Latest / The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of / Vet Q&A From January 28th, 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, here he is the head chief hancho of trilogy.
- 0:05Speaker 1: What is it called trilogy.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It's it's a combination of the client, the patient, and
- 0:11Speaker 2: the medical team side.
- 0:12Speaker 3: That's kind of the three points of that.
- 0:15Speaker 4: Doctor Josh Davis is here.
- 0:16Speaker 1: He is a veterinarian extraordinaire and he is here to
- 0:20Speaker 1: answer questions about your pets, particularly your puppies and your kiddies.
- 0:25Speaker 1: That's what he's most versed in. He's not a large
- 0:28Speaker 1: animal veterinarian.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Nope.
- 0:31Speaker 5: I took I took Oakley to see doctor Davis. She
- 0:34Speaker 5: had this weird little bump on her elbow, and I
- 0:38Speaker 5: was surprised at your diagnosis and your and your treatment.
- 0:42Speaker 3: You want to telluse it simple, tell people what that was. Yeah.
- 0:46Speaker 2: So what we're thinking for Oakley is that we have
- 0:48Speaker 2: this pretty big, kind of firm bump on the elbow.
- 0:51Speaker 2: And one of the more common things for that and
- 0:53Speaker 2: in the bigger dogs, is we'll call a highgroma. So
- 0:56Speaker 2: it's just often caused by being on firm surfaces over time,
- 1:01Speaker 2: and they just got some inflammation and swelling around the elbow.
- 1:04Speaker 3: And so the solution is simple is.
- 1:06Speaker 2: As we try to take away those hard surfaces, stay
- 1:09Speaker 2: on soft surfaces, and some anti inflammatories to bring that
- 1:11Speaker 2: swelling down.
- 1:12Speaker 3: And so far we're making some progress.
- 1:14Speaker 6: She literally was told to remain seated on a soft bed.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Eight seven seven six oh two nine six nine six
- 1:23Speaker 1: is the number to call for questions for doctor Davis.
- 1:28Speaker 7: Well, no, that sounds like the stay on the tile
- 1:31Speaker 7: rule is not is not the best thing.
- 1:35Speaker 5: She she's she has like a nice temper pedic bed,
- 1:40Speaker 5: but she still likes you know, dogs like it where
- 1:43Speaker 5: it's cold.
- 1:44Speaker 3: They like the cold.
- 1:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I've all you know.
- 1:48Speaker 6: I have to make her go get on your bed.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I got you a nice bed.
- 1:52Speaker 6: You need to stay on that.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Give her a maker, a bed made out of meat.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Meat yeah cool soft, yeah.
- 2:01Speaker 4: Very soft, and she can chew on it.
- 2:03Speaker 7: Kids, you got to keep your meat cold. Amy is here, Hi, Amy?
- 2:08Speaker 4: Where are you calling?
- 2:09Speaker 8: From Utah County?
- 2:12Speaker 4: And you have a cat? What's the cat's name?
- 2:17Speaker 8: Mittens?
- 2:18Speaker 6: Mittens standard cat names, straight ahead.
- 2:22Speaker 4: So what's the what's the problem here?
- 2:26Speaker 8: So about four months ago, if not maybe even longer,
- 2:31Speaker 8: we took him into the vet because one day he
- 2:36Speaker 8: just woke up and stopped using his back legs. He
- 2:39Speaker 8: was like using his front legs, but his back legs
- 2:43Speaker 8: were just scooting behind him. So we ran him into
- 2:48Speaker 8: the vet. The vet did X rays and said there's nothing,
- 2:54Speaker 8: no fractures, no brakes, no anything, and then send us home.
- 2:59Speaker 4: He's faking and then trying to get your sympathy.
- 3:03Speaker 8: He's getting it. Yeah, So here we are in January
- 3:10Speaker 8: and he's still dragging them will not Yeah, well he's
- 3:14Speaker 8: not dragging them as bad, but like he doesn't sit
- 3:18Speaker 8: down like a normal cat. When he sits down, he
- 3:20Speaker 8: puts his right leg way in front of his front legs,
- 3:26Speaker 8: like he can't bend it to sit down more correctly.
- 3:30Speaker 1: No, if he's not faking it, he's got psychological problems,
- 3:33Speaker 1: that's what.
- 3:34Speaker 4: What do you think, doctor Davis?
- 3:35Speaker 3: Can you well?
- 3:37Speaker 2: And there's a couple of reasons cats will lose feeling
- 3:40Speaker 2: their legs really acutely like that, And it doesn't sound
- 3:43Speaker 2: like any of those are the problem. But diabetes can
- 3:46Speaker 2: cause weakness in the hind legs. Also, cats with heart
- 3:49Speaker 2: disease can get a blood clot basically to the legs
- 3:53Speaker 2: and then there. But those things don't sound like what's
- 3:56Speaker 2: happening because they would not be getting better if those
- 3:58Speaker 2: are the things. So the other thing I'm thinking is
- 4:00Speaker 2: probably some sort of either.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Joint or orthopedic injury.
- 4:04Speaker 2: That maybe when you got in right away wasn't manifest
- 4:08Speaker 2: yet on the x rays. But usually with joint injuries,
- 4:12Speaker 2: if there's something severe, then they'll start to get scar
- 4:14Speaker 2: tissue and what we call fibrosis, and so the joints
- 4:17Speaker 2: may not function.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Is good after they've had time to.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Make that scar tissue, So that'd be my best guess
- 4:22Speaker 2: without getting my hands on those legs. But you know,
- 4:26Speaker 2: the other two things are way more severe, so it
- 4:28Speaker 2: doesn't sound like we're dealing with that. But yeah, I
- 4:30Speaker 2: would really wonder about either a joint or some sort
- 4:33Speaker 2: of like living injury. Yeah, so it might be worth
- 4:35Speaker 2: checking again now that it's had time to try and heal,
- 4:39Speaker 2: even though it's not healing.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't sound like all right, yeah.
- 4:42Speaker 8: No, all right, thank you? And well, should I do
- 4:45Speaker 8: like some type of like therapy on his leg, like
- 4:50Speaker 8: where I'm holding it and moving it back so that
- 4:54Speaker 8: he hurt him?
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, it would be okay to do
- 4:59Speaker 2: that if you knew what the problem was, so I
- 5:01Speaker 2: would still because you can also cause harm if you're
- 5:04Speaker 2: not if you're not sure what the problem is. So
- 5:07Speaker 2: I would try to get a diagnosis because then physical
- 5:09Speaker 2: therapy absolutely is a good thing.
- 5:11Speaker 3: As long as we know what we're dealing with.
- 5:13Speaker 2: So, oh, just be careful about that later him.
- 5:18Speaker 7: All right, let's let's go to Christina.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Hello, Christina, Christina, where are you?
- 5:25Speaker 9: And I'm in provo?
- 5:27Speaker 4: Okay, what's your what's your kiddies name?
- 5:31Speaker 6: His name's Ozzy.
- 5:32Speaker 4: Okay.
- 5:33Speaker 9: He's a little black, short hair. We just adopted him
- 5:36Speaker 9: on the shelter like a week and a half ago,
- 5:40Speaker 9: and the last couple of days he's been having a
- 5:44Speaker 9: really stuff.
- 5:45Speaker 7: He knows.
- 5:46Speaker 9: He's been sneezing repeatedly. He's got a little small bubbles
- 5:49Speaker 9: coming out of yeah, and so I'm not sure that's
- 5:54Speaker 9: something I should take him into the VAT for. Is
- 5:57Speaker 9: that just like a common thing and it'll pass?
- 6:00Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Catch catch cold, don't they they do?
- 6:04Speaker 2: They get what we call upper respiratory complex. And cats
- 6:08Speaker 2: that come from shelters, your situation is, unfortunately, it's very
- 6:13Speaker 2: very common because in shelters there's just lots of animals
- 6:17Speaker 2: there and they do their best, but sometimes they can
- 6:20Speaker 2: be exposed to viral things. So a lot of viral
- 6:23Speaker 2: things will get better on their own just given time.
- 6:26Speaker 2: But if the cat stops eating or is lethargic, that's
- 6:31Speaker 2: a problem. And then you know, some clear nasal discharge
- 6:35Speaker 2: or some clear eye discharges is usually okay. But if
- 6:38Speaker 2: they start to get really thick and snotty or their
- 6:40Speaker 2: eyes get squinty, those are things that might be worth
- 6:44Speaker 2: treating because they can progress and get sicker from that.
- 6:47Speaker 2: And also we're in a brand new environment, so there's
- 6:49Speaker 2: stress from that and that doesn't help their immune system.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Gina would recommend afron I think probably. I'm a big
- 6:55Speaker 1: fan of it.
- 6:57Speaker 2: So sometimes we'll do antibiotics and anti virals to try
- 7:01Speaker 2: and get them through it faster so that they don't
- 7:03Speaker 2: get sick along the way. So it might be worth
- 7:05Speaker 2: getting looked at if you see those things.
- 7:07Speaker 7: All right, all right? Yeah see you Texter says, I
- 7:12Speaker 7: have a one eyed cat named Olive. She'll use the
- 7:15Speaker 7: litter box to poop, but never uses it to pee.
- 7:19Speaker 7: She'll pee on puppy pads. Why in the love of Jesus.
- 7:25Speaker 4: In the litter box.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a super common cat thing to do, and
- 7:30Speaker 2: there's a variety of reasons. So behavioral is sometimes a reason,
- 7:35Speaker 2: and that could be a thousand different things around the house,
- 7:38Speaker 2: but also there's medical reasons for that, so it's always
- 7:40Speaker 2: best to make sure that we rule those out because
- 7:44Speaker 2: if you have something treatable, you want to get it
- 7:46Speaker 2: treated and and go from there.
- 7:50Speaker 7: Again, focusing on poop, what should I do if my
- 7:54Speaker 7: dog doesn't regularly express his anal glands during a BM.
- 8:00Speaker 4: That trouble yeap.
- 8:02Speaker 2: That is unfortunately a common dog thing too that we
- 8:05Speaker 2: see and if they're not doing it. Things we try
- 8:08Speaker 2: to help with is one as there are. There's a
- 8:11Speaker 2: supplement out there called Glandex that some dogs that helps
- 8:14Speaker 2: them with that.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Are you on that bill Landex?
- 8:17Speaker 4: Yep? It does, it does help.
- 8:19Speaker 2: And then also making sure that they have good, firm,
- 8:23Speaker 2: normal poops because that that helps the glends express every
- 8:26Speaker 2: time they go. But some dogs have abnormal or inflamed glands,
- 8:29Speaker 2: and really keeping them emptied out is one of your
- 8:33Speaker 2: best options so they don't get infections and absesses.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I say that to myself every morning, Uh, express those glands,
- 8:39Speaker 1: express them.
- 8:41Speaker 5: I have.
- 8:41Speaker 6: How can you tell if it's not being expressed.
- 8:46Speaker 2: The most common things are the butt scoot, so they'll
- 8:50Speaker 2: drag themselves along the floor, or they'll be licking back
- 8:53Speaker 2: there constantly.
- 8:54Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, I couldn't reach it, so I sco.
- 8:57Speaker 3: The scot that's the telltale sign.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Usually that's why my wife said, I'm taking you in
- 9:03Speaker 1: all right? Mark is here?
- 9:04Speaker 4: Hello? Mark? Mark? Where are you? What's your question? High Metal?
- 9:11Speaker 3: Mark?
- 9:12Speaker 4: Your dog's name is?
- 9:13Speaker 10: What dog's name is? Scout? Okay, it's about a seven
- 9:17Speaker 10: it's about a seven year old Retriever mix. And she's
- 9:21Speaker 10: got a fight on the edge of her eye. Should
- 9:24Speaker 10: we be concerned about that? Or is it something that
- 9:28Speaker 10: goes away or go to the bed?
- 9:31Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 9:32Speaker 2: The the the most common thing you'll get on.
- 9:34Speaker 3: The edge of the eye is that the eyelid.
- 9:37Speaker 2: Has glands all the way across it, and sometimes they'll
- 9:40Speaker 2: get either inflamed or plugged up, and they usually don't
- 9:45Speaker 2: go away, and they usually will get bigger over time, and.
- 9:48Speaker 3: A lot of dogs they don't.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Start out causing any problems other than they're just there.
- 9:53Speaker 2: But for some dogs, if they get big enough or
- 9:55Speaker 2: inflamed enough, it'll actually start to irritate the eyeball, and
- 9:58Speaker 2: then that becomes a problem because they'll start rubbing and scratching,
- 10:01Speaker 2: and then they can hurt themselves on top of having
- 10:04Speaker 2: the little bump on the eyelids.
- 10:06Speaker 1: The same same thing people. It's called blefaridis. Yeah, and
- 10:10Speaker 1: the glands that are underneath your eyelid get clogged, little
- 10:14Speaker 1: oil glands.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Yeah, they're called my bomyan cysts or my bomyan adenomas.
- 10:19Speaker 2: And removing them when they're small is always best. They
- 10:22Speaker 2: can get them in other places, but usually if they're smaller,
- 10:26Speaker 2: I just cauterize them off, Just knock them out for
- 10:29Speaker 2: a short procedure and cauterize them off.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Is that okay, Mark, Okay, thank you? There go see ya.
- 10:35Speaker 4: All right.
- 10:37Speaker 7: Let's see my seven year old border Collie Leah is
- 10:41Speaker 7: getting overly clingy with me. She's been checked out recently,
- 10:45Speaker 7: not any health issues. There hasn't been any changes at home.
- 10:48Speaker 7: She still gets her exercise and her toys. Nothing that
- 10:50Speaker 7: I can think of to make her suddenly more clingy,
- 10:52Speaker 7: any idea.
- 10:53Speaker 3: She loves you, yeah, yeah, she loves you.
- 10:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Those are always tricky because even if we don't think
- 11:01Speaker 2: something has changed in their.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Mind or their version of what's going on, maybe something
- 11:06Speaker 3: has changed.
- 11:07Speaker 2: But Also, as dogs get older, they have mental changes too,
- 11:11Speaker 2: and probably not in the age group where we worry
- 11:13Speaker 2: about just the senior changes, but they can have cognitive changes.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Over time, get dementia.
- 11:19Speaker 2: They can, yeah, they can get a version of that.
- 11:22Speaker 2: We call it it's canine cognitive disease or decline. And
- 11:26Speaker 2: there's a whole list of things because we kind of
- 11:29Speaker 2: have to diagnose that just based on what we see
- 11:31Speaker 2: because there's not a real test for that. But if
- 11:33Speaker 2: they start meeting a lot of these categories, then we
- 11:36Speaker 2: start to lean towards that as a diagnosis.
- 11:38Speaker 1: But right there you go, Ashley is here. Hello, Ashley, Ashley,
- 11:43Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you calling.
- 11:45Speaker 11: From driving to Salt Lake for work?
- 11:48Speaker 4: Okay? And what's your animal's name?
- 11:51Speaker 11: Her name is Olive the Dog?
- 11:53Speaker 3: Okay, yes, go ahead.
- 11:56Speaker 11: Yeah, so she is a pitbull Ardale Terrier huss Boxer mix.
- 12:03Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody got around.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:06Speaker 11: She's got a lot of allergies. Four and we have
- 12:09Speaker 11: had her on apaquel, We've had her on the monthly shots.
- 12:14Speaker 11: She's always got ear infections, always red, always itching, and
- 12:19Speaker 11: we've done allergy testing and all we ruled out was
- 12:22Speaker 11: that she's allergic to beef, some type of honeybee, and
- 12:26Speaker 11: a plant that we don't have here in Utah. So
- 12:30Speaker 11: every time I take her to the vet, it feels
- 12:33Speaker 11: like they just are like, oh, yeah, she's got allergies.
- 12:35Speaker 11: But there's like no resolution. I don't have any I
- 12:38Speaker 11: don't know what to do. And is it reasonable to
- 12:40Speaker 11: get a second opinion?
- 12:42Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, for the second opinion, I think that's
- 12:45Speaker 2: always reasonable because nobody is right one hundred percent of
- 12:50Speaker 2: the time. But also different doctors have different experience and
- 12:53Speaker 2: different ways to go about managing disease, and skin is
- 12:57Speaker 2: by far one of the most difficult and frustrating and
- 13:01Speaker 2: just annoying things to deal with, and a lot of
- 13:04Speaker 2: times we reach for, you know, the the epiculs and
- 13:07Speaker 2: the other ones called cido point that you're probably talking about,
- 13:10Speaker 2: and by themselves, they are very good and very effective.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I mean, they've changed the landscape around dermatology, but they
- 13:19Speaker 2: don't work in a vacuum. And so if we're not
- 13:22Speaker 2: treating externally with I often use really good medicated shampoos
- 13:27Speaker 2: and mooses and ear cleaning and ear management. Also, food
- 13:33Speaker 2: is a factor. There's special supplements that can be factors,
- 13:36Speaker 2: and and some dogs have to be on all of.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Those things to even have a chance at that.
- 13:41Speaker 2: So I do think that, you know, it is frustrating, probably,
- 13:45Speaker 2: but there's other avenues to take, there's other other ways
- 13:48Speaker 2: to go.
- 13:49Speaker 3: So it's it's worth asking the question and maybe getting
- 13:52Speaker 3: a second opinion.
- 13:53Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's a vet right here who
- 13:56Speaker 1: has his own clinic.
- 13:57Speaker 4: You can bring your Yeah.
- 14:01Speaker 11: Yeah, we're going to bring a few of our dogs in.
- 14:03Speaker 3: So awesome, good few of your dogs.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Well, we'll take the time with you and we'll you know,
- 14:07Speaker 2: we'll make a plan and we'll help you try to
- 14:09Speaker 2: do something different.
- 14:10Speaker 9: There you go, Okay, great, thank you.
- 14:13Speaker 4: All right, somebody says, a few of our dogs.
- 14:19Speaker 7: My dog cut her pop head on a hike on Saturday.
- 14:22Speaker 7: We've been using a pain reliever and aseptic cleaner daily.
- 14:26Speaker 7: Is there a cream like neosporin that can be used
- 14:29Speaker 7: or is the cleaned our best route the aniseptic cleaner.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Some of those are okay.
- 14:38Speaker 2: The problem with anything topicals they can just lick it off.
- 14:42Speaker 2: So if they don't have, you know, the old lamp
- 14:44Speaker 2: shade or some way to protect it. Popads are tough anyway,
- 14:48Speaker 2: because they're they're hard to heal, but neo sporn plain
- 14:52Speaker 2: old neo sporn is actually fine as long as they're
- 14:54Speaker 2: not licking it off. So the licking tends to be
- 14:56Speaker 2: a bigger problem at dogs.
- 14:58Speaker 1: What about so instead of a collar or the lampshade,
- 15:01Speaker 1: the cone of shame, why did you put something on
- 15:05Speaker 1: the popad and then put one of those little booties.
- 15:08Speaker 2: On for outdoor stuff or temporary That's okay. The problem
- 15:12Speaker 2: is that if they're left on too long, they will
- 15:13Speaker 2: trap moisture and then you get a whole new problem
- 15:16Speaker 2: with that too. So if used appropriately, that stuff is great,
- 15:20Speaker 2: but you can't monitor your dog twenty four seven and
- 15:22Speaker 2: they can just pull that stuff off and still chew
- 15:24Speaker 2: on their foot.
- 15:26Speaker 7: I have a one year old French bulldog that will
- 15:28Speaker 7: destroy the heck out of every toy that we buy them. Yay,
- 15:32Speaker 7: and you recommend a durable brand.
- 15:34Speaker 5: That's that's my constant battle.
- 15:37Speaker 7: The Kong toys are pretty durable, are they? Well, there's
- 15:42Speaker 7: the Congs are the plastic toys, but they also have
- 15:44Speaker 7: a series of plush toys that are really really durable.
- 15:48Speaker 4: I've got one that's been through three dogs.
- 15:51Speaker 2: That's the brand and k Yeah, Unfortunately, there's no toy
- 15:56Speaker 2: out there that's not impossible to break down. And the
- 16:00Speaker 2: problem is with some of them is dogs their their
- 16:03Speaker 2: jaw muscle can be stronger than their teeth sometimes, so
- 16:06Speaker 2: they can break their teeth if the toys are too hard. So, yeah,
- 16:10Speaker 2: the clungs are the most popular. Probably there's also.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Nyla bones, which can be too hard for some dogs.
- 16:18Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a that's a tough one because it
- 16:20Speaker 2: is good behavior for them and probably keeps them manageable.
- 16:23Speaker 2: But I also think finding other ways to keep them
- 16:25Speaker 2: entertained as much as possible is a good thing.
- 16:28Speaker 6: How do you feel about antlers?
- 16:30Speaker 2: I would I would not do antlers because they they
- 16:33Speaker 2: will break their teeth on them.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and you're talking about like real Yeah
- 16:38Speaker 1: they sell them.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Yeah, they sell them. I've seen a lot of harm
- 16:42Speaker 3: done by those. Yeah.
- 16:44Speaker 1: All right, well that's it, Doctor Josh Davis, thank you
- 16:49Speaker 1: for being with us. It's trilogy, Veterinary.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Trilogyvesandy dot Com.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Yeah that's the easy one. Okay, okay, all right, all right,
- 16:58Speaker 3: see you guys. Thank you. Sen