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- Lucas: So, Luna, I was looking at Costco's latest annual report, and the number that jumped out at me wasn't their revenue or their same-store sales. It was their member renewal rate. Ninety-two point five percent globally. Luna: Ninety-two point five percent. That's almost like a religious following. How do you get people to pay a membership fee and stay that loyal? Lucas: Right. And that loyalty isn't an accident. It's a board-level strategy. Today I want to dig into how Costco's board has built this cult of loyalty by making decisions that often go against conventional Wall Street wisdom. Luna: I'm already thinking about the hot dog. But go on. Lucas: Exactly. The $1.50 hot dog combo. That's the most famous example. But the board's role in that goes deeper than just keeping a price point. It's about a whole philosophy of pricing and governance. Luna: So the board actually discusses the hot dog? Like in a board meeting? Lucas: Well, not the hot dog specifically, but the pricing strategy behind it. The board has consistently backed a model that caps gross margins at around 14 percent. That's a hard ceiling, and it's written into their corporate DNA. When the CEO suggested raising the price of the hot dog a few years back, the founder reportedly said, quote, 'If you raise the price, I'll kill you.' Luna: That's a strong stance. But what does that do for the business beyond just looking good to customers? Lucas: It creates a trust signal. When shoppers walk into Costco, they know they're getting a fair deal. That translates into higher transaction volumes, more memberships, and a renewal rate that other retailers would kill for. And the board protects that trust even when it costs short-term profit. Luna: So it's almost like a negative feedback loop in a good way. The board keeps margins low, customers stay loyal, and the company grows. Lucas: Exactly. And that's where the board's role becomes crucial. They're not just rubber-stamping management. They're actively shaping the strategy. Take the decision to keep the annual membership fee at sixty dollars for over a decade. That's a board-level call, and they've held the line even when analysts have pushed for increases. Luna: And that's where I see the tension. Wall Street loves fee hikes because they're pure profit. So how does the board justify that to shareholders? Lucas: The board's argument is that the fee increase would be a short-term boost but could erode the very loyalty that drives long-term value. They publish a proxy statement that lays out their philosophy. It's almost like a mission statement for governance. They say, 'Our business model is based on member loyalty, and that loyalty is built on price and value.' Luna: It's refreshing to hear a board think that way. But you know, a lot of people might say, 'Well, they can afford to think long-term because they have cash coming in.' Lucas: That's a fair point, but it's not just about having cash. It's about how they think about their stakeholders. And that includes their employees. Costco's average wage is over twenty-five dollars an hour, and their turnover rate is under nine percent. In retail, that's unheard of. Luna: And that's a board decision too? Lucas: It is. The compensation committee sets the philosophy, and they've consistently backed management's push for higher wages and better benefits. They even fought off a shareholder proposal in 2023 that wanted to study the benefits of a higher wage. The board said, 'We already know the benefits. We're doing it.' Luna: That's bold. So the board is basically telling shareholders, 'Trust us, the long-term gain is worth it.' Lucas: Right. And that's where the conversation gets interesting. There's a real tension between short-term shareholder returns and long-term stakeholder loyalty. Costco's board has chosen the latter, and it's worked. Luna: It's almost like they're running a private company in a public shell. But how do they get away with it? Don't institutional investors push back? Lucas: They do, but the board has a couple of tools. First, they have a dual-class structure? No, actually they don't. They have a single class of shares, but they have a very independent board. Over two-thirds of the directors are independent, and they've been around for a long time. That gives them the cover to make unpopular decisions. Luna: So independence is key. But what about the CEO succession? That's a board responsibility too, right? Lucas: Absolutely. And Costco's board has handled that smoothly. When Craig Jelinek stepped down as CEO in 2023, the board had already groomed Ron Vachris from within. Vachris came up through the warehouse operations, not from a fancy MBA program. That's a signal that the board values operational DNA over corporate polish. Luna: That's interesting. So the board is saying, 'We want someone who knows the warehouses, not just the spreadsheets.' Lucas: Exactly. And that's been a pattern for decades. Jim Sinegal, the co-founder, was CEO for a long time, and his successor, Jelinek, came from the ranks. The board values institutional knowledge and a deep understanding of the culture. Luna: Culture. That's another word you don't hear in most boardrooms. But I have to ask, does this approach ever backfire? I mean, there was that DEI vote in 2023, right? Lucas: Yeah, that was a moment. A shareholder group proposed a report on the risks of the company's diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. The board recommended a 'no' vote, and it passed, meaning the proposal was rejected. But here's the interesting part: the board didn't just say, 'We don't need this.' They actually published a detailed response, explaining that they already had robust DEI programs and that they were working. Luna: So they didn't dismiss it. They engaged with it. That's a good look for the board. Lucas: It is. And it shows a level of transparency that's rare. Most boards would just say, 'Vote no' and be done with it. Costco's board took the time to lay out their reasoning. That's part of the trust-building with shareholders. Luna: So it's not just about loyalty from customers and employees. It's about building trust with shareholders too, even when you're telling them 'no.' Lucas: Right. And that trust is what allows the board to make those long-term bets. They know that if they're transparent and consistent, shareholders will stick with them through the ups and downs. Luna: I think that's a great point to bring back to our listeners. If you're getting value from these conversations, remember that listener support is what keeps us going. A couple of dollars a month at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo genuinely makes a difference. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small gesture that helps us keep the podcast ad-free. And we appreciate it. But back to Costco. So how does the board actually enforce this philosophy over time? It's not like they're micromanaging every price. Luna: I was wondering about that. How do you keep a consistent strategy when you have new directors coming in? Lucas: Well, the board has an average tenure of about ten years, which is longer than most. That creates a strong institutional memory. They also have a written governance document, like many companies, but theirs is unusually specific about their approach to pricing and wages. And they reinforce it annually in their proxy statement. Luna: So it's almost like a constitution for the company. Lucas: Exactly. And that constitution is tested every time a new director joins. They have a formal orientation program that includes a deep dive into the business model and its history. They even take new directors on warehouse tours. Luna: Warehouse tours. That's a smart way to indoctrinate, in the best sense of the word. Lucas: It is. And it works. When you see the scale of the operation and the way employees interact with members, you understand why the low-margin model works. It's not something you can learn from a spreadsheet. Luna: So is there a downside? I mean, the stock is up over 400 percent in the last decade, but could this approach ever become a liability? Lucas: There's always a risk. The board might be too insular, too focused on the old way of doing things. E-commerce is a challenge, and they've been slower to adapt than, say, Amazon. But the board has been deliberate about that. They'd rather lose a few online sales than sacrifice the in-warehouse experience that drives loyalty. Luna: So they're making a trade-off. And the board is comfortable with that because they've measured it. Lucas: Right. And that's the thing about Costco's board. They have a clear, unwavering philosophy, and they're willing to defend it even when it's unpopular. That's rare in corporate America. Luna: I think that's a powerful takeaway for anyone in business. It's not just about following best practices. It's about having a clear vision and the conviction to stick with it. Lucas: Absolutely. And as we look ahead, one question is whether the next generation of leaders will hold the line. The board has set the stage for a seamless succession, but the real test will come when they're faced with a crisis that tempts them to stray. Luna: Like what? A huge inflation spike? A new competitor? Lucas: Maybe both. But if the past is any guide, they'll stick to their playbook. And that's why I'm optimistic about Costco's future. They've built a system that's resilient because it's based on trust. Luna: And trust, as we've seen, is a powerful thing. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive. Lucas: Yeah, thanks for listening. We'll be back next week with another boardroom story.