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- 0:06Speaker 1: A funny story about buying things you don't need. We
- 0:09Speaker 1: were away at Bakabang one year and my husband went
- 0:11Speaker 1: for a massage to the spa and he came back
- 0:14Speaker 1: having bought about, I don't know how many thousand rands
- 0:18Speaker 1: worth of face products. And I looked at it and
- 0:21Speaker 1: I looked at him and I said, you turn around
- 0:24Speaker 1: and you go back and you return it all right now.
- 0:26Speaker 1: You do not need any of that. He then went
- 0:29Speaker 1: back and he said before he handed it over, the
- 0:32Speaker 1: lady behind the counter said to him, your wife is
- 0:35Speaker 1: sending you back and telling you you don't need any
- 0:37Speaker 1: of this. Am I correct? And he said, yes. And
- 0:40Speaker 1: she said, it happens all the time. We really try
- 0:43Speaker 1: to push this stuff on the husbands because the wives
- 0:46Speaker 1: have wisened up.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's one way of sending things back is
- 0:54Speaker 2: make your husband go and do it. After all, it
- 0:56Speaker 2: was him. who bought it. Still to come on 702 Drive,
- 1:00Speaker 2: we begin two weeks, maybe a little bit longer, of
- 1:04Speaker 2: chatting to various political parties about what they're offering to
- 1:09Speaker 2: the electorate, particularly in regard to fixing problems at metros.
- 1:13Speaker 2: First up, Action SA, that party's national chairperson, Michael Beaumont,
- 1:18Speaker 2: is my guest at ten past four. It's seven minutes
- 1:21Speaker 2: to four. You're with John Pullman on 702.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Let's walk the talk.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Right, at this time, 702 is in conversation with BCAL K2,
- 1:33Speaker 2: Bone Health Simplified. World Osteoporosis Day takes place on the
- 1:38Speaker 2: 20th of October. It aims at raising awareness about bone health,
- 1:42Speaker 2: osteoporosis prevention, and the importance of early detection. Osteoporosis often
- 1:48Speaker 2: develops without symptoms until a fracture occurs, making awareness and
- 1:52Speaker 2: proactive care essential. to discuss the risk factors, lifestyle habits,
- 1:58Speaker 2: and treatment options that can help people protect their bones
- 2:01Speaker 2: throughout their lives. We're joined by Teresa Hoog, who is
- 2:05Speaker 2: CEO of the National Osteoporosis Foundation of South Africa. This
- 2:09Speaker 2: interview is brought to you by BCAL K2 in association
- 2:14Speaker 2: with the NOFSA. Ms. Hoog, welcome and thanks very much
- 2:18Speaker 2: for giving us your time. Clearly, we need to check
- 2:23Speaker 2: to see if we're at risk of this particular condition
- 2:26Speaker 2: and problem. At what stage should you start checking and
- 2:30Speaker 2: crucially how often? Good afternoon to you.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Hello and thanks for having me. Well, that is a
- 2:35Speaker 3: mouthful of questions you've just put into one question there.
- 2:39Speaker 3: So basically you start looking after your bones from birth
- 2:44Speaker 3: until the day you die because it's living tissue. So
- 2:47Speaker 3: the best time to start looking for risk factors is
- 2:50Speaker 3: In your 30s, in your 40s, in your 50s, obviously
- 2:54Speaker 3: women are more prone to develop osteoporosis because they lose
- 2:58Speaker 3: the bone protective hormone effect of estrogen. Men get it too.
- 3:03Speaker 3: If you have any risk factors, I don't know whether
- 3:06Speaker 3: you want to discuss that now, risk factors like long-term
- 3:11Speaker 3: glucocorticoid use, low calcium intake, no exercise. Too much drinking,
- 3:18Speaker 3: too much smoking is bad for you.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 3:21Speaker 3: If you have any of the cancers or many cancer diseases,
- 3:25Speaker 3: those are risk factors that you can talk to your
- 3:27Speaker 3: doctor about who can send you for a bone density measurement.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Let's talk about exercise because that's something many people are
- 3:35Speaker 2: doing already. Some exercises better than others?
- 3:38Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, and that's a question we get quite often.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Swimming and cycling, how good is that for you? It's
- 3:46Speaker 3: good for your heart, not that good for your bones
- 3:50Speaker 3: because we need bone-loading exercise where you bear your own weight.
- 3:55Speaker 3: So weight-bearing exercise like jogging. dancing, stair climbing, things where
- 4:02Speaker 3: you bear your own weight. So those are the good
- 4:05Speaker 3: exercises for bone building because exercise is also the only
- 4:11Speaker 3: physiological way where you can stimulate your bone forming cells.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Education is a crucial part of this conversation. You get
- 4:19Speaker 2: osteoporosis and you get I believe osteopenia, if I've said
- 4:23Speaker 2: it correctly.
- 4:24Speaker 1: Yes.
- 4:24Speaker 2: What is that?
- 4:26Speaker 3: So osteoporosis literally means porous bones. So that is when
- 4:30Speaker 3: you are more prone to fractures. Osteopenia is the stage
- 4:35Speaker 3: before osteoporosis. So that means your bones are already losing
- 4:40Speaker 3: bone density. And many people think that that's a stage
- 4:45Speaker 3: where you become panicky. it's a stage where you should
- 4:49Speaker 3: act because that is the stage or, as I said,
- 4:52Speaker 3: actually your whole life through. But when you have osteopenia,
- 4:55Speaker 3: your bones are already becoming thinner and you need to
- 4:58Speaker 3: do all the good things, enough calcium, vitamin D, all
- 5:02Speaker 3: those things, and exercise.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Let's talk about the calcium, vitamin D3, and there are
- 5:08Speaker 2: a couple of others that are on the list I've got.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Does that become the habit of a lifetime? And if so,
- 5:16Speaker 2: at what point do you need to get going?
- 5:20Speaker 3: From birth. But I always say the most important times
- 5:24Speaker 3: during the teenage years where you go through a growth spurt, 80%
- 5:29Speaker 3: of your skeleton is laid down during your teenage years.
- 5:34Speaker 3: But as we age, there's a natural decline in bone
- 5:37Speaker 3: density after the age of 30. So, you need to
- 5:41Speaker 3: look after your bones every day. We also know that
- 5:44Speaker 3: most people, and we suggest a daily calcium intake of
- 5:49Speaker 3: 1,200 milligrams per day, we only get to half of that.
- 5:54Speaker 3: If you think that about 99% of your body's calcium
- 5:58Speaker 3: sits in the skeleton, that is something that needs to
- 6:01Speaker 3: be supplemented the whole time, or you need to just
- 6:04Speaker 3: feed your body calcium. So calcium, very important, as is
- 6:09Speaker 3: vitamin D, because you can't absorb calcium without vitamin D.
- 6:14Speaker 3: And then you need vitamin K, which acts as a
- 6:18Speaker 3: parking attendant. It directs your calcium to your bones where
- 6:23Speaker 3: it is needed. Also need vitamin C because collagen is very,
- 6:26Speaker 3: very important in your bones. And protein. Protein, very good
- 6:31Speaker 3: for muscle mass because we fall as we grow older
- 6:36Speaker 3: and we need proteins to feed our bones and our muscles.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Got a listener who has a question. Let's hear.
- 6:43Speaker 4: Hi, John, and your guest. Nicole here from Pretoria. I
- 6:47Speaker 4: just want to find out from you when she said
- 6:49Speaker 4: that you have to have bone-bearing exercise. If you notice
- 6:54Speaker 4: that you are starting to develop osteoporosis in your 30s
- 6:57Speaker 4: or 40s, can one still reverse the process or improve
- 7:03Speaker 4: your condition by doing that?
- 7:07Speaker 3: Okay, so you reach peak bone density at the age
- 7:10Speaker 3: of roughly about 25 to 30. If you already are
- 7:14Speaker 3: developing osteoporosis, you can never rebuild the bone that you've lost.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:19Speaker 3: But you can prevent fractures or further bone decline by
- 7:25Speaker 3: doing your exercise and diet. You can never reverse the
- 7:30Speaker 3: bone density or your bone loss, but you can prevent
- 7:33Speaker 3: further bone dramatic bone loss by doing certain things.
- 7:39Speaker 2: And just finally, if you're going for scans, how often?
- 7:42Speaker 2: Every couple of years? Every year?
- 7:44Speaker 3: Okay, so we don't recommend routine bone density scanning, but
- 7:49Speaker 3: if you have risk factors like aging, like bone toxic
- 7:53Speaker 3: drugs like cortisones and things like that, if you go
- 7:55Speaker 3: through the menopause, very important because that's when women lose
- 8:00Speaker 3: their bone protective hormone, estrogen, so have a baseline scan. So,
- 8:06Speaker 3: And most medical guidelines say that between 65 or after
- 8:11Speaker 3: the age of 65, routine bone density scans for women,
- 8:15Speaker 3: after the age of 70 for men, because remember, men
- 8:18Speaker 3: also get osteoporosis.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Yes.
- 8:20Speaker 3: But if you have any risk factors, you can actually
- 8:23Speaker 3: ask your doctor whether he thinks you should go for
- 8:26Speaker 3: a bone density scan.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Teresa Hoog is CEO of the
- 8:30Speaker 2: National Osteoporosis Foundation of South Africa. We mark World Osteoporosis
- 8:36Speaker 2: Day in a couple of days' time on the 20th
- 8:39Speaker 2: of October. It's tomorrow, in fact. Now, healthy bones are
- 8:42Speaker 2: essential to your well-being, and osteoporosis can impact your quality
- 8:47Speaker 2: of life. But it's never too late to help protect
- 8:50Speaker 2: your bones. If you have risk factors for osteoporosis, including
- 8:54Speaker 2: but not limited to family history, menopause, or a previous fracture,
- 8:58Speaker 2: speak to your healthcare provider about osteoporosis screening. For bone
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- 9:19Speaker 2: It's four o'clock.