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3 Guys Before The Game - Holiday Potpourri (Episode 604) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome in. It is a time for three
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  Speaker 1: guys before the game. Everyone has made it through Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully you had a wonderful, wonderful time with your family,
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  Speaker 1: your friends. Things didn't get too tense. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: stay around to too much too you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know they just after a while you check your watch.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, hey, hey, time's moving fast. But anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: hope you catch yeah, I hope you had a great,
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  Speaker 1: great Christmas season. We're in between. This is a great
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  Speaker 1: period of time. I love these days between Christmas, and
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  Speaker 1: it's super weird love it just kind of crazy. It's
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  Speaker 1: like this this week that it's like a black hole
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  Speaker 1: of a week.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't exist, no no a day it is where
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  Speaker 2: anybody is just it just games on constantly at weird times.
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome. Absolutely. So what we're gonna do is we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna call this episode, which is number six oh four,
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  Speaker 1: Holiday pot Poiri, Holiday Pop Prix. Just got a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: It's the leftovers, right, not really leftovers. It's new things,
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  Speaker 1: old things, things that have happened since we got together.
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  Speaker 1: You know what they say, Brad, just stuff. It's just stuff,
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  Speaker 1: Wendel palm tune with the he he just sent several
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  Speaker 1: of the elves and said, get in there and take
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  Speaker 1: some l's on some lou Wendell pondtoons. Guys brought to
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  Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have come together on
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  Speaker 1: this date as the official preview for the West Virginia
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  Speaker 1: Kansas basketball game, which will take place next Tuesday inside
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  Speaker 1: Alan Fieldhouse. It will mark the opening game of the
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  Speaker 1: Big Twelve Conference season four. West Virginia and KU first
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  Speaker 1: league games start on Monday, and you're thirteen in the conference.
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  Speaker 1: Year one for Darren Dvrees and West Virginia will go
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  Speaker 1: into this obviously undermanned. Tucker Devirees remains out, Jaden Stone
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  Speaker 1: remains out. And so you've got a nine and two
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  Speaker 1: start to this season. But things are going to get really,
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  Speaker 1: really difficult quickly. I guess I just started my own
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  Speaker 1: Tony's obvious observation in my zone. I took one from
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  Speaker 1: Hopey there Brad saying things are going to get hard.
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  Speaker 1: They are. Yeah, last night on sports Line, Hopey a
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  Speaker 1: program that you do not listen to? How do you know?
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  Speaker 1: We know? Maybe because I asked you before we started recording, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: did you listen to the show last night? I was busy.
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  Speaker 3: I was working for Bull Season Radio at the time,
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  Speaker 3: so we were talking about honey.
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  Speaker 2: CoV was maybe, no, you aren't, because I worked for
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  Speaker 2: ball Season Radio two and I was here doing the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good point.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, games shows sports Line.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like whatever my point last night on the show.
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  Speaker 1: In case you did miss it, it is available on
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  Speaker 1: podcast for anyway, So this is the thirteenth year, which
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  Speaker 1: means we've played twelve in the league. We're one oh
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  Speaker 1: one and one fourteen all time in Big twelve regular
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  Speaker 1: season games, one oh one and one fourteen, so you're
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  Speaker 1: under five hundred all time. And league play, you're sixty
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  Speaker 1: six and forty two at home. You divide the forty
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  Speaker 1: two losses by twelve years, so you're averaging about three
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  Speaker 1: and a half losses at home in league play. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty good out of your's nine games. And on the
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  Speaker 1: road not so good. Thirty five and seventy two, which
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  Speaker 1: means you're only winning an average of three road games
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  Speaker 1: a year in the conference. And how about this one,
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  Speaker 1: This was the one that stunned Brad. Stunned him. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you he almost fell off of his seat. Three
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  Speaker 1: times in the last six years. West Virginia went oh
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  Speaker 1: to nine on the road in the Big twelve ooh
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  Speaker 1: three times in the last six years. Two of those
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  Speaker 1: six when they didn't go oh to nine, they went
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  Speaker 1: two and seven COVID year they were six and two
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  Speaker 1: on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Obvious obsvation. You need to win your home games and
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  Speaker 3: do better on the road. Thanks for being with us
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  Speaker 3: have a great.
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  Speaker 1: Day, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So this year road Kansas, thanks for the start on there, Colorado, Houston,
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  Speaker 2: k State, which we'll talk about them. They might be
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  Speaker 2: having a little issue there, do you mean, Well, they're
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  Speaker 2: struggling right now. Six and five coming out of non conference.
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  Speaker 2: They had a big payroll. They went out and got
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  Speaker 2: some dudes. They have not gailed yet. So KSE State
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  Speaker 2: on the road, Cincinnata on the road. They've started hot
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  Speaker 2: ten and one.
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  Speaker 1: They're good, TCU Away.
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  Speaker 2: From Home, Baylor, Texas Tech and then the BYU Utah Swing.
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  Speaker 2: So you can see why road records are a challenge,
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  Speaker 2: a road winds or a challenge to come by.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting what Darren Davrez said about
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  Speaker 3: beginning Big twelve. Play Brad, what is Divirees known to
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  Speaker 3: run good stuff?
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  Speaker 1: And he said, you know, we haven't run all our stuff. You, Oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: they have not. I got a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, Brad, you're an observer of stuff. So
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  Speaker 3: keep an eye out here as they start the Big
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  Speaker 3: twelve schedule of new stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that last episode. There's some things
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  Speaker 2: there to mix in, you know, Javon Small give him
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  Speaker 2: some different looks, so you just can't tell exactly where
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  Speaker 2: he is. Try and get him the ball in different spots.
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  Speaker 2: As we say sometimes on the football side of things.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to spill the beans, but there's four
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  Speaker 1: plays that he's going to run right out of Hoosiers
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  Speaker 1: double pick, double picket, fence.
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  Speaker 3: Picket fits. You know he's leading the league in scoring. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: hard to do.
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  Speaker 1: I was good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to compete with space on statue. But
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  Speaker 3: I was looking at the stats this morning, I thought, wait, cow,
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  Speaker 3: how about leading the league twenty a game?
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  Speaker 1: How about this one? If if he were to if
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  Speaker 1: the season were to stop today, that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: harder for him to score. But if the season were
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  Speaker 1: to stop for him today, that would be the twenty
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  Speaker 1: second best single season scoring average in school history. And
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  Speaker 1: only three guys have scored nineteen or more points for
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  Speaker 1: the season per game this century. Kevin Jones, Drew Schaffino,
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  Speaker 1: and Kevin Pittsnagle each were nineteen or better for the season.
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  Speaker 1: And you know who's the all time leading single season
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  Speaker 1: scoring average king in West Virginia basketball history. Who? And
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  Speaker 1: this is by less than half of a point, but
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  Speaker 1: Will Robinson oh yeah, he averaged a whisker under thirty
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry was like a twenty nine point five thirty
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  Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: And also you know that West Virginia, naturally, as we
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  Speaker 3: expect it leads the league in blocks. I mean that's
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  Speaker 3: that was a given.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, twelfth nationally this this start for no, it's not,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just we've probably still under talked about this
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  Speaker 2: start for West Virginia with a completely remade roster going
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  Speaker 2: into one of the two most difficult COLT Thanksgiving tournaments,
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  Speaker 2: walking out of there with two wins, including the one
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  Speaker 2: over at the time number three Gonzagar. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is an unbelievable start. Twenty six nationally in defensive efficiency
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  Speaker 2: to this point, eighth in effective field goal percentage defense
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  Speaker 2: and keep going thirty first and three point percentage defense
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  Speaker 2: eighth and two point percentage defense. That tells you how
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  Speaker 2: good this team guards without a true rim protector. To
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  Speaker 2: be top ten and two point field goal percentage for
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  Speaker 2: your opponents, pretty remarkable, shooting free throws really well, top
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  Speaker 2: one hundred in offensive efficiency for a team that's trying
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  Speaker 2: to put new lineups together. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: for eleven so what almost a quarter of those games,
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  Speaker 2: you're missing what could be considered your first or at
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  Speaker 2: very least second best player in Tucker Devrees, a pro. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and you've still been able to put this together. You
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  Speaker 2: can match last year's win total just in the non
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  Speaker 2: conference portion. Unbelievable start.
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  Speaker 1: The encouraging statistic going into the league is the defense,
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  Speaker 1: because that is something that you can control. Right. Shots
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  Speaker 1: are gonna hit the rim or not hit the rim,
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  Speaker 1: and they're gonna go off some days, but you can
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  Speaker 1: always guard at a really high level. That's encouraging. Now,
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  Speaker 1: scoring points going forward is going to be a very
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  Speaker 1: big challenge consistently without Tucker Devrees being on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: But at least your defense is gonna give you a
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  Speaker 1: puncher's chance night in and night out.
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  Speaker 3: But is also as the other defense, the defense, the
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  Speaker 3: other team figure out ways to try to slow Javon Small,
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  Speaker 3: so they're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Jump, then what they're gonna jump the You're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to have some guys. Yeah, that becomes your question. Like
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  Speaker 1: Toby o'cannie is going to have to score, Amani Hansbury
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  Speaker 1: is gonna have to score, Jonathan Powell is going to
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  Speaker 1: have to come off the bench. He's gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: produce points. Those are your guys are they can't They
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  Speaker 1: can ill afford not being productive. If you have two
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  Speaker 1: of those guys not having good nights, gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: long night every night.
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  Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun to watch. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 2: watch these guys. To to our point there, Darren. Darren
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  Speaker 2: brings new stuff each game, so there's gonna be different
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  Speaker 2: ways to try and get people to score. And this
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  Speaker 2: is this is just a fun league, man, Let's play.
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  Speaker 2: And there's some teams, as there always is. There's teams
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  Speaker 2: that shake out in different ways than what you predicted
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. We've already seen that
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  Speaker 2: for a couple league opponents. So go and take your swings.
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  Speaker 1: So one of Darren's big words is connectivity. So the
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  Speaker 1: teams that disconnect are the teams that will eventually not
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  Speaker 1: meet what were preseason expectations. So how close can you
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  Speaker 1: stay together? Once you hit you're gonna get hit by
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  Speaker 1: a couple of waves coming at your boom. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get knocked back, like do you blow up and break apart?
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  Speaker 1: The teams that just kind of keep going like okay,
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  Speaker 1: just get back, just keep pushing. There's a there's a
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  Speaker 1: team or two already in this league that you could
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  Speaker 1: see that have has some one of those little small
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  Speaker 1: cracks before, Like the whole thing comes from thank you
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  Speaker 1: very good, a good hobby. Not the fisher from lu
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  Speaker 1: Wendel Marine Sales that sits on those G three boats,
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  Speaker 1: but a different type of fisher, fishers.
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  Speaker 2: Fission.
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  Speaker 1: You get some cracks. You can see a couple of
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  Speaker 1: these teams right now they've showing correct. You might not
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  Speaker 1: know if they're going to break apart, but eventually they
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  Speaker 1: might just start.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only two teams in this league as of now,
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  Speaker 2: and I know non conference are sometimes different strength of schedules.
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  Speaker 2: Here only two teams lower or worse than ninety fourth
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  Speaker 2: in defensive efficiency. Everybody else is basically top ninety yeah
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  Speaker 2: in defensive efficiency, and one, two, three, three of those
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  Speaker 2: are top ten.
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  Speaker 1: You want to another basketball term, hopy, like guy runs
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  Speaker 1: good stuff. Then the other side of that is, well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think they guard? That's a big basketball
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  Speaker 1: one too they guard?
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  Speaker 3: And how how do you recover? Because you didn't have to,
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  Speaker 3: you had your two losses were spread apart. When you
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  Speaker 3: hit a rough patch. How do you recover mentally?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Ken Palm has West Virginia projected for nine
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  Speaker 2: conference wins. I might take that right now. You're an
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  Speaker 2: NCAA tournament team. If you do that, oh, absolutely win
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  Speaker 2: nine conference games. You're in the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Cal Ken, tell him to send it over as an
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  Speaker 1: affidavid in a PDF form. I'll electronically sign that for him.
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  Speaker 1: If he doesn't want to mind, yeah, I'll take care
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  Speaker 1: of that. Time. Now, Ladies and gentlemen, for Hoppies obvious observations.
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  Speaker 1: These are observations that are distilled over a period of time.
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  Speaker 1: They enter into Hoppies brain and then he just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like lets them seep through like a great tea
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  Speaker 1: and eventually you get the gold. And here it is,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Hoppies obvious operations.
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  Speaker 3: More like a leaky faucet, I think, is what better
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  Speaker 3: metaphors and Rusty want. As you may or may not know,
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  Speaker 3: Brandon and I are part of the Boldseason Radio network
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  Speaker 3: put together by associates of this and so we produce
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  Speaker 3: and distribute various bowl games, not the major bowl games,
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  Speaker 3: but what we call the lesser Bowl games. That's really
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  Speaker 3: My issue here is the Olympic Bowl games. These are
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  Speaker 3: the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do the Olympic? You do the Olympic?
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  Speaker 2: You need to call them lesser bowl games.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but I'm going there. Just let me finish.
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  Speaker 3: The thought is that these are underappreciated games and they
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  Speaker 3: they tend to be viewed with this generalization of all
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  Speaker 3: their lesser bowls.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, they're the who gives a you know what? Bowl? Who?
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  Speaker 3: Who isn't playing in these games? And it's an unfair
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  Speaker 3: generalization about these bowl games. Yesterday, the three Bowl games,
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  Speaker 3: two of them were broadcast on Bolseason Radio. The three
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  Speaker 3: Bowl games were more entertaining by far than the first
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  Speaker 3: round of the twelve team playoff.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'll give you an amen from
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  Speaker 1: the congregation.
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  Speaker 3: All three yesterday, Pittal, we'll talk about that K State
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  Speaker 3: Rutgers bowling Green Arkansas State.
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  Speaker 1: The pit game, as we all.
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  Speaker 3: Know now, six overtimes, and Brad did did Toledo think
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  Speaker 3: they won the game in overtime?
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  Speaker 1: Like three times?
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  Speaker 2: Toledo was so excited they charged the field three different times,
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  Speaker 2: their sideline empty, thinking they had won. Yeah, fired up.
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  Speaker 1: I heard their radio call from the Toledo broadcast. When
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  Speaker 1: they actually won the game, they didn't even celebrate because
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  Speaker 1: the guy was going like, are there any flags down?
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  Speaker 1: Like he literally he literally wasn't sure. He couldn't even
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  Speaker 1: give it a good call at the end. Six over it.
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  Speaker 3: It was the most overtimes in any bowl game ever ever,
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  Speaker 3: I mean talk about entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: It was incredible, but.
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  Speaker 2: Only just that's a recent record there, because the previous
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  Speaker 2: record was set on Christmas Eve, right just two days
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  Speaker 2: earlier in.
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  Speaker 3: The Hawaii Bowl went to five overtimes. So that was
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  Speaker 3: that was wildly entertaining, wildly entertaining. And then the Case
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  Speaker 3: State game and KSE State is down two score seven
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  Speaker 3: minutes to go against against the Rutgers and KSE State
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  Speaker 3: comes back wins the game. Dylan Edwards sets a rushing
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  Speaker 3: record for k State almost two hundred yards. It was
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  Speaker 3: their biggest comeback in four years. That was a highly
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  Speaker 3: entertaining game, big score.
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  Speaker 1: And then it was thirty four to seventeen. It was
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  Speaker 1: thirty four to seventeen, and we're home. I'm home, and
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  Speaker 1: the boys are there. Two of the boys there, the twins,
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  Speaker 1: and they you know, they they're not old enough to
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  Speaker 1: really fully appreciate Rutgers, and so it's thirty four to seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I literally said to them, I just caught a glimpse
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  Speaker 1: of a Kansas State play and I said, you know
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  Speaker 1: what they got all bounce him. It's thirty four to seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I said, Yo, I'm making a prediction right now. Rutger loses.
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  Speaker 1: I said, mark it down, Rutger loses. I'm just telling
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  Speaker 1: you right now. And they kind of gave me the look.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then Kane's k State scored. Now, but
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  Speaker 1: here we go, here we go, here we go. And
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  Speaker 1: then they won, and I said, all right, what did
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  Speaker 1: I say? And all I gotta do is I sent
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  Speaker 1: him a text and all I said.
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  Speaker 3: Was Uckers, Yeah, very entertaining. Then Bowling Green Arkansas State.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm not going to mention anyone in particular, but
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  Speaker 3: his initials are being kerchiefle And I was talking to
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  Speaker 3: him about last night. I said, goo gooing me to
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  Speaker 3: do the Bowling Green Arkansas State game. He gave me
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  Speaker 3: a big sigh, okay whatever. And that game was wildly
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  Speaker 3: entertaining as well. I mean, Bowling Green's backup quarterback sneaks
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  Speaker 3: in as the punter.
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  Speaker 2: Brad, what's he do fake punt through the best pass
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  Speaker 2: ever from a punter, touchdown, touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Arkansas State wins the game thirty eight thirty one. Brad
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  Speaker 3: did Harold Fannin junior the tied end for bowling green
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  Speaker 3: did he have a game one of the best games
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  Speaker 3: history of the sport. Seventeen catches two thirteen in a
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  Speaker 3: touchdowxcuse me how many catches?
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  Speaker 2: Seventeen which if you happen to play, if you happen
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  Speaker 2: to dabble in the player markets, over eleven and a
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  Speaker 2: half for Fannin would have been a great play. He
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  Speaker 2: needed twelve catches to break the single season record by
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  Speaker 2: a tight end for most receptions. They were going to
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  Speaker 2: get the dude the ball. He had eleven catches in
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  Speaker 2: the first half. He only needed eleven yards to break
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  Speaker 2: the all time single season receiving record by a tight end.
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  Speaker 2: That if you're listening to this podcast, you'll remember this name.
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  Speaker 2: You probably have PTSD from him. Gentleman by the name
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  Speaker 2: of Jaysamorrow got half his yards against West Virginia, maybe
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  Speaker 2: three quarters in that one game against West Virginia. So
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  Speaker 2: Harold Fannin junior.
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  Speaker 3: Fannin he was targeted Tony twenty two times, targeted twenty
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  Speaker 3: two times. So yeah, and Brad talked about the records.
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  Speaker 3: That was a thirty eight to thirty one final. And
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I saw the postgame celebrations the young men with the trophies, Brad.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: They seemed very overjoyed to hoist the trophy.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, to be the champion of games.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So that's why I think that that these games and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: sum are blowouts. I get it, But but yesterday A
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: was a wildly entertaining great day of college football.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: I do think it shows us this too for football fans,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: if you just sit and want some entertainment and you
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: want to watch games, I think what it does. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: we've said this a lot. With all the nonsense that
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: happens outside of the field of play, I know it
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: can get exhausting. I know it can get where you
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: want to throw your hands up and say my god.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: But the games still deliver, guys, Yes, the games, the
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: actual games themselves still deliver. Even when there's ten guys
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, multiple guys have opted out. You're
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: playing with backup quarterbacks pitting into that game with their
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: third and four string quarterbacks. Who actually the four guys
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can take some plays dugger. So it just shows us
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: again get to the actual game action, the on field,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the on court action, and it's still there's still nothing
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: like live sports.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, and you are your best
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: point on it. Of all that was the fact that
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: those games were all more entertaining yesterday than the college
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: football playoff. Now, those college football payoff games will get good,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but that opening round was an absolute snooze.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I thought that happened. But that's also live sports. Sometimes
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowls a snoozefest. Sometimes there as sweeps in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the World Series, so that's just part of the deal.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Everybody gnashes their teeth over three or four games to
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: start it. You know what's great about the playoff, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you know what we should be excited about is West
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Virginia fans. What's great about the playoff? You have entry
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: into it. We're not debating two teams, we're not worried
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: about four teams. It's an expanded field. And if the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: blowouts are the cost of an expanded field, okay, so
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: be it. But that's also year one. There's going to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: be some years when we're in here talking about how
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: great those games are.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Agreed, it's harder.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: It's going to be harder though for a Cinderella to
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: make it through the playoffs. But still, yeah, I mean
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you can't judge it. It's unfair to judge it by
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: by one by one round of the playoffs. But I
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: just wanted to rise in defense of these Bowl games
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: which gets which get unfairly dennegrated and yeah, I mean, look,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: guys still play and you see some amazing performances. I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: how many how many plays, Brad, have we seen so
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: far we go? Is that guy available again?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm over here, put that young man's name in the poor.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Three games yesterday decided by total of twelve points. Now
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: as we record on Friday, five games today, eight coming
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: up Saturday, might be the most Bowl games in the
• 20:23
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• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma plays at noon today against the Navy. Yeah, strap
• 20:32
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• 20:34
  Speaker 2: They will go into battle with fifty six available scholarship players.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So somebody else pointed out there, so they're going in
• 20:41
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• 20:45
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  Speaker 1: So it will be The Mountaineer Basketballers opening up Big
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: twelve play on Tuesday afternoon, New Year's Eve afternoon against
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the Kansas Jayhawks. What do you say we do a
• 22:36
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• 22:40
  Speaker 2: We'll just go right to the numbers. There comes a.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Year to jump into the analytics worship of the show. Ready,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: So how good are these numbers? Since these aren't league games,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're just gonna how you feel about them?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Are pretty good.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: We do have eleven data points to go through. It
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: said to almost be an entire football season. Think about that.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: You feel like you're just getting started with basketball. Eleven
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: data points is nearly the entire regular season for football.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: What's the computer think of by the way spreads on
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• 23:14
  Speaker 1: strength of schedule been like? Because they will take on
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: some big boys Kansas.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they played Gonzagger didn't he know who they played?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Somebody? They play? Creighton ran, uh, Creighton ran Kansas, and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: but they've already played Duke the Jayhawks have. They don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: run away from too many people. They'll go in there,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: stick their faces on it. Play the They played the Arkansas.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: That was a scrimmage.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, they played the Arkansas. That was a
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: big deal.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Their losses are to Creighton on the road and Missouri
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: on the road back to back games. There are only
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: two losses.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Missouri would shed at them on that Sunday afternoon game.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Ended up ended up just nine points. But they were
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: up big in that game. Yeah, yeah, Missouri was. Both
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: of those opponents were lying in wait as it were.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So, how do you want me to ask you this?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: When we get into this, you want me to say, Okay,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: what are the keys? What do we need to know?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: What do you want to do?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Let's just meander through some stuff. Here's something that jumped
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: out to me in my research, you know threes are
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: worth more than twos?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Did you know that? Heard it? Yep?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: So these two teams are polar opposites and how they
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: approach offense. At this point, West Virginia is near the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: top nationally and three point attempt rate. Nearly fifty percent
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: of West Virginia's shots are threes forty eight percent, to
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: be exact, that's twenty sixth nationally. So if West Virginia
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: is making shots, they're going to have a chance to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: win some games. If they go cold, that's when it's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: going to get difficult. They're relying a lot on the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: three and it's working. Kansas is at the other end
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: of this spectrum. Only thirty four percent of its shots
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: are threes. Bottom sixty teams. So that tells you a
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: couple of things. You've got to make some shots, which
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: always becomes a challenge when you're on the road. Number one,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: But number two, can you force them to take some threes.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: This is a pack the lane, which Westforrdin likes to do. Anyway,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: pack it in, try and shut down some penetration and
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: see if they can hit some shots. And you hope
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they're cold from the outside, and then your threes are
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: going if they happen to get some twos on you,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: but you're making shots, those threes versus twos may have
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: an advantage. Kansas wants to get to the rim. Thirty
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: five percent of its shots are at the rim, which
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: is top twenty percent nationally if the season were to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: end today. Part of that's because of seven to two
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Hunter Dickinson. Part of it's because Kansas Tony has returned
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit to what they've always been. They want
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to get downhill and attack you and get to the glass.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So West Virginia's defense is going to be critical. This
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: is another one, and I'll probably say this every game
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: going in, but especially with a Kansas team that won't
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: just stand around the ark and shoot threes. They'll want
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to attack and get into your body. The style of
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: officiating is going to matter, which I know makes people
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: throw up in their when you're getting ready to head
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to Allen Field House.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: No, you normally get a good whistle. Yeah, that's going
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to matter. That's going to matter.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Here's something that surprised me or that we have to
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: watch because nobody's been able to do it to a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: high level consistently against Kansas, KU opponents have not made
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: them pay for their live ball turnovers. Teams are scoring
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: less than one point per possession on a live ball turnover,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and opponents are shooting just twenty six percent from three
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: off live ball turnovers. I bring that up for this reason, hobby.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: West Virginia has been elite in this area. If the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: season ended today, West Virginia's in the top one percent
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: nationally with one point three points per possession off a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: live ball turnover, so almost twice what Kansas opponents have
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: been doing. West Virginia is still blistering hot from three
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: in live ball turnover situations, shooting better than fifty percent.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: So if you figure Wes for Didny's going to have
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to make some threes, and they've been very good at
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: cashing in live ball turnovers. Can you force some of
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: those get down the floor before Kansas's defense sets itself
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: up and get some shots West Frydinnan's been making a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: living off that in these first eleven games. That's one
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of the I think again, you can rewind the tape
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: to last year. I'm sure I said this last year.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Going in the Kansas game. I think an underrated aspect
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of this Kansas program because they've had so many elite
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: talent guys. You know, their offense is always so overwhelming, right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and the level of top NBA picks they have always
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: overwhelms you. Their defense is consistently good. I think they
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: guard as well as anybody in the country for teams
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that have elite players. They're eighth right now in defensive
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: efficiency given that schedule they've played. So you're going to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: have to find a way to get shots. You're going
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to have to execute and then you're gonna have to
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: shoot it well. But that's an area if you can
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: get some turnovers. Now, they protect it pretty well. Not elite,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but they protect it pretty well. If you can force
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: some turnovers, get out in transition, gets some buckets and
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: preferably some threes like you've been doing. I like that
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: For West Virginia. The environment's going to be a big factor.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: First time in there.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Students won't be there though, right, because that makes it
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: different in zero zero really no, okay zero different. It
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: will be absolutely jam packed. There's never an there's never
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: an empty seat.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm went back and watch them against Brown from Sunday
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: students are und break packed. I mean there yeah, there's
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: no tickets. They're just there's just there's just not tickets.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Here's me.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I want to go ahead, and then I got one more.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: It's like a religion. Really, it's a big I mean
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: it's a religious experience for those people. It's just like
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: they it's like they're going to church. It's like there's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a game. Is like it doesn't matter who the opponent is,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Like we're going, okay, you was playing basketball. It doesn't matter.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Fortunately, given that environment, Fortunately it does not affect how
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the game is called.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And that's really important. It's always right down you're gonna
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: walk in and see the rules. You're gonna go down
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: there and take a look at the rules.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I've seen them, but I'll probably look again.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: James N.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Smith's rules, Yeah, look at.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Him won that in the big auction auction. The actual rule,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: actual rules type? Are they the same? Well, it doesn't matter.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I mean that these are the ones that when he
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: at the YMCA went so it's a typewriter and it's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: a type.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Does it say freedom of movement on those rules? He
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: didn't include that. No, here's one speaking of the officiating style,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: watch this KU does not get to the line much. Huh.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: For as little as they shoot the three, they are
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: not getting to the free throw line much. Three hundred
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and sixtieth nationally. What do I say there is three
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: sixty four teams. Yeah, they're like bottom five and getting
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to the free throw line, so that matters. Two thousand
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and twenty eighteen are the only seasons in the last
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: twenty five years that Kansas has been ranked in the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: three hundreds in this category. So they get to line
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: a lot normally. This team, this particular version of the Jayhawks,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: is not reason.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think Hunter Dickinson gets slapped
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: around and get the line a bunch.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Not getting calls right now, So let's watch that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: That's gonna matter how many times on average, how many
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: times it gives the line.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I think just twenty times a game. I got i
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: gotta look.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: At that, taking twenty shots per.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Game, I've got to confirm that sat. They also have
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: not been elite on the offensive glass, just two hundred
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: and twenty first nationally an offensive rebounding rate.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Is that because they're making shots?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they make sense, they may. Yeah, they're pretty good
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: making shots. That's some of that. They're really good defensive rebounding,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: which okay, because that's not one of West Virginia's strengths.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Is something Darrin Devirees said they need to improve on.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: What's kem palm got the line at ten? Got ten?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: So can you make threes? Can you limit them to
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the one shot? And can you not get whistled for
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: silly fouls that put your rotations in jeopardy and therefore
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: put them on the line for a team that doesn't
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: normally get to light if you're going down to them,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: can you make them hit some outside perimeter shots on you?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Now, the foul trouble will become fatal for West Virginia.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: When you get someone in significant foul trouble now in
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the league, it will completely flip your balance of what
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you need to have on the floor over because you're
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just so short on the bench that it could it
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: could be fatal. It could be fatal if you get
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the wrong people in foul trouble. That's a two o'clock
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Eastern time. It'd be one Central, one out there Central.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: That's cool playing at that time. One two year's eve,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: that's cool.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, noon, it would be better, so
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you could definitely be home before midnight. But yeah, than that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: You remember last year West Virginia had success, especially down
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the stretch Noah Farakhan and Pat Sumnik.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I remember Pat Noah have a big day against him?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Did he well?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: He was really good where he had where he had
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a big day. He was really good in the in
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the pick and roll. They couldn't stay in front of him,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: so that'll be critical again, That's where Amani's so big
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in this game. Put Jaman, Javon and Amani in the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: pick and roll like West for he did against Gonzagar
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: early in that Atlanta's tournament. Bring Dickinson out, say, how
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: are you gonna guard us here? You want Dickinson to
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: hop out leaving Hansbury open. Can he hit a couple
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: of those threes, which really loosens that they gonna switch it?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: How are they gonna handle that? They don't want Dickinson
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: on small So if they jump, if they jump or
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: do they just hold? Do they try and handle Javon
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: one on one hands? Bread Dwan Harris, the defensive player
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: of the Year in the league last year. This is
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a really good point guard matchup. You talk about two
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: point guards that control games. Harris for Kansas, small for
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: West Virginia. This is gonna be a fun matchup on
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: those two mm hmm hands.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Very okay, Yeah, shouldn't be any issue at all. Okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: last week, I mean, like we said, the last time,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he could have gone in. He could have gone in
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: in their last game, but they just we just decided
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: not to. Dwan Harris's freshman year was Roy Williams is
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: last year at Kansas three been there for a few games,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: has he? Yeah?
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Pretty solid. You like your point guard being around multiple years.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: This is six right? Yeah? Is it six? Six? Crazy? Yeah?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Six years? Well, the game has changed a little bit
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: since then.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: He's in the top eight percent of players nationally and
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: assist right, So he'll he'll give it up.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: He's good.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: They're good, man.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, they got they got guys in Kansas. This
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: is so much how West Virginia just handles the atmosphere. Really,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you still got some young guys like you know, Sincere
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Harris has not played a ton, Amani has not played
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: a ton.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: You can't get shut up, jp kJ. I mean most
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of your rotations, younger guys.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Can't get caught up in the you can't get caught
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: up in the moment. So it is that intense. It is,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: oh absolutely on top of it. They crank it up, dude.
• 34:04
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• 34:42
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  Speaker 1: So here's a deal, perfect setup. When's the least what
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• 40:03
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• 40:16
  Speaker 1: sent Dave a text late Friday afternoon, thinking I would
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  Speaker 1: not hear from anyone until Monday. Dave responded immediately. Of course,
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• 40:34
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  Speaker 1: and who was other there? Than other than Dave himself
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: with my mountaineer munch. Today, Dave saved Christmas for my
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: out of town family. Thank you Dave for going way
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  Speaker 1: above and over any expectations. How Dave saved Christmas. That's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: what he does. He's amazing that he did us. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: go ahead, I said, I wrote back to this gentleman
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Greg from Bridgeboard, I said, he may be homeless, but
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  Speaker 1: he knows how to find other people's homes.
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  Speaker 3: He does indeed right now. What rest why he didn't
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: say is that when the guy said, wy, don't you
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  Speaker 3: come in? He goes okay, he's still there, brought the
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  Speaker 2: Not true? Can I throw one in real quick before
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• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Oh that picture Christmas.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Miracle that we got our part of it done and
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: returned in time for Christmas. This would be Dave from Martinsburg, Hoppy,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: we had you sign this here before Christmas. We have
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: a picture of Dave from Martinsburg here that is there
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: he is, look at him there he is. So that's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the wood sculpture there and we signed that Hoppy see
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: that on the left signed it.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Dave told Dave was for some reason happy with his
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Christmas gift. There poppy signed by us.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: That's the guy there that that time in Martinsburg. Came
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: up to me and said, I don't appreciate you calling
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the oppost team the enemy. Oh, because they had Oklahoma
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: had a player called B Enemy and he kept thinking
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I was calling him the enemy. I said, no, b enemy,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: big listener.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Dave's one of the great ones.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: His daughter Miranda led that charge. Jason his son in law,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Ashton grandson. So thank you to the crew. Thanks, thanks
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you for.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Put a smile on Dave's face. I'm happy. Hey, guys,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: really enjoy your show. A few comments or items for discussion.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Always love Hoppy, but doubled my love when he pulled
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: out Thomas Soul, he your economist. What was his name?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: So so s O W E L L how you
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: saying it? Soul?
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Soul Soul sol.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: This person says many need to read Thomas Soul by
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the way too. There's been a lot of discussion about
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: strength of schedule. Wren talked about data being clear to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: not play tougher non a conference. Problem with data is
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: all historical. Not sure it will remain that way going forward,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: especially for the ACC Big twelve. Harder schedule gives as
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: two ways to get to the playoff, win conference, or
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: don't win the conference, beat some good teams. Second way
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't impact the first. I think we need to keep
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: an open kind not about me wanting to play those teams,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: just focused on the playoff.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I think you start by focusing on winning games.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: The arrest will follow.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, strength the schedule is not there yet. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: mean what Ren say is right this schedule. You did
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: not need to be an outlier in schedule like you
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: have the last four or five years. We strength is
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: not going to be an outlier schedule. But what's happening
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: moving forward? The shift is on. As we've talked about
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: now for a year, the shift was coming. You knew
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: it was going to come, you knew they were going
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to push it. TV networks are now following suit that
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: have interest in the SEC. They're now pushing strength to schedule.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Right the SEC would like it to be that wins
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: don't matter anymore. They would like to continue to say
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: they have the best league. Therefore it doesn't matter if
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: our teams lose, they should still be in the playoff. So,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: to Anthony's point, moving forward to strength to schedule may
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: become a thing, but they're also going to continue to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: push conference strength to schedule. There So you've got a
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: pr battle coming. If you're the Big twelve, you better
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: dig in because ESPN and the SEC are starting that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Nick Saban's up there. Nick Saban has't talked about strength
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to schedule maybe in the twenty five years I've been
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: listening to Nick Saban. Now suddenly that's his number one
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: point every single show. That's a very SEC talking point
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: right now is to try and help get that strength
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to schedule to matter, which it never has.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Right. Hey, three guys, I'm fourteen years old, an avid
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: listener from the Parkersburg area. I greatly appreciate everything you
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: guys do for the state of West Virginia. I have
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a couple questions. Are you guys surprised with how many
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: kids entered the portal. Two, do you think we would
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: lose as many kids as we did signed by will
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: on the border.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: No, No, not surprised for a couple of reasons. One,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: that's what it is now generally, I mean players everywhere
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: into portal. And two with a coaching change, I'm actually
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: surprised so far as not more.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Neither surprised me speaking of portal since the last time
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we got on CJ. Donaldson too Ohio State.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: That's one. Thomas Remac had a nice offer from Virginia Tech.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He'll be headed to Virginia Tech with assistant Matt Moore
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: offensive line coatch. She's headed there as well.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, three guys, or in honor of the season,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: three wise men. Hoppy, you brought tears to my eyes
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: reading from Soul's Basic Economics. I think it should be
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: required reading for every high school student in West Virginia
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: onto football. I think you accurately described the conflict that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: exists for fans. I graduated high school in seventy five,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: West Virginia the only place I wanted to go my
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: first semester tuition two hundred and twenty five dollars. I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: think there are still athletes from West Virginia that think
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the same way. I wonder how much more if any
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of an out of state school would have to pay
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to convinced player not to go to WV or to
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: leave WV if they were already there. Hoppy, congratulations on
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: your retirement and your recent honor. Since you will have
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: some free time on your hands, we are planning a
• 46:04
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• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Doing a trip around the Lake Tahoe?
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Is what it sounds on Tahoe Run? Yeah? Would you
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: like to do? We'll send that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Send that to well, he hopy on. Normally he would
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: consider that. But top is the only person that announces
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: his retirement then works more so, thank you, phel but
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: he will not be able to join it. Is he working?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry? We have Bowl games that week.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And podcasts to do and probably some shows. Well I'm
• 46:37
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• 46:38
  Speaker 1: So plus he's picked up that overnight shift at gomart
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• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Somebody's got to be the face of that beer and
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: get out.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: There, Tony. Without contracts, it will always be chaos. In theory,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: every football team could lose its entire roster. So in
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: August you're all trying to install your offense and defense
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: with new players. What's the logic of the april portal?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: School's almost over? The will probably have a large say
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: in this. NASCAR priced itself out of the point fans
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: quit carrying. I was one of those go mountaineers. Well,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the April periods for those that don't have good springs,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: it still gives them an opportunity to bolt.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And coaches that don't necessarily like how their lineup shook
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: out and would like to remake the lineup. Let's not
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: forget this is this is always a two way street.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: It's not just players saying I want out. There are
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: coaches that coach. The coaches four other options. You're not
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: going to play much? You wants four other options?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, will help you.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Where would you like to It will help you because
• 47:34
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• 47:36
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• 47:39
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• 47:40
  Speaker 1: The next text is a text that I respond. So
• 47:43
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• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Sometimes that somebody didn't have a bad spring.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: They just sometimes there's incoming calls there that somebody says,
• 47:54
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• 47:56
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• 48:05
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• 48:14
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• 48:18
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• 48:21
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• 48:24
  Speaker 1: really easy for you guys and others to say this
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But to hear him say he
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: hates what it is is remarkable. To hear that no
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: coaches over fifty years old are happy. I wasn't speechless,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: but I was surprised. Trick is one hundred one percent
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: human in ninety nine percent football animal. How unfortunate for
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the sport we love. Our love of this sport is
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: being drained. If you don't feel it or acknowledge it,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: something is wrong. And your response is hi, Mike. At
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: this point, I threw up my hands and said fine.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: The game has devolved into this state because the leadership,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: school presidents, commissioners, and ads have never had the foresight
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: or the ball to grow the game. Instead, they attempted
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to use draconian philosophies to maintain complete control with no
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: respect to those who were producing the product the players.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Revenues exploded, coaches had their hands out, and the players
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: got zero. So what happened? Players said screw this and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: went to court and one and one and one, and
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: now it's professional sports with no rules and the same
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: people who screwed it up are speechless and powerless. We're
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: in a massive state of flux with the new normal
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: being defined. What that will be, I have no clue,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm not crying for the leaders who failed to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: be proactive. Thanks very much for listening to the show.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Well, what you're hearing is and I heard you know
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Trick it's Rick Tricks comments, is that it's a generational shift, right,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: because the game has changed so much in the last
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: few years. So you hear generally speaking, older coaches saying, Wow,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I don't like what it's become. I don't want to
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: be involved. Okay, that's I mean, I'm not in and
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: now younger coaches saying well, this is what it is.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: So if I want to be successful, I'm going to
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: do this. So it's a generational shift that's current.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Listen, I've said this many times. I've thought players should
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: get paid for a long time. And I've talked about
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: that for a long time. As someone that worked in
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: the industry on the early edges of when it started
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: to explode revenue wise, and as someone that was out
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: helping collect the revenue that was coming in. This went
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: to a totally different area. It just became impossible to
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: argue that the players shouldn't get a cut of that.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: It just did. I I'm of the belief I don't
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: know how you can argue that the players shouldn't be
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: included in this. When we saw what coaching salaries did
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: and the movement that coaches had and the effect that
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: had on programs, not just players, but what administrations were
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: having to do in terms of resetting your department because
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: you've put so much into coaches, There's no doubt to
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: me that this was going to come where players were
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: afforded some of those opportunities as well. I just think
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: that's inarguable at this point. Now, what I do agree with,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: is it a mess right now? Yes, it is, And
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: collectively you need to find some way to get a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: set of rules in there that people can still benefit from,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: but that there's some level of being able to have
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a program. I get where coaches are beside themselves trying
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: to keep a roster together with all that goes on.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: I understand that. I get it. I do keep saying
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the market will normalize itself, it will get to the
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: point where this will have some structure to it. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: as again, if you've listened to this show, you're tired
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of me saying this. It's really easy to talk philosophy
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: in college sports. It's very difficult to get things enacted.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: It is hard to get this many people on the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: same page to agree on one way.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: To do this.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: That's the problem or the challenge.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Agree. Hey, three guys with multiple mentions of Hudson Clement's
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: dad no longer being available for the food extravaganzas I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to let you know that I would be honored
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to fill his spot a time or six. I regularly
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: do three to four four hour sets and don't have
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: a kid on the team, so there's no threat of
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: me entering the portal. I also close every show with
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Country Roads. No matter where I am, feel free to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: catch you, to reach out if there's something that we
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: can make happen. Love the show. Carson in Carson hay
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: in Ahia and he spelled it ah hyphen hia gh
• 52:20
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• 52:24
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• 52:25
  Speaker 3: We haven't set a date yet, but we're having auditions.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: It would be like Simon Cowell. Yes, but thank you
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: for that offer. Yeah. Ryan from Ripley last podcast, you
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: guys were talking about controlling the game? Who controlled the game? Best?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: In basketball? Will Robinson? First Team All American in seventy two.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I truly believe the best player who controlled the game
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: was Greg Jones. He averaged over twenty a game. I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: was at the eighty three win over UNLV. They were
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: number one. He and lester Rode from Buffalo. Great memory
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: from a sixty year old fan who will never forget
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: that day and how electric the coliseum was on that
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Sunday twenty eighth of February.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: That was UNLV was number one, But correct me if
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I'm wrong. They hadn't lost the game before, but the.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier the week had come out. Earlier in the week
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  Speaker 1: Tony's right, what is it? What do you guys do there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Zach, don't forget about this, don't forget about these things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and all. Yeah, So Hoppy's got his mug there
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  Speaker 1: small coffee or iced tea. Texter says, it's Christmas morning,
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  Speaker 1: and all through the house, my three kids teer into
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: presence with zero restraint. My wife brings me a package when,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: much to my surprise, they open a brand new efforting
• 54:53
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• 55:00
  Speaker 2: The order and good job getting total Nikki in yes
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: four hundredth consecutive episode.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Almost got through the entire show without a cotal. Nikki
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: reference Dougie Fresh from Merle's Inlet, South Carolina. Doesn't get
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: any better than having our freshman daughter home from WVU,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: rocking her newest jersey and eating our traditional Christmas Buddy
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the Elf breakfast. Go ahead, Jake, but there she is.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: She got he zach, Yeah, and then she went into
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the Buddy the Elf breakfast. That's kind of tasty. Got
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: those antlers on that drink cup. There, here's the happiness healthy.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Especially to Tucker in a Three Guys remote show from
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Merle's Inlet in twenty twenty five, We've never done that,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: have we.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: We were supposed to. We were supposed to go.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: What are we about?
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know it's supposed to. We were invited to go.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to make the schedule do that. And now
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that you're retired, you can make it down there. I'm
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: working that day.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Who was that from Dougie Fresh?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's one Irish Christmas stockings PS. Santa definitely came.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Look close on the far right of the mantles. They
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of Crown Royal bottles. There. What's on
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the fire right, can't see that's a Crown Royal bag.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I think that's what he's talking about. I think there's
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: something else on the fire right.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's the elf on the shelf.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but there might be something else here.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting to me in that picture. You got
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: a real fireplace, so that might be a fake gas fireplace.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: But then they have a TV with a fireplace on
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: top of it, so that's stereo fireplace. My guy likes
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: fire signed by an arsonist.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It's good sized TV.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Oh, that's every bit off.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: To zoom in that picture. I can't tell what's on
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the fire right.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: That's a seventy five inches right there, maybe eighty five. Yeah,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: there is something. I don't know if it's ironic or
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: quinn like. I think it's ironic. You have the image
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: of a fireplace above the fireplace.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Next Texter comes in. He's a doctor first named Don
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: out of Lexington, South Carolina. Graduated from wv's School to
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Medicine nineteen eighty six. I'd like to discuss the issue
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: of officials taking their pictures on the field prior to
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: a bowl game. Please keep in mind there are three
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: teams on the field, the home, the visitors, and the officials.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: It's been extremely difficult to get younger folks to officiate.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: The Division one officials are the best of the best,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: and the Bowl officials, which are rewarded the game, are
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: the best of the best. It's the highest honor to
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: reach this goal. These folks are dedicated to a lot
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: of clinics workoff field. For the most part, don't do
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it because of the money. I've officiated over forty years
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: with my great friends of over twenty five years. Yeah,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: it's thankless job. On occasion, we love football. We feel
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: we are giving back. On average, the age of an
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: official is fifty five years old. In the state of
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. We just don't have enough officials. Getting a
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: playoff for a championship game, that's a great reward for
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: what we go through. I have an interesting story for
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you nineteen ninety and six. I'm the back judge in
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a Kentucky high school football playoff game, Boyle County at Danville.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Neil Brown played in the game. Neil played in the game.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: His Boyse earity team upset their crosstown rival, defeating Danville
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: for the first time in seventeen years. It's a great
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: game with a great crowd. You might even think about
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: having an episode on three guys with an official or
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: two to get their perspective and get some interesting stories.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Probably not you for for the record, Brad, and I said,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with the officials taking a selfie on
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the field and the bowl.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: You tell much like his attack on accountants and Australia
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: and Australians and just the list goes on and on.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I wrote back to doctor Don that was Tony attacking guy.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: I wrote back to doctor Donald said, I've got no
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: problem with a group picture of the officials, you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: like you get Dale sparks out there the officially he
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: takes the picture of the group. My issue is.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I'll change in direction.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. It's when they take
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: out a phone from their own pocket.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: He never said that before. He may have thought it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: in his head, he never said it. Now he's gonna
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: yell and get louder at us when we call him
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Plus you're trying to parse it out. I mean the
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: pictures of pictures of pictures. That guy took a picture
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: on the so what no problem. Didn't take it during
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: a play.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I don't have I'm with a group picture. It's when
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: they take it out of their pants. They take that
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: phone out of their pants and again like that, that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: non official.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: He know, we all have cameras now in our pocket.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: That's how you take pictures.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Now he's dialing like waiting for a dial tone over there.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Hey, please get at your zoom.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your SERVI right, Thank you
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: very much for being for being a school of medicine.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you, dude, for all the work that you do.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Hold on, I've got my camera carrying case right here.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Let me get out my automatic, this new one.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I just push a button and the picture comes out.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I'll get the film developed when I get home. Steve
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: from Dublin, Ohio, originally from Charleston, and I struggle with
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: fans that label these past couple of years mediocre terrible.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: We won more games than most teams in the Big Twelve,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: so though those words do not fit my definition. I
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: also cringe when they call kids in the portal losers
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and unloyal. Get twin prints bread. As you guys have stated,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: this is now a business on Wednesdays. Also think about
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: being nineteen or twenty years old and having an opportunity
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to make more money and see another part of the
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: country that you may never experience in your lifetime. I'm
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: thinking ninety eight percent of those say this is unloyal
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: would take a new job with a twenty percent raise
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: for doing the same thing. Thanks for all you guys,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: do I listened every episode t dub from Barbersville. Oh wise,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: men three? What will happen?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: First?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Number one a second two time Heisman Trophy winner or
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: number two a player winning two national championships on two
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: different teams.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Give me number two?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Two? Last one? Here? By the way, do I tell
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: about lou Wendell? What about them? Oh? Unbelievable. I told
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: you on the last episode about Santa right had to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: send the olt. He dispatched the alps. You couldn't get
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: all those gifts in the tight spots some high running
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: water in certain areas. Put them on Lou Wendell pontoons.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Here is a here's a look at not Santa. This
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: is the G three boats. He did not use G three.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Those guys are just out there just doing G three
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: boat stuff. Those things are almost they're undestructible, They're they're perfect.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: That's the G three Gator series. But Santa sent the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: avalon pontoons. Yeah, and uh, if you want to show
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: that next picture, Jake, this was before they left. This
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: was before they left. Santa had them all lined up,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: said all right, you're going over here. You're going over here.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And then after that picture was taking those boats, those
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: avalon pontoons made a Michigan, hundred percent made in the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: United States. They loaded them up and the elves just
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: took off. I mean they're going like bats out of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: hell all over the place to deliver those gifts. So,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: if you need an elf to deliver your gifts, or
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: if you want to hook up with the number one
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: pontoon boat dealer in the state of West Virginia, visit
• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: or look get insant Albans.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: You need to hurry though, because boating season starts next week.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Now as the days are longer, more sunlight. Next week,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: here we go.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: You can start cutting the plastic off those How would
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you feel, Tony if before they headed off on Christmas Eve,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Santa and the elves took it.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, before we go, let's get I got no problem
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: It's selfie here. You know why Santa is not an
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: authoritarian figure. I got a problem with authority. What do
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you mean, naughty and nice? That's not authoritarian. I think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: he's keeping track. Last one. This is pretty interesting. This
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: might start something new on the show. Okay, you know
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: crazy Jason in Phoenix, right, Yeah, used to live in Texas.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Then he broke his leg all those pieces when he
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: was out there in Oklahoma and stepped in a big
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: ditch a golfer. Now he's back out in Phoenix. Was
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: in Phoenix? Isn't in Phoenix? I had he's in Phoenix now.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I had breakfast with him and Ubbock that day. Yes, hey, guys,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the Portal Gone Wild episode while I'm basking
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: in the glory of our nine to two non conference
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: record in basketball that somehow includes a win against in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: conference Arizona on a neutral court, because that's where college
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: sports is now. While doing so, I had an epiphany
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the universe. You Jent should have a segment on the
• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. I will start all right,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Jake put up the first picture. This is at venezi
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: As pizzeria. I was blessed to order a slice of pepperoni,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: a slice of buffalo spicy chicken, five hot wings, six
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: mozzarella sticks. I'd planned on enjoying them with three modellos,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: but as you can see, go ahead, Jake. Five were needed.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Sometimes reinforcements are necessary, and all you can do, in
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the words of three guys, is line up, handle it.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. I'll hang up and listen to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: your raiding off the air. Love the show. There you go,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: So can we go back to the first picture, Jake,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: go back to the first.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: There so he went, Yeah, he had five modelas started
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: with three.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: He went the So the sticks don't do anything for me.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: The pizza absolute really.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Good fried cheese. You kidding me?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Were too dense on right now?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Well that's because you're hung because you never eat correctly.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I could eat two six of them makes it too tight.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: The wings, I would increase my wings, decrease the sticks.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Pizza is just fine. I would be drinking connection three
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: or four.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I need to see more on the wings because the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: way I'm picky about the wings gotta be crispy enough.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: There.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Don't want any rubberish.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, right, agreed? Where's the side sated? I don't
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: see the side salad.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: You said, I don't want to be rubberish. I agree.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: You want him crispy, chrispy crispy.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotta be christy.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: You'll do Dougie. You'll do it over a keg. They
• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: What's the rating on that? Out of a ten? Uh?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Seven and a half.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I was gonna go I was gonna go six until
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: he had five modellas.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it up to seven.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Senator six and a halfsh Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: If we gave a too high of a grade now,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: then anything would be too easy.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Jason's got to lead in there. Yeah, so he'sfficulty coming
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• 1:05:04
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