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- 1:10Speaker 3: This is a.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Podcast called 25 Whistles.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Talking football and they all.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Wear a whistle.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect?
- 1:20Speaker 5: It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.
- 1:23Speaker 3: 25 Whistles.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Yeah, turn it down.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Keep it up. Turn it down.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Kevin, turn it down. Dang, Kevin.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Jeez, man. He's rocking.
- 1:41Speaker 1: And now his microphone's not even on. He's talking and
- 1:42Speaker 1: nobody hears him. Turn your mic on.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Turn your mic on. Kevin. Kevin, your microphone.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Kevin.
- 1:52Speaker 3: I'm watching him push every button. It's on the left. No,
- 1:56Speaker 3: we don't hear you, dude.
- 1:58Speaker 1: So we're doing the show. We have to fly out
- 2:01Speaker 1: and go to iHeartRadio Music Festival. So we're doing this
- 2:03Speaker 1: mostly from my house, but Kevin's running it from the studio.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And obviously he doesn't know how to run the buttons
- 2:07Speaker 1: because we had high volume.
- 2:09Speaker 3: Kevin? No.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Abby's now jumping on the board to help him turn
- 2:14Speaker 1: his microphone on.
- 2:15Speaker 3: You know what's scary is he's just pounding all kinds
- 2:17Speaker 3: of buttons. Like who knows what he's hitting now.
- 2:19Speaker 6: What about now?
- 2:20Speaker 3: There we go.
- 2:21Speaker 7: There he is.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Wow, Abby had to do it.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Good job, Kevin. All right, guys.
- 2:26Speaker 3: What's up?
- 2:27Speaker 1: Hey, is Miley Cyrus not doing the halftime show?
- 2:30Speaker 3: Oh, that was just a rumor, right? Like we heard.
- 2:33Speaker 1: So it wasn't confirmed, but it's not been eliminated.
- 2:37Speaker 3: I think that's where we're at.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Was it somebody saying they had inside information or was
- 2:40Speaker 1: it somebody lying about it?
- 2:43Speaker 3: Do we know?
- 2:43Speaker 1: I think she'd be.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Perfect for it.
- 2:46Speaker 6: I just thought it was a rumor.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I second that. I was just looking at
- 2:49Speaker 1: a list here where they were picking people to do
- 2:52Speaker 1: the halftime show and Miley Cyrus was not number one.
- 2:56Speaker 1: It was Justin Bieber. I don't have a problem with
- 2:57Speaker 1: that either.
- 2:57Speaker 3: No, Bieber would be cool.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Bieber would be cool. I think I kind of want
- 3:02Speaker 1: Miley to do it. I was kind of already in
- 3:03Speaker 1: the mindset for Miley.
- 3:04Speaker 3: To do it. If you could have anyone, though, any
- 3:07Speaker 3: one of your favorite bands. Counting Crows. Weezer. Dude, can
- 3:10Speaker 3: you imagine Counting Crows got there? Like, America would just
- 3:13Speaker 3: trash that. Hey, I'm Adam.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Hey.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Around here. Dude, I would love it. I think it
- 3:20Speaker 3: would be awesome.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be Miley Cyrus at this point.
- 3:23Speaker 1: But Bieber would be cool. Dua Lipa would be pretty good,
- 3:27Speaker 1: but she's not American.
- 3:28Speaker 3: So? Bad Bunny just did it?
- 3:31Speaker 1: Bad Bunny's American, Eddie. Well, Puerto Rican. It's a territory.
- 3:35Speaker 3: No, it's American. He is American.
- 3:36Speaker 1: See, that, hey.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait. Before you would tell me.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Hey. That's Latino on Latino crime.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I know, I know.
- 3:42Speaker 7: Wow.
- 3:43Speaker 3: But we've had the who before. We've had you two.
- 3:45Speaker 3: They're not American.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Now, that would have been the point I would have
- 3:48Speaker 1: hoped you had made to begin with.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Delete that other part. Not the bad part.
- 3:53Speaker 1: But I like Dua Lipa. I think Olivia Rodrigo would
- 3:55Speaker 1: be interesting. Does she have enough songs? No, probably not.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Not songs over like a 25-year period. I mean, Miley
- 4:02Speaker 1: Cyrus kind of does, even though she's not old.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 4:05Speaker 1: But I think Miley would be cool. I think Bieber
- 4:06Speaker 1: would be cool. You know what would be awesome?
- 4:08Speaker 3: A 90s mashup. They did that with Snoop. No, no,
- 4:12Speaker 3: like alternative 90s.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Man, that'd be sad, though, because they don't look good.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Because they're older.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they live the rock and roll lifestyle. Like Everclear,
- 4:23Speaker 1: Sugar Ray. All the people I bought cameos for you.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Yes, all those people.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I still vote for Miley. I'm okay with Bieber. I'd
- 4:33Speaker 1: like Bieber. But I feel like Bieber just did the
- 4:36Speaker 1: Coachella long form. Here, watch me for an hour by myself.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Here's the spectacle.
- 4:42Speaker 1: I guess maybe that's why I'm not as excited about
- 4:44Speaker 1: Bieber because I just really enjoyed that full like hour
- 4:47Speaker 1: and a half set he did there.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Man, I saw the coolest Bieber video on TikTok. I
- 4:51Speaker 3: think it was yesterday. Last night, I saw it. This
- 4:53Speaker 3: guy was just walking like through an alleyway in the
- 4:56Speaker 3: coffee shop. and Bieber was on his laptop on a
- 4:59Speaker 3: conference call, and he's talking to the guy like, hey, man, look,
- 5:02Speaker 3: if we're going to just do it, let's just do it.
- 5:03Speaker 3: And the guy walks by and fist bumps Bieber, and
- 5:05Speaker 3: Bieber's like, what's up?
- 5:06Speaker 1: Bieber's just doing a Zoom?
- 5:07Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, a Zoom at a coffee shop alone at
- 5:10Speaker 3: a table. It was so cool. I wouldn't have thought
- 5:13Speaker 3: it was Bieber.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I would have thought it was a trick, or if
- 5:15Speaker 1: it was Bieber, there were cameras around, and it was
- 5:17Speaker 1: for some.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Sort of show. No, there was no one, and then
- 5:20Speaker 3: Bieber was so cool about it, he just gave him
- 5:21Speaker 3: the fist bump back, and he's like, what's up, dude?
- 5:24Speaker 1: The big story... And we'll talk about football later, but
- 5:26Speaker 1: the big story at University of Arkansas right now, and
- 5:29Speaker 1: I put a Twitter message up about it last night.
- 5:32Speaker 1: So we got rocked by Utah, right? And so there's
- 5:35Speaker 1: been a video come out of this kid who, adult,
- 5:37Speaker 1: young adult, who's like head of marketing, I think maybe
- 5:40Speaker 1: softball and volleyball or something at the University of Arkansas.
- 5:42Speaker 1: He's been there a year. But he went to college
- 5:45Speaker 1: at Utah. I think he's from Utah. But he went
- 5:49Speaker 1: and did all his undergrad at Utah. And In the
- 5:52Speaker 1: video that someone posted, it's him wearing, I believe, a
- 5:54Speaker 1: Razorback shirt and a Utah hat, and he's doing the
- 5:56Speaker 1: U thing, just being funny. And so now all these
- 5:59Speaker 1: Arkansas fans are going hard at him, demanding he be fired.
- 6:03Speaker 1: You can't do this. You're a loser. And the video
- 6:08Speaker 1: I made was, hey, you guys are not mad at him.
- 6:10Speaker 1: You're mad at our athletic director. You're mad because we're losing.
- 6:14Speaker 1: And you're taking it out on this guy. Now, was
- 6:17Speaker 1: it the best move of him? Probably not.
- 6:20Speaker 3: But.
- 6:21Speaker 1: his life has got to be miserable right now. Because
- 6:23Speaker 1: Arkansas Twitter has just been killing this dude. And just
- 6:27Speaker 1: to see some of the responses when I put the
- 6:29Speaker 1: video up, because there's no need to get this kid fired.
- 6:31Speaker 1: If he actually went to Utah, not the best move
- 6:34Speaker 1: to make a video. He didn't post it.
- 6:36Speaker 3: I think like his fiance or somebody posted it too. Oh, no,
- 6:38Speaker 3: even worse. Yeah.
- 6:39Speaker 1: And so not the best move, but also it's not
- 6:43Speaker 1: that serious. And if he's really a Utah person, there
- 6:46Speaker 1: are people that have jobs, literal jobs at other schools
- 6:49Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're diehard fans. So it's like, leave him alone.
- 6:51Speaker 1: He won't do this again. Learning lesson. You're not mad
- 6:54Speaker 1: at him. You're mad because we're terrible. That's what you're
- 6:58Speaker 1: mad at.
- 6:59Speaker 3: I've never been like, you know, been trashed that hard
- 7:03Speaker 3: on social media or whatever. But I'm wondering like, like
- 7:06Speaker 3: the Coldplay couple. Like, I wonder if you can shut
- 7:09Speaker 3: everything off, not look at your phone and ignore all
- 7:15Speaker 3: that and it works. Or does it just come at
- 7:17Speaker 3: you a different way? Like, does a friend be like, dude,
- 7:19Speaker 3: they're roasting you?
- 7:20Speaker 1: I think it depends how big it is. Because there
- 7:23Speaker 1: are times where I've had some social media backlash where
- 7:26Speaker 1: it started to feel a little overwhelming. And I just
- 7:29Speaker 1: get off. Don't look at anything. It's also why I
- 7:31Speaker 1: don't look into comments. It's also why I don't go
- 7:33Speaker 1: into DMs unless it's a specific time where I feel good.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Because it actually can't. get to you unless you let
- 7:41Speaker 1: it get to you. Unless it gets so big that
- 7:43Speaker 1: the places you go, people are reacting to it.
- 7:45Speaker 3: Everyone's staring at you. You know they saw it.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Like whenever I acted like I won the lottery, it
- 7:49Speaker 1: was one of the most bizarre things. Now, this wasn't
- 7:51Speaker 1: a bad one, but the guy had won, I mean,
- 7:53Speaker 1: a billion dollars or so in Arkansas.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Someone in Arkansas, right? And I acted like it was me.
- 7:57Speaker 1: And so I started putting up videos and they went
- 7:58Speaker 1: wildly viral to the point where I started to feel unsafe,
- 8:01Speaker 1: but I would go places because I was in Arkansas
- 8:03Speaker 1: at the time and people would ask me for money.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Just people on the street? Yeah. Strangers.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Yeah. So first it was in DMs. Then people would ask,
- 8:10Speaker 1: see me out and be like, Hey, did you win
- 8:12Speaker 1: the lottery? And so I can understand if something is
- 8:15Speaker 1: so big, people treat you differently in public.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:18Speaker 1: That me doing the lottery thing was the most, first
- 8:22Speaker 1: of all, it's hilarious. Secondly, eyeopening. Dude, I had people
- 8:25Speaker 1: text me. Did Bobby really win the lottery? And that
- 8:28Speaker 1: people were coming up to me in human person form going, Hey,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you won the lottery. Is there any chance that I
- 8:33Speaker 1: could get an app? Just ask me for money that
- 8:36Speaker 1: I don't know. And then me have to go like,
- 8:38Speaker 1: I didn't really win the lottery.
- 8:40Speaker 3: It was a joke.
- 8:40Speaker 1: That was a TikTok bit. Where my wife started to
- 8:43Speaker 1: feel unsafe. We can't keep doing this. So I think
- 8:47Speaker 1: you can shut it off and hide from it when
- 8:50Speaker 1: it's happening to a point. I think it's happening so
- 8:53Speaker 1: intensely around this kid that he probably feels it in
- 8:57Speaker 1: Arkansas when he's still in Arkansas.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Like in Fayetteville.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 9:00Speaker 3: You know who I think of all the time is
- 9:01Speaker 3: Bill Belichick. Like for how many years? Like two years?
- 9:05Speaker 3: People were nonstop talking about him and his girlfriend. He's
- 9:08Speaker 3: not on social media to begin with. I get it. But,
- 9:10Speaker 3: I mean, dude, everyone was talking about how weird their
- 9:14Speaker 3: relationship was. And are they still together?
- 9:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:16Speaker 3: So, like, no one's talking about it anymore. It's almost
- 9:19Speaker 3: what it is. She was on the sideline last week.
- 9:20Speaker 3: They had pictures of her on the sideline last week. Yeah,
- 9:21Speaker 3: but it's not as big as it was. It's kind
- 9:23Speaker 3: of like they show her, and we're like, well, yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 3: that's his girlfriend. They've been together.
- 9:26Speaker 1: We've accepted the weirdness now. His son just got fired.
- 9:30Speaker 5: I know.
- 9:30Speaker 6: Saw that. Yeah, it's getting weird up there outside of
- 9:34Speaker 6: his girlfriend.
- 9:36Speaker 1: It's getting weird up there including his girlfriend it's still
- 9:39Speaker 1: including yeah yeah she's a part of it but yeah
- 9:43Speaker 1: gm's gone belichick's like dog for life son's now gone
- 9:47Speaker 1: who's defensive coordinator.
- 9:49Speaker 3: But are they winning are they three two and oh
- 9:52Speaker 3: two and oh yeah i mean that's crazy that first
- 9:57Speaker 3: game was a decent game i don't know who they
- 9:58Speaker 3: played last week. Was the first game the one in Ireland?
- 10:03Speaker 1: Ireland, yeah.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God, that feels like a lifetime ago.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Do you see the Western Michigan Oversight Committee story, Kevin? No.
- 10:12Speaker 1: They came out and said, hey, we reviewed this, and
- 10:16Speaker 1: the game should have been over.
- 10:17Speaker 6: Oh, boy.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Then change it.
- 10:19Speaker 1: They're not going to change it.
- 10:21Speaker 3: I understand. They can't change it. You have to. If
- 10:24Speaker 3: you can come out and say, we've reviewed it. We
- 10:28Speaker 3: were wrong. The game should have been over. You have
- 10:31Speaker 3: to give Michigan, in my opinion, you have to give
- 10:34Speaker 3: Western Michigan the win and then pay my bet.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it's about to you. I could understand that.
- 10:41Speaker 1: I really could understand that. Pay me my $ 40. Yeah,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I'm going to find the actual specific language they used
- 10:47Speaker 1: because they did say hey, like, we've reviewed this, and
- 10:52Speaker 1: if it were up to us, Western Michigan, the time
- 10:57Speaker 1: wouldn't have been put back on the clock, basically.
- 10:59Speaker 6: I wouldn't even want to hear that as a player.
- 11:01Speaker 3: I'd be like, that just hurts even more. It'd piss
- 11:03Speaker 3: you off even more.
- 11:04Speaker 6: Yeah, like, okay, it's been a couple weeks. We're starting
- 11:06Speaker 6: to slowly kind of get over this, and I'm like, damn,
- 11:10Speaker 6: now we got to hear that?
- 11:12Speaker 3: Here it is.
- 11:12Speaker 1: This is from ESPN's Twitter. The NCAA's FBS Oversight Committee
- 11:17Speaker 1: acknowledged that replay protocols were not properly followed... at the
- 11:20Speaker 1: end of the Western Michigan controversial loss to Michigan in
- 11:22Speaker 1: week one. But they do not have the authority to
- 11:25Speaker 1: overturn the result of the game.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Who has the authority? Nobody. God. Donald Trump can come in.
- 11:30Speaker 1: God does.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Trump can come in and change the score.
- 11:34Speaker 6: He can get the red card off.
- 11:37Speaker 3: He can do it. He did it with soccer.
- 11:39Speaker 1: You're right, Kevin. He did it with soccer. He changed
- 11:41Speaker 1: it to Lake America. Yeah.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Dang, man. That's crazy to me. And then you know what?
- 11:48Speaker 3: I was watching NFL last week. And that play clock,
- 11:51Speaker 3: like I don't know how many times it goes to
- 11:52Speaker 3: double zero and they don't call a delay of game.
- 11:56Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like one second after it goes
- 11:57Speaker 3: to double zero. And I'm wondering too now, like, well,
- 12:00Speaker 3: is their clock in sync with the TV clock?
- 12:02Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 12:02Speaker 3: I can't complain about it.
- 12:03Speaker 1: So I've heard the referees talk about that before, that
- 12:07Speaker 1: what they do, what their rule is as like the
- 12:09Speaker 1: field judge that watches that clock is– They watch the clock,
- 12:14Speaker 1: and when it hits zero, right when it hits zero,
- 12:18Speaker 1: they then look at the quarterback. So they don't hit zero.
- 12:23Speaker 1: They don't time it to go right at the zero.
- 12:26Speaker 1: It goes zero. They look at the quarterback, and if
- 12:28Speaker 1: it's not snapped, then they call it. So it is fractional,
- 12:32Speaker 1: but it is probably a half a second buffer.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Gosh, now we're depending on an eye roll, how quickly
- 12:38Speaker 3: he rolls his eyes over to the quarterback. That's crazy.
- 12:41Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I felt bad for Western Michigan when I read that.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:45Speaker 1: We have Deshaun Jackson coming up in just a few minutes.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I asked Tim Tebow a question on the interview that
- 12:51Speaker 1: I did with him. This is probably going to be
- 12:52Speaker 1: easy for everybody, but I said if you could just
- 12:56Speaker 1: beat one team forever, who would it be? He went
- 12:59Speaker 1: to Florida, and he eventually picked Florida State. It doesn't
- 13:02Speaker 1: matter what sport. It doesn't matter what league. If you
- 13:04Speaker 1: could beat one team forever, you'd never have to lose
- 13:07Speaker 1: to them. Who is it?
- 13:09Speaker 3: Kevin?
- 13:10Speaker 6: Oh, the Yankees.
- 13:11Speaker 1: Oh, you go baseball. So you're Red Sox. You beat
- 13:14Speaker 1: the Yankees. They never get to beat you, but you
- 13:15Speaker 1: hate them.
- 13:16Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate them that much. The number one team
- 13:18Speaker 6: I hate the most out of any sport anywhere on
- 13:20Speaker 6: this earth are the Yankees. And if they could lose
- 13:23Speaker 6: every game, it would just make me so happy.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Do the Patriots have like a natural rival?
- 13:29Speaker 6: The Jets, but the Jets have been so bad for
- 13:31Speaker 6: so long that it's kind of irrelevant to this point.
- 13:36Speaker 1: It was weird to hear you say Yankees while you're
- 13:37Speaker 1: wearing a Patriots jersey today.
- 13:39Speaker 3: But he's only wearing it for the tailgate, for the
- 13:40Speaker 3: free food at work today.
- 13:41Speaker 1: So what's happening?
- 13:43Speaker 6: Yeah, so our salespeople here at the building, they were like, hey,
- 13:45Speaker 6: wear a jersey. We're bringing Costco pizza, hot dogs, and
- 13:50Speaker 6: food and everything. If you wear a jersey of your
- 13:52Speaker 6: favorite team, you can get some free food. I'm like,
- 13:54Speaker 6: easy enough.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Huh.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:57Speaker 6: They're doing it every Thursday, I believe.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Did you buy that jersey?
- 14:00Speaker 6: No, this is a hand-me-down from my dad back in
- 14:02Speaker 6: the 90s. It's Bledsoe.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's cool because it is... Like retro, but
- 14:06Speaker 1: it's a literal one. Yeah, it's literally from like 96.
- 14:10Speaker 6: Like it is 30 years old.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Eddie, you beat a team. They never get to beat you.
- 14:14Speaker 1: Easy.
- 14:14Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Gosh, man.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Because you're the Dallas Cowboys. I'm the Dallas Cowboys. And
- 14:21Speaker 3: I would love to just see the Eagles on the
- 14:23Speaker 3: schedule and just be like, well, that's a win. Guaranteed.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Because that's my wish. Mike? Oklahoma.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Winning Red River every year would be amazing.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Have you been to any of those?
- 14:33Speaker 1: No.
- 14:33Speaker 5: No.
- 14:35Speaker 1: You should go.
- 14:36Speaker 3: You should, Mike. It's in Dallas, too. You should go.
- 14:40Speaker 1: I hate that it's neutral.
- 14:45Speaker 3: What's neutral? That game. Oh, the neutral venue?
- 14:48Speaker 1: Yeah, because I enjoy having to go into an opponent's
- 14:51Speaker 1: home and just be berated and also the opposite. But
- 14:57Speaker 1: of all the neutral games, I mean, that's probably the
- 14:59Speaker 1: one that makes the most sense except the stadium sucks balls.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Yeah, the cotton balls. It's the worst. It's so old.
- 15:04Speaker 1: It's... Yeah, and I do like the half the stadium
- 15:07Speaker 1: is like the dark red.
- 15:09Speaker 3: That's cool. It is cool, man. When I work for
- 15:11Speaker 3: the news, I went a couple times to go cover
- 15:13Speaker 3: it for the news or whatever. And, dude, I think
- 15:17Speaker 3: it was like a 3 o'clock game, and I'd have
- 15:19Speaker 3: to get there like at 9 a.m. And I'm talking
- 15:22Speaker 3: all day, dude. All day all you hear is, Boomer, Sooner, Texas, fight.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Texas sucks. OU sucks. All day is this yell at
- 15:31Speaker 3: each other because it's in the fairgrounds. So people are
- 15:35Speaker 3: there enjoying the fair, drinking all day, and that's all
- 15:37Speaker 3: they yell. I'm talking, dude, for five hours. That's all
- 15:40Speaker 3: I heard.
- 15:41Speaker 1: I'd obviously pick Texas.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Of course.
- 15:44Speaker 5: Why?
- 15:44Speaker 3: In everything. Oh, oh, oh.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Because the Eagles, that's just one sport. The Philadelphia Eagles
- 15:50Speaker 1: only play one sport.
- 15:50Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.
- 15:51Speaker 1: With Kevin, the Red Sox, they play one sport. Yeah.
- 15:55Speaker 1: I mean, Mike could go Oklahoma all sports, but I
- 15:56Speaker 1: would just pick Texas at everything. Reading comprehension, spelling bee, football.
- 16:02Speaker 6: Existence.
- 16:02Speaker 3: I'm surprised you and Mike are such good friends.
- 16:04Speaker 1: War.
- 16:05Speaker 3: What? I'm surprised you and Mike are such good friends. Nemesis.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Hey, me too, man.
- 16:10Speaker 3: That's crazy. You all hate each other. Me too.
- 16:16Speaker 1: You know, there were brothers in the Civil War that
- 16:18Speaker 1: fought on the opposite sides.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Shut up. Is that a true story? It is a
- 16:20Speaker 3: true story.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Why is this not a movie? It may have been
- 16:23Speaker 1: at some point.
- 16:23Speaker 3: I can ask. No, I've seen all the Civil War movies. Oh,
- 16:25Speaker 3: you've seen them all?
- 16:26Speaker 1: I love Civil War movies. Let me just ask real quick.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Are there any stories of brothers fighting against each other
- 16:34Speaker 1: in the Civil War?
- 16:36Speaker 3: Checking. Yep.
- 16:41Speaker 4: One striking case. James and Alexander Campbell, actual brothers on
- 16:46Speaker 4: opposite sides, who fought in the same battle at Secessionville
- 16:50Speaker 4: in 1862. There's also the Crittenden and Terrell brothers, sets
- 16:56Speaker 4: of brothers who became generals on opposing sides. Pretty dramatic
- 17:00Speaker 4: family splits.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened in that family where one of them
- 17:05Speaker 3: was like.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Hey, Thanksgiving?
- 17:06Speaker 3: A little awkward. Awkward?
- 17:08Speaker 1: You think talking politics is awkward now?
- 17:11Speaker 3: Somebody brings up politics. No, guys, don't, don't. Think about that.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Okay, we have Deshaun Jackson coming up in just a second.
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- 18:29Speaker 1: Bringing on now former NFL star and current Delaware State
- 18:32Speaker 1: head coach, Deshaun Jackson. Deshaun Jackson was so legit. And
- 18:38Speaker 1: if you had him on your fantasy team, You just
- 18:40Speaker 1: waited for that one or two bomb shots to go, 60,
- 18:45Speaker 1: 70-yard touchdown. You couldn't contain them. One of the most
- 18:49Speaker 1: explosive deep threats of, I want to say my childhood,
- 18:53Speaker 1: because it's a little later, like my teens to 20s.
- 18:56Speaker 3: That's fair.
- 18:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 18:58Speaker 1: He's a three-time Pro Bowler, and it's his second year
- 19:01Speaker 1: of being the head coach of Delaware State, which they
- 19:03Speaker 1: are the Hornets. Did you know he was the head
- 19:05Speaker 1: coach there? No clue.
- 19:06Speaker 3: No clue. No, and I thought, I didn't even know
- 19:09Speaker 3: they were the Hornets.
- 19:10Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was a Delaware State.
- 19:11Speaker 6: I have to look up where Delaware is.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I've been to Delaware once.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Real nice. It exists.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 19:17Speaker 1: So Deshaun Jackson was drafted in 2008, round two, picked
- 19:22Speaker 1: 49 to the Philadelphia Eagles. He played from 08 to 22. Man,
- 19:25Speaker 1: if you're like a fast guy, that is a long career.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Like if you are leaning on speed to play for
- 19:30Speaker 1: that long, because I, after about five years, I was slow.
- 19:35Speaker 7: Oh, really?
- 19:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I slowed down quicker than most people.
- 19:37Speaker 6: Just five, huh?
- 19:38Speaker 1: That's how it goes. The car only runs redline for
- 19:42Speaker 1: about five years.
- 19:43Speaker 6: I get that.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Here he is, the great Deshaun Jackson. Hey, Coach, I
- 19:46Speaker 1: saw the promo for Go Deep on Instagram. and, you know,
- 19:50Speaker 1: I guess kind of the documentary docuseries that your older
- 19:53Speaker 1: brother shot. So that was 30 years ago. Whenever you
- 19:56Speaker 1: guys started the idea of this, was it that one
- 20:00Speaker 1: day this is going to be something or was it
- 20:02Speaker 1: we just want to have this footage?
- 20:03Speaker 5: I mean, the thing from the get-go, you know, my
- 20:05Speaker 5: brother's passion was never– I wouldn't say it was never
- 20:08Speaker 5: to play football, but I think he found out, you know,
- 20:12Speaker 5: through trials and tribulations of my father pushing him to
- 20:15Speaker 5: play football, that that wasn't his real passion and it
- 20:18Speaker 5: wasn't his real dream. So I think through the process of,
- 20:22Speaker 5: you know, him playing football, making it all the way
- 20:25Speaker 5: to the NFL, to the Kansas City Chiefs for the
- 20:27Speaker 5: practice squad for two years, you know, him and my
- 20:30Speaker 5: dad got in a very heated argument and, you know,
- 20:33Speaker 5: it resulted for them to kind of like not speak
- 20:36Speaker 5: for two years. And I think during that time frame,
- 20:40Speaker 5: you know, my brother being around me, obviously my dad
- 20:42Speaker 5: being there for me as well, too. My dad always
- 20:45Speaker 5: wanted one of his sons to make it to the NFL,
- 20:47Speaker 5: and that was the opportunity. Byron obviously didn't quite work out.
- 20:52Speaker 5: So my brother was just like, man, I'm going to
- 20:54Speaker 5: pick up a camera and I'm going to just start
- 20:55Speaker 5: filming you. And then, you know, here you have a
- 20:57Speaker 5: young kid that just loved the sport, loved the game.
- 21:00Speaker 7: And just every step of the way, it was almost
- 21:02Speaker 7: like it was captured.
- 21:03Speaker 5: So I don't necessarily– say it was meant i went
- 21:06Speaker 5: i can't say it wasn't meant but it wasn't like
- 21:09Speaker 5: planned i mean we didn't really know what we was
- 21:11Speaker 5: gonna do with the footage at the time it was
- 21:13Speaker 5: just like we knew for a fact that i was
- 21:15Speaker 5: a young freaking freak of a nature athlete and you
- 21:19Speaker 5: know i loved it and he loved the camera so
- 21:21Speaker 5: it just worked out for both of us.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I know there was some pop warner footage of you
- 21:26Speaker 1: you say freaking nature were you dominating in pop warner
- 21:28Speaker 1: as well.
- 21:30Speaker 5: For sure yeah man i was always of the fastest
- 21:33Speaker 5: guys on the team i was always one of the
- 21:34Speaker 5: best guys on my team as well too so definitely
- 21:37Speaker 5: dominated every every level every step of the way i
- 21:39Speaker 5: went every team i was on always one of the
- 21:41Speaker 5: best players so um yeah not even only on football
- 21:44Speaker 5: but you know back basketball baseball um running track like
- 21:48Speaker 5: you know in every aspect of anything uh athletic i
- 21:51Speaker 5: you know i definitely was i like to say i
- 21:54Speaker 5: was pretty good.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Was there anything that you saw back you hadn't seen
- 21:57Speaker 1: in a long time that made you feel like sentimental
- 22:00Speaker 1: or nostalgic or even emotional Man, yeah, I mean, I.
- 22:02Speaker 5: Think everything, a part of that film, you know, you
- 22:05Speaker 5: go back 30 plus years, 35 plus years of footage,
- 22:08Speaker 5: raw footage, uncut footage, you know, it's memories that I
- 22:13Speaker 5: could just remember myself when I was young. I was
- 22:15Speaker 5: kind of hard-headed, I like to say, but I did
- 22:18Speaker 5: things the way I wanted to do, but I was
- 22:20Speaker 5: able to learn from a lot of that stuff. When
- 22:21Speaker 5: I was younger, we used to use that to critique
- 22:23Speaker 5: my workouts. Back then, we didn't really have film sessions
- 22:26Speaker 5: and we couldn't really go into like a film room
- 22:30Speaker 5: to watch or critique.
- 22:31Speaker 7: So we just put it up on a cassette.
- 22:33Speaker 5: We used to turn on the TV and I was
- 22:35Speaker 5: just able to like critique my routes and critique certain
- 22:38Speaker 5: moments and times where, you know, just kind of going
- 22:41Speaker 5: back and utilizing that film for something good.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Was there anything Byron captured that you forgot happened?
- 22:47Speaker 7: Man, I wouldn't, not necessarily.
- 22:49Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes I think it catches me off guard
- 22:52Speaker 5: that some of the things he did film, you know,
- 22:55Speaker 5: from a standpoint of, you know, it's just a lot
- 22:59Speaker 5: of private things, right.
- 23:00Speaker 7: That maybe, you know, but the world may not know
- 23:02Speaker 7: the things that you're doing.
- 23:03Speaker 5: So I think from that standpoint to, to open the
- 23:06Speaker 5: doors on letting the world see, um, things that no
- 23:09Speaker 5: one else would have never saw if it wasn't for
- 23:11Speaker 5: a camera. So I think that's just the moral of
- 23:13Speaker 5: the story is just kind of like just presenting and
- 23:15Speaker 5: opening up the world to see how my family was and,
- 23:18Speaker 5: you know, that the obstacles we were faced, um, you know,
- 23:22Speaker 5: that the, um, the negativity, the good, the positivity.
- 23:26Speaker 7: I mean, the good, bad, and different.
- 23:27Speaker 5: Like, it was a lot of ups and downs in
- 23:29Speaker 5: my life to get me to where I'm at today.
- 23:31Speaker 7: And I think, you know, it's good for the world
- 23:32Speaker 7: to see what we went through as a family.
- 23:34Speaker 1: So what about now? You're head coach at Delaware State
- 23:36Speaker 1: year two, but did you have somebody documenting you the
- 23:39Speaker 1: whole time for your first year head coach? Yeah.
- 23:42Speaker 7: I mean, you know, my brother was here a part
- 23:44Speaker 7: of the way as well, too, when he hired.
- 23:46Speaker 5: You know, somebody that basically edited, you know, the documentary
- 23:50Speaker 5: as well, too. So, past year we have a lot
- 23:53Speaker 5: of that stuff and, you know, hopefully once the documentary
- 23:56Speaker 5: is out, you know, hopefully we can follow up with,
- 23:58Speaker 5: you know, what's next.
- 23:59Speaker 7: Like what is coach Jack or what is the Sean
- 24:00Speaker 7: Jackson doing next? So, um, yeah, we, we got a.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Lot of things.
- 24:04Speaker 5: And I think the way I was able to turn
- 24:05Speaker 5: around in my first year, uh, losing program into a
- 24:08Speaker 5: winning program. And it's a lot of things and characteristics
- 24:10Speaker 5: that a lot of people would probably love to see.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Yeah. You guys went eight and four last year and you, yeah,
- 24:15Speaker 1: you took over a losing program and now it is
- 24:18Speaker 1: a winner. Uh, what do you think you did differently
- 24:21Speaker 1: that made that program win?
- 24:23Speaker 7: It was just a mindset.
- 24:24Speaker 5: I think really just coming in and approaching it as a,
- 24:27Speaker 5: you know, I didn't really have too much experience with coaching.
- 24:29Speaker 7: I coached one year before that and I wasn't a
- 24:31Speaker 7: head coach.
- 24:32Speaker 5: So to be able to come in and get an
- 24:33Speaker 5: opportunity to be a head coach of that division one program,
- 24:38Speaker 5: it just was for me, I just took characteristics from
- 24:41Speaker 5: the coaches I respected. And, you know, I kind of
- 24:43Speaker 5: implemented my own coaching style. So that's what you get
- 24:46Speaker 5: out of, you know, coach Jack, but, I can relate
- 24:49Speaker 5: to my players, you know, I allowed them to be
- 24:50Speaker 5: authentic and I allowed them to go out there and
- 24:53Speaker 5: kind of, you know, have fun with the game. So
- 24:55Speaker 5: expectations are high, standards are high, but I just really,
- 24:59Speaker 5: I peeled the layers back and I just built relationships
- 25:01Speaker 5: with them. And, you know, that made them be comfortable
- 25:04Speaker 5: and relatable to say, you know what, I want to
- 25:06Speaker 5: put it on the line for this coach.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends who are D1 coaches
- 25:10Speaker 1: and they all have a very different story about what
- 25:11Speaker 1: they did not know until they were actually the head
- 25:14Speaker 1: coach because they had been assistant coaches, but It was
- 25:17Speaker 1: a whole new world to them once they became a
- 25:19Speaker 1: head coach. What did you not know about the job
- 25:21Speaker 1: that you learned real quick?
- 25:23Speaker 5: A lot. I mean, it's just a lot of things
- 25:26Speaker 5: as a head coach that falls on your desk or
- 25:29Speaker 5: on your plate. You know, for me, I think it's
- 25:32Speaker 5: being a collegiate head coach is, you know, your players
- 25:35Speaker 5: got to go to school, right?
- 25:36Speaker 7: You know, they got to.
- 25:38Speaker 5: Get good grades. And, you know, it comes with a lot.
- 25:42Speaker 5: You know, you got compliance, you got admissions. You talking
- 25:45Speaker 5: to the athletic director. I mean, it's like a lot
- 25:47Speaker 5: of different conversations that you're having. It's just not coaching football.
- 25:49Speaker 5: So for me, just the ins and outs of knowing
- 25:52Speaker 5: how to get a player in school, how you keep
- 25:54Speaker 5: a player eligible, you know, you know, guys getting in trouble.
- 25:57Speaker 5: I mean, it's just like a lot of different variables
- 25:59Speaker 5: that you are not aware of.
- 26:02Speaker 7: And you may think it's easy to get in and
- 26:04Speaker 7: be a coming head coach.
- 26:05Speaker 5: And then you get here and you're like, wow, I
- 26:06Speaker 5: didn't expect all this.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Can you still run with the guys pretty good?
- 26:10Speaker 7: Hey man, uh, Last year, I was a little more.
- 26:15Speaker 7: I worked out and trained with them a little more.
- 26:17Speaker 7: This year, not as much.
- 26:19Speaker 5: But, I mean, I still feel like, you know what,
- 26:21Speaker 5: this is my fourth year being retired from the NFL. Man,
- 26:25Speaker 5: I definitely feel like I can still go out there and,
- 26:28Speaker 5: you know, compete with them and have fun with them.
- 26:30Speaker 7: But I think my time is up.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Could you do an Aaron Donald, though, and go and
- 26:34Speaker 1: maybe get like 10 snaps in an NFL game if
- 26:37Speaker 1: they needed you?
- 26:38Speaker 5: Yeah, I would probably need about three months of training, though.
- 26:41Speaker 5: I definitely feel like I could, though. I could still–
- 26:43Speaker 5: Still feel like I can get out there and get
- 26:44Speaker 5: open though. I'm still fast. I ain't lost that much
- 26:46Speaker 5: of a step.
- 26:47Speaker 1: What would they try to do to you on the
- 26:49Speaker 1: line in your playing days? Because obviously you were so fast.
- 26:52Speaker 1: And I think when they just compare undersized receivers to you,
- 26:55Speaker 1: that is unfair because you had a skill set that
- 26:59Speaker 1: was so different than just being fast. But how would
- 27:02Speaker 1: they try to stop you? Would it just be trying
- 27:04Speaker 1: to be physical with you?
- 27:06Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that was a big part.
- 27:07Speaker 5: Anytime you faced me or you have a defensive coordinator
- 27:10Speaker 5: to stand up long hours at night and then obviously
- 27:13Speaker 5: get into the game and still not being able to
- 27:15Speaker 5: stop me. I think a lot of time and effort
- 27:17Speaker 5: goes into that. But, I mean, for me, they had
- 27:20Speaker 5: to always kind of put two people on me. I mean,
- 27:22Speaker 5: the DB is just not enough. You had to have
- 27:23Speaker 5: an overtop safety help. And sometimes you used to get
- 27:26Speaker 5: through a bracket where it was like three guys. They
- 27:28Speaker 5: would put cover two or try to put like a
- 27:31Speaker 5: linebacker to like reroute me and stuff like that. So
- 27:33Speaker 5: it made it challenging. But, you know, for me, like
- 27:35Speaker 5: I said, I just used my– My cat instincts. I
- 27:39Speaker 5: used to say I'm like a cat out there. I
- 27:41Speaker 5: never really knew what I was going to do. I
- 27:42Speaker 5: just reacted to what the defense did. And I think,
- 27:46Speaker 5: you know, for me, man, I was able to, like
- 27:47Speaker 5: you say, be an undersized receiver but play bigger than
- 27:51Speaker 5: I actually was.
- 27:52Speaker 7: So, you know, to have that success.
- 27:54Speaker 5: I had in the NFL and to do the things
- 27:55Speaker 5: I was able to accomplish, man, I definitely, you know,
- 27:59Speaker 5: the credit goes to where it needs to go to.
- 28:01Speaker 7: You know, I was a dog out there and I
- 28:02Speaker 7: played like it.
- 28:03Speaker 1: If a D coordinator was going to bracket you, use
- 28:06Speaker 1: three guys on you, would you still feel like you
- 28:09Speaker 1: needed the ball or would you understand, well, if I
- 28:10Speaker 1: got three guys on me, that's going to be my
- 28:13Speaker 1: role is to actually just take those three guys away.
- 28:15Speaker 1: So our offense can, can use that vulnerability.
- 28:18Speaker 7: Great question, man.
- 28:19Speaker 5: You know, the player instinct in me and the playmaker
- 28:23Speaker 5: in me always wanted the football, but I definitely understood.
- 28:26Speaker 5: Like you just said, if I got two to three
- 28:28Speaker 5: guys on me, then, you know, it's 11 on 11
- 28:30Speaker 5: football game, right? So if it's three guys on me,
- 28:32Speaker 5: then at least, you know, eight guys on the rest
- 28:35Speaker 5: of the, the, 10 guys. So for me, it was
- 28:38Speaker 5: always one of those things. If I, if I could
- 28:40Speaker 5: take attention off or if I could take the top
- 28:42Speaker 5: off the defense and maybe that, you know, left it
- 28:45Speaker 5: open for underneath receivers or running backs or tight ends
- 28:48Speaker 5: or wherever else the case may be. It always was
- 28:51Speaker 5: a good feeling to me because wins and losses come
- 28:54Speaker 5: as a team, right? You got to play your part.
- 28:55Speaker 5: And I think everybody playing their part makes it easier
- 28:57Speaker 5: for a team to win. So, you know, I wouldn't
- 28:59Speaker 5: sit here and lie to you and say, I didn't
- 29:01Speaker 5: want the football, but sometimes I did understand that, you know,
- 29:04Speaker 5: I may get taken out of some games.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Would you go back to the huddle and just go
- 29:08Speaker 1: throw me the ball?
- 29:10Speaker 7: Damn right. Give me the ball ASAP. Let me make
- 29:13Speaker 7: a play.
- 29:14Speaker 5: And then, too, sometimes, you know, you got reverses or
- 29:16Speaker 5: you can get the ball in the backfield as well, too.
- 29:18Speaker 7: So it ain't always got to be a home run
- 29:20Speaker 7: deep shot.
- 29:21Speaker 5: But, yeah, I mean, anytime I can touch the ball
- 29:23Speaker 5: and physically just have it in my hands, man, I
- 29:24Speaker 5: felt like, you know, I was electrifying play anytime I
- 29:27Speaker 5: had the ball in my hands.
- 29:28Speaker 1: What was your draft story? Who was telling you they
- 29:30Speaker 1: were going to draft you? Where did you think you
- 29:31Speaker 1: would go? And how did that shake out draft day?
- 29:34Speaker 5: Man, I had a lot of different teams, man, that
- 29:36Speaker 5: was saying i was going drafting but i think that's
- 29:38Speaker 5: neither here nor there i mean i think it's just
- 29:40Speaker 5: you know uh you know just potential talk you don't
- 29:44Speaker 5: really know man like teams you know say they're going
- 29:47Speaker 5: to draft guys and i think this happens all the
- 29:49Speaker 5: time that you get to the draft day and draft
- 29:51Speaker 5: board you know some guys may be higher on other
- 29:54Speaker 5: guys and you.
- 29:55Speaker 7: Know, things just play out different.
- 29:56Speaker 5: But I know I had at least like seven or
- 29:58Speaker 5: eight teams that said they was going to draft me
- 29:59Speaker 5: in the first round. Obviously, it kind of slipped and
- 30:02Speaker 5: it didn't happen. I slipped to the second round, but,
- 30:06Speaker 5: you know, I can just remember that like it was yesterday. Man,
- 30:08Speaker 5: I got a call from Andy Reid and, you know,
- 30:10Speaker 5: it was just one of those things where I think,
- 30:12Speaker 5: you know, my collegiate head coach and my dad didn't
- 30:16Speaker 5: really get along and, you know, some things that were
- 30:18Speaker 5: said and it just made it seem like my dad
- 30:19Speaker 5: was a distraction. And, you know, for me, it kind
- 30:22Speaker 5: of hurt because I just know how much my dad
- 30:24Speaker 5: meant and, You know, all the hard work he did
- 30:26Speaker 5: to help get to where I got to. So it
- 30:28Speaker 5: was just kind of– it was a happy, but at
- 30:30Speaker 5: the same time, it was kind of like a frustrating
- 30:31Speaker 5: thing to hear on draft day.
- 30:33Speaker 1: What's your philosophy as a head coach with the transfer portal?
- 30:36Speaker 1: Will you have guys come in and you go, hey,
- 30:38Speaker 1: I want to help you move up if you want?
- 30:40Speaker 1: Or it's like come to Delaware State and we're just
- 30:43Speaker 1: going to do it? Like what do you tell them?
- 30:44Speaker 7: I mean, my pitch is simple, man.
- 30:46Speaker 5: I mean, you know, to be able to get some
- 30:47Speaker 5: of the guys we get, obviously, you know, we're not
- 30:50Speaker 5: some of these big schools and big programs that have
- 30:52Speaker 5: the all glamorous stadiums and locker rooms and jerseys and stuff.
- 30:56Speaker 7: So, and then, you know, the NIL as well too.
- 30:58Speaker 5: So for me, I think it's an experience to come
- 31:00Speaker 5: play under a head coach that has experience, that has
- 31:02Speaker 5: a lot of relationships at the next level. It's able
- 31:05Speaker 5: to teach you and, you know, let you know what
- 31:06Speaker 5: they're looking for at the next level. And only, and
- 31:09Speaker 5: not only that, you know, to be able to get
- 31:10Speaker 5: playing time, um, you can use this as a stepping stone.
- 31:13Speaker 5: Obviously you can come here, get film. And, you know,
- 31:15Speaker 5: if it's going to a bigger, uh, a power five
- 31:17Speaker 5: or power four school, obviously that's, that's the plan. But, um,
- 31:22Speaker 5: biggest thing is just learning you know and getting reps
- 31:24Speaker 5: and then getting playing time as well too and just
- 31:26Speaker 5: taking it for what it's worth.
- 31:27Speaker 1: What meeting rooms do you spend the most time in.
- 31:29Speaker 5: I'm kind of even man like you know i always
- 31:32Speaker 5: tell my offensive guy and you know i'm very influential
- 31:34Speaker 5: in the offensive room but you know i like to
- 31:36Speaker 5: go on the defensive side of the ball as well
- 31:38Speaker 5: too just to get a feel and kind of let
- 31:40Speaker 5: them know my impact and what i what i see
- 31:42Speaker 5: as well too because being as successful as i was
- 31:45Speaker 5: as a wide receiver you know it takes a lot
- 31:47Speaker 5: for me to understand the defense as well too so
- 31:49Speaker 5: I definitely love to give them my insight on what
- 31:51Speaker 5: I think on defense.
- 31:53Speaker 1: When you were playing in high school, and I'm curious
- 31:54Speaker 1: about the footage that your brother shot, did you play
- 31:56Speaker 1: all positions?
- 31:59Speaker 5: I wouldn't say all positions, but I definitely played. I
- 32:02Speaker 5: played DB. I played a little bit of safety and
- 32:05Speaker 5: just wide receiver. Never really played quarterback in high school, but,
- 32:08Speaker 5: you know, I used to put me in the backfield
- 32:10Speaker 5: sometimes and hit me off the ball as well, too.
- 32:11Speaker 7: But it was just more like DB and receiver.
- 32:14Speaker 1: If you got to take the Eagles out of the mix,
- 32:15Speaker 1: which uniform did you like wearing the best? Not the city,
- 32:18Speaker 1: but like which one looked the best? Was it Washington, Tampa,
- 32:21Speaker 1: the Rams, Raiders, or Ravens?
- 32:23Speaker 7: I would probably say, man, that Rams jersey.
- 32:26Speaker 5: Man, that was my first time wearing number one in
- 32:28Speaker 5: the NFL because, you know, in my career when I
- 32:30Speaker 5: was younger, you could never really wear a single-digit number.
- 32:32Speaker 5: So when I went to the Rams, I was able
- 32:36Speaker 5: to wear number one. And, you know, it was just
- 32:38Speaker 5: something about how that number one looked, man, on me.
- 32:40Speaker 5: And that Los Angeles Ram, obviously that was– my hometown
- 32:43Speaker 5: as well too but yeah i would probably say the rams.
- 32:46Speaker 1: You do did you do jersey swaps throughout most of
- 32:48Speaker 1: your career or is that kind of a later in your.
- 32:50Speaker 7: Career thing oh yeah i did jersey swaps sure do
- 32:52Speaker 7: you have.
- 32:53Speaker 1: One that stands out as like one of the favorites
- 32:55Speaker 1: that you got.
- 32:55Speaker 5: Ah probably man probably like a tom brady or uh
- 33:00Speaker 5: or aaron rogers tom brady aaron rogers man they obviously
- 33:04Speaker 5: both california guys california kids as well and um I
- 33:09Speaker 5: look at Tom Brady as the GOAT, all-time GOAT in
- 33:14Speaker 5: the NFL, best quarterback to play the game. To be
- 33:16Speaker 5: able to get one from him, Aaron Rodgers, he went
- 33:19Speaker 5: to Cal's World 2. I didn't get a chance to
- 33:21Speaker 5: play with him, but I look up to Aaron Rodgers'
- 33:23Speaker 5: World 2. Those two jerseys mean a lot to me.
- 33:25Speaker 1: You have South Florida coming up this week. You feel
- 33:28Speaker 1: good about this matchup?
- 33:29Speaker 5: We got to compete regardless of who they are. They're
- 33:33Speaker 5: an FBS team. We're an FCS team, so resources, money,
- 33:36Speaker 5: bigger guys, all that stuff. But at the end of
- 33:38Speaker 5: the day, they put their pants on just like us,
- 33:40Speaker 5: you know, so we get an opportunity to go out
- 33:41Speaker 5: there and, you know, show the world and compete, you know,
- 33:44Speaker 5: and hopefully we can leave out that stadium with a win.
- 33:46Speaker 5: But very excited. You know, I'm going to bet on
- 33:49Speaker 5: us all the time. You know, I know we're up
- 33:52Speaker 5: for a challenge and we'll be ready for it.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Hey, Deshaun, really appreciate the time. Go deep, the Deshaun
- 33:57Speaker 1: Jackson story. Super excited about this. I thought even the
- 33:59Speaker 1: promo was so cool to see. So good luck this week.
- 34:02Speaker 1: I hope the project turns out. out exactly how you
- 34:04Speaker 1: want it. And thanks for spending the time with us.
- 34:07Speaker 7: Sure, man. Thanks for having me. Appreciate you guys.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Thanks coach.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I got a text from Kane Brown saying, Hey, good
- 34:15Speaker 1: luck this weekend to me. And I thought, Oh, he's
- 34:17Speaker 1: talking about the music festival.
- 34:20Speaker 3: Oh, right. Cause you got Vegas.
- 34:21Speaker 1: I already a music festival. And I thought that's weird.
- 34:24Speaker 1: We don't ever wish each other.
- 34:26Speaker 6: And he's not performing, right?
- 34:27Speaker 3: You guys are just, you're working there.
- 34:29Speaker 1: He's not even there for a second. I struggle with it.
- 34:32Speaker 1: Then I remember he's a Georgia bulldog. And then I
- 34:35Speaker 1: remembered we're playing Georgia.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Dang.
- 34:39Speaker 6: Now, is he just being like, he knows.
- 34:41Speaker 3: He knows.
- 34:42Speaker 6: Right?
- 34:42Speaker 1: Let me read you.
- 34:43Speaker 6: He's not actually saying good luck. He's like, good luck
- 34:46Speaker 6: of not getting killed this weekend.
- 34:48Speaker 3: That it's not so bad.
- 34:50Speaker 1: He says, good luck this weekend.
- 34:52Speaker 3: That's it.
- 34:53Speaker 1: I said, stop.
- 34:54Speaker 3: Nice.
- 34:55Speaker 1: He said, this is the best we've looked in years.
- 34:57Speaker 1: We've played nobody, but we never scored like this. I say,
- 35:00Speaker 1: you'll play less than nobody this week. We've never been
- 35:04Speaker 1: worse in my life.
- 35:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Is that true?
- 35:08Speaker 3: They've never been worse in your life?
- 35:10Speaker 1: So I did a post on Twitter a couple days ago.
- 35:15Speaker 1: And it went what I would call Arkansas viral. Okay.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Because it was so just for Arkansas football fans. I'll
- 35:21Speaker 1: be brief. I know nobody wants to hear me talk
- 35:23Speaker 1: about Arkansas football. So I wrote, this is for Arkansas
- 35:26Speaker 1: football fans. Everybody else keep scrolling. And the video is
- 35:28Speaker 1: me in the backyard. And I said, hey, I'm used
- 35:31Speaker 1: to not being good. We've had a lot of seasons
- 35:32Speaker 1: where we're not good. We've had some where we've been
- 35:34Speaker 1: really good. We've had a lot where we've been mid.
- 35:36Speaker 1: But I'm used to having losing seasons. I said, but
- 35:39Speaker 1: I'm not used to being the absolute worst. Like the worst. Worst.
- 35:44Speaker 1: And so I said, there's always been Kentucky or Mississippi
- 35:46Speaker 1: State or Vanderbilt. Same thing I've said.
- 35:47Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 35:48Speaker 1: And so I did that and I feel like people
- 35:50Speaker 1: are unfairly going after our head coach. He's had two games.
- 35:54Speaker 1: And I said that. He didn't have ample time to
- 35:56Speaker 1: raise money. He didn't have ample time to really... When
- 36:01Speaker 1: he was hired, the portal was close to being closed.
- 36:04Speaker 1: So we did spend an okay amount of money on
- 36:08Speaker 1: our roster, but did you guys see the article in
- 36:10Speaker 1: the picture in The Athletic of the teams and where
- 36:11Speaker 1: they spent their money?
- 36:13Speaker 3: No.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Not only did I see it because I subscribed to it,
- 36:17Speaker 1: but I have a couple friends who are head coaches,
- 36:20Speaker 1: and he sent it over to me. He was like,
- 36:23Speaker 1: did you see this? I'm not going to say who
- 36:25Speaker 1: it was, but it shows you all the team's basically
- 36:30Speaker 1: in the P4 conferences. And the top are above 50 million,
- 36:35Speaker 1: there's two teams. Oh, you want to guess the two teams?
- 36:37Speaker 6: Texas.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Ohio State.
- 36:39Speaker 1: And Texas. Yeah. They're the two teams that have spent
- 36:40Speaker 1: over 50 million. Then there's teams between 40 and 50 million.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Any shots here?
- 36:46Speaker 3: Notre Dame.
- 36:47Speaker 6: Correct. Miami.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Correct. Oregon. Good job, guys. Oregon has spent over 50 million. Oh, wow.
- 36:58Speaker 1: They didn't show up the first time I looked at it,
- 37:02Speaker 1: but I see them here now.
- 37:03Speaker 3: We're missing one more?
- 37:04Speaker 1: No, there's a bunch. In that between 40 and 50 range.
- 37:08Speaker 6: Texas Tech.
- 37:09Speaker 1: It is LSU, Miami, Texas A & M, Notre Dame,
- 37:14Speaker 1: Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas Tech, Tennessee, and the right there
- 37:20Speaker 1: around 40 is Indiana.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Oh, Indiana. Wow, look at that.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Between 30 and 40 million. Teams like OU, Nebraska, Georgia, Clemson,
- 37:31Speaker 1: Penn State, South Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, Southern California. Maybe missing
- 37:38Speaker 1: a couple of these. Teams around 20 to 30 million. Rutgers, Yale. No, no. Rutgers. Sorry,
- 37:48Speaker 1: I don't have them lit up. I have to scroll
- 37:50Speaker 1: to get them to light up, so I'm kind of
- 37:51Speaker 1: seeing them.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Wait, so what's Rutgers' number? 20 million. Okay, $ 20 million.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Arkansas is in that mix between $ 20 and $ 30 million.
- 37:59Speaker 6: I think Rutgers is worse.
- 38:01Speaker 1: I'm just saying the money we've spent.
- 38:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Also in this is Illinois, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Louisville, Florida State, TCU.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Looks like North Carolina State, Georgia Tech. And then there's
- 38:16Speaker 1: the $ 10 to $ 20 million range in football. These are
- 38:19Speaker 1: P4 schools. Colorado.
- 38:23Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 38:24Speaker 1: This is like the bottom of money spent. Uh, Colorado, Stanford, Arizona, Cincinnati,
- 38:34Speaker 1: Oklahoma state, Purdue, Minnesota. Yeah. You can just see who
- 38:43Speaker 1: the teams are that are good because they've, they've got,
- 38:45Speaker 1: they have more money.
- 38:46Speaker 3: Right. And you know, what's interesting is out of your,
- 38:49Speaker 3: everything that you've mentioned, you, USC is the only one
- 38:54Speaker 3: on the West Coast, other than Arizona.
- 38:57Speaker 6: In Oregon.
- 38:57Speaker 1: So they're around $ 40 million. Yeah, let me see if
- 39:02Speaker 1: maybe I skipped. There aren't a lot of West Coast powerhouses, though,
- 39:05Speaker 1: just in general.
- 39:06Speaker 3: No.
- 39:07Speaker 1: Even football schools.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Right.
- 39:08Speaker 6: It's really just Oregon over there that we talk about
- 39:10Speaker 6: so much consistently.
- 39:12Speaker 3: I know, but then there's, did you say Washington?
- 39:15Speaker 1: Wisconsin is at $ 30 million. Washington is between $ 20 and
- 39:18Speaker 1: $ 30 million.
- 39:18Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
- 39:19Speaker 1: It's a really cool article. And it just shows you, yeah,
- 39:26Speaker 1: estimated roster budgets i can give you an order now
- 39:29Speaker 1: top 10 ohio state oregon texas that's one two three
- 39:34Speaker 1: lsu texas a & m miami 456 notre dame old
- 39:37Speaker 1: miss tennessee 789 alabama 10 so um arkansas oof Yeah, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
- 39:47Speaker 3: 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33rd.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Dang.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Where was Florida? I wish they had numbered these.
- 39:49Speaker 1: So if Arkansas is here, it's up tremendously. It's probably
- 39:51Speaker 1: like number 15. So it was a really interesting article
- 39:52Speaker 1: about it's all about do you have money?
- 40:15Speaker 3: And then it breaks down where they spent their money?
- 40:18Speaker 1: It's their estimated budget on their team.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Got it.
- 40:21Speaker 6: Schools got to hate that, right? Unless you're one of
- 40:23Speaker 6: the big spenders. Like, for the public to know.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Well, I would say the opposite as well. I think
- 40:30Speaker 1: schools that aren't spending any, I think the coaches like
- 40:32Speaker 1: it to be known that they don't suck. They just
- 40:34Speaker 1: don't have resources.
- 40:35Speaker 3: That's a good point. And maybe the people who were
- 40:38Speaker 3: thinking about donating realized, like, oh, man, they don't have
- 40:41Speaker 3: the money. Maybe I should donate now. Like, the bottom.
- 40:49Speaker 1: I can give you two of the coaches that I
- 40:52Speaker 1: know that I'm not talking about that I've been talking with.
- 40:56Speaker 1: They're both at the bottom. Purdue has $ 16 to $ 20 million.
- 40:59Speaker 1: They're near the bottom. And Kansas is six from the bottom,
- 41:03Speaker 1: $ 15 to $ 17 million. Dang.
- 41:07Speaker 3: That Purdue-Wake Forest game was pretty good. I think they
- 41:09Speaker 3: went to overtime.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Bunch of broke players.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Last week.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Mismatched jerseys.
- 41:15Speaker 6: No names on the back.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Two different socks. Yeah.
- 41:17Speaker 1: A name of the guy from last year.
- 41:18Speaker 3: It's not that bad.
- 41:24Speaker 1: So I had posted that and I had said, you
- 41:28Speaker 1: guys got to stop with the coach. It's two or
- 41:30Speaker 1: two games in. Even if he didn't like the hire,
- 41:32Speaker 1: you're two games in. It is not his fault. And
- 41:34Speaker 1: then I said, if you want to look at the
- 41:37Speaker 1: consistent thing that's been a part of our slow, just
- 41:41Speaker 1: absolute dive into the pool of, well, not even mediocrity.
- 41:46Speaker 1: just being bad, like look above him. And so, yeah,
- 41:49Speaker 1: we're kind of viral.
- 41:49Speaker 3: Dude, this is, this whole like money and donations and NIL,
- 41:54Speaker 3: it just throw, it throws the older people for a loop.
- 41:59Speaker 3: They're just, they look at this and they'd be like, what,
- 42:01Speaker 3: what is college football anymore? I don't even get it.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I don't understand.
- 42:05Speaker 3: This isn't fair. How is this good for the kids?
- 42:08Speaker 3: How is this good for the university? How are they
- 42:10Speaker 3: supposed to get an education? And it's crazy. I sit
- 42:12Speaker 3: there with like, I go to my kids' football games
- 42:14Speaker 3: and talk to so many grandpas, you know, that, love
- 42:17Speaker 3: to talk about this stuff and they just don't get
- 42:19Speaker 3: it and they don't like it. And it's just everything
- 42:23Speaker 3: that they did not grow up with. Yeah.
- 42:25Speaker 1: People don't like what they didn't grow up with, but there,
- 42:27Speaker 1: there have been a couple of these type. I don't
- 42:30Speaker 1: want to say scenarios is bigger than that, but whenever
- 42:32Speaker 1: they started to give football players scholarships, there was like
- 42:35Speaker 1: a revolt. You're giving kids free college to play football.
- 42:39Speaker 1: This is not what I grew up with. You played
- 42:40Speaker 1: for the love of the game and then you also paid.
- 42:42Speaker 1: So this has happened a few times. It's just like technology.
- 42:49Speaker 1: We've been through everything we're going through 10 times already.
- 42:51Speaker 1: It's just different and newer. And we think we're at
- 42:54Speaker 1: the forefront of, but you know, this has happened before.
- 42:57Speaker 3: There's something that Deshaun said that was kind of like
- 43:00Speaker 3: interesting to me is that he said, you asked him,
- 43:02Speaker 3: you know, what was, what's something that he didn't know
- 43:05Speaker 3: about being a head coach. And he was talking about,
- 43:07Speaker 3: you know, eligibility and grades and having them go to school.
- 43:11Speaker 3: And I was thinking, I wonder if that's a Delaware
- 43:13Speaker 3: State thing and not so much of an Ohio State thing.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Do those guys even go to class?
- 43:19Speaker 1: I think they have records of being enrolled in classes.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Right, right. That's what I mean. So when I heard
- 43:29Speaker 3: him say that, I'm like, wow, maybe he does have
- 43:31Speaker 3: to deal with that because they're such a small school.
- 43:34Speaker 3: Because there's no way that these big schools are dealing
- 43:37Speaker 3: with that crap.
- 43:37Speaker 6: That'd be tough. Especially now that they're making a bunch
- 43:41Speaker 6: of money. Because before, even before NIL, they weren't going
- 43:43Speaker 6: to class. And then now they're making millions. Now they
- 43:46Speaker 6: really don't want.
- 43:46Speaker 3: To go to class.
- 43:47Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't going to class and they were probably
- 43:49Speaker 1: collecting hundreds of thousands under the table. Yes. Now they're
- 43:51Speaker 1: making millions and they can have it above the table
- 43:53Speaker 1: and actually have their super fancy cars and their nice
- 43:56Speaker 1: houses outwardly. And why would you want to go to class?
- 43:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:00Speaker 6: That'd be tough.
- 44:00Speaker 3: That'd be tough.
- 44:01Speaker 1: So you do virtual.
- 44:03Speaker 6: Yes. Or I think. Trinidad-Chambers, I think he's taking like
- 44:07Speaker 6: racket sports or something.
- 44:08Speaker 3: They're homeschooled.
- 44:09Speaker 1: The wait is over. Football is here. So is DraftKings.
- 44:14Speaker 1: DraftKings is live now in all 50 states. One app
- 44:16Speaker 1: every sport nationwide. Just looking at some of the games
- 44:19Speaker 1: this weekend. The Houston and Texas Tech game is interesting.
- 44:23Speaker 1: That's the Friday 7 p.m.
- 44:24Speaker 7: Game.
- 44:26Speaker 1: For me, Houston was never good, and they've been good
- 44:29Speaker 1: now for a few years. They still don't feel real.
- 44:31Speaker 3: No, I know.
- 44:32Speaker 1: They're just now starting to feel real in basketball because
- 44:35Speaker 1: Kelvin Sampson has really turned that into a man-eater program.
- 44:39Speaker 1: They play such defense basketball-wise, and they've also been to
- 44:42Speaker 1: the championship. But Houston football, they just haven't been good
- 44:46Speaker 1: enough for me to believe, but they're good.
- 44:49Speaker 3: I feel like they were good in, like, when I
- 44:52Speaker 3: was little.
- 44:52Speaker 1: When I was little, they were with us in Arkansas.
- 44:54Speaker 7: Really?
- 44:55Speaker 1: We had the Southwest Conference, yes.
- 44:56Speaker 6: Like them and, like, the SMU back in the day?
- 44:58Speaker 4: Yes.
- 44:58Speaker 3: Like, I remember them talking about Andre Ware. I think
- 45:00Speaker 3: he was the quarterback. Oh, yeah. Juan the Heisman. So, like, yes,
- 45:03Speaker 3: they were good then. But, yeah, dude, you're right. Our
- 45:05Speaker 3: whole lifetime, like, I don't remember them being good.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Like, if I say Houston, I think of that like,
- 45:09Speaker 1: are they real? Or do they just have a number
- 45:12Speaker 1: beside them because they've won easy games? But they're real.
- 45:15Speaker 1: But Texas Tech, what do you think of? Go. Oil.
- 45:18Speaker 3: Money. Oil and money.
- 45:20Speaker 1: That's all I think about. My association with Texas Tech
- 45:22Speaker 1: is just money. Yep. Like they should be winning. They
- 45:26Speaker 1: have a lot of money.
- 45:27Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:28Speaker 6: Losing their quarterback.
- 45:29Speaker 1: What do you think of on Saturday Georgia and Arkansas play?
- 45:32Speaker 1: What about Georgia? What word comes to mind? I'm going
- 45:35Speaker 1: to go consistency.
- 45:36Speaker 6: Dominance.
- 45:37Speaker 3: Good one.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Because I think I'm going to be consistently dominant.
- 45:43Speaker 3: That's funny. Combine them. Yeah. You?
- 45:46Speaker 1: Dogs.
- 45:46Speaker 3: Dogs. Okay. Dolls.
- 45:51Speaker 1: What about USC now?
- 45:55Speaker 6: One word.
- 45:56Speaker 1: I would say defenseless.
- 46:00Speaker 6: I would say underwhelming.
- 46:03Speaker 1: Because they can never play defense is why. They've been
- 46:06Speaker 1: able to score. This year, they're better. I think they're better.
- 46:08Speaker 6: Yeah, but they've also played nobody.
- 46:10Speaker 1: I know. I know. They've spent money. On the defensive
- 46:13Speaker 1: side of the ball, Lincoln Riley also associating everything he
- 46:15Speaker 1: did to Oklahoma and USC, where they just scored a
- 46:18Speaker 1: bunch of points and just hoped to outscore everybody. But yeah,
- 46:21Speaker 1: they're playing Rutgers, and Rutgers also sucks.
- 46:23Speaker 3: Man, they're so bad. Yeah. My word would be late
- 46:29Speaker 3: for them, because they usually play late.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Because you got it.
- 46:32Speaker 6: That's pretty good.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Florida State, what comes to mind?
- 46:36Speaker 4: Eddie?
- 46:37Speaker 3: Oh, gosh.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Florida State's playing Alabama, 2.30 on Saturday. Bad. Bad.
- 46:41Speaker 3: Florida State is bad.
- 46:43Speaker 6: Oh, Florida State, yeah.
- 46:45Speaker 3: Yeah, for the past two years, it's bad.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say confusing because I think Mike Norvell
- 46:50Speaker 1: is a good coach, and I'm just confused as to
- 46:54Speaker 1: why they can't win. They're not even in a really
- 46:57Speaker 1: hard conference. They're in a fine conference, but a second
- 47:01Speaker 1: tier of the P4, they're not Big Ten or SEC.
- 47:04Speaker 1: They should be good.
- 47:06Speaker 6: Crazy, you kind of forgotten about them the last two years.
- 47:08Speaker 6: Since Jordan Travis left and that whole debacle of not
- 47:11Speaker 6: making the playoff. And now it's like, wait, they're still
- 47:13Speaker 6: around here?
- 47:13Speaker 3: Yeah, there was the one game short of the playoffs, right?
- 47:16Speaker 3: The one where they lost. And then two.
- 47:17Speaker 1: Because their quarterback got hurt.
- 47:18Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 47:19Speaker 3: And then two bad seasons.
- 47:20Speaker 1: They're playing Alabama. What do you think about Alabama right now?
- 47:25Speaker 1: What comes to mind? I would say identity-less.
- 47:27Speaker 3: There we go. You don't know who they are.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Because forever Alabama was known as a certain type of football.
- 47:32Speaker 1: And last year they couldn't run the ball at all.
- 47:35Speaker 1: And Saban's gone. DeBoer's now there. It's just not the same.
- 47:40Speaker 1: So Alabama's not going to be able to do the
- 47:42Speaker 1: same things. But I don't really know who they are.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:45Speaker 6: I'll just say good.
- 47:48Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm kind of with you. I'm trying to pick
- 47:50Speaker 3: another word other than.
- 47:51Speaker 6: I almost said Saban-less, but I kind of.
- 47:53Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. Like, coach, question mark?
- 47:57Speaker 6: Yes.
- 47:58Speaker 1: LSU at Ole Miss, Saturday, 630.
- 48:01Speaker 6: Let's go.
- 48:02Speaker 1: LSU, what do you think? I have mine. I'm not
- 48:05Speaker 1: going to change it. What do you think?
- 48:07Speaker 6: Kiffin.
- 48:08Speaker 1: I think Lane.
- 48:09Speaker 3: I go Kiffin.
- 48:10Speaker 1: He's already taken over the whole brand.
- 48:11Speaker 3: Everything.
- 48:12Speaker 1: It's not even a full season in, and he's LSU.
- 48:16Speaker 3: Yes.
- 48:17Speaker 1: And then Ole Miss, what do you think about?
- 48:21Speaker 3: Underdog. Lucky?
- 48:24Speaker 1: Why?
- 48:25Speaker 3: I feel like the last couple games, they've been lucky.
- 48:29Speaker 3: The first one, they barely beat Louisville. This last one,
- 48:34Speaker 3: I think, who did they play?
- 48:36Speaker 6: I think they killed, but they played like Charlotte.
- 48:38Speaker 3: Yeah, they played Charlotte, and I remember it was a
- 48:40Speaker 3: slow start, and then they finally took off, so I
- 48:42Speaker 3: feel like they're getting lucky right now, but we'll see
- 48:43Speaker 3: what happens.
- 48:45Speaker 1: Like middle child is what I think of with Ole Miss,
- 48:48Speaker 1: because they're not up in that upper echelon of SEC teams.
- 48:50Speaker 1: They're also not in the bottom, and every once in
- 48:53Speaker 1: a while they pop up, but I just think of
- 48:55Speaker 1: them as kind of like the middle child. I mean,
- 48:56Speaker 1: I thought about Arkansas as a middle child forever, but
- 48:58Speaker 1: now we've been grounded and sent to our room.
- 49:01Speaker 3: Stay in your room.
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- 50:08Speaker 1: I'm going to Vegas in November to play in the
- 50:12Speaker 1: Celebrity Poker Tournament.
- 50:14Speaker 7: What?
- 50:14Speaker 3: No way. I got invited.
- 50:17Speaker 1: I haven't played poker really in a long time.
- 50:19Speaker 3: But back in the day, you used to play tournaments.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Back in the day, I played a lot. But it's
- 50:22Speaker 1: the Celebrity Poker Tour Las Vegas.
- 50:24Speaker 6: Let's go.
- 50:25Speaker 1: No, no, no.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Seriously, let's go. Let's go. All of us, let's go.
- 50:28Speaker 3: We want to go and support you.
- 50:30Speaker 1: I think it's during F1. And so when I got invited,
- 50:34Speaker 1: I said, hey, I don't know. Because one, there's like
- 50:39Speaker 1: an entry fee. And then two, it was, I don't
- 50:43Speaker 1: want to go pay a bunch for a room if
- 50:44Speaker 1: they're having F1 and all the rooms in Vegas are
- 50:46Speaker 1: sold out. And they said, no, we'll cover your entry fee,
- 50:49Speaker 1: which I think is $ 6, 000. What? And then we'll cover
- 50:51Speaker 1: your room. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm in.
- 50:55Speaker 3: Wow.
- 50:56Speaker 1: I hope I can say that, but I'm going to
- 50:58Speaker 1: go play in the Celebrity Poker Tour Las Vegas, the tournament.
- 51:01Speaker 3: What's the pot? I don't know.
- 51:03Speaker 1: But they listed some of the celebrities were there, and
- 51:05Speaker 1: there's some decent players.
- 51:07Speaker 3: Celebrities? Yeah. And so with that, is it the pot
- 51:11Speaker 3: goes to you or it goes to charity because it's celebrity?
- 51:14Speaker 1: Oh, I would think it goes to You should ask.
- 51:19Speaker 1: I would think it goes to the winner. Not all
- 51:21Speaker 1: of it, but it's split out. Or at least some.
- 51:27Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't played really any poker at all.
- 51:29Speaker 6: I was going to say, I don't think I've ever
- 51:31Speaker 6: seen you play poker. It's usually just craps, like if
- 51:33Speaker 6: we're in Vegas or something.
- 51:34Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I'm definitely not going to. But I had
- 51:36Speaker 1: a full eight years where it.
- 51:37Speaker 3: Was all I did. Eight years?
- 51:38Speaker 6: That was very specific.
- 51:39Speaker 1: All I did.
- 51:41Speaker 3: I mean, early on when I met Bobby, one of
- 51:43Speaker 3: the first times I went to his house was poker.
- 51:45Speaker 6: Like online poker?
- 51:46Speaker 4: No.
- 51:47Speaker 1: Some online, but I was playing in games, warehouse games,
- 51:49Speaker 1: underground games. I was flying to Vegas every two weekends.
- 51:52Speaker 3: What?
- 51:52Speaker 1: Playing in tournaments.
- 51:53Speaker 6: You were like that movie?
- 51:54Speaker 1: All I was doing was reading books. Not even that.
- 51:56Speaker 1: It got so bad, I was reading biographies of like
- 51:58Speaker 1: Doyle Brunson and like just the players. I didn't care about-
- 52:00Speaker 1: Who's Doyle Brunson? He's like the grandfather of poker. He's like, yeah.
- 52:05Speaker 6: You and Kevin Spacey going to Vegas?
- 52:06Speaker 3: Yeah, man. It was crazy. Dang, that's cool.
- 52:09Speaker 1: The loudest stadiums in the NFL according to an acoustical engineer. Yeah.
- 52:14Speaker 3: The Chiefs, right? The Chiefs have to be one. Why
- 52:16Speaker 3: do you think that? Aren't they proud of their 162
- 52:19Speaker 3: decibels or whatever it is? I never heard that.
- 52:21Speaker 6: I think they even have them marked in the stadium.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Yeah, the number is famous to them. I even have
- 52:26Speaker 3: a neighbor who's a huge Chiefs fan, and they have
- 52:29Speaker 3: it lit up in neon in their window. In their window?
- 52:33Speaker 3: That's aggressive.
- 52:35Speaker 1: I didn't know they branded themselves as that. They ranked
- 52:39Speaker 1: the atmospheres at all 30 NFL stadiums based on architectural acoustics,
- 52:43Speaker 1: sustained crowd baseline noise, peak event noise, and operational design
- 52:47Speaker 1: within the stadium. So this is scientific. All the data
- 52:50Speaker 1: was analyzed, and these are the loudest stadiums in the NFL.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Number one, Kansas City.
- 52:55Speaker 3: There you go.
- 52:56Speaker 1: 97 out of 100. Number two makes sense as well.
- 52:58Speaker 1: If I say that, what do you think?
- 52:59Speaker 3: Seattle.
- 53:00Speaker 1: Correct.
- 53:01Speaker 3: Why did you say that?
- 53:02Speaker 1: 12th Man.
- 53:03Speaker 6: Yeah, 12th Man. They're known for it. They're architecturally made
- 53:05Speaker 6: for that.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 53:08Speaker 1: So the rest, though, are just kind of a crapshoot.
- 53:10Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't make it.
- 53:11Speaker 3: No, man, I've been there. There's no energy in that stadium.
- 53:14Speaker 1: I was next to somebody and they were screaming really
- 53:16Speaker 1: loud and I couldn't even hear them. That's how bad
- 53:18Speaker 1: the engineering was. They were right next to me going, ah!
- 53:22Speaker 1: Their mouth was open.
- 53:24Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 53:25Speaker 1: Is everything okay?
- 53:26Speaker 3: No, I have a theory. I think people spend so
- 53:28Speaker 3: much on those tickets that they're pissed when they sit
- 53:30Speaker 3: in the seats.
- 53:32Speaker 1: They're just angry.
- 53:33Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, why am I happy?
- 53:35Speaker 1: The Saints at three.
- 53:36Speaker 6: Okay.
- 53:37Speaker 1: The Vikings and the Bills, I'm assuming the new stadium,
- 53:39Speaker 1: but I don't know if they have enough data. No.
- 53:43Speaker 3: That's true because it's brand new. The Vikings does seem
- 53:45Speaker 3: like it gets crazy when they blow that.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Detroit is also on that list there.
- 53:50Speaker 6: That was a good horn, dude.
- 53:51Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 53:52Speaker 1: Cowboys this weekend?
- 53:53Speaker 3: Yeah, we're playing the Commanders at home at 3 o'clock.
- 53:56Speaker 1: You have to win.
- 53:57Speaker 3: We have to win. But you know what? It doesn't matter.
- 53:59Speaker 3: I'm going into this game kind of like, whatever. Just
- 54:02Speaker 3: see what happens. We're watching this for fun, baby. I
- 54:06Speaker 3: was telling Kevin that I did see the Cowboys did
- 54:10Speaker 3: a video where they just meshed up all the players'
- 54:14Speaker 3: press conferences after the game, and everyone had the same
- 54:17Speaker 3: kind of thing to say. Guys, relax. It's week one.
- 54:20Speaker 1: We said that to you.
- 54:22Speaker 3: I know, but it felt better when the players said it.
- 54:23Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
- 54:24Speaker 1: The clip of us that we took from the episode
- 54:25Speaker 1: earlier in the week is you going, it's over.
- 54:27Speaker 3: We're done. The season's over. I didn't say that. But
- 54:32Speaker 3: we do suck.
- 54:33Speaker 1: You did kind of say that.
- 54:34Speaker 3: After week one, what's your overview of your team? We suck.
- 54:38Speaker 1: I think the Giants might be better than you think,
- 54:40Speaker 1: than we think.
- 54:41Speaker 3: People try to say that, but we don't know that.
- 54:43Speaker 3: I think that there is no– they tried something new.
- 54:48Speaker 3: It worked out great. Now that there's going to be
- 54:50Speaker 3: film on them, like, defenses are going to stop that crap.
- 54:53Speaker 3: And then Scadaboo. Scadaboo's awesome until he goes Scadaboo and
- 54:58Speaker 3: gets hurt.
- 54:59Speaker 1: We could say that about Dak because he seems to
- 55:00Speaker 1: get hurt except for last year every year.
- 55:02Speaker 3: Correct. But Scadaboo's crazy, dude. Scadaboo's crazy. Dart's crazy. Like,
- 55:07Speaker 3: those guys are crazy.
- 55:08Speaker 1: How are you feeling about this weekend?
- 55:10Speaker 3: I'll win. W. Then we're back.
- 55:12Speaker 1: Then you go to Brazil after that.
- 55:13Speaker 3: I know. That's bizarre.
- 55:15Speaker 1: And I think it's Cowboys and Ravens. Week three in, like, Brazil.
- 55:23Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, Mike. That's not good for us.
- 55:25Speaker 1: But you got to get to two. You got to
- 55:26Speaker 1: get to two. Well, it's at least one win.
- 55:28Speaker 3: Yeah, guaranteed one win.
- 55:29Speaker 1: Yeah. But, yeah, you have to win the commander. You
- 55:32Speaker 1: can't lose two in division games.
- 55:34Speaker 3: How do we start with two division games?
- 55:38Speaker 1: Everybody's team. Let's go around real quick. It doesn't matter
- 55:39Speaker 1: if it's NFL or college. Kevin?
- 55:42Speaker 6: Yeah, we got the Steelers at home, which I feel
- 55:45Speaker 6: pretty good about. But it's also the Steelers that, I
- 55:49Speaker 6: don't know, somehow they squeak out these wins. I'm not
- 55:50Speaker 6: worried about Rodgers because he's old and he can't even
- 55:52Speaker 6: throw the ball. But their defense against our offensive line
- 55:55Speaker 6: is what scares me the most, I think.
- 55:57Speaker 1: You say they spent the most money? That graphic that
- 55:58Speaker 1: came up in the Steelers game last week? No. Defensively,
- 56:01Speaker 1: they've spent more money on the defense than any other team.
- 56:03Speaker 6: Really? I did not see that.
- 56:04Speaker 1: A lot of that's rooted in J.J. Watt, but they
- 56:07Speaker 1: have spent the most money.
- 56:08Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're solid. I mean, it's not like a
- 56:11Speaker 6: Houston defense that we think is going to be, or
- 56:13Speaker 6: even Seattle, but after watching what Seattle did to our
- 56:16Speaker 6: O-line in Week 1 and kind of rattled Drake May,
- 56:18Speaker 6: I'm a little bit worried now.
- 56:20Speaker 3: Did you watch the Steelers play last week?
- 56:22Speaker 1: Yes. I did. It was hard to watch.
- 56:24Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but Rodgers didn't look terrible. I know
- 56:30Speaker 3: we expect him to be 50 years old or whatever.
- 56:33Speaker 3: The arm is weak, but the accuracy was there. He
- 56:36Speaker 3: even ran a little bit. Surprising. He didn't get sacked.
- 56:39Speaker 3: He got out of.
- 56:39Speaker 1: Sacks a little bit. You think his arm is weak?
- 56:42Speaker 3: I don't think his arm is weak.
- 56:43Speaker 1: No, that's what he just said. I still feel like
- 56:45Speaker 1: he has a good arm compared to other quarterbacks. Do
- 56:50Speaker 1: you think his arm is weak? Am I missing something?
- 56:53Speaker 6: Did I say weak?
- 56:53Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, he's getting old. Arm is weak.
- 56:56Speaker 3: Did you not say that?
- 56:56Speaker 6: I think I just said he's getting old, but it's
- 56:58Speaker 6: definitely not what it was, but I also just think
- 57:00Speaker 6: he's scared to get hit more than anything. It seems
- 57:02Speaker 6: like when he's back there, and a lot of his
- 57:04Speaker 6: passes are just very short dink and dunks, and then
- 57:07Speaker 6: DK Metcalf dropped like three passes last week, so I
- 57:09Speaker 6: was like, okay.
- 57:10Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh game was weird, though, because they were playing Atlanta,
- 57:13Speaker 1: and Atlanta blows, and they were playing with Cooper Rush,
- 57:15Speaker 1: who they didn't even think was going to start. And
- 57:17Speaker 1: Atlanta could have won. Yeah.
- 57:19Speaker 6: Yeah, they should have won, really, but yeah, five and
- 57:22Speaker 6: a half point favorite, so Obviously Vegas thinks we should win,
- 57:25Speaker 6: and I think we should win.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Mike, what's Texas doing? We have UTSA at home.
- 57:29Speaker 3: Oh, that's easy.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Should be easy.
- 57:33Speaker 3: Good for you. Man, I remember back in the day
- 57:35Speaker 3: Sam Houston State was playing Texas, and I got all
- 57:37Speaker 3: excited and I went. Not only did we score a touchdown,
- 57:40Speaker 3: I think they scored 70 on us. But I still
- 57:43Speaker 3: had fun.
- 57:44Speaker 1: I got an email from Arkansas Football going, hey, do
- 57:47Speaker 1: you want sideline passes for the Georgia game? I do not.
- 57:52Speaker 1: We have Morg down there.
- 57:54Speaker 6: Bring Kane.
- 57:55Speaker 3: But the school's excited, right? The school's excited. About what?
- 57:59Speaker 3: About playing Georgia. I mean, because that's, you know.
- 58:02Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's excited about playing Georgia, especially this
- 58:04Speaker 1: early after two bad losses.
- 58:05Speaker 3: I understand. You're probably not going to win.
- 58:07Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's excited. The school, dead people that
- 58:10Speaker 1: went to school.
- 58:12Speaker 6: What is the stadium like for a game like that?
- 58:14Speaker 1: It'll be like half empty.
- 58:16Speaker 6: Half, okay.
- 58:17Speaker 3: Really?
- 58:17Speaker 6: Probably.
- 58:18Speaker 3: Dang.
- 58:20Speaker 1: We haven't won a game in two years. Like, we've
- 58:23Speaker 1: won FCS games. We've won no FBS game in basically
- 58:25Speaker 1: two years.
- 58:26Speaker 3: Okay, but like the first two games, were they half empty?
- 58:29Speaker 1: The first game was three quarters away full. Second game,
- 58:32Speaker 1: we went to Utah.
- 58:33Speaker 3: Oh, that's true. They weren't there. Damn, that's crazy, man.
- 58:37Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like they were just wanting me
- 58:38Speaker 1: on the sideline to get bodies in the stadium.
- 58:40Speaker 3: Yeah. Giving away tickets.
- 58:41Speaker 1: You know how they do, there was a funny graphic,
- 58:43Speaker 1: you know how they do like stripe outs, and they'll
- 58:44Speaker 1: be like red section, white section. Yeah. Someone had posted
- 58:47Speaker 1: one that said, stadium empty out.
- 58:49Speaker 3: Okay. Nailed it. Good job, guys.
- 58:53Speaker 1: It's easy to do. Eddie, your team, Cowboys?
- 58:57Speaker 3: Cowboys. We have the Commanders. We just talked about it,
- 58:59Speaker 3: and we need a win. So hopefully we see a
- 59:01Speaker 3: different Cowboys team this week. Hopefully the defense went into
- 59:05Speaker 3: the room and just figured stuff out because that was
- 59:09Speaker 3: not good.
- 59:10Speaker 1: Well and arkansas will go beat georgia the weird thing
- 59:12Speaker 1: about that game is arkansas is only like a 24
- 59:14Speaker 1: and a half point underdog which feels way low i
- 59:19Speaker 1: never bet against arkansas i'm not going to now i
- 59:21Speaker 1: never will I don't know how you just don't see
- 59:25Speaker 1: free money right there, if that's what it is.
- 59:27Speaker 3: I know.
- 59:27Speaker 1: That's the freest money of all time.
- 59:29Speaker 6: I'll do it for you.
- 59:30Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say. Hey, dude, you
- 59:32Speaker 3: don't do it, we'll do.
- 59:33Speaker 6: It for you.
- 59:34Speaker 1: If that's what it is still.
- 59:35Speaker 6: We got your back.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Let me look before we.
- 59:38Speaker 6: Hey, you give us sideline passes and we'll make the.
- 59:40Speaker 3: Best of it. Honestly, dude, I thought it'd be like
- 59:42Speaker 3: in the 40s.
- 59:43Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
- 59:44Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Me too. Let me look, though, because it could have
- 59:47Speaker 1: changed or I could have read that wrong.
- 59:50Speaker 3: That is terrible.
- 59:52Speaker 2: 24 and a half.
- 59:54Speaker 1: All right. Arkansas plus 24 and a half. There's no
- 59:55Speaker 1: such thing as free money, but have some of this
- 59:59Speaker 1: easily attained currency.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: It's not free. You got to place a bet.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: Nothing's free. There's no guarantee in life. Oh, my God.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: If we only lost by 24. That'd be awesome.
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: Well, you'd want to win, but if you lose.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: If we only lost by 24. You'd be happy? Moral victory.
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: Will you watch it?
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: Oh, of course.
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: And I'll be in Vegas.
- 1:00:22Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, that's right.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: But I'll still be watching it. Of course. I don't miss.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: And if it's bad, I punish myself by watching the
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: whole game. Oh, boy.
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: The whole game.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Thank you guys. Thanks to Deshaun
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Jackson for coming on and Kevin and Nettie and Mike
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