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- 0:00Speaker 1: You know, you usually go into a 911 tape expecting
- 0:02Speaker 1: to hear like the chaotic soundtrack of a nightmare.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 0:08Speaker 1: There is this clear expectation of just pure, unfiltered panic.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Like the dispatcher picks up and you instantly anticipate the hyperventilation,
- 0:16Speaker 1: the begging, maybe even, I don't know, the rhythmic thud
- 0:20Speaker 1: of chest compressions in the background.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Right. It's visceral.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:23Speaker 1: As a listener, your own heart rate spikes because you're
- 0:26Speaker 1: literally bearing witness to the most desperate moment of a
- 0:29Speaker 1: stranger's life.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Which is why the absence of that panic is so jarring.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:34Speaker 2: When the tone of the caller directly contradicts the severity
- 0:37Speaker 2: of the emergency they're reporting, I mean, it completely derails
- 0:40Speaker 2: the established protocol. Dispatchers are heavily trained to interpret the
- 0:43Speaker 2: background noise just as much as the actual words being spoken.
- 0:47Speaker 1: And that auditory mismatch, that weird calmness, is exactly what
- 0:51Speaker 1: we encounter on June 12th. This is around 5 p.m.
- 0:53Speaker 1: at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Right.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So a man places a call on 911 to report
- 0:58Speaker 1: that a woman is overdosing in his hotel room. But,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and this is the crazy part, there is zero urgency.
- 1:04Speaker 2: None at all.
- 1:05Speaker 1: He is not frantic. He just casually offers his name
- 1:07Speaker 1: as Kendall, and then, almost like he is leaving a
- 1:10Speaker 1: mundane voicemail for a plumber, he informs the dispatcher that
- 1:14Speaker 1: he is no longer with the dying woman. He has
- 1:16Speaker 1: already left the room.
- 1:17Speaker 2: It fundamentally rewrites the script of a medical emergency. I mean,
- 1:20Speaker 2: you have a person supposedly in the throes of a
- 1:23Speaker 2: fatal overdose... And the sole witness, the person actually initiating
- 1:27Speaker 2: the rescue, has just casually strolled away.
- 1:30Speaker 1: OK, let's unpack this, because today we are diving into
- 1:33Speaker 1: a huge stack of sources detailing this chilling Las Vegas crime.
- 1:38Speaker 1: It begins with what looks like a run of the
- 1:39Speaker 1: mill tragic overdose, but it rapidly unravels into a sprawling
- 1:44Speaker 1: complex murder investigation.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it really spirals.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So our mission for this deep dive is to reconstruct
- 1:50Speaker 1: the specific forensic pivots that changed the entire trajectory of
- 1:53Speaker 1: this case. We're going to explore the relentless, almost unbelievable
- 1:57Speaker 1: surveillance infrastructure of modern casinos. Which is terrifying, honestly. Truly.
- 2:03Speaker 1: And we're going to dissect the fascinating legal chess match
- 2:07Speaker 1: that gets triggered the moment a suspect opens their mouth. Because,
- 2:11Speaker 1: you know, if you think a confession is the end
- 2:13Speaker 1: of a criminal case, you're about to discover why it
- 2:16Speaker 1: is usually just the opening move in a massive high
- 2:19Speaker 1: stakes legal puzzle.
- 2:20Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is how this specific timeline perfectly illustrates
- 2:24Speaker 2: a core tenet of modern forensic investigation, which is that
- 2:28Speaker 2: initial assumptions are incredibly dangerous.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
- 2:31Speaker 2: Law enforcement and medical personnel, they're human, right? They often
- 2:34Speaker 2: want to take a situation at face value, especially in
- 2:36Speaker 2: a city that processes as much daily chaos as Las Vegas.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Right. They see an overdose and just assume, yep, another overdose.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Exactly. But the physical reality of a crime scene, like
- 2:47Speaker 2: the biological evidence, the digital footprints, It all has a
- 2:50Speaker 2: way of aggressively contradicting the neat little narrative a suspect
- 2:54Speaker 2: tries to leave behind.
- 2:56Speaker 1: So I want you to put yourself in the shoes
- 2:57Speaker 1: of hotel security that afternoon at the Palms. They get
- 3:00Speaker 1: the dispatch based on this bizarre 911 call, and they
- 3:03Speaker 1: head up to room 11117. They swipe into the room,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and the visual evidence immediately shatters the caller's story. They
- 3:10Speaker 1: find a 30-year-old woman named Lissa Garcia. She's a single
- 3:14Speaker 1: mother of two young children.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Just heartbreaking.
- 3:16Speaker 1: It really is. And the scene is chaotic. She is
- 3:19Speaker 1: found in only her underwear. She has a deep, severe
- 3:22Speaker 1: laceration on her left jawline.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Which is a huge red flag. Right.
- 3:26Speaker 1: And her body shows prominent bruising. I mean, you don't
- 3:28Speaker 1: have to be a seasoned detective to look at that
- 3:31Speaker 1: room and realize this does not align with someone who
- 3:33Speaker 1: simply ingested too many narcotics and quietly nodded off.
- 3:37Speaker 2: No, the visual cues scream trauma. An opioid overdose is
- 3:41Speaker 2: typically a depressant event. You know, the respiratory system slows down,
- 3:45Speaker 2: the person slips into unconsciousness.
- 3:47Speaker 1: They just sort of fade out.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Right, exactly. It doesn't inherently produce defensive wounds or facial
- 3:51Speaker 2: lacerations or a scene that implies a physical struggle.
- 3:55Speaker 1: But here is the procedural bottleneck, right? Because that initial
- 3:59Speaker 1: 911 call was coded by the dispatcher as a drug overdose,
- 4:04Speaker 1: the primary response engine is geared entirely toward a medical rescue,
- 4:09Speaker 1: not crime scene preservation.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Yes, that's a critical distinction.
- 4:13Speaker 1: So the paramedics arrive, they scooper up, And she is
- 4:15Speaker 1: transported to the Spring Valley Hospital emergency room. And this
- 4:19Speaker 1: is where the entire narrative pivots. Because it is not
- 4:23Speaker 1: a seasoned homicide detective who first uncovers the violent truth here.
- 4:27Speaker 2: No, it's the hospital triage staff.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 4:30Speaker 2: The emergency room basically becomes the de facto crime scene.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Medical professionals in a trauma bay serve as this unintended
- 4:37Speaker 2: first line of forensic defense. Right. I mean, their primary
- 4:40Speaker 2: mandate is obviously to preserve life. But to do that,
- 4:43Speaker 2: they have to read the human body as a biological ledger.
- 4:46Speaker 2: When a patient is wheeled in as an unresponsive, suspected overdose,
- 4:51Speaker 2: the protocol is highly standardized and extremely fast.
- 4:55Speaker 1: They don't wait around.
- 4:56Speaker 2: No, you immediately administer an opioid antagonist, most commonly Narcan. Right.
- 5:01Speaker 1: So let's talk about the mechanics of Narcan for a second,
- 5:03Speaker 1: because understanding how it works really explains why the doctors
- 5:07Speaker 1: reacted the way they did when they gave it to her.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Yeah, so Narcan or naloxone works by binding to the
- 5:13Speaker 2: opioid receptors in the brain. It essentially acts like a stronger,
- 5:17Speaker 2: non-activating key that knocks the opioids right out of those
- 5:20Speaker 2: receptor locks.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Yeah, it physically kicks the drugs out of the way.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Exactly. And when that happens, the reversal of an overdose
- 5:26Speaker 2: is usually rapid and physically dramatic. Within a minute or two,
- 5:30Speaker 2: the patient's respiratory drive re-engages.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 5:33Speaker 2: They often wake up abruptly, sometimes agitated, or even in
- 5:36Speaker 2: immediate withdrawal. It is a very clear cause and effect
- 5:40Speaker 2: biological response.
- 5:41Speaker 1: But when the ER staff pushed Narcan into Alyssa Garcia's system,
- 5:45Speaker 1: nothing happened. No change in respiration, no waking up, just nothing.
- 5:50Speaker 2: And that non-response is a massive diagnostic red flag. It
- 5:54Speaker 2: tells the attending physician instantly that whatever is depressing this
- 5:57Speaker 2: woman's central nervous system, it is definitely not an opioid.
- 6:00Speaker 1: And they back up that clinical observation with hard data, right?
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They run a rapid toxicology screen, and it comes back
- 6:06Speaker 1: completely negative.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Completely clean.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Yeah. And we aren't just talking about no heroin or fentanyl.
- 6:11Speaker 1: There are no drugs of abuse, no alcohol, literally nothing
- 6:14Speaker 1: in her bloodstream that would physiologically explain her comatose state.
- 6:18Speaker 2: So you combine a negative talk screen with a complete
- 6:22Speaker 2: failure to respond to overdose reversal protocols and then factor
- 6:26Speaker 2: in the profound physical trauma like the jaw laceration, the contusions.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Right. It all adds up.
- 6:32Speaker 2: The medical team is looking at this data synthesis and realizing, wait,
- 6:36Speaker 2: We are not managing a medical accident. We are managing
- 6:39Speaker 2: the aftermath of a brutal assault.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Which prompts a chilling secondary 911 call. This time it's
- 6:45Speaker 1: the hospital calling the police dispatch. Right. The ER staff
- 6:48Speaker 1: member tells the dispatcher, and I quote, she was half
- 6:51Speaker 1: naked in the room with an unknown caller. Looks like
- 6:54Speaker 1: she was assaulted.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Just a horrific realization for that medical team. Yeah.
- 6:57Speaker 1: And Lissa Garcia is in critical condition, suffering from a
- 7:00Speaker 1: catastrophic brain injury. The sources note that this specific type
- 7:03Speaker 1: of anoxic brain injury, where the brain is completely deprived
- 7:05Speaker 1: of oxygen, was likely caused by sustained strangulation or suffocation.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Which is just brutal.
- 7:11Speaker 1: And tragically, the damage is irreversible. She is declared brain
- 7:16Speaker 1: dead on June 21st. But I want to pause here
- 7:20Speaker 1: and address a mechanical question that seems glaring. Like if
- 7:22Speaker 1: someone calls 911 to report a dying woman in a
- 7:25Speaker 1: hotel room, why wouldn't the police be dispatched alongside the
- 7:29Speaker 1: paramedics from the very first second?
- 7:31Speaker 2: It feels counterintuitive, I know, but it really comes down
- 7:34Speaker 2: to the brutal mathematics of emergency triage in a massive
- 7:37Speaker 2: urban center.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Okay, how so?
- 7:39Speaker 2: Well, Clark County processes an astronomical volume of emergency calls
- 7:43Speaker 2: every single hour, and emergency resources are finite. If a
- 7:47Speaker 2: call comes in strictly as a medical issue, like a
- 7:49Speaker 2: heart attack, a stroke, a drug overdose, the priority is
- 7:52Speaker 2: getting emergency medical services there to initiate life-saving protocols.
- 7:56Speaker 1: So the police are essentially held in reserve unless there
- 7:58Speaker 1: is a stated threat.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Exactly. Unless the caller explicitly mentions a weapon, a violent
- 8:04Speaker 2: act in progress, or a specific threat to the responding paramedics,
- 8:07Speaker 2: patrol units are often kept available for active crimes elsewhere.
- 8:11Speaker 2: The 911 system relies entirely on the information provided by
- 8:14Speaker 2: the caller. If the caller lies and says it's a
- 8:16Speaker 2: simple overdose, the system dispatches accordingly. The ER doctor essentially
- 8:21Speaker 2: had to step into the role of lead investigator just
- 8:24Speaker 2: to trigger the homicide protocol.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So the medical team officially rips off the overdose mask, right?
- 8:30Speaker 1: The police finally looped in and the hunt for this
- 8:33Speaker 1: phantom 911 caller, this guy who casually referred to himself
- 8:37Speaker 1: as Kendall, kicks into high gear.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:39Speaker 1: But here is the central irony of trying to commit
- 8:42Speaker 1: a crime in Las Vegas. You can't be a phantom.
- 8:45Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 8:46Speaker 1: This is a city fundamentally designed to watch your every move.
- 8:50Speaker 2: It is arguably the most surveilled real estate on the planet.
- 8:53Speaker 2: I mean, consider the geography and economics of Clark County.
- 8:56Speaker 2: You have a population pushing past two million heading toward
- 8:58Speaker 2: three million. creating this massive, sprawling metropolis. But unlike a
- 9:03Speaker 2: diversified city like, say, Chicago or New York, the economic
- 9:07Speaker 2: heartbeat of Las Vegas is singular. It's tourism, conventions, and gaming.
- 9:12Speaker 1: The casinos are the entire engine. And those casinos have
- 9:15Speaker 1: a multi-billion dollar vested interest in one specific illusion, which
- 9:20Speaker 1: is absolute safety.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
- 9:23Speaker 1: The moment a tourist feels like they might be the
- 9:25Speaker 1: victim of a violent crime in a resort hallway... the
- 9:28Speaker 1: entire economic model collapses. They will just take their vacation
- 9:32Speaker 1: funds to Orlando or the Bahamas instead.
- 9:34Speaker 2: And to protect that economic vulnerability, the casino industry has
- 9:38Speaker 2: spearheaded the development of a surveillance infrastructure that rivals and honestly,
- 9:42Speaker 2: in some cases, exceeds state-level intelligence gathering.
- 9:46Speaker 1: That's wild.
- 9:47Speaker 2: The transition from the old eye-in-the-sky catwalks to modern AI-integrated
- 9:52Speaker 2: digital surveillance is staggering. You do not move through a
- 9:55Speaker 2: modern Las Vegas property without leaving an incredibly dense data trail.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I look at the Las Vegas resort ecosystem as a
- 10:02Speaker 1: giant velvet line digital mousetrap.
- 10:05Speaker 2: That is a great way to put it. Right.
- 10:06Speaker 1: The front doors are wide open. The air conditioning is blasting.
- 10:08Speaker 1: The lights are inviting you in. But the second you
- 10:11Speaker 1: step off the sidewalk and cross that threshold, the trap
- 10:13Speaker 1: is armed. Every single action. Whether it is a physical
- 10:17Speaker 1: footprint caught on a high-definition pan-tilt zoom camera or a
- 10:21Speaker 1: digital handshake when your phone connects to the guest Wi-Fi
- 10:25Speaker 1: or the magnetic swipe of a room key, it is
- 10:27Speaker 1: all time-stamped, cataloged, and stored on a server.
- 10:31Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture of the investigation,
- 10:33Speaker 2: that digital mousetrap snapped shut on Jason Kendall before he
- 10:37Speaker 2: even realized he was being hunted. Wow. When detectives circle
- 10:42Speaker 2: back to the Palms Casino, they don't have to dust
- 10:44Speaker 2: for prints to figure out who belongs to room 11A117.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Right, they just ask the computer.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Exactly. The hotel's management system immediately spits out the registration.
- 10:53Speaker 2: The room is formally booked to a 35-year-old U.S. Army
- 10:56Speaker 2: veteran named Jason Gendel.
- 10:58Speaker 1: But a room registration only proves he paid for the bed.
- 11:00Speaker 1: You know, doesn't prove he was there during the assault.
- 11:03Speaker 2: That's true.
- 11:03Speaker 1: That's where the victim's digital footprint intersects with his. Investigators
- 11:08Speaker 1: pull Lissa Garcia's phone records... and discover she had sent
- 11:11Speaker 1: a text message stating she was going to meet a
- 11:13Speaker 1: man named Jay at that exact hotel. So the digital
- 11:17Speaker 1: weave is getting tighter.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. In the defense bar, they refer to these
- 11:21Speaker 2: as bad facts. A defense attorney can argue away one anomaly,
- 11:26Speaker 2: maybe two. But the bad facts for Kendall begin to cascade. Yeah.
- 11:30Speaker 2: You have the room registration, you have the victim's text
- 11:33Speaker 2: message establishing intent to meet, and then the detectives pull
- 11:36Speaker 2: the video servers.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Right, because there's always video.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Always. Always. The lobby cameras capture Kendall and Garcia together
- 11:43Speaker 2: walking through the resort just hours before that chilling 911 call.
- 11:48Speaker 2: This destroys any potential defense claiming he never met her
- 11:51Speaker 2: or she went to the wrong room.
- 11:53Speaker 1: But the absolute hammer blow from this digital mousetrap comes
- 11:57Speaker 1: from the door of room 11115 itself, doesn't it? It does.
- 12:01Speaker 2: The door locks in modern resorts are essentially small computers.
- 12:04Speaker 2: They don't just open a deadbolt. They log the precise
- 12:07Speaker 2: millisecond a specific RFID key card interacts with the reader. Wow. Furthermore,
- 12:11Speaker 2: the hallway cameras are positioned to monitor ingress and egress
- 12:14Speaker 2: to every single door.
- 12:15Speaker 1: And what that data shows is devastating for Kendall. About
- 12:20Speaker 1: an hour after they are seen on camera together in
- 12:22Speaker 1: the lobby, the surveillance footage captures Kendall exiting the room
- 12:26Speaker 1: and leaving the hotel property alone. Right. but it's the
- 12:29Speaker 1: silence in the data that really hangs him. The key
- 12:32Speaker 1: card logs and the hallway cameras confirm a crucial negative.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Absolutely no one else opened that door, entered or exited
- 12:39Speaker 1: that room between the moment Kendall left and the moment
- 12:42Speaker 1: the hotel security guard swiped in to find her body.
- 12:45Speaker 2: It creates an airtight, inescapable timeline. The digital architecture of
- 12:49Speaker 2: the hotel proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
- 12:52Speaker 2: Jason Kendall was the last and only person in that
- 12:55Speaker 2: room with Lissa Garcia before she was found unresponsive and battered.
- 12:59Speaker 1: So with the data practically painting a neon arrow over
- 13:02Speaker 1: his head, investigators track Kendall down to a different nearby hotel.
- 13:07Speaker 1: And when they finally confront him, he plays it exactly
- 13:09Speaker 1: by the textbook. He does. He refuses to give a
- 13:12Speaker 1: statement to the detectives, invokes his Fifth Amendment right to
- 13:14Speaker 1: remain silent, and immediately asks for a lawyer.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Which is the single most rational thing a suspect can
- 13:19Speaker 2: do in that scenario.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 13:21Speaker 2: From a defense perspective, the moment you realize the police
- 13:24Speaker 2: are looking at you for a violent felony, you shut
- 13:27Speaker 2: down all communication. You force the state to build their
- 13:30Speaker 2: case entirely on their own evidence without handing them a
- 13:34Speaker 2: narrative they can pick apart.
- 13:35Speaker 1: But then we hit this massive psychological pivot. A week later,
- 13:40Speaker 1: he completely abandons that rational strategy. Let's look at the
- 13:43Speaker 1: calendar because the sequence of events is just wild.
- 13:45Speaker 2: It really is.
- 13:46Speaker 1: June 12th is the assault and the 911 call. Nearly
- 13:50Speaker 1: a week later, on June 18th, an unnamed source confirms
- 13:53Speaker 1: that Kendall visits a lawyer's office for a consultation.
- 13:56Speaker 2: He is clearly feeling the heat. I mean, he knows
- 13:59Speaker 2: he's the prime suspect, he knows the police found her
- 14:01Speaker 2: in his room, and he is seeking professional counsel on
- 14:04Speaker 2: how to navigate the impending storm.
- 14:07Speaker 1: But the storm upgrades to a Category 5. On June 21st,
- 14:11Speaker 1: three days after his lawyer visit, Lissa Garcia is declared
- 14:15Speaker 1: brain dead. This is no longer a battery or an
- 14:17Speaker 1: attempted murder investigation. This is officially a homicide. And then
- 14:21Speaker 1: on June 28th, a full week after her death, Jason
- 14:25Speaker 1: Kendall does the unthinkable. He walks into a police station,
- 14:29Speaker 1: voluntarily turns himself in, and confesses to the entire thing.
- 14:34Speaker 2: It is a stunning reversal. He goes from invoking his
- 14:37Speaker 2: right to silence to providing a literal roadmap of his
- 14:40Speaker 2: own guilt. And the details he provides are incredibly specific
- 14:43Speaker 2: and deeply disturbing.
- 14:44Speaker 1: He tells the detectives that he paid Garcia $ 2, 000 for sex,
- 14:48Speaker 1: claiming she was a sex worker. His narrative is that
- 14:51Speaker 1: after the initial transaction, she demanded more money. And his
- 14:54Speaker 1: response to this demand was that he, quote unquote, snapped.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:57Speaker 1: He admits to striking her in the face, physically strangling
- 15:00Speaker 1: her for a full 10 minutes, and then sexually assaulting her.
- 15:03Speaker 2: We have to look at the anatomy of this confession
- 15:05Speaker 2: carefully because it is not just an admission of guilt.
- 15:07Speaker 2: It is a calculated attempt to frame the motive.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
- 15:12Speaker 2: By introducing the narrative that she demanded more money... He
- 15:14Speaker 2: is invoking a scenario known in the underground economy as
- 15:17Speaker 2: a trick roll.
- 15:18Speaker 1: A trick roll. OK, let's break that down for the listener.
- 15:21Speaker 1: What exactly is the mechanic of a trick roll?
- 15:23Speaker 2: Well, in the context of sex work, a trick roll
- 15:26Speaker 2: is an extortion or robbery tactic. A client pays an
- 15:30Speaker 2: agreed upon rate and then the worker or maybe an
- 15:33Speaker 2: accomplice suddenly demands significantly more money.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Like a shakedown.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Exactly. Often under the threat of physical violence, public exposure
- 15:41Speaker 2: or even by drugging the client. It's a known risk
- 15:45Speaker 2: in illicit economies where neither party can easily just call
- 15:48Speaker 2: the police.
- 15:48Speaker 1: But wait, hold on. Looking at the timeline, I have
- 15:51Speaker 1: a really hard time buying this as just a spontaneous
- 15:53Speaker 1: outpouring of the truth.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
- 15:56Speaker 1: I mean, he lawyers up on the 18th, she dies
- 15:58Speaker 1: on the 21st, and he confesses on the 28th. This
- 16:01Speaker 1: feels less like a guilty conscience and more like a
- 16:04Speaker 1: calculated legal strategy disguised as a confession. Is he trying
- 16:08Speaker 1: to establish a foundation for a lesser charge? Like, oh,
- 16:11Speaker 1: I didn't plan to kill her. I was being robbed
- 16:13Speaker 1: and I acted in the heat of passion, hoping for
- 16:15Speaker 1: voluntary manslaughter instead of first-degree murder.
- 16:18Speaker 2: That is an excellent read on the subtext of his statement.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Confessions are rarely pure acts of contrition, you know. They
- 16:24Speaker 2: are often attempts to control the damage.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:26Speaker 2: By framing the violence as a reactive explosion to an
- 16:30Speaker 2: attempted extortion, that whole I snapped defense, he is trying
- 16:34Speaker 2: to eliminate the element of premeditation. First-degree murder requires a forethought.
- 16:39Speaker 2: A plan to kill.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Right. You have to mean to do it beforehand.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Exactly. By claiming he was pushed into a blind rage
- 16:45Speaker 2: by a trick roll, he is attempting to construct a
- 16:48Speaker 2: narrative that fits a lesser homicide charge, which carries drastically
- 16:53Speaker 2: lower sentencing guidelines.
- 16:54Speaker 1: So what does this all mean for the legal proceedings?
- 16:57Speaker 1: Because from the outside looking in, if you walk into
- 17:00Speaker 1: a police precinct of your own free will, Sit down
- 17:03Speaker 1: in a chair and say the words, I strangled her
- 17:05Speaker 1: for 10 minutes. It seems like game over.
- 17:07Speaker 2: It does seem that way.
- 17:08Speaker 1: You have literally gift-wrapped a conviction for the district attorney.
- 17:11Speaker 1: How can a defense lawyer possibly fight a voluntary walk-in confession?
- 17:15Speaker 2: It seems insurmountable to a layperson, for sure. But to
- 17:19Speaker 2: a seasoned criminal defense attorney, a confession is just a
- 17:23Speaker 2: highly volatile piece of evidence that needs to be legally stress-tested.
- 17:27Speaker 2: The very first question the defense will ask is about
- 17:30Speaker 2: that lawyer visit on June 18th.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Oh, right.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Did that attorney actually advise Kendall to walk in and
- 17:36Speaker 2: spill his guts?
- 17:37Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine any lawyer ever saying, yeah,
- 17:40Speaker 1: go ahead and tell him you choked her for 10 minutes.
- 17:41Speaker 2: It would be borderline malpractice. A defense attorney will almost
- 17:45Speaker 2: never advise a blind, unmitigated surrender. If a surrender is
- 17:49Speaker 2: tactically necessary, the attorney handles it.
- 17:52Speaker 1: They set it up.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Exactly. The lawyer calls the lead detective, or the DA,
- 17:56Speaker 2: and sets rigid, non-negotiable parameters. They say, my client, Mr. Kendall,
- 18:01Speaker 2: will present himself at 9 a.m. for processing. He is
- 18:04Speaker 2: surrendering for booking purposes only. He is explicitly invoking his
- 18:08Speaker 2: Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and his Sixth Amendment
- 18:11Speaker 2: right to counsel.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Wow, so no talking.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Right. No officer is permitted to ask him a single
- 18:16Speaker 2: question without me sitting next to him. So the fact
- 18:20Speaker 2: that Kendall walked in and gave a detailed narrative strongly
- 18:23Speaker 2: suggests he either went rogue against his attorney's advice or
- 18:26Speaker 2: he acted completely on his own impulse.
- 18:29Speaker 1: But even if he went rogue, he still said the words.
- 18:31Speaker 1: He wasn't tortured into saying them.
- 18:33Speaker 2: He said them, yes, but the legal framework of how
- 18:36Speaker 2: he said them is where the defense will attack. The
- 18:39Speaker 2: context of the interrogation environment is heavily scrutinized, even in
- 18:43Speaker 2: a so-called voluntary surrender.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Okay, how does that work?
- 18:46Speaker 2: Yes, he walked through the front doors freely. But a
- 18:49Speaker 2: defense attorney will subpoena the precinct security footage and the
- 18:52Speaker 2: interrogation room tapes to analyze the exact moment the environment shifted.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Shifted from what to what?
- 18:59Speaker 2: From a voluntary encounter to a custodial interrogation. The police
- 19:03Speaker 2: are incredibly skilled at blurring this line. They will welcome
- 19:06Speaker 2: a suspect in, offer them a coffee, and say, you know,
- 19:09Speaker 2: we just want to hear your side of the story.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Clear the air.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Make it seem casual. Exactly.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Exactly. As long as the suspect genuinely believes they can
- 19:16Speaker 2: stand up and walk out the door, Miranda writes technically
- 19:19Speaker 2: do not have to be read. But the defense will ask,
- 19:22Speaker 2: was the door locked behind him? Were the detectives positioning
- 19:26Speaker 2: themselves between Kendall and the exit? Were they visibly armed
- 19:30Speaker 2: in a small windowless room?
- 19:31Speaker 1: So it's about the psychological pressure of the room itself.
- 19:35Speaker 2: Exactly. If the totality of the circumstances indicates that a
- 19:39Speaker 2: reasonable person in Kendall's shoes would no longer feel free
- 19:41Speaker 2: to leave, then he was legally in police custody. And
- 19:45Speaker 2: the second he is in custody, if they haven't properly
- 19:47Speaker 2: read him his Miranda rights and secured a clear documented
- 19:51Speaker 2: waiver of those rights, anything he says after that point
- 19:54Speaker 2: can be challenged as a corrupt unconstitutional statement.
- 19:57Speaker 1: That is wild. The idea that a guy can walk
- 20:00Speaker 1: in and confess to murder, but if the detectives fail
- 20:03Speaker 1: to navigate the psychological and procedural tripwires of the room,
- 20:06Speaker 1: a judge could theoretically toss the confession in the trash.
- 20:09Speaker 2: It happened.
- 20:09Speaker 1: But regardless of what happens in future suppression hearings, in
- 20:13Speaker 1: that immediate moment, Kendall's confession handed the state everything they
- 20:17Speaker 1: needed to pull the trigger on an arrest. And the
- 20:19Speaker 1: charges they filed are fascinating.
- 20:21Speaker 2: They filed a very specific slate of charges that reflects
- 20:24Speaker 2: the severity of the confession and while giving the state
- 20:28Speaker 2: maximum tactical flexibility.
- 20:30Speaker 1: He is charged with sexual assault, battery by strangulation to
- 20:33Speaker 1: commit sexual assault, and a primary charge labeled open murder.
- 20:38Speaker 1: He is held without bail. And looking at his background,
- 20:41Speaker 1: the sources indicate he has a relatively light criminal footprint,
- 20:45Speaker 1: with the exception of a 2014 federal felony drug charge
- 20:47Speaker 1: out of West Virginia.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 20:49Speaker 1: But I want to zero in on that phrase, open murder.
- 20:52Speaker 1: It sounds so vague. Why doesn't the state just charge
- 20:55Speaker 1: them with first-degree murder right off the bat?
- 20:57Speaker 2: This raises an important question about how the system works here.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Open murder is a unique and incredibly powerful tool within
- 21:04Speaker 2: the Nevada criminal justice system. When a prosecutor files an
- 21:08Speaker 2: open murder charge, they are intentionally refusing to pin themselves
- 21:12Speaker 2: down to a specific degree of homicide on day one.
- 21:15Speaker 2: They are not committing to proving premeditated first-degree murder, nor
- 21:20Speaker 2: are they settling for second-degree murder. Or voluntary manslaughter.
- 21:23Speaker 1: I see it like a massive legal umbrella policy. The
- 21:26Speaker 1: district attorney is throwing this giant heavy tarp over the
- 21:30Speaker 1: entire crime. They know a human being was killed and
- 21:33Speaker 1: they have probable cause to believe Jason Kendall did. Yes.
- 21:36Speaker 1: But they are buying themselves the time and the legal
- 21:39Speaker 1: space to wait for all the scientific data to process
- 21:42Speaker 1: before they declare the exact shape of the crime under
- 21:45Speaker 1: that tarp.
- 21:45Speaker 2: That is the exact mechanism. It is a strategic holding pattern.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Homicide investigations generate mountains of complex data. You have final
- 21:53Speaker 2: autopsy results detailing the exact biomechanics of the death, toxicological
- 21:57Speaker 2: analyses of the victim and suspect, digital forensics from cell
- 22:01Speaker 2: phones and key cards.
- 22:02Speaker 1: A lot to go through.
- 22:03Speaker 2: It takes months. If the state charges first-degree murder on
- 22:06Speaker 2: day one and the subsequent forensics suggest the killing was
- 22:09Speaker 2: impulsive rather than planned, the defense can attack the overcharging.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Open murder allows the state to absorb all the evidence first,
- 22:17Speaker 2: and then, at the end of the preliminary stages, specify
- 22:20Speaker 2: the exact degree they intend to prove to a jury.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Which brings us to the next massive procedural hurdle, right?
- 22:26Speaker 1: The preliminary hearing, which for Kendall was slated for August 6th.
- 22:31Speaker 1: For those listening who only know courtrooms from television dramas,
- 22:34Speaker 1: what is the actual function of a preliminary hearing in Nevada?
- 22:38Speaker 2: In the defense community, a preliminary hearing is often referred
- 22:41Speaker 2: to as a baby trial or a mini trial. But
- 22:44Speaker 2: that moniker is slightly misleading because the rulebook is fundamentally
- 22:48Speaker 2: different from a jury trial, specifically regarding the burden of proof.
- 22:52Speaker 1: How so?
- 22:53Speaker 2: Well, in a real trial, the state carries the heaviest
- 22:56Speaker 2: burden in American law. They must prove the defendant's guilt
- 23:00Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt. But at a preliminary hearing, the
- 23:03Speaker 2: burden plummets. The state only has to demonstrate slight or
- 23:07Speaker 2: marginal evidence.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Slight or marginal. I mean, that sounds like they barely
- 23:10Speaker 1: have to show up.
- 23:11Speaker 2: They only need to establish probable cause. Essentially showing the
- 23:15Speaker 2: judge that a crime was probably committed and the defendant
- 23:18Speaker 2: is probably the person who did it. Wow. The prosecutors
- 23:21Speaker 2: will not put on their entire case. They won't call
- 23:24Speaker 2: their expert witnesses. They will only flip over the bare
- 23:28Speaker 2: minimum number of cards necessary to convince the justice of
- 23:31Speaker 2: the peace to bind the case over to the higher
- 23:34Speaker 2: district court for trial.
- 23:35Speaker 1: But wait, if the bar is set that incredibly low,
- 23:39Speaker 1: what is the defense attorney even doing in the room? Mm-hmm.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Why not just waive the hearing? It feels like a
- 23:44Speaker 1: rubber stamp for the state.
- 23:46Speaker 2: It is a rubber stamp, but it is a highly
- 23:48Speaker 2: tactical environment for the defense. A smart defense attorney uses
- 23:52Speaker 2: the preliminary hearing for discovery and lock in.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Lock in. Yeah.
- 23:56Speaker 2: They get to cross-examine the state's initial witnesses, maybe the
- 23:59Speaker 2: lead detective or the medical examiner, under oath. They are
- 24:02Speaker 2: fishing for inconsistencies. They want to force the detective to
- 24:06Speaker 2: commit to a specific timeline on the record. so that
- 24:09Speaker 2: a year later at the actual trial, if the detective
- 24:11Speaker 2: changes their story, the defense has the sworn transcript to
- 24:15Speaker 2: impeach them.
- 24:16Speaker 1: But there's a massive quirk in Nevada law regarding these
- 24:19Speaker 1: hearings that blew my mind when I read it. The
- 24:22Speaker 1: judge presiding over this hearing cannot evaluate whether a witness
- 24:26Speaker 1: is lying.
- 24:27Speaker 2: It is one of the most frustrating aspects for a
- 24:29Speaker 2: defense attorney. At the preliminary stage, the justice of the
- 24:33Speaker 2: peace is legally barred from ruling on the credibility of
- 24:37Speaker 2: a witness.
- 24:37Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Evaluating truthfulness, deciding if a witness has a motive to
- 24:42Speaker 2: lie or if their memory is failing is strictly reserved
- 24:45Speaker 2: as a question of fact for a jury.
- 24:48Speaker 1: So hypothetically, if the state puts a witness on the
- 24:50Speaker 1: stand who tells a story that sounds completely unhinged and
- 24:53Speaker 1: demonstrably false, the judge can't just bang the gavel and
- 24:56Speaker 1: throw the case out.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Absolutely not. As long as the witness's testimony, if assumed
- 25:00Speaker 2: to be true, establishes probable cause, the judge is legally
- 25:04Speaker 2: mandated to pass the case up to the trial court.
- 25:07Speaker 2: The judge cannot say, I think this guy is lying
- 25:09Speaker 2: through his teeth. Case dismissed.
- 25:10Speaker 1: That is terrifying if you are a defendant. But in
- 25:13Speaker 1: Jason Kendall's situation, the state doesn't even have to rely
- 25:16Speaker 1: on a shady witness. They have an HD video timeline,
- 25:19Speaker 1: key card data, and a videotaped confession. They have an
- 25:22Speaker 1: avalanche of evidence that easily clears the slight or marginal threshold,
- 25:26Speaker 1: which means his defense team is backed into a dark,
- 25:29Speaker 1: terrifying corner.
- 25:30Speaker 2: When you are staring down an open murder charge, armed
- 25:33Speaker 2: with your own client's confession and an irrefutable digital footprint,
- 25:37Speaker 2: you are forced to explore the absolute extremes of criminal
- 25:41Speaker 2: defense strategy because the penalties you are fighting against are ultimate.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Let's get into the minds of the defense. If you
- 25:49Speaker 1: are sitting across from a client who has already told
- 25:50Speaker 1: the police, I choked her for 10 minutes, how do
- 25:53Speaker 1: you even begin to mount a defense? What is your
- 25:56Speaker 1: literal first move?
- 25:58Speaker 2: The first move is to stop listening to your client
- 26:00Speaker 2: and start listening to the science. A competent attorney will
- 26:03Speaker 2: aggressively scrutinize the medical examiner's autopsy report To see if
- 26:07Speaker 2: the physical biomechanics of the body actually corroborate the confession.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Because people concess the things they didn't do or they exaggerate. Exactly.
- 26:16Speaker 2: False confessions are a documented phenomenon, often driven by extreme
- 26:20Speaker 2: psychological distress, intoxication, or an attempt to protect someone else.
- 26:25Speaker 2: But even in a true confession, the details are often
- 26:28Speaker 2: wildly distorted by adrenaline and trauma. Right. Kendall claims he
- 26:33Speaker 2: strangled Lissa Garcia for 10 minutes. From a medical standpoint,
- 26:37Speaker 2: 10 minutes of manual strangulation is an eternity. It requires
- 26:41Speaker 2: a sustained, deliberate, and exhausting application of muscular force.
- 26:46Speaker 1: So what is the defense looking for in the autopsy
- 26:48Speaker 1: to disprove that?
- 26:49Speaker 2: They are looking at the specific trauma to the neck anatomy.
- 26:52Speaker 2: They will analyze the extent of the petechial hemorrhaging.
- 26:55Speaker 1: What's that?
- 26:56Speaker 2: Those are the burst blood vessels in the eyes and
- 26:58Speaker 2: face that occur when blood flow from the head is blocked,
- 27:00Speaker 2: but arterial flow to the head continues. They will also
- 27:04Speaker 2: look for fractures in the hyoid bone, a small bone
- 27:06Speaker 2: in the neck that is often broken during manual strangulation.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Okay, so hard physical evidence.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Right. If the autopsy shows a lack of deep tissue
- 27:14Speaker 2: bruising or an intact hyoid bone, the defense can argue
- 27:17Speaker 2: the physical evidence contradicts a 10-minute assault. They can claim
- 27:21Speaker 2: the confession is a hyperbolic fabrication from a man whose
- 27:24Speaker 2: memory was fragmented by panic or intoxication.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Which opens up another avenue, his state of mind.
- 27:30Speaker 2: Yes. Was he under the influence of severe narcotics when
- 27:33Speaker 2: he walked into that police station, rendering his Miranda waiver
- 27:36Speaker 2: legally invalid? Or, taking it a step further, does he
- 27:40Speaker 2: meet the criteria for a formal insanity defense?
- 27:44Speaker 1: But the insanity defense is incredibly rare, isn't it? It's
- 27:47Speaker 1: not like the movies where you just act crazy and
- 27:49Speaker 1: get sent to a hospital.
- 27:51Speaker 2: It is exceptionally difficult to successfully argue. Most jurisdictions, including Nevada,
- 27:56Speaker 2: rely on variations of the Mnattin rule.
- 27:58Speaker 1: The Mnattin rule.
- 27:59Speaker 2: Yeah. To win an insanity plea, the defense must prove
- 28:02Speaker 2: that at the precise moment of the crime, the defendant
- 28:05Speaker 2: was suffering from a mental disease or defect so severe
- 28:08Speaker 2: that they literally did not understand the nature and quality
- 28:11Speaker 2: of their actions. Or they did not comprehend that what
- 28:14Speaker 2: they were doing was legally and morally wrong.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Wow, that's a high bar.
- 28:17Speaker 2: It is a monumental legal burden, but when you are
- 28:20Speaker 2: out of options, you have to explore it.
- 28:23Speaker 1: And they have to explore every single option because we
- 28:25Speaker 1: have to talk about the shadow hanging over this entire courtroom.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Nevada is a state that actively retains the death penalty.
- 28:32Speaker 2: The stakes do not get higher. But the state cannot
- 28:35Speaker 2: simply ask for the death penalty just because the crime
- 28:38Speaker 2: is gruesome. The United States Supreme Court mandates that the
- 28:41Speaker 2: death penalty be reserved for the worst of the worst,
- 28:44Speaker 2: which requires a highly structured procedural gateway. Okay.
- 28:48Speaker 1: How does that work in Vegas?
- 28:49Speaker 2: In Clark County, the district attorney's office utilizes a specific
- 28:53Speaker 2: capital case review committee.
- 28:55Speaker 1: How does that committee decide whose life they are going
- 28:58Speaker 1: to try to take?
- 28:59Speaker 2: They are required by law to evaluate the case against
- 29:02Speaker 2: a list of statutory aggravating circumstances. These are specific, legally
- 29:07Speaker 2: defined factors that elevate a standard murder into a capital offense.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Like what?
- 29:12Speaker 2: Well, in Kendall's case, he is charged with open murder,
- 29:15Speaker 2: but he is also charged with sexual assault and battery
- 29:18Speaker 2: by strangulation. Those accompanying violent felonies are classic aggravating factors.
- 29:23Speaker 1: I see.
- 29:24Speaker 2: If the committee determines that the brutality of the sexual
- 29:27Speaker 2: assault and the prolonged nature of the strangulation outweigh any
- 29:30Speaker 2: mitigating factors in Kendall's life, like his military service or
- 29:34Speaker 2: lack of a massive violent criminal record, they will file
- 29:38Speaker 2: a formal notice of intent to seek the death penalty.
- 29:41Speaker 1: And if that notice gets filed, I imagine the entire
- 29:43Speaker 1: tempo of the legal system just grinds to a halt.
- 29:46Speaker 2: It paralyzes the normal flow of justice. Death is a
- 29:50Speaker 2: foundational concept in constitutional law. If the state is actively
- 29:54Speaker 2: trying to execute a defendant, quick plea deals vanish.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Because what's the point?
- 29:58Speaker 2: Exactly. The defense goes into a hyper-aggressive, scorched-earth posture, fighting
- 30:04Speaker 2: every single motion, every single piece of evidence, every single
- 30:07Speaker 2: jury instruction, knowing that a single mistake could cost their
- 30:10Speaker 2: client his life. A capital case becomes a grueling, multi-year
- 30:15Speaker 2: war of attrition.
- 30:16Speaker 1: As we dissect all these sterile legal mechanics, you know,
- 30:19Speaker 1: the statutory aggravators, the knight in rule, the forensic timelines...
- 30:23Speaker 1: It is so dangerously easy to lose sight of the
- 30:26Speaker 1: human being whose life was violently ended in that room.
- 30:29Speaker 1: Lissa Garcia was a 30-year-old single mother. She had two
- 30:32Speaker 1: young children who are now forced to navigate the rest
- 30:35Speaker 1: of their lives without her. The sources note that in
- 30:37Speaker 1: the aftermath, a friend of hers organized a GoFundMe campaign
- 30:41Speaker 1: to help the family, which raised over $ 15, 000 to cover
- 30:44Speaker 1: the unexpected, crushing costs of a funeral and a celebration
- 30:47Speaker 1: of life.
- 30:48Speaker 2: It's just devastating.
- 30:50Speaker 1: It is a stark, painful reminder. of the collateral damage,
- 30:54Speaker 1: the massive ripple effect of grief that explodes outward from
- 30:57Speaker 1: a single act of violence.
- 30:59Speaker 2: It is a profound tragedy, and it underscores the incredibly
- 31:02Speaker 2: delicate balance the justice system is forced to maintain. The
- 31:06Speaker 2: courts and the prosecutors must acknowledge the immense, raw, emotional
- 31:10Speaker 2: weight of this loss for her family and her community. Right.
- 31:13Speaker 2: But simultaneously, they must operate with cold procedural detachment. The
- 31:17Speaker 2: rules of evidence, the Miranda warnings, the burden of proof
- 31:20Speaker 2: at preliminary hearings These rigid frameworks exist for a reason.
- 31:24Speaker 1: What's the reason?
- 31:25Speaker 2: They exist to ensure that any conviction secured against Jason
- 31:28Speaker 2: Kendall is constitutionally bulletproof so that it can withstand the
- 31:32Speaker 2: inevitable decades of appellate scrutiny that follow a murder conviction.
- 31:37Speaker 2: If emotion dictates the procedure, the foundation of the conviction
- 31:41Speaker 2: rots and the entire system collapses.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, though. When you step
- 31:46Speaker 1: back and look at the entire landscape of this deep dive...
- 31:50Speaker 1: We started in the bright clinical lights of a hospital
- 31:53Speaker 1: trauma bay, watching medical staff decode the biological evidence of
- 31:57Speaker 1: a crime. Yeah. We moved through the silent, unblinking testimony
- 32:01Speaker 1: of a multimillion-dollar casino surveillance network. We navigated the psychological
- 32:06Speaker 1: landmines of a voluntary confession and ended up tangled in
- 32:10Speaker 1: the complex, high-stakes reality of Nevada's open murder statutes.
- 32:14Speaker 2: It's quite a journey.
- 32:15Speaker 1: This case strips away the glamorous, neon facade of Las
- 32:17Speaker 1: Vegas eschatism. It exposes the rigorous, tedious, and often heartbreaking
- 32:21Speaker 1: legal mechanics required to find the truth behind closed hotel doors.
- 32:25Speaker 1: It is a powerful reminder that the truth is rarely
- 32:27Speaker 1: as simple as a 911 dispatch code or even a
- 32:30Speaker 1: signed confession.
- 32:31Speaker 2: It leaves you pondering a deeply unsettling concept regarding the
- 32:35Speaker 2: modern illusion of anonymity. Millions of people travel from all
- 32:39Speaker 2: over the globe to cities like Las Vegas seeking the
- 32:41Speaker 2: ultimate escape.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Right. It happens in Vegas. Exactly. Exactly.
- 32:44Speaker 2: There's this deeply romanticized cultural idea that you can fly
- 32:48Speaker 2: into the desert, disappear into a crowded casino floor, reinvent
- 32:52Speaker 2: yourself for a weekend, and vanish into the anonymity of
- 32:56Speaker 2: a numbered hotel room.
- 32:57Speaker 1: But you can't.
- 32:58Speaker 2: No. When you truly consider the relentless logs of electronic
- 33:01Speaker 2: key cards, the omnipresent high-definition lobby cameras, the digital text
- 33:06Speaker 2: footprints bouncing off local cell towers, and the rigorous biological
- 33:09Speaker 2: protocols of emergency rooms, you have to ask yourself a
- 33:12Speaker 2: hard question.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Which is?
- 33:14Speaker 2: In our highly networked, surveilled reality, is it ever actually
- 33:17Speaker 2: possible to be a ghost in modern society?
- 33:19Speaker 1: That is a chilling thought to leave on. Can you
- 33:22Speaker 1: ever truly disappear, or is the digital mousetrap always armed,
- 33:25Speaker 1: just waiting for you to take a step? Thank you
- 33:28Speaker 1: for joining us on this deep dive. Keep questioning the
- 33:31Speaker 1: narratives you see on the surface, and remember that every
- 33:34Speaker 1: piece of evidence, every digital footprint, tells a story, if
- 33:37Speaker 1: you know how to read it.