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Upright Christian Parenting - Treehouse Storytelle... - Is America Facing a Bible Crisis? | Bunni Pounds on Revival, Faith & the Next Generation · Christian Mix 106 On Demand

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Hey friends, welcome to season five of Upright Christian Parenting Podcast,
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part of the Treehouse Storyteller family.
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I'm your host, Hannah Pru, author, homeschool mama, and fellow parent.
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This is your place for upright parenting in a sideways culture.
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Hey, welcome back to Upright Christian Parenting. Today, I have funny pounds.
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Yay, welcome to the Treehouse Bunny. Well, it's great to be with you, Hannah.
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It's awesome. I've met you years ago in person at NRB, and we at least have
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that reunion every year, but I'm really glad that you are finally with us,
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in the podcast, and we get to have a deeper conversation and away from the crowds.
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I think last good conversation I had with you, It was drowning out 50 other
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people around us. And I'm glad to just have this moment with just you and,
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you know, just really hear your heart. And man, you love America.
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You're passionate about this next generation coming up, you know,
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just really setting the stage and setting the tone for what this country needs
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more of. And obviously that is the Lord.
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But I would just love for my listeners to hear a little bit about your heart,
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a little bit about, you know, you've had some really awesome projects you've
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been a part of the past year, and I'd love to dig in there.
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Well, Hannah, it's great to be with you. And yeah, we want to encourage every
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parent to raise up godly seed for our culture and for this country.
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You know, God is moving so deeply in this country.
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And I'm really just a testimony of the grace of God and the ability to say yes
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to Him and watch Him move miraculously.
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I started out actually as a two-time business owner with my husband,
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entrepreneur, raised my kids doing pest control and the restaurant business
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and then jumped into politics.
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I had 16 years of political consulting, running congressional campaigns,
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ministering to elected officials and candidates, ran for Congress in 2018, lost a race there.
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And God then redirected me into full-time ministry.
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Seven years ago, I launched a movement called Christians Engaged with the hope
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of getting every believer to pray, vote, engage, and steward our nation well.
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And by the grace of God, we have mobilized 1.2 million Christians now to do that.
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And then, you know, like I'm not busy enough, the Lord puts it on my heart to
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lead the largest Bible reading event in the United States history,
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which for 18 months, our team kind of slaved over that.
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It was amazing. April 18 through 25 of this year, commemorating America's 250,
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500 of our national leaders read the entire Bible, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.
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Eastern Standard Time from Washington, D.C., from the Museum of the Bible.
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And we had everybody from Candace Cameron Bray, who is my national spokesperson, to Cameron and B.J.
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Arnett from the Forge movie, Patricia Heaton, to six cabinet members,
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six governors, the president of the United States reading uninterrupted scripture
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from the Oval Office. It was amazing.
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Epic. And so, yeah, now starting a Bible revival on the top of that.
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So God is so faithful and we've got a lot to dig in there, but I've had so much fun walking with Jesus.
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Oh, that's so awesome. Do you have any really awesome, I'm sure you do,
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do you have any crazy stories from America Reads the Bible that you'd love to
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share? Like just like a huge takeaway of, oh my word, I can't believe this happened
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or, you know, some testimonies.
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Well, we had a business leader that literally was on a plane watching it,
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heading to Washington, D.C., and he said that when we were,
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bringing people back to the Bible at the opening celebration and Speaker Mike
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Johnson had just spoken and Patricia Heaton and others, and I was calling people
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back to daily Bible reading, he actually got on his face.
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In the plane, in the plane aisle and knelt down before the Lord and said,
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I'm rededicating my heart back to the Bible as a ministry leader.
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That was deeply impacting the amount of emails and Facebook messages we've got
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from families that had it on nonstop in their living room.
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One story that touched me was a 13-year-old boy who has kind of gotten rebellious.
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He was sick one day, and he just sat there on the couch and listened to Daniel
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and Ezekiel and Jeremiah with his mom and rededicated his heart back to Jesus.
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I mean, it was powerful things that God did.
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Wow, that's beautiful. I love that so much.
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Now, I've heard you talk about it, but I would just love for you to talk about
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it again here in this context.
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But, you know, you relate really that reading in the public square to something
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biblically. Can you tell us about that story in history?
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Yeah, I just finished a book. It's called Stepping Up to Lead,
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Rebuilding a Nation in the Footsteps of Nehemiah. It came out in May right after this event.
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But I've studied the book of Nehemiah for years and Ezra.
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But Ezra was such an amazing figure because he goes back to Jerusalem with Zerubbabel and the remnant.
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I mean, when we think about fervent, faithful people, I mean,
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the remnant were the remnant, right, for a reason.
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They were going back to rebuild the walls and to build the temple.
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And the remnant had forgotten who they were.
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The remnant didn't know the books of Moses.
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People are like, you've got an agenda, yeah I do, I've got a big agenda,
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I want you to know Jesus, that's my agenda, and I'm not going to apologize for
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it, because Jesus wants you to know him too.
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And Ezra stood up and read the entire five books of Moses, the law of the Lord
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to the Israelites and reminded them who they were.
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In Nehemiah 8, we see the scriptures being read again, public reading of scripture
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again after they had rebuilt the walls and they were celebrating and that the
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joy of the Lord is their strength and all that. They were reading the word again.
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And it hits me, Hannah, you know, we're trying to raise up leaders for our country.
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We're trying to get people to go impact culture, you know, run a business,
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go get involved with media, you know, help your children's education.
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Get involved in politics, whatever God's calling you to do.
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Yeah. But we don't have enough internal fortitude sometimes to do that stuff
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because we're sitting there binge watching Netflix all day long.
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Yeah. And it really comes back to we need to know the grand story of God.
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And we need to know our part in that story.
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And reading scripture daily and going to the Bible every day and saying, Jesus, you're alive.
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You wanna speak to me. You wanna change my life is the beginning point,
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I believe, for all that. And really the root of the problem in our American
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culture is biblical illiteracy.
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Wow. Wow. That's so good. I love the story of Nehemiah and Ezra.
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I fell in love with that when you guys were really launching America Reads the
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Bible and getting to watch that.
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I loved the heart behind that. And it's, we really are in that time where I
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think the American church, I mean, you see people like Eric Metaxas going, hey, wake up.
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You know, the American church has really, we are the remnant and we've kind
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of lost that in the same way.
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And so I just, I love the reminder going back to scripture. Like we've got to
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wash ourselves with the word.
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We have to wash this nation with the word and come back to him and draw near to him.
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And I don't know, do you feel like we're seeing like a major split where people
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are pushing into the Lord
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in a greater way, but then also people are pulling away, like really just defining
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the lukewarm is starting to divide and split. Do you see that?
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Yes, Hannah, I do see that. I see a fervency happening where people are being
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revived and they're like, you know what, we need to go back to simple Christianity
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of simply worshiping, praying,
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being in community, reading scripture, meditating on scripture.
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I mean, Christianity is not that complicated. We have overcomplicated it.
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We have made it a religious duty instead of a relationship with Jesus.
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And so I do see that there is a revival of sorts happening that's breaking people
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out of religious spirits and back into a relationship with Jesus in an intimate fashion.
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At the same time, you're seeing just a cultural Christianity that's,
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continue to take root in the American church. And I really think it comes down
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to how do you value your time?
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Is Jesus on your calendar? I mean, let's be brutally honest.
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We talk about money all the time, whether we're giving, whether we're having
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a cheerful heart, a generous heart of how we give our resources to the kingdom of God.
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But how many of us actually give our time to Jesus.
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We are so busy. We are so consumed with every other voice speaking to us, Hannah.
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And I think part of my calling is to call people back to just simplicity of
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reading the Word, of hearing God's voice, and walking with Jesus.
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Because otherwise, we will not have anything to give anybody.
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We won't have any conversation that's worth anything.
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And we won't be able to raise up godly seed and godly children that have a real
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authentic relationship with Jesus if we ourselves are not walking in authentic
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relationship with Jesus.
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And so, you know, I always said when I was a mom, when my kids were small,
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I'm still a mom, but they're older.
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Always a mom. No, I'm a grandma.
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That I wanted my boys to see in my husband and I, we were not perfect.
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We needed Jesus every day to make it, right?
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Um, but we wanted to show them that you can have an authentic,
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real relationship with God and he can touch your life every day and you can touch his heart as well.
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That's so good. I love the word authentic. I think of, you know,
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the world that our kids are being raised in and grandkids are being raised in.
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And there are very few things that are real and that are true and that are authentic and genuine.
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And I know with my kids, they can spot a mile away when something is fake or
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something is AI generated or, you know, before I can.
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And they crave it. They crave authenticity. And I really do believe this next
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generation is only going to survive if they push into the authentic and they learn.
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You know, you mentioned that relationship, just going back to the simple worship with the Lord.
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And we've made, you know, 90s and early 2000s, the church was just all about.
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The bells and the whistles and the light shows and everything.
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And all of that's fun. It's not bad. It's just that we have lost sight of that
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genuine, true faith and, you know, just restoring back to our roots and having
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that simplicity that you said.
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And that it really is, I think about the Lord, we're coming back to the heart of worship.
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And just really, it's such an oldie, but it's a goodie with,
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you know, the lyrics because it really is, I think, what our nation is being called to do.
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I think we really are just being called to come back to the heart of worship
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and what that really looks like. And that it's not for the hype,
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it's for the true connection with the Lord and with the Father.
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And so, yeah. And I'll say something about that, Hannah. I was shocked at,
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The comments on social media, on the emails that we got in response to America Reads the Bible, just,
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I said at the end of the book of Revelation, we discovered over seven days,
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there is an absolute famine in the land for the word of God.
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When we are, you know, when a pastor, bless them, but most pastors will spend
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maybe a minute or two reading scripture in a 30 minute message, maybe a couple verses.
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We don't esteem the capacity of people to take in the Bible and it's really to our own detriment.
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So one of the reasons why we've launched a new ministry, Bunny Pounds Ministries, real unique, but.
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We're starting a new Bible initiative after America Reads the Bible called The
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Whole Bible Live is we want to actually take people through the Bible that we
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just created with America Reads the Bible in partnership with Great American Pure Flix.
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So we're cutting up the content in 30-minute segments.
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We're literally going to mentor people, meet with them on Zoom once a week,
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walk them through the Bible 30 minutes a day, six days a week.
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You can go through the whole Bible in 24 weeks. So just a half a year it takes
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to go through the entire counsel of God.
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But we also wanna do regional events in churches where we just read the whole book of Acts.
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We sit around and discuss it every five chapters and get people back into realizing
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they can read the Bible. They can read it in their families.
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They can read it in their communities. We can read it in our local churches.
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And then we just announced that we're gonna do another large event in 2028 with
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18 to 30 year olds reading the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation from
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but it really starts with a commitment from each of us to simply turn off everything
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and go back to just simply reading Scripture.
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It literally can change our life.
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Oh, so, so good. Okay. So you're telling me that you guys will actually meet
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on Zoom with like real people that have skin and they're not AI bots. Yes.
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Real community, real discipleship. Yes.
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What, what a concept. I mean, it's just, it's just wild.
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I mean, there's so many, you know, Bible apps and, and Bible resources,
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and I use some of them and, and they're great, but they do not replace humans.
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They do not replace meeting together in fellowship with an actual person.
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And that is amazing. I am beyond excited for this. When I heard that you were,
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a part of this, it was just like, oh, I cannot wait to talk to you more about it and hear your heart.
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And we'll have two times a week that people can meet with us,
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Hannah, and it'll start January 1. So people can sign up right now at bunnypounds.org
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to go through the whole Bible with us.
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It'll be on the Bible app. It'll be on PureFlix as well and other places for
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people to go on their own.
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But what I've discovered, and you probably know this as well,
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is we really thrive when we're in community and we feel like we have to show
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up somewhere and we've got to do something that helps encourage us.
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And we want to break off kind of just the religious mindset and people,
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you know, if they don't get through numbers, you can still start in Deuteronomy.
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You know, this is about just being and showing up every day and saying,
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Jesus, I want to interact with you. I want you to speak to me.
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And, you know, it's not a religious thing. It's a Jesus thing is what we're
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trying to break people into.
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Yeah, no, that's good. I mean, we live in, you know, the most connected way
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possible with all, you know, access to anyone in the world through the Internet. And.
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Yet we are very isolated and, you know, people do not have community,
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like a true sense of community.
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And so what you're bringing to the table is just beautiful.
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I also think about the idea of accountability. When we don't have people to,
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you know, worship and pray alongside of us and, you know, study alongside of
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us, we lose that piece of accountability that is so vital.
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And that's when we fall into the enemy's snare is when we don't have people
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to hold us up. And I think this is gonna be an incredible thing that you're
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gonna see a lot of fruit from.
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So I think it's really cool. Well, and I wanna encourage families, do it together.
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Pick a 30-minute segment during your breakfast hour and just let the national
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leaders or 122 ministries read scripture to you every day.
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It's fascinating to just hear people that we know in culture,
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in church culture, reading the Bible, and it's a highly entertaining way to do it with your kids.
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So I'm hoping that families as a whole sign up to do the Bible together.
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It will be a really beautiful thing. Yeah, that's awesome.
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That's awesome. That's really cool. These are incredible resources.
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I'll definitely put all of that in the show notes so people can easily just
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click and find out everything they need to know.
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So from your perspective, because you've been in politics, you've been in business,
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you've been really everywhere,
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what do you see in culture that you feel like, oh man, this next generation
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is really going to need fill in the blank?
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What is it that you're noticing from the front lines that we really need to be mindful of as parents.
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I think I'm really seeing a huge need for just conversations.
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I'm going back to the authentic word, authentic conversations.
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I was just on a plane Thursday, Hannah going to a conference and a kid walks
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in with an ACDC t-shirt and sits right next to me and he's in his early 20s.
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And I just struck out a conversation with him. I mean, I'm not the youngest
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person on the block, but I just start talking to him. I find out he's a military kid.
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He's had a kind of a strange relationship with his father. He was named after
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Ronald Reagan. He's a political science major, but, you know,
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not so conservative, you know.
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And we just started talking. And for an hour, I talked to this young man.
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And I just realized again, every time I have a conversation like this,
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it reminds me again how desperate these 20-year-olds are for a real friendship, a real relationship.
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And he actually emailed me just the other night to continue the conversation.
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And then randomly, the lady that was sitting in front of me with her husband
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found me on the internet and emailed me yesterday about how blessed she was by this conversation.
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And she was just listening in, just listening. And then I guess I said my name
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or told him that I would get my book to him or something.
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And she found me. And it just, again, I think we are so full of noise and all,
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you know, whether it's, and we love podcasts, you podcast, I podcast.
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But there's so much stuff going on constantly in our souls that,
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you know, when you have authentic relationship with God and you're sitting there
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and he's talking to you, it's significant.
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When you have a relationship with somebody in your life that just feels authentic
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and real. It's significant.
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And I believe that those that are, you know, 16 to 30 right now are desperate for that.
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They're full of the most loneliest generation ever, which shouldn't be happening,
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but it is. And we've got to turn off our phones and turn off the social media
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and get back to real conversations.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's so good. Yeah, I think of, you know, really our.
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The way you and I were raised is so different. And, you know,
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you had to actually like go knock on someone's door or call them on a phone
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with a giant spiral cord and it was connected to the wall.
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And, you know, it's just that it is such a nostalgic thing looking back at it.
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But, you know, I remember being really so sad, like when my when my friend Kelly
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across the street couldn't play with me and she was busy and like,
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who am I going to play with?
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And and then, you know, I would be creative and do some creative project.
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And then we'd play probably like two hours later or the next day.
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And, you know, I thought that was devastating when someone just couldn't see
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me for that one moment in time.
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And now we look at where, you know, the next generation, that 16 to,
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you know, 30s, they have never known life without social media, without cell phones.
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And it's interesting to me that kids want to,
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They'd rather just sit there and talk on their phone to a friend than get in the car and go drive.
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It's like you can really touch and feel and see in person and look in each other's
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eyes and laugh together and share the experience together.
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It's so bizarre to me. Really, for the first time in all of humanity,
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we have this weird lack of connection.
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Um, so, yeah. And so I want to encourage those about, and you don't look that
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old, Hannah. Oh, thank you.
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There's gray. Look closer. Look closer. Yeah. I mean, I was thinking about that
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too. I mean, in third grade, I snuck out my window to go hang out with a friend,
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right? I was so desperate. And of course I got in serious trouble for it.
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Um, but we really need to, um, be intentional about pulling these younger people
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into situations that they might rebel against initially, but,
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they will find value in, you know?
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I had to, I've had to take my two sons that are 29 and 27 now.
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I've had to take them into, you know, situations that they didn't want to go,
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but they found value in it.
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My son was, Israel was 18 years old and I put him on a plane and said,
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you're going to go help me lead worship in Romania.
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And he spent three years there and came back with a beautiful wife,
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right? Because God touched his life so much and he did not want to go on that
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trip, right? He did not want to get involved there.
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But that's exactly what he needed. And so, you know, I grew up in an age where,
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You know, we did street evangelism. We went to Mardi Gras and shared the gospel,
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from Christ for the Nations. And, you know, we had real relationships and real
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experiences that created leadership in us.
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And I just want to remind us as some of the older people, let's look for opportunities
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to generate that in our kids and our grandkids.
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And it might force them into an uncomfortable situation, but that's OK.
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That's what they really need.
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Yeah, I think that's such a good reminder. I think you hit the nail on the head,
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you know, really talking about pulling them into something that they might not want to do.
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And the easy thing is to go, oh, they don't want to do this.
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I don't want to push them.
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But as a parent and, you know, when you see those kind of red flags or you notice that.
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You have that discernment. The Lord has given you that, you know,
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discernment about your own kids of like, oh, we need to, I really want them
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to do, you know, whatever this is, you know, whether that's going with you somewhere,
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like a trip, like you said.
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Or whether it's like, hey, I just want you to like sit here with me or,
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hey, let's go to the store together.
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So I love talking to my kids in the car because they're like buckled and we're captive.
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And I've always enjoyed that and just making them go with you.
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And it's easy. Once they hit a certain age, it's easy to be like,
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oh, yeah, just stay home. It's fine. Get some more schoolwork done or whatever.
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And I'll have some alone time.
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But it is so impactful when we decide to do the harder thing and what's harder for them as well.
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And we do kind of twist their arm a little and force them into something that
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really can be very beautiful.
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And sometimes, you know, because their brains haven't developed fully,
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they don't know what's fully good for them.
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And as a parent, seeing those opportunities and taking advantage of them and,
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you know, really pushing into them when they're pulling away.
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You know, some of the best advice given to me when my kids were a lot younger
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is, hey, sometimes they'll pull away from you and that's when you have to push
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in that much harder. Yeah.
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And so just really, really being mindful of that and knowing that on the front
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end. So They're like, oh, oh, they're pulling back. This means I need to like
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grab them and pull them in and reel them back in.
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You know, we're called to steer. And, you know, I think of like the rod.
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The rod isn't just for like whopping them over the head. The rod's for like
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steering them. Like, hey, you know, come on, come back this way.
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So it's good. It's really good.
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Yeah, another example of that, Hannah, is I took my 26-year-old son to Charlie
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Kirk's memorial with me.
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And he was so deeply impacted. And it was such a bonding experience for us.
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I mean, he's a dad of two. He had two kids by that point.
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And I said, Ben, I really feel like you're supposed to go with me to this memorial.
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And number one, it made him realize what I do and all the people I know and
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all the impact I've had that he wasn't fully aware of.
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But it was also just being there and realizing that he could have a part in
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his generation's future and that God was speaking to his life,
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you know, not just through Charlie, but through, you know, just being in the
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room and realizing that God's not done with his generation.
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And that's really, really important that we try to facilitate those experiences for our children.
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That's beautiful. I love that.
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Oh, man. All right. Well, I don't want to keep you too long.
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I really want to encourage the
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audience to just find the links in the show notes and connect with you.
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And it's just like the sweetest thing when people like you've experienced connect
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with you and encourage you and say, hey, this was just so powerful.
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And I love the feedback that you received. And that guy on the plane,
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I just can picture. both of them.
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Man, people on the planes are the best, right?
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I love those conversations and those just really significant moments that the
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Lord brings us and divine appointments, as we like to say. And that's really cool. So.
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What else is a call to action that you have for us?
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Well, Hannah, I just wrote a book called Stepping Up to Lead,
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Rebuilding a Nation in the Footsteps of Nehemiah that just came out.
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Candice Cameron Bray, DJ Tanner wrote the foreword.
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He was my spokesperson for America is the Bible. And we just want to really
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encourage people to step out and be the leaders they're called to be.
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And it goes through the whole chronological study of the book of Nehemiah,
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but also the 16 characteristics of Nehemiah and highlights.
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Each chapter highlights American heroes today in different spheres of culture,
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that are doing those things.
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I mean, anybody from my friend Leland, who's a worship leader,
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to Patricia Heaton, standing up for the Jewish people, to Dr.
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James Dobson or David Wilkerson that have passed on.
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So we just want to inspire Americans that now is the time for us to be Ezra's,
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for us to be reading scripture to our families and making scripture a priority in our life.
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But it's also time for us to do the stuff and to be leaders.
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And it doesn't matter how old you are. It doesn't matter how young you are.
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God wants to use you.
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So anyway, check out that book. And then also we'd love for you to go through
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the Bible with us January 1, the whole Bible live at bunnypounds.org.
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That's awesome. Bunny, can you give us a sneak? I'm dying to know if there's
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like, I would love to hear like one hero that you talk about.
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Well, I talk about my friend Scott Turner, who's our HUD secretary in the administration
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right now. Scott was an NFL player.
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He grew up without a lot of opportunities, but God raised him up.
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He went and ran for the statehouse and became a pastor, associate pastor at
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Prestonwood Baptist Church with Dr. Jack Graham.
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And now is our HUD secretary working for the president right now,
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dealing with everything housing and, you know, poverty in our country.
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So working with the economic opportunity zones and all that stuff to provide
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more opportunity for people.
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But he's such an amazing example of a man who just literally step by step in
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his life said yes to God and allowed God to open the doors for him.
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And he's the one that leads prayer in the cabinet meetings most of the time.
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If you see Scott pray, the president's like, Scott, you know how to pray.
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He knows his God and he knows how to walk with God.
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And he's just one example. There are many examples of people,
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whether it's Patricia Heaton in the movie in Hollywood area,
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having been Everybody Loves Raymond or The Middle, that is bold and standing up for
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the Jewish people against culture right now,
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or people like Leland that's a revivalist that's just faithful to write songs
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to Jesus that impacts the world.
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So anyway, it's a great book. If you want a Bible study for your family or your
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church, I just highly encourage everybody to be leaders in their community.
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It's time for us to step out to lead.
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I just love that idea because I think there are so few heroes or role models
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that our children can have and that we can have.
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We kind of, it's like we're not in the Michael Jordan world anymore.
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Like we just, I always think of him when I think of like a role model because
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when you're, you know, when we're young, it's like, oh, Michael Jordan,
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what a great athlete, you know?
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But we have so few people that we can, you know, really point our kids to aspire
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to be like. It's like, no, like not Taylor Swift. No, not her over there. No, not him.
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You know, but we are we really are craving, you know, very true heroes that
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we can aspire to be and be inspired by and encouraged by their life story.
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And, you know, when we don't have great people to look towards,
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then we're limiting what we choose to do, I think.
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I think if we see an example of someone, whether it's in history or in modern
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time, and we go, wow, like they did that? Like, how did they even pull that
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off? That's incredible.
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And their life is a living testimony of the Lord's, you know, power in their life.
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Then then that gives us I think it it grows our faith in order to see their
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life and what they're able to do and you know I think I think that's one of
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the things that we kind of all experienced.
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With Charlie's martyrdom you know we were like holy cow like this man was able
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like for the whole world you know I was already watching but people that weren't watching,
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realized how much work he had been doing and what an impact he had and what a threat he had become.
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To the evils of this world.
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And to look at someone's life like that and go, man, look at the hours that
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he put in and the time and what he was able to do. And now...
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All right, Hannah, step it up. Like we got it. We got it.
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Come on. We got this. We got this. I can't complain about what I'm doing.
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I got it. I got to push forward for the kingdom. And I just I applaud you for,
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such an inspiring book. And I'm so excited to to read it. I haven't read it yet.
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So very awesome. And I encourage everyone to go get it. I think it's it's fantastic.
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Thank you, Hannah. Well, it's a call to us in a leadership crisis that we need
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to be different and we need to stand up to lead.
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And I love to tell our young people when we have leadership retreats,
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we always start with, what do you want people to say at your funeral?
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It sounds so morbid, but I mean, really, we have to live from that eternal perspective.
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What is your life going to count for? Yes.
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And then that has to impact your daily decisions.
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What do you do with your body, your soul, and your spirit to live out the call
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of God on your life every day?
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And so I think Nehemiah is a perfect example of that.
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Someone who was a mobilizer, someone that had favor on his life,
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was a man of prayer and fasting, a man of strategic wisdom, somebody that brought
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joy into every situation.
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And so I just want to inspire people that, you know.
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If you go to Jesus every day, you can live a grand adventure and we can inspire
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the next generations to come.
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And, you know, when I die, I hope that people that gather at my memorial service
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say, Bunny loved Jesus well and she loved people well and she lived in radical faith.
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That would be my hope. Well, I think you have nothing to worry about there.
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I think we all can see that. And, man, I think just the legacy that we leave
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is, you know, a choice we have to make.
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What do we want it to look like? And, and we, you know, every day can,
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can face the day with that in mind and just that kingdom mindset.
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And if we, if we lose sight, the second we lose sight of, you know,
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really having that eternal mentality, then we start living differently.
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We're living for the world, but if we keep on the forefront just that,
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you know, we are not, we're not home yet and we've got a lot of work to do before
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we get there and the Lord's called us to something here on earth.
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Then I think we're going to leave the legacy that, you know,
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prayerfully is one that is worth living up to.
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So thank you. Thank you, Bunny, for your work that you're doing.
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And uh man i just i love all the hats that you're wearing and and all the all
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the things that you've got going on and,
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it's um it's beautiful and it's inspiring and you know we're called to be a
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voice in the public square and you are inspiring me and you're doing that so
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i just really appreciate it thank you for having me on hannah yes thanks so much.
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