitute or
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Speaker 1: an escort. True. Isn't it true? She worked regular hours,
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Speaker 1: she was very dependable and was never late to work. Yes, no, absolutely, yes. True.
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Speaker 1: So the point is that this was not a person
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Speaker 1: that is prone to high risk behavior. She's not out
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Speaker 1: on the corner hooking, she's not going into bad areas
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Speaker 1: trying to score a rock a crack. She's not into
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Speaker 1: anting the fairy's activity. She has a very regular schedule,
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Speaker 1: and she's six weeks pregnant and she's talking about it.
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Speaker 1: She's not trying to figure out how am I going
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Speaker 1: to get rid of this baby? Can I'm dropping off
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Speaker 1: at the fire station. She's coming at home and reading
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Speaker 1: what to expect when you're expecting. That's who we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, and he lives in a nice neighborhood, you know,
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Speaker 1: in these types of niedborhood. I don't friend that. I
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Speaker 1: said that, and now you're saying it again, now that
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Speaker 1: I've declared your hostile witnesses. So long story short, the
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Speaker 1: fact that this woman just drops off the map, it's
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Speaker 1: very very uncommon. Not only that we think she even
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Speaker 1: took the same route back and forth to work every day.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at crime online dot com.
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell was last seen leaving her West Saint Louis
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Speaker 1: County home. Bo Rothwell says Jennifer left for work at
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Speaker 1: six twenty that morning. As Bo Rothwell begins getting ready
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Speaker 1: for his own day, Jennifer Rothwell calls four times, but
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Speaker 1: Bo misses the calls. Rothwell texts his wife during the day,
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Speaker 1: but there's no replies. Rothwell reports Jennifer as missing. Over
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Speaker 1: the next few days, Bou, along with other family, friends
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Speaker 1: and co workers, begin to search the community, putting up
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Speaker 1: missing person signs and begging for information about Jennifer. Time
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Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. Another thing I'm learning about Jennifer
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Speaker 1: is that she has never needed space. I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of friends that go on girls weekends, as they call.
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Speaker 1: These are grown women, they're not little girls. They go
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Speaker 1: on girls weekends, and it sounds like a lot of fun.
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Speaker 1: I want to be with the twins. I don't want
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Speaker 1: to leave the twins. But this woman never went out
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Speaker 1: with her friends. She didn't go away for weekends. She
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Speaker 1: didn't sulely announce I need space and disappear for a
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Speaker 1: day or two to get some air that's not her
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Speaker 1: and that is one of the things that have her
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Speaker 1: parents and her family so upset that this is out
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Speaker 1: of character. I mean, the car, as I recall, was
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Speaker 1: a Hundai Sonata, right Christy, Missourich, correct and a pretty
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Speaker 1: common car. So I'm just wondering if they had NAV
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Speaker 1: in that car, navigational tracking, which I love John Guard,
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Speaker 1: Chief Deputy Pitt County Sheriff's Office nav systems in cars.
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Speaker 1: They're a huge benefit to police. But well, guess somebody
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Speaker 1: that may have a used car or an older car
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Speaker 1: no good. And this one is a twenty eleven Hundai Sonata. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's a little older and would not come
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Speaker 1: with the GPS. May have time. So the only thing
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Speaker 1: I can think of right now, if they're really trying
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Speaker 1: to piece together where her car went, is the case
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Speaker 1: missing Connecticut Mama pied Jennifer Dulos, her husband. No doubt
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Speaker 1: in my mind, Fotus Dulos was having an affair with
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Speaker 1: the girlfriend with Shelterconis, and I have no doubt in
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Speaker 1: my mind that he murdered her. She's not missing, she's dead.
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Speaker 1: But what police did in an effort to find her.
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Speaker 1: They got every ring, door rebel, every business, every resident,
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Speaker 1: surveillance video, red light cam, stop cam, bridge cam told
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Speaker 1: him everything. They even got a camera. This is amazing.
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Speaker 1: When a public bus opened its doors, the camera caught
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Speaker 1: the husband going by in the vehicle. Then hip course
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Speaker 1: takes the murder car to the car wash to have
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Speaker 1: the car detailed. Even changing out the backseats didn't really
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Speaker 1: help because his wife's blood and hair was found on
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Speaker 1: the seats. Long story short, We can work wonders with
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Speaker 1: surveillance video, but not with the nav system in this car.
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Speaker 1: But speaking of the car, suddenly we get a break
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Speaker 1: in the case and the search for Jennifer Rothwell. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at crime Alone. Jennifer Rothwell's
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Speaker 1: car is found the same day she has reported missing,
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Speaker 1: all over a mile from her home. Around nine thirty
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Speaker 1: the twenty eleven Honday, Sonata is found on the side
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Speaker 1: of a busy intersection. It did not appear to have
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Speaker 1: been in a crash and was otherwise drivable, so the
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Speaker 1: police tagged the vehicle as abandoned. After the owner was identified,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer's phone was found inside. Okay, she didn't make it
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Speaker 1: very far? Did she just about a mile from her home?
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Speaker 1: About nine thirty am, her sonatas found on the side
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Speaker 1: of a busy intersection. It had not been in a crash,
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Speaker 1: It was not on empty, It did not have a
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Speaker 1: flat tire. What does that mean? Let me go out
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Speaker 1: to you, Matthew Mengino. Was she forced off the road?
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Speaker 1: There's not a mark on her car. Why did she
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Speaker 1: pull over? Did she suddenly get sick? She nauseous from
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Speaker 1: being pregnant? I mean, what is that telling you? The
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Speaker 1: cars found about a mile away? Well, that's really a concern,
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Speaker 1: and I think that it changes the focus of the investigation.
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Speaker 1: At first, you're thinking about a person who is missing.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's some reason she went someplace, and you're
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Speaker 1: trying to figure that out as quickly as you can.
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Speaker 1: But now you find your car alongside the road. That
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Speaker 1: changes the dynamics of this investigation. Now it appears that
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Speaker 1: something sinister may have happened here. And again this is
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Speaker 1: where I think you begin to grab videotape that you
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Speaker 1: can from neighboring businesses. You said it was a busy intersection.
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Speaker 1: You start looking at all those possibilities of gaining additional information.
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Speaker 1: But I think that finding this car a mile away
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Speaker 1: without any damage or it's not incapacitated in some way,
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Speaker 1: but it does point to something nefarious. Nancy, Nancy, do
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Speaker 1: you remember that can go to you? Go ahead, doctor Bethany.
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Speaker 1: Remember the case we covered years ago where there was
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Speaker 1: a call student coming home late at night from a
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Speaker 1: party at her college and the car was found on
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Speaker 1: the side of the road and they found connect her veilance. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that a group of boys had forced her off the
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Speaker 1: road just before she was going over a bridge, and
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Speaker 1: that was the only clue they had. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying that's the same in this case, but when
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Speaker 1: a single woman's car is found on the side of
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Speaker 1: the road, I sometimes wonder, I mean, have you ever
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Speaker 1: had somebody scary follow you in your car? I have
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Speaker 1: a number of times in mind, and it's very frightening.
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Speaker 1: You try to find the nearest police station, you try
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Speaker 1: to stumble for your cell phone. But I would wonder,
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Speaker 1: you know, if there's any surveillance, any footage that shows
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Speaker 1: that there was somebody who tried to force her off
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Speaker 1: the road. Well, this is also another interesting fact about
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Speaker 1: her carving found not flat, not empty, not banged up,
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Speaker 1: no crash. It was also at a busy intersection, so
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Speaker 1: you would think if someone was going to kidnap her,
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Speaker 1: steal her away, or forced her in her out of
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Speaker 1: the car, it would have been spotted. But we have
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Speaker 1: no witness. I know it was early in the morning,
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Speaker 1: but people are up and about on the interstate heading
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Speaker 1: to airports, heading to work like she was at six
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. What can we learn from this car?
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Robert Townsend k s DK Creevecorps
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Speaker 1: Police located a car not far from this house the
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Speaker 1: same day, near the intersection of Olive and Fife Row.
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Speaker 1: Liars of the missing woman are posted right now inside
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Speaker 1: several businesses in this very neighborhood. Police also tell us
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Speaker 1: Rothwell's family and friends usually talk to her every day,
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Speaker 1: but again, they have not heard from this woman since
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Speaker 1: Jennifer left home early esterday morning, and that's why they
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Speaker 1: filed a missing person's report. Police say Rothwell's husband, all
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Speaker 1: of her relatives and family members they spent that they
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Speaker 1: talked to them. They just want to know where this
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Speaker 1: woman is. Again, police tell us this young lady has
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Speaker 1: never disappeared before. Back there live gain you see a
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Speaker 1: very active scene in this neighborhood. Saintlis County police right
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Speaker 1: here sitting into vehicles. They are also asking anyone who
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Speaker 1: sees Jennifer Rothwell to call Saintlis County Police immediately. As
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Speaker 1: the search intensifies, of course focus turns to the husband.
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Speaker 1: But he bo Rothwell is the one that call nine
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Speaker 1: one one. And so often when husbands are suspected in
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Speaker 1: a wife's disappearance or even murder, they're not the ones
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Speaker 1: that call nine one one. I mean, look at barrymore Few.
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Speaker 1: He didn't call nine one one. He called his daughters
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Speaker 1: to call a neighbor. And I think the neighbor is
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Speaker 1: the one that call nine one one. It goes on
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Speaker 1: and on, as I would call it. Scott Peterson, her
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Speaker 1: parents called nine one one, not him. Another issue cops
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Speaker 1: are going to have is, let me understand this Christie
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Speaker 1: Missouri joining us. She's last seen it at six thirty eight,
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Speaker 1: and he, the husband, does call on nine one one.
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Speaker 1: But isn't it at nearly ten o'clock at night when
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Speaker 1: he calls nine one one? Correct, when she doesn't return
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Speaker 1: from work. Now, mind you flashback to what he said
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Speaker 1: earlier in the day she leaves for work, he misses
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Speaker 1: a few phone calls from her, and she never responds
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Speaker 1: to his phone call. So that huge gap of time,
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Speaker 1: all of these missed phone calls in the morning, he
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Speaker 1: waits until ten pm to finally say, something's wrong here.
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard from my wife in over twelve hours. Well,
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Speaker 1: another thing, I don't think that she normally gets time
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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night from were sure because if
21:38
Speaker 1: she's going in at six thirty, especially in a lot
21:40
Speaker 1: of her being pregnant, he waited until nearly ten o'clock
21:44
Speaker 1: at night. That steel is not damning, but it was
21:50
Speaker 1: enough for her family to be concerned because she spoke
21:54
Speaker 1: to them on a daily basis. So when dinner time
21:57
Speaker 1: rolled around that day and they hadn't heard from Jennifer,
22:00
Speaker 1: when they questioned Bull, he said, well, I tried calling
22:03
Speaker 1: her this morning. She hasn't answered her phone. That started
22:07
Speaker 1: putting up some concerns. When you hit a wall, I
22:12
Speaker 1: always start over again. Matthew Mangino, high profile lawyer out
22:17
Speaker 1: of Newcastle, former district attorney. Once you follow all your
22:21
Speaker 1: leads and you're going nowhere, you start all over again.
22:25
Speaker 1: With the scenario with the witnesses, with the ring cams,
22:31
Speaker 1: with the NAV system, with the phone calls, with the texts,
22:35
Speaker 1: and of course you'll look at the husband, but I
22:37
Speaker 1: would look not only at the morning she was last seen.
22:41
Speaker 1: I would look at the days leading up to that.
22:43
Speaker 1: With you, well, yeah, there's no question about it. I
22:46
Speaker 1: think you're exactly right. Once you've gone through would appear
22:52
Speaker 1: to be the obvious options here, you go back to
22:55
Speaker 1: the beginning. In the beginning in investigations like this is
23:00
Speaker 1: at the husband, and you want to now get more
23:03
Speaker 1: information about the husband. You want to find out what
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Speaker 1: he was doing in the days leading up to her
23:11
Speaker 1: disappearance exactly. And you're right, you want you want to
23:14
Speaker 1: you want to see his phone. You want to you
23:16
Speaker 1: want to see who he's been in contact with, who
23:19
Speaker 1: he's been talking to, who he's been messaging, and uh,
23:22
Speaker 1: you know, so this, this investigation, in this short period
23:26
Speaker 1: of time, has gone full circle. Let's go back to
23:29
Speaker 1: the beginning and let's be more thorough about what transpired
23:35
Speaker 1: prior to her disappearance. Then we find out that he
23:40
Speaker 1: is quite the Nate Nick. That's always a concern to
23:43
Speaker 1: me when your wife goes missing and suddenly you're out
23:47
Speaker 1: buying bleach. Take a listen to our cut eight our
23:50
Speaker 1: friends at Fox two. Bo Rothwell told officers he last
23:54
Speaker 1: saw his wife at six twenty am at their home
23:57
Speaker 1: when she reportedly left for work. Minutes later, he missed
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Speaker 1: four phone calls from her. Police found the victim's phone
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Speaker 1: in her car, abandoned on the side of the road
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Speaker 1: near Olive and Fifee. Meanwhile, investigators noted Bo's pick up
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Speaker 1: at their home about a mile away had a strong
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Speaker 1: odor of bleach that seeked from the truck bed. A
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Speaker 1: small window to the garage was opened despite the cold temperatures.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Tim Gallagher were now medical Examiner for the entire
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Speaker 1: state of Florida. You can find him at pathcaremed dot com,
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Speaker 1: Lecturer University Florida School of Medicine, and founder host of
24:33
Speaker 1: the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. Doctor Gallagher why bleach?
24:40
Speaker 1: I mean it's almost cliche where you see the killer
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Speaker 1: in line at Walmart und bleach. These cops get six
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Speaker 1: feet from the husband's truck and they smell bleach. What
24:54
Speaker 1: is in bleach that hurts your nose? Both bleach actually
24:58
Speaker 1: is chlorine bleach and arene is a gas. It's a
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Speaker 1: very reactive gas, and that it'll react with proteins, it'll
25:05
Speaker 1: react with bodily fluids, and it'll react with tissue you
25:08
Speaker 1: know that's present in your nose, and when it does
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Speaker 1: come in contact, it will ignite the nerve endings and
25:15
Speaker 1: it will radiate pain from your nose all up through
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Speaker 1: your face. So another thing I wanted to point out
25:22
Speaker 1: now that I got a chance again is to say
25:26
Speaker 1: places like Walmart, Target, you know their surveillance system. You know,
25:31
Speaker 1: we kind of frown upon these large, big box stores,
25:35
Speaker 1: but we've called a lot of criminals using the surveillance
25:38
Speaker 1: and photography system present. You know, after registers at Walmart
25:43
Speaker 1: and places like Target. Hey frowns on big box stores,
25:46
Speaker 1: little box stores. Ah, you're right, because I know. I'm
25:50
Speaker 1: telling you last minute. A couple of weeks ago, twins
25:54
Speaker 1: finally got to go on there a school trip after
25:57
Speaker 1: years of not getting to go because of COVID. Of course,
26:00
Speaker 1: we didn't have a digiicam. We went everywhere. Guests who
26:04
Speaker 1: saved us Walmart two digital cameras and they were cheap
26:09
Speaker 1: and they were awesome. So I don't want to hear
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Speaker 1: any shade on Target or Walmart not working here, Doctor
26:15
Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher, I don't know what rarefied circles you run in,
26:19
Speaker 1: but that's not true for the rest of us. So chlorine,
26:22
Speaker 1: it's that, did you say chlorine? It's what's in bleach
26:26
Speaker 1: that hurts your nose, right. Chlorine is a guest that
26:29
Speaker 1: it dissolved in a fluid which has been called bleach.
26:33
Speaker 1: But it evaporates very quickly out of the fluid and
26:36
Speaker 1: it goes into your nose, reacts with a tissue and
26:39
Speaker 1: ignites the nerve endings. That's what causes the pain. You know,
26:42
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that bleach alone can get
26:45
Speaker 1: rid of DNA. That's absolutely not true. You need something
26:49
Speaker 1: like myriadic acid like black swan if you really want
26:52
Speaker 1: to do the job right. But I mean, you can
26:56
Speaker 1: smell bleach a mile away. Hey, that just made me
26:59
Speaker 1: think of something, doctor Tim Gallagher. Remember in the more
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Speaker 1: few case where everybody went into his hotel room and
27:05
Speaker 1: said it smelled like chlorine? Would that have been possibly
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Speaker 1: bleach and not chlorine from a swimming pool? Most likely
27:13
Speaker 1: if you just smell it in one room and not
27:16
Speaker 1: all of the rooms, most likely it is bleach. You know,
27:19
Speaker 1: that is centralized in that one location. You do know,
27:21
Speaker 1: I could listen to talk all day long. But getting
27:24
Speaker 1: back on track, So we've got the husband cleaning out
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Speaker 1: his truck bed with bleach and he's even opened the
27:32
Speaker 1: garage window, left it cracked open. What to dissipate the odor?
27:38
Speaker 1: Odor of what? But then we find out about a list.
27:43
Speaker 1: You know, doctor Bethany Marshall, there's such thing as being
27:47
Speaker 1: too organized. Take a listen to our cut nine our
27:52
Speaker 1: friends at Fox too. Bo Rothwell's list of pros and
27:55
Speaker 1: cons about his mistress. Rothwell wrote it on a work
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Speaker 1: notebook dated five months before the murder. Plus is indicating
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Speaker 1: the pros like better sex, life, more respect, fresh start
28:08
Speaker 1: than he wrote. Is the cost too high? Under cons
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Speaker 1: indicated by a minor sign half my assets, money, trust
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Speaker 1: is shaken, tainted, my family, disappointment and take on her
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Speaker 1: kid with his probs. The list did not mention killing anyone. Wow,
28:27
Speaker 1: Chrissy Missourich. A list made out of pros and cons
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Speaker 1: whether he should keep the wife or get rid of her.
28:35
Speaker 1: Do you remember those old Gerito commercials that would run
28:37
Speaker 1: during Lawrence Well where the husband at the end would say,
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Speaker 1: I think I'll keep her even as a little girl.
28:44
Speaker 1: That just rubbed me the wrong way. But I didn't
28:46
Speaker 1: know why he made a list of pros and cons
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Speaker 1: about keeping his wife or what trade to get marriage,
28:53
Speaker 1: marriage or mistress that we talked about the mistress. What
28:59
Speaker 1: did you just say, Go ahead, I'm listening marriage or
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Speaker 1: mistress Because that list really puts investigators on the trajectory
29:10
Speaker 1: looking further into his phone, who he was talking to,
29:14
Speaker 1: how long he was talking to them, and what exactly
29:17
Speaker 1: he was saying, and then they uncover this whole sordid
29:22
Speaker 1: affair he was having with another woman, and some very
29:26
Speaker 1: eye opening text messages to this woman just before Jennifer
29:31
Speaker 1: goes missing. Okay, wait, tell me about the text messages. Well,
29:34
Speaker 1: as we was saying, he was debating marriage or mistress.
29:38
Speaker 1: He claims he was feeling guilty about having this affair
29:42
Speaker 1: and wanted to come clean to his wife. So he
29:45
Speaker 1: and his mistress start texting back and forth, and he said, well,
29:48
Speaker 1: we have three options. Option one is to end things
29:52
Speaker 1: all together and stop chatting. Option two, I'll admit the
29:56
Speaker 1: affair to Jennifer and get a divorce. Option three, because
30:01
Speaker 1: now Jennifer is pregnant and he knows this see of
30:04
Speaker 1: a miscarriage or quote something happens in which case Bo
30:10
Speaker 1: would leave Jennifer for her, and it's that comment or
30:14
Speaker 1: something happens that police focus on. So now we learn
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Speaker 1: not only did he make a pro and con list
30:23
Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall very quickly. I would hate to
30:27
Speaker 1: think that you could reduce a marriage and a pregnancy
30:31
Speaker 1: down to a pros and cons list marriage or mistress.
30:34
Speaker 1: You know what's missing out of this list is his
30:37
Speaker 1: emotions towards either one of these true two women. There's
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Speaker 1: nothing about his wife being beautiful, what about the unborn child?
30:44
Speaker 1: The unborn child is not really mentioned his family, anything
30:48
Speaker 1: emotional about the people in his life. He does mention
30:52
Speaker 1: loss of respect, but that's very self referential and it
30:57
Speaker 1: just has all to do with him. There's nothing about
31:00
Speaker 1: we're being attached to anybody else. Put him to kill
31:13
Speaker 1: time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys. As it continues on,
31:22
Speaker 1: there is another big break in the case. Take a
31:25
Speaker 1: listen to our friends at k s DK. Saint Louis
31:28
Speaker 1: County Police tells me that today they went back to
31:31
Speaker 1: the area that they were last night, hoping at the
31:33
Speaker 1: daylight can help them find any new sort of evidence.
31:35
Speaker 1: Saint Louis County Police Chief John Bellmar says the rank
31:39
Speaker 1: made it even harder to search. This major operation was
31:42
Speaker 1: off the roadway of US sixty one, just north of
31:44
Speaker 1: KK but after six hours of looking, they found the
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Speaker 1: body of a white adult female at eleven fifteen last
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Speaker 1: night along U s sixty one near Quiver River State Park.
31:53
Speaker 1: They believe it is Jennifer Rothwell's body. The body has
31:57
Speaker 1: been found. Doctor Tim Gallagher, a medical examer for the
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Speaker 1: State of Florida out in the elements. Many days have passed.
32:05
Speaker 1: How will that affect making an idea of her and
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Speaker 1: determining cod cause of death? Well, it shouldn't really impact
32:14
Speaker 1: the cause of death too much. Most likely, you know,
32:18
Speaker 1: if she was killed via a sharp blow or a
32:23
Speaker 1: bullet wound or a knife, that will be preserved. You
32:27
Speaker 1: know whether or not the body is decomposed or not.
32:30
Speaker 1: But I identifying her through dental records or through other
32:35
Speaker 1: medical records should be fairly straightforward if she does have
32:39
Speaker 1: existing medical records, and I believe it was mentioned that
32:43
Speaker 1: she was six weeks pregnant, so a recovery of the
32:47
Speaker 1: fetis and then dating the fetus to six weeks could
32:51
Speaker 1: also assist in positively identifying her. Facebook messages between the
32:56
Speaker 1: husband and his girlfriend show he was very upset and
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Speaker 1: he discovered she was pregnant. Take a Listen to our
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Speaker 1: Prince at k M. He and Jennifer meeting at the
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Speaker 1: University of Missouri, later getting married, struggling to have children,
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Speaker 1: and then his affair. When she told him she was pregnant,
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Speaker 1: he said it was an awkward moment. Rothwell said, I
33:15
Speaker 1: had mixed feelings. I wanted to be a dad a
33:17
Speaker 1: long time, but I was having an affair. He said
33:20
Speaker 1: he felt guilty about the affair, and on November eleventh,
33:22
Speaker 1: Rothwell said, my plan was to tell her about the affair,
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Speaker 1: throw myself on her mercy, and hope for the best.
33:28
Speaker 1: Rothwell said he and Jennifer were sitting in the kitchen
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Speaker 1: of their home when he confessed his affair and gave
33:32
Speaker 1: this account of their exchange. I'm really sorry, but I'm
33:35
Speaker 1: having an affair. How dare you explative? He claims. She
33:39
Speaker 1: shoved him and then said, keep your mystery explative. I've
33:42
Speaker 1: got someone too. Is this even mine? It doesn't mind.
33:46
Speaker 1: The baby's probably not yours. Who is it, it doesn't matter.
33:50
Speaker 1: At least he can get me pregnant. Okay, that sounds
33:53
Speaker 1: like a lot of bs to me. John Gard, Chief
33:56
Speaker 1: Deputy pitt County Sheriff's Office. It sounds to me like
34:00
Speaker 1: he's trying to place blame on Jennifer and somehow drag
34:04
Speaker 1: her through the mud. He's clearly having an affair. He's
34:08
Speaker 1: been thinking of pros and cause to stay in the
34:10
Speaker 1: marriage or get rid of his wife. And now even
34:15
Speaker 1: after her body has been found, she's been stripped naked,
34:20
Speaker 1: her head is covered with a plastic bag, she's been
34:24
Speaker 1: tied up. I guess to make this look like a
34:27
Speaker 1: stranger did it. He's now trying to stay Oh it
34:32
Speaker 1: wasn't my baby. Well we can figure that out from
34:35
Speaker 1: the postmortem. You're exactly right. And I think a theme
34:39
Speaker 1: that you brought up, man said, and what we're hearing
34:42
Speaker 1: is just the selfishness. I mean, did this in fight happen?
34:46
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm right there with you, O lad. I
34:48
Speaker 1: mean again, this line of thinking or him saying occurred,
34:55
Speaker 1: only benefits one person, which is him. You know, kind
34:58
Speaker 1: of a common theme. He does put a lot all
35:00
Speaker 1: the time, and a lot of activities postcrime. You got
35:04
Speaker 1: very can jump in about this. You know, in domestic
35:07
Speaker 1: homicide and domestic abuse situations, when you interview the man, notoriously,
35:11
Speaker 1: they have little to no idea of what's really going
35:14
Speaker 1: through the woman's mind, no idea. They mischaracterize their partners
35:20
Speaker 1: all the time, and they mischaracterize them in a negative direction.
35:24
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he's trying to cover up the crime,
35:27
Speaker 1: but he's also really a disturbed, toxic, abusive individual who
35:33
Speaker 1: probably had no idea what his wife was thinking all
35:36
Speaker 1: throughout the marriage, Nancy, And if I can jump in,
35:39
Speaker 1: police did figure out what Jennifer Rothwell was thinking just
35:44
Speaker 1: days before she went missing. Remember, her phone was found
35:49
Speaker 1: in the abandoned car, and one of her most recent
35:53
Speaker 1: Google searches was what to do if your husband is
35:58
Speaker 1: upset you are pregnant. That should have led them to
36:02
Speaker 1: hone in on him immediately. Isn't it showing doctor Bethany
36:06
Speaker 1: that the number one cause of death amongst pregnant women
36:10
Speaker 1: is homicide. It's not high blood pressure, it's not a
36:14
Speaker 1: heart attack, it's not clapclampsia. It's homicide. That's right, because
36:21
Speaker 1: when the father of the unborn baby finds out the
36:24
Speaker 1: woman is pregnant, often there's a lot of conflicting emotions,
36:29
Speaker 1: such as how much is it going to cost to
36:31
Speaker 1: have this baby? Am I going to have to share
36:34
Speaker 1: the love of my wife with this unborn baby? What
36:38
Speaker 1: is this going to do to my life? Oh, I'm
36:40
Speaker 1: having an affair, and is this baby going to interfere
36:44
Speaker 1: with the time and resources necessary for carrying out the affair?
36:50
Speaker 1: So yes, it is the leading cause of death in
36:53
Speaker 1: pregnant women. Well, once this guy starts talking here, really,
36:59
Speaker 1: let's sit rip. Take a listen to our cut twelve
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Speaker 1: our friends at KMV. Rothwell says he was standing behind
37:05
Speaker 1: Jennifer and hit her on the right temple with a mallet,
37:07
Speaker 1: then followed her as she stumbled toward the garage. In
37:10
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, I hit her again. I
37:12
Speaker 1: think I cracked her skull and she fell down the stairs.
37:15
Speaker 1: He said. She was unresponsive. I couldn't tell if she
37:18
Speaker 1: was deceased. But instead of calling on when One for
37:20
Speaker 1: an ambulance, Rothwell said he went into panic mode and
37:23
Speaker 1: started cleaning up Every fiber in my body was saying,
37:26
Speaker 1: do something or I'd die. After killing Jennifer, I thought
37:30
Speaker 1: I had to clean this up and hide what I'd done,
37:32
Speaker 1: he said. After cleaning up the blood, he loaded her
37:34
Speaker 1: body in the back of his pickup and drove without
37:36
Speaker 1: knowing where he was going. Eventually pulled off the side
37:39
Speaker 1: of the road on Highway sixty one near Troy and
37:41
Speaker 1: put her body twenty to twenty five feet off the
37:43
Speaker 1: road and covered it with twigs and leaves. And that's
37:46
Speaker 1: not all, hey just can't stop talking. Take a listen
37:49
Speaker 1: our cut thirteen, He admitted parking your car along all
37:52
Speaker 1: the boulevardists part of a scheme to claim she had
37:54
Speaker 1: gone missing, and said he knew it was wrong to
37:57
Speaker 1: deceive her friends, but felt like he had to keep
37:59
Speaker 1: up the facid so get this. On cross examination, bro
38:03
Speaker 1: Rothwell admitted that he was still in almost daily contact
38:05
Speaker 1: of the woman who was having an affair with. In fact,
38:07
Speaker 1: multiple times a day I spoke with an alternate jurb
38:10
Speaker 1: who the judge said was no longer needed and allowed
38:13
Speaker 1: to go home. She said if she was in the
38:14
Speaker 1: jury room, she would vote for guilty on first degree murder.
38:17
Speaker 1: In fact, she said, quote he's guilty as hell, and
38:21
Speaker 1: listen to what we now learn he did to his
38:26
Speaker 1: pregnant wife's body, then making up this lie about the
38:31
Speaker 1: baby belonging to another man. Take a listen to our
38:34
Speaker 1: cut fourteen KMV. The Facebook messages between bo Rothwell and
38:38
Speaker 1: his girlfriend showed that he was very upset when he
38:41
Speaker 1: found out that his wife was pregnant. This afternoon, detectives
38:44
Speaker 1: presented evidence that there had been a bloody, violent confrontation
38:48
Speaker 1: in the basement of the couple's home. Prosecutors have said
38:50
Speaker 1: that twenty eight girl Jennifer Rothwell's skull was crushed. Her
38:53
Speaker 1: body found dumped along Highway sixty one near Troy. Her
38:56
Speaker 1: clothes had been removed, She was bound with duct tape
38:59
Speaker 1: and had a plastic over her head. In testimony this afternoon,
39:02
Speaker 1: the lead detective testified a by conducting a search at
39:04
Speaker 1: the couple's home. He said there was no sign of
39:07
Speaker 1: forced entry into the home and that in the basement,
39:09
Speaker 1: detectives found reddish circle staining of the carpet and intentions
39:14
Speaker 1: in the wall. During the search at the home, detectives
39:16
Speaker 1: removed basement carpet and carpet padding and showed the stained
39:20
Speaker 1: items to the jury today. It just breaks my heart
39:22
Speaker 1: that this woman, this poor woman, Jennifer Rothwell, expecting her
39:26
Speaker 1: first child was online looking at a website forum called
39:32
Speaker 1: husband doesn't care first pregnancy forums. What to expect. It's
39:37
Speaker 1: just she was all alone in the world, her husband
39:42
Speaker 1: texting and sleeping with another woman. Even after she goes missing.
39:47
Speaker 1: In other words, he killed her. He's still carrying on
39:51
Speaker 1: the relationship with the mistress. And I noticed when he
39:55
Speaker 1: speaks to detectives he refers to the body. I mean,
40:01
Speaker 1: doctor Tim Gallagher, that was a lot of staging he
40:06
Speaker 1: did post mortem, stripping her nude after he beat her
40:10
Speaker 1: dead in the head, zip tying her wrists, putting a
40:15
Speaker 1: plastic bag over her head, hiding her body. That's a
40:20
Speaker 1: lot of staging, doctor Gallagher. Well, it is, and it's
40:24
Speaker 1: kind of easy to see why he did wrap the head,
40:27
Speaker 1: as we had in other cases before. When there is
40:31
Speaker 1: a head injury, a severe open skull fracture, it bleeds
40:34
Speaker 1: very heavily. We know that the heart keeps pumping the
40:37
Speaker 1: blood through the wound, and it creates a lot of bleeding,
40:41
Speaker 1: more so than you would ever expect. Maybe he was
40:44
Speaker 1: trying to hide that evidences and prevent her from continue
40:47
Speaker 1: to bleed as he transports her. Well, the alternate jurar
40:51
Speaker 1: was right on. Take a listen to our cut sixteen
40:54
Speaker 1: our fens at KMOV. The jury took only three hours
40:58
Speaker 1: in twenty minutes to reach their verdict tonight, and when
41:01
Speaker 1: they read it out loud, the courtroom erupted with emotion.
41:05
Speaker 1: Jennifer Rothwell's friends and families say they feel a sense
41:08
Speaker 1: of relief and justice. It's a conviction. The state was
41:12
Speaker 1: confident Bo Rothwell would receive. One of the things that
41:15
Speaker 1: came out in testimony was the defendant said with the
41:21
Speaker 1: second hit that he thought he was trying to stop
41:26
Speaker 1: her from getting away, and right there you have deliberation.
41:31
Speaker 1: During Bo's testimony early Thursday, he said it has haunted
41:34
Speaker 1: me every day since Bo Rothwell was charged with first
41:37
Speaker 1: degree murder, tampering with evidence for trying to clean up
41:40
Speaker 1: the crime scene, and abandoning Jennifer's body near Troy, Missouri.
41:44
Speaker 1: That around six thirty Thursday, Rothwell was found guilty on
41:48
Speaker 1: all counts, hanging his head in dismay, but throughout the
41:51
Speaker 1: rest of the courtroom, a sense of relief and justice
41:54
Speaker 1: flooded Jennifer's friends and family. They will live forever without her.
41:59
Speaker 1: No prison term will be enough of a punishment for
42:04
Speaker 1: this husband, so cold, so callous the message today. Pomicide
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Speaker 1: is the number one cause of death amongst pregnant women.
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Speaker 1: The National Domestic Violence Hotline one eight hundred seven nine
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Speaker 1: nine Safe Safe or one eight hundred seven nine nine
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Speaker 1: seven two three three goodbye friend,