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Twitter Love, QBs & Other NFL Storylines · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites presented by Draft Kings. The crown
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  Speaker 1: is yours. We are an Action network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz,
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  Speaker 1: your host, back at it with my people. The Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister of DJ Nation, Stucky, the first lady of the pod,
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  Speaker 1: Kendrim Middleton is here. Evan Abrams Stats Hound is back
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  Speaker 1: from Vaca as well. We're talking football today. The merry
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  Speaker 1: go round of sporting events that we have to lock
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  Speaker 1: in on on the Spring and summer are just about up.
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  Speaker 1: Mandatory mini camps have wrapped up. We've got storylines of
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  Speaker 1: plenty to sort through. By the way Mailbag episode on Thursdays,
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  Speaker 1: so get those in podcasts at Better Collective dot com.
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  Speaker 1: That's podcasts at Better Collective dot com. We will take
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  Speaker 1: any question that you have for us. Nothing off the
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  Speaker 1: table for the Favorite Screw first and foremost, So let's
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  Speaker 1: check in on the team, Stucky. Your first Father's Day
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  Speaker 1: has come and gone. How was it?
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  Speaker 2: It was bitter sweet? First without my dad, first without Junior,
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  Speaker 2: but first with the fourth, So yeah, it was bittersweet.
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  Speaker 2: And then I also had that's given out on this
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  Speaker 2: podcast at Sam Burns forty to one, which was cruel.
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  Speaker 1: Are you, are you a believer in the fun sweat
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  Speaker 1: or is it only fun when you win the sweat?
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  Speaker 1: Because I saw that a lot out there from Sam
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  Speaker 1: Burns backers that you know, they just enjoyed the ride,
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  Speaker 1: but I have a tough time enjoying the sweat when
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  Speaker 1: I come up empty.
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  Speaker 2: No. I mean, yeah, it was, it was fun, but
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  Speaker 2: ultimately it's only fun if you win. So yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: plot that didn't go and then Clark made that those
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  Speaker 2: two had those two other really really clutch plutts at
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  Speaker 2: the end was the difference. I really did think he
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  Speaker 2: was going to get there at one point, which made
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  Speaker 2: it a little disappointing. But yeah, always the bridesmaid in
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  Speaker 2: a second, so what are you gonna do? But uh
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  Speaker 2: yeah it was nice.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Kendre, I feel like I'm living in an alternate
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  Speaker 1: universe because yesterday the big topic was the US Open
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  Speaker 1: fans unmercifully booing and heckling Wyndham Clark. And yet all
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  Speaker 1: I see on my timeline from the World Cup is
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  Speaker 1: the wholesome unity that has been created in this country
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  Speaker 1: from soccer fans that are typically the hooligans of the
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  Speaker 1: sports world. What is happening that we have golf fans
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  Speaker 1: that don't know how to act right and soccer fans
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  Speaker 1: that are This is like woodstock, the way that these
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  Speaker 1: fans are falling in love with each other.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just a little bit of global propaganda. Kravitz.
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  Speaker 3: I think that that's all that's going on here, is
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  Speaker 3: that they want to make us hate each other and
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  Speaker 3: think that everybody else is a bunch of hooligans. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: we're all just komba yawing and having a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Would be it? Maybe we've been sold a false bill
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  Speaker 1: of goods and we all love each other after all.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, big news overnight. First of all, congrats
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  Speaker 1: to Oklahoma winning there the College World Series title. Never
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  Speaker 1: a sweat. They dominated UNC in Game three, But right
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  Speaker 1: after that game ended, the real news broke. I had
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  Speaker 1: just fallen asleep, so I woke up to this news
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Yannis headed to the Miami Heat and the
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  Speaker 1: steam Chasers are out. The title odds got cut in
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  Speaker 1: half after the news broke over on DraftKings love the
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  Speaker 1: move for Miami. I'm not sure what this does for
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  Speaker 1: them in the title picture. I'm sure, Kendra, you all
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  Speaker 1: want my full fledged breakdown of the trade and all
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  Speaker 1: of the pieces involved.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, can you give me a rosebud thorn and then
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  Speaker 3: we can move the fuck on?
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain to me how that game works again?
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  Speaker 3: It's like your high low hero, So you're high of something,
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  Speaker 3: you're low of something, and your unexpected hero.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the the high is Tyler hero going
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  Speaker 1: back to Milwaukee. I didn't realize that through this trade
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  Speaker 1: we were going to get this sort of hometown story.
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  Speaker 1: The low is it taking pat Riley ten years to
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  Speaker 1: pull off another move like this.
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  Speaker 3: They both are basically where they were when they started.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't talk again pretty much. I think the
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  Speaker 1: hero in this is that the Celtics didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: give up Jalen Brown because I don't think that would
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  Speaker 1: have been a good move for them.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a good move for them either. However,
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  Speaker 3: I think that he is pissed off, so.
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  Speaker 1: It might be an untenable situation. So we'll see, and
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  Speaker 1: any grandiose opinions on the pot. I do want to say,
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  Speaker 1: as a disclaimer, do not go out there and bet
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  Speaker 1: the Miami to win the title right now. This is
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  Speaker 1: not the time to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I think that this whole thing was stupid and drama
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  Speaker 3: for no reason. Nobody is better off or worse off
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  Speaker 3: than when they started, just to change of scenery for
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  Speaker 3: no reason and a bunch of drama for nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty much anything else on your mind, Kendro. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a full fl edged, deep into the dark waters
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  Speaker 1: of Kender's mind question in a while. I'm curious what
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  Speaker 1: is percolating?
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  Speaker 2: What could you have been?
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  Speaker 3: We are so back, Okay, I've been NonStop on every
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  Speaker 3: single show and the Internet talking about the World Cup,
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  Speaker 3: specifically Boston and the Scottish being here. But the Bostonians
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  Speaker 3: are so obsessed with the Scottish men that there's this
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  Speaker 3: girl that's going viral here right now for meeting one
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  Speaker 3: of them and immediately getting on a flight to Miami
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  Speaker 3: with this random stranger to go to the next like
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  Speaker 3: Scotland game in Miami. So I want to know, when
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  Speaker 3: you guys were single, what's the craziest thing you've done
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  Speaker 3: for a girl or like on a whim a date,
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  Speaker 3: like did something insane. I will also allow for the
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  Speaker 3: craziest way you have been turned down by a girl,
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  Speaker 3: Because I went to the bars on Saturday night until
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  Speaker 3: like three o'clock in the morning and got trapped in
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  Speaker 3: a booth by one of these guys and had to
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  Speaker 3: convinced them that I was a lesbian so he would
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  Speaker 3: let me leave.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, stuck, you want to tackle this one first.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, craziest thing I've done. I mean, I married
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  Speaker 2: the girl I met on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: So I got your wife on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. She followed me. She was a she
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  Speaker 2: was the fan. She followed me and.
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  Speaker 1: We went back.
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  Speaker 2: We went back and forth d m ing. I texted
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  Speaker 2: her the night that Kentucky lost to Wisconsin. I DMed
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  Speaker 2: her that night. That was the first time we started talking.
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  Speaker 2: I DMed her that night. She she would always like
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  Speaker 2: reply and I was like, man, this is like there
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  Speaker 2: was like it was like the one girl that followed me.
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  Speaker 2: I had like one girl follower, this one I was
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  Speaker 2: anonymous uh on Twitter with a locked account because I
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  Speaker 2: was working in finance and I DM. I DMed her
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  Speaker 2: it was the uh, the only girl I've ever d
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  Speaker 2: m in my life. And I said, it was a
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  Speaker 2: really funny DM. I said, because Kentucky. She was a
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  Speaker 2: diar Kentucky fan. I said, sorry for your loss. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to talk about it, here this is my number.
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  Speaker 2: And then she called me and that night at like
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  Speaker 2: three in the morning from the bar and we talked.
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  Speaker 2: And then the next morning I texted her and she
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  Speaker 2: had no recollection of who I was or that we talked,
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  Speaker 2: so that explained.
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  Speaker 3: To her, you married a reply guy. That gives me hope.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then we started talking for like a year, then we met,
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  Speaker 2: then we started dating shortly thereafter, and then got married
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years after that, and then here we
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  Speaker 2: are with a kid.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that is amazing. You might be one of the
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  Speaker 1: only people in the country with that love story. You
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  Speaker 1: guys ask phenomenal questions. I want to start by saying that,
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  Speaker 1: but often I feel ill because I have it. I know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've known each other now for a full year.
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  Speaker 1: You know that there's a story somewhere lodged in my
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  Speaker 1: brain of me getting horrendously turned down by a woman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that has just happened numerous times so far. Can I
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  Speaker 1: think of the best example. No, But when I was
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  Speaker 1: in third grade, oh god, I had a huge crush
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  Speaker 1: on this girl, Stacey, and I remember calling her house
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  Speaker 1: and I sang, can you feel the love tonight? By
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  Speaker 1: Elton John off of the Lion King album CA and
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  Speaker 1: she hung up on me. Understandably, I've been scarred by
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  Speaker 1: that ever since.
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  Speaker 3: Funny, Oh, I think, Okay, the craziest thing, and then
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  Speaker 3: we'll move on the craziest thing that I've done. I
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  Speaker 3: met a guy on a dating app, talked to him
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  Speaker 3: for like a week, and then didn't want to do
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  Speaker 3: a drive to a wedding that was like so far away.
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  Speaker 3: So I just asked him if he wanted to come
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  Speaker 3: with me, and he did, so, Yeah, okay, you gotta
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  Speaker 3: be down for the rid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I did break up with a girl once. This
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  Speaker 1: is the opposite end of the equation because the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: were playing the Jets on Monday Night Football and it
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  Speaker 1: was the day of our anniversary and I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to do anything. So yeah, that was That was a
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  Speaker 1: Let's just start with the obvious, the quarterbacks. Lefty v
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  Speaker 1: Lefty In Atlanta, Michael Pennix has not yet been cleared
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  Speaker 1: for eleven on eleven's Tua has been getting first team reps.
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  Speaker 1: He's the new guy, but in some ways they're both new.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's the new head coach. They've got a new
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  Speaker 1: system to learn. I still feel like Pennix has a
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  Speaker 1: higher ceiling than Tua because of his arm strength. But
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  Speaker 1: who do we want to see win this battle? If
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  Speaker 1: you are like me and you've got a futures ticket
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: pot in the sky for Super Bowl, but I will
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: probably end up taking them to win the division at
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  Speaker 1: some point, who would you want to see as the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback odds? Right now? Point towards two A minus one
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  Speaker 1: seventy five and Michael Pennix at plus one forty Kendra,
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  Speaker 1: where do you land on the leftyv Lefty battle?
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  Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I would love a success story
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  Speaker 3: for Michael Pennox, but I just don't see that in
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  Speaker 3: the cards. I think from a if you're a Falcons
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  Speaker 3: fan and from an entertainment perspective, you're probably cheering for
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  Speaker 3: two a year, and that's kind of who I would
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  Speaker 3: like to see, just because I think it makes them
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  Speaker 3: more competitive. I think it makes them more fun, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that it is better for this podcast. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I would like to see to us. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: Michael Pennix, I just don't know how you have so
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  Speaker 3: many ACL surgeries and come back from that like you
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  Speaker 3: have no ACL left. How are you even going to
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  Speaker 3: be manageable? I don't care if you have the best
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  Speaker 3: doctors in the world. That is just something that I
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  Speaker 3: fear you cannot ever be the same From.
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  Speaker 1: Well my count, it's three by the way, three torn ACL.
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  Speaker 3: Do you want the same leg correct? Like obviously I
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  Speaker 3: think yeah. I think two of them are on his left.
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  Speaker 2: Me, Well, how else you gonna have three torn acls.
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  Speaker 3: Well you could tear the same one three times.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I guess, uh, I think, I'm yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be two a starting week one. I
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  Speaker 2: mean he's got the leg up as far as no
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  Speaker 2: pun intended, and got the leg up right now running
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  Speaker 2: the offense with Penics not fully healthy, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: Stefanski's talked a lot about how accuracy is paramount in
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  Speaker 2: his offenses, and that's where I think Tua has an edge.
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  Speaker 2: She's very accurate when you know he makes that first
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  Speaker 2: read and Penick struggles in that department. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be Tua to start. Now, who would
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  Speaker 2: I want? Like you mentioned, I do think I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty simple handicapper from determining how you would
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  Speaker 2: approach this, there's like depending on what you bet on.
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  Speaker 2: I think, for like your Super Bowl future, you would
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  Speaker 2: want Penix. Now that doesn't mean it has to be
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  Speaker 2: Panis right away, but the chances that either one of
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  Speaker 2: these quarterbacks stays healthy all years, probably.
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  Speaker 1: If I could bet both will start games, that bet
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  Speaker 1: of the year on thee.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that the team has a higher ceiling
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  Speaker 2: with Panix and a higher floor with Tua, So like
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  Speaker 2: I don't if Penis. We know what Tua is now,
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  Speaker 2: and you know Penis has his flaws, but he also
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  Speaker 2: has only started what twelve games I believe in his career,
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  Speaker 2: so he hasn't even started a full season's worth of
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  Speaker 2: games yet. So there's still some unlocked potential and just
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  Speaker 2: some higher variants because we just haven't seen he's younger
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  Speaker 2: and we just haven't seen him grow into what he
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  Speaker 2: potentially could be. So if you're looking for like your
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl future, I think you would eventually need Penix
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  Speaker 2: to take over and take that next step. If you're
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  Speaker 2: just looking to, you know, potentially win the division because
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  Speaker 2: the division is so wide open. If you're looking to
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  Speaker 2: just get to like that eight to ten win range
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  Speaker 2: and you know, have a pretty high floor where you're
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  Speaker 2: going to be in most games, then I think you
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  Speaker 2: want Tua. So I think it just depends on what
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  Speaker 2: lens you're trying to look through for that. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think I do think too will start Week one?
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  Speaker 3: Who do we think the team wants to start?
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  Speaker 2: I think they want I mean depends on how you're
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  Speaker 2: who you're asking. Like about two, I think I think
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  Speaker 2: the staff wants toua just because he's been running the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's healthy, he's gonna have the edge there and
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  Speaker 2: then he's more accurate as of right now. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what they value in the offense at least
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  Speaker 2: to get things started. And then like the good thing
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  Speaker 2: is is that you can you can you have a
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  Speaker 2: backup plan now, so that that's that that's how you
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  Speaker 2: think you can keep everyone happy by framing it like that, right,
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  Speaker 2: you can frame it that, oh, well, t was healthy,
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  Speaker 2: Panics is still recovering. So two is going to start
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  Speaker 2: and if it goes well, great, it goes well. If
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't, then at some point you're even like six seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight weeks into the season, you're never You're probably never
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  Speaker 2: gonna be out of this division. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 2: last year they almost they were this division should be
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  Speaker 2: a race until the end. So you can then pull
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  Speaker 2: the trigger and say let's go to Panics because it
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  Speaker 2: isn't going well. So I think that the staff wants
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  Speaker 2: to at a start, but I don't think that they'll
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  Speaker 2: be shy about moving on to Panics if it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: go well.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem with with marrying yourself to two is
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to have a game where he throws
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  Speaker 1: four picks and then what do you do? How knee
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  Speaker 1: jerk are you going to be with his bad games?
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  Speaker 1: And it feels like, just with the way that they're
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  Speaker 1: set up, the answer is very Penix was three and
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  Speaker 1: six last year in the nine games that he did play.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on to the nerd off in Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza flourishes in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: If he does and he flourishes in the preseason, could
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  Speaker 1: he start Week one? They seem pretty dead set on
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  Speaker 1: their plan, but Tom Brady is at least in charge
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  Speaker 1: to some degree. They've got a new head coach. The
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  Speaker 1: timeline does not indicate that they need to rush Mendoza
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  Speaker 1: out there. I'm I think I'm on the more bullish
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  Speaker 1: side of I could see Kirk Cousins starting the entire season,
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  Speaker 1: and that does not seem to be the consensus opinion
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  Speaker 1: out there. Kendrick, where do you think is there a
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  Speaker 1: natural point in the year where we see Mendoza come
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  Speaker 1: in or does he just start right away?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna start right away. Tom Brady
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  Speaker 3: sat he's been talking about how he would prefer if
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  Speaker 3: he's sat the entire time. I don't think that they're
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  Speaker 3: going to go against whatever Tom Brady has to say,
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  Speaker 3: just because how can you. I think probably what's gonna
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  Speaker 3: happen is they're going to start their season first, you know,
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  Speaker 3: eight nine weeks, like shit. There's gonna be a lot
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  Speaker 3: of pressure, not just from players on the team who
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  Speaker 3: want to win and don't want to waste their season,
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  Speaker 3: probably wanting to put Mendoza in there, let alone from
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  Speaker 3: the fans and you know whoever, the staff winds up splitting.
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  Speaker 3: I could see him probably halfway through the season coming
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  Speaker 3: in and them just trying to keep their head above water.
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  Speaker 1: Austin's was pretty good last year, and it's not like
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders don't have talent around him. This is one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why I think they could end up
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  Speaker 1: sticking with Cousins is because he could look good in
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  Speaker 1: this offense. Rock Bowers is a star. Ashton gent should
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  Speaker 1: be a lot better than he was in his rookie season.
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  Speaker 1: They have pieces, they have a decent offensive line. He
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  Speaker 1: might actually look good. I mean he was. He was
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  Speaker 1: better than Penix was for the Falcons last year. So
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  Speaker 1: who's to say that he's gonna play so horribly that
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  Speaker 1: they feel like we're talking about knee jerk reactions where
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: they would have to move off of Kirk Cousins and
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: not stick to their plans. Old, yeah, off.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yet I think he's gonna be Cousins is the star,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and I mean that there's our reason that they signed him,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and he effectively has what a one year, twenty million
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: dollar deal, So I think that's and this is I
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: think I liked what the Raiders did in the draft,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: but this is a team that's still at least a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: year or two away, especially when you're in that division
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: with the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Broncos. So I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: think that they're going into this season saying, let's try
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and win the Super Bowl. So I think they want
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: to just their focuses on bringing Mendoza along, and you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I think they want him to develop more under Cousins.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: So I think the way that they're going to approach
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: this is, Look, if if it goes really well with
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Cousins and for whatever reason, it's the NFL, you know,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: you never know, then yeah, I could see him starting
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: for a good chunk of the season and then if
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: he leads them to the playoffs, and then Mendoz is
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: going to start next year. But I think that the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Raiders are looking Mendoza is going to be quarterback in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the future. We're going to keep building out the roster
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and there's probably a good chance that at some point
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: this season they're going to be out of the race,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: and then I think that's when you move on to Mendoza.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: And looking at the start of their schedule, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of times it always makes sense to I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: shouldn't say always, but many times it makes sense to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: do these things at the buy. Now they have a
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: late buy I believe, like late thirteen, so, but they
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: have a tough schedule. You know, the first seven weeks
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they're at the Chargers, at the Saints, Chiefs, at the Pats,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Bills Rams, So you know, if they're one in six,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: then it makes that it's like, Okay, let's see what
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we got with Mendoza. Let's get them some some game action.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter. But I think Cousins will at
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: least start the year.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Mendoza's touchdown prop right now on DraftKings plus one fifty
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: for fifteen plus touchdowns that would suggest that the books
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: expect him to play at some point.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that seems high because I am in the
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: camp that they're going to wait as long as possible
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: on him, and that number feels crazy to me.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I agree. It is a one way market, so it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: not like you can bet the no on that. On
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the age front, though, Kendro, it's crazy, and I know
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that you're I think you're a little more down on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the hype of the La Rams, so this could fit
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in line with that. You called Kirk Cousins old. Matt
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Stafford is a year older than Kirk Cousins, and it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that because Kirk Cousins carries himself like
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a grandpa. He is actually younger than our reigning MVP.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very you guys know. I want to love
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the Rams. I just don't this season. I think Matt
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Stafford's finally too old. I think last year was their window.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I don't care who they add. The drama going on
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: with Pokin who DeVante Adams also old. I just don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: know how they're going to get all of these pieces
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: to fit so perfectly in such a difficult division. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: know that they're the favorites right now. People expect Matt
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Stafford to go out there and be as good as
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: he was last year. I just with another season under
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: his belt, another season on his body, and the back
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: issues that we know he continues to have. I don't
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: know in the division that they play in, how long
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: he can go out there and be a forty year
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: old man in the NFL.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Well, good thing they drafted a quarterback.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, did did they vot? Did they vote?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Did they? Well?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: The Raiders also like the Kirk Cousins touchdown prop they there,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Their wide receiver room is a little lacking.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: It was a it was the that was a Mendoza
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: prop that was not Kirk Cousins.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Well we regardless, I'm saying the their wide receiver room
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: is still leads a lot to be desired.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, hours Uh, well, I'm not sure that anyone actually
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: gives a shit about this. We'll talk about it anyway.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals and what's going on with Jacoby Brissett
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and a stalemate right now with Arizona significantly far apart
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: in negotiations for a new contract. This is the same
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: dude that went one and eleven last year as the starter.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what kind of leverage he has. Gardner
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Minshew is also on the roster, and Carson Beck, who
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: is seven to one to be the day one starter
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. We don't have to spend much
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: time on this, stucky, but who do you think starts
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: day one for Arizona?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I don't I think they ultimately get some kind of
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: deal done with Persette. But I mean, look, the Cardinals
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: are in complete rebuilt mode and they're not going to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: compete for anything real this year, especially in that division.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: So could I see them, you know, maybe there's a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: quarterback who gets hurt and they end up trading Bersette,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: or they just can't come to an agreement. Could I
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: see them just saying, like, because it's not like Carson
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Beck is a top five pick right where you invested
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: this huge amount of draft resources and you want to
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: you know, he's your franchise quarterback. Let's bring him along slowly. He's,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you know, very experienced college quarterback. I don't know, I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: think it might be worth a flyer on back because
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I could just see them saying, let's just see what
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: we got. There's also a world where they go it
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: like if they think that they're not going to come
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: to an agreement with Bersette and I'm not, I fully
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: admit I'm not. I'm not completely up to speed on everything,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and I don't have any knowledge on what's going on
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in the back end there. But is there a world
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: where they go into the season with you know, Minshew
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: is the veteran Beck and and then they get Soresby
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in the supplemental draft and then he's obviously I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: think it'll be able to start right away, So you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: throw Beck in there and you say, Okay, let's just
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: see what we got, just see what he looks like.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: And then you know, if Sowarsby's like suspended the first
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: six weeks, then later in the year you throw in
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't go well, which probably won't, you throw
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: on Sowarsby and see what you got. And now you
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: have two young quarterbacks and you hope that one hits
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and then you'll have your quarterback of the future as
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you continue to rebuild as you're because the Cardinals should
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: have a lens of Okay, let's look three years into
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the future, right, and then the goal three years into
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the future when the division might not be as difficult
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and there's more turnover with some of the other teams
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in their division. The goal should be, let's have a
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie contract that we have two to
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: three years from now, that we feel comfortable with that
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: we can then build the team around to compete. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: why not go into the year with a Soresby and
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a back you didn't waste a first round pick on either?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Throw them in. See what you got.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: My comments?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Actually, why somebody's gonna end up blowing a pick on
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby for that exact reason. It'll either be the
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Cardinals or the Dolphins.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: My comment was gonna be, is there truly that big
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: of a drop off between Jacoby and Gardner? I'm gonna
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: say no.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette, their offensive coordinator I think is now the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: OC in Detroit if I have my moving pieces correct,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So then they must have done something pedzing. Yeah, they
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: must have done something that the NFL was fond of,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and Brissette was the guy leading that charge. They were
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: really bad overall, but Brisette wasn't necessarily the problem. I mean,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think he has much leverage, so I don't
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: know what's going on here with that. But I think
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: there's a drop off. I think Brissette is better than
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: how many times have we seen Mention.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's just not that big of a drop off, is
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think you would like Gligo Minshew, like, just
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: go to back if you're not.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Going to agree with that. Seven to one, By the way,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: not terrible if you wanted to bet that the Minnesota
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: quarterback battle seems to be settled. This is Kyler's job
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: unless he gets hurt. JJ McCarthy could not have been
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: less professional in his response when asked about the relationship
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. He said, it's like two kids sitting
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: in class at the opposite end of the classroom. Kendra
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: big talent gap here. I'm excited to see what Kyler
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: can do in this offense, and I think they're done
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: with JJ already.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I was very much in the camp that I did
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: not give a singular shit about Kyler Murray or JJ McCarthy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: But JJ McCarthy has had me re enter the chat.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I am now cheering actively for his downfall and for
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray just because, like I get, the kid is
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: young and he probably doesn't have as much media training.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: But to be honest, how do you, just as a
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: cogniz human, not understand that you cannot say those things?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Like I understand you do not have the same amount
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: of media training as Kyler Murray. And you are probably
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: hurt and your feelings are hurt, your butt hurt, your
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: ass hurts from the banking that you're getting whatever, But
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: you have to be an adult in the room, especially
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. He knows better. He played it
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: a big school. He knows better than to say those things.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And now because of how much of a child he
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: acted like, it feels like he's lost the fan base,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: he's lost the locker room, he's lost the respect of
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the media. And I don't want to pile on the kid,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: but you have to know better, and to go out
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: there and say something like that is just absurd. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I am now rooting for Kyler Murray when I quite
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: literally did not give a crap how his career went
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: like two months ago.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Seems like a pretty big upgrade going from JJ McCarthy
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: what we saw last year nine. Even if you can't
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: complete passes with Justin Jefferson, yeah, can't form chemistry with him,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you could do that. I think Kyler's gonna have a
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: phenomenal year. Starf Ucky. Is there the football X and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: O side of you. Are you geeking out over the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: idea of a talent like Kyler when he's on the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: field playing in a KOC offense.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have to be. I think you
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: have to be a lot more optimistic as a Vikings
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: fan than you were lest year. We've seen what O'Connell
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: has done with inferior quarterback play and just a hodgepodge
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of who's like just random backups that he's had success with.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and if you look if their offensive, like
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: if their tackles are healthy, you could argue they have
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: one of the best, if not the best wide receiver
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: duo in there are a treo, I should say, in
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the NFL. So there's weapons there, and you know Murray
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: gives them a much higher floor and ceiling. And I agree,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I think this this is they're saying that it's a competition,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: but this is Murray's job. There's like he went to
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and they were recording him early and then he
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: was supposed to go meet with the Steelers and never
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: even met with the Steelers and then signed with the Vikings.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: And a guy like Murray where he's at in his career,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: for him not to go meet with other teams after that,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think essentially tells us that he was he was
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: told it's his job, so yeah, he's the and McCarthy
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: is just we know what McCarthy is, so you have
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to go with You have to go with Murray to
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: start this thing. And I think basically they told him
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it's your job and that's why that deal was done
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: so early and he didn't go meet with the Steelers
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: or any other teams. So yeah, I think this that's
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: we're gonna see Caylumurry week one.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Does Bros make the roster?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Probably not fuck pact to squad Taxi cab Taxi squad.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: By the way, I come in peace on this episode.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Even though production wrote in a suggestion that we talk
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: about Malik Willis and the Dolphins, I am exing that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: out because we already know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: You just had to continue your streak about talking about
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins and then move on.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just mentioning I'm keeping the streak alive by mentioning
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that I'm not talking about them. By talking about them,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes. We
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: are going to get daily updates on his health. Some
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: beat reporter will be assigned to camp outside of his home.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Most likely, he hopes to play in the preseason. He's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the odds on favorite to win Comeback Player of the
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Year plus two hundred, even though he played fourteen games
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: last year for the Chiefs. I'm not sure he should
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be eligible for that. He is a heavy favorite to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback at the start of the season
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. They do justin fields, by
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the way, But any pessimism Kendra going into the season
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: as far as Mahomes goes the injury, or is it
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: just wheels up for Kansas City on the bounce back.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I just feel like we're in the same spot we
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: always are. Until Patrick Mahomes shows me that he is
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: off his game at all, I'm going to continue to
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: believe that he is the second coming of Jesus Christ,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: because that's who I know him to be. I just
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: worry that. I mean, and they did retool, so I'm
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: just as scared of them as I have ever been.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: And I until that is shown otherwise to me, I
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: will stay in that camp.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the market definitely still backing the Kansas City chief Stucky.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Any hesitancy on Kansas City and what Mahomes can be
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: to start the season.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, that definitely hesitancy. We'll be monitoring and we'll
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: see when he's fully healthy and he's you know, another
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: year older. But I have more concerns about the rest
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: of the roster than Mahomes. So that's that's a conversation
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: for another day. But there's there's other problems that the
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Chiefs have than Mahomes.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But if you get him back, we're the favorites.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Back to form that that'll mask a lot of issues.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: They're plus one sixty to win the division and this
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: is a loaded division too. Denver's good and got better
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: in the offseason. I think Denver's at least good. They're
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: not as good as they were last year. They're not
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be the one seed again, but that's a good
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: football team. They've got an elite defense, a decent quarterback.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: They upgraded in terms of weaponry them.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I don't believe in I don't believe in the Chargers either.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Denver showed us that they can compete last year. They've
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: got an elite coach too, and Sean Payton that should
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: be mentioned talking about elite coaching, Jim Harball with the
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: LA Chargers and a loaded roster there, and both are
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: sitting behind the Kansas City Chiefs in terms of the
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: AFC West odds. And we don't even know for sure
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that Mahomes is going to start at the beginning of
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the season. It just seems a little rich if you
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: wanted to get and Travis Kelcey, who still should be
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: there a one tier one weapon, looked awful last year.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to get stuck in the on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: page the back page of the New York Post here,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like he's done a ton this
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: offseason in regards to the football field, So I.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Don't think that they have, though. I think that they
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: just paid him so that they could continue to profit
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: off of Taylor Swift. I gotta be honest. I don't
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: think he's going to be a key piece of this offense.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I think that he knows that. I think they know
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that his beer belly is growing by the day with
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: all the wedding shenanigans. I don't think that they expect
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: anything from him other than jersey sales from mister swift.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: A bottom line is I tend to agree with that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I think before you can place a bet on a division,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you have to decide who you're not going to bet on.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Kansas City is not a bet that I would be
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: willing to place right now. Head to Indy, Daniel Jones,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonard, who are they going to start
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. Jones was cleared to
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: participate in seven on seven drills for the club's mandatory
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: mini camp, but not a ton of confidence that he's
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: going to be ready to start the season. This is
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a very weird situation for how hot Indy was at
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the start of last year. Kendra, how do we feel
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty six as it pertains to the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: quarterback situation with the Indianapolis Cults.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I love that the Indianapolis Cults are in the AFC South,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Thank you give me. The streak will continue in Jacksonville.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I think that they're going to make Riley Leonard and
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson battle it out in camp, and whoever looks
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: less like shit, it's probably going to start until Daniel
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Jones comes back. I just don't think we're ever going
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: to see the version of Daniel Jones that we saw
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: last season. I think the Sauce Gardner train was trade
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: was all for nothing now and thank you, I will
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: gladly take that money. See AFC South one less competition.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It does feel like they're kind of falling behind even
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the I'm seeing the Titans catch a little bit of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: hype in the off season with you head coach and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Robert Salad another year of maturity for camp Ward. The
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Texans are loaded and the Jaguars are as well.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Alexansas schedule gods fucked us by making a divisional game
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: in London against the Texans. I will never forgive you losers.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I hate you guys.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: If we're cashing tickets on me mentioning the Dolphins, we
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: gotta cash some tickets on Kendra mentioning.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I never mentioned them, I never.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, no no, I'm talking about your hatred for.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Games.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate Alec Pierce is another one that he
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: might not be ready for the start of training camp
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: as well. We don't talk a lot about the Indianapolis cult, Stucky,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: but is this a team that you are concerned about
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in terms of repeating what they were able to do
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: at the start of last season.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not not too high on the Colts. That's why
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: if we get I mean Daniels going to started to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: show cracks of turning back into Pumpkin before he got hurt.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Let's not forget that. If it's Riley Leonard starting, it'd
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: be the tenth different quarterback starting in Week one for
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the Colts over the past ten years, which is pretty crazy.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Let's end the quarterback discussion with perhaps what could be
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: for some the most captivating. Are the Browns really gonna
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: go with Deshaun Watson over Shador Sanders. The talk amongst
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland media is this is a hot topic on
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: on Monday in Cleveland Sports Talk Radio was that Shador
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Sanders could be a trade candidate. I don't know who
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: would invite this circus onto their team after seeing the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: commotion created in Cleveland. Maybe maybe Arizona. Maybe Arizona starts
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Shadoor week one. If you aren't gonna start Shador Sanders,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it's kind of it kind of goes back to the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Tim Tebow discussion from years ago. If you're not gonna
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: be serious about him, being your guy? Why bring him in?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: And that will always hold Shadoor Sanders back fair or not.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, though the last time we saw him play
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: was terrible twenty twenty four. His quarterback grating was seventy nine,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and that would put him in range with old man
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers last year and Davis Mills. He was not good, Stucky.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Where do you think we end up landing on who
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: starts the year for the Browns? What direction do they go?
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It's not like they expect to be all that competitive
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: in the North.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I honestly have no idea. I mean I've had a
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: guess right now, I think it would be Watson. I mean,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: he hasn't played in over six hundred days though, I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: just I don't think Sanders is the guy. And then
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: with Watson, you know they're going to move on from
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: him after this year due to the contract. So and
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: this is not the Browns are focused on two years
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: three years from now. I'd like what they've done in
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: the draft the past two years. They're just trying to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: recover from the disastrous Watson contract. And so I think
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that the way that they're looking at this is I
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: mean made with Watson. I think you probably have a
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: higher ceiling, like just the things are going to go
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: right and somehow he gets back to the quarterback that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: he once was. But most likely it's gonna end poorly
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: no matter which quarterback is under center for the Browns
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: this year, and they don't they're fine with that. They're
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: look probably want to get their quarterback in next year's draft.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: So maybe, but maybe there's a chance that with Watson
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: he gets back to some of his old form and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: then you're able to get something for him.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Are they so candidates?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It's it's now it sounds like they're not interested in Soresby,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and I mean Bunkin came out and said they're not
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: gonna bid on him. But you never know what the Browns.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: So I maybe.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Watson starts out hot and then someone gets hurt and
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you're able to trade them. But then the other you
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: also could I could see the argument for like, all right,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: well let's we have better weapons now, the offensive line
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: would be better shape. Let's just might as well see what
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Sanders has after another year. So I don't know, it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the Browns. Who knows.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I'm high on the Browns. You guys know this I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: think that the Browns might be kind of nice.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Somebody's got to play.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Your loan that you did the Broncos, the Chargers stink,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the Rams stink. But you like you're in on the Browns.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: You're setting up for a year of disaster. Kendra, I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: We're gonna see what our psychic has to say about that.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Boys we will be talking to about the Panthers last year.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, this is true.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: You did say that about words.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I do. Look, you've got plenty of time to change
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: your opinion on this, so or we're not gonna hold you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Already logs the Browns in the app. It's sentenced down.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that it's a good bet. Comes September, Okay.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You have a few. You're on the fucking Falcons, krabbit.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I hated that. The mean that, I I mean, I'm
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: still gonna I was gonna stand by it. It's a
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: seventy five to one long shot. But then immediately after that,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: James Pierce got arrested. That was not in the plan.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Talk about a quarterback controversy with a ticket in your pocket.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I made that bet, and then the team signed Tua
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and James Pierce was arrested this This was not in
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the plan.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: But anyway, Kender being all in on Deshaun Watson was
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: not on my bingo card.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I would think he would be on your on your
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: no touch list.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: He is on my no touch list, but I'm praying
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: that it should or.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: No one's on his no touch list.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: God damn it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: All right, We'll save the rest of these updates for
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: our Thursday episode. A reminder that if you want to
• 40:49
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• 40:52
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• 40:58
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• 40:59
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• 41:02
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• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Back Player of the Year, let's do that. Our plant
• 41:08
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• 41:12
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• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Might and shut up. I'm trying to plant my flag here.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're really planning your flag in that thing. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: talked about this earlier. At the top of the Odds
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: board for Comeback Player of the Year is none other
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes at plus two hundred. He's followed by
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels at plus four fifty, Kyler Murray at six
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: to one, and Micah Parsons at ten to one. I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: think there's about fifteen good options that you can make
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: a case for with comeback Player of the Year. We've
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: talked about a number of these guys already. The NFL
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: has made it clear that they don't want this award
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to be, Hey, you sucked last year or in previous
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: seasons and you don't suck anymore. They wanted to be
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you were injured and then you came back and had
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a great year. Christian McCaffrey is the winner of this
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: award in twenty twenty five. He played four games in
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four and was phenomenal last year. So just
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: to sit the baseline there, Kendra, where will you be
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: placing your dollars over on DraftKings as it pertains to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: come back Player of the Year quickly?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: I have two complaints about this. I also don't think
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: that Patrick Mahomes should be eligible to win this. But
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: since we're here and I want to complain, I'm gonna
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: say that Rookie of the Year, if you get hurt
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: in the preseason, it should be the same as the NBA,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: where you should be eligible to win Rookie of the
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Year the next year if you don't play a certain
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: percentage of games. I just needed to say that. However,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: if I'm looking at this today, there are kind of
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: three options. Unfortunately, I do think that it will probably
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: wind up being Patrick Mahomes because they're going to allow
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: this and the media just eats it up and is
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: going to create the perfect just Taylor Swift scenario, come back,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: love story, write a song, whatever. If I'm looking at
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: this right now, Kyler Murray good option for me. Micah
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Parson's good option for me. And then I'm also gonna say,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: further down the board, I'm looking at brock Bauers if
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: we think that Kirk Cousins can keep that team semi
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: afloat more so as like I'm going to buy it now,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: sell it later type of ticket. But if I'm puching
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: it in, I'm gonna go Micah Parsons because if he
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I get that, he might not be one hundred percent
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: week one, but if he can eat down in that
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: division of all divisions, I think that that's going to
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: give him some major hype.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned about him not being available for the first
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: month plus of the season and all these other guys
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: getting a bit of a head start. I'm surprised you
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: didn't go with the Travis Hunter twenty five to one.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I just don't think that there's gonna be a enough
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: like you at that position. You're going to have to
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: really ball out to get some serious looks.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got some serious competition on the board here, Stucky.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Where would you place your wager?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know. NFL comeback player is not really my
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: cup of tea, but if I had to, I would
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: go Kyler Murray. We talked about what O'Connell has done
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: with way less talented quarterbacks than Mary and I'm starting
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to come around on the Vikings and that division. That
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: division is like, I think the Bears could be in
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: for a bit of a decline. The line still a
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: lot of holes, and the Packers, I'm I am just
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: getting lower and lower in the Packers for each passing day.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Last year was their year. Unfortunately they had all the injuries.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've los Parsons, you lose Craft, a couple
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: other key pieces. It's hard to overcome that. But now
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the offensive line is very, very concerning the Parsons injury.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to get lower them, so I think there's
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: opportunities in that division. It's also it's interesting that I
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: was looking at the NFL Coach of the Year and
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you basically need Like the formula is pretty set, everyone
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: knows it. Like if you look back at the NFL
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Coach of the Years over the past decade plus, you
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: basically need to win. I think the only coach that
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: didn't win double digit games was Brian Dable when he
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: won it with the Giants, and but they went nine
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to seven in one. Like the formulas basically like win
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: double digit games when you weren't expected to. So like
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: your win total is you know, that's a good proxy,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: maybe eight and a half or less. Two of the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: names that jump out the most are like that. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: could see it happening with r O'Connell and Stefanski who
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: have won what three of the past five, because their
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: win totals are like seven a half to eight and
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: a half range. And then I could see in their
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: division them winning ten to eleven games and getting looks again.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: But I would look Kylo Marray. I think he's gonna
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: just everything that's around him from the staff, to the weapons,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to the potential of that healthy offensive line, and then
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the fact that I think that the other teams in
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: that division might be a little bit more vulnerable than
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: many might believe. I think you gotta look at.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Mary might be a vikingssts.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I think we might be a Vikings podcast by goal. Yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: should we start the row that the Norwegians are doing
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: because we know they're gonna steal that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Melik Neighbors sixteen to one, he
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: only played four games in twenty twenty five, sensational talent
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: as a chance to be a part of a Giants team.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: That see, are we also a Giants podcast now? Because
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: you guys, you guys know that I'm.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: On the Giants just then that I'm willing to make
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's because I just recently finally
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: got my hands on my fantasy football magazine for the summer.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I'm getting all high on Milik Neighbors.
• 46:39
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• 46:55
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