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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the
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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is
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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger Listening to the Season with Peter Schreger. We
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Speaker 1: are through Memorial Day weekend and we are looking at
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Speaker 1: the abyss of NFL news. But I wanted to pop
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Speaker 1: on and have a podcast because I want to check
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Speaker 1: out to one last week, and Aaron wan Kaufman is
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Speaker 1: joining me. I feel like we need to unpack the
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Speaker 1: schedule stuff a little bit and kind of set the
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Speaker 1: stage for what's going to happen over the next few weeks,
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Speaker 1: but also hit on some other things both around the league,
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Speaker 1: around New York City, and around the sports and pop
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Speaker 1: culture world. Aaron, I'll go back to our interview with
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Speaker 1: Mike North, which is our last podcast, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: realize his quote about the Jets owing US one and
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Speaker 1: us being the league what's gonna take off the way
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Speaker 1: it did? It was like national news, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: did you say that on our podcasts? And then I
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Speaker 1: go back and the clip was from our podcast. So
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Speaker 1: what Mike North, who we love, the schedule maker from
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Speaker 1: the NFL, said was that the reason the Jets have
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Speaker 1: the most primetime games is because they're a Marquee team
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Speaker 1: and a Marquee network, and the way things went down
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Speaker 1: last year, tongue in cheek, he said, they owe us one.
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Speaker 1: Sure enough, the Jets have me, you can't. They asked
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Speaker 1: Rogers about it, and Rogers like, yeah, like, I think
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Speaker 1: we I think we did. Like Rogers was cool with it.
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Speaker 1: The Jets comment was big. The other thing that was
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Speaker 1: interesting was we were kind of on it before everyone else,
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Speaker 1: the Netflix deal and kind of unpacking that since so
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I'm not gonna say monumental it was,
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Speaker 1: but I think it caught a lot of people by
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Speaker 1: surprise if they were able to put together that Netflix
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Speaker 1: package so soon, because in March they had the league
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Speaker 1: meetings and Netflix was not in many of the conversations
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Speaker 1: with the other league broadcast partners. So you have your CBS,
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Speaker 1: you have your EVS, ESPN, you got Fox, you got NBC,
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Speaker 1: and how you got Amazon? Now, if you're Amazon, you're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, we just shelled out all this money for
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Speaker 1: the Black Friday ownership, which is kind of like that
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Speaker 1: holiday feel, and we're also gonna be getting a playoff game,
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Speaker 1: and we've now got a couple of years under our
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Speaker 1: belt with Thursday Night Football. If we're the official streaming
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Speaker 1: partner and we're paying all this money for Black Friday,
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day, seems like a natural link. Well, Netflix comes in.
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Speaker 1: They do the deal with Netflix, which interesting is it's
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Speaker 1: just for two games, and Netflix has given no indication
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Speaker 1: that they're looking to like buy a bigger package. From
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Speaker 1: all the reading and all the conversations I've done, Netflix
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Speaker 1: brings something that the other networks apparently do not, and
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Speaker 1: that is this global audience all under one tenth. So
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Yeah, the Fox games are broadcasted overseas,
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Speaker 1: and yes the CBS games are broadcasted, but those might
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Speaker 1: be on partner networks like Sky or be in Sport
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Speaker 1: or wherever those those other networks are overseas. With Netflix
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Speaker 1: on this Christmas Day game, everyone's gonna watch it on
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Speaker 1: the same network, on the same broadcast, with the same voice,
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Speaker 1: the same production, all at once. Is there a value
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Speaker 1: to that? I guess. Netflix apparently reaches way more in
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Speaker 1: their global audience, and that was the NFL's push on it.
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Speaker 1: Netflix all also was willing to pay a certain dollar,
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Speaker 1: which I'm sure is very appealing in a lot of ways,
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Speaker 1: and it also brings another partner into the NFL, which
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Speaker 1: leads to, you know, negotiations with the league when it
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Speaker 1: comes to future games. Well, there's another person at the table.
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Speaker 1: I will say this. What's interesting is that, like in
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Speaker 1: this dynamic, does the NFL need Netflix? I'd say it's
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Speaker 1: nice to have to get that Netflix audience. We saw
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Speaker 1: that the Quarterback series with the number one rated series
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Speaker 1: last summer, and that was a cool partnership. And the
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Speaker 1: Brady Roast obviously has football, you know, tentacles. Does Netflix
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Speaker 1: need the NFL, I don't know. Like to me, everything
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Speaker 1: I've read, it's like they view this as an event,
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Speaker 1: and it's more like they're to the event of having
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Speaker 1: Christmas Day NFL and then they use that to maybe
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Speaker 1: promote the wrestling package they just paid five hundred million
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Speaker 1: dollars for throughout the Christmas Day event. They use that
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Speaker 1: to try out their new ad tier, which they're kind
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Speaker 1: of soft launching and using in a different way. You're
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Speaker 1: going to can't avoid the ads. If they're going to
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Speaker 1: do an NFL game, they'll put them on and they'll
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Speaker 1: be able to use that ad tier for the first time.
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Speaker 1: A lot of conversation to the Netflix thing. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: as necessarily clean and easy as like, all right, here
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Speaker 1: we go Netflix. It seems like some folks were caught
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Speaker 1: off guard a little bit. I don't think there's any
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Speaker 1: sour feelings. I don't think anyone's upset, But now you
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Speaker 1: have this Netflix deal. And the one thing that I
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Speaker 1: asked Mike North, which is interesting, is like, who's going
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Speaker 1: to broadcast these games? And when they says that, it's like,
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Speaker 1: who's going to produce the games? So when Amazon came
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Speaker 1: in for Thursday night football, NBC was very much in
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Speaker 1: line with Amazon and helped guide them through it. When
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Speaker 1: the NFL network broadcasted all those games on Thursday nights
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Speaker 1: for many years, it was the Fox broadcast crew would
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Speaker 1: help put it on. Then it was CBS would help
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Speaker 1: put those on. We still don't know, so I assume
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Speaker 1: this is how this will play out. Netflix will pay
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Speaker 1: either Fox, CBS or ESPN, Abc, NBC. I don't think
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Speaker 1: NBC because Amazon's with NBC, but one of those three
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Speaker 1: they'll pay them a fee and those guys will use
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Speaker 1: their producers, their trucks, their directors, their ads, their camera folks,
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Speaker 1: they'll come in with that and then on air. There
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Speaker 1: hasn't been really much discussion publicly, and I've tried to
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Speaker 1: work back channels, like what's the plan on air for
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Speaker 1: this Netflix presentation of these two great Christmas Day games?
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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking great games. You're talking Steelers Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: Those are two teams that are gonna be in the
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Speaker 1: playoff on they're talking Texans Ravens another two great teams.
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Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the broadcaster? So it's just gonna be like,
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Speaker 1: all right, well, CBS is broadcasting it, and the CBS
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Speaker 1: third crew is Andrew Catalan and Tiki Barber, So that's
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Speaker 1: who's doing the game. Or does Netflix truly say like no,
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Speaker 1: we want to have you know, I said Bert Kreischer
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Speaker 1: on the podcast with North, But it's like we have
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Speaker 1: a relationship with Kevin Hart, we have a relationship with
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Speaker 1: Nate BERGATZI, we have a relationship with Andre Agassy from
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Speaker 1: the tennis event, Like we want to mix this up
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Speaker 1: and maybe do a different approach at this. I know
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Speaker 1: there's a Netflix movie coming out now with Nicole Kidman
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Speaker 1: and Zach Efron, Like whatever the movie is that Christmas
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Speaker 1: do they want to incorporate those people into their broadcast.
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Speaker 1: They can. I would imagine the NFL has a has
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Speaker 1: a voice. But like I said, Netflix, they're looking at
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Speaker 1: this in an event. I don't think it's just gonna
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Speaker 1: be all right here it is, roll it out and
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Speaker 1: there's Rich Eisen, there's Kurt Warner, there's you know whoever
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Speaker 1: else or the CBS there's Nate Burlison, and there's you know,
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I have to think they're gonna have their
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Speaker 1: own studio folks, and they were gonna have some sort
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Speaker 1: of different presentation which fascinated by. But uh, that's rapidly approaching,
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Speaker 1: Like this is already.
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Speaker 2: In bed with Omaha from quarterback. So I wonder if they're,
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Speaker 2: like you're saying, they're taking influence from the Manning cast.
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Speaker 2: So it would be so easy for them to have
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Speaker 2: Nicole Kidman, Zach Efron, whoever like jump.
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Speaker 1: Out and does the audience Does the NFL audience want that?
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Speaker 1: Like if I'm if I'm as if I'm a Steelers
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Speaker 1: fan and my team is seven and nine going in
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Speaker 1: or seven and seven going into the game, do I
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Speaker 1: want and I have one who presented it? Do I
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Speaker 1: want you know Nate Bergatzi Andrew Schultz, BT, you know,
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Speaker 1: cracking jokes about Russell Wilson the Rugs or do I
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Speaker 1: just want hey, I'm good, yeah, put on you know,
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Speaker 1: give me two random announcers from Fox. I'm like the four,
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Speaker 1: give me, give me Adam and Mark shal Earth and
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Speaker 1: I'm good. Let's just have the game on Netflix. Like so,
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Speaker 1: I think those are really in the weeds conversations. But
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Speaker 1: that's been sort of a buzz in the fallout after
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Speaker 1: the Netflix decision. I think it's cool. I think bring
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Speaker 1: in more partners, let's see different creative ways and more
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Speaker 1: people broadcasting football is better. The other thing that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to mention up top was the passing of Bill Walton. Aaron,
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Speaker 1: do you have any history of being a Walton fan
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Speaker 1: or a knowledge of Walton? I know you're of a
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Speaker 1: different generation. You're in your twenties. I'm in my forties.
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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Walton?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a huge basketball fan. I don't have
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Speaker 2: myself any memories of watching I'm also honored that you
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Speaker 2: think I'm in my twenties.
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Speaker 1: Because early thirties.
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Speaker 2: But I love this past week seeing so many other
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Speaker 2: basketball voices, voicing what Bill Walton meant not only to
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Speaker 2: the league as a player but afterwards as an ambassador
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Speaker 2: for the league and sort of like being there to
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Speaker 2: usher in this like kind a more connected period between
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Speaker 2: the NBA and the media, which I think he had
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Speaker 2: a pard in, especially early on. But I don't have like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I've got this his like sitting there watching Walton games
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Speaker 2: or anything.
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Speaker 1: So no, but I'll tell you growing up a huge
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Speaker 1: football fan, I obviously I always say this sounds a
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Speaker 1: huge hoopshead too, so like I have the you know,
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Speaker 1: knowledge of Walton's game, but I was thinking more of
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Speaker 1: just like as a broadcaster and as a personality. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: if you've written, if you've followed Walton, or you knew
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Speaker 1: the eulogy or the stuff that's been written in the
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Speaker 1: obituary is like he was like a terrible stat stuttering.
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Speaker 1: He overcame that and it's became one of the best broadcasters.
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Speaker 1: But like everyone has this nostalgia for NBA on NBC,
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Speaker 1: and it's Marv Albert and it's Fortello and it's Round
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Speaker 1: Ball Rock and it's Peter Vessi and it's a morber Shott.
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Speaker 1: But like those West Coast games were very often a
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Speaker 1: trio of Tom Hammond, who was kind of your like
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Speaker 1: you know, ham and Egg right down the middle. He
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Speaker 1: does the horse racing and he would do these West
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Speaker 1: Coast games. And then it was a duo of Bill
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Speaker 1: Walton and Steve Snapper Jones, and I think those guys
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Speaker 1: defined a generation of like West Coast basketball, because everyone
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Speaker 1: thinks of Marv Albert on the call for like Michael
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Speaker 1: Jordan versus Reggie Miller, or Michael Jordan versus Patrick Ewing,
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Speaker 1: or you named the East Coast Battle of the Nixon Pacers,
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Speaker 1: and that's true. On the West Coast, you would have
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Speaker 1: these games between like the Suns, you know, the Phoenix
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Speaker 1: Suns taking on the La Lakers in a first round
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Speaker 1: series that I remember was amazing. Those guys were on
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Speaker 1: the call, or like Courtland got really good in the
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Speaker 1: late nineties and they had this like awesome team, or
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Speaker 1: the Sacramento Kings and the Lakers in the early two thousands,
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Speaker 1: and it was always Bill Walton on those calls for
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Speaker 1: those West Coast playoff games, and he was truly like
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Speaker 1: out there, so out there, but you learned to embrace it.
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Speaker 1: And I just thought one of the interesting things is
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Speaker 1: like how he's been eulogized by everyone in sports. It's
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Speaker 1: not a out his accomplishments, not it's just like what
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Speaker 1: a good duty was, Like what a great dude, what
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Speaker 1: a great spirit. And that includes the Grateful Dead, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, a whole world. Obviously, Jack coming out Reggie
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Speaker 1: Miller last night during during the game said like, you know,
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Speaker 1: when he walked onto the court at UCLA thirty one
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Speaker 1: years ago, Bill Walton like reached out and was like,
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Speaker 1: here's how you're gonna be a UCLA brewing. But you know,
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Speaker 1: Walton was like at one with the earth. He was.
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Speaker 1: He was a guy who would cycle sixty miles a day.
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Speaker 1: Super uh eccentric, but also super eclectic in his interests.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Grateful Dead stuff casts a shadow or
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Speaker 1: a or a haze over over a lot of this
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Speaker 1: stuff because you're like, wow, he is, he's really at
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Speaker 1: one with the earth. But like, really cool dude. And
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Speaker 1: you know, in an era where it's so much content
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Speaker 1: and there's an era where it's like, all right, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna break down the exos and nose and tell you
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Speaker 1: what you're you know, there's a place for just a
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Speaker 1: good dude who was like a nice guy that everyone
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Speaker 1: liked talking to, who said crazy shit, and also was
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Speaker 1: really respected and beloved by those he worked with. Our
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Speaker 1: guest today on the podcast is going to be a
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Speaker 1: little outside the box. I usually resist from doing too
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Speaker 1: many players, and the reason why is because I think
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Speaker 1: the players are usually pretty tight lipped and don't have
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Speaker 1: much to say that it's compelling podcast content until they retire,
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Speaker 1: and then they start opening up and tell great stories,
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Speaker 1: either they go into media or they have these amazing
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Speaker 1: second lives, or if they don't, it's they have a
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Speaker 1: connection to the game. But as a current player, you're
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Speaker 1: usually pretty much p's and q's.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: There are exceptions. The Kelsey Brothers do their podcast, Michael
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Speaker 1: Parsons Talks, Jamar Chase Talks. We've had a lot of
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Speaker 1: these guys in the media world. But if I'm being honest,
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Speaker 1: unless you're one of the top quarterbacks, or you're a
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Speaker 1: really interesting guy or a team leader who's been in
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Speaker 1: the league for many years, probably don't need to have
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Speaker 1: you on the season with Peter Sugar because we're trying
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Speaker 1: to get inside the huddle a little bit and into
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Speaker 1: the weeds and if you're going to open up, it
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Speaker 1: might not be over with me over a phone call
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Speaker 1: or in zoom or It's kind of why I Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl shows Aaron, whether it be Good Morning Football or
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Speaker 1: if you like I don't. I don't have much for
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Speaker 1: the player interview on behalf of Old Spice. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: do much for me if if you're being honest content wise,
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Speaker 1: but if you're telling me you can get a coach
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Speaker 1: or a GM where you can get an ex player
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Speaker 1: who used to play for the team that's in the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and knows Eric b Enemy and knows Andy Reid,
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Speaker 1: and sign me up. Say all that, because our guest
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Speaker 1: is coming on for an interesting reason. The guest is
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Speaker 1: Justin Reid, who is the starting safety and the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion Chiefs, And that in itself is cool and
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Speaker 1: we could do a whole conversation and maybe we will.
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Speaker 1: But the reason I'm having him on is because I
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Speaker 1: saw a little blurb, a little blurb I'm like Apple
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Speaker 1: News last week that Justin Reid won a tournament called
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Speaker 1: the Blitz, which was the NFL's in house chess tournament. Yes,
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Speaker 1: the NFL's in house chess tournament where the NFL's best
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Speaker 1: chess players all competed. We're going to talk Chiefs and
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Speaker 1: we'll get there and he'll answer what he wants, But
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Speaker 1: I want to talk chess. Justin Reid's joining us right
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Speaker 1: for this. I'm so excited for our guests. He's a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion two times over. He is the man
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Speaker 1: in the defensive back field for one of the best
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Speaker 1: defenses in the league, and obviously one of the most
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Speaker 1: vocal guys on that unit and a true leader. And
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to him about some of the
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Speaker 1: stuff he did off the field last week. Justin Reid,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger.
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Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on, Bro? Appreciate you bringing me on.
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Speaker 1: I love having on first off Super Bowl champion in February.
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Speaker 1: We're now at like mini camp in June. Is it
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Speaker 1: turned the page next year time? But with the ring
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Speaker 1: ceremonies still kind of hovering in the next couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks or can you still appreciate what we did last year?
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Speaker 1: Where are we as far as the mint ding?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last page of the book. We're doing on
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Speaker 4: the last page of the book, we're getting ready to
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Speaker 4: close it. We got the white House visit coming up
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Speaker 4: on Friday, and then we got the ring ceremony coming
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Speaker 4: up in about two weeks. So those are the last
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Speaker 4: two end notes or footnotes into this chapter. And then
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Speaker 4: we're going to close this book and open up a
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Speaker 4: new one and try and get our new players and
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Speaker 4: our young guys here that haven't had the chance to
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Speaker 4: experience the championship.
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Speaker 3: We're going to try and get the marine.
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Speaker 1: What's Coach Reed say about the White House visit that's
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Speaker 1: going to be in a couple of days. We're recording
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Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. Does he give like primers to the
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Speaker 1: young guys, like, okay, here's what the dresses I here?
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Speaker 1: Because I remember a couple of years ago, Kelsey took
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Speaker 1: the mic and it was like, all right, all bets
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Speaker 1: are off.
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Speaker 3: We'll see how good we are keeping them from it.
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Speaker 4: You know, Kelsey has a lot to say all the time,
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Speaker 4: and that guy's just so so funny. He's always a character.
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Speaker 4: So we'll see what he has of his sleep. But
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Speaker 4: you know, formal retire we want to be classy, want
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Speaker 4: to do everything first class, So student ties for everybody,
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Speaker 4: and we're just gonna dress clean and enjoy the visit.
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Speaker 1: Have they given you any prep on what's in store
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Speaker 1: for the ring ceremony. These Kansas City players and teams
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Speaker 1: and coaches like you guys are so spoiled that it's like, well,
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Speaker 1: what's going to be different from the other years?
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Speaker 4: Just like what is It's been a little bit more
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Speaker 4: close to the chest this year than last year. Like
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Speaker 4: last year, we had a committee to talk about things
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Speaker 4: that we wanted on the ring, and you know, most
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Speaker 4: of the guys just wanted it to be as big
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Speaker 4: as possible, as many times as possible. So I think
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Speaker 4: that you know, they probably just remembered that from last year,
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Speaker 4: and you know it's going to be cool. We'll see
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Speaker 4: what they come up with.
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Speaker 1: You know. One of the reasons I went out of
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Speaker 1: my way to like specifically ask for you as a
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Speaker 1: guest is because last Wednesday was May twenty second, and
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Speaker 1: I'm just fiddling around on my phone, check in Twitter, whatever,
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Speaker 1: and I see this alert on Apple News. Yes, sir,
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Speaker 1: Justin Reid is crowned the winner of Blitz Champs three.
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Speaker 3: Championship season Baby.
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Speaker 1: Between NFL Stars.
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Speaker 2: You.
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Speaker 1: So, I don't think anyone at home listening to this
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Speaker 1: is necessarily aware of what Blitz Champs three is, But
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Speaker 1: can you take us through what that is and what
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Speaker 1: sport you won in?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it's blitz.
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Speaker 4: Champs three is a is an event put on by
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Speaker 4: Chess dot Com and its speed chess, So it's time chess.
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Speaker 4: Each person has a has a timer that they have
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Speaker 4: to make their moves and we played five minute games
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Speaker 4: and three minute games and it was a It was
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Speaker 4: a person double elimination style tournament. We had guys like
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Speaker 4: Larry Fitzgerald, Kyler, Murray Quinn, Nelson, Drew Tranquil who actually
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Speaker 4: won last year, Chadobe, oh Wuzier, myself, Michael Vick, just
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Speaker 4: some of the characters already and there playing and it
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Speaker 4: was double elimination and uh you know, oh MATC. Collins
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Speaker 4: was another guy, and it was just you know, some
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Speaker 4: speed chess competition, friendly competition, and it was all in
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Speaker 4: the name of charity. So we each represented our own
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Speaker 4: foundations or a foundation of our choice, and uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: I was just fortunate enough to come out on top.
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Speaker 1: Who'd you get in the first round? Who was your
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Speaker 1: first round matchup?
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Speaker 3: So first round was tough.
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Speaker 4: I actually had my work cutout for me with ch Adobe, Wuzier,
18:29
Speaker 4: I am because everything I do I want to do
18:31
Speaker 4: at one hundred and ten percent.
18:32
Speaker 3: I want to win everything. So I actually hired a
18:35
Speaker 3: grandmaster to coach me.
18:38
Speaker 1: Some Russian comes walking in like who do we?
18:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, like name is James Canty. I hired him like
18:43
Speaker 4: six weeks before the competition. He actually taught me how
18:47
Speaker 4: to scout. You can watch guys games if you know
18:50
Speaker 4: they're using name. So I scouted Chadobe's games to learn
18:54
Speaker 4: a little bit about how he played, and we had
18:55
Speaker 4: a game plan going in.
18:58
Speaker 1: So with ch Adobe's like opening, he did the same
19:01
Speaker 1: opening every single time. Is that how that works?
19:04
Speaker 3: Yeah?
19:04
Speaker 4: You know, you see what opening the guys the strongest with,
19:07
Speaker 4: and you try and if your opening isn't good against that,
19:10
Speaker 4: you have a plan for it. But if yours works,
19:11
Speaker 4: you just you stick to your guns and you roll
19:13
Speaker 4: with it.
19:14
Speaker 1: All right? So six weeks ago you hire this grand
19:16
Speaker 1: this grandmaster, does he come to you or you guys
19:19
Speaker 1: over zoom? What's the like virtue of that picture?
19:22
Speaker 3: So we did a couple of times, like.
19:26
Speaker 4: Like when I was playing games and its only he
19:27
Speaker 4: wasn't allowed to tell me what to do, but after
19:29
Speaker 4: I made a move, he would tell me you could
19:31
Speaker 4: have made if you did this movie, it would have
19:33
Speaker 4: been better, you know what I mean.
19:34
Speaker 3: So just through that, and then he gave me some
19:36
Speaker 3: videos to watch.
19:37
Speaker 4: So, like, I like playing on the Sicilian tom and
19:40
Speaker 4: all as black, that's just like different opening names. And
19:42
Speaker 4: I like playing the Scotch Game as white. So he
19:44
Speaker 4: sent me some videos on watching some some professional players
19:48
Speaker 4: that play that way, so I can learn a little.
19:50
Speaker 3: Bit from them.
19:51
Speaker 1: Okay, So I gotta go back even further. When did
19:54
Speaker 1: you pick up chess? Was this like a COVID thing?
19:56
Speaker 1: Or have you been playing your whole life?
19:57
Speaker 2: Like?
19:57
Speaker 1: When when did chess?
19:59
Speaker 3: Like?
19:59
Speaker 4: Really, like a year or two before COVID, we had
20:02
Speaker 4: we had a I had a teammate of mine, Philip Games,
20:05
Speaker 4: that we used to call Grand Mass to Phiel because
20:07
Speaker 4: he was always in his locker playing online chess. So
20:10
Speaker 4: he was playing, and you know what I mean, I like,
20:12
Speaker 4: I like to just interact with my teammates. You know,
20:14
Speaker 4: whatever they're into, I'll just play along with it, just
20:16
Speaker 4: because I want to connect to each and every one
20:18
Speaker 4: of them, you know, built that that friendship in that brotherhood.
20:21
Speaker 4: So we started playing and he was whooping my tail. Yeah,
20:24
Speaker 4: he was whooping me. So then me being competitive, I
20:26
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I'm gonna go study up and I'm
20:28
Speaker 4: gonna go try and be competitive. I didn't beat him
20:30
Speaker 4: for a year, yeah, like maybe two years, but then
20:34
Speaker 4: just keep practicing and he's a little bit better at it.
20:36
Speaker 1: So I'd never played golf my whole life, and everyone
20:40
Speaker 1: would always play golf. And then when I turned forty,
20:42
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, screw it, I want to
20:43
Speaker 1: learn golf. It sounds kind of the same thing. You're like,
20:45
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna be. I'm gonna I'm
20:47
Speaker 1: gonna dive into chess and you're a competitor. Yeah, and
20:50
Speaker 1: and you get through a doozy U Chadobi, and then
20:53
Speaker 1: who's next.
20:54
Speaker 3: Yeah. So after Chadoby, it was mac Collins.
20:57
Speaker 1: Okay, not wearing any shoes, never wear shoes, he's always barefoot.
21:01
Speaker 1: That's his.
21:04
Speaker 3: Smart cat.
21:04
Speaker 4: And he was real friendly too, like we alised so
21:06
Speaker 4: many the same people, especially so NVS actually told him
21:11
Speaker 4: that he was like, oh, you better watch out for
21:13
Speaker 4: j Ree because they're both there in Buffalo right now.
21:15
Speaker 3: Nymbees another buddy of mine.
21:17
Speaker 4: And then after mccollins, it was Calamary and then I
21:20
Speaker 4: beat Calamary the first time two games of one, and
21:23
Speaker 4: then he had to go and play mccollins to get
21:26
Speaker 4: back into the championship game.
21:28
Speaker 3: So he played and beat mccollins.
21:30
Speaker 4: And in that game that he was playing mccollins, I
21:33
Speaker 4: went back and scouted our game and.
21:35
Speaker 3: Yes, what moves. Yeah, I looked at what moves could
21:38
Speaker 3: have been better?
21:39
Speaker 4: And then like I played the same opening, he played
21:42
Speaker 4: the same opening, and I was like, oh, okay, I got
21:44
Speaker 4: I already know what I'm going to do.
21:45
Speaker 1: Now it's already done. Like does does Spags or Dave Merritt, Like,
21:48
Speaker 1: do they know like what that you're putting in this
21:50
Speaker 1: time of scouting and preparation, Like, I'm so impressed by
21:53
Speaker 1: your preparation and the mental gymnastics of this whole thing.
21:56
Speaker 4: Failure to preparers prepared in the field man, and you
21:58
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I take preparation very seriously.
22:01
Speaker 4: That's where all my confidence comes from playing football, That's
22:03
Speaker 4: where it comes from playing chess. But actually put it
22:06
Speaker 4: up in the team meetings today that they I was like,
22:08
Speaker 4: the blst chance thing. You know, we're back to back
22:11
Speaker 4: here in the in the chiefs like.
22:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so don't I don't play chess. My kid
22:19
Speaker 1: is in elementary school and he's playing it, and he
22:21
Speaker 1: talks in a language. I don't know. How hard was
22:23
Speaker 1: it to learn you said the Sicilian and this other
22:25
Speaker 1: thing like the sketch. How hard was it to learn
22:28
Speaker 1: these terms? And how long did it take for you
22:29
Speaker 1: to feel pretty comfortable in those chess circles?
22:31
Speaker 4: You know, it really just depends on how how much
22:34
Speaker 4: time you put into it, you know what I mean,
22:35
Speaker 4: Like if you if you put in five ten minutes
22:37
Speaker 4: a day, you can really pick up on it pretty quickly.
22:41
Speaker 4: I loved it so much. I was probably putting in
22:43
Speaker 4: like one and a half to two hours a day.
22:45
Speaker 4: Yes to doing puzzles, are playing games. And you know,
22:48
Speaker 4: if you're putting in that much time, you can really
22:50
Speaker 4: start picking it up after about you know, maybe a month.
22:53
Speaker 4: You really start picking it up in about two weeks,
22:56
Speaker 4: but you right start getting good in about two months
23:00
Speaker 4: three months, and then from there you just keep getting
23:02
Speaker 4: better and refining. And you know, by the time you've
23:04
Speaker 4: been playing for a year or two years, you can
23:06
Speaker 4: get pretty good.
23:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I during my son is picking it up,
23:11
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's go on chess dot
23:12
Speaker 1: com and like you could play like Gordon Hayward from
23:15
Speaker 1: you know, like the NBA, he's he's a he's a
23:17
Speaker 1: chess player. And I think Larry fitz was like.
23:19
Speaker 4: On its class computerized bots that they yeah, you can
23:23
Speaker 4: play there.
23:24
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever go on there and just
23:27
Speaker 1: play against random strangers? Is like an anonymous person.
23:30
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all the time. That's that's mainly what I do.
23:32
Speaker 4: So it's fun because whatever skill level you are, it'll
23:36
Speaker 4: match someone to the same skill level as you, and
23:38
Speaker 4: you know, as you get better, you'll play better competition,
23:40
Speaker 4: so you know, it stays fun.
23:43
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea like how cool this is?
23:46
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for kids everywhere, they all want
23:48
Speaker 1: to be NFL players, But like short of that, to
23:52
Speaker 1: learn that there's a crew of you guys that on
23:54
Speaker 1: your off time or choosing to play chess, I think
23:56
Speaker 1: is so inspiring. I think it's so interesting.
23:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's just it's just fun to be multifaceted.
24:01
Speaker 3: You know.
24:02
Speaker 4: I love football, It's what I do. I come to
24:04
Speaker 4: work with a smile on my face every day because
24:05
Speaker 4: I have the great job in the world. But besides that,
24:09
Speaker 4: it's okay to have more than one passion. You know,
24:10
Speaker 4: you can play more than one sport. You're gonna have
24:12
Speaker 4: more than one hobby. So it's just things that you
24:15
Speaker 4: know you like to do, and you know it adds
24:17
Speaker 4: some personality, some some uniqueness and some character. You know,
24:21
Speaker 4: it's a it's a fun skill that you know you
24:23
Speaker 4: never know what it will bring up. And you know,
24:25
Speaker 4: I was playing it for fun and I was able
24:26
Speaker 4: to win a thirty thousand dollars check for my charity
24:29
Speaker 4: because of it. So when you can combine two things,
24:31
Speaker 4: something that you already love to do and make a
24:34
Speaker 4: good cause out of it, I mean you just can't
24:35
Speaker 4: beat that.
24:36
Speaker 1: Is there anyone on the team today at the meeting
24:39
Speaker 1: or you know, you and Tranquil are talking about it,
24:40
Speaker 1: Who's like, hey, guys, like I've never played, Like can
24:43
Speaker 1: you help me? Can you get me started? Have you
24:44
Speaker 1: inspired anyone to pick it up since joining the Chiefs?
24:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know some of the young guys. Some of
24:49
Speaker 4: the young guys play. Joe Joe, Joe Tuny, he plays
24:52
Speaker 4: a lot too. He already knows how to play. Okay,
24:54
Speaker 4: we played I bring a chessboard with the pieces on
24:57
Speaker 4: the training camp every year.
25:00
Speaker 1: Joseph like, Pa, break it out. I love it.
25:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get some rounds in the locker room in
25:04
Speaker 3: our downtime. So yeah, that's cool.
25:08
Speaker 1: What's your charity and where can people learn more about
25:11
Speaker 1: it and maybe make a j.
25:13
Speaker 3: Read Indeed, Jay Read Indeed. We focus on three pillars.
25:18
Speaker 4: The biggest pillar is the tech space and computer science
25:22
Speaker 4: and try and make computer science cool. And we try
25:25
Speaker 4: to meet kids where we're at. So, you know, kids
25:28
Speaker 4: are into sports, learning the music. So we love to
25:31
Speaker 4: take the concepts of sports and music and try and
25:34
Speaker 4: you know, hey, this is your issues. This is how
25:37
Speaker 4: we want every kid to be the superstar. We want
25:39
Speaker 4: every kid to be the star artist. But in case
25:42
Speaker 4: that isn't in your cards, you can still follow your
25:44
Speaker 4: passion and computer science can help you do that. We
25:47
Speaker 4: try and introduce tools and techniques and skill sets that
25:49
Speaker 4: will help them and help them find a career field
25:52
Speaker 4: as they grow up and mature. We have Microsoft as
25:55
Speaker 4: a partner, so we do a lot of Excel proficiency
25:57
Speaker 4: and a lot of life skills, some financial literacy and
25:59
Speaker 4: some budgeting. And you know, you can find out more
26:02
Speaker 4: information at my website. Jareadindeed dot com or any of
26:06
Speaker 4: our social handles, you know, Twitter, Instagram at jay Reed Indeed.
26:10
Speaker 3: So we're excited about that.
26:12
Speaker 4: We have two events coming up to a charity softball
26:14
Speaker 4: game that's going to be offense versus defense, and trying
26:18
Speaker 4: to recruit some help on the defensive side of the
26:19
Speaker 4: ball because offense has some former baseball players, so they kind.
26:23
Speaker 3: Of be up on us last year. I'm not gonna
26:25
Speaker 3: let that happen again.
26:25
Speaker 1: No, No, when is that golf tournament.
26:28
Speaker 3: Coming up to?
26:29
Speaker 1: When's a softball game.
26:31
Speaker 3: That is next Thursday, June sixth Okay?
26:34
Speaker 1: And is it mostly Chiefs players? Are all guys around
26:37
Speaker 1: the league.
26:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's Chiefs players with a couple of celebrity
26:40
Speaker 4: guests offense versus defense format, and we have some celebrity
26:44
Speaker 4: guests that go to come in and play too.
26:45
Speaker 1: All right, and do you like get your defensive back team?
26:48
Speaker 1: I guess Trent McDuffie going to be playing third base. Like,
26:50
Speaker 1: what do we have in store? Let me hear the
26:52
Speaker 1: scouting report.
26:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're all going to the batting CAGs. We gotta
26:55
Speaker 4: get right. Yeah, we need a star clift. You know,
27:00
Speaker 4: Nick Bolton has some baseball background. I'm gonna need to
27:03
Speaker 4: Nick to be my star player, man.
27:04
Speaker 1: I mean them at shortstop. Let's say, miss, let's go, hey.
27:08
Speaker 4: You're you're you're going third, bro, We need we need
27:11
Speaker 4: to just get on the pace you're betting third, go ahead,
27:13
Speaker 4: get us three runs real quick.
27:15
Speaker 1: I love this. And then the golf tournament is shortly thereafter.
27:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, golf tournament is June seventeen, also here in Kansas City.
27:21
Speaker 1: I love it. Man, that's great. Uh. I think it's
27:24
Speaker 1: really cool you guys did this. I wish it was more,
27:27
Speaker 1: you know, widely known or publicized, because I think it's
27:30
Speaker 1: so cool to see that there's these NFL guys who
27:33
Speaker 1: do things other than play football. But also so are
27:37
Speaker 1: applying it to such an intellectual game. Have you like,
27:40
Speaker 1: have you watched Searching for Bobby Fisher or did you
27:42
Speaker 1: see the Queen's Gambit? Like, are you into like chess
27:45
Speaker 1: pop culture wise or no?
27:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the Queen's Gambit is actually what influenced
27:49
Speaker 4: me to play the Sicilian. Hell yeah, So after watching that,
27:52
Speaker 4: she played the Sicilian in one move and I was like, okay,
27:55
Speaker 4: that was my first time hearing that term. So I
27:56
Speaker 4: just looked it up and I started playing it, and
27:59
Speaker 4: then I just kept playing it ever since.
28:02
Speaker 1: There's there's like this. In the nineties, it was deep Blue,
28:07
Speaker 1: I think it was what it was called. It was
28:08
Speaker 1: like a computer. And then there was Casparov, the Man,
28:11
Speaker 1: and they would play and it was like the biggest deal.
28:14
Speaker 1: It was like the super Bowl when I was a kid.
28:15
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't even know if like people
28:18
Speaker 1: know about that, And I love that. I love that
28:21
Speaker 1: you're embracing it. Bill Walton just passed away, and I
28:25
Speaker 1: did a little bit of him in the monologue. But
28:26
Speaker 1: there was a story that Danny Ainge told on one
28:28
Speaker 1: of the Barstool podcasts that he would bring his chessboard
28:32
Speaker 1: in the eighties on the plane and he would play
28:34
Speaker 1: like an electronic chess. Like this is like there's a
28:36
Speaker 1: long history of athletes loving chess, which I think is
28:39
Speaker 1: so cool.
28:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's so stimulated and it's a fun game to play.
28:43
Speaker 4: You can make it quick, you can make it slow.
28:45
Speaker 4: What I love about it is just kind of the same,
28:47
Speaker 4: but it's always different, which is the same to football.
28:50
Speaker 4: You know, like plays are for the most part, a
28:53
Speaker 4: lot of them are the same, but it's always just
28:55
Speaker 4: slightly different. And it's amazing how that just changed the
28:58
Speaker 4: dynamics of everything else.
29:00
Speaker 1: So you know, that's it's just fascinating Kyler. You see
29:04
Speaker 1: him pre game. If you guys play them like, is
29:06
Speaker 1: there like what's up? Like are you shit talking? Or
29:08
Speaker 1: is it like respect? Like all right, like guys like
29:10
Speaker 1: it's a fellow chess player. But I did beat you.
29:14
Speaker 3: You know, it's all it's all love. It's all. It's
29:17
Speaker 3: all in love and spirit, man.
29:18
Speaker 4: So we're competitive on the chessboard, we're competitive on the field.
29:23
Speaker 4: You know, defensive guys on the chess board tend to
29:25
Speaker 4: be a little bit more aggressive. I think that's just
29:27
Speaker 4: in our personalities. So you know, we just get an
29:31
Speaker 4: opportunity to play good guys in great talent, man. And
29:34
Speaker 4: I just love the competition.
29:35
Speaker 1: Man. I so appreciate you coming on. It was awesome
29:39
Speaker 1: talking to you. And I said it throughout this whole
29:41
Speaker 1: playoff rounting even beforehand, that it's defensive backfield. And I
29:46
Speaker 1: know you're losing Snead and that's a big loss, but
29:48
Speaker 1: I have no doubt you guys will find a way
29:49
Speaker 1: to keep it going. But you are the vocal leader,
29:52
Speaker 1: and you were the dude, and it is so cool
29:54
Speaker 1: that you have an interest outside of football like chess
29:56
Speaker 1: and are spreading the good will and spreading the good
29:59
Speaker 1: word on how great an intellectual game it can be
30:01
Speaker 1: and how it's really no different than football. It's preparation
30:05
Speaker 1: and to attack when the time is right.
30:09
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. Couldn't have said it better, you know. So
30:11
Speaker 4: excited for sneed, excited for us. It's going to be
30:15
Speaker 4: a hell of a season. We're starting fast to Baltimore,
30:17
Speaker 4: so it's gonna be fun.
30:19
Speaker 1: How about that When you got that schedule and you
30:21
Speaker 1: see Baltimore Week one, it's like, really, okay.
30:23
Speaker 4: I was really hoping that somebody else will play them
30:26
Speaker 4: first so I can see on the whole quarterback option,
30:29
Speaker 4: you know, with Derek Henry.
30:30
Speaker 1: And the marchin totally and they're not going to show it.
30:32
Speaker 4: You know, We're up for the challenge and we're just
30:36
Speaker 4: gonna have to buckle out chinch straps and we know
30:37
Speaker 4: it's going to be a hard nosed, blue collar game,
30:40
Speaker 4: so we're just gonna be prepared for it.
30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you are the man. We so appreciate it.
30:44
Speaker 1: Go to get to meetings Uh, Justin Reid, congratulations being
30:48
Speaker 1: the blitz champion three champion of the NFL.
30:51
Speaker 4: Appreciate you, my guy. Aaron.
31:00
Speaker 1: I gotta say I love Justin Reid. Love that entire interview.
31:05
Speaker 1: I love that he is a chess champion and it's
31:07
Speaker 1: talking about the Sicilian.
31:09
Speaker 2: I love hearing him talk about playing against Kyler and
31:13
Speaker 2: then scouting Kyler's moves from the previous game for his
31:17
Speaker 2: next game.
31:18
Speaker 1: Uh oh, it was great. Yeah, totally cool. And I
31:21
Speaker 1: didn't know much about the the the alternative community of
31:25
Speaker 1: chess players at the NFL. But then he starts rattling
31:27
Speaker 1: off names like Joe Tuney's into it. Some of the
31:29
Speaker 1: young guys are into it. You gotta think it's such
31:32
Speaker 1: a physical sport football and you're you know, so so
31:37
Speaker 1: like you know, in the zone for those eighteen weeks,
31:39
Speaker 1: Like what a wonderful release it might be to get
31:42
Speaker 1: into chess, and gosh, Justin's the best in the sport,
31:44
Speaker 1: which I love.
31:46
Speaker 2: It also is a cool like we've you know, there
31:49
Speaker 2: are stories of Miles Garrett would play Dungeons and Dragons
31:53
Speaker 2: with some guys and like here, yeah.
31:55
Speaker 1: These packers, oh lined itd settlers of Catan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
32:01
Speaker 2: I love hearing all those kind of stories about like
32:03
Speaker 2: other things that they're doing together, especially in the locker
32:06
Speaker 2: room where where you know they might have a bunch
32:07
Speaker 2: of downtime. And if they can be even if they're
32:10
Speaker 2: playing on their phone playing chess, that's great.
32:12
Speaker 1: Can Justin Reid be the next great NFL broadcaster? I
32:16
Speaker 1: thought his energy was awesome. Yeah.
32:19
Speaker 2: He If he can talk about football the way he
32:22
Speaker 2: talks about chess, which I'm sure he can, he would
32:25
Speaker 2: be great. Get him to do Netflix days.
32:30
Speaker 1: They're actually playing the approach all right, all right, let's
32:33
Speaker 1: wrap it here. Great podcast episode. Love being back on
32:37
Speaker 1: the mic with you. Some housekeeping stuff. We're gonna keep
32:41
Speaker 1: on churning out episodes as they come about. I didn't
32:45
Speaker 1: have a GM or coach this week because they were
32:48
Speaker 1: in camp. A lot of these guys are like, they're like,
32:50
Speaker 1: it's hard to get the schedule down when they're actually working.
32:52
Speaker 1: So we're gonna bang out a bunch in the next
32:54
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But the Rangers are still alive. That's
32:57
Speaker 1: the thing here. I've been finding myself without a four
33:00
Speaker 1: thirty am wake up watching every NBA playoff game and
33:04
Speaker 1: loving it, and I'm are you or a Luca guy?
33:11
Speaker 1: That could be both, Like Luca's amazing the angles he
33:15
Speaker 1: shoots the ball at with these like leaning and tilting,
33:18
Speaker 1: but he does complain to the refs quite a bit,
33:21
Speaker 1: which is getting on my nerves. But Ant's awesome, I thought,
33:25
Speaker 1: I mean, we're recording this on Wednesday. Karl Anthony Towns,
33:28
Speaker 1: who everyone on and everyone beats up on. I thought
33:30
Speaker 1: he had two huge threes to keep that series alive.
33:34
Speaker 1: I like watching him, so I don't think it's a
33:37
Speaker 1: done deal. I think everyone's like, all right, well they'll
33:40
Speaker 1: go and then Dallas will take care of business now.
33:42
Speaker 1: And then the Pacers they led it in the final
33:44
Speaker 1: minutes three different times and got swept. That was horrible.
33:48
Speaker 1: But the Rangers Panthers the big deal here in New York.
33:50
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, I'm going to be in
33:52
Speaker 1: Kansas City for the big slick charity auction, slash function,
33:58
Speaker 1: slash hospital visits, slash celebrity softball, slash presentation, and slash
34:04
Speaker 1: five K. There's a million things going on, but I'll
34:06
Speaker 1: have stories next week. It'll be are you running the
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Speaker 1: five K? Two?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Bey? Nice?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm running that five k dude, I'm in I'm
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Speaker 1: in tip top physical shape right now. I've been I've
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Speaker 1: been getting ready for this weekend. But there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a great turnout. And last year we raised like three
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Speaker 1: million dollars, so hoping to top that. Uh, Kansas City
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Speaker 1: has been really good to me and I hopefully can
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Speaker 1: add just a little bit to the weekend and maybe
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Speaker 1: help raise some funds there. So that's the big Slick
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Speaker 1: charity event. Go find that out big Slick dot org. Uh,
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Speaker 1: that's it. It's all. I got aaron, great hearing from you,
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Speaker 1: great scene. Yes, sorry I called you a twenty year old.
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Speaker 1: That was a compliment and a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of pun I think a young spirit make it justin
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Speaker 1: read our guests. Fantastic. Jason English the man. Let's get
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Speaker 1: some of these clips online. Maybe I'll get a little
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Speaker 1: clip of him talking chess, talking to Sicilian. I love that.
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Speaker 1: What was the other one, the Scotch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Scotch is a different opening. So scotches if
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Speaker 2: you're white, Sicilian is black.
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Speaker 1: I think got it. Okay, leave it at that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're even referring to their airing.
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Speaker 2: The color like if You're, if you're the white or
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Speaker 2: the black.
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